1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Z is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Today is Thursday, February first, twenty twenty four, and we 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: are eighty four days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Welcome in to the Draft Show presented by Miller Lyte Taste. 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: You can depend on and you can depend on us to. 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: Investigate and educate here on a big week for the 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: NFL Draft process. Senior Bowl practices conclude today, the actual 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: game on Saturday. Shrine Bowl practices are in the review 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: mirror in the actual game. The Shrine Bowl takes place 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: tonight at seven o'clock Central Time inside Fort Center at 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: the Star in Firstco. We've got Zach Walchuk, Nick Harris, 14 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Iusha Morris, and Brian brought us on. Kyle Yeoman's how's 15 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: everybody doing? Nick, you had an early flight this morning, 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 2: got back in in time. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: Me and Scott Purcell from a little down the way. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 5: We made our way in from Mobile this morning, five 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 5: twenty five am. Flight Ready to rock. 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 6: Let's get it. 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: That's the type of draft process, dedication. 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, that I admire. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 7: We were all very jealous and you're getting to be 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 7: at those practices and get to get a close and 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 7: personal look at some of these guys. Man, I'm sure 27 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 7: it was a blast out there and Mobile, but we 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 7: appreciate your dedication, hard work to be here right now. 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 30 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, me too, Me too, Zech No, it was great. 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 5: It was my first time out there for the Senior Bowl. 32 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 5: I had been to Mobile many times in my previous 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 5: job for different events, but going for that event, I mean, 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 5: that's something that the town really comes out for. It's 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 5: a it's really special whenever you're out on the town 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 5: at night. I mean you see scouts everywhere, you see 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 5: media personnel everywhere. It's a really it's a really interesting event. 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: I mean the town turns into like a mini NFL 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 5: town for you know, those few days. So and we're 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: going to dive into, you know, everything from the from 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 5: the Senior Bowl, as far as evaluations go, different position groups. 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 5: I think there were some guys that really helped their stock, 43 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 5: guys that hurt their stock this week. 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 6: So it's gonna be fun, man. 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: And you're talking about Mobile turning into a mini NFL town. 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: Just wait to experience the combine. It would be so fun. 47 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: It's the best. 48 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: With that being said, I mean there's a lot that happened, 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Like you said, ups and downs of the Senior Bowl Week, 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 2: and you're gonna have a lot of that as the 51 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: draft process goes on. But who was the best that 52 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: you got your eyes on all week long? Is the 53 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: number one guy? We'll talk deeper depths, but I want 54 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: to know who was there the best. Nick Harris's MVP 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: of Senior Bowl Week. 56 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 5: I guess you got to go with Jackson Powers Johnson. 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm looking at one guy who consistently 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 5: performed on both days, you know, if you had asked 59 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 5: me after Day one, it would have been Tyler Guiding 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 5: out of Oklahoma, But then he didn't have as strong 61 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 5: of a Day two, lost some reps. I could also 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 5: throw in Darius Robinson out of Missouri, talk about as rusher. Yeah, 63 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna be a first round guy. 64 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: First round guy. So he made himself some money. 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: He was really fun at Missouri, like his tape is fun, 66 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: but it was just like what are you getting out 67 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: of the shurt? 68 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 3: So seeing him against different competition was really nice. 69 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm stamping him right now. I'm putting that first 70 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: round stock on him. I really like what I saw 71 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 5: from him. But I want to talk about Jackson Powers. 72 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 5: Johnson both days performed well, lining up at left guard, center, 73 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 5: right guard. I mean he played everywhere in the interior, 74 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 5: really good anchor, really good bass. I loved what I 75 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 5: saw from him. He kind of tweaked his hamstring towards 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: the end of practice yesterday. I'm curious. We're got the 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: Senior Bowl here on in the TV, here in the studio. 78 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: Curious to see if he's back out there today. But 79 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 5: I don't think he needs to be. I think, you know, 80 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, you know, hey, 81 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: you know the Cowboys Twitter, They're starting to look at 82 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 5: Jackson Powers Johnson as a potential option there at fifty six. 83 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: Now you're hoping he'll be there at twenty four, right. 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: I mean, this is a top twenty type guy, and 85 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: I think even if he does slip outside of the 86 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: top twenty, you look at a center needy team the 87 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 5: Miami Dolphins at twenty one, and if you somehow get 88 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 5: past them, then you're okay. Maybe, But I just don't 89 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 5: I'm starting to not see how Jackson powers Johnson slips 90 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 5: to twenty four. But never less, he made himself a 91 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 5: lot of money this week. I really liked what I 92 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 5: saw from him. 93 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised that you didn't say anything about 94 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: Liatu Latu. 95 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: Oh wait, Layatu la. 96 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: Well, you asked me for one guy, and I kind 97 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 6: of give you two. 98 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 9: But I know, but none of them were a. 99 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: Lots Yeah, you were very impressed with him. 100 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll touch on Laotsu Latsu. 101 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: Probably one of the more craftier past rushers I've ever 102 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 5: seen at this level, at this stage of his career. 103 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: When you when you combo what he can do with 104 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 5: his hands, what he can do with his athleticism, I mean, 105 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 5: he's he's really talented. He was lining up against some 106 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 5: of the stronger tackles in the class, or the stronger 107 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 5: tackles that were Aaron mobile. He was able to get 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 5: around them on a consistent basis. I mean he was 109 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 5: coming inside, he was coming around the edge. I mean 110 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 5: whenever law Tu lined up, you did not know what 111 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 5: he was going to do. There was one play that 112 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 5: really stuck stuck out to me about Law two from 113 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 5: the week, though, and I mentioned this to Kyle when 114 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 5: we were on the phone yesterday being nerds and sickos. 115 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 6: He got this whole thing we saw. 116 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: Thirty five minutes on like a drive home, and it 117 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: probably could have gone for an hour and thirty. 118 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you almost gotten like two rex on the 119 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 6: way it was. 120 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: I was yelling at other cars. It was so bad. 121 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: I'd be like, you know a Christian who's and he'd 122 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: be like, oh, my exploitive, exploitive. 123 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: But anyway, I don't say expove. Don't say that. 124 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: You said explotive the word you know, because you don't cuss. 125 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: But anyway, there was one play that stuck out to 126 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 5: me about Lats. It was a play where they were 127 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 5: in team drills, so eleven on eleven, Michael Pennix was 128 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 5: the quarterback and LAT two had him confuse from snap 129 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 5: to finish. 130 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 6: So what law Too did was he dropped back in coverage. 131 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 5: And when he dropped back and coverage, Penis did not 132 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: really expect that because he was trying to hit a 133 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 5: crosser over the middle. It kind of confused the passing 134 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: lane right there. For for Penix what lots he was 135 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 5: able to do, So he was like, Okay, let me 136 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 5: roll out and try to follow this crosser and kind 137 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: of get around lat too, because he's not going to 138 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 5: follow me. 139 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 6: He's a defensive lineman. 140 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 5: He followed him step for step and then he just 141 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 5: kind of picked up that crosser and became like a 142 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 5: coverage linebacker in a way, in a sense right there. 143 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 5: And then Pinnix threw it out of bounds. He threw 144 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: it out of bounds in a practice setting, and it 145 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: was just like, Okay, yeah, a lot too. He's smart, 146 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: he got him, he's he's he's violent whenever he wants 147 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: to rush the pass or he's really good, but whenever 148 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 5: he needs to turn on those instincts, he's even better. 149 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 5: And I really like what I saw from Law two. 150 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: That's a top ten, top fifteen pick in my book. 151 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: I love what you're saying is awesome. 152 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 7: Those are the kind of differences you're looking at with 153 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 7: some of these edge rushers. One, I mean, for his size, 154 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 7: the unique athleticism he has, but his bend, but he's 155 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 7: got an arsenal a pass rushman. He's not just like 156 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 7: a one single tool on the tool belt kind of guy. 157 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 7: That's why him and a guy like Chop Robinson from 158 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 7: Penn State. 159 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: Those are the two dudes. They kind of stand out 160 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: to me. 161 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 7: They're rare with their speed, they're timing off the edge, 162 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 7: their ability to bend, their quick twitchiness. But also they've 163 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 7: got a multitude of different ways to beat you, along 164 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 7: with having quick and violent hands. But I mean the 165 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: ability to drop off in coverage. I mean, I don't 166 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 7: think alat two is a guy that you want to 167 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 7: see do that a ton, but with his size and 168 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 7: his length, he can cause issues. 169 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: And something else about Law two too. I mean I 170 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 5: was kind of looking him up and down. He can 171 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 5: add twenty twenty five pounds to his frame, and I 172 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 5: wonder if he can retain that same athleticism. I think 173 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 5: he could. I mean his legs are still kind of lanky. 174 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 5: He's got room to grow in his arms as well. 175 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: I mean, once he gets in an NFL weight type program, 176 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 5: he can really develop into a very scary defensive way. 177 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's gonna can be. 178 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 7: He can be a terrifying presidence off the edge. It's 179 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 7: just tough because he's got you know, his previous stop. 180 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 7: Washington's like, look, dude, you're you're not playing football anymore. 181 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 7: Then he goes to UCLA and continues to play. So 182 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 7: those are two guys. I know another name that I've 183 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 7: just been seeing and I'm sure you can highlight on him, 184 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 7: and we've talked about him on the Draft show. A 185 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 7: lot of these guys really popped that we've talked about 186 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 7: to make us look good. But Peyton Wilson from Encie State, 187 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 7: the dude's been wrecking. I mean, they've got these the 188 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 7: next gen stats, they've got the mile per hour that 189 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 7: they're tracking. These guys has been the fastest linebacker there 190 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 7: at the Senior Bowl and mobile. But you got to 191 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 7: judge the medical the risk reward. For me, those are 192 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 7: two guys. You watch them on tape. They're just football players. 193 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 7: I think they're worth taking the risk for me. But 194 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 7: then again, for other people in that room, they might say, 195 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: I'm not even putting them on our board right now. 196 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be a question. I think medicals coming 197 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 5: out of combine. We've talked about that with Peyton Wilson. 198 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 5: That's gonna be the big question. And every franchise is 199 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: gonna feel different about that, right So, you know, like 200 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: you said, one team, Nah, we're good. Other team, Hey, 201 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 5: let's check on those medicals on Wilson at combine. Let's 202 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 5: kind of see from my perspective, he does not move 203 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 5: like a guy that has had knee surgery, shoulder surgeries. 204 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he's active, he's violent, he's fast. At twenty 205 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: point eight two miles per hour was the fastest on 206 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 5: field speed from all linebackers on day one. He paired 207 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: that on day two. I mean it was fun because 208 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: it was him and Cedric Gray from North Carolina that 209 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 5: were in that linebacking corps for the American Team, and 210 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 5: those guys were just flying across the place in team drills. 211 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 5: I mean, it was really fun to see they were 212 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 5: communicating well with each other. One thing that really stood 213 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 5: out to me about Peyton Wilson was that communication factor. 214 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: He's wearing the green dot for that defense this week. 215 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: He's been awesome for them. Talk to a few of 216 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: the coaches on the coaching staff for the American Team, 217 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 5: and they love what Peyton Wilson brings to the team 218 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: off the field and what he's been able to do 219 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: from a communication standpoint. So if you're looking for a 220 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: guy who also kind of needs to be able to 221 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: step in and be able to be. 222 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 6: That kind of leader on day one. Peyton Wilson's your guy. 223 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 7: That's exactly what we were talking about last week while 224 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 7: you were out there. I wonder if you heard anything 225 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 7: similar about Cedric Gray because he's another dude to me 226 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 7: from North Carolina. When you watch Jeremiah Trotter junior from Clemson, 227 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 7: I think Cedric Ray is a taller version of Jeremiah 228 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 7: Trotter Jr. He's sixty three compared to just the six 229 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 7: foot but instinct's ability to rally to the football sideline, 230 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 7: the sideline speed, and you mentioned the communication there, so 231 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 7: I wonder that can Cedric Gray kind of be that 232 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 7: field general as well? 233 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 10: Well, yeah, Cedric, if I'm not mistaken, he said he's 234 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 10: a will and so I guess like pairing them together 235 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 10: was cool to see also too. But when you talk 236 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 10: about Peyton Wilson, Doug like we talk about true Mike linebacker, 237 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 10: he's big, Doug. I was just so impressed with the 238 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 10: you mentioned the speed. It transfers so well all over 239 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 10: the field. I mean, his hips are just crazy. And 240 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 10: you don't see a guy that's had a whole bunch 241 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 10: of injuries because also to you worry about, Okay, is 242 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 10: he gonna play timm is he gonna be No, there's 243 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 10: just none of that in this game. And also too, 244 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 10: you mentioned how good he is off the field. The 245 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 10: game looks so much slower to him than everybody else 246 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 10: to me when he's out there. So you talk about 247 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 10: the IQ and the processing and the ability to react. 248 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 10: I understand the medical stuff too. I would be giving 249 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 10: it a second look depending on also to what your 250 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 10: core looks like, what your linebacker court looks like, because 251 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 10: it's also like, Okay, do I want this guy out 252 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 10: there every single snap? Maybe I don't know how you 253 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 10: decide to do that, but I do think the depth 254 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 10: that you have in your room, depending on what team 255 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 10: it is, that plays a factor and whether you decide 256 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 10: to bring a guy like this in. But I think 257 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 10: he's one of the truest mics I've seen in a minute. 258 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 11: Yeah, with the thing with Wilson, that's interesting. It reminds 259 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 11: me so much. And here we have a Trotter and 260 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 11: a draft and in nineteen ninety eight we had to 261 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 11: make a determination of Jeremiah Trotter Senior and his knee, 262 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 11: you know, and where's the value of the player, you know, 263 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 11: where's the value of the risk in the reward. Where's 264 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 11: the doctor? And you know, the Cowboys have one of 265 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 11: the best doctors in Dan Cooper in the country that 266 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 11: could tell you, Like, but you know, I just remember 267 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 11: with Jeremiah Trotter seniors or ten years. I can't tell 268 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 11: you that. You know, you have to evaluate. There's going 269 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 11: to have to be a call from somebody within an organization. 270 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 11: It's going to have to say, man, we like this 271 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 11: guy too much, let's go let's just take this guy, 272 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 11: or we can't deal with it. 273 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 9: We've you know, and the Cowboys. 274 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 11: Don't have a great history with linebackers that have been hurt. 275 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 11: Correct me if I'm wrong. I mean there's some guys 276 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 11: that have been tremendous players in this organization that have 277 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 11: come in with medical conditions and it hasn't It's ended 278 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 11: for them way before it should have ended. 279 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: Even recent history. Yeah, like very recent history. Yeah, absolutely 280 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: happened like that, no doubt. 281 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 9: Yeah. 282 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 11: And the and the sad thing about it is Overstown 283 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 11: now becomes a guy who has a medical condition for. 284 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: You you know, and so you know that's that's the thing. 285 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 11: And you know they gambled on Layton Van der Esh 286 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 11: and it it you know, he he had a nice career, 287 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 11: but it it could have been so much more if 288 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 11: maybe he wasn't dealing with so much before he been 289 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 11: got here. 290 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, they might be out of that I personally, I 291 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 10: mean as far as the Cowboys and drafting linebackers that 292 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 10: have had health issues, I feel like at this point 293 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 10: you've seen it multiple times, Jalen Smith. You've also seen 294 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 10: it with Leyden Vandersch and then now you've seen it 295 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 10: with who's the third guy, Clark who had the injury 296 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 10: as well that you. 297 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 9: Called, Yeah, you caught it. 298 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to dig a grave for the moone 299 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: Clark playing out a position and he played a ton 300 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: of snaps issue and he was healthy. 301 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: Through it all. 302 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 9: But he surprised me he played last year. 303 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: Yes, that's that was a shock in its own right. 304 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 8: Yeah. 305 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 10: I'm not absolutely not digging on him, especially with him 306 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 10: playing out a position. But I will say that with 307 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 10: this club, you you look at the track worker, maybe 308 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 10: they are a little bit more hesitant with that player 309 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 10: is just. 310 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: Him. 311 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: But make Pro Bowl somewhere else I'm gonna throw up, 312 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean Washington. 313 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 11: Well, No, it always reminds me the story again of 314 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 11: doctor Mackenzie and Green Bay and him failing. Larry Allen, 315 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 11: you know, and our general manager would walk up to 316 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 11: doctor Mackenzie and goes, see that number seventy three. He's 317 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 11: gonna kick our ass today. That's the guy you failed 318 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 11: on the physical right. 319 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 320 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 11: So but yeah, that you know, we'll see those physicals. 321 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 11: But the thing about Wilson, the ball goes towards him too, 322 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 11: by the way, And I don't mean the I mean 323 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 11: I mean it gets knocked in the air and he's there. 324 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 9: It gets thrown on the ground, he's there. He's one 325 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 9: of these guys that. 326 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 11: Has that type of ability, that instinct right place, right time, 327 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 11: being able to finish. 328 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 9: Man. 329 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 11: You would have you would have you would have done 330 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 11: anything to have one of those guys playing for you 331 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 11: this year. 332 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: You know, as you went through the season. 333 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 5: You have to have a guy with instincts. I think 334 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 5: they're drafting a linebacker. It has to be a smart 335 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: one in that second level. And that's what really stood 336 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: out to me whenever I had those conversations about Wilson 337 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 5: with the coaching staff American and and they were they 338 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 5: were very complimentary of what he brings to to that 339 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 5: to that area of the field and you can see 340 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 5: that in team drills as well. I mean he's not 341 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: miss he's not missreading gaps, his gap disciplines wrong. I 342 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: mean he's coming around the edge on fire. Yeah, whenever 343 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 5: he does want to rush the passers. So, I mean, 344 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 5: this is a guy I would take. I'm not concerned. 345 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 11: One of the best players I've ever scouted in my 346 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 11: life was a guy named Luke Keighley. 347 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 9: And Luke, Yeah, Luke Keighley was pretty good. 348 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 5: This is this is wild because Peyton Wilson told me 349 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 5: yesterday Luke is his guy. 350 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: Like, that's who you watched. 351 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 9: You watch that. 352 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 11: You watch Boston College tape when Luke Keighley played, and 353 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 11: he made every single tackle. He was around every single ball. 354 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 11: He was he was always in the mix. 355 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 9: And you talk about the instincts, that's the something. 356 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: And you're really good with scheme. 357 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 11: You like when you when you evaluate always let's follow 358 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 11: you because I like what you talk about with scheme. 359 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 11: One of the things that these cowboy linebackers I think 360 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 11: lacked a little of was the instinct you know it 361 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 11: was it was I just talked about don't guess, don't 362 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 11: end up in, don't be in c gap and you 363 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 11: need to be an a gap. 364 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: Don't be that guy. 365 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 11: When you don't have instinct you guess you you hope, 366 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 11: you know those things. Those are bad things to have. 367 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 11: And they need thinctual linebackers and the instincts aren't coaching. 368 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 7: I mean, that's something that you have, you have, It's 369 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 7: an innate feeling of the game. 370 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: There, he certainly has it. 371 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 7: There's a couple of these linebackers that we've talked about 372 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 7: that do and that's something they certainly are lacking. 373 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: Well, they missed it with Layton vander Resh. 374 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: Layton vander Resh was that instinct and heady and film study. 375 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: He had all of those elements. 376 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: And then when that went away, and even there were 377 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: times in his career where he was looking like it 378 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: wasn't there from a physicality standpoint, even in the back 379 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: hap before he got hurt. 380 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 12: He can see it. 381 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: He can see it, but he just couldn't get there. 382 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: My apology is that completely. 383 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 9: My apologies for being late. 384 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 11: But if we are we talking about linebackers, Mighty brought 385 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 11: up Coulson. 386 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: From Mission to bring him up. We talked a little 387 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: bit about him yesterday on our show. I know, do 388 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: you want to I mean, Colston's a big boy. 389 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 9: This is this Now we're talking size. 390 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 11: So yeah, since you're bringing up linebackers again, I'm sorry 391 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 11: a little bit show well, no, but the size. I'm 392 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 11: just talking about the size of the guy. Six three 393 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 11: two forty seven, you know. And this guy, I mean, 394 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 11: he he played with basically a club left hand the 395 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 11: last three or four weeks of the. 396 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: Season and it didn't affect him at all. 397 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 11: But if you're looking for a big, powerful, thick lower 398 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 11: body guy that can pack a punch, physical downhill player, 399 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 11: take a peek at Junior Colson the linebacker. And I know, 400 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 11: we say Michigan and people lose their damn mind. If 401 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 11: you're a Cowboy fan, if you're a fan of another team, 402 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 11: take a look at Junior Coulson from from Michigan. If 403 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 11: they're looking for a physical inside linebacker, Atlanta fans go 404 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 11: ahead and check out. Yeah this dock Lear fans, Dolphin fans, Yeah, yeah. 405 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: You mentioned the club. 406 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: When you watch him the National Championship game against Washington, 407 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 7: he's cleaning up and. 408 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: Making every single that's crazy. 409 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 7: And he can cover. Yeah, and he can cover. So 410 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 7: I mean, that's a great name. Have you guys watched. 411 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: We mentioned line. 412 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 7: When in here through this thing on its head. I 413 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 7: love what you did. You mentioned linebackers with instincts. Here's 414 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: a guy that I think looks the part, has all 415 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 7: the physical tools. 416 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 9: That you want. 417 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 7: I think he lacks that and that's what holds him 418 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 7: back a little bit. And it's Curtis Jacobs, the linebacker 419 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: from Penn State six one, two thirty five. Curtis Jacobs 420 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 7: was watching him and I'm like, man, there's a lot 421 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 7: to like here. He can drop off in coverage. He's 422 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 7: got a really good motor. I mean the athletic skills. 423 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 7: He's twitchy, he can go sideline to sideline. But sometimes 424 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 7: I just think he finds himself. He's alert where he's 425 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 7: in the right position to fall on fumble recoveries. 426 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 3: And he's got a good punch. He's got that peanut 427 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: tillman punch knock the ball out. 428 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 7: But there's also times where you're seeing him kind of 429 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: take the wrong angles. He's jumping in the wrong gap, 430 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 7: he's kind of getting himself run out of. 431 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's interesting players. 432 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 7: I think there's a lot to like there, and I 433 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 7: think a linebacker coach is looking to be like man, 434 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 7: I can do something with that size and athleticism. But 435 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 7: you talk about the instinct thing that's a player. When 436 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 7: you compare him with like a Peyton Wilson, or a 437 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 7: Cedric Ray, or a Trotter, some of Colston, some of 438 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 7: these other guys, that's what to me, I would drop 439 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 7: him compared to those other guys. 440 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about Curtis Jacob Shriebol guy, I kind 441 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: of see where you're coming from. 442 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 6: And you look at his frame too. 443 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: I think if you're going to get a linebacker the 444 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 5: Cowboys specifically, you got to get one that has size. 445 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: There can't be any size questions. And for me, the 446 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 5: guy that kind of stuck out to me from the 447 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: Shrine Bowl group was Darius Muissau out of U. C. 448 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 10: L A. 449 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: That was the guy that stood out for me. You 450 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: talk about instincts, I mean that guy has it. He 451 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: had a red zone interception. 452 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: Covers, he could cover his zone awareness. Yes, I want 453 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 3: to see him real little oppressive. 454 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 9: Yeah. 455 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: Whenever I went and what looked at his tape after 456 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: he was impressed in Trine Bowl practice. He doesn't hit, 457 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: he's very He's a wrap up heavy guy. He's not 458 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: a powerful guy. 459 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 9: Nice coverage. 460 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: I like him in coverage. 461 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: I like him whenever he's going sideline, the sideline and patrolling. 462 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: I want to see him come downhill and put some physicality. 463 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 5: My question for you then would be from a Cowboys perspective, 464 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 5: do you want a guy who's better in coverage? Do 465 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 5: you want that guy that can come down and really 466 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: be physical and those because you could flip the moan 467 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 5: Clark if you have that guy that can be that. 468 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: But that's a question which I think is what they 469 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 6: need to do. 470 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 7: And he brought this up the other day with the 471 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 7: roquewand Smith Patrick Queen development and we're talking about other teams. 472 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 7: I think that would help the mon Clark a lot, 473 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 7: having a guy like because this dude cleans up man. 474 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 7: I mean, he's a guy that he's filling gas. And 475 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 7: his ability to shed I mean, you guys talked to 476 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 7: me about this. Then I went and watched him the 477 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 7: other night, and I'll love watching this player. I mean 478 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 7: his ability to get off Blass's uncanny. 479 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 12: Yeah. 480 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 10: And I mean when you mentioned switching demon Clark back 481 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 10: to his regular position, I noticed towards the end of 482 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 10: the year, even so Dan was starting to play him 483 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 10: a little closer to the line of scrimmage, and you 484 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 10: could see he was a little bit more decisive and 485 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 10: was slashing and. 486 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 12: Was a little bit more physical. 487 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 10: I think you got a little glimpse of what he 488 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 10: could be if he's not being asked to be you 489 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 10: know that that middle line that I want to see 490 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 10: him be able to be a little bit more free 491 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 10: and play off of somebody. I think that'll make a 492 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 10: difference as well. 493 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: That's got to be a goal this offseason for this defense, 494 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 2: right is to push him back into his natural position. 495 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 12: He deserves that. 496 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: I think he does. 497 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 12: I think he deserves the opportunity to play. 498 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 10: I mean, I think a lot of people obviously are like, 499 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 10: I'm over this player, whatever. 500 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 12: The case may be. 501 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 10: But when guys are playing out of position, I don't 502 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 10: know about any other position but linebacker, it changes everything 503 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 10: philosophy wise for you and so for me. I'm hoping 504 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 10: that he is able to give back to his original 505 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 10: position so we can see him thrive, because I do 506 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 10: think this this guy still has the capability to be 507 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 10: a good player. 508 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: You think you think back to the one game that 509 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: he had this past year where he was super comfortable 510 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: playing in position having a good time doing it. The 511 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 5: Jacksonville preseason game when he had like nine tackles in 512 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: the first half and then the second half, they're like, 513 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 5: all right, you're a good guy. 514 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: Take a jersey. 515 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 6: It was him and to Marvin Overshot on the field 516 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 6: to get you before he got hurt. 517 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 12: So it's still be a tandem. 518 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 10: Thing, dog like it's it's I mean, we we've talked 519 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 10: about it is like the linebackers in this in the 520 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 10: NFL that are thriving right now. 521 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 12: There are tandems you need. 522 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 10: You need to be able to play off someone and 523 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 10: and and again we've talked about Marquis Bell and how 524 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 10: well he's played and everything he's done, but he's still 525 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 10: not a linebacker. 526 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: He's still and that matters. He's happy, it's so happy 527 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: to be back at safety. 528 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 11: So there's nobody more happy for him. There's no be 529 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 11: more happy to be the season over. Well, I shouldn't 530 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 11: say it, because nobody wants the season to be over. 531 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 11: But he's probably thinking, they asked me to do something 532 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 11: that he has to be proud that he did something 533 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 11: did not many people think he could have done play 534 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 11: linebacker for thirteen weeks or so as an undrafted guy 535 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 11: out of it. 536 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 12: It's probably gonna make him. 537 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, he's definitely seeing this and getting that experience I 538 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 10: think is gonna help him when he goes. 539 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 12: Back to safety. 540 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: Well, and he'll have a different defensive coordinator to to term. 541 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: Wait what Yeah, let's talk about it a second. 542 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 2: When we come back, it's time for Twitter on the 543 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: twenty and we're gonna answer some dan quinn questions. 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As the reports came out this morning 612 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: that Washington. 613 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Is hiring the Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator as their head coach. 614 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 3: Our reports, we haven't a Is it official official? 615 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 6: Quinn? 616 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty official official. Yeah, but where does the 617 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: next domino fall? Jeffrey asks, what do you think. 618 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 6: The defensive staff? 619 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's where that's where you look at. Right, 620 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 5: You look at Al Harris, who has said before that 621 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 5: he doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter if dan Quinn's 622 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: coaching in Alaska, he would go follow him. So you 623 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 5: look at that, You look at Joe Witt. If Joe 624 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: Witt is not you know, uh elevated to d c 625 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 5: here in Dallas. You would kind of look at him 626 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: to leave. You look at Aid and Dirty as well, 627 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: and then you look at Sharif Floyd, who's also on 628 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: that defensive line staff. I mean, you would have to 629 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 5: replace quite a bit, I feel like with with dan 630 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 5: Quinn and what he's able to take. We'll see those 631 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 5: dominoes kind of fall over the course of the next 632 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 5: few days. We'll probably have more clarity on that by 633 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 5: the time we come back for a Tuesday show. But yeah, 634 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 5: it's that's that's where you look at immediately, and then 635 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 5: you start worrying about, Okay, who can you bring in here? 636 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 5: Who has some staff, has some connections that can make 637 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 5: this defense, you know, as seamless of a transition as possible, 638 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 5: but also bringing an element to the defense that could 639 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 5: be a little bit different to to have better postseason success. 640 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 7: Trayvon Diggs has already put out the campaign for Al 641 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 7: Harris his position coach. Oh wow, Trade Montas put it 642 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 7: out there on X he said, Al Harris for DC. 643 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 7: So that's so he you know that that's who he's 644 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 7: campaigning for. And I'm a big Al Harris guy. 645 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 3: Me too. 646 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 7: I don't want to lose him. I would rather elevate 647 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 7: him than lose him. I think sometimes you got to 648 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 7: take a risk in a gamble on these guys, even 649 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 7: if you don't think they're ready. 650 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 3: You already said it scared money, don't make money. I'm 651 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: willing to do that if it crashes and burns. 652 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 11: Yeah, the problem is crashing burns means crashing burns for 653 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 11: Mike McCarthy too. 654 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: But isn't he kind of in that situation any way? 655 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 3: That's you know, yeah, that's what you have to think about. 656 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 9: You know, you have to know you're absolutely right. 657 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 11: But you know, if you're Mike McCarthy, you really have 658 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 11: to be very mindful of what you're about to do 659 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 11: because you need to find a way. You You probably 660 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 11: like coaching here, yeah, you like, you know, you don't. 661 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 11: Nobody wants to get fired. But see this is now 662 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 11: where the and you mentioned the potential dominoes. I think 663 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 11: a guy like Joe Witt has to weigh a couple 664 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 11: of things here. Could he go be the d C 665 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 11: with the commanders on a three year deal or could 666 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 11: he work for a coach for one year? Those are 667 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 11: the things you have to think about when you're doing 668 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 11: these things, you know. 669 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 9: And the one thing that dan. 670 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 11: Quinn has as a as a bargaining chip is that 671 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 11: he's got years and he could promise years. Nobody here 672 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 11: could promise me years, you know, and so that makes 673 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 11: it very difficult. 674 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: I would keep it. 675 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 11: I'd keep an eye on some outside names. I keep 676 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 11: a name a name on outside, name on Mike Zimmer 677 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 11: potentially here. I think Mike Zimmer would absolutely love to 678 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 11: come back and help. And you know, and he and 679 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 11: Mike competed it against each other in Minnesota and Green Bay. 680 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 11: Very familiar with his game. Uh, he caused Mike some problems. 681 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 11: Maybe maybe Mike's not Mike zimber guy, you know, but 682 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 11: that would be a guy that I would look at. 683 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 11: He'd keep you in your four three front. He'd bring 684 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 11: you some accountability to your team. He's a tough minded guy. 685 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 11: I'd keep him out of the draft room because times. 686 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: He used to drive me absolutely nuts. 687 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 11: But but but that's what Mike could bring here. Now, 688 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 11: if it is, we'll see what happened with the staff. 689 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 11: That probably is your first option. Guy like Martindale who's 690 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 11: out there from the Giants, we've known him from the 691 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 11: Ravens and then now with the Giants. 692 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 9: That's a three four front. 693 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 11: You know, if you're Mike McCarthy again trying to keep 694 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 11: my job here, do I want to be changing personnel? 695 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 11: Do I want to be having to flip a defense? 696 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 11: You know, there's a lot of things, a lot of 697 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 11: moving parts here that potentially could happen. The one, like 698 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 11: I said, that makes the most sense to me would be, 699 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 11: you know, if if Mike wants to give Al one 700 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 11: of those guys a chance, Yeah, great, great, give him 701 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 11: a chance. But also know that you know it's a 702 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 11: first time d C and what we see what happened 703 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 11: first time o C d C in Philadelphia this year. Yeah, 704 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 11: those two folks got got let go. 705 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: No question. 706 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: These are the candidates that I have written down. I 707 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: kind of go up as a hot board type type content. 708 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 5: Piece of Dallas Cowboys dot Com later today mentioned Mike Zimmer, 709 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 5: him and McCarthy have a really good relationship. Back and 710 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 5: back when McCarthy was let go by Packers, Zimmer came 711 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: out and he said, that's sad, that's a mistake. He 712 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 5: was very critical of that decision. Ron Rivera also really 713 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 5: tight with Mike McCarthy, but. 714 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: He would help me. 715 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 11: He would help you with the Rooney rule. Yes, you 716 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 11: still you still have to deal with here offensive, defensive courting. 717 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: He's also been very good against the run. 718 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: Now he had some guys up front that you could 719 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 2: rely on in Washington to help stop the run. 720 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: And to do that, we mentioned Al Harrison, Joe Whitt Junior. 721 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 5: Those are the in house possibilities I think. I think 722 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 5: if you look at those two, Joe wit Junior would 723 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 5: have to be the favorite in as far as in 724 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: house candidates go, just based on you know, his experience, 725 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: what he's been able to bring. And then three guys 726 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 5: that are currently unemployed, Brandon Staley, Wink Martindale, Jack del Rio. 727 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 5: So those are some names you could you can kind 728 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: of think of. I mean, I mean I've seen on Twitter, 729 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: Mike ray Weill, Mike ray Well, Mike Rabel. What you know, 730 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 5: this is the perfect fit. I don't think it's the 731 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 5: perfect fit for Mike. 732 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: I think taking a year off. 733 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 6: I think he is too. It makes sense kind of 734 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: makes sense too, But it would. 735 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: Be fun, It would be fun. It would be also 736 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: three four kind of guy as well. 737 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 7: Mike Rabel is going to add some toughness in discipline, 738 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 7: which I think cowboy face and you're craving right now, 739 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 7: But I wonder about that. I think some of the 740 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 7: other names that you gave are really good. I did 741 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 7: read from our buddy John Michoda back in twenty twenty one. 742 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 7: Joe Who Junior was talking about his two dream jobs, 743 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 7: one wash to be the head coach at South Florida, 744 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 7: the others to be the defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys. 745 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: Interesting. 746 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, so maybe he pushes for that pretty hard so 747 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 7: he can accomplish one of those dreams. 748 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean also too, to add to the Joe 749 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 10: Wit training. I mean, as far as we talk about 750 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 10: you know, you mentioned family and things like that, I 751 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 10: know that he has two. 752 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 12: Lovely daughters that he definitely has mentioned. 753 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 10: Even like Will McLay, I want to stay here for 754 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 10: my kiddo, and those are other factors that play into 755 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 10: some of these decisions as well, to stay put and 756 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 10: to you know, have that stability. So whoever come in here, 757 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 10: I hope that it translates. Well, Yeah, I'm very I 758 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 10: don't know about y'all, but I'm a definitely kind of 759 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 10: on edge a bit about who it's going to be 760 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 10: because not only that, it changes how we have to 761 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 10: look at the draft and how we have to evaluate 762 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 10: players and stuff like that. But I'm definitely a little lights. 763 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: Along those same lines. 764 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: There's another question on Twitter on the twenty, Ryan asked 765 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: how bad are scouts sweating trying to figure out who 766 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: their next defensive coordinator is? 767 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 11: So, Brian speaking, this is where it changes things. This 768 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 11: is the problem, and this is the ranch. You hear 769 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 11: me go on about continuity and not wanting to change 770 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 11: and things like that, because it does all of a 771 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 11: sudden if you do get a new defensive coordinator and 772 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 11: say he is a a week Martindale who they determined, 773 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 11: you know, he has a three four history. Now you 774 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 11: have to determine okay, the players that I didn't feel 775 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 11: like during the year. I have to go back and 776 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 11: reevaluate guys that I that you know, say you go 777 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 11: to a school and there's seven players for more defensive players, 778 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 11: but they play a three four front, so I can't 779 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 11: really look and I'm looking at the corner and I'm 780 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 11: looking at another a linebacker. I'm not looking at the 781 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 11: defensive line or you know, because that's they don't fit 782 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 11: what we're our scheme is so, but there's nowadays teams 783 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 11: guys who've done it really job of playing three four front, 784 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 11: four three front, you know, kind of mixing the two together. 785 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 11: I know for a fact Mike Zimmer, I'll never forget 786 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 11: Bill Parcells told him, he goes, you could run this 787 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 11: four to three defense one more year, but next year 788 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 11: you're calling it a four to three excuse me, a 789 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 11: three four four. Yeah, And Mike did, and he went 790 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 11: top ten, top ten, you know, and never had called 791 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 11: a three four defense in his life. So those are 792 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 11: the types of things these guys can adapt. But for 793 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 11: a scouts, it's a little bit of a damn. I 794 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 11: got to pull back all my notes that I had 795 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 11: that I said, no, not for us, not for us, 796 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 11: not for us, And then now it's a it's a 797 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 11: scramble to kind of get the find of those guys. 798 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 5: Before I talked to Will McLay yesterday and mobile I 799 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 5: was curious to see how the Scouting Department had approached 800 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 5: twenty twenty and Mike McCarthy coming in and having to 801 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 5: deal with that kind of change regime, because that happened 802 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 5: while they were in the middle of this similar process 803 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 5: that happened earlier in the cycle, obviously, but how does 804 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 5: how does that kind of factor into a potential DC change? 805 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: He had said at that. 806 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: Time, there's an organizational structure to what they do as 807 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: aouting department, what they do as a front office. So 808 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 5: whenever I asked him yesterday, I was like, does that 809 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 5: kind of play into a potential defensive coordinator change? 810 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 6: This is the quote that he gave. 811 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 5: At the end of the day, when you're looking for players, 812 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 5: you're looking for the biggest, strongest, fastest, most athletic guys 813 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 5: and seeing how they fit into our scheme, whatever that 814 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: scheme is. We've got to evaluate the players and if 815 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 5: that scheme changes at any point in time, you still 816 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 5: have that value as to what guys are and how 817 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 5: they could potentially fit. And I said, does that kind 818 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 5: of link back to that organizational structure. 819 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 6: He's like, yes, absolutely, it does. 820 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 5: So I really don't think there's going to be a 821 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 5: major change as far as scouting department goes, because they 822 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: look at all these guys anywhere, you know, they know, okay, 823 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: this is a three to four guy that I think 824 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 5: this guy would better fitting a four, two, five, so 825 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 5: on and so forth. So whenever a guy comes in, 826 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 5: they just kind of plug in place. I mean, it's 827 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 5: kind of the beauty of the scouting department is you 828 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 5: don't really have to be so scheme focused. You can 829 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 5: kind of be as wide open as you want to 830 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 5: be with it, and you just kind of have different 831 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 5: pieces that could fit differently. I think what makes it 832 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 5: interesting for us here on this draft show is a 833 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: different defensive coordinator bringing in a different scheme. 834 00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 6: We got to look at. 835 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 5: Different guys holy fit with that. These guys they already 836 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 5: have the whole thing mapped out. You know, they're much 837 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 5: ahead further than all of us even dream about being. 838 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 5: So I really don't think there's gonna be a ton 839 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 5: that goes into it, but there's obviously gonna have to 840 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 5: be some intention and some purpose behind it. 841 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 2: Having the cornerstone of Will McLay in that scouting department 842 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: that helps with that continent about question. 843 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 3: And we've talked about it in this show before. 844 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: Dan Quinn guys, Oh he's a dan Quinn guy, long 845 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: lanky corner. 846 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 3: Oh he's a speed edge rusher. 847 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: These guys on the interior, that that'll change, that sort 848 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 2: of conversation will change. But like you're saying it's not 849 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: going to change a whole lot over there. I did 850 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: have a conversation yesterday before the news kind of came 851 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: down with a couple individuals across the building and I 852 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: asked them just kind of dan Quinn. 853 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: I was like, how much does he helped you guys in 854 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 3: the past, And he said The response I got was 855 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: he can evaluate. 856 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: He can A lot of coaches can aren't asked to 857 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 2: do it and aren't really great at it. He was saying, 858 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 2: one thing we'll miss is the fact that he can 859 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: evaluate players at the top of the level. And if 860 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: that's the case, you're gonna missed that and you might 861 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 2: need a guy like that to come in and fill 862 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: that void. And then maybe that's the veteran decision making 863 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: process that you go through. 864 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you saw that. And then the impact 865 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 12: of the draft. 866 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 10: Obviously he's been his input, but also to he can 867 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 10: clearly evaluate, because if you look at some of the 868 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 10: defensive players that are on this team, they they got 869 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 10: better with him here. 870 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 12: They improved with him here. 871 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 10: I mean even if Jay ron Kurst that you brought in, 872 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 10: say what you want to say, but his first two 873 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 10: years here, this was someone that people considered a journeyman 874 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 10: and you got special, fantastic. 875 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 12: Play out of him. 876 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 10: Anthony Brown before he left, I felt like he had 877 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 10: some of his best. 878 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 12: Years when dan Quinn got here. Yeah, dron Blant, I 879 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 12: think that. 880 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 10: Yeah, when you talk about evaluating, yeah, for sure, he 881 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 10: clearly has it. 882 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 12: Even looking at Marquis Beell. 883 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 13: He. 884 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 6: Bring up Miah Yah. 885 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, micas Well got what I'm saying. 886 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 9: He put Mike at edge, you know. 887 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 11: And and I would like to challenge anybody to watch 888 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 11: Penn State tape and tell me that he was going to. 889 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 10: Get even seeing Tank some three tech things, somebody stay, 890 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 10: he's seen. 891 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 9: Well, that's the thing I think that. 892 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 11: I think that Will, you know, when you start to 893 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 11: talk about Dan, I think Will really respected Dan's ability 894 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 11: to go out there, roll up his sleeves and go 895 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 11: shoulder to shoulder with the scouts and work and be 896 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 11: a you know, and being in Tuscaloosa and being Lexington, Kentucky. 897 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 3: And we saw him in Iowa last Yeah. 898 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 11: I mean I mean Dan is like, Okay, give me 899 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 11: a list and tell me when. 900 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 9: These pro days we go work with these Yeah, And 901 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 9: there's a lot. 902 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 11: Of times where these coaches they go and they just don't. 903 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 11: They don't want to be They just don't want to 904 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 11: be a part of it. They just really don't. The 905 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 11: one the best ones I've ever been around, like a 906 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 11: Bill Parcells, they want to be in there, they want 907 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 11: to be talking about these guys. You know, it makes 908 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 11: your team better that way, no doubt. 909 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 7: And he clearly had a plan for a guy like Overshown, right, Yeah, 910 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 7: I mean so, I mean you mentioned the continuity. I 911 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 7: think that's why I think at Joe whit Junior will 912 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 7: probably be the leader for this job. But I think 913 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,879 Speaker 7: that what he deserves a lot of credit for for here. 914 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 7: And we talk about scheme, you talk about what you know, 915 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 7: does a defensive conader want to do? The best coaches, 916 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 7: I'm going to figure out how to maximize my talent 917 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 7: with what I've got currently right with these players. Let 918 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 7: me find a way to put up this player in 919 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,479 Speaker 7: a position to succeed. Dan Quinn did that You mentioned 920 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 7: a guy like Mike Zimmer, you know, and you know 921 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 7: this because you were living this in this building. 922 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: Bill Parcells is like, let's go to a three four. 923 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 7: You got undersized players, you got Dat and Winn, you 924 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 7: got next to Cokeley you know, and what are they doing. 925 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 7: They got the number one overall defense of a five 926 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 7: and eleven team. That's what makes these great defensive coordinator specialists. 927 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 7: Even if I don't have quote unquote my guys, I'm 928 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 7: going to find a way to excel with the talent 929 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 7: that I currently have. And as long as you got 930 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 7: good football players, which I think is what this draft 931 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 7: process is all about, you find a way to make 932 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 7: this this team. 933 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 11: Will always have good football players because the scouts do 934 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 11: a great job here, They really really do. It was 935 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 11: a little bit of a stumble. We'll see what happens 936 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 11: with this last class. But this class. You never have 937 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 11: to worry about this group tanking, Yeah, because they will 938 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 11: always if they as long as they let them pick players, 939 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 11: they will find players. 940 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 9: This group will do that. 941 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, the talent is there. 942 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 10: But when we're talking about who's going to be the 943 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 10: new defense as a coordinator, the scheme is what is 944 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 10: whooped yo tail? 945 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah that's a good point. 946 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 12: So that's what I'm and you're gonna. 947 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 3: See that scheme twice a year now in Washington. You 948 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: will see it across the way. 949 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be how about that four times a year? 950 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna see Mike McCarthy versus one of his former coordinators. 951 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 2: You can see him Againstkellen Moore twice a year, and you're 952 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 2: gonna see him against Dan Quinn twice a year. 953 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 3: Interesting couple of games coming up this year. I do 954 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 3: want to fit. 955 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: In a draft specific question, James Jackson asked who would 956 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: be the bigger impact in Dallas if he was taken 957 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 2: in the first round. Jackson, Powers Johnson from Oregon center 958 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: or Byron Murphy, the second defensive lineman interior defensive lineman 959 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 2: out of Texas. 960 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: He's scared. 961 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a fun one. I had saw a 962 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 6: seen that reply. 963 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 5: Whenever I saw that you tweeted that out, and I 964 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 5: was like, I knew he's gonna bring this one up. 965 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 5: I knew it for me, it's gonna be Powers Johnson. 966 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 5: I think I think he's a guy that can be 967 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 5: a multi year starter at center from day one and 968 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 5: be really efficient and really good at it. I love 969 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 5: Byron Murphy. I think he could be awesome as a 970 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 5: defensive tackle. I think you need a guy with a 971 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 5: little bit more size if you're looking at the Dallas defense. 972 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 5: But I still think Bayern Murphy is a guy that 973 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 5: will be a potential All Pro one day. I mean 974 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 5: it's it's like it's it's but picking between two angels here. 975 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this is but is Jackson powers Johnson going 976 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: to be an All Pro one day? 977 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 5: I think he has that potential. I'm saying, like, both 978 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 5: of these guys had that potential. Both of these guys 979 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 5: are young, they're both coming out early. You can't go 980 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 5: wrong with either of those picks. But based on what 981 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 5: Dallas needs today, I'm taking Jackson. 982 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 11: Give me a position that that would make you think 983 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 11: differently over the center, yeah, okay, give. 984 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 6: Me a position, yeah, okay, give me a leit linebacker. 985 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 6: But there's this class. That's not one in this class. 986 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 11: Okay, so there's not You don't have a linebacker that's 987 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 11: that you would take that's better than the center. 988 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 3: How about an offensive tackle? 989 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the question too. If he slips to 990 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 5: twenty four, do you take a tackle or do you 991 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 5: take the center? And I think there's a couple of 992 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 5: interesting things you run into there. One, if you don't 993 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 5: take a tackle in the first round, or you're not 994 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 5: going to get a good one at fifty six or past. 995 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 6: So, like if you need a tackle in this draft. 996 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 6: You got to get it at twenty four. 997 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 2: You're already on the edge at twenty four of exact 998 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 2: guys exactly. 999 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 5: But if you wait on taking the center, then you 1000 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 5: have an opportunity to take a Zach Fraser or to 1001 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 5: take a Bowl Lemmur or et Centric Vampiing Brander later on. Yeah, 1002 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 5: you'd have to develop those guys a little bit, but 1003 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 5: you still have kind of options in house with TJ. Bass, Brockoffman, 1004 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 5: et cetera, that you can work at center where it's tackle. 1005 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: I think there's more of a need there. It'd be interesting, 1006 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 5: It's an interesting conversation that'd be curious to know the 1007 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 5: people across the hall think about it. 1008 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 12: You got some I agree with you. 1009 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 10: No, I was just gonna say I agree that I 1010 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 10: think that the interior I can't pull you off the center. 1011 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 12: I think the interior depth is better. 1012 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 10: It's it's it's better than what the tackle depth is 1013 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 10: later in the in the rounds or whatever. We already 1014 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 10: talked about some of the guys we even saw at 1015 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 10: the Shrine Bowl and some of what they were able 1016 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 10: to do. But the center position is I'm not swaying 1017 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 10: on that. I'm sorry, you're. 1018 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 9: Not going to move. 1019 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 3: You shouldn't. The center position is very. 1020 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 12: Very I feel very strongly about it right. 1021 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 7: Now, and I think that he's Jackson power. Johnson think 1022 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 7: is a special player. I think for me, the one 1023 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 7: that I would kind of maybe defensive end. I still 1024 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,479 Speaker 7: think that might be a sneaky need for this football, Tay. 1025 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 7: And if you have somebody that slides down to you 1026 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 7: that we are not expecting, whether it is a Jared 1027 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 7: Verse or a Chop Robinson or a lot too, maybe 1028 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 7: it's because of medical Those are players I would look 1029 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 7: at and say, darn they're available at twenty four. That's 1030 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 7: probably going to be the best player on my board. 1031 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 12: I'm pulling the trigger, and it's important. 1032 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 10: I think when you talk about edge, I think this 1033 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 10: past year you looked at the Cowboys and you said, okay, well, 1034 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 10: and also too with dan Quinn Leman, like there's some 1035 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 10: guys that came here specifically for him play defense, like 1036 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 10: a Dante Fowler and those guys, I am very curious 1037 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,439 Speaker 10: to see how they attack edge because I do think 1038 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 10: it's about time to maybe get some production there outside 1039 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 10: of the gentlemen that have been doing what they do well. 1040 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: And also, are you retaining Dorince Armstrong. 1041 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 10: That's what I'm saying, That's what I feels about that. 1042 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 5: Time of like, it's tough for me to justify the 1043 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 5: depth at tackle position here in this draft to take 1044 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 5: anything else, okay. 1045 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 7: Because you're gonna get such a run in the first 1046 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 7: round on tak exactly. And here's what if a Guidon. 1047 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 3: Is there and the Cowboys say, hey, we like this. 1048 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 12: Guy, stop playing with me. 1049 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: I'm down for it. 1050 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 7: I mean, if they evaluate an office to tackle, I 1051 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 7: don't think anybody should be doubting their vision for that point. 1052 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 2: Morgan out of Arizona, guiding out of Oklahoma, Jackson Powers, 1053 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: Johnson out. 1054 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 3: Of Oregon are all on the board of twenty four? 1055 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 3: Who you taking? I'm taking Jack's powers, Johns Okay, so 1056 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: you're staying with center? 1057 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 9: Center? 1058 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1059 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 6: Center? 1060 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 3: Who would you still stay there? Center? Staying there? 1061 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 12: Yeah? I mean I think this. 1062 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 7: Is all of them except for baby Poalty. 1063 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 3: I think, yes, all of them. Yeah, Well, hold up, 1064 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,919 Speaker 3: there's a different. That's a different. Here's the deal. Grand 1065 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 3: Barton's not how positive he is right now. 1066 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 7: He has Johnson is getting all this love and and 1067 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 7: and he deserves it, and I think the position flex 1068 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 7: is something that's really intriguing to me. 1069 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 9: Who's the better athlete? 1070 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: There's power, Johnson's a better athlete than Graham Barton. 1071 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 9: I think powers Johnson's stronger. 1072 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 11: I think Barton's a better app played left to see 1073 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 11: I think, I don't think. 1074 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 9: I don't think. I don't know. 1075 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can think got a little 1076 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 3: bit more nasty. 1077 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 12: Why isn't Joe getting any love here? 1078 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: Oh no, Joe, I just don't think Joe sniff in your. 1079 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: To make sense talking about Williams, you need to go 1080 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 2: talk to Dan quinn at too. 1081 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 7: Otherwise, Hell yeah, if you want to move up and 1082 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 7: you'll get Joe, do that. 1083 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 10: If there is a run, if there is a run, 1084 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 10: do you even consider because again we're talking about tackle, 1085 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 10: Hey chance steal came back? Yeah, do you even if 1086 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 10: the board falls and everybody's gone? 1087 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 12: Do you even look at it? Amarus Mims, because he does. 1088 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 10: They think he has They think he has flexed to 1089 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 10: be he does right. 1090 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 12: Side and left. 1091 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 7: He just doesn't have a great body of work. He 1092 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 7: just hasn't played a lot of it. To look at 1093 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 7: his athleticism whole, I mean the sky's the limit for 1094 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 7: this kid into what you want? 1095 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 9: What do you got to sell it? 1096 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 10: No, I mean I mean the size of Yeah, I 1097 00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 10: mean the size is crazy. 1098 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 12: I really like his initial punch. 1099 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 10: Yes, I was looking at him because I was trying 1100 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 10: to figure out, like, why is this punch so strong? 1101 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 10: I will say he does have times where I don't 1102 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 10: know if this is what he's been taught to do 1103 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 10: or whatever, but he punches with two hands. Sometimes he's 1104 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 10: trying to put people on their ass. He's effective when 1105 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 10: pulling the super athletic in space. Like you guys said, 1106 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 10: he drives off the ball with strength. He hasn't played 1107 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 10: He hasn't played a ton, you know, like we talked about. 1108 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 12: But his best year was with in twenty two. 1109 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 10: I felt like he put together some good some good 1110 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 10: games there quicksetter with fantastic foot quickness. Laterally, I think 1111 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 10: he can work on this awareness. But I think he 1112 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 10: has a solid, solid recovery and can disengage. 1113 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 12: He can help in space too. He can help out 1114 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 12: his buddy, I Yo. 1115 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 10: I want him to be a little stronger finished and 1116 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 10: blocks in the run game. And but his hand placement 1117 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 10: and stuff is there, Like the the basics of what 1118 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 10: you're looking for from this. 1119 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 12: Position is there. 1120 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 10: It just depends on what people decide. I mean, he 1121 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 10: really showed up. He showed up at the right time. 1122 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 10: Going to show up and say show you can play 1123 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 10: the playoffs is probably the right time. 1124 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 12: So, I mean, I know a lot of people like 1125 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,720 Speaker 12: I'm scared his gay boy. 1126 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 10: Draws in the playoffs. Let's let's take a look at 1127 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 10: the player. See and if it and are you a 1128 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 10: coach or. 1129 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 12: Are you not all right? 1130 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 14: That is? 1131 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,720 Speaker 6: I suffer from comparison syndrome. 1132 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 9: You're gonna be the kid that that the giants have. 1133 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I suffer from comparison syndrome. 1134 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 5: Whenever I look at somebody and I know this is 1135 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 5: a great somebody. 1136 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 6: That I have in my hand right here, I see another. 1137 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 5: But there's a greater somebody that I feel like is 1138 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 5: the same product of this realm, and that is JC 1139 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 5: Latham for me, Like if I'm looking at h Marus Mis, 1140 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 5: that's a better version of a Marius is. 1141 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 7: A right tackle for sure, Yeah, and that's you probably 1142 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 7: have a little bit more versus whims I think can 1143 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 7: be a left tackle. I JC Latham is the guy 1144 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 7: we haven't talked about a lot because I don't think 1145 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 7: he's making it to twenty four. But you talk about 1146 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 7: another dude who's violent. 1147 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 11: If he's a right tackle, only if if scouts seem 1148 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 11: the same way you maybe could that be a slide. 1149 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 7: I could be, But then again, what are you gonna 1150 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 7: do if you're the Cowboys? Because belay locked into Terrence Steele. 1151 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 7: I mean it's likely that Lathan for me would be 1152 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 7: we talk about some depth, and this is a guy 1153 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 7: that I know you've written about and he's here in 1154 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 7: Frisco right now for the Shrine Bowl. Then that does 1155 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 7: intrigue me. South Dakota State's Garrett Greenfield, all right, that's 1156 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 7: another big boy talking about fifth. 1157 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 3: Round grade is exactly what I wrote down. 1158 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 7: So that's a guy you talk about depth if you 1159 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 7: don't attack tackle early. But I think he projects to 1160 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 7: me as an ideal backup swing tackle that can possibly 1161 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 7: be a starter for you because he's played the first 1162 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 7: two years he played on the right side, then moved 1163 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 7: over to the left side. 1164 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 3: But powerful punch. 1165 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 7: I mean there are some times he is literally getting 1166 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 7: one hand on an edge and he is dropping to 1167 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 7: the ground. I mean, the dude is violent and strong, 1168 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 7: and to me, the Tanda blocks you're good. He's got 1169 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 7: really long arms. He's an intriguing late day three prospect 1170 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 7: for me. Garrett Greenfield offensive tackle for something. If you're 1171 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 7: looking at him though, as as a potential swing and. 1172 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 3: A possible starter. 1173 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: Later in his career, you may have to go higher 1174 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: than the fifth because those are so valuable and these 1175 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 2: teams value these. 1176 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 3: These tackles so much higher. 1177 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that may be a fourth round guy that 1178 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 2: you just have to take a pick on. 1179 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 9: Can I interest you in a corner? 1180 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1181 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 6: Throw it at it. 1182 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 12: I'm interested. Go ahead. 1183 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:17,479 Speaker 3: Kid. 1184 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 11: Mitchell from Toledo C one, C one, Okay, Mitchell's number 1185 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 11: two for me. 1186 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 6: It's it's roight there. It is right there. I'll give 1187 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 6: you that. It is right there. 1188 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 5: But man, he had an awesome week. He had a 1189 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 5: phenomenal week inmobile tape's good too. Gosh, man, he's funn 1190 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 5: He's a technician. He's not the biggest in the world. 1191 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 5: He doesn't have the longest arms in the world, but 1192 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 5: he's he has that natural corner frame sure, and he 1193 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 5: is a technician. And it's beautiful to see that come 1194 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 5: out of Toledo. 1195 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 3: That's a weak quarterback class. 1196 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 9: Corner corner man, I've seen some good ones. 1197 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 3: There's some good ones. 1198 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 11: Now there's some guys that are kind of slightly built, 1199 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 11: you know what I mean, slight like you know, one 1200 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 11: seventy eight kind of guys. 1201 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, one eighties. You know. 1202 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what. I watched a kid the other night. 1203 00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 9: I don't know if you guys. 1204 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 3: Have done this. 1205 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 11: Oh where'd I go? Where'd my guy go? The Penn 1206 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 11: State corner? 1207 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:04,439 Speaker 14: H King? 1208 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 6: Kaylyn King King? 1209 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, King's interesting. 1210 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean he's five eleven, one ninety one. This 1211 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 11: guy long arms though, Yeah, yeah, he is a Kaylen King. 1212 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 11: If you haven't seen him, take take a peek in him. 1213 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 11: He where's number four for Penn State. But I get 1214 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 11: back to it though, could it could a corner pull 1215 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 11: you off a tackle? 1216 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 14: No? 1217 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 9: Could a corner pull you off the center? Could a 1218 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 9: corner pull you off an edge? 1219 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, he could pull me off an edge? 1220 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 11: Yeah, I see what you guys are doing, which corner 1221 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 11: Like you guys, you guys are looking for a plug 1222 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 11: and play. Offensive alignment is what you're looking for. Yeah, 1223 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 11: that's exactly what I think, because you know that that 1224 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 11: this team knows how to draft plug and play line right. 1225 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 7: But I also think the value matches kind of where 1226 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 7: they're drafting right now. But to your point, if a 1227 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 7: Mitchell slid and I put this in my notes, you 1228 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 7: guys call me crazy. 1229 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 3: He reminds me to Ron Blant, you're crazy. I think they're. 1230 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 7: Similarly in both of their games with the way that 1231 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 7: they attack the football and and their build a little 1232 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 7: bit and the way that they move. I think I 1233 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 7: was like Mitch Dang, there's something about him drawn Bland 1234 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 7: kind of stands out. 1235 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 11: Okay, Mitchell uh from Toledo or Murphy Texas defensive tackle. 1236 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 6: M Oh, that's that's what I'm taking. 1237 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 3: You're taking. 1238 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 7: I'm taking Murphy to me, I think by Murphy's only 1239 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 7: first round defensive tackle. 1240 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 3: I think he goes tough. I think Newton Murphy. I 1241 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't put the first round Murphy. 1242 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 6: I was the first round. 1243 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 2: I do like Sweat a lot as like a like 1244 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: a back in first round guy. 1245 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 11: But Rake in half yesterday was that Arkansas in Arkansasmer, that's. 1246 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 9: A tough one. 1247 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 3: That was Sweat who did that limber? Though? 1248 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 7: Man, he fights and he competes his rear off and 1249 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,439 Speaker 7: he's a little smaller. He's got some limitations, but he's 1250 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 7: got natural leverage for me, like Bowlimmers till he plays 1251 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 7: a three hundred and sixty two pound guys, he sweat 1252 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 7: pretty well. 1253 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 6: What's unfortunate about it? 1254 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 5: On Tuesday whatever day one to practice was he puts 1255 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 5: sweat in the ground. 1256 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the only one. 1257 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 3: We didn't see that. Yeah, that Murphy. 1258 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 6: You see Limmer on his backside. It's just that's tough. 1259 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 12: I got a safety that's interesting me. 1260 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:57,479 Speaker 10: Right now? 1261 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: Can we do it after the we can let's take 1262 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 2: our second break. We're going to continue this conversation. 1263 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 13: Up. 1264 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 3: It's not Bowler. I also want to bring up. 1265 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: Another offensive guard that might be some depth there for 1266 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 2: the Cowboys if they're looking in the later rounds. More 1267 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 2: of the draft show coming up in a matter of moments. 1268 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 15: Hi Drew Pearson, former Dallas Cowboy and now Pro Football 1269 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 15: Hall of Famer. 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Visit Thestardistrict dot com for more info. 1318 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 3: Of course, the. 1319 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 2: Star District hosting the Shrine Bowl tonight, East West Shrine 1320 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 2: Bowl getting started seven o'clock Central Time on NFL Network. 1321 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 3: We'll be out there and we're. 1322 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: Also going to have an extra show tomorrow as well. 1323 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna have an extra draft show at eleven am 1324 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 2: Central time to break down the final senior bull practice, 1325 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 2: get the film in, kind of break that down as well, 1326 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 2: and then of course take a deep dive into the 1327 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl and what happens tonight. We've got Zach Wilchuck, 1328 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,720 Speaker 2: Nick Harris, Brian brought us Ayasha Morrison. 1329 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans. All right, Ayisha, you talked about a safety. 1330 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: I want to hear about the safety you wanted to 1331 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 3: bring up. 1332 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 10: All right, So we last year we realized, like, man, 1333 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 10: Maryland has a nice little. 1334 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 12: Program up there. 1335 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:23,800 Speaker 3: They do a nice shot. 1336 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 12: They're doing up there. They got some tough guys. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1337 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 12: You know where I'm going with this? 1338 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 10: Was this is it bo Bo Brady Bo Brady? 1339 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 6: Okay, it's I watched it. 1340 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 12: It is a dope name. But when I watched him, 1341 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 12: I feel like he gives me those. 1342 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,760 Speaker 10: Brian Branch vibes from last year where it's like, Okay, 1343 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 10: this guy can play close to the line of scrimmage. 1344 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 10: He's heady, he's rangy, he has great instincts. I like 1345 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 10: his reading reaction time. He's not afraid to be a 1346 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 10: blitzer either. I really he's he's stopped versus the run. 1347 00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 10: And I also feel like his I want people worry about. 1348 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 3: His size a little bit Branch too. 1349 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 12: Yeah, but he's so tough. 1350 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 10: He's a little bit of a looney tune and I 1351 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 10: like that about him. What do you think about the 1352 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 10: player I got Brian Branch vised when I watched him 1353 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 10: the first time. 1354 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 12: You just see him everywhere and you like, who is 1355 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 12: this guy? 1356 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 3: One thing I remember about Branch was the corner of 1357 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 3: safety flex. 1358 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 10: Maybe again, I wonder if people worry about him not 1359 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 10: being like he's he's twitchy, but he's. 1360 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 12: Not super big. What did he weigh in at and stuff? 1361 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 5: I don't have that, but I would keep him at 1362 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 5: safety two ten. 1363 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 6: I would keep big enafety. It is big enough. 1364 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 5: I would keep him at safety just because of his instincts. 1365 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 12: And I think Angey too. 1366 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 5: He's long, super rangey, super long. Talking to one of 1367 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 5: the dB coaches that on the team he's on either 1368 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 5: National American, I forget. 1369 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 6: They said. 1370 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,040 Speaker 5: I said, of all the DB's, who's the ones that's 1371 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 5: impressing you the most off the field, And it was 1372 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 5: Bob Brady talk about it. So he's he's impressing them. 1373 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 5: He's impressing teams formal interviews as well. And this is 1374 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 5: a really smart player. And you see that in the 1375 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 5: run game during team drills yesterday, there was a there 1376 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 5: was an opportunity where he was identifying a run play 1377 00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 5: pre snap and already getting a head start, and he 1378 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 5: blew up a gap and would have had a two 1379 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 5: to three yard loss tackle for loss on that play. 1380 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 5: This is I really like Bo Brady when it comes 1381 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 5: to instincts and being able to have that range both 1382 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 5: in the past game but in the run game as well. 1383 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 6: This is a guy I really like. 1384 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 9: To Maryland, he impressed me. 1385 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 15: This coach. 1386 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,840 Speaker 10: They're well coached up there in Maryland. I think we 1387 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 10: got to know that program. We got to give that 1388 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 10: program some credit because they've they've been pushing out some 1389 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 10: good dbs. As far as him, I definitely feel like 1390 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 10: this might be one of the only safeties I've seen 1391 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 10: so far that I think could maybe go late first 1392 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 10: if if people somebody decided to just because of what 1393 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 10: he does in the run game too, Doug, I. 1394 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 12: Mean, you just can't. You can't. 1395 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 10: And he also is effective as a blitzer, so you're getting. 1396 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 12: So much from him. 1397 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 10: I'm curious to see how much insight because. 1398 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 5: I love Cameron Kitchen too. If we're talking late first round, guys, 1399 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 5: I still is good. I'm not completely sold on him 1400 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 5: being a first rounderor just yet. I would love to 1401 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 5: see him move a little bit more at combine. But Matt, 1402 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 5: I love his tape. It's one of the most fun takes. 1403 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 3: And that's interested in Jaden Hicks from Washington State. I 1404 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:15,799 Speaker 3: haven't watched him. 1405 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 11: Yeah, Jayden Hicks about him. Yeah, these are one of 1406 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 11: those players that's always around the ball. You guys need 1407 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,959 Speaker 11: to watch this cat number twenty five at Washington State. 1408 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 11: He's six three's two hundred and ten pounds. 1409 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:28,800 Speaker 9: He makes a ton. 1410 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 11: Of plays where he's at the right place, right time, angles, adjustment, strong, 1411 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 11: aggressive tackler. He's a physical player in every sense of 1412 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 11: the word. He does it back down from any challenges. 1413 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,640 Speaker 11: He'll carry receivers that are faster than him out of 1414 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 11: the slot. He does a great job of the physical 1415 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 11: skills to make stops. He tracks the ball as a defender. 1416 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 11: He gets his eyes around to make plays. He's he 1417 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 11: has no problem matching up with bigger receivers or tight ends. 1418 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 9: It's a high effort. You could tell the game is 1419 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 9: important to. 1420 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 3: Him by the way he plays. 1421 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 11: You can watch his tape, but give Jayden Hicks six 1422 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 11: three two ten pounds, Washington State number twenty five. Give 1423 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 11: him a peak if you can in your scouting world. 1424 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna stay in the secondary. I wanted to 1425 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 5: come back with a full report on Chris Abrams Strain 1426 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 5: after this past week. Was not the biggest fan of 1427 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 5: his as far as tape goes. It was more so 1428 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 5: on the top of route. 1429 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 9: He played better. 1430 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:23,480 Speaker 6: He played awesome yesterday. 1431 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:23,960 Speaker 9: There we go. 1432 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 6: I told Kyle this on. 1433 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 3: The phone and pounds though. 1434 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's physical. He plays so much more bigger 1435 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 6: than that. 1436 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 3: That's good. 1437 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 5: There's a couple of clips on my Twitter IFO take 1438 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 5: take a look at it. 1439 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 3: He had. 1440 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 5: He had a couple of really good reps yesterday. But 1441 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 5: I told this to Kyle on the phone yesterday. If 1442 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 5: he can keep everything in front of him, yeah. 1443 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 3: I like him. 1444 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 5: He's physical, he's he's good with his with his feet 1445 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 5: work once he has to turn his hips and go 1446 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 5: behind him. Yeah, he's a liability, so I think it 1447 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 5: would take a little bit of development in that range. 1448 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 5: That's why I kind of have him as an early 1449 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,439 Speaker 5: day three guy. That's what I put my initial grade 1450 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 5: on him. I'm gonna have to go back now after 1451 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 5: Senior Bowl and kind of reevaluate everything. But I liked 1452 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 5: what I saw from him after not really loving his 1453 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 5: tape going into Senior. 1454 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,919 Speaker 3: He's got a couple of corners you can work on. Yeah. 1455 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 3: Is that teachable though? Like flexible hips. I know we've 1456 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 3: talked about it a lot. That's mom and Dad. 1457 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 9: I feel like that's what you gotta get to, right, 1458 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 9: Mom and Dad. 1459 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 11: You can train for stuff like that and trying and 1460 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 11: work on you know, sometimes some guys are tight that. 1461 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 12: Way, but they're impressing. 1462 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they got that edge that nice didn't have 1463 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 3: a great week. 1464 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,439 Speaker 12: He didn't have a good week. 1465 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 5: I heard question news as well about Cody Schrader, just 1466 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 5: as far as like evaluations from scouts and things throughout 1467 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:35,840 Speaker 5: the NFL. 1468 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 6: So it was a tough It's been a tough. 1469 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 3: David was looking good Kentucky. 1470 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 5: He looked good. He looked really good. I'm not I'm 1471 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 5: not dumping Schraders just yet. I think he's he could 1472 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 5: still be a productive just no, no, no, no, I don't 1473 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 5: think Okay, I don't think so. 1474 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 6: I think it's just a tough week. 1475 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 5: And Okay, Xavier Lagette out of South Carolina that they 1476 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 5: are we're talking a little bit more terminal. He came 1477 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 5: in two inches shorter than expect did, had a really 1478 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 5: rough first day, had a couple of drops. He rebounded 1479 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 5: yesterday with a strong day. I'm not giving up on 1480 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 5: him just yet because I think his his long speed 1481 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 5: is really impressive. Yeah, but I I there's a there's 1482 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 5: a he's dropped. He's dropped considerably shorter than. 1483 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 3: We thought too. 1484 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, he came in two inches shorter than than expected. 1485 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 5: He was supposed to be about six to three came 1486 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 5: in about six foot and five eighths. 1487 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 6: I think is what it what it came in, so. 1488 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 9: Thanks South Carolina. 1489 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're talking about him as like a Debo type 1490 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 5: weapon because he has these thick thighs and he has 1491 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 5: this long speed. It's it's an interesting comparison. 1492 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 9: Based on those Western Kentucky. 1493 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, Malachi Corley as well. 1494 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, a little a little bit shorter on that end, 1495 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 5: but still yeah, very very much same traits. 1496 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:41,959 Speaker 3: I think. 1497 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 5: I think you look at the past couple of drafts, 1498 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 5: teams are trying to find that versatile weapon. 1499 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 6: Use like Debo. 1500 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, and you you you look at you look 1501 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 5: at how teams start to evaluate based on certain players 1502 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 5: that are popping in the NFL, and it's it's a 1503 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 5: fascinating case study. 1504 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,520 Speaker 2: And we were talking in that last segment about guys 1505 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 2: st and out mid round guys that you're talking about 1506 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,480 Speaker 2: the unteachable traits and things like that. 1507 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 3: One of the more viral clips from the Senior Bowl. 1508 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 2: This past during the Wednesday practice was offensive guard I'm 1509 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 2: already forgetting his name, Christian Haynes from Yukon getting his 1510 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: helmet ripped off, but he stayed in the rep and 1511 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 2: he finished through. I'm interested to hear what you thought 1512 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 2: about him. 1513 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 3: You filmed it you filmed it. 1514 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Six two twenty pounds is what he's measured at Yukon. 1515 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Players are not great competition, but in terms of what 1516 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 2: I've seen just in limited tape, I like his footwork. 1517 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 3: He has light feet for a three hundred and twenty 1518 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 3: pound ear over. 1519 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,200 Speaker 5: This was one of the offensive linemen that I watched 1520 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 5: first whenever I started to crack down. Okay, I'm gonna 1521 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 5: start focusing really on draft stuff in like October. Actually, 1522 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 5: I think I mentioned it on the g Bag Show. 1523 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 6: At least once. 1524 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 3: Christian Hayes. 1525 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 5: I like Christian Hanes, I do I and I like 1526 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,680 Speaker 5: that they're using that versatility with him and giving him 1527 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 5: a few center reps this week in Mobile. 1528 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 6: He looks natural doing it. 1529 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,800 Speaker 5: I think there's gonna have to be a little bit 1530 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 5: more mechanic stuff as far as uh snapping the ball goes, 1531 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:06,640 Speaker 5: but I'm not worried about that. 1532 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 6: He looked awesome this week. He's got a great base. 1533 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 6: He's he's got like a thick mid mid section, but 1534 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 6: it works. It works. It's that guard thickness that you 1535 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 6: love to see in the interior. I do too. 1536 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,919 Speaker 5: I want my interior guys to have that thick gut. 1537 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 5: I want them to have a waterburger once or twice 1538 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 5: a week. 1539 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 3: You know. 1540 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 6: I ibper big gut too. Yeah, that's that's the state. 1541 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 2: That's the man I love bigger than than Haines is 1542 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,000 Speaker 2: because from Kansas State is six foot four, three thirty five. 1543 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 7: And he's I mean, he's trying to pull the trifect 1544 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,280 Speaker 7: out there. We're at guard, tackle and center. During his 1545 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 7: time at Case Stage Warsation Flex too, he's. 1546 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Had like two thousand snaps too. He plays. I love. 1547 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 5: I hated that we couldn't see him this weekend Mobile 1548 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 5: that that hurt my hurt my soul. 1549 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 10: But it hurt me last year coming out kid, he's. 1550 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 3: Not Uh, there's plenty plenty to talk about him. We'll 1551 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 3: talk about him tomorrow. How about that, Well, we'll give 1552 01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 3: a Hooper b b rundown. 1553 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 10: Yes, and these gentlemen at the Shrine Bowl because there 1554 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 10: are some sleeper guards. Oh I like this in this place. 1555 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, agree, you talk about it. Seven o'clock tonight, 1556 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl from the Star in Frisco. We'll be there 1557 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 2: to break it down for you tomorrow eleven am Central 1558 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 2: time here on the Draft Show for Zach Waltchuck, Nick Harris, 1559 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Brian bradish I, Easter Morrison, Chris Beam in the back 1560 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 2: of Kyle Yoman saying so. 1561 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,360 Speaker 3: Long, we'll see you tomorrow on the Draft Show. 1562 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1563 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.