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We're hanging out. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:43.840 Life is good. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.239 A lot of changes for this Cowboys organization that we've 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:49.159 kind of been charting the last couple of weeks, but 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.080 it seems like some things are finally coming into fruition 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.440 here for the team. So we're going to talk a 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.000 little bit about some of the coaching additions and some 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.120 coaches have recently got some promotions and that kind of thing, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:03.600 so we'll talk about that. But the first thing I 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.959 want to start with is this Kicker drama. It is 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.520 very apparent and Jerry Jones actually told reporters that they 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.160 were starting from scratch when it came to the kicking position. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.640 We all know the way this season ended for Brett 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.080 Maher not so much on a high note there. The 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.920 Cowboys have since taken matters into their own hands. They 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.720 have signed Tristan Viscaino. They signed him late last night. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.600 We will see if he makes it through training camp. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.760 I believe this is his second time going through this process, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.000 but as of right now, he has been signed to 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.480 the roster. A couple of things before we open this 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.880 up for conversation now, he was signed to the practice 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.440 squad earlier this year. Whenever Brett first had those issues, 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.640 We watched him at practice a little bit and he 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.559 wasn't incredibly. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.600 Impressive during the time that we watched. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.840 Obviously, we get limited sessions, so he could have obviously 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.560 turned it up after that and in the week's prior. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:59.560 But it'll be interesting to see, you know, is he 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.200 a permanent fixture. Is this they're putting their eggs in 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.240 his basket or they bringing him in as kind of 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.440 a competitor piece. So he'll be an interesting guy to 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.560 follow throughout this offseason and then into training camp. But 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.800 a couple of things on Tristan. He was signed to 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.760 the practice squad as I mentioned he was kicking for 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.960 the Patriots last year. He was two of two in 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:23.519 his field goals three of three on Pats in Arizona 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.600 prior to that, and then before that, he's kind of 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.640 been bouncing around the league. He was with the Chargers 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.000 for six games in twenty twenty one. I had a 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.640 really good season with the forty nine Ers back in 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.000 twenty twenty, so he has the ability to kick. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:39.079 But we will see, ladies. This obviously means. 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.880 That the Cowboys are pretty much out on Brett Maher. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.040 Are we happy about that? 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.320 Give me your initial thoughts on no more money Maher 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:47.080 in Dallas? 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:48.519 Go ahead. I noticed. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:50.520 It's my bread and butter. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.079 You know, I'm so on the fence about this because 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.200 I was really impressed with the season overall that Brett 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:02.080 Maher had. But again, it is excusable the way things 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.839 kind of ended for him. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:05.040 So I do. 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:09.760 Understand the reason in wanting to, you know, maybe move on. 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.959 I guess it's just it makes me so nervous. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.920 It really does, because you look back to last season 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.839 and training camp and how all of this really came 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.760 to be, and it's funny how things shifted. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.160 Because correct me, if I'm wrong. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.400 But Tristan was one of the candidates vying for that 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.440 kicking position back in training camp and it was a mess. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.920 I remember the kicking situation was a mess. I love 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.480 being in Miami and just watching it from AFAR and being. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.040 Like, yeah, all of the tweets coming out, all of 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.680 the videos of I mean, there were balls going to 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.520 the side and the trees and the stands, like nothing 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.440 was going through where I needed to go through. 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.240 So it makes me nervous. 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.680 It really makes me nervous because what I've heard of 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:53.920 Tristan is exactly what you said. It's not the best, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:58.800 it's not, you know, maybe the most impressive, but light 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.240 at the end of the tunnel guys and some silver lining. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.320 We were saying that about Brett ma Her last year. 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:05.760 During training camp. 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.040 Was Hey, this guy gives us a little bit of 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.240 trauma coming back up because of how he left the 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.480 first time and then look at this season he had. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.240 So I have nothing but faith in the special teams 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.520 coaching to maybe coach this guy up a little. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.599 Bit and where he needs to. So I'm torn. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.599 No, I agree to like they at least they're starting 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.200 kind of early, you know, as far as like trying 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:28.719 to figure it out and bringing someone in here that 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:30.880 has some experience. Like you said, you like, I don't 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.000 know if he, Haley, I don't know if he is 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.400 a permanent guy, but he is a gentleman that has 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.080 some experience that is gonna push whoever is whoever else 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.039 is gonna be in competition. So this this, this camp 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.440 will on this training style, training stuff, this coaching staff. 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.279 Last year, they really like competition from other positions. So 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.560 maybe it's just like, let's bring a guy in here 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.920 that experience, that has competition. And it's weird because when 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.719 you read his numbers and you go look at his numbers, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.280 you say, oh, this guy's he's been efficient, Like he's 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.479 been efficient in a few times he's kicked, but how 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.479 obviously you ask the question of how is he going 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:06.000 to be over a prolonged period of time. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.720 So interesting to say the least. I'm just again, like 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.200 you mentioned, we didn't know that. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.440 Kicking was We knew it was an issue, but we 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.960 didn't know it was that bad until camp. Yeah, so 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.279 at least now they're trying to get someone in here 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.040 and kind of get something established beforehand. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:21.279 Yeah. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.560 Yeah, it's where I'm at with it. 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.440 It's just one of those things where it's like, dang, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.160 you know, because kicking. I've always said this, kicking is 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.240 like the one position I think on the field that 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:34.880 is unforgivable, yes, right, And I think really close second 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.680 to that is the cornerback or the secondary because you know, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.120 like you're set up for failure in those situations. But 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.640 when it comes to being a kicker, you don't get 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.159 the chances that a lot of these other positions have. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.640 You know, like think about where Jerry was whenever Brett 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.479 first missed that kick against Washington, right, Like, Jerry already 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.840 was like, hey, man, like, what we're not going to 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:56.400 do is this? 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.880 Yeah, I wish you would say that line exactly. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.440 I would love to hear, you know, say. 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.680 Like he was already feeling it after one miskick. And 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.680 when you think about what Brett did for this team, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.240 I mean I was looking at his numbers last night. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.919 He was ninety point six percent made field goals in 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:16.400 twenty twenty two, ninety four point three percent. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.080 Of those pats. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.960 And I'd like to know, you know, the numbers even 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.200 before the last three games of the season. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.440 I imagined it was up there ninety five percent, you know, 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:27.520 or higher. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.640 So it's just tricky when you think about, you know, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.440 the work he put in. I remember when he was 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.280 sitting down with us on the radio show that I'm 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.400 now Cowboys Hour. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.080 I was like, what was that show called? It's been 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:39.920 so long since we did it. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.120 But when he sat down with us on Cowboys Hour, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.640 with me and Brad Sham and we were we were 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.080 talking with him and just the level of intensity that 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.320 he was at then, you know, he was talking about how, 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.440 you know, this was an exciting part of his career. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.159 He was trying to figure out, you know, from a 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.120 family perspective, you know, because his family doesn't live here 0:06:57.200 --> 0:07:00.560 right now, because you know, its temporary, you know, so 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.400 he's trying to figure out, like, is my family going 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.240 to move here? Like am I finally in a place 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.760 where you know, I'm I'm gonna be a Dallas cowboy 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.360 for a while. So it's really frustrating just from that 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.679 frame of mind to see where he was three months 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.000 ago even and now when you think about he's back 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.720 job hunting and listen, I don't think he'll be you know, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.480 for lack of a better term, unemployed for very long. I 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:23.880 think there's a lot of teams in the league that 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:25.880 need good kickers. Brett is a good kicker, so he'll 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.440 get picked up and maybe he gets resigned again. You know, 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.760 there's still plenty of time to bring him back. He's 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.400 one of those free agents on that lengthy list. 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.240 So that's really interesting. I also thought this was interesting too. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:39.200 This is the second straight season where the Cowboys have 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.640 cut ties with a kicker after one year. They did 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.040 it the year before with Greg Zerline after he missed 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.960 six pats and six field goals. 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.120 Oh that is egregious. So I can't believe Greg. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.200 Greg the leg And I did want to correct myself 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.640 because I was going back to look in my notes. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.280 It was Jonathan Gary Bay and the ram Hira Lahu 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.600 that they had in training camp last season, and then 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.840 Brett Maher came in and everyone goes, oh no, the 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.120 world kind of stopped for a second when whenever every 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.680 all Cowboys nation found that out. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.760 But I was glad that Brett was able. 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.960 To turn that that view of himself around throughout the season. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.160 But I'm so torn about this. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.480 Because makes you look at the you look at the 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.560 start of the season and Brett Maher's leg was the 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.760 reason really the Cowboys were able to win, especially when 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.240 Cooper Rush was first coming in to be adjusted to 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.520 the offense and then Dak was out. So it's it's 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.959 just it really is not fair to discredit the success 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.600 he had because of how things ended. But I do 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:44.720 understandably get why they would be quick to be like, Okay, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:45.160 you're out. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.199 You you didn't do it when it mattered the most. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.160 And I get that. I get both sides. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.760 A flu Sorry, it's such a fluid thing. 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.560 GEK, Like we're gonna look, we're gonna look at so 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.560 many guys and be like he got signed again, Like 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.920 I mean, or you're gonna look at some some guys 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.440 in the league right now that have been playing for 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.960 a while. I think there's a couple of guys that 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.560 have been here for a minute though, that exactly that 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.880 are gonna be free agents, and you're they might get 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.439 picked up even after. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.680 Having not not such gray seats. 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.760 It's such a like I said, it's like a fluid 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.080 thing to where a lot of teams are like, well, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.960 I can just go find somewhere, I can go find 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.960 one somewhere else. But at the same time, it's like 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.400 it's so important, so how can you? But I just 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.560 think that's how the position's kind of been handled. And 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.600 it's kind of like what you say for me one time, 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.240 shame on you for me too, Like it's it's it's 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.000 the thing. What happened with Brett is similar to like 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.440 the Cowboys saw it the year before, Like, well not 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.000 the year before, but a couple years ago. It was like, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.920 he's great, but then you get those extra points and 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.520 it's like he's he's just cocking it and. 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.439 He's just like, what are you doing? Like it's so weird. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.800 It's so weird how it happened for him, And I 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.439 do agree that it's I don't know, a bittersweeten the 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:53.760 sense of like, dang, he has such a good season 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.480 and to finish it like that and that just be 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.800 it is is disappointing, But I guess it's just a 0:09:58.800 --> 0:09:59.680 part of the game. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.040 Because that's that's what everyone's gonna think of him as, right, Like, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:04.560 nobody's gonna remember the fact that he banged out back 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.160 to back sixty yarders against the Vikings at halftime to 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.720 put that game pretty much to bed. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.800 You know, no one's going to talk about the fact 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:11.760 that he was a. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.240 Perfect for for four I believe it was against Washington 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.280 and helping up the Cowboys beat the Commanders in that 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:17.559 you know, second game with. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.520 Cooper or nine of eleven from fifty yards or more. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.800 Yeah, like basically being one of the best kickers and 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:23.679 Cowboys franchise. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.079 Yeah, and then he won since the game, like, yeah, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.400 it wasn't it. It wasn't a lesson and so he Yeah, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:29.720 he was. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.800 A huge part. But that's another thing too, is like 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:33.760 I I don't I don't. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.240 I don't know how it is in a locker room 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.640 too much, but I do understand, like you also don't 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.080 want the team to lose confidence in the kicker also too, 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.719 because there were instances at the end you're like, go 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.600 for two, go for two, And that's a that's a 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.960 tough situation to be in as an offensive player. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.320 You go all the way down the field, you need points. 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.199 Then your kicker like to stay grounded and he's gonna 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.679 make it next time, he's gonna make it, and then 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.120 he's not making it the next time. 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.559 Yeah, there's panic that sits in for an offense. I'm sure. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.720 So it's it's like Actress bones Fossil actually one of 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.240 the guys is actually returning. Crazy, Yeah you look crazy, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.640 you know you look crazy, but he's returning this year. 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.640 So yeah, kicker is. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.720 One of my things I'm really looking at in camp 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.920 because it can make or break your team in the playoffs. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.199 Clearly, yeah, clearly there was a little bit of optimism. 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:18.760 And this is why I say I don't see him 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.720 having any issues getting resigned somewhere else, because you know, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.520 the extra points were the issue. It wasn't the field goals, right, 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.720 He wasn't missing field goals. He was missing extra points. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.240 So I think the silver lining in that is at 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:31.600 least in that San Francisco game, you saw that extra 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.960 point hooking left. Regardless of him who got blocked or not, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:38.000 that was not it wasn't going in. Yeah, but the 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.200 field goals were going in. And if I'm weighing, if 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.360 I'm weighing here, this is a guy where he's going 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.800 to spend all of off season, I imagine kicking nothing 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.400 but extra points, getting you know, mentally right in that aspect, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.120 and at least he's not having to worry about the 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.240 missed field goals. 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:55.320 So positive for him there. 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.920 We obviously wish brat nothing but the best if he's 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.880 back at some point. You know, obviously we'll cross operates 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.600 when we get there, but just some interesting things going 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.920 on before we get into the coaching. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.640 I think we're going to do that in the second block. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:10.240 But I want to ask you, ladies, obviously that kind 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.280 of feels like a dramatic move almost for a guy 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.600 who was such a contributor on offense and he's not returning. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.800 Where are some other positions you maybe see on this 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.959 team where you can kind of go, Like, personally, I 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.560 don't want him to go, but maybe for the good 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.439 of the team, we maybe need to do some evaluating. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:30.880 Oh god, I know this's tough question. I can talk 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.080 about it first if y'all want me to. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.600 But I just think that there's kind of been seeing 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.880 I was watching yesterday how the Titans were kind of 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.880 operating right, and the Titans are letting go of a 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.679 lot of veteran guys that I'm looking at contributors. 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.240 I know, like a free agency is how many days 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:48.760 March fifteenth. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.520 But the Titans are an organization where you know, they 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.360 cleaned house, they got rid of their GM earlier in 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.839 the year after they got smoked by what's his name? 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.120 AJ from the Eagles. I always get him in AJ 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.079 Green and AJ Brown mixed up, but A J. Brown 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.880 had the Titans in a tail spin when the Eagles 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.920 played them back mid season. They got rid of their 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.120 GM after that game. Now they're clearing house, getting rid 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.920 of veteran offensive linemen. They released Robert Woods obviously, but 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.680 to me, that's kind of signs of like they're serious 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.840 about getting better. And sometimes I think that's why I 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:22.839 don't envy being in the front office, because I'm not 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.599 the one that's having to make those emotional decisions. And 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.440 I think that there's a couple of guys on this 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.360 roster here that emotionally I don't want to see them 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.480 go right, But maybe for the good of the team 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.840 and looking forward to what you need to get to 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.280 that championship level, you've got to make those decisions. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.280 Oh yeah, I mean I guess you say, like can 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.560 you get can you get better at that position? 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.640 Like can you get better at certain positions? And so 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:50.600 I don't know I was going to ask you. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.040 You know, since you you know, your man's like a 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.360 Miami Covers guy and everything. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:01.280 Listen, listen, put yourself together too early? Anymore. It is. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.959 But I've just been seeing a little bit of. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.679 The conversation about Byron Jones possibly being somebody that's gonna 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.560 be a casualty or cap casualty. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:12.960 I don't know. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.360 From the Dolphins he's dealt with, you know, some hip 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:20.120 injuries and some injuries lately or whatever. However, is he 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:24.360 still an upgrade to you know, maybe your cornerback three year, 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.680 your cornerback two, or just a depth piece that you 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.480 can bring in. That's and I always me personally, I 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.000 truly wanted to see him with this coaching regime, with 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:36.600 this with this Cowboys, yes, okay, with the Cowboys defensive 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.360 coaching regime, with Al Harris, with the Joey Junior, with 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.760 the with the gentlemen that were brought in after pretty. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.800 Much after he he was he was gone. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.360 Yeah, I would like to see how he plays with them. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.520 And then you brought up the Titans, like my guy 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.000 sky Walker Steele a shout out to him, a easy sports. 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.320 He brought up David Long Junior that plays for the Titans. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.600 Linebacker Anthony Barr felt like what he did here was 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.120 Admiral Bull is helpful, But at the same time we 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.400 saw very clearly that in coverage that people took. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.320 Advantage of that spot. 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.840 And also too, you want to upgrade at the linebacker 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.800 position because it allows Micah to be free and do 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.800 what he wants to do. Late Vander USh is a 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.160 guy that we are very confident and he played well, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:18.920 But can you. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.640 Get better there? 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:21.880 Can you get I mean, because the Cowboys could sign 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.600 him back, obviously can He's familiar with the system and everything. 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.160 But you know, if you can get better there, let's 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.680 do it. Let's you know, let's do it. So I'm 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:31.440 those are the two spots. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:31.760 I guess. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.240 I'm like, maybe you can continued to upgrade. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.360 I haven't seen a lot of offensive linemen, but that 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.320 would be nice. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:41.480 Cool. 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Yeah, yeah, I'm like, hey, 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:20.320 like I wish my mom and dad would put me 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.239 in dance growing up. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.480 I have so much admiration for Rhythm and Blues and 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:28.120 then of course DCC, just because that was my life 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.119 growing up with dance and it was like a dream 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:33.280 of mine almost to be part of those teams, but 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.439 just watching them as I was in dance and just 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:39.160 knowing how hard that is to know that much choreography 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:40.760 and to perform in front of that many people to 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:42.520 make it look easy. And that's how you know they're 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.040 good when it looks easy, because it is not, and 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:45.760 it is a sport. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:47.520 Anyone who says it is not. 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:48.720 Let them know. 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.199 Oh I will, I will have a debate about that. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.200 Well it's not because we've got no right here, not 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:54.680 right here. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.520 But if anybody ever wants to, let me know. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.440 So we were talking a lot about the kicking situation, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.840 a lot of changes coming to this organization. Of course, 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.560 those changes started right after the Cowboys lost to the 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:11.040 forty nine Ers. They made six coaching changes before eventually 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.280 seven with Kellen Moore leaving for the Chargers. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.480 So a lot of changes that. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.600 Have gone around, and the Cowboys have kind of started 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.560 finalizing that list. They have added a couple of new 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.439 guys on Wednesday that were promoted, so Scott Tolzien, he 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.440 was moved from offensive assistant to the new quarterbacks coach 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.840 Jeff Blasco who was the offensive line assistant coach. He 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.440 is now the running backs coach, which, by the way, 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:38.080 the old running backs coach Get Pete was hired in Tampa, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.480 so good for him. Coach Pete was always good to us. 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.400 And then Canon Matthews got promoted to assistant defensive back coach. 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.320 He was doing some quality control on defense. So just 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.680 some promotions going on. There a lot of still moving 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:54.480 and shaking. I think there'll probably be a couple more 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.360 HighRes before the end of the week, and then we 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.600 will get a chance to hear from Mike McCarthy for 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.679 the first time next week at the NFL Combine. But 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.280 for the changes that are happening, you know right now, 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.080 and we've talked about this on the show before, it 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:12.000 really feels like this is a Cowboys organization that is 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.960 ready to get past the hump we've talked about in 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:17.280 seasons past where it's kind of been a lot of 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.400 talk and not a lot of action on the back end. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.120 But I feel like Jerry knows that that he has 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.040 something really special here and he's got to do what 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:27.040 it takes to get them to. 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:27.800 That next level. 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:29.520 So I kind of just want to talk about some 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.560 of the coaches who have been promoted, if there's any 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.399 guys that stand out to y'all or your thoughts just 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.879 on I know you mentioned earlier how they're starting early. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.320 You know, what does this kind of how does this 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.800 kind of impact the off season with them getting to 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:41.520 work so quickly. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.640 Yeah, I mean it's when you go ahead and get 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.560 the coach and stuff in here. This is similar to 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.160 it's kind of similar to when Mike McCarthy, Dan Quinn, 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:51.760 those guys came in that offseason. It was early, like 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.560 it was far before the draft, it was. And that's 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:56.800 partially because that allows these guys to get in here. 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.760 And these are gentlemen that are familiar to Mike McCarthy 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.040 as well, so these are some of his gentlemen. But 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.480 they can come in here and they can establish like, Okay, 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:06.440 so what's our identity? 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:07.760 Were gonna be what are we going to do? 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:10.000 And that, in turn, to me, is gonna trickle down 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.320 to setting expectations of what who's doing what you know. 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:15.560 I think Mike McCarthy talked about delegating to. 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.159 You before, and I just think it's important for the 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.560 team but also for well for the coaches, but for 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.520 the team the players as well, to kind of know 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.200 what the expectation is and going into the draft having 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.280 your staff together, I think it is power in my opinion. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.240 I think it really is power. Not trying to play 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.879 catch up after the fact. Guys know what their jobs 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.720 are and what you're going to be looking for. How 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.760 that can impact how you draft, so you're drafting the 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.840 right guys for your locker room. And so even with 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.200 like the most exciting thing for me, and it maybe 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.119 not super exciting, but Blasco is it? 0:21:47.240 --> 0:21:48.879 How do you say his first name, Jeff Blasco? 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.960 Just there being a run game coordinator, like there being 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.640 a somebody that is like we're solely granted, like Joe 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:58.600 Filman was the on line coach, but this guy has, 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:00.679 you know, insight on like how we're going to run 0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:02.800 the ball. And we've seen with Mike McCarthy, I think 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:05.160 he did work with Mike McCarthy Blascow before. 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.080 All three of those guys were guys that were with Yeah, so. 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.520 There's familiarity there with him, and he's getting guys in 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.760 here that he's comfortable with. I don't know nothing about 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.760 Scott told me, like most of us have been trying, 0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:17.800 Like I know he was a former player, but we 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.040 don't really know what to I don't know what to 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.639 expect there. But the blasco thing, him being an actual 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:25.640 run game coordinator and a running back coach is interesting 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.280 to me because I know that the emphasis of running 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:30.840 the ball and running it well is important to this 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:34.880 team moving forward. So yeah, I'm interested in what's gonna 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.720 happen with these shindlemen being here. 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:41.080 I like the idea of this Mike McCarthy culture spreading. 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.639 Haley and I were talking about how our windshields are 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.400 cracked and how when when. 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.960 It started to get out. 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:51.040 Oh my goodness, girl, that rock that it was a 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.760 rock and you know, I'll tell you later. 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:54.600 But the point. 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.879 Is is when you see this coaching reign of Mike 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:02.800 McCarthy starting to spread quickly throughout really this building, I 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.879 think what it does for really everybody has created this 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.760 Mike McCarthy culture, which you saw more of last year 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:10.479 and you've seen on the up and up since he 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.960 came in twenty twenty, which was a very weird year. 0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:14.720 We all know that you. 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:17.919 Can't really start your coaching brain in that way, and 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.320 since then, I think Mike McCarthy has taken leaps and 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:24.440 bounds to establish what he wants and set those expectations 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.720 and set those identities. I also really appreciate a guy 0:23:28.000 --> 0:23:30.800 who will move people up within his own staff to 0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:33.840 give them promotions if you will, where they're deserving, and 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.320 he knows their strengths already, as those coaches, those players 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:37.959 already know them. 0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:38.680 They're familiar. 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.840 There's no time to have to sit there and kind 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.120 of play ketchup of oh. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.400 Hi, how are you nice to meet you? You're my coach. 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:47.120 Now. There's already that respect factor there for what they're 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:48.880 saying because they've been around these guys. 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:50.760 So I appreciate that very much. 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.280 But I think what you're seeing is you're seeing the 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.040 final seal, if you will, of the Mike McCarthy culture 0:23:56.600 --> 0:24:01.119 in this team, because I mean, he's bringing in guys 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.439 he knows, guys he trusts, and to be honest, if 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.680 Mike McCarthy trusts these guys, I do too, And maybe 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.040 that's bold to say, but I have nothing but faith 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:12.080 in Mike McCarthy and how he runs this team because 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:15.360 it was incredible to watch last year. I can't imagine 0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.320 when he has guys that he has full confidence in 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:19.840 knows can get the job done. 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:21.000 It's going to be special. 0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.320 Your question when you said you had no idea about 0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:28.280 Scott toles In, I did a deep dive. I'm currently 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:31.679 on Wikipedia. I was at the knap Scott tolls In. 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.960 He is a former American quarterback who is now a 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:36.400 coaching assistant for the Cowboys. 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.360 We know he is the quarterbacks coach. 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.359 He played football at Wisconsin, but he was an undrafted 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.119 free agent. He got signed by the Chargers back in 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.440 twenty eleven, and he spent time with the forty nine Ers, 0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.240 the Packers, and the Colts. He was a two star 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.560 recruit out of Illinois in high school. It reminds me 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.320 a lot of Kellen Moore, and I'll be interested to see, 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.399 you know what his skill set and how he's able 0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.159 to work with guys like you know, Dak and Cooper 0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.800 if they resigned, obviously, but I'm also interested to see 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:05.200 what he works. 0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:06.080 Like with Will Greer. 0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.600 I know that you know this past season was just 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.080 a learning opportunity for a greer and you know, getting 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.000 to learn from a guy like Dak Prescott or even 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.200 Cooper Rush. I think that combination is really good to 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.040 kind of pick their brain from. So we'll see what 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:23.119 he can do with the quarterbacks and how he works 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.480 with ness Meyers or not ness Meyer. 0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:26.160 He just left. 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:31.280 Who's the new OC? Shotty? Thank you the last time? 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.760 Yeah, their last names are kind of tricky boat something 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.800 else that I think, And you were talking in length 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.320 about Mike, and I get that. I think he's done 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.400 a tremendous job with this organization, but I think this 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.320 also could kind of be a make or break here 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:47.439 for Mike as well. You know, those conversations have been 0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.320 happening for the last two seasons now. The positives is 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:54.760 that he has continued to improve. But again, I think Jerry, 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:57.680 and I think a lot of the leadership guys on 0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.440 this team are to the point where they're like, look, 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.000 we cannot. 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:02.639 Keep wasting that really show me. 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.080 We cannot keep on saying that we're it and then 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.000 we're not. And so I Jerry, I think, is finally 0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.480 hearing that. I believe that he's kind of like all right, 0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:14.280 like time to put up or shut up and listen. 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.680 I don't think Mike has done anything wrong. 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.520 I think it'll be interesting to see how he calls 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.800 plays and how that makes things different. I'm actually interested 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:21.720 to see if that is even something that they continue 0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.120 to go forward with or if it's just something where 0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:25.919 they're saying right now, we don't know, but we're going 0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:27.520 to default to Mike as the play caller. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.760 I also think, though, as long as you're the Cowboys 0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.720 head coach and you're not going past a certain point 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.080 in the playoffs, you're always going to be questioned if 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:38.520 you're not exactly yeah. 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:39.640 I mean, how many. 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.560 Years with Jason Garrett did everyone sit here and say, oh, it's. 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.119 His job on the line every every off season. I mean, 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.600 he's so wild the day after loss. 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:56.560 And understated and it's wid era Cowboys fans are I 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:57.080 really do? 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.200 I think that Jason. 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:01.320 Gear Eric really gay Cowboys fans like I need to 0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:02.520 go see my therapists. 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.520 But I'm so glad that you mentioned the locker room. 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.400 I'm so glad that you mentioned just like you two 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.840 years in a row, it is what it is, two years. 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:11.040 In a row. 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.879 Your office couldn't get it done and your defense was 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.080 more than capable, more than capable. 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.880 And so I am one of the people who really 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.439 think it's important for your locker room to stay together, 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.960 for your offense, for you to show the aggressiveness and 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.280 the want to change on the offensive side of the ball. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.879 Because it's staggering that it's it's similarly happened, similar things 0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:34.440 happen in the playoffs two years in a row. I 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.359 think it's important that they address it and go forward 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.640 for the team, and also just the camaraderie of the team, 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:42.800 Like I really do. 0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:45.680 Yeah, they have to, I mean yeah. 0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.840 What you don't want is you don't want another stagnant 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.320 timeframe where you look back years later and say, Okay, 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.200 when when should I have made this move happen? When 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.879 how long was too long to keep people here that 0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:01.600 weren't making it happen. So what I really appreciate about 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.080 what we've seen so far this off season is, you know, 0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.199 some of these coaching changes may have come to a 0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.119 shock as a shock to us on the outside, but 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.480 really when you look at it, it's it's interesting to 0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:15.920 see who was on there make it or break it 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.760 year This season, you know, I know Kellen was the 0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.360 biggest one that we were all talking about, but it's 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.800 interesting to see kind of how quickly that moved along. 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.760 And what I think is a good new pattern to 0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:30.240 see is these things are happening quickly. Like you mentioned 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.160 to your point, Aisha, is these are happening. These things 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.240 are happening quicker than I feel like they were in 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:37.919 past years. It wasn't a hold on until the very 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.240 last second kind of thing with Kellen. It was all right, 0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.880 we didn't make it happen next and not that brutal. Right, Like, 0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:49.440 I'm sure it was not that brutal, but it's I 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.360 like the speed that they're going with this. They're not 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.280 wasting time. It was very much so turn the page. 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:57.320 We need to focus and kind of revamp things here. 0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:58.200 Yeah, speaking of. 0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.880 The players, we just got to push alert from me 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.800 espn Ceedee. Lamb apparently got a massive back tattoo and 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:05.120 I'm looking at it. I don't know if we can 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:10.280 show our viewers though the tat it's pretty intense. 0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:11.560 It looks like he got it done while he was 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.400 at the Super Bowl. 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.960 But he said out, yeah, that looks like it hurts 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:16.720 the commitment. 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:18.640 Yeah, it is I'm looking at it that I'm trying to, 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:19.000 like to say. 0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.520 On there, there's like a some kind of big cat, 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.680 like a jaguar or a leopard. On the left. It's 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.480 got Kobe Bryant on it, top of it says my 0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.480 story Isn't over forty five logo on there as well, 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.840 there's a Warner Brothers logo and a Spartan helmet, so 0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.480 a lot of things, a lot of his favorite Yeah 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.280 that's creative, yeah, yeah, yeah. So obviously always a guy 0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.320 who's feeling. He's feeling himself. 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.200 Clearly to hear like backstories of tattoos, and even when 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:50.560 you just see the guys in the locker room, you 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:52.440 can see some of them and sometimes I'm like, what 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:53.120 is that one mean? 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:54.720 Look at that one? 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.320 Look at him becoming a number one? 0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.440 That's not what they you notice what they do the 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.600 leg tag du the arm and then they show everybody 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.680 like look, look this is what you want will see 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:07.480 when I'm on the field. 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:08.200 But is this there? 0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:08.600 Hi? 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:09.120 Yeah? 0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.440 Problem please, it's me. 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.000 Okay, oh god, let's go ahead and take our second 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.000 start final break here on Girls Talk, Boys Talk. 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It's been 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:44.560 fabbin and shaken when it comes. 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:45.960 We talked about the coaching. 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:50.800 Changes, naturally, some roster changes are coming soon. But the 0:32:50.800 --> 0:32:55.960 big thing right now, franchise tag period has opened. And 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.160 I kind of have to do some digging always when 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:00.240 it comes to talking about the franchise tag, just because 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.320 I have to like remind myself, like, you know, what 0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.200 are the intricacies of it, because it is a little 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.080 bit difficult. And essentially what a franchise tag is is 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.280 that a team can take a guy that they know 0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.440 they want on the roster, but they can't quite get 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.760 to a long term deal. 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:15.480 So they give a guy a franchise tag. 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.040 It allows them to continue those negotiations without having to 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:23.400 worry about spending a ton of money upfront. Dalton Schultz 0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:25.520 was the guy who was on the franchise tag. 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:26.160 This past season. 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.080 It is not necessarily player friendly because it does not 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:31.880 allow those players to speak. 0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:34.320 To other teams. Unless I believe that it is. 0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:39.480 A non exclusive franchise tag, then players can obviously have conversations. 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.160 There's implications that we won't have to get too much 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.880 into details about, but naturally a franchise tag, typically teams 0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.640 are going to do the exclusive tag because they want 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.280 to make sure that they can keep those players on 0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:54.280 their roster at as much of a minimum cost as possible. 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.120 As he mentioned, obviously, Dalton Schultz played on that tag 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.480 this past season. He was making a fully guaranteed ten 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:01.360 point nine since he made it through the season and 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.360 some of those other checkpoints that he made. And there's 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.120 a couple of guys on this roster that are free 0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:11.160 agents that could hit that free agency tag this year. 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.880 Dalton Schultz is a guy who could be retagged if 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.279 they get there to it. If they retag him, they 0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.959 would have to sign him at thirteen million. That would 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.000 be his franchise tag cost. Some other guys that I'm 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.479 going to list out and I just want to open 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.680 the floor to y'all and just you know who do 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:28.880 we think it's that tag? But some other guys that 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.799 have been talked about so far in this offseason. Tony 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.399 Pollard is the biggest one. He is also, for lack 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:36.200 of better term, the cheapest option to tag him at 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:37.440 ten point one million. 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:38.920 That's eight hundred. 0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:43.359 Thousand dollars less than Dalton Schultz tag last year. Who 0:34:43.440 --> 0:34:45.600 else is on that list? Layton vander ash I don't 0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:47.759 see a world in which this happens. If you tag Layton, 0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:51.040 you owe him twenty point nine million dollars, So I 0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.280 don't really see that happening. 0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:53.440 But I obviously see. 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.840 Value in keeping Layton vander esh on this roster. So 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:58.759 that's a guy to where it's an option, but I 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.400 don't see it happening. And then you have Donovan Wilson, 0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.239 who I also think is an interesting option as well. 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.840 You tag him at fourteen point five million, or you 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.640 can hit him with the transition tag at eleven point nine. 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.760 My question for you, ladies, of those four players, who 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.360 is the most important guy that you want on this 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.719 team no matter what, and would give that tag to 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:20.719 keep them around for at least one more year. We're 0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.520 not talking future long term, but just for this upcoming season. 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.160 Who's the guy, if any, that she would tag to 0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:26.720 keep around. 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.480 I think the obvious answer is Tony Pollard. There's okay 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.080 to me, that's the obvious one. And there's the reason 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.640 everybody's talking about it because logistically, it makes the most sense. Costwise, 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.960 it makes the most sense, and just the season he's had, 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:42.400 the importance he has on this offense. Aisha brought this 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.200 up against the forty nine ers. You saw the Cowboys 0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:50.160 unravel without Tony Pollard. You saw it with your own eyes, everybody, 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.440 So you need Tony Pollard back on this team. 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:54.000 Now. 0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.320 What will be interesting is I think it's Tony Pollard 0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:01.320 or no deal, because yes, get him his get him signed, 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:02.320 get him back. 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:04.279 But if you don't have to use that. 0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.680 Franchise tag, then don't I think logistically, price wise, if 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.600 it's not Tony Pollard, don't use it. 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.320 So I'm going Tony Pollard. 0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.160 I'm gonna be basic with that answer because it just 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:18.040 makes the most sense. Bring TP back because you need him. 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.200 You absolutely need Tony Pollard back. And a lot of 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.200 people have been bringing up, well, the ankle injury is 0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.520 not going to impact anything. I don't think so, because 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.800 it's not like this is a nagging injury that he's. 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.359 Had to break. 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:32.799 It's it was a bad hit happened once. And we've 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.439 talked about many times on this podcast alone how great 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.280 this medical staff is here to rehabbing players and bringing 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.000 them back to their fullest extent to be healthy. So 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.719 I'm going TP or no deal. I feel like I'm 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:44.600 playing deal or no deal. 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.840 Now, yeah, I think I would agree. 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:50.520 It's like, as much as I love Dono, like the Cowboys, don't. 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.600 They value safety. Maybe they value it a little. 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:53.919 Bit more, but I don't know if they valued enough 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:55.839 to tag him or nothing. And I thought you made 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.759 a really good point just of like it's either you 0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.000 tag him or you just you know, just sign him, 0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.439 Like don't don't don't touch the tag if you don't 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:05.600 have to, maybe you can just come to a legitimate deal. 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.080 But a lot of the things when you bring up 0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.160 Tony Pollard, I mean you look at the running back 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:10.959 room here. 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.480 I mean, Malik Davis is a guy. I think he's 0:37:13.520 --> 0:37:13.799 a guy. 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.239 He's gonna be a player, But a lot of the 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.680 conversations being like is he gonna come back? Is he 0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:19.719 not gonna be back? And when you look at that 0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.080 side of things, to just go into the next season, 0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:24.000 yeah you could draft a running back. Yeah you could 0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:25.680 bring a guy in here, and I think you could. 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:27.480 But at the same time, just to come go into 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.719 next season with no veterans like no guy that's been 0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.840 here before and done it before. It's something I'm like 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.319 shaky about, but I would definitely say at this point, 0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:40.239 I would say, is Tony Pollard if you're gonna do 0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:40.640 it or not? 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.920 And also too, he's with Tony Pollard. 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.719 It's interesting because all the things that you kind of 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.640 worry about with a running back, he don't have a 0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:51.080 lot of tread on them tires, Like, he hasn't played 0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:53.360 a whole bunch, so you some of the things you 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.280 kind of worry about with like, Okay, if I franchise 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:57.520 tag him, is he gonna have longevity this next three 0:37:57.600 --> 0:37:59.640 years or whatever the case may be, feel like it's 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:03.120 less of a concern because he has not played a 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:04.919 craptn or he has not taken a ton. 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:06.480 Of snaps in the NFL. 0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:10.239 So I'm on the fence about do you use the 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.440 tag and I'm not at this point. 0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.759 I think it all boils down to the Ezekiel Elliott decision, right, 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.399 if you keep Zeke around, the contract is obviously going 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.160 to have to be restructured, and I think that's just 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.520 the reality of the business side of this game. He 0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:27.359 obviously brings value to the field, and I believe it's 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.560 really challenging for people who don't spend time in this 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.440 building talking to the guys, talking to the coaching staff, 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.200 understanding the decisions that go into keeping both Tony and Zeke. 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.319 And it's wild because you know, like I'll have conversations 0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:41.319 with like random people that I see out and you know, 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:42.440 they'll they'll. 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:43.880 Ask, you know, like what to do with Zeke? What 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:44.359 are we doing? 0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.839 And again, like people just don't recognize the value that 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.080 he that he brings to the table. You know, oh, 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:52.560 he's washed, he's not scoring well actually, like there was 0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.800 a streak where he scored a touchdown in ten eleven 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:56.400 street games. 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.319 And it's not you being a homer just trying. 0:38:58.920 --> 0:38:59.760 Yeah, it's just facts. 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.520 Do I agree he's not the same Zeke that came 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.560 into the league. But I think that's the challenging part 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:06.399 of being a running back in the NFL right now 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.560 because you're expecting your running backs almost to come in. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:10.960 You give them these. 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.120 You know, three year contracts, these five year contracts, whatever 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.120 it is. You come in, you absolutely get what you 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.439 can squeeze out of them, and then it's like all right, 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.200 onto the next And that's kind of the way that 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.920 the NFL is shifting, right, Like you're not seeing a 0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:27.279 ton of you know, long term running backs like you 0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.120 saw with like Emmitt Smith or you know some of 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:32.160 these guys who you know were back in the day 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.640 those Bruisers. So it's challenging because you know, you I 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:37.520 want them both back on the roster again. Like I 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.080 just think there's so much value in having a Zeke 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.919 and a Tony, Like once they started utilizing that run game, 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.280 it was, yeah, it was great. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:47.880 It was a great asset that you didn't see a 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.880 lot around the league. It was unique to the Cowboys. 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:53.520 The issue that I see with tagging, and I don't 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.200 know that issue is the right word. The issue that 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.839 I see though with Tony is if you don't tag him, 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:01.480 he's out right like he's gonna go somewhere else, you 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.320 know what I mean. Because the Eagles are going to 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.240 see that Tony Pollard is available and they're going to go, hey, Tony, 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.640 we'd like to give you this, you know, three year, 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.880 fifteen million dollar. 0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:16.480 You know deal, and Tony's going to go They did 0:40:16.520 --> 0:40:19.600 with DeMarco Murray, right, And it's just always tried to 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:20.399 be the Cowboys and. 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.960 Obviously that's just like it's an example. But so it's tricky, right, 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:25.840 So if you don't tag him, I don't see a 0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:29.279 world in which the Cowboys would match whatever somebody else 0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.359 will offer to bring him back. Now, if you do 0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.920 tag him, you obviously run into the issue of what 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:34.840 is he going to be? 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.239 You know, the same guy. I know you talked about 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:37.680 the injury. 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.200 The Cowboys have really great medical staff, but a broken 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.000 legs a broken leg, and it's we saw how Michael Gallup. 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.919 It took him all year to adjust and he still 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:48.160 wasn't back to one hundred percent. 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.319 So now you've got a guy where, let's say you 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.600 do eliminate, eliminate it's a horrible word. 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.920 Let's say you do not re sign Zeke right or 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.920 restructure his contract or whatever it is. Now you've got 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:00.799 a guy to where like he's going to spend all 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:01.840 the off season rehabbing. 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:03.399 I'm sure he'll come back fine, but you. 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.000 Don't know the mental hurdles or even some of the 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.680 physical setbacks that he's going to have from having that leg. 0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:09.920 So it's definitely tricky. 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.440 But I do like what you said about you know, 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:14.120 if you don't tag him, don't use. 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:14.399 It at all. 0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.279 Yeah, I do kind of like that. 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.400 I would personally give it to Donna if they don't 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:22.960 do Tony, just because I feel like Donna was a really. 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.960 Important part of the team. 0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:26.840 But all of these guys are guys that I'd like 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.040 to see back here long term. 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:32.520 I also think too, when you look at how the 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.560 run game was maybe not used to the full extent 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.680 this season, going back to this whole Zeta conversation, it's 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.879 so frustrating to me because you don't really know what 0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:45.160 Zeke is still capable of because you didn't see the 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.160 run game when you needed to the most. I mean really, 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.440 there were times where yes, you saw the run for 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.160 a little bit, and then the run was gone, and 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.560 then you have Dak throwing for how many plus yards 0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.560 over and over and over and over, and you're relying 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:01.640 on on the pass game more than the run game here. 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:03.960 So for me, when people talk about, oh. 0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.200 Zeke is washed, get rid of Zeke's it's just not 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:11.160 a valid conversation because you really don't know how much 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.360 he can be utilized. Still, you didn't see enough of 0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.160 him this season to be able to say that. So 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:19.800 I'm more excited to see, you know, if Zeke does stay, 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.600 if Tony Poller does stay, how that one two punch 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.359 can be utilized to the full extent, and that will 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.719 trickle back down to Dak feeling more comfortable with the 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.320 run game. You're going to see, you know, that offensive 0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.560 line holding up, which will be another interesting conversation there 0:42:35.640 --> 0:42:37.640 as well, and how that's going to look next season. 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:39.520 But it's a trickle effect. 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.360 And so I think what people fail to realize is 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.400 what you saw from the Cowboys run game wasn't necessarily 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.879 a game plan that was working for the run game, 0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.120 even though that was their identity, it wasn't what they 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.640 were sticking to for most of the season. 0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.520 So if anyone saying Zeke is washed, don't come at 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:56.960 me with that. 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.600 Because he's really banged up to I mean, honestly, if 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:03.040 we're being just completely honest about this last two years 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.680 in particular, you didn't see him decline and play I 0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.080 guess until he was banged up, until he was dealing 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.080 with knee stuff even last season, like he was killing it, 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.040 and then he had the knee injury, and then this 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:15.040 season also too. 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:17.520 It was early in the season. I'm not mistaken his 0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.200 knees got banged up. Yeah, the Lions game. And so 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:24.319 when you the Lions, but when you talk about I knew. 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.760 But but then also to talk about Tony Pollard possibly 0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:31.920 coming back if you do franchise tag him, if you 0:43:32.200 --> 0:43:34.279 are trying to convince him to come back, I know 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.080 for a fact that he is going to hopefully with 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.480 this new coaching regime. Want to know how much am 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.640 I going to be utilized and how am I going 0:43:41.719 --> 0:43:43.719 to be utilized? Because it was criminal that he wasn't 0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:45.640 used in the passing game as much as he should 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.719 have been. It was it was so just the the 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.960 running back conversation is like who's who's coaching, how they're coaching, 0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.080 how these guys are going to be active. But to 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.799 your point with Zeke also too, I've seen him he 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.040 teaches also, he talks to these guys. He's selling them 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.600 like even Tony, He's selling them like, hey, lean here 0:44:03.600 --> 0:44:04.560 and this is going. 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:05.480 To open up for you here. 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:10.360 There's some experience with him that that I think obviously 0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.520 gets undershadowed, you know, by him not playing well in 0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:15.600 the moment or whatever. But I do think he has 0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:17.360 been very healthy for this locker room. It's been a 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:18.879 pleasure to be able to meet him as well. 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:19.960 Yeah, he's awesome. 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:22.319 He's one of the first guys whenever I moved here 0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:26.320 that was polite to me, that spoke to me. So again, 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:28.759 this is this is the hard part of our job 0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:31.200 is you know, getting to know these guys on such 0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:36.320 a personal level, right, and we're having to say like, yeah, 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.799 calm down, pipe down, We understand what you said, but 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:40.239 pipe down a little bit. 0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:40.920 Gee. 0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:44.520 Yeah, So it will be interesting to see. Like I 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.520 said at the top of this block, the franchise tag 0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:50.080 window opened on February twenty first, it will The deadline 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.200 to tag players is March seventh, at three o'clock. 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.160 So obviously they have a little bit over about a week. 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.600 And a half to get some of those negotiations and 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:02.120 decisions made, so continue to monitor that. This will be 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.680 our last show though for a couple of weeks. Aisha 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.799 and I are headed to the Combine next week, so 0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.880 we are so excited to be bringing us some cool stories. 0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:11.480 I know, Jess, we'll be holding the fort down for 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.520 us back here hanging out getting some good stuff. 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