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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off.

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Speaker 1: Now we've got two main stories today we're going to

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Speaker 1: be bouncing in and out of. Obviously, the ongoing trial

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Speaker 1: in New York City of Donald Trump. It is like

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Speaker 1: an episode of the Twilight Zone or something. You've got

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Speaker 1: the Republican nominee, de facto nominee for president, who has

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Speaker 1: already been president for four years, facing one of four

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Speaker 1: felony indictments, any one of which, if he was convicted,

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Speaker 1: could make him spend the rest of his life theoretically

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Speaker 1: in prison. This whole thing is nuts, and Clay pointed

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Speaker 1: out there's an op ed in the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll dive into some of that. Pretty clear the

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Speaker 1: person doesn't seem to really be a Trumper, but just

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Speaker 1: says the Alvin Bragg indictment is farcical but deeply unfunny.

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Speaker 1: Rights It's absurd and actually pretty fright. Makes you think,

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Speaker 1: as a New Yorker, how could you get a fair

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Speaker 1: trial if Alvin Bragg is overseeing the Manhattan District Attorney's office.

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Speaker 1: What if you were charged with a serious crime and

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Speaker 1: you were innocent, would you be able to get a

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Speaker 1: fair trial in New York? We'll dive into some of that.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to return, though Clay for a moment, to

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Speaker 1: the campus situation here. I will say, I wish there

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Speaker 1: was a way to look and see it with the

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Speaker 1: correlation between the activists on campus, who are you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of old enough, right, I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: look at the ages here because coming back, but the

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Speaker 1: activists on campus now and the people that are doing

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Speaker 1: this stuff and who was really fired up about BLM,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think that there is ideologically and

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Speaker 1: this tells you a lot on the left, the same

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Speaker 1: way that putting pronouns in your bio and being a

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Speaker 1: climate change catastrophist, Oh my gosh, climate change, We're all

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Speaker 1: gonna die. That's kind of fallen into the back ground.

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Speaker 1: It's always there, but following the background as an issue

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Speaker 1: right now, there's about one hundred percent crossover. Right if

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Speaker 1: you put pronouns in your bio, you also believe in

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Speaker 1: climate change. I think if you are a Palestinian or

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Speaker 1: a pro Palestinian in the tents out on the square

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Speaker 1: shouting abuse at your fellow students who are Jewish. If

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Speaker 1: you're that, you're also really into BLM. You know, you're

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Speaker 1: also chanting Black Lives matter. Depending on there's a near

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Speaker 1: perfect ideological crossover, I think, and we should ask why

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Speaker 1: that is. I mean, I would answer the question simply

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Speaker 1: as these people want to tear down Western civilization and

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Speaker 1: they're just wrong about everything. But speaking of tearing things down,

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Speaker 1: the NYPD made arrests and tore down the tents at

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Speaker 1: Columbia University yesterday. This is cut five and this is

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Speaker 1: how it sounded, and you get the you get you

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Speaker 1: get the idea of pandemonium. They're screaming free Palestine. And

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Speaker 1: I always want to know, first of all, you know,

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Speaker 1: they never stop to think like the West Bank isn't

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Speaker 1: under under a military invasion right now? You know. You know,

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Speaker 1: Gaza decided that they were gonna support an entity that

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Speaker 1: did something that brought about a response and their consequences.

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Speaker 1: You know, elections have consequences, Clay terror attacks have consequences

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Speaker 1: as well. But these kids, like, what what issue? What

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Speaker 1: would it take for you when you were in college

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Speaker 1: to go camp out them? First of all, that to

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Speaker 1: shout abuse and threats at fellow classmates just because of

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Speaker 1: who they are, right, people are Jewish, they that that

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Speaker 1: is who they are, and then to live intense and

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Speaker 1: then to scream and act like you're the victim when

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Speaker 1: the police finally show up, after you've gotten one hundred

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Speaker 1: warnings that this is what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: This is really interesting because I think it goes to

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Speaker 2: the s. First of all, when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: I went to GW George Washington University.

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Speaker 1: I would say that GW.

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Speaker 2: Was in the top five or ten percent most politically

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Speaker 2: go to college in Washington, d C. You probably are

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Speaker 2: more attuned to politics than your average college kid would be.

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Speaker 2: We had very vibrant GW Republican and GW Democrat student

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Speaker 2: groups on campus. Nobody was protesting, though, and the Arab

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Speaker 2: kids on GW's campus at the time were mostly rich

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Speaker 2: And everybody seemed at the time maybe I'm totally crazy

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Speaker 2: but GW had the team looked up like a thirty

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Speaker 2: or forty percent Jewish population.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but where were you? You were out of school

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Speaker 1: in the months afterwards, where there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: so this isn't it's not that different. I think a

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Speaker 1: couple things, Clay, we see it a lot. We didn't

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Speaker 1: have we didn't have a streaming video zones. Everything now

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Speaker 1: is performance art on these college campuses for these kids,

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Speaker 1: you know, these young adults. So you're seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: more of it than you would have and and so

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Speaker 1: I think that encourages it too, right, And this is

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Speaker 1: certainly to have occupy Wall Street. They were all yelling

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Speaker 1: down with capitalism while they were live streaming from their

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Speaker 1: laptops made with virtual slave labor in China, right, know

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Speaker 1: that that was the way they were doing it.

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Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's crazy to me about this iteration

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Speaker 2: of student protests, so there weren't Again that I mentioned

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Speaker 2: the University of Missouri campus protests that started BLM related.

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Speaker 2: That was the first time I saw it on like

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Speaker 2: an SEC campus. But what's interesting is Buck, you mentioned

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Speaker 2: that your dad was at Columbia Business School in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Watch he had a view of the main area from

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Speaker 1: He said, cops went in mounted patrol with batons and

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Speaker 2: So the sixty eight era protests of Vietnam make logical

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Speaker 2: sense that college kids would be involved because they had

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Speaker 2: the danger of potentially being sent in a draft to

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Speaker 2: go fight in jungles of Vietnam. So it makes sense

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Speaker 2: to me that a kid who is of age at

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Speaker 2: that time would feel a direct connection to the Vietnam

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Speaker 2: protest you mentioned yesterday. I think what percentage of any

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Speaker 2: of the kids that are protesting now have ever been

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Speaker 2: to the Middle East, ever considered going to Israel, ever

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Speaker 2: spent any time at all in the Middle East. A

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Speaker 2: tiny percentage of them. This doesn't really impact their life,

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Speaker 2: So it feels to me, by and large, like a

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Speaker 2: social contagion brought on by the power of social media

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Speaker 1: Well, also, we've rightly established that in this country the

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Speaker 1: primary impulse or the primary thought process behind these camp

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Speaker 1: you know, these anti Jewish, anti Israeli. In fact, they're

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Speaker 1: even saying anti Zionism. That's just meant to be a facade.

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Speaker 1: It's a euphemism for their anti Jewishness. Right, it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: we who are you really upset set out here? Why

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Speaker 1: don't you just say it? But with all that going on,

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Speaker 1: and I do think the racial component of this is big,

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Speaker 1: would you also have clay is for the left in

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Speaker 1: this country? This is the Israel Palestine issue is turned

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Speaker 1: into a your cause can be tied into this, right

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Speaker 1: if you're a racial justice person, and here that's the

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Speaker 1: primary in the Middle East, it's more of a religious

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Speaker 1: and you know, historical. But if you're a racial justice person,

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Speaker 1: it's white people against non white people. Israelis again, even

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Speaker 1: though we know and I always just say it because

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Speaker 1: I don't want someone to write in like, but Israelis

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Speaker 1: are you know, Semitic and their Ethiopian Jews, And there's

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Speaker 1: all this I know, and there's a million Arabs living

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Speaker 1: this is notable, I think, with full rights and peaceably

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Speaker 1: but you have a million Arab including some Arab Christians,

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Speaker 1: who live peaceably inside of Israel. But okay, but you

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Speaker 1: can pick the racial issue if if that's what you

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Speaker 1: want to focus on. You can pick the religious issue.

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Speaker 1: So the Jewish Muslim and I think that when you

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Speaker 1: see some of the protesters the you know, some of

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Speaker 1: the protesters of Islamic heritage view it through that lens.

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Speaker 1: Primarily you're seeing a lot of black students protesting on campus.

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Speaker 1: I mean you see this from the videos, and I

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Speaker 1: the religious lens. And then you just have some of

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Speaker 1: the lunatic left wing Marxist kids who view it through

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Speaker 1: the oppressive colonial power or you know, capitalist power of

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Speaker 1: America influencing mid these FORIGN policies. So you see what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like, yeah, whoever shows up at the anti

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Speaker 1: Israel protests, they get to pick their version of left

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Speaker 1: wing lunacy that makes them happy, right, It's an issue

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Speaker 1: that is very broad in that sense.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think you talked about it. Remember they

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Speaker 2: tried to turn the Chicago guy who got shot into

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Speaker 2: and then the video came out and that story kind

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Speaker 2: The reason why I'm skeptic for twenty twenty four. The

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Speaker 2: reason why I'm skeptical is I think the larger puppet

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Speaker 2: masters of the Democrat Party recognize that this is actually

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Speaker 2: not helpful electorally. Whereas BLM theoretically could be.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I would say this Clay if I could,

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Speaker 1: if I were still in New York, because they don't

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Speaker 1: I am. If I were still in New York, I

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Speaker 1: it's kind of cleared out, but I'm sure there's still

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what that. It's not like

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Speaker 1: a live stream of it that I can find right now,

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Speaker 1: But if I could find these students, and why you

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Speaker 1: where was this. NYU just had one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: anti war protesters arrested. Columbia has had all in person classes.

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Speaker 1: Cancer they're done.

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Speaker 2: That's what we said off the top, like they're done

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Speaker 2: with in person classes.

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Speaker 1: Overby seven thousand students. So let me just say, Clay,

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Speaker 1: this isn't going to make these protesters go away. I

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Speaker 1: know this area. It's up near like Morningside Heights on

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Speaker 1: the kind of upper West Side. They don't live on

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Speaker 1: campus primarily, they live in apartments off of campus, so

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Speaker 1: they've all basically got apartments till the end of May.

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Speaker 1: Start with that, Okay, it's they're all going to have

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Speaker 1: their housing. A lot of them have their housing, and

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Speaker 1: you know, welcome to New York. They're going to be there.

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Speaker 1: So this agitation is not stopping. It's also beautiful right

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Speaker 1: now in New York City. We're joking around if they

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Speaker 1: were doing occupy University of Michigan in January, I'd have

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Speaker 1: a little more you know, out on the quad intense.

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Speaker 1: I'd have a little more like, Wow, these guys are

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Speaker 1: really committed. It's beautiful weather. I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: if I were to walk around, and I know I

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Speaker 1: am surmising here and I can't prove this yet because

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Speaker 1: I'm in Miami, and you know, Florida is a sane

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Speaker 1: If I were to ask, and what do you think

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Speaker 1: about this? These different students, Hey, look, would you just

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Speaker 1: all on skin color. The history of the Jewish people

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Speaker 1: with whom they consider to be white. Remember this, the

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Speaker 1: left considers them to be white. The history of the

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Speaker 1: Jewish people would seem to be, on its face, a

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Speaker 1: refutation of the core belief of the left, which is

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Speaker 1: that the only people that face true discrimination are non white,

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Speaker 1: that white people. In fact, the left has claimed for years,

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Speaker 1: you cannot be racist against white people because racism requires

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Speaker 1: privilege and power in society. That means that effectively, it

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Speaker 1: is not possible for you know, white people are always

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Speaker 1: in this role of well, this is crazy because as

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Speaker 1: you point out the history of the Jewish people, and

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Speaker 1: not just the two thousand plus year history, but the

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Speaker 1: last hundred and you know, do the math on it,

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Speaker 1: the last hundred or so years, one hundred and twenty years.

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Speaker 2: It was only seventy five years ago that we had

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Speaker 2: actual concentration camps where millions of Jews were being put

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Speaker 2: to death because they were Jewish. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: why it's such a fundamentally broken worldview in living memory,

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Speaker 2: we can point to it being totally wrong. And yet

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Speaker 2: this is why my belief has to be and this

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Speaker 2: is when we had this conversation the first hour. Ultimately,

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Speaker 2: I believe that logic triumphs and I just feel like

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Speaker 2: this is so crazy. This idea that Jews are oppressors

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Speaker 2: and colonizers is so freaking and I have to be

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Speaker 2: careful not to curse because we're not allowed to. It's

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Speaker 2: so freaking ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But can I can I give you a can I

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Speaker 1: give you a a little bit of a sad moment here?

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Speaker 1: You know again you're logic and think that yeah, as

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Speaker 1: a person of high IQ, we can get tho, we

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Speaker 1: can get a womp womp sound out here, Clay. The

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Speaker 1: Democrats during the pandemic in twenty twenty embraced the just

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Speaker 1: absolutely preposterous lie that cops are murdering black men without consequence,

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Speaker 1: systematically and frequently across the country. And that was the

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Speaker 1: underlying lie of BLM. Cops murder black men and nothing happens.

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Speaker 1: So the first of the guy, guy who was even

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Speaker 1: the proximity of George Floyd just got and and there's

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Speaker 1: a whole conversation we had about what did George Floyd

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Speaker 1: really die of? We could talk about that another time.

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Speaker 1: But you know, the guy who's in the proximity just

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Speaker 1: got sentenced to prison. So the notion that it was

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Speaker 1: all a lie, they haven't walked away from it at all.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think they viewed it as entirely a

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Speaker 1: successful op. I think they thought the opera. I think

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Speaker 1: they thought Operations Saint George Floyd and BLM two point

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Speaker 1: zero rooted in a lie, delivered the presidency in part

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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true. That here's the problem. BLM was beneficial,

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Speaker 2: they think. I really don't see how this crazy anti

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Speaker 2: Israel protest is beneficial to the Democrat Party. I think

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Speaker 2: it might actually cost them the election, which makes me wonder.

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Speaker 2: You know, once you turn the crazy, once you let

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Speaker 2: crazy people rule you, it's hard to manage crazy people,

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Speaker 2: and the crazy kind of seems out of control right now.

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Speaker 2: How do you put the crazy back into the corral

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Speaker 2: where the crazy is beneficial to you? It's like the uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, the cattle Wrestling. One of the best Western

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Speaker 2: movies of all time, actually a mini series, Lonesome dub

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Speaker 2: One of the great all time Western novels by Larry Mingmrchry.

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Speaker 1: It's all well and.

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Speaker 2: Good when you've got the herd moving in the direction

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Speaker 2: you want them to go. But when the herd breaks free,

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Speaker 2: things fall apart in a hurry. It feels to me

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Speaker 2: like the Democrat herd, this horde of protesters that they

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Speaker 2: have been able to direct. Oh, you're the white man's

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Speaker 2: the problem. Let's go burn down a police precinct. Black

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Speaker 2: people are being murdered indiscriminately. What happens when that turns

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Speaker 2: on itself? Because you got some people who were in

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Speaker 2: the bom protest that are now walking past Columbia and

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Speaker 2: they're Jewish, and they're like, wait a minute, these people

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Speaker 2: we had to shut down Columbia University.

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Speaker 1: These people are crazy telling you. I was. I was

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Speaker 1: at a passover with conservative Jews last night and we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this issue, and I was, you know, reading

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Speaker 1: for I don't know, I don't know. Remember I learned

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Speaker 1: a little bit of the Hebrew, but I forget. But

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Speaker 1: I was reading from the books and doing all the stuff,

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Speaker 1: and we talked about this afterwards. The left wing Jews

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Speaker 1: as much as left wing Jews, I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 1: we are. The conservative Jews have already known that. You know,

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Speaker 1: they the Hollywood, the Jewish community.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say, like that's sort an easy way to

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Speaker 2: like describe, like a left wing Jew would be like

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Speaker 2: a Hollywood Jew.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the left wing secular. I mean they're sort

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Speaker 1: of culturally and I you know, from an identity perspective, Jewish,

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Speaker 1: they tend not to be very religious. The religious Jews,

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Speaker 1: the conservative Jews politically and religiously, they're already on team

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Speaker 1: Reality here. The left wing Jews. I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 1: even with all this crazy stuff on campus, they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna vote for Donald Trump. And that's they're just they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna do it. But will they not show up

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Speaker 1: or will they vote rfk Junior. I think I think

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Speaker 1: they're still gonna vote for Joe Biden. I'm just you know,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna say, oh, he doesn't have a choice, but

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Speaker 1: he's but he's good on the choice issue, he's good

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Speaker 1: on abortion, and he's you know, he's not He pretends

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Speaker 1: to be a religious Catholic, but he's not really. He's

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Speaker 1: actually a secular, a secular Marxist fraud. And you know

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Speaker 1: they're gonna. I'm telling this is my fear. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't see the The Jews who

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Speaker 1: see reality are reality, you know. In terms of this election,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a long time. Crafts of the world are

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Speaker 1: looking around. He's a billionaire, ostensibly a man who has

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Speaker 1: supported BLM. I think some of them are looking around

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Speaker 1: and saying, Holy hell, we've unleashed the furies here.

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Speaker 2: This craziness is too much for me. I could be

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Speaker 2: wrong again. I tend to be an optimist and tend

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Speaker 2: to be rational in the way that I analyze things,

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Speaker 2: and we certainly live in an irrational era.

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Speaker 1: If Jewish people vote.

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Speaker 2: For Democrats, I think any Jewish person who votes for

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Speaker 2: Democrats is crazy in twenty twenty four, I really do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just based on what you're seeing, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: you know. Making sense of the stock market the machinations

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Speaker 1: Top of the next hour, we'll dive into this New

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Speaker 1: York Times editorial. Yes, I said New York Times in

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Speaker 1: the editorial.

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Speaker 2: Page, absolutely savaging the case that's been brought by Alvin

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Speaker 2: brag against Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's really well written.

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Speaker 2: I'm stunned, frankly that The New York Times is sharing it.

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Speaker 2: But we'll break that down for you. Give the latest reminder.

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Speaker 2: Anny McCarthy's going to join us halfway through the third

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Speaker 2: hour to give you the latest analysis from a legal

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Speaker 2: perspective as a former prosecutor in New York for what

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Speaker 2: he is seeing there. But let's go with a couple

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Speaker 2: of your calls here, Joe in Big Bend, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, great show. Just as far as a little

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Speaker 3: comment on the crazies. Democrat Party needs the crazies because

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Speaker 3: they need somebody to fulfill the lawlessness the quote unquote

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Speaker 3: peaceful mostly peaceful protests. And let's take Wisconsin for example.

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Speaker 3: We now have a liberal Supreme Court that's going to

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Speaker 3: grant every wish list from ballot dropboxes to I mean,

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Speaker 3: you name it, probably try and get away from voter ID.

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Speaker 3: They need somebody to carry out they're wishless because they

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Speaker 3: can't win on their message.

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Speaker 2: I get that argument. I think the problem is that

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Speaker 2: I would point to BLM was able to coalesce all

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Speaker 2: of the identity politics contingents, and they even had Remember,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about this, Donald Trump kind of bending

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Speaker 2: the knee to a large extent to the BLM protest

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Speaker 2: because of the fear about what power they had politically

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Speaker 2: to wield. I don't know that it mobilizes in a

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Speaker 2: good way the same coalition in twenty twenty four, which

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Speaker 2: is why I wonder if they're going to try to

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Speaker 2: pivot off of the Israel situation the anti Israel protest

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Speaker 2: to find a new vehicle for BLM. They tried it

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Speaker 2: a little bit in Chicago. It didn't take because the

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Speaker 2: guy fired eleven times. But can they find someone new

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Speaker 2: that they believe is a victim that they can allege

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Speaker 2: us all about racism. They did it in sixteen, they'll

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Speaker 2: did it in twenty. I think they'll try to do

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Speaker 2: it again in twenty four. Jim and Seal Beach, California.

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Speaker 4: Quick, I think it's time to call I think it's

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Speaker 4: time to call these people out. I wish more of

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Speaker 4: them would do it. There's a well known talk show

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Speaker 4: host on another conservative station, and that's been my opinion

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Speaker 4: that Hamas and Palestinians won in the same There's plenty

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Speaker 4: of evidence now to show that the majority of Palestinians

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Speaker 4: voting Hamas in from the day the kids are born,

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Speaker 4: they completely indoctrinate the young children, Palestinian children to hate Israel.

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Speaker 4: And now this has just been more evident by what's

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Speaker 4: going on in the colleges. The only other thing, real

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Speaker 4: quick is Donald Trump. You said it on your show earlier,

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Speaker 4: the suburban women.

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Speaker 1: He has not.

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Speaker 4: Got that group, and it's huge. And if the Republicans

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Speaker 4: just damned what's around this abortion issue, they're gonna they're

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Speaker 4: gonna have trouble again. They're gonna have trouble. They need

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Speaker 4: to deal with it. And it can't be just a'll

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Speaker 4: leave it up to the states. It's gotta be a

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Speaker 4: little bit more spelled out because if they don't, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna get hurt by it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that to build on his point, there

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Speaker 2: was a big poll out and I flagged it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we talked about it.

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Speaker 2: Suburban women the things that they care about the most

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Speaker 2: four percent set Inflation was the thing that they cared

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Speaker 2: about the most. Thirty nine percent set. Abortion was the

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Speaker 2: thing that they cared about the most off the charts

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Speaker 2: compared to anything else. It's staggering. But they're going to

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Speaker 2: fear monger on this issue. Democrats are because I think

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Speaker 2: it's pretty much the only thing they have. I don't

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Speaker 2: think there's any doubt about it at all. We come

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Speaker 2: back the latest on the Trump trial.

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Speaker 1: We'll discuss