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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: What's going on Steelers Nation Radio? And welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: West Shuler with you here for the next two hours.

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Speaker 2: Fired up, Matt, we.

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Speaker 3: Had almost Justin Miller with us again. That guy can't

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Speaker 3: get enough to drive, he misses us. Ready to kick

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Speaker 3: him out of here.

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Speaker 2: Old Drive producer Justin Miller, all excited to talk some

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Speaker 2: football with the fellas, comes running in here. I mean

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Speaker 2: quite literally, as our intro bed was playing, You're a

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Speaker 2: popular guy here around the iHeart Studios, Matt.

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Speaker 3: I have an't do with it. I was kicking him out.

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Speaker 3: I was the bouncer.

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Speaker 2: You are the bouncer, and you know what. This is

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Speaker 2: going to be a poor transition, but let's get right

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Speaker 2: into it. The bouncer of the Pittsburgh Steelers is Cam Heyward.

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Speaker 3: So you're sticking in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: You see what I did there? And good news, no

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Speaker 2: rest for Cam for a second consecutive day. Reminder for

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Speaker 2: everybody who might have missed it or just needs refreshed. Thursday,

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Speaker 2: Cam did not practice, but was clearly listed on the

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Speaker 2: injury report as a veteran's rest day. Right back today

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Speaker 2: for what is Friday, not as an intense of a practice,

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Speaker 2: can a lot of times be more of a walk

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Speaker 2: through if you will, sure, but Cam was back out

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Speaker 2: there practicing today after getting a rest day yesterday. Again,

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Speaker 2: we won't know until we know Sunday afternoon, but I

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Speaker 2: think that's a pretty good sign.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great sign. And I'm almost certain

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Speaker 3: that he pretty much took every Thursday off last year period.

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Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't remember for a Wednesday or Thursday,

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Speaker 3: but at least once a week. He's a d MP basically,

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Speaker 3: So this isn't news. If there wasn't other stuff, you know,

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Speaker 3: no one would even bring it up. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: this was last year at this time, it would not

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Speaker 3: even be discussed, or if it was week twelve, it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't even be discussed. They absolutely need him. I mean

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Speaker 3: that goes out saying. I mean, he's a tremendous football player,

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Speaker 3: but in this game, in particular, when we start getting

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Speaker 3: into things that could go off the rails for the

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Speaker 3: Steelers or whatever, that's one of the areas I'm definitely

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Speaker 3: focusing on. But this is good news, I think. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I'm not avoiding it because we're on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers audio networks. I don't know what's going on behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes. I'm sure he wants more money. I think

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Speaker 3: he's got somewhat of a case. I think they say

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Speaker 3: he's got a contract he doesn't. Maybe he will get

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Speaker 3: more money. They have a chunk of cap space, they

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Speaker 3: could give him some now whatever. I honestly don't care

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you as well too. All

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Speaker 2: that matters to me is his status for Sunday, and

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Speaker 2: I think all all good indicators in that regard, and

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Speaker 2: mattump into that, right, I think a kind of fun way.

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Speaker 3: Wait, any other injury news, I mean Herbig or did

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Speaker 3: the injury? Is there anything else of note? I didn't

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Speaker 3: see anything not worrisome.

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Speaker 2: Not not anything worrisome. I think her Big again too,

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Speaker 2: is going to be or We're just gonna have to

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Speaker 3: I would think he's a game time, game time.

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Speaker 2: Decision type on on Sunday. But other than that, right, A,

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Speaker 2: as Mike Tomlin put it earlier in the week, relatively

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Speaker 2: healthy group, which is certainly a good thing. And we

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Speaker 2: hope that we're we're singing the same tune next week. Sure, sure, Matt,

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Speaker 2: let's uh, let's get right into it. Like I Friday shows,

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Speaker 2: like to go through a like how can they win?

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Speaker 2: How can they lose? For the Steelers, and as it

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Speaker 2: relates to their upcoming opponent, And I think this kind

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Speaker 2: of directly ties to Cam Hayward, to that defense, to

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Speaker 2: me for the Steelers, And I don't mean to start

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Speaker 2: it just kind of transitions nicely. How they can lose

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Speaker 2: is by letting the Jets run the football, control the clock,

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Speaker 2: keeping that Steelers defense on the field, keeping Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: think the Steelers have a great chance to win this

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Speaker 2: God forbid even higher. I think that's the way that

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Speaker 3: So if we plan on doing this every week, which

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Speaker 3: I assume we will, I think we should need to

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Speaker 3: get it out of the way now. Like obviously you

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Speaker 3: five times, or you get five kicks, you know, three kicks.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, quarterback gets hurt on the second play.

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Speaker 3: At the game, I'd say, injuries galore, or they take

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Speaker 3: a bazillion penalties, or you spit on the opposing quarterback before.

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Speaker 2: He'll talk about we'll tell yeah today.

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Speaker 3: But I'm with you. There's two big things that stand

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Speaker 3: the way you phrased it. And again, Cam Hayward, even

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Speaker 3: start to finish, okay, And I think that's asking too much.

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Speaker 3: And I would kind of phrase it along the lines of,

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Speaker 3: if the Jets can still be dedicated to the run

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Speaker 3: game deep deep into this game, you could be in trouble.

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Speaker 3: I mean you that means you've suffered a lot of

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Speaker 3: body blows. You know, they're still swinging and doing their

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Speaker 3: style play and there's eight minutes left and it's a

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Speaker 3: close game, and four yard runs are turned into seven

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Speaker 3: you're starting to look around like they're starting to the

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Speaker 3: tides are turning.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's a very good point. I like the

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Speaker 2: way you phrase that. If Justin Fields doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: drop back and pass in the fourth quarter, right right,

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Speaker 2: that could be a game, that could be a way

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Speaker 2: that they could lose. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you get those guys to all right,

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Speaker 3: that's not what the Jets want to do at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's playing left handed for them.

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Speaker 2: That's that is kind of a great kind of way

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Speaker 2: to phrase it. If the Jets, with you know, into

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Speaker 2: patiently and methodically, that's probably lock like crazy take probably

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Speaker 2: not a great sign.

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Speaker 3: For the Steelers. Yeah, then I think you're on the ropes.

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Speaker 2: How the Steelers win, though, Matt another loss one, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I said, there's two that are kind of standing out

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Speaker 2: Other than the obvious bunch of turnovers, a bunch of sacks,

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Speaker 3: So I really think Sauce is going to spend a

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Speaker 3: Now no one does one hundred percent anymore, you know,

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Speaker 3: but then they'll move them around. And I think I

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Speaker 3: Hopefully at least it's close and it goes twelve rounds

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Speaker 3: or whatever. Do I know that Austin and Wilson can

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Speaker 3: if you've got to rely on them, ooh, I'm a

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely absolutely, and you know that kind of I

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Speaker 2: think parlays into the run game for the Steelers is

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Speaker 2: going to be a massive indicator for both teams, Like

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Speaker 3: It that way, And sorry, to like jump onto there,

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Speaker 3: but like the Jets could still be the better running

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Speaker 3: team as long as the Steelers isn't horrible, they can

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Speaker 3: be balanced, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: whoever runs the wall better wins. The Jets have to

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Speaker 3: be the team to run the ball better for them

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Speaker 3: to win. The Steelers don't. But it also can't be

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Speaker 3: two point nine yards. You know you're sitting there at

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Speaker 3: halftime twelve rushes forty yards like this isn't going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: You know, that would be a real bad sign.

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Speaker 2: That would absolutely and.

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Speaker 3: That could happen, Like I don't think that's a crazy

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Speaker 3: fictional novel that we're writing for that to happen. Quinn

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Speaker 3: Williams is blowing things up. Those linebackers are tackling everything.

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Speaker 3: There's no holes.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure when we get to our matchup segments here

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Speaker 2: on the other side, actually you'll there will be plenty

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Speaker 2: of conversation around Quinn Williams. I think you know, another

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Speaker 2: indicator in this regard is going to be for the

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Speaker 2: Steelers that first quarter start that we talked about so

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Speaker 3: I hate to see it.

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Speaker 2: How do you win this game? Hm? You're up by four,

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Speaker 2: and the Jets already have to start getting away from

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Speaker 2: their game plan. How do you lose this game? You're

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's even seven to three at the at

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Speaker 3: a possession or something, still a.

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Speaker 2: Ton of football left that point. But the Jets have

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Speaker 2: your right where they want you. If that's the case,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you kind of have

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Speaker 3: I keep using these boxing analogies, but if that were

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Speaker 3: the case, it's like, all right, points to the Jets

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Speaker 3: in round one, points to the Jets in round two.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you can still knock them out. There's

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Speaker 3: still a lot of you know, you're not a bloody mess.

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Speaker 3: You don't look like Balboa against Creed yet, but that's

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Speaker 3: the way it's starting to go. And then, I mean,

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Speaker 3: we've talked about it all week, but I mean, the

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Speaker 3: first quarter thing's terrible, but it's particularly bad for a

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Speaker 3: that you can't just say, hey, Josh Allen, just take

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Speaker 3: it over. You know what I mean, We're just gonna

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Speaker 3: put everything into your basket. You got to play a

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Speaker 3: certain way.

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Speaker 2: You absolutely do. And winning in the margins kind of

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Speaker 2: the final thing that you know that I that I

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Speaker 2: had to had to discuss here, if you will, both

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Speaker 2: of these teams, it was, as the tape is a

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Speaker 2: tale of two different teams. When it comes to their

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Speaker 2: special teams from last year, Steelers Chris Boswell made ninety

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Speaker 2: seven percent of his kicks I believe, second best in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, only behind McPherson from Tampa. It was the

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Speaker 2: only was the only one who was better left. The

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Speaker 2: only team that made a higher percentage of higher field

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Speaker 2: goals last year was Tampa, Whereas I believe the Jets

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Speaker 2: were dead last in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think exact they were like seventy one percent or something.

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Speaker 2: A vast, vast difference between.

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, huge. Absolutely, Let's get into some of those

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 2: Because now I'm ready for some football. Williamson, little, Troy

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely some big names on both of these rosters

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Speaker 3: three technique. I mean, he's going to line up a

435
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Speaker 3: lot on an outside shoulder of a guard, but I

436
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Speaker 3: would bet that they move him from the outside shoulder

437
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Speaker 3: of the left guard to the right outside shoulder of

438
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Speaker 3: the right guard and everywhere in between, you know. So

439
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Speaker 3: he's I think he's right there with Cam Hayward is

440
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Speaker 3: one of the best five defensive tackles in the league

441
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Speaker 3: and can be easy to forget about him in those

442
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Speaker 3: conversations because the team does win any games. But the

443
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: Jets defense have been pretty darn good for a while,

444
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Speaker 3: and he's the straw sort of drink.

445
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Speaker 2: I he's one of those guys to me that you know,

446
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Speaker 2: he's not on national TV very often. Right, I know

447
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: he plays in a big market, but he doesn't play

448
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Speaker 2: for the Giant. He doesn't play for the Giants, right,

449
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: because even the Giants defensive line, those guys get a

450
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: lot more credit than he does, despite being a team

451
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Speaker 2: that has not been very good the last few years

452
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Speaker 2: as well. Too. It's a very early test for those

453
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Speaker 2: three guys on the interior. Oh yeah, if you can

454
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Speaker 2: perform against this guy, I like, what you're gonna do

455
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Speaker 2: for the next sixteen games. Yeah, that's not to say

456
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Speaker 2: that if if Quinn Williams gets the best of that Steelers,

457
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Speaker 2: that means that they're going to be a disaster for

458
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Speaker 2: sixteen games either. But this is like, I mean, this

459
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Speaker 2: is a that's a guy you double and right, this

460
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Speaker 2: is not you know, this is not uh, you know

461
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Speaker 2: Ohio State opening with Akron Week one, like this is

462
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Speaker 2: Ohio State and Texas. I mean, yeah, this is a

463
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Speaker 2: this is a big test right out of the shoot.

464
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Speaker 3: And the other d tackles aren't exactly household names. But

465
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Speaker 3: they did just trade for Phillips from the Vikes, who's

466
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Speaker 3: a veteran power interior player that's tough to move. You know,

467
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Speaker 3: he'll complement Williams pretty well. And their edge guys are

468
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Speaker 3: pretty good pass rushers too. Their defensive front is not bad,

469
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Speaker 3: including their second level dudes who run real well too.

470
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Speaker 3: Williams brother. You know, they make a lot of plays too,

471
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Speaker 3: So this defense isn't bad.

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Speaker 2: No, they're not. And I mean, in fact, if you're

473
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Speaker 2: listing the things that they did well last year, it's

474
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Speaker 2: not a huge list, but you might start. You would

475
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Speaker 2: probably start with that defense. Yeah yeah, and you know

476
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Speaker 2: you bring it in Aaron Glenn. It is obviously game one,

477
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Speaker 2: so you hope that you're getting them at the right

478
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Speaker 2: time where there's still some kinks and some rush to

479
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Speaker 2: work out, but bringing in a defensive mind as well too.

480
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Speaker 2: You know, I think by the end of the year

481
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Speaker 2: they could certainly be a top ten defense. I don't

482
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Speaker 2: think that's crazy in the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's calling plays or not. I

484
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Speaker 3: bet he's not as a new head coach, but his influence,

485
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Speaker 3: he was a very good play caller, varied things. I

486
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Speaker 3: mean that you don't know exactly what you're getting from

487
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Speaker 3: his lion's days, you know.

488
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Speaker 2: And I would I would expect that to continue.

489
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Speaker 3: And the Steelers have a lot of new bodies on offense.

490
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Speaker 2: Certainly certainly got some rust and some kinks to work

491
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Speaker 2: out as well. Particularly, I think how they're going to

492
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Speaker 2: use those three tight ends, the different skill sets, the

493
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Speaker 2: different body types. What's it looked like in twelve personnel?

494
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Speaker 2: What's it looked like in thirteen personnel? Heck, what's it

495
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Speaker 2: even looked like an eleven personnel? When when there's only

496
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Speaker 2: going to be one tight end out there? And how

497
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Speaker 2: the Jets go about deploying their defense base versus Nickel

498
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Speaker 2: versus what's it look like if it's Mouth and John

499
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Speaker 2: Wu what's it look like if it's Washington and Mouth

500
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Speaker 2: and et cetera. That to me is a real kind

501
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Speaker 2: of chess matchup to watch as well too.

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Speaker 3: In one thousand percent and that one, I'm kind of

503
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Speaker 3: looking at with kind of a precursor of maybe these

504
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Speaker 3: next sixteen games after that, what does the league do

505
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Speaker 3: against thirteen? Now, the Jets could be an outlier and

506
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Speaker 3: they might do something crazy like play dime or whatever,

507
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Speaker 3: you know, because of the way that they look at it.

508
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Speaker 3: Who knows. But I am real curious of specifically those

509
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Speaker 3: snaps when all three tight ends are on the field.

510
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't shop me if you get Based, wouldn't shock

511
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Speaker 3: me if you get Nickel. Like the league has changed

512
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Speaker 3: a little bit in that it used to be when

513
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Speaker 3: you come out in twelve one back, two tight ends,

514
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Speaker 3: two receivers, you would almost always get Bass. Twenty one

515
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Speaker 3: or twelve almost was always base. But the league as

516
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Speaker 3: a whole, this is a very generic statement. It depends

517
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Speaker 3: who you have is now countering twelve much much more

518
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Speaker 3: with Nickel because a lot of these tight ends aren't

519
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Speaker 3: very good. They're more John New than they are Darnell,

520
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Yes, so I'm gonna have

521
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Speaker 3: lighter linebackers. I'm gonna put an extra safety on the field.

522
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Speaker 3: Maybe I'll guard the John News of the world or

523
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Speaker 3: Kelsey's of the world with a Ramsey type, you know,

524
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Speaker 3: or a big, big safety or something like that as

525
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Speaker 3: opposed to being real heavy. But thirteen is a different world,

526
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Speaker 3: you know, Like, I don't think there's a blueprint for

527
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Speaker 3: we're going to get a heavy dosage of thirteen. I

528
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Speaker 3: always bring up the Ravens. The Ravens don't run much thirteen,

529
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Speaker 3: But the Ravens throw crazy stuff at you. I mean,

530
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Speaker 3: they're the number one twelve personnel team in the league.

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Speaker 3: But what's twelve with Recard or twenty two with Ricard?

532
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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, your back's two and fifty

533
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Speaker 3: pounds going to the Hall of Fame too, you and

534
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Speaker 3: your quarterback is the best runner in the league two.

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Speaker 3: You know, like, do we play nickel against this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, right, right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to pay attention to how the league

538
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Speaker 3: responds to thirteen because the players are so different too.

539
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Speaker 3: To your point, all three of these tight ends are

540
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Speaker 3: really different on the purpose.

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Speaker 2: That's what makes it. And again, I know we talked

542
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Speaker 2: about this earlier in the week. My kind of hope

543
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Speaker 2: for that being the Steelers' matchup nightmare, you know, their

544
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Speaker 2: matchup card.

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Speaker 3: It could be their their ACEP the sleeve.

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Speaker 2: You just alluded to what that is for Baltimore. We

547
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Speaker 2: all know for Cincinnati it's Burrow and Chase and t

548
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Speaker 2: and how they can just sling that thing all over

549
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Speaker 2: the field. I hope the Steelers kind of match up.

550
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Speaker 2: Nightmare for opposing defensive coordinators is how they gonna use

551
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Speaker 2: those tight ends, how they're gonna deploy them, and what

552
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Speaker 2: are we gonna look like when when it's it's such

553
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Speaker 2: and such on the field, so and so on the field.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sure most of our listeners are going to

555
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Speaker 3: watch Bill's Ravens on Sunday night. I better you're out

556
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Speaker 3: of your mind if you don't.

557
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Speaker 2: And racing. I'm racing home from the flight from the

558
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Speaker 2: MetLife to catch the start of it.

559
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Speaker 3: So like Alan and Lamar are the headliners. Of course

560
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 3: they may go down as all time greates. I think

561
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Speaker 3: there they blow me away. But you'll see if you

562
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Speaker 3: pay attention to this game, Buffalo is gonna come out

563
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Speaker 3: with a six offensive lineman a lot. The Ravens are

564
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Speaker 3: gonna come out with a lot not many wide receivers.

565
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Speaker 3: Just put it that way. You know it's gonna be Lamar, Henry, Ricard, Kohle,

566
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Speaker 3: Lar Likely Andrews. You might just have Zay Flowers out

567
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Speaker 3: there as the only receiver, Like, no one uses one

568
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Speaker 3: receiver less than the Ravens. And these are like to

569
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Speaker 3: the best offense in the league last year, if not

570
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Speaker 3: the best too, you know. And there's different ways to

571
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Speaker 3: do a.

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00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: Lot of ways to skin that cat. Yeah, yeah, And

573
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: you know that's what makes the intriguing from a defensive

574
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Speaker 2: coordinator perspective. There's no easy way. There's no perfect way

575
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: to go about defending all this. If there was, everybody

576
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: would run that scheme. Everybody would do it that way.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that's great about it too is

578
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Speaker 3: I say this every year, but especially once we gin

579
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Speaker 3: in the week. Week ones a little bit different. But

580
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Speaker 3: when you only have seven days to prepare, it really

581
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: isn't seven days for one thing. It's really only a

582
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Speaker 3: couple of practices, and it's just not as long of

583
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Speaker 3: a prep week as you usually it's a lot of

584
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: people think, you know, right, for man, we need a

585
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 3: lot of practice time against thirteen personnel all week long

586
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: trying to figure this stuff out, even if you only

587
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Speaker 3: get it twelve percent of the time, you know what

588
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mm.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, yeah, I I that's one of the things that

590
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Speaker 2: there there is less time in the week, certainly than

591
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Speaker 2: people realize.

592
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Speaker 3: Definitely less time on the grass with helmets on than

593
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Speaker 3: you think.

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Speaker 2: Especially once you get past week one and the schedules

595
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: start to change and Thursday night football and Monday night

596
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: football and travel and all those different things. Last one

597
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Speaker 2: from a Steelers offensive perspective to focus on with you, Matt,

598
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Speaker 2: how about this Steelers run game, the running backs in

599
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Speaker 2: particular Jalen Warren against you know, Williams and Sheerwood and

600
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Speaker 2: these off ball linebackers of the Jets.

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they they just are smaller, very active, good in coverage,

602
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: free flowing linebackers that make a lot of plays. And

603
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: the coverage stuff's important. You know. Quentin Williams brother, Quentin

604
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: Williams is a really really underrated player. It gets overshadowed

605
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Speaker 3: by his brother. But I just am thinking of all

606
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: the stretch outside zone stuff that the Steelers is just

607
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 3: an Arthur Smith staple. You're not gonna beat those guys

608
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Speaker 3: at the edge very often, you know, and you're gonna

609
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: have to get some big bodies, whether it's Washington, no

610
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: lineman covering those guys up downfield a little bit because

611
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: they can make a lot of plays.

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Speaker 2: Who there's a lot, There's a lot, and that's just

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Speaker 2: the Steelers offensive side of the football. Yeah, let's take

614
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Speaker 2: a break here and spend the block to the other side.

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Speaker 2: That worked for you, absolutely, but I want to continue

616
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Speaker 2: talking some matchups with you. We'll focus on him from

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Speaker 2: a Steelers defensive perspective when we return on the other side.

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Speaker 2: To close down the first hour of the drive, West

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Speaker 2: s Hueler and Matt Williamson with you here on Steelers

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your teams.

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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we are taking a

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Speaker 2: look at some matt between the Stellers and the Jets,

625
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Speaker 2: some five star matchups that are going to determine the

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Speaker 2: outcome of this one of course, Sunday one o'clock at

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Speaker 2: MetLife Stadium, matt our last segment there, we focused on

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Speaker 2: it more from a Steelers offensive perspective. If we spin

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Speaker 2: that block, if we go to the other side of

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Speaker 2: the football, where's the what's the headliner matchup for you

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a couple for sure, I mean, first

633
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Speaker 3: of all, just Tomlin Verse Fields, you know, like the

634
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Speaker 3: familiarity and all that. I mean, let's we'll break them

635
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Speaker 3: all down individually. But two really promising first round tackles

636
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Speaker 3: Verse welcome to the NFL. TJ and high Smith and

637
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Speaker 3: maybe her Big is a big one. God Speak is

638
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Speaker 3: a big one. And the other one, I think to

639
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Speaker 3: me is is Wilson Verse. What do they do with Wilson.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of options I want to dig into.

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Speaker 3: We can even start there if you want.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Let's get right into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So I would be shocked again new coaching staff

644
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Speaker 3: if we see a lot of three receiver sets from

645
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: the Jets, and they used a lot last year, but

646
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: that was Lizard and Adam and Will were talented, Rogers

647
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: was your quarterback. It wasn't fields. They couldn't be any

648
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 3: more different. So they did not use a lot of

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Speaker 3: multiple tight end stuff in New York last year. But

650
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: it's a whole new staff. Here's the second round pick

651
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: on a tight end. Who's promising. I mean Jason Taylor's kid,

652
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: willand Hills Jason Taylor. So I think you're also gonna

653
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 3: want to help those tackles. I think you're gonna get

654
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: bigger personnel than what the Jets played with last year.

655
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: Where I'm going with this is, I think the Steelers

656
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: will be in their base defense with four defensive backs

657
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: more than usual as a result, you know, because they

658
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: want to run the ball. I think you want to

659
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: be heavier, you want to nose tackle on the field

660
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 3: as opposed to an extra defensive back. Now, when they

661
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: made the Ramsey trade, I was kind of uncertain who

662
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: are their four defensive back gonna be, And it sure

663
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: seems like Thornhill won't be one of them. Ramsey will

664
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: be the free Elliott, It'll be the strong Porter and

665
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: Sleigh on the outside cool. I think that's your best

666
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: four guys. I'm a Thornhill fan, but those are your

667
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: best four football players certainly, and Ramsey can do it.

668
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: It's one of the beauties of them. However, I also

669
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: thought back then, when the deal happened, maybe you might

670
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: tell Slay we love you, but you're up in age

671
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: and we want you for twenty games. In those instances,

672
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: what if we gave you, took a little off your plate,

673
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, put Ramsey on the outside

674
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: Thornhill at free. So I thought, those are the two options.

675
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: You know, of what four group of four defensive backs

676
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: could you put out there? To me, those are the

677
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 3: only two options that makes any sense. And I one

678
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: hundred percent believe them that Ramsey's never leaving the field.

679
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: So he's either gonna be the outside corner, he's gonna

680
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: be the free in four dB sets. Now, Tomlin like,

681
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: I didn't night show with Mike Pursuda last night, and

682
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: he reminded me he's, like Tomlin said, if someone's following

683
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: around to number one, it's Jalen, you know, like I

684
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 3: love you there, I love you Joey. But this is

685
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: the alpha. This is mel Blunt, this is Woodson, this

686
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: is our dude. And you definitely got that impression of Camp.

687
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like he carries a lot of weight and

688
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: there's only one guy to follow, So would it be Jalen?

689
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 2: How does that look if if they're in base?

690
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want your best guy in deep middle?

691
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: Or is it the second scenario that I laid out there?

692
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: Or do you just trust the three of them and

693
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 3: say we're not going to follow him with one? We

694
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: like all of these guys. If it was a year ago.

695
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: I think Porter would follow them. It's not like this

696
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: is crazy talk. Slay's done it a ton in his career.

697
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 3: I know he's not as good a player now as

698
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: he was on his best day, but he's done it

699
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: a lot, and so maybe you just don't tip your

700
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 3: hand and wherever he lines up, we go that way

701
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: and Ramsey leans his direction over the top, you know

702
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: what I mean. So I think that's really interesting. Is

703
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: a lot of options?

704
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: Is that how you would go about about it? Because

705
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think that there is a

706
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: chance to win. The regular season's over and we have

707
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 2: those seventeen data points. This might be the game where

708
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: we see the highest percentage of bass from the Steelers.

709
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, very well.

710
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: Could Baltimore outside of the division. This feels like Buffalo.

711
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 3: The league in rushing attempts is here New York.

712
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: They certainly could.

713
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: I bet they want to.

714
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: They certainly could. So I think we'll see a lot

715
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: of bas against Bufalo. I think we'll see a lot

716
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: of bass against Detroit. Yeah, but this could be the

717
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: most that we see. So what's what's that look like

718
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: with how you would want to deploy Jalen Ramsey specifically, I.

719
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: Think how I would do it. First of all, I

720
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: meant to say, it's just a second ago. If whatever

721
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: you're doing is not working through two quarters, we'll do

722
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: something else, you know.

723
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 2: And as we talked about yesterday, we went through Matt stats,

724
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: that's one thing they did very well last year. Yeah,

725
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 2: best third quarter point differential in the league.

726
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right, that means when storing the game or good.

727
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: Whatever they were doing for those fifteen to twenty minutes during

728
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: halftime was working.

729
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

730
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point, you know. And even in game,

731
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: boy Wilson's tearing us up. We gotta you can't let

732
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: him tear you up. I don't care what happens. But

733
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: yes he'll get some catches. But like I don't want

734
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: to start DK Metcalf or Garrett Wilson in fantasy this week.

735
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 3: I think both of them I think are in for

736
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: long days. To be very honest with you, how I

737
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: would handle it for this game, Because most games I

738
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: think I would have Thornhill as the guy on the

739
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: sidelines with four just because I don't think he's as

740
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 3: good at football as Slay. But in this game, I

741
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: would sit Sleigh. And here's the reason. Because I do

742
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: think it's the first game that Ramsey's ever put a

743
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: Steeler helmet on for real, you know. And I think

744
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: it sends a message to everyone that you're gonna follow

745
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: Wilson Jalen And also Thornhill's better against the run, as

746
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: almost every safety is than Sleigh is, you know, like

747
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: if so, you know they're going to run the ball

748
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: a ton. If one of them has to get fields

749
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: down or breeze haul down twenty yards downfield, I trust

750
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: the safety to do it more than the corner, you

751
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

752
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Yes, that makes a ton of sense. And that is

753
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: from aside from the obvious storylines of Aaron Rodgers against

754
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: his old team, justin fields against his old team, new

755
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: coach for the Jets, Like, there is a ton in

756
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: this game. But that I think is the thing most

757
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: intrigued to see is how they're going to deploy that

758
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: secondary all year, but particularly against a Jets team that

759
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: so clearly wants to run the ball, run the ball,

760
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: run the ball right, and so clearly has one receiver

761
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: that can hurt you.

762
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and I also think Ramsey's probably certainly better against

763
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: the run than Slay as an outside corner. People don't

764
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: think about corners in against the run. That's a huge

765
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 3: theme now. I mean, like that's why the Mike Hilton's

766
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: of the world are going away, because they just run

767
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: Dereck Henry Adam over and over, you know what I mean?

768
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Rightly, right, exactly right, all right? Talk to me about

769
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Theer's edge rushers against those young bookend tackles for the Jets.

770
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: I think everyone knows what the edge rushers are all about.

771
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: I mean, and I don't think Watt's gonna move around much.

772
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: Maybe he does a little, but it's two snaps of game.

773
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's gonna get Membo. And for Shawn,

774
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: who's gonna get high Smith. Hopefully you mix in a

775
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: lot of herbig on throwing downs and maybe a little

776
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: bit of Sawyer on you know, heavy situations, you know.

777
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: But my I really like both these tackles. That's where

778
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: I want to stress it because I think everyone knows

779
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 3: who these Steeler guys are at this point. Membo was

780
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: my favorite offensive lineman in this draft when the Browns

781
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: and I was like, take an extra minute to throw

782
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: an arrow at the Browns. But when they made a time,

783
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: when they made the Travis Hunter trade. I thought, that's smart,

784
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: they can go build an offensive They had all these

785
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 3: picks and I killed them after the draft because they

786
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: drafted zero offensive line. But I would have drafted Membo,

787
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: not Mason Grant. That would have been my start. You know,

788
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: Like when the Browns were good is when their line

789
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: was good, you know, right know those guards and I

790
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: mean they were a good physical group up front. So

791
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: Membo I adore. But he's also a little bit more

792
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: of a boxier, get off the ball, blow your face

793
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: off guy, then light on his feet, dancing bear protection dude.

794
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: You know, sure for Shawn, who's more that dude. But

795
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: he's a little bit short armed, which is like at

796
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: this time last this would be two years ago. This

797
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: time two years ago, if you would look at like

798
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: draft lists, people talked about him like he could compete

799
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: for being the first overall pick, like this is a

800
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: special offensive tackle at Penn State. And I'm sure a

801
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: lot of Penn State fans remember him.

802
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: People were shocked when he came back for his senior

803
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: year at Penn State. Shockly right, like he's gonna be

804
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: a top five pick.

805
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: He's a no brainer, and his tape's awesome, But he

806
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: had a real rough day. I think it was against Sawyer.

807
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Actually he had a really a bad day against Ohio State.

808
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: And he goes to combine and his arms are a

809
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: little short. I mean, I think he's gonna be a

810
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: really good left tackle. But that's basically his scouter report too.

811
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: He's a little bit more of a protection guy. Membo

812
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: is a little bit more of a masher. I think

813
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: that's a great place to start to rebuild your team.

814
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: But the Steelers guys are better, you know what I mean.

815
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Yes, they're more proven. They are. They've got a lot

816
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: of All Pros and Pro Bowls between them. Yeah, but

817
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: those are I mean those are those are high pedigree

818
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: guys that were drafted even higher than Rodger Jones and

819
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: Troy Faltonhute right right right that this is a real

820
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: test for them out of the gate. And you know,

821
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: we talked about those talked about those sack numbers and

822
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: how we want to see that rise for the Steelers

823
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: this season. I think this is a good place to start. Yeah,

824
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: against the guy like fields that will hold it a

825
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: little bit too long and against some you know, some wet,

826
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: critical tackles.

827
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if this was a Jets keys. Ball's

828
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: got to come out Justin and if it doesn't, I know,

829
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: he's elusive and he's not easy to get on the ground,

830
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: but they'll get to him. Let's talk. You're a tucker.

831
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: Not being there doesn't help either. It hurts. It hurts

832
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: a big, big blow to what they want to do.

833
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: Let's talk about justin fields.

834
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: Now.

835
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: You said at the start of this segment, which I

836
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: thought was was funny, but it was very motes like

837
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: it reminded me of something he would have done justin

838
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: fields versus Mike Tomlin and Tarrell Austin. Yeah, yeah, you know,

839
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: and like he loved to throw those kind of matchups

840
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: in there, not necessarily guys that are on the field

841
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: against each other, players and coaches. And how how they

842
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: go about attacking him and trying to confuse him.

843
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll see what they do. They might take

844
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 3: the Lamar mush rush, keep him in the pocket. We

845
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: don't get sacks, so be it. But we just want

846
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: him sitting there patting the ball, and maybe they'll take

847
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: that approach. Now, one thing that I pursued and I

848
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: were talking about last night too, is I don't think

849
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: Steeler fans know unless you watched him with the Bears,

850
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: how good of a runner he really is. Rarely did

851
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: they feature him that way or rarely did he even

852
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: get an opportunity to really open it up because he

853
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: can fly and as one of the best running quarterbacks

854
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: I've ever lived, to be honest with you, and I

855
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: don't think the Jets are going to hesitate one bit.

856
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: I mean yard rush seasons right, So obviously he presents

857
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: a lot of problems on the ground, but through the

858
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 3: air he has a big arm, but he is very

859
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: much a see it and throw it guy. You know,

860
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: he's him and Rogers couldn't be any more different in

861
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: terms of anticipation, and his super high time to throw

862
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: is twofold thing. First of all, he's going to have

863
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: some of the Lamar snaps where it's five seconds because

864
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 3: he runs around and it's you know, he's making plays

865
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: behind the line of scrimmage. People can't get him on

866
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: the ground. But more than anything, even if he had

867
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: bad feet, he'd be a high time to throw guy

868
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: because he wait, wait, see it, throw it, you know,

869
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: And that's tough way to live in Ohio state. You

870
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: can do that when first round picks are blocking for

871
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: you and you're throwing to Marvin and JSN or whatever

872
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: or superstar recruit. You can do that because you get

873
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 3: the biggest arm in Georgia, you know what I mean.

874
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: It's tough to pull it off here.

875
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: You know, it certainly is against a group and a

876
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: coaching staff that's familiar with you and what you do

877
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: and your strengths and your weaknesses. Yeah.

878
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they know he doesn't like going to you know,

879
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: stuff we would never even think of. He really doesn't

880
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: like rolling to his left or you know, like I

881
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 3: always think about when they used to play Mayfield twice

882
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 3: a year. Mayfield had a terrible habit of anything went bad,

883
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 3: he rolled right and TJ would just sit there and

884
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 3: be like, I know he's coming. Sam's cause the problems

885
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 3: over the same issue, right right, right right. You know

886
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Cam's causing problems over there. I don't have to rush

887
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: up Field. He's gonna come to me. Boom done. You know, Like,

888
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 3: you learn these guys pretty good.

889
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: And they that one. I think it was the last

890
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: time Baker Mayfield played against the Steelers at hines Field

891
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: and Cam Hayward. I mean he had one of those

892
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: remember me, hits I don't know if you remember that,

893
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: but he about broke Baker Mayfield in half. Like I

894
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: almost felt bad for Baker Mayfield how much he got

895
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 2: just planted into the turf at Akerscher Stadium. And yeah,

896
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: that's that's a that's a good way to kind of

897
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: lay it out there. And some of those little things,

898
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: those little nuanced right that you know about a quarterback

899
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: that you spent a year with.

900
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: And of course you'll ask Arthur Smith and the quarterback

901
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: coach and all the what'd you guys work on? I

902
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: mean not that they would Tom that wouldn't know, but you.

903
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, one hundred last one here, Matt is. Obviously,

904
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: the run defenses is critical for the Steelers. Those defensive

905
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: linemen Camp Paig, were, Keanu Benton, why a Black, you know,

906
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: guys like Logan Lee and Aqualley, they're in louder Milk.

907
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: They're going to feature into this equation as well too,

908
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: against a talented obviously justin fields as we just talked,

909
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: but a talented tandem of running backs.

910
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm a big Breasseehall fan. And it sounds like

911
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: his percentage touches and role and role is going to

912
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: decrease a little bit because because they're a big committee group,

913
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: they seem to love Allen. I don't, but I see

914
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 3: what they like about him. He's remarkably young. I mean,

915
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: he came in the league like younger than Juju did.

916
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 3: And he's a linebacker turned running back at Wisconsin. And

917
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: he's big and he's fast and that's a good combination.

918
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's got great vision and I

919
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: don't think he's a great all around back. But they

920
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: like him. He's big and fast. So they're all three

921
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: of those guys, including fields, are going to carry the

922
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: ball a lot, you know, I mean by design, and

923
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: this time of year, fatigue always worries you. I mean

924
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: for all thirty two teams, totally. Tackling always worries you

925
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 3: run fits, things like that, just physical nature of playing

926
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: defense that you didn't do hit Latrobe or very little

927
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: in the preseason. And it's a tiny sample size, but

928
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: that little that the ones played in Carolina, they didn't

929
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: tackle very well. Yeah they didn't.

930
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: They did not that's a that's a good point actually.

931
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 3: And these guys will take it the house. These aren't

932
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: nausea that if you miss a tackle he ends up

933
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: with eight yards it could be seen later.

934
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent that I mean that

935
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: is I think the biggest game within the game is,

936
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers limiting the Jets run rushing attack

937
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: and making them one dimensional and then letting all those

938
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: all those justin fields things that we talked about bubble

939
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: up to the surface.

940
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: Last thing on that again, it's a Lions offensive staff

941
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: too that they stole from Detroit. Now, I don't know

942
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: what you can take out of that film though, because

943
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: golf is not a runner, you know what I mean,

944
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 3: Like they're gonna but they did a very diverse run scheme.

945
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: They don't just run two or three run plays over

946
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: and over. They throw a lot at you. And that

947
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: was without a running quarterback. So what kind of run

948
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: plays you're gonna see? I don't know.

949
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: Some very interesting wrinkles, I think, say the least hour

950
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: in the books another hour to go, we'll get into

951
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: all kinds of NFL pick them Steelers predictions and picks.

952
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: On the other side, we do have to talk a

953
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: little bit about I don't know, is it spitgate they

954
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: is there a name for last night now as well?

955
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: I heard them calling them cde Lamb drops instead of

956
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: lamb chops.

957
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: That's tough. That's tough. We got a game tonight, all

958
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: kinds of games this weekend to get into, plenty to

959
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Speaker 2: get to. In our number two West Wheeler and Matt Williamson,

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