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Speaker 1: Of us back in the studio today. We're hanging out.
Speaker 1: Life is good.
Speaker 3: A lot of changes for this Cowboys organization that we've
Speaker 3: kind of been charting the last couple of weeks, but
Speaker 3: it seems like some things are finally coming into fruition
Speaker 3: here for the team. So we're going to talk a
Speaker 3: little bit about some of the coaching additions and some
Speaker 3: coaches have recently got some promotions and that kind of thing,
Speaker 3: so we'll talk about that. But the first thing I
Speaker 3: want to start with is this Kicker drama. It is
Speaker 3: very apparent and Jerry Jones actually told reporters that they
Speaker 3: were starting from scratch when it came to the kicking position.
Speaker 3: We all know the way this season ended for Brett
Speaker 3: Maher not so much on a high note there. The
Speaker 3: Cowboys have since taken matters into their own hands. They
Speaker 3: have signed Tristan Viscaino. They signed him late last night.
Speaker 3: We will see if he makes it through training camp.
Speaker 3: I believe this is his second time going through this process,
Speaker 3: but as of right now, he has been signed to
Speaker 3: the roster. A couple of things before we open this
Speaker 3: up for conversation now, he was signed to the practice
Speaker 3: squad earlier this year. Whenever Brett first had those issues,
Speaker 3: We watched him at practice a little bit and he
Speaker 3: wasn't incredibly.
Speaker 1: Impressive during the time that we watched.
Speaker 3: Obviously, we get limited sessions, so he could have obviously
Speaker 3: turned it up after that and in the week's prior.
Speaker 3: But it'll be interesting to see, you know, is he
Speaker 3: a permanent fixture. Is this they're putting their eggs in
Speaker 3: his basket or they bringing him in as kind of
Speaker 3: a competitor piece. So he'll be an interesting guy to
Speaker 3: follow throughout this offseason and then into training camp. But
Speaker 3: a couple of things on Tristan. He was signed to
Speaker 3: the practice squad as I mentioned he was kicking for
Speaker 3: the Patriots last year. He was two of two in
Speaker 3: his field goals three of three on Pats in Arizona
Speaker 3: prior to that, and then before that, he's kind of
Speaker 3: been bouncing around the league. He was with the Chargers
Speaker 3: for six games in twenty twenty one. I had a
Speaker 3: really good season with the forty nine Ers back in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, so he has the ability to kick.
Speaker 1: But we will see, ladies. This obviously means.
Speaker 3: That the Cowboys are pretty much out on Brett Maher.
Speaker 1: Are we happy about that?
Speaker 3: Give me your initial thoughts on no more money Maher
Speaker 3: in Dallas?
Speaker 4: Go ahead. I noticed.
Speaker 5: It's my bread and butter.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm so on the fence about this because
Speaker 6: I was really impressed with the season overall that Brett
Speaker 6: Maher had. But again, it is excusable the way things
Speaker 6: kind of ended for him.
Speaker 5: So I do.
Speaker 6: Understand the reason in wanting to, you know, maybe move on.
Speaker 5: I guess it's just it makes me so nervous.
Speaker 6: It really does, because you look back to last season
Speaker 6: and training camp and how all of this really came
Speaker 6: to be, and it's funny how things shifted.
Speaker 5: Because correct me, if I'm wrong.
Speaker 6: But Tristan was one of the candidates vying for that
Speaker 6: kicking position back in training camp and it was a mess.
Speaker 3: I remember the kicking situation was a mess. I love
Speaker 3: being in Miami and just watching it from AFAR and being.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, all of the tweets coming out, all of
Speaker 6: the videos of I mean, there were balls going to
Speaker 6: the side and the trees and the stands, like nothing
Speaker 6: was going through where I needed to go through.
Speaker 5: So it makes me nervous.
Speaker 6: It really makes me nervous because what I've heard of
Speaker 6: Tristan is exactly what you said. It's not the best,
Speaker 6: it's not, you know, maybe the most impressive, but light
Speaker 6: at the end of the tunnel guys and some silver lining.
Speaker 6: We were saying that about Brett ma Her last year.
Speaker 5: During training camp.
Speaker 6: Was Hey, this guy gives us a little bit of
Speaker 6: trauma coming back up because of how he left the
Speaker 6: first time and then look at this season he had.
Speaker 6: So I have nothing but faith in the special teams
Speaker 6: coaching to maybe coach this guy up a little.
Speaker 5: Bit and where he needs to. So I'm torn.
Speaker 7: No, I agree to like they at least they're starting
Speaker 7: kind of early, you know, as far as like trying
Speaker 7: to figure it out and bringing someone in here that
Speaker 7: has some experience. Like you said, you like, I don't
Speaker 7: know if he, Haley, I don't know if he is
Speaker 7: a permanent guy, but he is a gentleman that has
Speaker 7: some experience that is gonna push whoever is whoever else
Speaker 7: is gonna be in competition. So this this, this camp
Speaker 7: will on this training style, training stuff, this coaching staff.
Speaker 7: Last year, they really like competition from other positions. So
Speaker 7: maybe it's just like, let's bring a guy in here
Speaker 7: that experience, that has competition. And it's weird because when
Speaker 7: you read his numbers and you go look at his numbers,
Speaker 7: you say, oh, this guy's he's been efficient, Like he's
Speaker 7: been efficient in a few times he's kicked, but how
Speaker 7: obviously you ask the question of how is he going
Speaker 7: to be over a prolonged period of time.
Speaker 4: So interesting to say the least. I'm just again, like
Speaker 4: you mentioned, we didn't know that.
Speaker 7: Kicking was We knew it was an issue, but we
Speaker 7: didn't know it was that bad until camp. Yeah, so
Speaker 7: at least now they're trying to get someone in here
Speaker 7: and kind of get something established beforehand.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 3: It's just one of those things where it's like, dang,
Speaker 3: you know, because kicking. I've always said this, kicking is
Speaker 3: like the one position I think on the field that
Speaker 3: is unforgivable, yes, right, And I think really close second
Speaker 3: to that is the cornerback or the secondary because you know,
Speaker 3: like you're set up for failure in those situations. But
Speaker 3: when it comes to being a kicker, you don't get
Speaker 3: the chances that a lot of these other positions have.
Speaker 3: You know, like think about where Jerry was whenever Brett
Speaker 3: first missed that kick against Washington, right, Like, Jerry already
Speaker 3: was like, hey, man, like, what we're not going to
Speaker 3: do is this?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I wish you would say that line exactly.
Speaker 5: I would love to hear, you know, say.
Speaker 3: Like he was already feeling it after one miskick. And
Speaker 3: when you think about what Brett did for this team,
Speaker 3: I mean I was looking at his numbers last night.
Speaker 3: He was ninety point six percent made field goals in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, ninety four point three percent.
Speaker 1: Of those pats.
Speaker 3: And I'd like to know, you know, the numbers even
Speaker 3: before the last three games of the season.
Speaker 1: I imagined it was up there ninety five percent, you know,
Speaker 1: or higher.
Speaker 3: So it's just tricky when you think about, you know,
Speaker 3: the work he put in. I remember when he was
Speaker 3: sitting down with us on the radio show that I'm
Speaker 3: now Cowboys Hour.
Speaker 1: I was like, what was that show called? It's been
Speaker 1: so long since we did it.
Speaker 3: But when he sat down with us on Cowboys Hour,
Speaker 3: with me and Brad Sham and we were we were
Speaker 3: talking with him and just the level of intensity that
Speaker 3: he was at then, you know, he was talking about how,
Speaker 3: you know, this was an exciting part of his career.
Speaker 3: He was trying to figure out, you know, from a
Speaker 3: family perspective, you know, because his family doesn't live here
Speaker 3: right now, because you know, its temporary, you know, so
Speaker 3: he's trying to figure out, like, is my family going
Speaker 3: to move here? Like am I finally in a place
Speaker 3: where you know, I'm I'm gonna be a Dallas cowboy
Speaker 3: for a while. So it's really frustrating just from that
Speaker 3: frame of mind to see where he was three months
Speaker 3: ago even and now when you think about he's back
Speaker 3: job hunting and listen, I don't think he'll be you know,
Speaker 3: for lack of a better term, unemployed for very long. I
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of teams in the league that
Speaker 3: need good kickers. Brett is a good kicker, so he'll
Speaker 3: get picked up and maybe he gets resigned again. You know,
Speaker 3: there's still plenty of time to bring him back. He's
Speaker 3: one of those free agents on that lengthy list.
Speaker 1: So that's really interesting. I also thought this was interesting too.
Speaker 3: This is the second straight season where the Cowboys have
Speaker 3: cut ties with a kicker after one year. They did
Speaker 3: it the year before with Greg Zerline after he missed
Speaker 3: six pats and six field goals.
Speaker 1: Oh that is egregious. So I can't believe Greg.
Speaker 6: Greg the leg And I did want to correct myself
Speaker 6: because I was going back to look in my notes.
Speaker 6: It was Jonathan Gary Bay and the ram Hira Lahu
Speaker 6: that they had in training camp last season, and then
Speaker 6: Brett Maher came in and everyone goes, oh no, the
Speaker 6: world kind of stopped for a second when whenever every
Speaker 6: all Cowboys nation found that out.
Speaker 5: But I was glad that Brett was able.
Speaker 6: To turn that that view of himself around throughout the season.
Speaker 5: But I'm so torn about this.
Speaker 6: Because makes you look at the you look at the
Speaker 6: start of the season and Brett Maher's leg was the
Speaker 6: reason really the Cowboys were able to win, especially when
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush was first coming in to be adjusted to
Speaker 6: the offense and then Dak was out. So it's it's
Speaker 6: just it really is not fair to discredit the success
Speaker 6: he had because of how things ended. But I do
Speaker 6: understandably get why they would be quick to be like, Okay,
Speaker 6: you're out.
Speaker 5: You you didn't do it when it mattered the most.
Speaker 5: And I get that. I get both sides.
Speaker 4: A flu Sorry, it's such a fluid thing.
Speaker 7: GEK, Like we're gonna look, we're gonna look at so
Speaker 7: many guys and be like he got signed again, Like
Speaker 7: I mean, or you're gonna look at some some guys
Speaker 7: in the league right now that have been playing for
Speaker 7: a while. I think there's a couple of guys that
Speaker 7: have been here for a minute though, that exactly that
Speaker 7: are gonna be free agents, and you're they might get
Speaker 7: picked up even after.
Speaker 4: Having not not such gray seats.
Speaker 7: It's such a like I said, it's like a fluid
Speaker 7: thing to where a lot of teams are like, well,
Speaker 7: I can just go find somewhere, I can go find
Speaker 7: one somewhere else. But at the same time, it's like
Speaker 7: it's so important, so how can you? But I just
Speaker 7: think that's how the position's kind of been handled. And
Speaker 7: it's kind of like what you say for me one time,
Speaker 7: shame on you for me too, Like it's it's it's
Speaker 7: the thing. What happened with Brett is similar to like
Speaker 7: the Cowboys saw it the year before, Like, well not
Speaker 7: the year before, but a couple years ago. It was like,
Speaker 7: he's great, but then you get those extra points and
Speaker 7: it's like he's he's just cocking it and.
Speaker 4: He's just like, what are you doing? Like it's so weird.
Speaker 7: It's so weird how it happened for him, And I
Speaker 7: do agree that it's I don't know, a bittersweeten the
Speaker 7: sense of like, dang, he has such a good season
Speaker 7: and to finish it like that and that just be
Speaker 7: it is is disappointing, But I guess it's just a
Speaker 7: part of the game.
Speaker 3: Because that's that's what everyone's gonna think of him as, right, Like,
Speaker 3: nobody's gonna remember the fact that he banged out back
Speaker 3: to back sixty yarders against the Vikings at halftime to
Speaker 3: put that game pretty much to bed.
Speaker 1: You know, no one's going to talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that he was a.
Speaker 3: Perfect for for four I believe it was against Washington
Speaker 3: and helping up the Cowboys beat the Commanders in that
Speaker 3: you know, second game with.
Speaker 5: Cooper or nine of eleven from fifty yards or more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like basically being one of the best kickers and
Speaker 6: Cowboys franchise.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then he won since the game, like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it wasn't it. It wasn't a lesson and so he Yeah,
Speaker 7: he was.
Speaker 4: A huge part. But that's another thing too, is like
Speaker 4: I I don't I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know how it is in a locker room
Speaker 7: too much, but I do understand, like you also don't
Speaker 7: want the team to lose confidence in the kicker also too,
Speaker 7: because there were instances at the end you're like, go
Speaker 7: for two, go for two, And that's a that's a
Speaker 7: tough situation to be in as an offensive player.
Speaker 4: You go all the way down the field, you need points.
Speaker 7: Then your kicker like to stay grounded and he's gonna
Speaker 7: make it next time, he's gonna make it, and then
Speaker 7: he's not making it the next time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's panic that sits in for an offense. I'm sure.
Speaker 7: So it's it's like Actress bones Fossil actually one of
Speaker 7: the guys is actually returning. Crazy, Yeah you look crazy,
Speaker 7: you know you look crazy, but he's returning this year.
Speaker 4: So yeah, kicker is.
Speaker 7: One of my things I'm really looking at in camp
Speaker 7: because it can make or break your team in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Clearly, yeah, clearly there was a little bit of optimism.
Speaker 3: And this is why I say I don't see him
Speaker 3: having any issues getting resigned somewhere else, because you know,
Speaker 3: the extra points were the issue. It wasn't the field goals, right,
Speaker 3: He wasn't missing field goals. He was missing extra points.
Speaker 3: So I think the silver lining in that is at
Speaker 3: least in that San Francisco game, you saw that extra
Speaker 3: point hooking left. Regardless of him who got blocked or not,
Speaker 3: that was not it wasn't going in. Yeah, but the
Speaker 3: field goals were going in. And if I'm weighing, if
Speaker 3: I'm weighing here, this is a guy where he's going
Speaker 3: to spend all of off season, I imagine kicking nothing
Speaker 3: but extra points, getting you know, mentally right in that aspect,
Speaker 3: and at least he's not having to worry about the
Speaker 3: missed field goals.
Speaker 1: So positive for him there.
Speaker 3: We obviously wish brat nothing but the best if he's
Speaker 3: back at some point. You know, obviously we'll cross operates
Speaker 3: when we get there, but just some interesting things going
Speaker 3: on before we get into the coaching.
Speaker 1: I think we're going to do that in the second block.
Speaker 3: But I want to ask you, ladies, obviously that kind
Speaker 3: of feels like a dramatic move almost for a guy
Speaker 3: who was such a contributor on offense and he's not returning.
Speaker 3: Where are some other positions you maybe see on this
Speaker 3: team where you can kind of go, Like, personally, I
Speaker 3: don't want him to go, but maybe for the good
Speaker 3: of the team, we maybe need to do some evaluating.
Speaker 1: Oh god, I know this's tough question. I can talk
Speaker 1: about it first if y'all want me to.
Speaker 3: But I just think that there's kind of been seeing
Speaker 3: I was watching yesterday how the Titans were kind of
Speaker 3: operating right, and the Titans are letting go of a
Speaker 3: lot of veteran guys that I'm looking at contributors.
Speaker 5: I know, like a free agency is how many days
Speaker 5: March fifteenth.
Speaker 3: But the Titans are an organization where you know, they
Speaker 3: cleaned house, they got rid of their GM earlier in
Speaker 3: the year after they got smoked by what's his name?
Speaker 3: AJ from the Eagles. I always get him in AJ
Speaker 3: Green and AJ Brown mixed up, but A J. Brown
Speaker 3: had the Titans in a tail spin when the Eagles
Speaker 3: played them back mid season. They got rid of their
Speaker 3: GM after that game. Now they're clearing house, getting rid
Speaker 3: of veteran offensive linemen. They released Robert Woods obviously, but
Speaker 3: to me, that's kind of signs of like they're serious
Speaker 3: about getting better. And sometimes I think that's why I
Speaker 3: don't envy being in the front office, because I'm not
Speaker 3: the one that's having to make those emotional decisions. And
Speaker 3: I think that there's a couple of guys on this
Speaker 3: roster here that emotionally I don't want to see them
Speaker 3: go right, But maybe for the good of the team
Speaker 3: and looking forward to what you need to get to
Speaker 3: that championship level, you've got to make those decisions.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean I guess you say, like can
Speaker 7: you get can you get better at that position?
Speaker 4: Like can you get better at certain positions? And so
Speaker 4: I don't know I was going to ask you.
Speaker 7: You know, since you you know, your man's like a
Speaker 7: Miami Covers guy and everything.
Speaker 4: Listen, listen, put yourself together too early? Anymore. It is.
Speaker 4: But I've just been seeing a little bit of.
Speaker 7: The conversation about Byron Jones possibly being somebody that's gonna
Speaker 7: be a casualty or cap casualty.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 7: From the Dolphins he's dealt with, you know, some hip
Speaker 7: injuries and some injuries lately or whatever. However, is he
Speaker 7: still an upgrade to you know, maybe your cornerback three year,
Speaker 7: your cornerback two, or just a depth piece that you
Speaker 7: can bring in. That's and I always me personally, I
Speaker 7: truly wanted to see him with this coaching regime, with
Speaker 7: this with this Cowboys, yes, okay, with the Cowboys defensive
Speaker 7: coaching regime, with Al Harris, with the Joey Junior, with
Speaker 7: the with the gentlemen that were brought in after pretty.
Speaker 4: Much after he he was he was gone.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would like to see how he plays with them.
Speaker 7: And then you brought up the Titans, like my guy
Speaker 7: sky Walker Steele a shout out to him, a easy sports.
Speaker 7: He brought up David Long Junior that plays for the Titans.
Speaker 7: Linebacker Anthony Barr felt like what he did here was
Speaker 7: Admiral Bull is helpful, But at the same time we
Speaker 7: saw very clearly that in coverage that people took.
Speaker 4: Advantage of that spot.
Speaker 7: And also too, you want to upgrade at the linebacker
Speaker 7: position because it allows Micah to be free and do
Speaker 7: what he wants to do. Late Vander USh is a
Speaker 7: guy that we are very confident and he played well,
Speaker 7: But can you.
Speaker 4: Get better there?
Speaker 7: Can you get I mean, because the Cowboys could sign
Speaker 7: him back, obviously can He's familiar with the system and everything.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you can get better there, let's
Speaker 4: do it. Let's you know, let's do it. So I'm
Speaker 4: those are the two spots.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 4: I'm like, maybe you can continued to upgrade.
Speaker 7: I haven't seen a lot of offensive linemen, but that
Speaker 7: would be nice.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, Yeah, let's go ahead and take our first break.
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Speaker 3: So we were talking a lot about the kicking situation,
Speaker 3: a lot of changes coming to this organization. Of course,
Speaker 3: those changes started right after the Cowboys lost to the
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers. They made six coaching changes before eventually
Speaker 3: seven with Kellen Moore leaving for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So a lot of changes that.
Speaker 3: Have gone around, and the Cowboys have kind of started
Speaker 3: finalizing that list. They have added a couple of new
Speaker 3: guys on Wednesday that were promoted, so Scott Tolzien, he
Speaker 3: was moved from offensive assistant to the new quarterbacks coach
Speaker 3: Jeff Blasco who was the offensive line assistant coach. He
Speaker 3: is now the running backs coach, which, by the way,
Speaker 3: the old running backs coach Get Pete was hired in Tampa,
Speaker 3: so good for him. Coach Pete was always good to us.
Speaker 3: And then Canon Matthews got promoted to assistant defensive back coach.
Speaker 3: He was doing some quality control on defense. So just
Speaker 3: some promotions going on. There a lot of still moving
Speaker 3: and shaking. I think there'll probably be a couple more
Speaker 3: HighRes before the end of the week, and then we
Speaker 3: will get a chance to hear from Mike McCarthy for
Speaker 3: the first time next week at the NFL Combine. But
Speaker 3: for the changes that are happening, you know right now,
Speaker 3: and we've talked about this on the show before, it
Speaker 3: really feels like this is a Cowboys organization that is
Speaker 3: ready to get past the hump we've talked about in
Speaker 3: seasons past where it's kind of been a lot of
Speaker 3: talk and not a lot of action on the back end.
Speaker 3: But I feel like Jerry knows that that he has
Speaker 3: something really special here and he's got to do what
Speaker 3: it takes to get them to.
Speaker 1: That next level.
Speaker 3: So I kind of just want to talk about some
Speaker 3: of the coaches who have been promoted, if there's any
Speaker 3: guys that stand out to y'all or your thoughts just
Speaker 3: on I know you mentioned earlier how they're starting early.
Speaker 3: You know, what does this kind of how does this
Speaker 3: kind of impact the off season with them getting to
Speaker 3: work so quickly.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's when you go ahead and get
Speaker 7: the coach and stuff in here. This is similar to
Speaker 7: it's kind of similar to when Mike McCarthy, Dan Quinn,
Speaker 7: those guys came in that offseason. It was early, like
Speaker 7: it was far before the draft, it was. And that's
Speaker 7: partially because that allows these guys to get in here.
Speaker 7: And these are gentlemen that are familiar to Mike McCarthy
Speaker 7: as well, so these are some of his gentlemen. But
Speaker 7: they can come in here and they can establish like, Okay,
Speaker 7: so what's our identity?
Speaker 4: Were gonna be what are we going to do?
Speaker 7: And that, in turn, to me, is gonna trickle down
Speaker 7: to setting expectations of what who's doing what you know.
Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy talked about delegating to.
Speaker 7: You before, and I just think it's important for the
Speaker 7: team but also for well for the coaches, but for
Speaker 7: the team the players as well, to kind of know
Speaker 7: what the expectation is and going into the draft having
Speaker 7: your staff together, I think it is power in my opinion.
Speaker 7: I think it really is power. Not trying to play
Speaker 7: catch up after the fact. Guys know what their jobs
Speaker 7: are and what you're going to be looking for. How
Speaker 7: that can impact how you draft, so you're drafting the
Speaker 7: right guys for your locker room. And so even with
Speaker 7: like the most exciting thing for me, and it maybe
Speaker 7: not super exciting, but Blasco is it?
Speaker 4: How do you say his first name, Jeff Blasco?
Speaker 7: Just there being a run game coordinator, like there being
Speaker 7: a somebody that is like we're solely granted, like Joe
Speaker 7: Filman was the on line coach, but this guy has,
Speaker 7: you know, insight on like how we're going to run
Speaker 7: the ball. And we've seen with Mike McCarthy, I think
Speaker 7: he did work with Mike McCarthy Blascow before.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys were guys that were with Yeah, so.
Speaker 7: There's familiarity there with him, and he's getting guys in
Speaker 7: here that he's comfortable with. I don't know nothing about
Speaker 7: Scott told me, like most of us have been trying,
Speaker 7: Like I know he was a former player, but we
Speaker 7: don't really know what to I don't know what to
Speaker 7: expect there. But the blasco thing, him being an actual
Speaker 7: run game coordinator and a running back coach is interesting
Speaker 7: to me because I know that the emphasis of running
Speaker 7: the ball and running it well is important to this
Speaker 7: team moving forward. So yeah, I'm interested in what's gonna
Speaker 7: happen with these shindlemen being here.
Speaker 6: I like the idea of this Mike McCarthy culture spreading.
Speaker 6: Haley and I were talking about how our windshields are
Speaker 6: cracked and how when when.
Speaker 4: It started to get out.
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, girl, that rock that it was a
Speaker 6: rock and you know, I'll tell you later.
Speaker 5: But the point.
Speaker 6: Is is when you see this coaching reign of Mike
Speaker 6: McCarthy starting to spread quickly throughout really this building, I
Speaker 6: think what it does for really everybody has created this
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy culture, which you saw more of last year
Speaker 6: and you've seen on the up and up since he
Speaker 6: came in twenty twenty, which was a very weird year.
Speaker 5: We all know that you.
Speaker 6: Can't really start your coaching brain in that way, and
Speaker 6: since then, I think Mike McCarthy has taken leaps and
Speaker 6: bounds to establish what he wants and set those expectations
Speaker 6: and set those identities. I also really appreciate a guy
Speaker 6: who will move people up within his own staff to
Speaker 6: give them promotions if you will, where they're deserving, and
Speaker 6: he knows their strengths already, as those coaches, those players
Speaker 6: already know them.
Speaker 5: They're familiar.
Speaker 6: There's no time to have to sit there and kind
Speaker 6: of play ketchup of oh.
Speaker 5: Hi, how are you nice to meet you? You're my coach.
Speaker 6: Now. There's already that respect factor there for what they're
Speaker 6: saying because they've been around these guys.
Speaker 5: So I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 6: But I think what you're seeing is you're seeing the
Speaker 6: final seal, if you will, of the Mike McCarthy culture
Speaker 6: in this team, because I mean, he's bringing in guys
Speaker 6: he knows, guys he trusts, and to be honest, if
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy trusts these guys, I do too, And maybe
Speaker 6: that's bold to say, but I have nothing but faith
Speaker 6: in Mike McCarthy and how he runs this team because
Speaker 6: it was incredible to watch last year. I can't imagine
Speaker 6: when he has guys that he has full confidence in
Speaker 6: knows can get the job done.
Speaker 5: It's going to be special.
Speaker 3: Your question when you said you had no idea about
Speaker 3: Scott toles In, I did a deep dive. I'm currently
Speaker 3: on Wikipedia. I was at the knap Scott tolls In.
Speaker 3: He is a former American quarterback who is now a
Speaker 3: coaching assistant for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We know he is the quarterbacks coach.
Speaker 3: He played football at Wisconsin, but he was an undrafted
Speaker 3: free agent. He got signed by the Chargers back in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven, and he spent time with the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 3: the Packers, and the Colts. He was a two star
Speaker 3: recruit out of Illinois in high school. It reminds me
Speaker 3: a lot of Kellen Moore, and I'll be interested to see,
Speaker 3: you know what his skill set and how he's able
Speaker 3: to work with guys like you know, Dak and Cooper
Speaker 3: if they resigned, obviously, but I'm also interested to see
Speaker 3: what he works.
Speaker 1: Like with Will Greer.
Speaker 3: I know that you know this past season was just
Speaker 3: a learning opportunity for a greer and you know, getting
Speaker 3: to learn from a guy like Dak Prescott or even
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush. I think that combination is really good to
Speaker 3: kind of pick their brain from. So we'll see what
Speaker 3: he can do with the quarterbacks and how he works
Speaker 3: with ness Meyers or not ness Meyer.
Speaker 4: He just left.
Speaker 1: Who's the new OC? Shotty? Thank you the last time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, their last names are kind of tricky boat something
Speaker 3: else that I think, And you were talking in length
Speaker 3: about Mike, and I get that. I think he's done
Speaker 3: a tremendous job with this organization, but I think this
Speaker 3: also could kind of be a make or break here
Speaker 3: for Mike as well. You know, those conversations have been
Speaker 3: happening for the last two seasons now. The positives is
Speaker 3: that he has continued to improve. But again, I think Jerry,
Speaker 3: and I think a lot of the leadership guys on
Speaker 3: this team are to the point where they're like, look,
Speaker 3: we cannot.
Speaker 1: Keep wasting that really show me.
Speaker 3: We cannot keep on saying that we're it and then
Speaker 3: we're not. And so I Jerry, I think, is finally
Speaker 3: hearing that. I believe that he's kind of like all right,
Speaker 3: like time to put up or shut up and listen.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mike has done anything wrong.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting to see how he calls
Speaker 3: plays and how that makes things different. I'm actually interested
Speaker 3: to see if that is even something that they continue
Speaker 3: to go forward with or if it's just something where
Speaker 3: they're saying right now, we don't know, but we're going
Speaker 3: to default to Mike as the play caller.
Speaker 6: I also think, though, as long as you're the Cowboys
Speaker 6: head coach and you're not going past a certain point
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, you're always going to be questioned if
Speaker 6: you're not exactly yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, how many.
Speaker 6: Years with Jason Garrett did everyone sit here and say, oh, it's.
Speaker 5: His job on the line every every off season. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's so wild the day after loss.
Speaker 7: And understated and it's wid era Cowboys fans are I
Speaker 7: really do?
Speaker 4: I think that Jason.
Speaker 7: Gear Eric really gay Cowboys fans like I need to
Speaker 7: go see my therapists.
Speaker 4: But I'm so glad that you mentioned the locker room.
Speaker 7: I'm so glad that you mentioned just like you two
Speaker 7: years in a row, it is what it is, two years.
Speaker 3: In a row.
Speaker 4: Your office couldn't get it done and your defense was
Speaker 4: more than capable, more than capable.
Speaker 7: And so I am one of the people who really
Speaker 7: think it's important for your locker room to stay together,
Speaker 7: for your offense, for you to show the aggressiveness and
Speaker 7: the want to change on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 7: Because it's staggering that it's it's similarly happened, similar things
Speaker 7: happen in the playoffs two years in a row. I
Speaker 7: think it's important that they address it and go forward
Speaker 7: for the team, and also just the camaraderie of the team,
Speaker 7: Like I really do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have to, I mean yeah.
Speaker 6: What you don't want is you don't want another stagnant
Speaker 6: timeframe where you look back years later and say, Okay,
Speaker 6: when when should I have made this move happen? When
Speaker 6: how long was too long to keep people here that
Speaker 6: weren't making it happen. So what I really appreciate about
Speaker 6: what we've seen so far this off season is, you know,
Speaker 6: some of these coaching changes may have come to a
Speaker 6: shock as a shock to us on the outside, but
Speaker 6: really when you look at it, it's it's interesting to
Speaker 6: see who was on there make it or break it
Speaker 6: year This season, you know, I know Kellen was the
Speaker 6: biggest one that we were all talking about, but it's
Speaker 6: interesting to see kind of how quickly that moved along.
Speaker 6: And what I think is a good new pattern to
Speaker 6: see is these things are happening quickly. Like you mentioned
Speaker 6: to your point, Aisha, is these are happening. These things
Speaker 6: are happening quicker than I feel like they were in
Speaker 6: past years. It wasn't a hold on until the very
Speaker 6: last second kind of thing with Kellen. It was all right,
Speaker 6: we didn't make it happen next and not that brutal. Right, Like,
Speaker 6: I'm sure it was not that brutal, but it's I
Speaker 6: like the speed that they're going with this. They're not
Speaker 6: wasting time. It was very much so turn the page.
Speaker 6: We need to focus and kind of revamp things here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of.
Speaker 3: The players, we just got to push alert from me
Speaker 3: espn Ceedee. Lamb apparently got a massive back tattoo and
Speaker 3: I'm looking at it. I don't know if we can
Speaker 3: show our viewers though the tat it's pretty intense.
Speaker 1: It looks like he got it done while he was
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: But he said out, yeah, that looks like it hurts
Speaker 4: the commitment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is I'm looking at it that I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: like to say.
Speaker 3: On there, there's like a some kind of big cat,
Speaker 3: like a jaguar or a leopard. On the left. It's
Speaker 3: got Kobe Bryant on it, top of it says my
Speaker 3: story Isn't over forty five logo on there as well,
Speaker 3: there's a Warner Brothers logo and a Spartan helmet, so
Speaker 3: a lot of things, a lot of his favorite Yeah
Speaker 3: that's creative, yeah, yeah, yeah. So obviously always a guy
Speaker 3: who's feeling. He's feeling himself.
Speaker 6: Clearly to hear like backstories of tattoos, and even when
Speaker 6: you just see the guys in the locker room, you
Speaker 6: can see some of them and sometimes I'm like, what
Speaker 6: is that one mean?
Speaker 5: Look at that one?
Speaker 4: Look at him becoming a number one?
Speaker 7: That's not what they you notice what they do the
Speaker 7: leg tag du the arm and then they show everybody
Speaker 7: like look, look this is what you want will see
Speaker 7: when I'm on the field.
Speaker 4: But is this there?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Problem please, it's me.
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Speaker 3: Well Ladies off season typically means things are pretty slow.
Speaker 1: There's a saying though.
Speaker 3: For the Cowboys is that there's no off season for
Speaker 3: America's team, which has kind of been true. It's been
Speaker 3: fabbin and shaken when it comes.
Speaker 1: We talked about the coaching.
Speaker 3: Changes, naturally, some roster changes are coming soon. But the
Speaker 3: big thing right now, franchise tag period has opened. And
Speaker 3: I kind of have to do some digging always when
Speaker 3: it comes to talking about the franchise tag, just because
Speaker 3: I have to like remind myself, like, you know, what
Speaker 3: are the intricacies of it, because it is a little
Speaker 3: bit difficult. And essentially what a franchise tag is is
Speaker 3: that a team can take a guy that they know
Speaker 3: they want on the roster, but they can't quite get
Speaker 3: to a long term deal.
Speaker 1: So they give a guy a franchise tag.
Speaker 3: It allows them to continue those negotiations without having to
Speaker 3: worry about spending a ton of money upfront. Dalton Schultz
Speaker 3: was the guy who was on the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: This past season.
Speaker 3: It is not necessarily player friendly because it does not
Speaker 3: allow those players to speak.
Speaker 1: To other teams. Unless I believe that it is.
Speaker 3: A non exclusive franchise tag, then players can obviously have conversations.
Speaker 3: There's implications that we won't have to get too much
Speaker 3: into details about, but naturally a franchise tag, typically teams
Speaker 3: are going to do the exclusive tag because they want
Speaker 3: to make sure that they can keep those players on
Speaker 3: their roster at as much of a minimum cost as possible.
Speaker 3: As he mentioned, obviously, Dalton Schultz played on that tag
Speaker 3: this past season. He was making a fully guaranteed ten
Speaker 3: point nine since he made it through the season and
Speaker 3: some of those other checkpoints that he made. And there's
Speaker 3: a couple of guys on this roster that are free
Speaker 3: agents that could hit that free agency tag this year.
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz is a guy who could be retagged if
Speaker 3: they get there to it. If they retag him, they
Speaker 3: would have to sign him at thirteen million. That would
Speaker 3: be his franchise tag cost. Some other guys that I'm
Speaker 3: going to list out and I just want to open
Speaker 3: the floor to y'all and just you know who do
Speaker 3: we think it's that tag? But some other guys that
Speaker 3: have been talked about so far in this offseason. Tony
Speaker 3: Pollard is the biggest one. He is also, for lack
Speaker 3: of better term, the cheapest option to tag him at
Speaker 3: ten point one million.
Speaker 1: That's eight hundred.
Speaker 3: Thousand dollars less than Dalton Schultz tag last year. Who
Speaker 3: else is on that list? Layton vander ash I don't
Speaker 3: see a world in which this happens. If you tag Layton,
Speaker 3: you owe him twenty point nine million dollars, So I
Speaker 3: don't really see that happening.
Speaker 1: But I obviously see.
Speaker 3: Value in keeping Layton vander esh on this roster. So
Speaker 3: that's a guy to where it's an option, but I
Speaker 3: don't see it happening. And then you have Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 3: who I also think is an interesting option as well.
Speaker 3: You tag him at fourteen point five million, or you
Speaker 3: can hit him with the transition tag at eleven point nine.
Speaker 3: My question for you, ladies, of those four players, who
Speaker 3: is the most important guy that you want on this
Speaker 3: team no matter what, and would give that tag to
Speaker 3: keep them around for at least one more year. We're
Speaker 3: not talking future long term, but just for this upcoming season.
Speaker 3: Who's the guy, if any, that she would tag to
Speaker 3: keep around.
Speaker 6: I think the obvious answer is Tony Pollard. There's okay
Speaker 6: to me, that's the obvious one. And there's the reason
Speaker 6: everybody's talking about it because logistically, it makes the most sense. Costwise,
Speaker 6: it makes the most sense, and just the season he's had,
Speaker 6: the importance he has on this offense. Aisha brought this
Speaker 6: up against the forty nine ers. You saw the Cowboys
Speaker 6: unravel without Tony Pollard. You saw it with your own eyes, everybody,
Speaker 6: So you need Tony Pollard back on this team.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 6: What will be interesting is I think it's Tony Pollard
Speaker 6: or no deal, because yes, get him his get him signed,
Speaker 6: get him back.
Speaker 5: But if you don't have to use that.
Speaker 6: Franchise tag, then don't I think logistically, price wise, if
Speaker 6: it's not Tony Pollard, don't use it.
Speaker 5: So I'm going Tony Pollard.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be basic with that answer because it just
Speaker 6: makes the most sense. Bring TP back because you need him.
Speaker 6: You absolutely need Tony Pollard back. And a lot of
Speaker 6: people have been bringing up, well, the ankle injury is
Speaker 6: not going to impact anything. I don't think so, because
Speaker 6: it's not like this is a nagging injury that he's.
Speaker 5: Had to break.
Speaker 6: It's it was a bad hit happened once. And we've
Speaker 6: talked about many times on this podcast alone how great
Speaker 6: this medical staff is here to rehabbing players and bringing
Speaker 6: them back to their fullest extent to be healthy. So
Speaker 6: I'm going TP or no deal. I feel like I'm
Speaker 6: playing deal or no deal.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think I would agree.
Speaker 7: It's like, as much as I love Dono, like the Cowboys, don't.
Speaker 4: They value safety. Maybe they value it a little.
Speaker 7: Bit more, but I don't know if they valued enough
Speaker 7: to tag him or nothing. And I thought you made
Speaker 7: a really good point just of like it's either you
Speaker 7: tag him or you just you know, just sign him,
Speaker 7: Like don't don't don't touch the tag if you don't
Speaker 7: have to, maybe you can just come to a legitimate deal.
Speaker 7: But a lot of the things when you bring up
Speaker 7: Tony Pollard, I mean you look at the running back
Speaker 7: room here.
Speaker 4: I mean, Malik Davis is a guy. I think he's
Speaker 4: a guy.
Speaker 7: He's gonna be a player, But a lot of the
Speaker 7: conversations being like is he gonna come back? Is he
Speaker 7: not gonna be back? And when you look at that
Speaker 7: side of things, to just go into the next season,
Speaker 7: yeah you could draft a running back. Yeah you could
Speaker 7: bring a guy in here, and I think you could.
Speaker 7: But at the same time, just to come go into
Speaker 7: next season with no veterans like no guy that's been
Speaker 7: here before and done it before. It's something I'm like
Speaker 7: shaky about, but I would definitely say at this point,
Speaker 7: I would say, is Tony Pollard if you're gonna do
Speaker 7: it or not?
Speaker 4: And also too, he's with Tony Pollard.
Speaker 7: It's interesting because all the things that you kind of
Speaker 7: worry about with a running back, he don't have a
Speaker 7: lot of tread on them tires, Like, he hasn't played
Speaker 7: a whole bunch, so you some of the things you
Speaker 7: kind of worry about with like, Okay, if I franchise
Speaker 7: tag him, is he gonna have longevity this next three
Speaker 7: years or whatever the case may be, feel like it's
Speaker 7: less of a concern because he has not played a
Speaker 7: craptn or he has not taken a ton.
Speaker 4: Of snaps in the NFL.
Speaker 7: So I'm on the fence about do you use the
Speaker 7: tag and I'm not at this point.
Speaker 3: I think it all boils down to the Ezekiel Elliott decision, right,
Speaker 3: if you keep Zeke around, the contract is obviously going
Speaker 3: to have to be restructured, and I think that's just
Speaker 3: the reality of the business side of this game. He
Speaker 3: obviously brings value to the field, and I believe it's
Speaker 3: really challenging for people who don't spend time in this
Speaker 3: building talking to the guys, talking to the coaching staff,
Speaker 3: understanding the decisions that go into keeping both Tony and Zeke.
Speaker 3: And it's wild because you know, like I'll have conversations
Speaker 3: with like random people that I see out and you know,
Speaker 3: they'll they'll.
Speaker 1: Ask, you know, like what to do with Zeke? What
Speaker 1: are we doing?
Speaker 3: And again, like people just don't recognize the value that
Speaker 3: he that he brings to the table. You know, oh,
Speaker 3: he's washed, he's not scoring well actually, like there was
Speaker 3: a streak where he scored a touchdown in ten eleven
Speaker 3: street games.
Speaker 5: And it's not you being a homer just trying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just facts.
Speaker 3: Do I agree he's not the same Zeke that came
Speaker 3: into the league. But I think that's the challenging part
Speaker 3: of being a running back in the NFL right now
Speaker 3: because you're expecting your running backs almost to come in.
Speaker 1: You give them these.
Speaker 3: You know, three year contracts, these five year contracts, whatever
Speaker 3: it is. You come in, you absolutely get what you
Speaker 3: can squeeze out of them, and then it's like all right,
Speaker 3: onto the next And that's kind of the way that
Speaker 3: the NFL is shifting, right, Like you're not seeing a
Speaker 3: ton of you know, long term running backs like you
Speaker 3: saw with like Emmitt Smith or you know some of
Speaker 3: these guys who you know were back in the day
Speaker 3: those Bruisers. So it's challenging because you know, you I
Speaker 3: want them both back on the roster again. Like I
Speaker 3: just think there's so much value in having a Zeke
Speaker 3: and a Tony, Like once they started utilizing that run game,
Speaker 3: it was, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 1: It was a great asset that you didn't see a
Speaker 1: lot around the league. It was unique to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: The issue that I see with tagging, and I don't
Speaker 3: know that issue is the right word. The issue that
Speaker 3: I see though with Tony is if you don't tag him,
Speaker 3: he's out right like he's gonna go somewhere else, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Because the Eagles are going to
Speaker 3: see that Tony Pollard is available and they're going to go, hey, Tony,
Speaker 3: we'd like to give you this, you know, three year,
Speaker 3: fifteen million dollar.
Speaker 6: You know deal, and Tony's going to go They did
Speaker 6: with DeMarco Murray, right, And it's just always tried to
Speaker 6: be the Cowboys and.
Speaker 3: Obviously that's just like it's an example. But so it's tricky, right,
Speaker 3: So if you don't tag him, I don't see a
Speaker 3: world in which the Cowboys would match whatever somebody else
Speaker 3: will offer to bring him back. Now, if you do
Speaker 3: tag him, you obviously run into the issue of what
Speaker 3: is he going to be?
Speaker 1: You know, the same guy. I know you talked about
Speaker 1: the injury.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys have really great medical staff, but a broken
Speaker 3: legs a broken leg, and it's we saw how Michael Gallup.
Speaker 3: It took him all year to adjust and he still
Speaker 3: wasn't back to one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: So now you've got a guy where, let's say you
Speaker 1: do eliminate, eliminate it's a horrible word.
Speaker 3: Let's say you do not re sign Zeke right or
Speaker 3: restructure his contract or whatever it is. Now you've got
Speaker 3: a guy to where like he's going to spend all
Speaker 3: the off season rehabbing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll come back fine, but you.
Speaker 3: Don't know the mental hurdles or even some of the
Speaker 3: physical setbacks that he's going to have from having that leg.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely tricky.
Speaker 3: But I do like what you said about you know,
Speaker 3: if you don't tag him, don't use.
Speaker 8: It at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do kind of like that.
Speaker 3: I would personally give it to Donna if they don't
Speaker 3: do Tony, just because I feel like Donna was a really.
Speaker 1: Important part of the team.
Speaker 3: But all of these guys are guys that I'd like
Speaker 3: to see back here long term.
Speaker 6: I also think too, when you look at how the
Speaker 6: run game was maybe not used to the full extent
Speaker 6: this season, going back to this whole Zeta conversation, it's
Speaker 6: so frustrating to me because you don't really know what
Speaker 6: Zeke is still capable of because you didn't see the
Speaker 6: run game when you needed to the most. I mean really,
Speaker 6: there were times where yes, you saw the run for
Speaker 6: a little bit, and then the run was gone, and
Speaker 6: then you have Dak throwing for how many plus yards
Speaker 6: over and over and over and over, and you're relying
Speaker 6: on on the pass game more than the run game here.
Speaker 5: So for me, when people talk about, oh.
Speaker 6: Zeke is washed, get rid of Zeke's it's just not
Speaker 6: a valid conversation because you really don't know how much
Speaker 6: he can be utilized. Still, you didn't see enough of
Speaker 6: him this season to be able to say that. So
Speaker 6: I'm more excited to see, you know, if Zeke does stay,
Speaker 6: if Tony Poller does stay, how that one two punch
Speaker 6: can be utilized to the full extent, and that will
Speaker 6: trickle back down to Dak feeling more comfortable with the
Speaker 6: run game. You're going to see, you know, that offensive
Speaker 6: line holding up, which will be another interesting conversation there
Speaker 6: as well, and how that's going to look next season.
Speaker 5: But it's a trickle effect.
Speaker 6: And so I think what people fail to realize is
Speaker 6: what you saw from the Cowboys run game wasn't necessarily
Speaker 6: a game plan that was working for the run game,
Speaker 6: even though that was their identity, it wasn't what they
Speaker 6: were sticking to for most of the season.
Speaker 5: So if anyone saying Zeke is washed, don't come at
Speaker 5: me with that.
Speaker 7: Because he's really banged up to I mean, honestly, if
Speaker 7: we're being just completely honest about this last two years
Speaker 7: in particular, you didn't see him decline and play I
Speaker 7: guess until he was banged up, until he was dealing
Speaker 7: with knee stuff even last season, like he was killing it,
Speaker 7: and then he had the knee injury, and then this
Speaker 7: season also too.
Speaker 4: It was early in the season. I'm not mistaken his
Speaker 4: knees got banged up. Yeah, the Lions game. And so
Speaker 4: when you the Lions, but when you talk about I knew.
Speaker 7: But but then also to talk about Tony Pollard possibly
Speaker 7: coming back if you do franchise tag him, if you
Speaker 7: are trying to convince him to come back, I know
Speaker 7: for a fact that he is going to hopefully with
Speaker 7: this new coaching regime. Want to know how much am
Speaker 7: I going to be utilized and how am I going
Speaker 7: to be utilized? Because it was criminal that he wasn't
Speaker 7: used in the passing game as much as he should
Speaker 7: have been. It was it was so just the the
Speaker 7: running back conversation is like who's who's coaching, how they're coaching,
Speaker 7: how these guys are going to be active. But to
Speaker 7: your point with Zeke also too, I've seen him he
Speaker 7: teaches also, he talks to these guys. He's selling them
Speaker 7: like even Tony, He's selling them like, hey, lean here
Speaker 7: and this is going.
Speaker 4: To open up for you here.
Speaker 7: There's some experience with him that that I think obviously
Speaker 7: gets undershadowed, you know, by him not playing well in
Speaker 7: the moment or whatever. But I do think he has
Speaker 7: been very healthy for this locker room. It's been a
Speaker 7: pleasure to be able to meet him as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 3: He's one of the first guys whenever I moved here
Speaker 3: that was polite to me, that spoke to me. So again,
Speaker 3: this is this is the hard part of our job
Speaker 3: is you know, getting to know these guys on such
Speaker 3: a personal level, right, and we're having to say like, yeah,
Speaker 3: calm down, pipe down, We understand what you said, but
Speaker 3: pipe down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Gee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it will be interesting to see. Like I
Speaker 3: said at the top of this block, the franchise tag
Speaker 3: window opened on February twenty first, it will The deadline
Speaker 3: to tag players is March seventh, at three o'clock.
Speaker 1: So obviously they have a little bit over about a week.
Speaker 3: And a half to get some of those negotiations and
Speaker 3: decisions made, so continue to monitor that. This will be
Speaker 3: our last show though for a couple of weeks. Aisha
Speaker 3: and I are headed to the Combine next week, so
Speaker 3: we are so excited to be bringing us some cool stories.
Speaker 3: I know, Jess, we'll be holding the fort down for
Speaker 3: us back here hanging out getting some good stuff. We
Speaker 3: will be back in a couple of weeks to talk.
Speaker 3: Girls talk, boys talk.
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