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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 2: was foolish. Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on

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Speaker 2: Revolver podcast dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you

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Speaker 3: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 4: Let's Go Guy, John Nick.

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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. Oh my god, you want a podcast? Great,

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Speaker 3: say have some audio on your website that nobody goes to.

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Speaker 3: Here're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Kenflo. What's going on in the world? My man?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hoping this is going to be therapeutic today.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's good to see you and see you smiling a

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Speaker 6: little bit. It's Monday, March sixteenth, twenty twenty, episode two

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Speaker 6: forty one of the Anakin Florian Podcast. Likely at episode

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Speaker 6: we will not soon forget as this global pandemic continues.

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Speaker 6: The coronavirus obviously on the hearts and minds of everyone

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Speaker 6: as we all try to make the right decision and

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Speaker 6: do what is right for our families to the best

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Speaker 6: of our abilities with all of these different work variables

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Speaker 6: and things that people are dealing with and children under

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Speaker 6: the age of ten, which you have one. It's crazy, man.

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Speaker 6: I mean we've been texting back and forth, spoke a

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Speaker 6: little bit off the air. Just crazy that we were

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Speaker 6: sitting here last Monday so impassioned talking about fights that

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Speaker 6: now seem just so insignificant.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting, man. It reminds me of the

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Speaker 7: Jurassic Park line where life finds a way and it

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Speaker 7: could happen in a negative way and it could happen

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Speaker 7: in a positive way. And I think hopefully this is

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Speaker 7: one of those situations where it gets people to think

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Speaker 7: outside of themselves and just to be safer. And you know,

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Speaker 7: this is one of those invisible enemies that really could

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Speaker 7: take out a lot of people. And people tend to think, well,

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Speaker 7: you know, I'm young, i'm healthy, it doesn't affect me,

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Speaker 7: I'm fine.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: Well, again, you're the person who can carry that to

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Speaker 7: someone who might not be able to deal with it.

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Speaker 7: If someone you know is dealing with a big time surgery,

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Speaker 7: or if someone's dealing with, you know, recovering from cancer,

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Speaker 7: that thing. So it is very scary. It is very dangerous.

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Speaker 7: People should take this seriously. You know, we had to

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Speaker 7: shut down our gym both in Boston, Florida Martial Arts

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Speaker 7: you know, if someone's going to get this kind of thing,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be from doing something where you're in

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Speaker 7: lot of people are in some tough times right now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, May Rocky BJJ close for at least a week

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Speaker 6: and for the Florida Martial Arts Center there in Brookline, Massachusetts,

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Speaker 6: every single restaurant and bar, with the exception of takeout,

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Speaker 6: has been closed in the state of Massachusetts until April seventeenth.

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Speaker 5: As we sit here on Monday, March sixteenth.

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Speaker 7: Los Angeles just just put a cabash on everything as well.

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Speaker 7: No gyms. You can't use the gym anyway now as

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Speaker 7: of last night. Okay, restaurants, bars not supposed to anyway.

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Speaker 7: You can only take out food now, and I supposely

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Speaker 6: So we promised the bulk of this hour will be

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Speaker 5: You know, I got the call.

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Speaker 6: I wasn't supposed to be working the show obviously, but

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Speaker 6: But for a business like yours, and for I have

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Speaker 6: There are so many angles and layers to this crisis,

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Speaker 6: dealing with it, having impassioned conversations, begging people in my

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna try to talk a lot about fighting,

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Speaker 6: a crazy Monday, you know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, man, And again, you know, in relation to

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Speaker 7: should the UFC be doing these things? You know, you

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Speaker 7: organizations with billions of dollars behind them, have shut things down.

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Speaker 7: I'm interested to see how this develops.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I spoke with Ray Longo off the

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Speaker 5: Let's get to the Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 3: Now, time for the Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to punch a hole in this fucking shot.

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Speaker 3: That's what I want with the Ray long minute during

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Speaker 3: Ray long Ago the John Nnik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: Well, we are happy to report that Ray Longo just

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Speaker 6: Wideman Mixed Martial Arts essentially has closed in definitely. I

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Speaker 6: right Longo. I mean, you've got a fighter who scheduled

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, we have Maki Mizuki fighting Tisha Torres, which

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Speaker 4: I mean, it gets worse every day, it's not getting better.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a lot of Americans are sort of

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Speaker 6: not just financial aid, but making decisions for small business owners,

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Speaker 6: you know, for fathers like me and like Kenny. Last week,

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Speaker 6: My wife is literally downstairs homeschooling my daughter's expectant that

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll tell you listen parw with to your wife too.

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Speaker 4: And it's always great to talk to responsible people because

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Speaker 4: and my conversation to cancel this borring last night was, look,

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Speaker 4: That's where the problem is, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: Point, right, No, And I think that's where the focus

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Speaker 6: People stayed home and just didn't interact with each other.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a big part of it is

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Speaker 7: We don't have to worry about this. This is just

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Speaker 7: So just go out there, read information about this, get

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Speaker 6: I guess if you were the commissioner, I mean, is

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kenny, It's a hard thing to think about obviously

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Speaker 6: Hey, Ray, Obviously we had a main event between Kevin

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Speaker 6: And if anybody can throw that opinion out there, it's

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Speaker 7: I loved it. That was great.

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Speaker 6: But the last time Mosfidal was finished, guys was the

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Speaker 7: And I think Kevin Lee's big problem is exactly what

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Speaker 7: bj penn I all these things. These happen, but you

433
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Speaker 7: know what, at the end of the day, you gotta

434
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Speaker 7: look at yourself and go, what the hell am I

435
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Speaker 7: doing wrong here? And you gotta go and fix it.

436
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Speaker 7: Don't start pointing your finger at this guy or that

437
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 7: guy the end of the day, unfortunately for Kevin Lee.

438
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Speaker 7: And listen, I like itim. I've had conversation with Kevin Lee.

439
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Speaker 7: He's a nice guy, but you got to look at

440
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Speaker 7: your own mistakes and be real with yourself. He lost

441
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Speaker 7: to one hundred and forty five pounder, okay, and Charles olivera.

442
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Speaker 7: He didn't even make the weight. He looked like he

443
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Speaker 7: was getting beat everywhere. This is a jiu jitsu. Go

444
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 7: look at Charles Olivera when he came into the game,

445
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Speaker 7: and the loss is that he's experienced and how good

446
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Speaker 7: he looks. Now. This is a guy who was looking

447
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Speaker 7: to fix his mistakes and he's come back better because

448
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 7: of it. Kevin Lee has just made excuses and this

449
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 7: is why he's in the position he's in today. It's unfortunate,

450
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Speaker 7: but this game is brutal, and but you gotta be

451
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Speaker 7: brutal with yourself as well.

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Speaker 4: No no question about it. And he thinks he was

453
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Speaker 4: winning the fight, right, I know, it was crazy. He

454
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Speaker 4: was getting pummeled standing up.

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Speaker 7: He lost every aspect of that fight. I mean he

456
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Speaker 7: was in he was in maybe fifteen submissions around it seemed.

457
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Speaker 7: I mean, he was always getting caught, he was throwing

458
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Speaker 7: himself into submissions, he was getting beat up on the feet.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know. There was no aspect that

460
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Speaker 7: he actually won that fight. So that's a tough one.

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Speaker 4: You you know what's crazy he Kennedy. You know, he's

462
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Speaker 4: a he's an apoleague. You know, he he's got attributes,

463
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Speaker 4: but that one attribute sitting in his brain is just

464
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Speaker 4: wrecking that whole thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, all right, my man.

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Speaker 6: Well, we hope you stay safe and UH isolate yourself

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Speaker 6: as best you can, and I guess we won't see

468
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Speaker 6: you on March twenty eighth, wherever that UFC show ends

469
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: up going down, perhaps it won't go down, but UH

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Speaker 6: appreciate your time and your candor as always, my man,

471
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Speaker 6: you got anything else before we let you fly?

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Speaker 4: I think that's uh. I hope things change within the

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Speaker 4: next two weeks, but I don't see him changing. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll try to keep everybody training and the best I

475
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Speaker 4: can and hope hopefully stay safe at the same time.

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Speaker 4: But puts everybody in a weird position though, no.

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Speaker 7: Doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: Thankfully, Longo's got some masks, so UH share thosemen and Algael.

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something I have masking a good

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Speaker 4: seven long baby. I'll tell you I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Telling you all right, if you and the family stay safe.

482
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Speaker 4: Ry yeah, you and all of you guys to me,

483
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 4: because I don't believe it's a joke and I think

484
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Speaker 4: we should take it soon, So stay safe, guys.

485
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Speaker 6: All right there he is very long Goo every week

486
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Speaker 6: here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So Brazilia show happens,

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow the only real live sporting event. There's some

488
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Speaker 6: Mexican soccer leagues and other leagues that are still going strong.

489
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Speaker 6: For lack of a better adjective, I guess, but no

490
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Speaker 6: crowd in Brazil at one point nine straight decisions. You know,

491
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 6: it's just crazy watching that show as a fan. But

492
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Speaker 6: Charles Olivera really has impressed me over the course of

493
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Speaker 6: the seven fight winning streak. Tweet here from B. E.

494
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 6: Smiths B. E. Smith and Olvera's always impressed me in spurts,

495
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Speaker 6: but in the last two years he's really sanded down

496
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Speaker 6: some of his rough edges. Now I don't take exception

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Speaker 6: with you referring to him as a forty five or

498
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Speaker 6: even though I think he missweighted I think three or

499
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Speaker 6: four times in the UFC at featherweight, but certainly has

500
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Speaker 6: come into the frame. He certainly has added some muscle mass,

501
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Speaker 6: I do believe, even though I'm not the go to

502
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Speaker 6: guy when it comes to technical acumen, but I have

503
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Speaker 6: seen strides in his development as a striker. But I'm

504
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Speaker 6: just really happy for this kid because now all of

505
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Speaker 6: a sudden and maybe it takes a signature win like

506
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Speaker 6: this in a main event. But look at the body

507
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 6: of work. Look at the all time UFC wins list.

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Speaker 6: No man has finished more UFC opponents by submission or

509
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Speaker 6: knockout than Charles Olivera. And now he's in lightweight contention

510
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Speaker 6: and not dealing with that weight cut that was really

511
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 6: really difficult for him. So just happy for a Brazilian

512
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Speaker 6: kid who came into the UFC August first, two thousand

513
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Speaker 6: fucking ten, coming up on his ten year anniversary on

514
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 6: this roster, and at least to my eyes, it's all

515
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Speaker 6: coming together.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. Listen, you know there's still things for him to

517
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Speaker 7: work on. Of course there always it is in the

518
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Speaker 7: martial arts, but this is a guy who has really

519
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Speaker 7: faced his weaknesses and really acknowledged those things and has

520
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 7: come back stronger each and every fight. So his smart

521
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Speaker 7: approach I think in the gym is really paying up. Also,

522
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 7: you got to look at the fighters that he's faced.

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Speaker 7: I think he's faced a lot of fighters that allowed

524
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Speaker 7: him to build up his skill set and build up

525
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Speaker 7: his confidence to where it is right now. That is

526
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 7: often such an ignored aspect of the sport, both amongst

527
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 7: the coaches, the managers, and the fighters just taking any

528
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 7: fight is stupid, Okay, you got to look at where

529
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Speaker 7: you are, where you're at, at the point of your career,

530
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Speaker 7: where your skills are at, how you match up against

531
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Speaker 7: that other person, so you can build off of those

532
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 7: skills to get better over time. And Charles Olivera I think,

533
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Speaker 7: has done a wonderful job of picking the right opponents

534
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 7: to build himself up. Beating Kevin Lee at this point

535
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Speaker 7: in his career, now he can kind of move up.

536
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Speaker 7: And this guy's been killing it for a long time. Look,

537
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Speaker 7: you mentioned all those things. He has the most amount

538
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Speaker 7: of submissions in the UFC, most amount of finishes, all

539
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 7: those things, and now he's put himself in a position

540
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 7: right And this was a long term plan to maybe

541
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Speaker 7: fight for the belt one day at one hundred and

542
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Speaker 7: fifty five pounds. So it's amazing what he's done.

543
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Speaker 6: Last loss was to Paul Felder by TK was UFC

544
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 6: two eighteen December of twenty seventeen. He's been perfect since.

545
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 6: Clay Guida, Christos Yago's, Jim Miller, David Tamer, Nick Lentz,

546
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Speaker 6: Jared Gordon, Kevin Lee. A couple of those fights against

547
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 6: Miller and Lentz rematches which aren't easy, but gosh, I

548
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 6: mean you go back to his UFC debut forty one

549
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: second arm bar of Darren Elkins August won twenty ten,

550
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 6: and then just so many big names to your point,

551
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 6: Lomises and Serony's and Cub Swanson, Frankie Edgar wins over

552
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Speaker 6: Hatsu Hioki last decision win against Jeremy Stevens December twelfth,

553
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Speaker 6: twenty fourteen, putting everybody away. And you know, I think

554
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Speaker 6: a Felder rematch at a main event situation all of

555
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 6: a sudden has legs. I did hint the UFC lightweight

556
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 6: rankings can flow, So you know, kabem Ferguson tied up,

557
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 6: Pooria tied up. McGregor is not going to be the

558
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: next opponent for Charles Olivera. Norton is fourth rank Justin Gaigee,

559
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 6: number five is Dan Hooker.

560
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 5: He's tied up.

561
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: Some people have suggested a rematch with Donald Soroni, who

562
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: is number six in the world. And there you got

563
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Speaker 6: Paul Felder at number seven, Charles Olivera lurking down at

564
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: number fourteen in the world. You're right, I mean he

565
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 6: has put himself on that path that he hoped to

566
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: put himself on and crazy seven straight wins for Charles

567
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Speaker 6: Olivera also want to quickly before we bring on Ian Parker,

568
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 6: talk about Gilbert Dureno Burns, and there's a bias side

569
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 6: of this as well. Damien Maya beat Jorge Mosfidal like

570
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 6: not that long ago and now he'd probably be a

571
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 6: plus four hundred underdog against Game Bread. But here is

572
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Speaker 6: a tweet here from Roy Perez with two Z's school,

573
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Speaker 6: Roy Q Big Fan. Do you guys believe that Gilbert

574
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Speaker 6: Burns has what it takes to be competing with the

575
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 6: welter away top three right now? Because I do don't

576
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 6: want to read too much into this win, but if

577
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 6: you look at the streak, there's plenty to read into.

578
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: I still believe that in terms of Gilbert Burns's championship trajectory,

579
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: fifty five is the division for him, but he certainly

580
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: has put himself on a path to welterweight contention, not unlike.

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Speaker 5: Olivera fifty five.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Gilbert Durinho Burns with obviously a big

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Speaker 6: highlight over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I've seen a huge change in Gilbert's

585
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 7: attitude and in his game as well. When he basically

586
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 7: maybe it was about a year and a half ago,

587
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 7: maybe two years, where he just decided to just take

588
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: each and every fight, whatever fight was available. Gilbert Burns

589
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 7: was out there. He was colin fighters out left and right.

590
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 7: He was actively seeking fights on short notice. He wanted

591
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Speaker 7: to stay active. He was. He was a lot more vocal,

592
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 7: it seemed, on social media looking for fights, and this

593
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 7: has truly helped him now. I don't know if it's

594
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 7: both a combination of him just training more, feeling more confident,

595
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 7: or maybe this leading to that confidence. But you know,

596
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Speaker 7: he has looked fantastic as of late. I don't know,

597
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Speaker 7: you know, if he is a guy who could beat

598
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Speaker 7: the top three at this point, I think he's getting there,

599
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 7: but getting a win over a legend like Damian Maya,

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Speaker 7: a guy that I know, he he has looked up

601
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Speaker 7: to for a very long time, A guy who was

602
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Speaker 7: certainly much larger than him than him, or looked much

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Speaker 7: larger than him. In the octagon, I thought, you know,

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Speaker 7: I thought he looked very impressive. That left hook was

605
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Speaker 7: just tremendous. It was technically sound. It was something that

606
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Speaker 7: Damian Maya never saw it seemed like he didn't throw

607
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 7: a lot into it, but his structure and everything was perfect.

608
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Speaker 7: Landed it beautifully, knocking Damian Maya down and his follow

609
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Speaker 7: up obviously this guy who was looking to take him

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Speaker 7: out right from the get go. So Gilbert Burns is

611
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 7: on fire right now. He was actively seeking a fight

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Speaker 7: against Tyrood Woodley. I'm not sure he's gonna get that

613
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Speaker 7: at this point, but yeah, I was blown away. Man.

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Speaker 7: That's a huge, huge win and it definitely a win

615
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Speaker 7: that's going to change his career moving forward now.

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Speaker 6: Aided style points and Gilbert Urinho Burns certainly got them,

617
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Speaker 6: All right, so back to the tweets here as we

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Speaker 6: welcome to Ian Parker. This one from at d canned

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Speaker 6: guiter Daniel canned guiter Am. I the only one who

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Speaker 6: loved the event with no fans. The only thing I

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Speaker 6: had a problem was with the awkward announcement of the fighters' names.

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Speaker 5: Everything else was awesome.

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Speaker 6: Ian totally weird watching a live event with that type

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Speaker 6: of backdrop. I'd be lying if I wasn't thinking at

658
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Speaker 6: one point as a play by play guy, this would

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Speaker 6: be the only time I could actually take a piss

660
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Speaker 6: octagon side, you know, because if you're calling an NFL

661
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Speaker 6: game from a broadcast booth, you can piss in a gallon.

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Speaker 6: But I'm thinking, hey, I have no fans behind me.

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Speaker 6: I could have an empty gallon and take a piss

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Speaker 6: in between rounds.

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Speaker 8: Is so now that we know that's what you do

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Speaker 8: during the prelims of every single card for ESPN plus.

667
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Speaker 8: So now when we we hear John going, we know

668
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Speaker 8: that he's just zipping up the fly during during the fights,

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Speaker 8: You know what, it was kind of nice to not

670
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Speaker 8: hear those stupid woods and to kind of hear people

671
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Speaker 8: going hey every time a kick was blocked.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, I think for the fans at home, it didn't

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Speaker 8: make much of a difference. I can only imagine what

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Speaker 8: it was like for the fighters though, that were fighting

676
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Speaker 8: at home. It almost took away that home court and

677
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Speaker 8: managed type of situation. Uh. It was interesting to see

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Speaker 8: some walkouts, you know, Kevin Lee's quarter guy pulling the

679
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 8: finger up, walking the whole way until Kevin walked in.

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Speaker 8: You know, I was kind of like, dude, you know,

681
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Speaker 8: you know, no one could see your finger except for us.

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Speaker 8: At what point did that like that changed a pointing down?

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Speaker 8: It was a little awkward. No, you know what, it's

684
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Speaker 8: just listen. If we want the fights to go on,

685
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Speaker 8: we just got to accept it for what it is.

686
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Speaker 8: And if that means no fans, I guess it's what

687
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Speaker 8: it is at the moment.

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Speaker 6: So I've showed this on the show before, and I

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Speaker 6: apologize if you're audio only, but this is a travel John.

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Speaker 6: They spelled John the wrong way with the h in there.

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Speaker 6: It's a disposable personal urinal bag with lick Sorb super

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Speaker 6: absorbent pouch, so for men, women and children if you're

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Speaker 6: in a pinch. So our director Anthony Giordano ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: the Great ag GEO, gave me that travel John just

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Speaker 6: in case we get into a real hairy situation at

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Speaker 6: the broadcast.

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Speaker 5: So all right, So obviously.

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Speaker 6: Ian made the decision to continue with this event in Brazilia.

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Speaker 6: As I said off the top of the show, I'm

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Speaker 6: on standby for Saturday night. Remains to be seen as

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Speaker 6: to whether or not there is going to be an event.

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Speaker 7: Or where it would be.

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Speaker 6: Were you surprised with all the other primary high profile

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Speaker 6: sports organization stepping aside, that Dana White and company decided

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Speaker 6: to trudge onwards.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's two schools of thought with this. Obviously,

707
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Speaker 8: some of the fighters, some that are on the outside,

708
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 8: you know, looking in, trying to get in and see

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Speaker 8: this as opportunity. You know, some of them this is

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Speaker 8: how they feed their families and stuff. I think it's

711
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Speaker 8: absolutely crazy though, when all these major organizations around the world,

712
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Speaker 8: i mean Mexican soccer last night, they just started canceling

713
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Speaker 8: their leagues. There's literally nobody left, and I guess the

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Speaker 8: only ones that can move forward is combat sport because

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Speaker 8: I think every state in all the countries are starting

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Speaker 8: to limit i think events or places to only fifty people.

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Speaker 8: So you know, the UFC is like, you don't know

718
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Speaker 8: what we can do this without fifty people. And you know,

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Speaker 8: at what point is there a line drawn, you know,

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Speaker 8: for the risk of these fighters. I mean in Brazil,

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Speaker 8: if they really did not test for the coronavirus, there

722
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 8: was blood, there was sweat, God only knows what else.

723
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Speaker 8: I mean, you had, you have a piss bag, so

724
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, at least you're good. Yeah, I'll

725
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 8: but yeah, you're like Jim carrying dumb and dumber. You'll

726
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Speaker 8: pee in a bottle, you don't give a shit. But

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00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 8: the thing is you could be in the thing.

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Speaker 7: You could be in the same room having a conversation

729
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Speaker 7: with someone and get this of course right.

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Speaker 8: Well that right, that makes my point. So like instead

731
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Speaker 8: of being airborne speaking, they're I mean grappling exchange. It's

732
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Speaker 8: just crazy to me that this is still happening. The

733
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Speaker 8: risk is not worth the reward in my in my eyes,

734
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Speaker 8: but you know, it's it's a really wild situation. Everything

735
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Speaker 8: is shutting down. It's like, you know, this is this

736
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Speaker 8: is fucking crazy.

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Speaker 6: So we were talking about the Damien and Maya fight

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Speaker 6: against Gilbert Durenyo Burns. In terms of Damian Maya, we

739
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Speaker 6: said before we brought you on, you know, he beat

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Speaker 6: Jorge Mosfittal by split decision like two and a half

741
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Speaker 6: years ago. Now if they thought he's like plus four hundred.

742
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Speaker 6: He has mentioned Diego Sanchez or Donald Ceroni as a

743
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Speaker 6: possible next opponent. And I wanted your thoughts on on

744
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 6: the Maya side of this, the burn side of this,

745
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Speaker 6: and what you think both parties will do from here

746
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Speaker 6: after what.

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Speaker 5: We saw Saturday.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I thought Damiens still look incredible in the

749
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Speaker 8: jiu jitsu exchanges. He led all those exchanges, and I

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Speaker 8: give credit to Gilbert for staying calm and getting out

751
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Speaker 8: of it. He didn't get out of it like it

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Speaker 8: was nothing, though, you know, Damien still very much put

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Speaker 8: him in some pressure situations. I mean, you know, Gilbert's

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Speaker 8: one of the top guys out there in jiu jitsu. Also,

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Speaker 8: younger doesn't have a neck, so it's harder to get

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Speaker 8: to get around, you know, but you know that's a

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Speaker 8: huge advantage. Kenny. That should be illegal. You should have

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Speaker 8: to have at least this much of a neck, you know,

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Speaker 8: not just chin to traps to shoulder. That's that's really

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Speaker 8: not fair.

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Speaker 7: But his neck should be on a milk carton. Dude,

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Speaker 7: it's non existing. We haven't found one. If you've seeing

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Speaker 7: his police report.

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Speaker 8: His brother, his brother's got a log neck, so I'm

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Speaker 8: really surprised Herbert's got both necks for his lack of deck.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of interesting. But Kenny liked that one. I

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Speaker 8: got him to sit back in his chair. Yes, you know,

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Speaker 8: I think I think for Damien he deserves that farewell

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Speaker 8: fight to someone that he could kind of had that

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Speaker 8: advantage with. I think Diego would give him that, especially

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Speaker 8: the way Diego fights now. I think Damie would probably

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Speaker 8: submit him in the first round against Cowboys Seroni. It

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Speaker 8: would force him to exchange and strike, and I don't

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Speaker 8: give him the advantage there at all, you know. And

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Speaker 8: I think Gilbert, as we Kenny to Baya both said

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Speaker 8: this this is just his time. He's he's putting it

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Speaker 8: all together at the right time. That left hook was

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Speaker 8: I don't even know if he had that much power

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Speaker 8: behind it. He just connected at the right time. But

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Speaker 8: they showed the film that him and Henry were really

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Speaker 8: working on that early on, so that wasn't something that

782
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Speaker 8: was not planned. But this dude, just man. I would

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Speaker 8: have loved to see him versus Woodley. I guess Woodley

784
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Speaker 8: didn't feel that he was ranked high enough to give

785
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Speaker 8: him that opportunity. But man, I'm excited for Gilbert. This

786
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 8: is great. I love fresh blood in the division. He's

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Speaker 8: dangerous manwhere and everywhere. It's i mean, a striking coming

788
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Speaker 8: along and we know he's fantastic on the ground, so

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Speaker 8: I'm excited for him. Great win for him. I hate

790
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Speaker 8: to see Damien get knocked like that, but you know, yeah,

791
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 8: the sport, the sport waits for no one.

792
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Speaker 6: So look what Burns is doing in these two divisions.

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Speaker 6: Top twenty five pound for pound for me, Gilbert Urinho Burns,

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Speaker 6: no question about a kem flow. For Damian Maya. You

795
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Speaker 6: called him a legend, obviously, and he is every bit that.

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Speaker 6: Last week on the show, I mean, if anybody has

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Speaker 6: earned the right to call his final shot. Some thought

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Speaker 6: maybe there'd be a rematch with Anderson Silva. I think

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Speaker 6: the Diego Sanchez fight makes sense, I think a fight

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Speaker 6: with Seroni makes sense because that's the guy he's chasing

801
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Speaker 6: on the wins list. What do you think the future

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Speaker 6: holds for your guy, Damian Maya, You.

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Speaker 7: Know, listen, I think that this is a guy who

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Speaker 7: definitely is a future Hall of Famer. I think for

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Speaker 7: his final fight, he should be able to call the

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Speaker 7: shots to a certain extent. I think a fight against

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Speaker 7: Seroni probably makes a little bit more sense than a

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Speaker 7: Diego Sanchez, you know. I think for his legacy, I

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Speaker 7: think a win over Seroni would certainly do more and

810
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Speaker 7: establish himself as an absolute Hall of Famer, if there's

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Speaker 7: anyone who has any doubt about that at this point.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he gets in either way, but a win

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Speaker 7: over someone like a SERRONI I think it would be

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Speaker 7: a great way to go out of this sport. And

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Speaker 7: Damian Maya certainly deserves the ability to kind of pick

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Speaker 7: his opponent at this point and listen for Seroni. If

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Speaker 7: Seroni beat someone like Damian Maya, that is a big deal.

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Speaker 7: So I think, you know, Maya has established himself as

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Speaker 7: a big player in the welterweight division. This has changed

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Speaker 7: Gilbert Burns' trajectory in a big way. It could put

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Speaker 7: you know, Seroni back on the mat map if that's

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Speaker 7: a fight that happened. So I like the Seroni Damian

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Speaker 7: Maya fight best.

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Speaker 6: And we got a tweet here from Ard nine to

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Speaker 6: seven three to at Annik Florian pod on Charles Olivera.

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Speaker 6: He's a problem for anyone right now. Would really be

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Speaker 6: interesting to see his crazy bottom game versus Kabib's top

828
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Speaker 6: game on the ground.

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Speaker 5: We went through the lightweight rankings.

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Speaker 6: Where do you stand on Charles Olivera as bona fide

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Speaker 6: lightweight contender and who would you like to see him

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Speaker 6: fight next?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 8: You know what, this was the perfect scenario for him,

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Speaker 8: I want first off, man. His striking looked good, you know,

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Speaker 8: I thought that was the best we saw him. He

837
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Speaker 8: pushed forward, he wasn't even looking to shoot in right away.

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Speaker 8: That flying kicky threw his jab looked good. The uppercut

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Speaker 8: looked good. I didn't like the way though he was

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Speaker 8: he was taking a lot of big shots with Kevin Lee. Also,

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Speaker 8: I think Lee was just so drained from that weight

842
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Speaker 8: cut that the power just wasn't normally there. Like those

843
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Speaker 8: shots actually was what I thought would put oliver away

844
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Speaker 8: if that was the case. But you know, there's one

845
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Speaker 8: name that comes to mind. I don't think he's next

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Speaker 8: for the title shot because I don't think beating Kevin

847
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Speaker 8: Lee get you there. Personally, I'd love to see him

848
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Speaker 8: fight justin Geegee. You know, I know Gegee's waiting around,

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Speaker 8: but we can't play this waiting game. Guy's gotta fight,

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Speaker 8: you know. And I think, if you want to again,

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Speaker 8: this is two guys coming off of some great wins.

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Speaker 8: How long does Geechee want to stay shelved for? How

853
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 8: long this Oliver Oliver is not gonna wait either, And

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Speaker 8: to me, that presents a pretty wild matchup. We haven't

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Speaker 8: seen Gaechee be put on his back and get the submission. Guy.

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Speaker 8: You know, I guess someone like Habib here's the only problem.

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Speaker 8: And Kenny brought this up in his prediction about for

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Speaker 8: Kevin Lee. Though, if you put Alliverra on his back,

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Speaker 8: you could smother him, and Kevin Lee did do that

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00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 8: at the end of round two. If Habib is on

861
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 8: top of all of era, I don't think olivera gets

862
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 8: that submission. I think if he's gonna beat Habib, he's

863
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 8: got to use the striking the way he did and

864
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 8: he's got to get on Habib's back. That's how he

865
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 8: beats him. But he looked as good as ever. And John,

866
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 8: you made a good point, you know, the shine. I

867
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 8: don't know if he got enough of it with everything

868
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 8: going on, but what a tremendous win and the mean

869
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 8: and that with all those shit that went on last week,

870
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 8: that was great for him. I mean to finish Kevin Lee.

871
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 6: Like that, awesome cam floy I got a tweet here

872
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 6: from at cap Kobe God would admit. Oliver is a

873
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 6: great all round fighter and he needs to get his due.

874
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 6: I think the English factors big, but he's got all

875
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 6: the makings of a star. He is a star. I

876
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 6: do think the English language component factors in here, because

877
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 6: we've seen a lot of fighters really embrace it, and

878
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 6: a lot of other fighters like Jose Aldo not embrace

879
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 6: it at all. Right, I could sit here and talk

880
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: about Junior Dos Santos and Amanda Nunez and Granted and

881
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 6: Joan Way, and for some of these fighters it just

882
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 6: happens in a more seamless easier way learning the I'm

883
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 6: a fucking idiot, Like if I had to learn Brazilian

884
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 6: Portuguese right now, there's no fucking way. I can pronounce

885
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: certain things, and I can with annunciations, but there's no way.

886
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: And Kenny speaks a bunch of different languages. But for

887
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 6: Charles Olavera, right, if you were to criticize that, you

888
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 6: would not be out of line. Ten years into the UFC,

889
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 6: A guy who has lived in the United States for

890
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 6: a long time, there's no denying his star power would

891
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 6: be in a different stratosphere if he spoke the native.

892
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 7: Tongue without a doubt. And this is why you get

893
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 7: fighters like Jeangway Lee who is really studying English and

894
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 7: learning in a very quick amount of time. It's extremely impressive,

895
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 7: impressive junior descentos. I feel like learned English in like

896
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: six months, and I feelt like it took Anderson Silva,

897
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 7: you know, maybe like ten years, twelve years as well.

898
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 7: You know, it took him a little bit longer before

899
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 7: you started hearing him do a lot more interviews in English.

900
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 7: So you know, any time you're able to, you know,

901
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 7: connect with the large fan base, which is going to

902
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 7: be the English speakers, I think it's going to help

903
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 7: you a tremendous amount. Whether it gives you opportunity to

904
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 7: do interviews to express yourself, you know, ask for the

905
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 7: fights in English, you know, so they could promo it

906
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 7: on you know, on the advertisements for the big main

907
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 7: events or whatever. So that would would have certainly helped

908
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 7: Charles Olovera because his his style has always been very

909
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 7: pleasing to the eye. He's exciting, he's always looking for

910
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: the finish. But I think this is one of those

911
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 7: fights that's really going to get people's attention. So from

912
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 7: here on out, I think he definitely is going to

913
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 7: be more of a star.

914
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

915
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: I agree with all that, and I think Ian is right.

916
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 6: It really was the perfect storm. And I'm not even

917
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 6: talking about the Corona coronavirus putting the rest of the

918
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 6: sports world in dark mode, right, Yeah, main event, your

919
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 6: opponent taps and then keeps fighting, which gets guys like

920
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 6: Jorge Mosfital to chime in, and it just made this

921
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 6: thing mushroom a little bit, all right. We got a

922
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 6: tweet here from Danner's nineteen ninety eight Daniel o' farah

923
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 6: wants to know, Ian Parker, gun to your head. Does

924
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 6: the big fight between Abib Nomongo Mata and Tony Ferguson

925
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 6: happen next month?

926
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 8: Yes? I think that if Data is going to push

927
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 8: Brazil and all these other fights, I definitely think that's

928
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 8: the one that he is going to do. I think, listen,

929
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 8: whether it's a pay per view, whether it's not, it's

930
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 8: gonna be man Hell or high water. Data White is

931
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 8: moving forward with Hebi versus Tony. If he needs to

932
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 8: use my backyard, he can. At this point, I don't care.

933
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 8: I want to see that fight. Also, John, I just

934
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 8: don't want you to have to work it because I

935
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 8: don't want you to be put at risk because I

936
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 8: love you too much. But uh, you know it's listen,

937
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 8: the mindset here from the UFC is very mind boggling,

938
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 8: you know, not every other organization. I mean, I thought

939
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 8: what Bellatore did was interesting paying guys. You know, the

940
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 8: UFC's got money, and Devor has money to pay guys

941
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 8: postpone things. You know, it's you know, at what risk

942
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 8: he is He really waiting for the president of the

943
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 8: country to just be like, we know, turn off your lights,

944
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 8: shut down, We're good. That seems like what it's gonna

945
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 8: come down to. So forgetting even the gun to my head,

946
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 8: no gun to my head, that fight's gonna happen as

947
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 8: of right now.

948
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm optimistic too. I think Kenflow's idea has merits

949
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 6: if you kind of push everything back and just sort

950
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 6: of push the calendar along. I know you start to

951
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 6: get into some Ramadan territory at some point, but hey,

952
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 6: to your point, Ian Parker, I hate to be too

953
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 6: prop heavy today, but I'm sitting here with a bottle

954
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 6: of don Juleo Blanco and pineapple juice. And as soon

955
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 6: as I get the text from my boss at Candido

956
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 6: that I am not working Saturday night, we are drinking.

957
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 6: I have donuts downstairs. I'm about to go nuts with

958
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 6: this cabin fever. Three kids under nine, Like I'm going crazy.

959
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if if it driving Flow to a

960
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 6: tribal land in Alabama to call fights would be good

961
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 6: for me right now, but I'm I gotta get out

962
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 6: of here. I gotta get an uba, get an uba,

963
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 6: get a fucking uba to Alabama thousand bucks if not

964
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 6: more so in terms of Tyron Woodley and the athletes

965
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 6: and you guys can both speak to this right If

966
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 6: you're Tyron Woodley, Kempflow, what's going through your through your

967
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 6: mind right now? Because you know he's put in a

968
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: hell of a training camp financially and blood, sweat and

969
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 6: tears in Thailand and everything else.

970
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 5: You know, he didn't go to London.

971
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 6: And I have Leon Edwards' Instagram posts that I'm gonna share.

972
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 6: But for these two headlining athletes in particular, what do

973
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 6: you do? If you're Tyron Woodley? I mean, are you

974
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 6: trying to are you trying to salvage this thing? It

975
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: appears as though Tyron come hell or high water really

976
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 6: wants to fight on Saturday night, even if that's putting

977
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 6: him himself in some danger.

978
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, I think if that's the case and he

979
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 7: wants to fight, you know, I I wonder who he

980
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 7: exactly wants to fight. I guess he was turning down

981
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 7: the Gilbert Burns fight, which I guess makes sense. You

982
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 7: know what he's not. You know, GILB Burns isn't a

983
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 7: top five guy at this point. If this fight against

984
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 7: Colby Comington is gonna happen, I mean that would be awesome.

985
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 7: Sign me up. I think that's a fight that makes

986
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 7: sense for a lot of reasons. And if Tyron Woodley's

987
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 7: gonna fight Cold Comington, you want to make sure that

988
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: you have a camp and Kobe Comington doesn't get a

989
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 7: chance to have a full camp or I think a

990
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 7: lot of that favors Tyrant, So I think he's kind

991
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 7: of waiting to see who the highest ranked fighter is

992
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 7: that he could fight on short notice at this point.

993
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 7: And you know, I think Tyron has always been one

994
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 7: of those guys that he's not going to just take

995
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 7: any fight. He wants to take a fight that makes

996
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 7: sense for his career. Yeah.

997
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 6: Here is what Leon Edwards had to say on Instagram.

998
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: Leon underscore Edward's mma. Last night, I went to sleep

999
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 6: still with some hope that UFC London could continue next week.

1000
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 6: I woke up this morning to the news that it

1001
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: won't be. We've been working with the UFC on possible

1002
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 6: solutions to keep the fight alive. Unfortunately, with such a

1003
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 6: short window of time, nothing was viable. And this is

1004
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 6: the rub right here. Myself and my team are all fathers, husbands,

1005
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 6: sons and brothers, and not all of us can leave

1006
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 6: our families right now. I wish we could have found

1007
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 6: a way for the fans. I truly do. I've been

1008
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 6: dreaming of headlining UFC show in my home country since

1009
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 6: I started this sport. This cancelation is truly heartbreaking. I

1010
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 6: have never worked harder and never been more prepared for

1011
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 6: the biggest moment in my career. But I know that

1012
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 6: the whole world is hurting right now, and this is

1013
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 6: bigger than me, This is bigger than sports, and therein

1014
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 6: lies the rub right. Leon Edwards is richly deserving of

1015
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 6: a title fight already, and he had to settle for

1016
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 6: this main event against a former champion, but it was

1017
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 6: at home, in his backyard, in and I don't know,

1018
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 6: I just really feel for all the athletes, but for

1019
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: Leon Edwards in particular, who had to make a hard decision,

1020
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 6: and that decision rested with family and his teammates and

1021
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 6: his coaches and a lot of them just not being

1022
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 6: able to leave the UK.

1023
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 8: Yeah. Look, he made the right call. You know, he's

1024
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 8: the world right now is in a panic. This is

1025
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 8: not just anything normal that's going on right now. For

1026
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 8: him to leave, you know, his country, his family, not

1027
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 8: knowing when he'd get back. I don't blame him. Listen,

1028
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 8: He'll still get a big fight that's not going anywhere,

1029
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 8: you know, his ranking division is not going anywhere. Live

1030
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 8: to fight another day. I think at the end of

1031
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 8: the day, long term, it was the right call because

1032
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 8: if he would have came here with all the travel

1033
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 8: that he wasn't expecting to have to do, with all

1034
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 8: this shit on his mind, with all the distractions that

1035
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 8: weren't originally planned, and then he loses, you know, and

1036
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 8: then he still can't go back catch twenty two. So

1037
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 8: I think between the two, I think he chose the

1038
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 8: right decision right now.

1039
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: Ken Fill.

1040
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 6: Obviously we feel for the guys making twenty five and

1041
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: twenty five right who are hoping to make fifty thousand

1042
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 6: dollars on Saturday night and they've invested maybe fifteen or

1043
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 6: twenty into a training camp. But to Ian's point, right

1044
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 6: at the highest levels of this game, right, for Leon Edwards,

1045
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 6: he spent years since that kamara Ousman lost building to contention,

1046
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 6: he got to be very careful to just, you know,

1047
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 6: make a wayward decision in the wake of a major

1048
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 6: global crisis.

1049
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 7: You know, when you're trying to climb that mountain and

1050
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 7: you're almost there at the peak, you have to be

1051
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 7: very careful where you step. And I think for Leon Edwards,

1052
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 7: he's making the right decision, both help wise and just

1053
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 7: the circumstances around this. I think it's just it's not

1054
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 7: worth it. It's not worth it because at the end

1055
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 7: of the day, yeah, we kind of remember the circumstances

1056
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 7: of what happened, But like we talk about all the time,

1057
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 7: you look back, you look at the record, that's gonna

1058
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 7: be a big L and very few people remember the circumstances.

1059
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 7: They're just gonna see that L. So you know, you're

1060
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 7: trying to preserve your win consistency as much as possible,

1061
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 7: and you know, it's just unfortunate all the way around.

1062
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 7: This fight isn't gonna happen because this was awesome matchmaking here.

1063
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 6: And I know a lot of us have been trying

1064
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 6: to figure out the best way to financially help, whether

1065
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 6: it's helping fighters or cut men. You know, I've heard

1066
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 6: from a lot of different servers and waiters and bartenders

1067
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 6: that are UFC fans and trying to think about the

1068
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 6: best way to financially get involved to really help people

1069
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 6: and put food on people's plates, which I think needs

1070
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 6: to be a big focus. And I don't know, it's

1071
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Speaker 6: just a tough reality. I mean, I can tell you

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Speaker 6: right now, if I go call the UFC fights this Saturday,

1073
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Speaker 6: my wife will have me quarantined from the rest of

1074
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Speaker 6: my family for at least a couple of weeks when

1075
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Speaker 6: I come home, and that's a decision I guess I'm

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Speaker 6: willing to make, at least right now, but certainly holding

1077
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 6: out hope that it's gonna be Don Julio here in

1078
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 6: the not too distant future before we let you guys

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00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 6: fly any anything else for me on this Brazilia show.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Hanato moy Kano obviously made a huge statement

1081
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 6: of what was his UFC lightweight debut, Nikita Krilov against

1082
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 6: Johnny Walker. I know it was a financially very successful

1083
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 6: night for Ian Parker, but Johnny Walker broke up a

1084
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: parlay or two. Brandon Moreno emerging as a flyweight contender,

1085
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 6: Amanda Heboss, I mean, if you're on that Kenny Florian

1086
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: fucking Twitter handle.

1087
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 7: On the hebos ry, the hebos dude she is. She

1088
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 7: looked great, she looked fantastic. I think she's definitely someone

1089
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 7: to watching that division, no doubt about it. But Ian,

1090
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 7: we have to rethink things here with Johnny Walker, man,

1091
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 7: I think not only is he a guy that we

1092
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 7: completely overestimate, I think everybody overrest meed. He looked like

1093
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 7: crap I mean he looked like crap. He was truly exposed.

1094
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 7: I think as a fighter, who you know, if he

1095
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 7: doesn't catch you straight away, he's in big trouble. He

1096
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 7: just did not show a lot of patience, did show

1097
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 7: a lot of skills all the way around. And that's

1098
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 7: why we have to be very careful when we get

1099
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 7: excited about people who finish fight in ten seconds, twenty

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Speaker 7: seconds a minute, because you don't get to see their

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Speaker 7: full spectrum of skills. And I think if you're getting

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Speaker 7: dominated because he got dominated against Nikita Kreeloff, if you're

1103
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 7: getting dominated by someone like Kreeloff and no offensive Kreeloff,

1104
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Speaker 7: because he's a tough out, he's a tough guy. He's

1105
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Speaker 7: moving forward. But to get dominated like that, I mean

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00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 7: people were looking at this guy like he should be

1107
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 7: fighting John Jones next. No, he should not. He shouldn't

1108
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 7: be fighting anywhere near John Jones. He should be fighting

1109
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 7: John Jones maybe his baring partners. Maybe that's about it

1110
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 7: at this point, because we got way too excited, way

1111
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 7: too early about Johnny Walker.

1112
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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, Well I kind of blame you for that because

1113
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 8: you're friends with his coach and you should have said

1114
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 8: something with Farro. Well, listen, you also picked Kevin Lee,

1115
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 8: so that's two of them. But I did not go

1116
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 8: that way with you. But you know, listen with Johnny Walker. Look,

1117
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 8: with Johnny Walker, I thought this would be a bounce

1118
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 8: back just based on this athleticism, his size, and obviously

1119
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 8: with the new camp, and you know, Kreelof really just

1120
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 8: was smart. He wasn't even gonna try and brawl. He

1121
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 8: took him down. I mean, you you know, with Walker,

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00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 8: I think right now he needs to take at least

1123
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 8: I mean, he may be forced to take time off.

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00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 8: I think he needs to cut six months off. I

1125
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 8: think they need to give him someone in, like you know,

1126
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 8: from twelve to seventeen, and he needs to really rethink

1127
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 8: a strategy because to your point, what he has done

1128
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 8: so far great, it got you here. But remember we

1129
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 8: always talk about us that hype train sometimes moved too fast,

1130
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 8: like a man that heboss. What they're doing for her

1131
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 8: is like the perfect competition. How they're bringing her up,

1132
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 8: you know, based on style, based on matchup. You know,

1133
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 8: you got to really look at things that way, because

1134
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 8: when you spoil guys like Johnny Walker could have been

1135
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 8: something really special and he still can.

1136
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Speaker 5: He's young.

1137
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 8: But when you do something, the confidence level mean, you know,

1138
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 8: it just too This happens to too many people too

1139
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 8: early in their career, and a lot don't bounce back.

1140
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 8: So uh yeah, we really we really Uh he really

1141
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 8: fucked up one of my parlays, real bad. But it's

1142
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 8: but it's okay, you know, it's it's okay. I don't

1143
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 8: I don't get mad at fighters for that. It's my

1144
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 8: own fault, but for believing you with his camp, so

1145
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 8: it's fine.

1146
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 7: I blame you, definitely, No, you know, Kevin Lee, Johnny Walker.

1147
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 7: And this is more concerning I guess for Kevin Lee

1148
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 7: who's been around in the USC for a little bit.

1149
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 7: But they have to go right back into skill building phase.

1150
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 7: They should literally just focus. Don't even book a fight

1151
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 7: for the next six months to a year. Just work

1152
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 7: on getting better, work on your weaknesses, get on the ground,

1153
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 7: get submitted a bunch of times, you know, work on

1154
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 7: your wrestling. You know, all those things I think are

1155
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 7: gonna be so important to really salvage their career. Otherwise

1156
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 7: they're gonna be in big trouble, especially someone like Kevin Lee,

1157
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 7: who's a name. Now they're not gonna give him any

1158
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 7: easy fights. He doesn't get any easy easy fights.

1159
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: From here on out.

1160
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 6: Well, we mentioned and Kenny, I don't know if you

1161
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 6: saw his comments that he has intimated that he might

1162
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 6: take a couple years off, right, But he just as

1163
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: we mentioned last week, six time and seven fight, he

1164
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 6: was in these UFC main events, and I think he

1165
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 6: bit off a little more than he could show this

1166
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 6: time around, maybe took the fight too quickly, didn't put

1167
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 6: in the right training camp.

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00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 7: You know.

1169
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 6: I was hoping maybe there would be more of a

1170
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 6: UFCPI nutritional presence down there that wasn't there.

1171
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 5: And you gotta be I mean, you.

1172
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 6: Got to be checking all the boxes when you're in

1173
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 6: a UFC main event. And again, another part of the

1174
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 6: Kevin Lee story is that he still hasn't come out

1175
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 6: the other side after losing his head coach Robert Falliss,

1176
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 6: you know, and Faras certainly is the guy now, and

1177
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: George sant Pierre's been a guy he has leaned on,

1178
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,280
Speaker 6: and Dewey Cooper has been a stabilizing force of sorts.

1179
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 6: But you know, there's still a lot for Kevin Lee

1180
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 6: to work on. He's still in his mid twenties, we'll

1181
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 6: see where he goes from here. All right, boys, So

1182
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 6: on a scale one of ten, we'll get you out

1183
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 6: of here on this not on my script. Are we

1184
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 6: sick of our wives and children right now? Like, thankfully

1185
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 6: I like my family, but this is going to get

1186
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 6: really harry here in a few days. I would think

1187
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 6: just to maintain energy and patience as a parent.

1188
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 7: Issue for me is you know, listen, I love it.

1189
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: I love being at home now, I'm home a lot anyway.

1190
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 7: But for me, if I can't train jiu jitsu, watch out,

1191
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: I'm not a nice person. Yeah, So so that that's

1192
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 7: that's what I'm just ready to explode right now, Like

1193
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 7: I I need to train you. Just I need to

1194
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 7: choke someone. Ian, I'm over here. Let me let me

1195
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 7: choke you a little bit. May a couple of arm bars,

1196
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 7: a couple of leg locks, and that will kind of

1197
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 7: make me feel better.

1198
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 8: It would bro it'd be it'd be an honor because

1199
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 8: the way you feel about jiu jitsu is the way

1200
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 8: I feel about taco bell right now, that before before

1201
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 8: the main car, and I will not be able to

1202
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 8: get potato griller or a state case serrito and a

1203
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 8: crunch trafts to the preme. It's very upsetting to me

1204
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 8: because that's usually my calming food when I'm either down

1205
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 8: or I'm up. So Kenny is if I could eat

1206
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 8: talk about Listen, Kenny, when this whole thing blows over,

1207
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 8: you want to fly me out there? You can fucking

1208
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 8: choke me out all you want, dude. The first time

1209
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 8: I walk into Matt Sarah's, Jim was like, oh, this

1210
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 8: guy's a wrestler, will be really good. I'm like, go okay.

1211
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 8: Sarah's like, let's see what you got. I shoot him

1212
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 8: for a double guillotines me. I didn't even know what

1213
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 8: to do. I was sleeping five minutes in the training.

1214
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 8: So hopefully you're a little bit more hospitable than in Matt.

1215
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 7: So I'll give you that's.

1216
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 8: So good extra cyro cream.

1217
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 6: Thank you, Matts Sarah suffocating force. Thankfully it wasn't him

1218
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 6: ripping a camora. He'll fucking break the yard.

1219
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 5: He don't care.

1220
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 8: You know, he don't care. You know you don't care.

1221
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 6: So Kemp, there's got to be somebody that you've had

1222
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 6: contact with over the last week that you feel like

1223
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 6: if you're exposed and you have the coronavirus.

1224
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 5: Then he does too.

1225
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: I mean you literally, you have nobody that come over

1226
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 6: to the house and get a rolling with that.

1227
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 7: Well, I'm sure I could call somebody to kind of

1228
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 7: come and help me out, go for I have no

1229
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 7: I have no matt space over here. I barely have

1230
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 7: space over here, let alone matts so great in the.

1231
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 5: Back the backyard.

1232
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 8: You, your privileged pussy gets the problem.

1233
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 7: I'm in l a. For Pete's sake.

1234
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 5: You don't have a back millionaire.

1235
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 8: For everybody watching, for everybody watching the show, I will

1236
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 8: I will tweet Kenny's number out shootingim a text. If

1237
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 8: you're in the area and you want to get in

1238
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 8: a roll, Kenny's available, all right.

1239
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 6: Well, Ken Flow famously has run the streets of Dover, Massachusetts,

1240
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 6: doing like six minute miles. So I get an inkling

1241
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 6: that to be a better husband and father, he's probably

1242
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 6: gonna go run some miles for me.

1243
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm making my kids run.

1244
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 6: One of my daughters, I've discovered, is the most natural

1245
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 6: runner I've ever seen. The other one fucking hates my guts.

1246
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 6: And you know what, another two miles tomorrow morning, and

1247
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 6: you know she can.

1248
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, use that snapchat filter. My daughter is still in

1249
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 8: the house trying to figure out where the cat is

1250
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 8: on her head.

1251
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 5: She's right behind you right now, I could see it.

1252
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 8: Is she right? Is she right behind me? Oh yeah,

1253
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 8: she's so mad that I'm out here still?

1254
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 5: All right, George, So let your father go in.

1255
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 6: Great stuff, buddy. We will talk to you, God willing

1256
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 6: next Monday. Stay safe, all right, John, Lady guys, all right, Well,

1257
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 6: if you haven't done so already, we hope you will

1258
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 6: check out the show in video form. As many of

1259
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Speaker 6: you know, we launched a YouTube channel few months go.

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,600
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1262
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Speaker 6: coming on next week. We're trying to take this thing

1263
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Speaker 6: to the next level as we come up on our

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00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 6: five year anniversary next.

1265
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: Moment, which is just crazy. Who is right?

1266
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 6: In the meantime, everybody out there, please, we're all in

1267
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 6: this together. So that's the thesis statement. We're all in

1268
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 6: this together. Stay safe and healthy. As far as may

1269
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 6: Rocky BJJ is concerned, You're closed indefinitely, and you'll update

1270
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 6: people on social media?

1271
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Speaker 5: Yes, I will, indeed, thank you, yes, all right?

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Speaker 6: Thanks to TJ Desanta set that controls my kech on

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Speaker 6: the video side, Ray Longo, Ian Parker for Kent Plum

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Speaker 6: John and thank you for listening, for watching until next week.

1275
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 6: Enjoy that family time. If you are driving, don't text

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Speaker 9: We'll give it to you straight here every Friday on

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Speaker 3: Let's Sports Guard Network's Wagering Week.

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Speaker 1: I'm Royal Oaks. Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we

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Speaker 1: take on a couple of villains to sort out whether

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Speaker 1: bad stuff is also illegal stuff. George Santos want a

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Speaker 1: a crime? And Kanye West made it clear he hates

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Speaker 1: Jews in England, he'd go to jail for that. Here

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Speaker 1: in America, did he commit a hate crime? Listen to

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