1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Top one hundred Players, 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: presented by Bud Light. I'm Bob Papa. As you know, 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: the Giants were revealing the top one hundred players in 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: the history of the franchise. Let's explain and recap how 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: we got to this point. There was a thirteen member 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: independent Blue Ribbon panel that looked over five thousand names 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: that played for the New York Giants in their previous 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: ninety nine years, and we have come to the list 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: of the top one hundred. One of the members that 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: was voting on that list is former Beat reporter, NFL 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: reporter and Hall of Fame voter Gary Myers, and garyott 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: was a fun process to go through, wasn't it. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: I tell you what, when you look back at all 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: the great players who've played for this franchise, narrowing it 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: down to the top one hundred, it was fun. 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: But it was difficult. 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Well, we have two guys on the set with us 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: here today to talk about numbers fifty one through sixty, 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: and they both are on this list, number fifty one 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Otis Anderson and number fifty six Mark Collins. And Otis 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: obviously winning a Super Bowl MVP for the Giants. What 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: did it mean to you when you found out that 23 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: you had made this top one hundred. 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: Well, I was really surprised, you know, being that my 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: history didn't start with the Giants, but most of the 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 4: things I've accomplished has been with the Giants, Super Bowl, 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 4: come By. 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: Player of the Year, things of that nature. So I 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: was excited. 30 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 4: But you get very happy that the Giants said, and 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: always have said, once a Giant, always a Giant, and I. 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: Was part of the family. Mark. 33 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: I got to break the news to you in person. 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: When when you first heard that you were one of 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: the top one hundred players, what was your first thought? 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: I mean a lot. 37 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 5: It still means a lot. You know, you're talking about 38 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 5: the fourth oldest football organization, you know, in the history 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 5: of America. So it means a lot. And I'm still 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: in awe of being on this list. 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Collins takes it at the two the fifteen. 42 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: He's got room. 43 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Colin's toll of thirty color to the forty Colors go 44 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: all the way behind the Cony Collins money touch down. 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: A rookie from Holden State, Mark Collins returns to the 46 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: opening kickoff ninety eight yard Gary. This is a pretty 47 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: amazing list that we have fifty one through sixty, and 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: there's such great names, you know, obviously OJ Anderson and 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Mark Collins and Tom Landry, who a lot of people 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: think of with the hat and they think of him 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: as the great head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but 52 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: was an incredible defensive back for the New York Giants. 53 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he was an All Pro player and 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: with people may not remember, but he was a player 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: coach and he was a defensive coordinator. So he's not 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: only a key member of the defense on the field, 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: but then he's coordinating the defense at the same time. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: And can you imagine, I mean. 59 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Mark, you played the same position as Tom, to do 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: something like. 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 5: That, that would be tough. I mean, because you got your 62 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 5: plan with the guy right next to you and he's 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: called him plays the defense changes on the field, then 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: you go to the sideline you make an adjustment with 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 5: you guy next to us. It'd be kind of a 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: difficult thing to do. But you know, back in those 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 5: days they could do it. I don't think it could 68 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: happen that way now. 69 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: No, it wouldn't go well now because it's just too much, 70 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: too much to go in analytics. 71 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: It's too big to happened. 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Mark was drafted in nineteen eighty six. Otis, You were 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: traded from the Saint Louis Cardinals to the Giants in 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, Is the Giants won their first ever 75 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You had already been a great player in 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: the league when the Giants drafted this guy. What were 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: some of the things that he brought to the table 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: that helped you guys win a championship. 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: Well, Mark was tough, he was smart. You know, you 80 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: could put him in any situation and he would adjust 81 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: to it. Being a rookie, you don't want to give 82 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 4: him a lot to do, but he showed better check 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 4: that he can do a lot of things, and that's 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: why he played. 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: And look at him. I mean he was also for. 86 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Us morning. 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: Smiles. 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Conversely, you're a rookie coming into the league. Joe Morris 89 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: carried a lot of the water with the nineteen eighty 90 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: six Giants and had record setting years in eighty five 91 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: and eighty six. This guy comes in, what was the 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: first thing that came to mind when he found out, Wow, 93 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: we just got Anderson. 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 5: I tell you, Bob o j. When he came to us, 95 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: he brought not just stability, but the patience. Because you're 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 5: talking about a guy all the things he did Saint Louis. 97 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 5: He's an established player in Saint Louis, then comes over 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 5: here to sit behind Joe Morris and wait patiently to 99 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 5: get to where he needed to be. Never complained one 100 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 5: hundred center professional, did the things that the Giant way, 101 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 5: and that's why he's on this list. I mean, he's 102 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: a great friend and that's why he's doing what he's doing, 103 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 5: and it's perfect. 104 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: I remember being traded midway during the season. I went 105 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: from one in five to five and one, which was 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: a big blessing, and just seeing the Giants go out 107 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: to Pasadena and play Denver Broncos and have an opportunity 108 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: by parcels. Toward the end of the game, he called 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: me up. He said, listen, kid, He said, in case 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 4: you never get here again, I'm gonna give you a 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: chance to school. So he called Joe Mars out of 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: the game, sent me in and called a play for 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 4: me to get into the end zone. 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: It was incredible. 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: There go, there's part played back to oj. 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: For being patient. 117 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: You're telling my patients, you know, sitting and waiting a 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: couple of years, but you know, to do what he did, 119 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: like nineteen eighty nine, a few years later and then 120 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP of the year after that, it's amazing. 121 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: And look at Odi Sanders said throw the upper country. 122 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: He looked like Muhammad ali Win popped in with that 123 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 3: zip bar. 124 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Just having an opportunity to play in the Super Bowl. 125 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: It was a it was a dream. 126 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 4: It was something I said, come out of Miami as 127 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: a as a rookie. I said, if I played in 128 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and stayed at Florida, I went MVP. 129 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 3: Well, twelve years later it did happen. 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: I have a question few So in nineteen seventy nine, 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: the Giants drafted Phil seventh, the Cardinals took you one 132 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: spot later. Do you have any indication that the Giants, 133 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: if it hadn't taken Sims, or maybe they were gonna 134 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: take you ahead of Sims. 135 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if I told you MC the story. 136 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: I might have mentioned it to Bob one time. We 137 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: sent around. But I had dinner on a Friday night 138 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: with Ray Perkins. He flew into Miami, took me out 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: to dinner and said, we're drafting seventh in the first 140 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: round and we're picking you. We're having a steak dinner. 141 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: He goes to the Maitro dn and asks what easil? 142 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: They break him an easy. He start designing plays for me, saying, 143 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: this is what we're gonna do with you, you know, 144 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: when we draft you. 145 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking that I'm going to be drafted by 146 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: the Giants. Right. 147 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: So I'm sitting like you say. Three days later, I'm 148 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: in my living room just like we're sitting here, and 149 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: they say on the clock, the New York Giants, and 150 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there with the giant hat under the table, 151 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they say Phil Sims and 152 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: I just kind of like, whoa next on the cardinal 153 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: and they said the cardinal said with the eighth pick 154 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: in the first round out of the University of Miami, 155 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: Oi Ojanison. So I threw the giant hat to my friend. 156 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: He had a baseball cardinal hat which was the same 157 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 4: as the football cardinal. I got to put it all 158 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: jumped up and say, always want to be a cardinal, 159 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: so you never know where you're gonna go. So it 160 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 4: was one of those situations that seven years later they 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: worked out for me. But I remember before I got traded. 162 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: We played each other, like you said, Jim Burton, I 163 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 4: attended Miami. So as soon as the game was over, 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: he comes up to me. He said, how would you 165 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: like to be a Giant? And I said to Jim Bert, 166 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: I called him Virgil. I said, there's no way that 167 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: the Cardinal would trade me to the Giant. Same division, 168 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: and we got to play one more time, so I 169 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 4: know all their secrets, so there's no way they're gonna 170 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: do that. That doesn't make sense. Plus, I'm franchise. I'm 171 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: the number one running back in the Cardinal's history. How 172 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: do you trade me and you trade me to the Giants? Well, 173 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: rest is history, that's his history. 174 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: All right. 175 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: I want to bring up a name that's part of 176 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: this list. He comes in at number sixty. 177 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: Jumbo La Oh, listen this Jumbo. You can talk more 178 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: about it because the officer side of the ball. 179 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: But when Jumbo came to us, I've never seen a 180 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 5: bigger man walk. 181 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: To that door. This dude was big. 182 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 5: I mean, he's big, agile, and he has a mean 183 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 5: streak in him. If he get to it, you guys 184 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 5: just gotta know how to get you. I don't want 185 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 5: to get to it. But Bill parcells you exactly what 186 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 5: it took to get him, get him motivated. 187 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: To do what he's got to do. 188 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 5: A Jumbo, I don't want you to get nervous, because 189 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 5: that's THAT'STP Michigan. 190 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 3: State down there, I spilled off. Bill, Okay, can stop 191 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: Michigan State. I know for what you'll be real nervous. Well, 192 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Jumbo and William Roberts. 193 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 4: This is the NFC Championship game out in San Francisco. 194 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 4: All a few people know this story. I think Hass 195 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: knows it as well. So we're in the huddle and 196 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: we'd just run a play and was a play that's 197 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: supposed to be in between the titles and the forty 198 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: nine of defense had pinched in and Jumbo and William 199 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: got together and they stopped having this this playing. 200 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: So Bill called a play again. 201 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: So I'm in the huddle and I'm facing William and 202 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: Jumbo and they go like, oh, Jay, bounce it outside. 203 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: They slank in. I said you sure. They said, oh no, 204 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 4: they did it. I said, William, yeah, Jumbo, yeah, bounce 205 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 4: it outside. So they call the same play. I bounced 206 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: it outside. They stand outside, William and Jumbo, go down, 207 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: hit No. 208 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 3: One. 209 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: I lose three or four. Y'alls parseal call time out. 210 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: He said, give me twenty four. I go over there 211 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: and he look at me. He said, what are you doing? 212 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: I said, Jumbo, Jombo, you listen to a dumb rookie. 213 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: How long you've been in the lee? I said twelve years. Well, 214 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: I tell you what. Listen to him again. Don't get 215 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 4: on the bus going back to say that. And I 216 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: never listened Jumbo again after that. 217 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of left tackles, you didn't play with him, but 218 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: David Dial is on this list as well. Here's the 219 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: guy that got drafted in the fifth round and the 220 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: guy wants up becoming a starting left tackle for two 221 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: ball teams. As you watched him over the years and 222 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: watched the new era of Giants go on to have 223 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: the success that you guys had. What jumps out about 224 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: him as a player. 225 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: He was just tough. Again. He played with the up 226 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: on his shoulder and he went out. 227 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: He had a mission just watching him and watching what 228 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: the Giants titles have done in the path. He fit 229 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 4: in that mode because he was aggressive and he took 230 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: no stuff and he. 231 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: Just did his job. I saw consistency. 232 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was always there, you know, no matter what 233 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: tough Hartnolls player news assignments. 234 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: He was a versattle guy. Yeah yeah, I bet every 235 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: pure center oh yeah. 236 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: But I love his toughness and his durability and his 237 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 5: stability every day he was there. 238 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: Another name that's on this list that obviously was a 239 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: key for the Giants winning in twenty eleven, Victor Cruz. 240 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Local kid doesn't even get drafted. When I say Victor Cruz, 241 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: what comes to mind to you? 242 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had those three touchdowns in the preseason game 243 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: against the Jets by Victor Cruiser is gonna score sixty 244 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: four yards? 245 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: To tell the play by the cure. 246 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: The kid from Patterson, New Jersey, a free agent out 247 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: of U Mass scores in East Rutherford with a brilliant 248 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: one hand catch. And now the Giants go down to 249 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia and they need a wide receiver and then he 250 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: has that big game and the rest, as they say, 251 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: is history. Manning back to throw zips one left caught 252 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: by Cruise, runs out of a tackle to the forty 253 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: up to midfield, makes another man missed the forty. 254 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: Five down the left sideline. There goes Cruise. 255 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen ten, five touchdown Giants seventy four yards and 256 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: he does the salsa. 257 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 5: The salsa dance is fantastic. A true giant hard competitor 258 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: as well. But he came in a deal we have 259 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 5: to do undrafted, had a great career of the Giants, 260 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: and he knew exactly what to do when he got 261 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: in the game. He made plays up and down the field. 262 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: And late in the season, the game against the Jets, 263 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: you had the ninety nine yard or that won the 264 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: game and got the Giants into the playoffs and they 265 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: went on and won their four Super Bowl that year. 266 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: So it's amazing. 267 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 5: You know, when your opportunity comes is what you do 268 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 5: with and he took full advantage of it. And I 269 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: think that's awesome, and that's that's a lesson. You never 270 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 5: know when your time is going to come because we 271 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: all have an expission date, which in this league you're. 272 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: On the clock. 273 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 4: Here's a guy, Victor Cruz, who made the best of it. 274 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: But see, I know Victor a whole different way than 275 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: you guys know. I watched Victor play little league football. 276 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: He played in Pedterson. His coach was one of my 277 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: fret brothers, Benji Wibberley and Victor at a young age 278 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: always wanted to play for the Giants because he was 279 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: a local boy and he didn't want to go too 280 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: far from home, which he didn't go too from home 281 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 4: for college. And to be able to fulfill your dream 282 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 4: to play for the team that you follow when you 283 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: was a little kid, just to have that dream come true. 284 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 4: We all dream of, you know, playing professional football, and 285 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 4: you just don't know where and when that's gonna happen. 286 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 4: But he was one of the players again, one of 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: those giant players that earned their respect of everybody by 288 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: working hard. And as you said, he created that sassa 289 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: dance and everybody went wild for it. And that's incredible, 290 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: and that's what he did. 291 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: That's cruise. 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: But it spits up Joefer's down. 293 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: Wow, he just kept his feet churning. 294 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: Okay, number one thousand ears than me, all right. 295 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: So when you're playing for the Cardinals and you're playing 296 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: against the Giants in your first couple of years, the 297 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: Giants weren't very good, right, And my remembrances as a 298 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: kid for the Giants was basically their offense was number 299 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: fifty three on our list because I could still hear 300 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: the PA announcer in Giants Stadium, Bob Shepherd saying, fourth 301 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: and thirty, Jennings to punt. 302 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. Bob. 303 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about David Jennings, because the most prolific punter 304 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: in Giants history. An incredible athlete, but a guy that 305 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: was a weapon. 306 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a game changer. 307 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: And you know Jenny's being able to change the field 308 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: direction and gave you that advantage. 309 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: He was incredible. 310 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 4: I mean his punt in his inside to twenty was 311 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 4: just incredible. If you needed to pin the team down 312 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 4: and give your defense a chance, they put it right there. 313 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 314 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 5: Whatever, especially on defense. Whatever, you have a punter like 315 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 5: Dave Jenny's or Shan Lindetta that can give you a 316 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 5: fifty yard swing for the fy yard swing for a 317 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 5: defense a guy, we love it. 318 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 319 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Do you know what you guys might not be aware 320 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: of this one of the biggest impacts that Dave had 321 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: on the NFL. Now, you're right, he was amazing inside 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: the twenty, but when he would look at the punting averages, 323 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: there was no such thing as net punts in those days, 324 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: so guys would kick it from their own from midfield, 325 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: kick it into the end zone, you have credit for 326 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: a fifty yard punt, and they'd be at the top 327 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: of the list. 328 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: Dave would go. 329 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: Inside the twenty and Bob, I'm sure you know this, 330 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: he'd go inside to twenty and he'd have a thirty 331 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: seven yard punt, but he'd pinned the team that's thirteen 332 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: yard line. So Dave started this campaign riding to the 333 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: league that they has to be a differentiation between gross 334 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: punting and the net yardage, because the yardage obviously was 335 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: more important. If you're pinning a team inside the ten, 336 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: it's more important than kicking it fifty yards into the 337 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: end zone and then start their twenty. So it's because 338 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: of Dave Jennings that now you see the punters listed 339 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: both ways, with gross and net. 340 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: How about Steve Owen, who's on this list fifty fourth overall. 341 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: You knows, the guy that played for the Giants from 342 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: the very beginning nineteen twenty six. He's a Hall of Famer. 343 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: You know, this is in an era where guys played 344 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: multiple ways. They're on offense and defense. But one of 345 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: the great Giants and one of the great players in 346 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: NFL history. 347 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Bob. He was a key part of 348 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: the giants first championship team. I think it was twenty seven. Yeah, So, 349 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: I mean Steve was a great player and then obviously 350 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: went on to a great coaching career with the Giants. 351 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: Another one is Ward Cuff, who helped the Giants win 352 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: a championship in the thirties. Again, another player that extremely versatile. 353 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Wore number fourteen and Wellington Mara had said at the 354 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: time that no one would ever wear fourteen again. And 355 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: when the Giants acquired Why Tail, they dusted fourteen off 356 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: and they gave it to him. 357 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 2: And now nobody's worn fourteen since ya right, right, So 358 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 2: I guess Ward Cuff and his family can take pride 359 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: in the fact that his numbers retired by the Giants, 360 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: and he also played on a championship team, so he 361 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: was a great player. 362 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: And Ray wy Tech also makes this list, and Ray 363 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: finishes at number fifty eight on the list. But it 364 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of speaks to the depth of the history when 365 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: you think about, you know, all Pros Pro Bowls Hall 366 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: of Fame players that played in the early years of 367 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: the NFL that are recognized by the Hall of Fame. 368 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Ray was one of those guys played 369 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: in that fifty eight championship game and went on to 370 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: have a really good coaching career as well, if I 371 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: remember correctly, he went with Lombardi to Green Bay and 372 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 2: was your offensive line coach on the first two Super 373 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: Bowl teams. 374 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Guys, obviously you know what it's like when Giants Stadium 375 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: would rock. What did you feel in those big game 376 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: moments as you came through that tunnel or as you 377 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: guys scored a touchdown or whatever, because it had a 378 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: different sound, didn't it? 379 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: It did? 380 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: When you're talking about sense of pride and feel like 381 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: you're doing it for a worthwhile cause is when you 382 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: have all of those fans just screaming and yelling, and 383 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: when you're talking about a drilling and just really building 384 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: up and just running wild inside of your body. All 385 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 4: you want to do is make sure everybody's pleased and 386 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: that when they come out of the game, we have 387 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: done what we supposed to do, which is win. 388 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: What about for you, Mark? 389 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 5: I think the best part, especially when playing at home, 390 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 5: is that seven seconds of introductions when you come out 391 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 5: of the tunnel, you run out there and the crowds 392 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 5: with you. You feel it. It takes you to another level. 393 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: It's huge, and the old. 394 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: Giant Stadium was fantastic. If I played for three other teams, 395 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 5: there's nothing like a giant crowd, nothing, so it's illegrifying. 396 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 5: I remember myself. I want to speak for you, Otis. 397 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 5: I would go till get with the fans after the game. Really, 398 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we go tail getting, have a couple of coals. 399 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: We just kick it right now. 400 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 5: Now the league has changed obviously since you can't do 401 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 5: that now, but football is the best thing going right now. 402 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 5: Number one, number two. There's nothing like the New York 403 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: Giants fans. I still get fan mail, and I've been 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 5: retired for twenty five twenty seven years like that, still 405 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: get tons of Giant fan mail. I read them a 406 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 5: sign us center back. They know their history, they know 407 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 5: their players, they knew their announcers. They know everything about you, 408 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 5: and I think it's fantastic. 409 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Speaking of history. Once a giant, always a giant. Obviously, 410 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: both of you played when mister Wellington Marra was very involved. 411 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Your remembrances of him, and maybe a story that comes 412 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: to mind when you think of mister Marra. 413 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: Well, I know when I first got there, he greeted 414 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 4: me and said welcome. I used to watch him and 415 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 4: he would just circle the field and stay and watch practice. 416 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: And after every game, when lose a draw. 417 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 4: He would come through the locker room and shake everybody's hands. 418 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 4: To me that that was something that I didn't know 419 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: even exists in management, that that owner could be that 420 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: close to the players, because you always seem like they 421 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: were isolated away from the players because you know, your business, it. 422 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: Was a business. 423 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: But for the marriage, it's always been a family. 424 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean yeah, and you guys were part of 425 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: the part of the family. And that's what he gave us. 426 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 4: He gave us that sense of family and pride that 427 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 4: when you put on that giant jersey, you knew what 428 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: you were playing for. You were playing for that family, 429 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: the mayor of family that made football what it was 430 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 4: and that giants. 431 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 5: I remember the same as oldest said, and now I'm 432 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 5: a rookie in eighty six and I marveled how he 433 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 5: would come up with that fisherman's hat. Yeah, and he'll 434 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: walk around the practice facility while we practice, and at 435 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 5: every game he would shake your hand. 436 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, good game, Mark, and he knew your name, Yeah 437 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: knew he knew you. That was classic to me. 438 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, as as a member of the meeting 439 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: I first started covering the Giants, I was twenty four 440 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: years old and I was a Giant fan as a kid. Now, 441 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: as soon as you start doing what I did for 442 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: a living, you're not a fan anymore. 443 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: You're camping. 444 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 2: But meeting him for the first time was really and honor. 445 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: And the thing that always impressed me about him is 446 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: how open and honest he was. He didn't meet with 447 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: the media on a regular basis, but when you wanted 448 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: to talk to him and you had something important to ask, 449 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 2: he always made time and his words carried such impact 450 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: because he didn't speak every day or he didn't have 451 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: twice a week radio show like Jerry Jones doesn't Dallas. 452 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: So you talk to Wellington Marraw, you knew what he 453 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: had to say. The message he was going to give 454 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: you was going to be really meaningful, and he gets 455 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: no matter what you wrote, whether it was negative or positive, 456 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: he treated you the same way, and that was with 457 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: respect and that's all you can ever ask. 458 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 459 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: One of the coolest things when I was a student 460 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: for him doing the basketball games, mister Mara would come 461 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: with his son John, and the rose Hill Gym is 462 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: this old gem, and the radio position was up there 463 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: and they Fordham would have a chair for him and 464 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: John sit up there and he would always come on 465 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: as the halftime guest. It was big for us as 466 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: college kids, and mister Mara would being a Fordham alone, 467 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: would always come on. And then you know, years later, 468 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: as I started doing the pre and the post game, 469 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I always remember m leaning against the wall that led 470 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: to the trainer's room during the media avail at lunchtime, 471 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: and he would just observe. 472 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: It would just. 473 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: He'd lean on that wall and he would just observe 474 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: to see how the players were interacting with the media, 475 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: if there were any firestorms going on, to see how 476 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: guys were handling stuff. And then he wouldn't say much 477 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: and then he'd slide on off and okay, business as usual. 478 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: Guys. 479 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: This has been a lot of fun talking about, not 480 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: only this list, having both of you as a part 481 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: of this list. And I guess with this list and 482 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: the top one hundred and the one hundredth season of 483 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, Once a Giant, Always a Giant 484 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: must mean even more to you right now. 485 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: Well, it does it does well. 486 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 5: I want to be remembered by how I played and 487 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: winning championships on my car. It sits on the background 488 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: license plates two time champ New York Giants. 489 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Nice. 490 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 5: Oh I'm in Kansas. I bleed Giant blue. Yeah, that's me. 491 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 5: Everything after that is icing on the cake. Really, and 492 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: this is to me the sweetest iceing I've ever received 493 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: so far, and I'm gonna embellish it well. 494 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm like you, man, I have seen my career life 495 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 4: just take a total sixty degree turn based on where 496 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 4: I started the where I end up at. 497 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 3: The jazz that embraced me. 498 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: The fans and the whole organization have brought me into 499 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 4: that family. Probably with the best thing ever happened to 500 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 4: me is having an opportunity to be a part of 501 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: Giant history, be a part of the Giants family, and 502 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: you feel once a Giant, always a Giant. 503 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: Is such a true, true feeling. Guys. 504 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: It was fun taking a trip down memory lane looking 505 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: at numbers fifty one through sixty and it's a special 506 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: year in the history of the Giants, So for Gary 507 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Myers and our entire crew. Bob Papa, thanks for joining 508 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: us for this edition of Giants, the top one hundred 509 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: players presented by bud Light