1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: What is up, straight Fire? 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 3: I am It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday, 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: May the fourteenth. Oh boy, did we have a night 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: in the association. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 2: I'm not on the hardwood now. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: I did not gamble on the games, but oh my gosh, 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: they were good. We'll talk about them shortly. I do 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 3: need to tell you this got a great guest on 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: the podcast. This gentleman, first time are on the podcast. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: Him and his wife. They had a baby last week 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: and he was still willing to jump on a podcast 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: to talk about that. Dallas Mavericks winning the draft lottery. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: Christian Clark of the Athletic Listen a lot of insight 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: into the MAVs what they might do. He says, no 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: trade for Giannis. 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that. 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent with him, but you know, again, 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: Nico Harrison's unpretty the ble. We don't know what that 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: guy's gonna do. I can't imagine I'm trading Cooper flyag. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: But you'll like the convo with Christian Clark before we 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: get to that. I just think we just briefly have 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: to start with the Indiana Pacers. Who I predict. I 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 3: think I was out on a limb. I didn't see 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: any unter National media folks picked the Pacers to take 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 3: down on Calves. They do it in five games, relatively 27 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: easy fashion. Now that game too, where Hallie hit the 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: step back through over ty jer Rome in a crazy 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: comeback in the final forty seconds. 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: That felt like the dagger. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: Even though the Calves won Game three, they got healthy, 32 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: it didn't matter. Pacers rolled him in Game four and 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 3: what I called the gutlass showing by the Calves, and 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: then he gave five back in Cleveland. Cleveland again up, 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: I think it was seventeen in the first half. Crazy 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: and then Tyre's Haliburton goes off showing, Hey, guys, Donovan 37 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Mitchell is really good. But you know who else is 38 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: I am? I'm him Terry's Haliburton plus twenty last night 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: thirty one points, eight assists, six boards. He was phenomenal 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: and uh oh boy, a little soul searching in Cleveland. 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: I have a stat for you. This one's good. So 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: twenty eight teams in the history of the NBA, only 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: twenty eight have won sixty four or more games in 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: a season. Okay, the Calves are just the fourth of 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: those twenty eight teams to not make the conference finals. Now, 46 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: I know everybody wants to call him a fraudited joker. 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: They did have the injury Darius Garland. Obviously, the toe 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: bothered him. He had another rotten game, four for sixteen 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: over six from three. He was not himself in the series. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: I saw people online calling him Darius Garbage. Felt like 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: that was a little harsh. Obviously, losing Evan Mobley for 52 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 3: a game hurt. He count came back really strong last 53 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: night twenty four and eleven. Mitchell was good, but like 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: thed DeAndre Hunter, I thought he was going to be 55 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: a factor for them, was not. 56 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Max Struse. 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: According to the telecast last night, Max Strus sent out 58 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: a group text message pumping everybody up. If you know, 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: if you don't want this, stay home. Blah blah blah 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: blah blah. Max Strus twenty six minutes, oh for nine, 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: oh for six from three, zero points out there getting 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: some cardio Max Stru's former Miami Heat player. Anyways, the 63 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: Pacers advanced to face the Knicks. I talked a little 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: about that series on yesterday's pod. I think it's I 65 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: think Nicks are gonna be okay. Obviously, Pacers really really good. 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: I like them a lot. 67 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: I had listen back to back conference finals. Is Hella 68 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: good for the Indiana Pacers. And to do it on 69 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 3: Cleveland floor, I mean Nemhard was cooking. Pascal Siakam is 70 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: a problem. I just think the Knicks defensively match up. 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Really well. 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: With the with the Pacers, And I talked about it 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: yesterday Bridges and Anonobi. My guess is they're on Siakam 74 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: and Haliburton. That would be my guest. Now, Miles Turner 75 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: could have a field day, but it's basically two stretch 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: fives in Turner and Karl Anthony Town's edge to the Pacers. 77 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: Bend TJ. 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: McConnell went bonkers last year in the series. It should 79 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: be a good one. Now the nightcap. If you didn't 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: stay up for this, you missed an amazing basketball game. 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: Thunder come out on top one twelve, one oh five. 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: They outscore the Nuggets thirty four to nineteen in the 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Second straight game that Denver flat out ran 84 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 3: out of gas. They led by double digits in the third. 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: I think they led by seven. Okay, See this is 86 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: crazy so Denver in the fourth quarter. It wasn't the 87 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: Oka se defense. Obviously the defense is fine, it's good. 88 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: But Denver was five of twenty one. When Jamal Murray 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: has his hands on his knees and is tugging on 90 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: his shorts with like eight minutes left, He's tired and 91 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: he was out of gas. He couldn't do anything in 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Murray listen man. Murray had a good 93 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: third quarter. I think he had eleven or thirteen points. 94 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: Fourth quarter he had like a garbage time layup. He 95 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: was ten of twenty seven, shooting three of thirteen from three. 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: He had twenty eight points on twenty seven shots. That's 97 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: not gonna cut at Jamal Murray. 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: It's just not. 99 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: Christian Brown couldn't throw in the ocean. Russell Westbrook non factor, 100 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior zero for five from three, had a 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: shot to tie it late. I mean, they just they 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: ran out of gas. They settled for forty six three pointers. 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: And I have in my notes. So in what was it? 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: In Game four? 105 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: The Denver Nuggets shot a season high right, Oh, I'm sorry, 106 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: most threes they've attempted in playoff history in Game four 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 3: that was forty five. They attempted forty six in Game five. 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: They're out of gas, they're tired to attack, and they 109 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: settle for threes. That being said, Nikola Jokic was heroic. Guys, Listen, 110 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: anybody who watches this series knows sure you could give 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: Sga the MVP, but the best player on the court, 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: the best player in the league. 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: And I've been reluctant, you know, I've been a Luca guy. 114 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: Nikolea Jokicic forty four fifteen five assists. He had an 115 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: amazing three in the fourth with the shot clock winding down, 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: like fading off one foot over check. 117 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: It was spectacular to tie it. 118 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh. But then you know, listen, 119 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: they had to end up doubling Shay and uh, what's 120 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: a j Dubb got a wide open three and he 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: hit it. Then Sga hit another three and that was 122 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: it was a rap. But that's a tough one for 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: Denver Man. The bench just not showing a bench game 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: ten points. Peyton Watson I thought had good minutes, good energy, 125 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: but ultimately an impressive comeback win by Okay. See, this 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 3: has taken a lot out of them. You can see 127 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: this team's tired, Caruso showed well off the bench. You 128 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: didn't get much from Wiggins and case on Wallace. I 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: thought the guy here was lou Dort, who was having 130 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: an abysmal series, borderline unplayable in several games in the series. 131 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: The guy errupts. I believe he hit three threes in 132 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. So Denver made five buckets in the fourth. 133 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: Okase made five threes in the fourth. In the first 134 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: three quarters, the Thunder had seven three pointers. They were 135 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 3: not shooting it well, and then they go off for 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: five threes in the fourth and it looks like a 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 3: good shooting performance. 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Of three and there you go. 139 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just an unbelievable turn of events where Denver, 140 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: I think you could make a credible case forget about 141 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: the plus minus because of Game two. Denver was better 142 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: down the stretch in Game one, Denver was better down 143 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: the stretch in Game three, and Denver ran out of gas. 144 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Down the stretch. In Game four and five. They were 145 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: right there, but you get exhausted when you have a 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: bench and stinks. 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: And now the Thunder go to Denver to wrap up 148 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: the series, and likely we're looking at a Pacers Knicks 149 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: conference Finals and a Denver I'm sorry, and at OKC 150 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: Minnesota Conference Finals. 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: Not anybody had that one before the playoffs began. 152 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: All right, without further ado, let's get to our guests, 153 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: the Athletics Christian Clark. 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 155 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 156 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 157 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: listen live. Alright, Jason likes to think he knows everything 158 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to sports. 159 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: I know what sports fans wants, but for. 160 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. 161 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 162 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: guy who knows another guy. 163 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire, a first time 164 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: guest on the podcast, and man he is. This guy's 165 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: going to be the center of attention for I don't 166 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: know what the next at least seven weeks. Christian Clark 167 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: from the Athletic. 168 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: How you doing, man? 169 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: Hey man, I'm doing great. How about you? 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm excellent. You know, I don't cover the Mavericks like 171 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: you do. So the Cooper flag news, the Kyrie Irving injury, 172 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis. I mean, there's so much happening with the 173 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks. I was like, hey, we need to talk 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: to a Mavericks guy, and first of all, talked me 175 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: through the draft lottery on your end. 176 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 2: How did that go? 177 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 5: Well, I actually stayed home. I'll give you a peek 178 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: behind the curtain. My wife and I had our first 179 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 5: kid last week, so I'm technically supposed to be on 180 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 5: a short paternity leave. You know, I wasn't planning to 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: write anything. I was like, all right, they're gonna have 182 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: the the eleventh pick. There's a seventy eight percent chance 183 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: they get the eleventh pick. They need a guard, but 184 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 5: that can wait, you know, wait that cauld wait till 185 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 5: I come back from paternity leaving. You know, we'll we'll 186 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 5: get into the guards. Well that's not what happened. When 187 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 5: they went all the way up to number one, one 188 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: point eight percent chance of doing so, I was sitting there, 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 5: you know, on the couch, My wife baby was next 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 5: to me, and I was like, oh god, they're in 191 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 5: the top four. They got a chance, and you know 192 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 5: they go to break. I'm like, no way, Like, okay, 193 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 5: they're on the top four, but they're they're not one. 194 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 5: They're not one, right, And then it's one. It's like 195 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 5: what what? 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: Wow? So was the wife excited or more perturbed that 197 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: now you have to work? 198 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: Uh? 199 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 2: You know that you guys got a one week old baby. 200 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Congrats on. 201 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 5: Probably more of the former than the ladder. But it's 202 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 5: it's been, you know, a fun but a little bit 203 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 5: stressful time around it. But it's good man, It's it's 204 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: all good stuff. I mean, this this fan base needed W. 205 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to say this franchise. I mean, this 206 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: franchise did need a W, but I wouldn't say that 207 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 5: they deserved a W. 208 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: But they got a W. 209 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: And it is nice that the number one story going 210 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 5: into next season isn't going to be fan discontentment because 211 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: that was a lot of what I covered. You know, 212 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 5: those last for two three months of the season, and 213 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 5: I understand why. I mean, it's it's it was rightful, 214 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 5: justifiable anchor. But it is nice in the number one 215 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 5: story for the Mavericks go on the next season is hey, 216 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 5: how does Cooper f flag fit and do? 217 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 218 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: Well, let's back up before we just dive into the 219 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: roster on Offen stuff. Let me ask you what of 220 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: your dealings with Nico Harrison been like, I mean, this 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: is he's kind of a mysterious figure. He's well known, 222 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: but he doesn't speak a lot. How is he with 223 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: the media, I mean, if you had interactions with him, 224 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: I mean, i know it's been a tough go and 225 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's shutting things down, but just talk to 226 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: me what it's been like before and after the trade. 227 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 228 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: So, I mean I grew up in the Dallas Fort 229 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 5: Worth area, grew up a Mavericks fan, and you know, 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: was a senior in high school and they won the 231 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 5: championship in twenty eleven. So this is a team that 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 5: meant a lot to me. And then you know, I 233 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: did support, decided to pursue sports media professionally cover the 234 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: Pelates for five years for the newspaper and noor On. 235 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 5: So I saw, you know, a lot of s shows. 236 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 5: Well I get here in December and I'm like, all right, 237 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: you know they got Luca, like they're gonna be competing 238 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: for championships going into Christmas. They're nineteen and ten, you know, 239 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 5: number four offense, Number eleven defense, like all the signs 240 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 5: of contender. Luca gets hurt, Nico trades them and it 241 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: just gets weird. I I'm not gonna pretend like I 242 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: know Nico that well. You know, I don't really have 243 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 5: that much of a rapport with him. But you know, 244 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 5: I was there in Cleveland, you know, one of the 245 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: people asking him questions the day after he made the move. 246 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: I was a part of that small round table at 247 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: the American Airlines Center. You know, I was at his 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 5: availability at the end of the season when they finally 249 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 5: opened it up to all the media. I would say, 250 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: I would say, here's what's interesting about the Mavericks. There's 251 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: not that many people who actually know what's going on. 252 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 5: Nico keeps a very tight circle. I would say, there's 253 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 5: there's about four people who actually knows what's going on. 254 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: So if it gets out, Nico's gonna know one of 255 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: these people leaked it, and those people don't. They don't 256 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: leak a lot, gotcha. 257 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: So when you were right, did you get any sense 258 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: at all that there was like some acrimony but between 259 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: Luca and his camp and then the internal Hobnestly, you've 260 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: read all the stuff that's come out, you know, and 261 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: probably written a bunch of it to yourself, But it 262 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: feels like this has been building for a while, or 263 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: at least the trade had. 264 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: You know, I definitely didn't grasp the extent to which 265 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: Nico Harrison was frustrated with Luka Doncic. 266 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: And you know, there was a story I. 267 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 5: Did, you know, with a couple of other writers at 268 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,599 Speaker 5: you at the Athletic right after the trade. It was 269 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 5: the idea was who is Nico Harrison? And you know, 270 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 5: one of the things in there is this guy is 271 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: obsessed with nutrition and fitness, Like he will quiz just 272 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 5: people in his life, what did you eat today? 273 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: Are you eating healthy? You know? 274 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 5: And I just think that he's his idea of what 275 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 5: greatness looks like is is different than you know, Luka Doncic, 276 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 5: like Luca, I think, doing a lot of stuff that 277 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 5: normal twenty five year olds do, you know, like maybe 278 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 5: not the best died in the world all the time. 279 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 5: Maybe likes to have a beer every now and then. 280 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I like to do when I 281 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: was twenty five, you know. And I just think Nico 282 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 5: looked at that and he was like, Okay, well are 283 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: his habits going to change if we pay him three 284 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million dollars. I wouldn't have moved him 285 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have done it. Yeah, but if you're gonna 286 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 5: do it, you have to get everything. And that was 287 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 5: really like the biggest failing. It's like they didn't maximize 288 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 5: the return for you know, this guy who's one of 289 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 5: the best young players ever to me. You know, Nico 290 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 5: is act acted like, well, this was this was just business, 291 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 5: nothing personal. But it's hard not to look at this 292 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: and be like, oh, his feelings got involved here. 293 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: Definitely. Yeah. 294 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: So it's weird because Cooper Flagg seems to fall into 295 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: that bucket of oh my gosh, this guy's a workout warrior, 296 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: insane work ethic all around. I mean he's I believe 297 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: he's nineteen years old, just super young and talented. This 298 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: could not have been better. And remember Nico was kind 299 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 3: of crushed for not getting more draft picks or Austin 300 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: Reeves or whatever in the deal, and now he gets 301 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 3: the number one pick. So I'm assuming the vibe has 302 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: changed somewhat around the team and the fan base and 303 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: everything in Dallas. 304 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the fan base is still pissed. 305 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: It's yeah, I would say it's still pretty divided. I mean, 306 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: look there, I would say there are prominent Mavericks fans 307 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: even today calling for Nico Harrison to be fired. I 308 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: don't think he's going to be fired, you know, before 309 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 5: the start of next season. But I wouldn't say it's 310 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 5: not unanimous, that it's like everything's forgiven now. I think 311 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: a time, you know, things will smooth over a little bit. 312 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 5: I just I don't think we're gonna see, you know, 313 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 5: the vitriol next season that we saw last season. 314 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: But it's still a divided fan base right now. 315 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: M hmm. 316 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: I everybody thinks like, hey, they're gonna they're gonna keep 317 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: Cooper Flagg. But I don't know, nobody has any idea, 318 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: like you said, what this guy's gonna do. 319 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 5: So I would say that I think they are gonna 320 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: keep Cooper Flagg. 321 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: I think I think others have reported it. 322 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: I believe it to be true just from checking in 323 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: to people, like they're gonna take Cooper flag with the 324 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: number one pick. And one thing I'll say here is that, 325 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 5: you know, the Mavericks have a relatively newish majority owner, 326 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: Patrick Dumont. You know, he's connected to the Sans Corp. 327 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: Mark Cuban, you know, was obviously the Mavericks majority owner 328 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: for a long time before you. 329 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: Know, Dumont and Sants took over. 330 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 5: Patrick Dumont is looking at this like, I think this 331 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: is my reading of it. I think he knows it's 332 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 5: hard of farts. We screwed up the Luca thing and 333 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 5: I cannot allow that to happen again, and we have 334 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: to think long term here. So I believe that the 335 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: Mavericks is gonna make this peck and take Cooper flag. 336 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: So you don't think. 337 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: There's a world where they decide, hey, if we can 338 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: get Giannis. Now that's the problem. I'm trying to craft trades, 339 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: and you know, the salaries have to match and all 340 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: this second aprin nonsense. It seems like it's gonna be 341 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: kind of sort of difficult without getting a third team 342 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: involved to get the salaries to match, unless you're coming 343 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: off Kyrie Irving, and nobody's gonna want Kyrie coming off 344 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: an Achilles or party ways with Anthony Davis, who Nico seems 345 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 3: to love. So you never want to say never say never. 346 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: But are you of the belief that Yiannis will not 347 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: be in Dallastic. 348 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 5: Seedson, Yes, I am of the belief that Honest will 349 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 5: not be in Dallas next season. I think it's gonna 350 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: be Kyrie and Ad and Cooper Flaggett that rookie salary. 351 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: I think it's just gonna be the two star model 352 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: in Dallas with you know, Nico trying to put the 353 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 5: right pieces around them. 354 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: See the toughest part of that. 355 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: And I read your piece is that Dallas is gonna 356 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: be going into next season, you know, because Kyrie had 357 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: the injury. Obviously he's out probably until the All Star breakout, 358 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: maybe longer. 359 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 360 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: They have one healthy point guard on the roster, and 361 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: that is a gentleman by the name of Brandon Williams. 362 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 2: Is that the kid from Arizona? 363 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: That is the Brandon Williams from Arizona who is on 364 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 5: a two week deal for most of last season before 365 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: getting bumped up to a standard deal in March. He's 366 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 5: got some game, but it's still like that's the only 367 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 5: point guard. He's gonna be healthy at the start of 368 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: next one. 369 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: Well, wait a second, could super Max Christie? Can he 370 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 3: toggle between point or is he just strictly like a 371 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: slasher wing. 372 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 5: I look at him as more a two than one. 373 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess if you're in a pinch, he 374 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: could do it. But I look at Max Christie, look 375 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: at Jayden Hardy, those those guys, to me, they're more 376 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: shooting guards than point guards. I guess we're in this 377 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 5: positionless era. But that's just the way I look at it. 378 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the roster construction with Ad Gafford, who only 379 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: has one year left on his deal, and Derek Lively 380 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 3: and you add Cooper Flag, that's essentially four bigs in 381 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: what I believe to be a guard wing era, with 382 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: the exception of you know, Yokic. Obviously does that even work. 383 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna have to do something right, They're 384 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: gonna have to get creative with Gafford, Washington, somebody's gonna. 385 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Have to move right. 386 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 5: So I think you're looking at the next move right now. 387 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 5: When when you look at the Mavericks roster, they have 388 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 5: a ton of talent in the front court. Last season, 389 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 5: you know, an idea behind the Anthony Davis trade was 390 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 5: we'll put him at power forward next to one of 391 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 5: our centers, Derek Clively a second or Daniel Gafford, and 392 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 5: we're gonna bump PJ. 393 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: Ford. 394 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 5: You know, probably more of a four down to the 395 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: three down to small Ford. Now they got Cooper Flag 396 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 5: and PJ Washington. They got Anthony Davis, they got Daniel Gafford, 397 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 5: they got Derek Clively. The second I'm looking at that 398 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 5: like there might be too many good players here in 399 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 5: not enough minutes. And when I look at you know, 400 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 5: the rest of the roster, they don't have, you know, 401 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 5: probably enough ball handling creation. As we just hit on, like, 402 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 5: I'm just kind of reading that of like, all right, 403 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 5: one of these guys, you know, Danie Gafferd's got one 404 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: year lifting his deal. 405 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 4: PJ. 406 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: Washington's got one year left in his deal. Is that 407 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 5: one way to go out and address the ball handling situation? 408 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 5: Because remember Kyrie Irving is not going to be back 409 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 5: in the floor until twenty twenty six. I mean, you're 410 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 5: looking at half the season without. 411 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: Your star guard. 412 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 5: I mean, I love Cooper Flag, but he needs he 413 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 5: needs a guard who can create too. 414 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 415 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 416 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 417 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: listen live. 418 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: The roster creation makes it very wonky. 419 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: Do you think that they're gonna be active this summer 420 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: or as Nico, you know, kind of said, we're just 421 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: gonna keep goover Flag. 422 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: We love what we got. We're not gonna We're not 423 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: gonna mess around. 424 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 5: So I mean, look, they're gonna I believe they're gonna 425 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 5: draft Cooper Flag. But I mean, active is Nico's middle name. 426 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 5: You know, I think without I would have to double 427 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 5: check us in Basketball Reference. But I believe he's made 428 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 5: sixteen trades since he became the Mavericks general manager in 429 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. There's one player who's still in the 430 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 5: roster from when he took over. That's Dwight Powell, Who's 431 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: you know, like your fourth big men. It's possible going 432 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: into the next season with no players on this team 433 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 5: who were there before Nico. So yeah, I mean the 434 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: guy loves to do trades. He'll trade anyone. No one's safe. 435 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: We learned that in February. 436 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: What do you make of Klay Thompson's first year in Dallas. 437 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: I know you said you arrived in December, but like, 438 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 3: I don't know, just obviously the injuries have taken their 439 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: toll on him. 440 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: And he didn't get too many games. 441 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: With Kyrie and Anthony Davis if any, I'm just curious 442 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: your thoughts on Klay Thompson. Does he fit with this 443 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: team with all these bigs and no no point guard. 444 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 5: I think that he does because they're still pretty reliant 445 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: on his three point shooting. I mean, you know, I 446 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: like one of the like the stats to know from 447 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: the Mavericks last season is after they sent Luke out 448 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 5: and it was Anthony Davis for the those last ten 449 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: games or so. You know, I believe they were last 450 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 5: in the NBA and three point attempts, three point percentage, 451 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 5: they were. 452 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: Super low and three. 453 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: So you know, this is a team without Luca that 454 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 5: just does not have a ton of outside shooting. It's 455 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: obviously something that Clay does. I was impressed by what 456 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: he did last season. He just kept playing through all 457 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 5: the bs. I mean, he signed up to play with 458 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 5: Luca and Kyrie and compete for a championship. 459 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: Like I think. 460 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 5: The thing I love about Clay is that he's he's 461 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 5: accomplished so much, he has nothing left to prove, and 462 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 5: he still wants to win so badly. Like I was, 463 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: they were at points last season because of because of 464 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 5: health and you know, bad trades. They had like seven 465 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: active players for some games, eight active players, Like I 466 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 5: was in San Antonio in March and they're fighting for 467 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: a play and spot, and Klay Thompson is one of 468 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 5: those guys, and he's with a bunch of two way 469 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 5: guys out there. 470 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: You know, they're grinding out. 471 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: And the win over the Spurs in March, and they've 472 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 5: got seven eight active players. Like, say what you want 473 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 5: about Hey, he's not as athletic as he was after 474 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: two major surgeries all these seasons in the league. 475 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: But I mean, guy wants to win. 476 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 5: That's that's the thing I admire about him. 477 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: A rank for me. 478 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: Going in well, I guess going into the offseason most 479 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: interesting teams in the state of Texas the Dallas Mavericks, 480 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: the San Antonio Spurs who have the second pick, which 481 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, give me a break, and Wemby 482 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 3: obviously coming back, and the Houston Rockets who made the 483 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: playoffs and appear to be the front runners, and the 484 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: Jannis Sweet Stakes. 485 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a tough one. Texas basketball just got fascinating. 486 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 5: I don't even know how he'd ranked that, and you 487 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 5: know we just talked about, Hey, I don't think Giannicis 488 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 5: is going to be a Maverick. Maybe I'll look foolish, 489 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: but that that's what I truly believe. I mean, if 490 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 5: I had to, if I had to pick two teams, 491 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 5: I do think he'll be on. I think it would 492 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 5: either be the Rockets or the Spurs. You know, I 493 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 5: mean these guys, these teams have draft draft ass sets. 494 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 5: The I mean the i it's a particular ton of 495 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 5: young talent that they could they could put on the table. 496 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: And you know, if you're the Bucks, I mean, how 497 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: do you value Harper? 498 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 4: Right? 499 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 5: I mean the Spurs have the number two pick, Like quietly, 500 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: they've had incredible lottery luck in the past few years, 501 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 5: not just Wemby but Castle. This number two pick. I mean, 502 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 5: how do the Bucks value Dylan Harper? Because if they 503 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: think he's going to be a stud it's like, okay, 504 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 5: you know that's something to think about. Yeah, I like, 505 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 5: I didn't think that Dylan Harper is going to be 506 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: better than like read Shepherd or a'm and Thompson. I 507 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 5: mean a'm and Thompson is so good that he looks 508 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 5: like Houston, would you. 509 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 4: Know, not want to do that. 510 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 5: But it's like I kind of wonder what Milwaukee's thought 511 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: processes of like Harper, Shepherd and Thompson. 512 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: How do they feel about all those guys? 513 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you said you covered the Pelicans for five years? 514 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Was eighty? 515 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: They're already left. 516 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 5: I started right after the Anthony Davis trade, right when 517 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 5: they got Zion. 518 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: I did. 519 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 5: I did the entirety of the Zion era up till December. 520 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: Interesting, so, Cooper Flag. 521 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: We had this fun debate on the pod who had 522 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 3: a better first year at Duke Zion or Cooper Flag? 523 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: And I thought Zion probably won the highlight portion of it, 524 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: but statistically it appears Cooper Flag was better. 525 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: I loved Zion coming out. 526 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know he would, you know, just eat his 527 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: way out of the league and being a superstar and 528 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: mess around off the court. I'm just curious, do you 529 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: you saw that up close? Can Zion be salvaged at 530 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: this point? 531 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 5: That's that's a great question. I don't think it can 532 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 5: be salvage in New Orleans. If it's ever gonna get better, 533 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: I think that he's gonna need a change of scenery. 534 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just my honest opinion. 535 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: It did raise my eyebrows that he was the team's 536 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 5: representative at the draft lottery on the stage because there 537 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 5: have been a ton of smoke of Hey, Pelicans ownership 538 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: is done with this guy. They want to move on 539 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: from him. You know, that was in the least an 540 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: attempt for the Pelicans to say, not so fast. You know, 541 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: we'll see. I still think that was a good chance 542 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 5: he could get traded this summer. 543 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: I think it. I think it's possible, it's salvageable. 544 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 5: But I mean the off the court stuff is is 545 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 5: just not great. 546 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 4: You know. That's the thing that chocked me too. 547 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 5: I thought, like Cooper Flag, the word everyone uses intangible, 548 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 5: It's like, this guy's got a great motor, he's got 549 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 5: a great work ethic. 550 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: People thought that about Zion coming out of the draft. 551 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 5: A great kid, hard worker, you know, Coach k loves him. 552 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 5: I mean, this stuff is is hard to predict. But 553 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 5: it's kind of crazy that we thought the stuff about Zion. 554 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 5: It's like, that's just not what it was. He got 555 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 5: the money and then he you know, that was kind 556 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 5: of enough for him. I don't think that was yeah good. 557 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 2: How was he the cover? 558 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: He's a very nice person, he honestly is. I just 559 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 5: think he, you know, like many young men, makes some 560 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: bad decisions from time to time. I made many yeah, 561 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 5: and you know, I mean, look, he is a physical anomaly. 562 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 5: It's like an SEC defensive lineman shaped guy should not 563 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 5: have a fifty inch vertical And it's like, you can 564 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 5: do all these things to try to prevent injuries, and 565 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: he could be doing a whole lot more. Like, don't 566 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 5: get me wrong, there's a whole lot more he could 567 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 5: be doing. If I was him, I would get on 568 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 5: like the Gavon Loodie, I'm doing hot yoga six days 569 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: a week, train Like I think he needs to be 570 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 5: all in on flexibility and everything, and I think he 571 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 5: doesn't do that and he'll never do that. But at 572 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 5: the same time, it's like he could do all this stuff, 573 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 5: and it's like there just shouldn't be a guy built 574 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 5: like that who can jump as high as he can. 575 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I brought up Zion because this whole like 576 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: who's the neck the face of the NBA. I largely 577 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: think it's Goofy, but there is something to hey man. 578 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: International players have taken over this league, Yo, kicch Giannis, Wemby, 579 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: on and on. They all they're all winning the MVP 580 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: Awards and you know, Luke of best Player in the 581 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: league whatever, and they're the American players have largely you know, 582 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Jahn Morant supposed to have next, he's been a disaster 583 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: off the court. 584 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 2: Zion Williamson, same deal. 585 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: I'm wondering, is it too much of a burden to 586 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: put that on Cooper Flag at this age? 587 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: Man? 588 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 5: You know, It's like I'm looking at Anthony Edwards right 589 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 5: now too. I know he's said in the past he's 590 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: like I don't want it, but it's like maybe it's yours, 591 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: Maybe it's yours. 592 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: I even well, he's also had some issues off the court, 593 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: you know that. 594 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 5: He has he has, but he plays and you know, 595 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 5: I can't miss tw I mean, they might go to 596 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 5: the finals this year, you know, I mean they might 597 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: be the like this might break it away where it's 598 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: like Anthony Edwards is an NBA champion at what is 599 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 5: he twenty four years old or whatever he is. I 600 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 5: think it's a little premature to do that to Cooper Flag. 601 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: I think Cooper Flagg is awesome. Like I had an 602 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 5: you know, executive state of me today, like he reminds 603 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: me of Scottie Pippen. I've been in the game a 604 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 5: long time and it's like that's like makes me say 605 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: what what like we're thrown around Scottie Pippen. 606 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: Wait in a good way or not? Great? 607 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Good? 608 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that's to me, that's super 609 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: high praise. 610 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Scotty Piple like legend. 611 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 5: Here's here's my thing on Cooper Flag. I love him. 612 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: Let's see how find and polish the offensive game is. 613 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: Like I think he's gonna immediately contribute to winning, but like, 614 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: can he be your primary creator on the offensive end? 615 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 5: I don't think right now? Maybe in time he can, 616 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 5: But I guess that's my that's my question mark about him, 617 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: because it's just like Luca. Luca can be your offensive 618 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 5: engine and get you to the finals. That's proven, right, 619 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 5: Like do you, I mean, I'm curious your thoughts on this. 620 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 5: Do you think Cooper Flag could be that guy right now? 621 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 5: Or do you think he can in time of just 622 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 5: be you know, the the offensive engine on a team 623 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: that gets to the finals. 624 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So this is where the discussion gets complicated because like, 625 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: all right, Cooper Flag at eighteen obviously cannot right, I 626 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: would agree with you, I don't think he can be that. 627 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: But my counter to be to you would be, well, 628 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 3: did we see Yannis at eighteen Could he do that? 629 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 2: Of course not. 630 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: You'll catch you at eighteen, no way. And like I 631 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: like to look at guys as not what they are, 632 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: but what they can be. And like, I hear your 633 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 3: Scotti Pippen, and that's great that the executive thinks that 634 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: I saw. 635 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: The measurables are similar. 636 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, I see kind of a Kevin Garnett 637 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: And people are like, oh, Jason, you're crazy, and I'm like, well, 638 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: remember when Kevin Garnett came in. 639 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: He was rail thin, he was you know, not. 640 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 3: Really offensively polished, but he had that motor and the 641 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: drive and the desire and the tenacity defensively, and he 642 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: became an MVP and a champion. And that's the more 643 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: of the track I see Cooper flag on like a 644 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: Kevin Garnett type track. Then Pippin's more of a I 645 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 3: don't know, do you remember you're a young guy man, right, 646 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: So Scotty Pippen came in the league and he was like, okay, 647 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 3: he's all right, he's a decent sidekick. And then playing 648 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: alongside Jordan, he became a star and on his own 649 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: was a star. 650 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 5: But my cup is a younger guy is san Antonio 651 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: Choi Leonard. That's that's what I see the most. I see, 652 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: yeah for Cooper, and I see I see why people 653 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 5: think a little Kevin Garnette, especially the the intensity, the 654 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: ferocity as a competitor. You know, I totally see that. 655 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 5: But I see like younger Kawi Leonard and san Antonio. 656 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: Interesting And when people hear that, they're gonna be like, oh, 657 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: come on, Kawhi Leonard. No way, Like guys, I know 658 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: people said Cooper folded against Houston. It wasn't totally on Cooper. 659 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: The team let him down when coach was terrible. Sorry 660 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 3: John Shire. 661 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: But the reality is like Kawhi Leonard didn't. 662 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: He didn't get to the final four in college and 663 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: he was I think a sophomore junior at San Diego State. 664 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 3: It's just weird when people mention flag they need to 665 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: remember he's I think still. 666 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: Eighteen years old now currently. 667 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: Right turned eighteen in December. 668 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 5: I mean, he was seventeen at the start of that 669 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: college season when those clips were going around with him. 670 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 5: You know, on TMOSA Select team kind of the TMOSA 671 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: JV team. They played against the Tmosa team that won 672 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: gold in Paris. Like he was seventeen, you know, pulling 673 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 5: up in Anthony Davis's grill, splashing threes. 674 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, running everybody. 675 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: You know, sick putbacks like he was doing. He was 676 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 5: wilding people at seventeen, you know, against the best of 677 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 5: the best. 678 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 679 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: By the way, we could wrap up with this like 680 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: what kind of availability will you or any reporter have 681 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: with Anthony Davis or since the season's over, is it 682 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: just like, hey, we'll see you training camp, because I 683 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: would love to hear ads thoughts on playing Cooper Flag. 684 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: I could probably dig up quotes from that, but you're 685 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: you I totally forgot about that. 686 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: Flag went total tote with him. 687 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: I would. 688 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: I would love to get that perspective too. I think 689 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: you know something I'm gonna try to work on the 690 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 5: summer is just get some guys who were on that 691 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 5: select team. And if I can t busa select might 692 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 5: be a little bit easier, you know, it might be 693 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 5: easier to get like Trammurph, the Anthony Davis. 694 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: But yeah, I would. I would. 695 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 5: I would love perspective from guys who were eating the gym, 696 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: you know, during that time last year in Las Vegas, 697 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: because he clearly made an impression and. 698 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: I mean the guy's special though. The the thing I 699 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: love about him most is just the motor. 700 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: I mean, like would he when he injured his left 701 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 5: ankle in the a CC tournament. When I saw that, 702 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: I was like, that looks horrific. He's not going to 703 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: play in the NCAA tournament. Like he's a number one pick. 704 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: Why would you come back? 705 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: And it's like, yeah, not. 706 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 5: Only does he come back, I mean he killed during 707 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 5: the tournament. That that said a whole lot to me 708 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 5: of he comes back quickly. I think eight days from 709 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 5: that awful left ankle injury and killed him. 710 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Christian Clark, great stuff. 711 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: The Athletic covers, the MAVs, congrats on the new baby, 712 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: and just b my only piece of advice, not that 713 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 3: you asked for it or need it. 714 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: Just listen to the wife, you know. I it's the 715 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: easiest way to do that. 716 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can do that. 717 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: I can do that, all right, man, Take it easy.