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Now, boil Boy, where 21 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: do I start? Okay? Do I start? Zalm miuram. Everything's 22 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: so fast right now? Okay, we're talking drones today and 23 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: you already know that because you saw the link when 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 3: you clicked on today's episode. So without further ado, I 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: would like to introduce the man who is CTO I 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: guess right for the Drone World League, also probably CEO 27 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: of PDW, which is he's going to explain. We're going 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: to expound on pdw's and how he's crossed over from 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: from just growing up eating at the breakfast table to 30 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: what he's doing today. So welcome to the show. Ryan Gurry, welcome. 31 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. 32 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: What's up dude? What was your breakfast before school? 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Cream? 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: A wheat cream a wheat Yeah, I had a hot 35 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: cocoa and toast. My mom always seemed to have that 36 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: the bus would come. I don't always have a hot 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: cocoa and some toasted dip. 38 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, it's just how it is, just 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: how it is now now, uh you know you let's 40 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: talk about this being like, you know, really like a 41 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: military style podcast. 42 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 3: Soft rep dot com stands it stands for Special Operation 43 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Forces report, right, So if you're on the ground and 44 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: they go to like infantry guys like hey, give us 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: a situational report a sit REP. Well to soft guys, 46 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: they go give us a soft soft rep. And so 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 3: that's where the name came from. You're working with this 48 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: like these guys in your company as I was reading 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: about it, who come from that background? What is it 50 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 3: that drives you to hiring military personnel first? For PDW? 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: Can I ask you that? Yeah? 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: So I think essentially, you know, we're developing products for 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: soft forces, right, So I got a little feedback in 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: my headphones. I think that's gonna be fine. So with 55 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: any product, you know, generally you are super close to 56 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: the end user, right. So I spent my life developing 57 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, software and hardware for generally different audiences, and 58 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: that's better at you know, it's a long story, but 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: I was in the Drune Racing League and it was 60 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a TV show for families and kids, and we were 61 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: doing stuff that wasn't done before to allow you to 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: have you know, a drone race on live television in 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: ESPN and NBC. And we ended up getting the opportunity 64 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: to train some special forces on the side, and you know, 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: started slowly developing products for the military. You know, it's 66 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: important to be as close as you can with the users. 67 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: So throughout that process, we've been hiring you know, special 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: forces to be an executive physicians in our company. So 69 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: our CTO is, you know, from Development Group. My chief 70 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: revenue officer, same thing. Our head of Advanced Missions is 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: from Delta Group. And as we grow and develop products, 72 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, what better way to get close to the 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: earth is by hiring experts, right, So that's our secret sauce. 74 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: We'll continue to do that into the future. I think 75 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: we're mostly veterans, more than fifty percent in our company, 76 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: and you know that's the best way to get ahead 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: and to understand the futures that are important by being 78 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: as close to your end user. 79 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: So I love that, and I just want to say that, 80 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: you know, we really focus a lot on how the 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: transition happens from military to civilian life, but you're coming 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: from the other opposite direction of kind of bringing them 83 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: into your organization. 84 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, totally. And I'm a civilian, right, so as 85 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: true as they come. And you know, I've seen band 86 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: of brothers. I understand, you know, you know, we're pretty 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: patriotic family growing up. But I spent thirty years in 88 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: front of a computer chair and I've had none of 89 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the sacrifices that these guys have had are gone through. Right, 90 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: So it's the exact opposite coming into civilian and developing 91 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, basically combat systems. 92 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: Right. 93 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: It's been a lot of learning about the culture, about 94 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, how things are done, tactics. It's it's fun 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: to nerd out on as a civilian and I get 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: to work with like really really cool people. You know. 97 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: It's also like a cheat, like these people are highly 98 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: capable and you know, uh, very able to operate in 99 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: a business, so you know, special forces almost like stealing 100 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: people from Audi week. 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: It's pretty sweet, right, And and an Olympic athlete body too, 102 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: like you know, they're like, I'm super smart and a fit. 103 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, getting in a debate, which we do all the 104 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: time is like super intimidating with these with these folks. 105 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: But you know, it's been an awesome experience, very humble 106 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: to be where I am and to be working with 107 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: people like this, and you know, internally, you know, we're 108 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: building stuff to you know, to help them and tools 109 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: and assets to make their jobs easier. Right, So it's 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: it's an extraordinary position to be in and I have 111 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: just the best job in the world. 112 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: Really do it sounds like it now now if if 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 3: you were to you know, go back and just you know, 114 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: let's let's let's just go back a little bit, all right. 115 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: I just kind of jumped the gun. I wanted to 116 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: talk about how you like a speed record, you know, 117 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 3: and you have this this world Guinness record from twenty seventeen, 118 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: and I wanted to talk about like all the patents 119 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: that you have put out there towards this this profession 120 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: and this lifestyle that you're in. You know, with all 121 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: of these different types of quad copters and like multiple 122 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 3: antennas on top of a device that can you know, 123 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: pull in mobile signal, you have, you have these patents, 124 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: so you're you're you're behind the chair matters because you're 125 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: gonna help these guys move forward, you see. 126 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like essentially, like you know, I got 127 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: into drones because I was a gearhead, right, Like I 128 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: love you know, cars and motorcycles, and I follow racing sports. 129 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: And you know what led me into drones was just 130 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: the power of what they can do, right and as 131 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: it translates into Ukraine today, that same power as being 132 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: you to eliminate enemy forces. Right. So when I first 133 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: saw drones, I was like, oh, shit, there's this three 134 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: D high performance robotic doesn't have an airfoil, you know, 135 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: just rips around the air and uses you know, basically 136 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: iPhone sensors and to get to get it around right, 137 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: and radios. So I was initially attracted just because I 138 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: knew the performance angle was there, and all the things 139 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: that we did in Drone Racing League were built around 140 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: extending that performance where that be you know, radio systems 141 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: or batteries or motors or props and things like that. 142 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Like it's the same stuff in cars, right, Like you 143 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: figure out you know, either Tesla's got different dynamics than 144 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, an ice engine, right, internal combustion engine, right, 145 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: but it's the same tweaking that goes into that, you know, 146 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: to extend you know, how fast it can go and 147 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: how it can be corners. Right. So when I got 148 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: into drones, it was a clean slate. Nothing was being done. 149 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: There was a lot of amateurs like myself in the space, 150 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: and you know, speed records and endurance records and you 151 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: know what you could do with batteries and radios. All 152 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: that was left, you know, was just you know, left 153 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: out for people like myself to go out and conquer right. 154 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: So when we got in a drone racing league, you know, 155 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: the idea was to put on a fantasy sport, right 156 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: that mimiced the stuff that we all saw in the eighties, right, 157 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: so transformers or you know, tron and all that cool stuff. Right. 158 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: We were essentially telling the audience you're going to see 159 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: that when you tune in the ESPN. So that meant 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: we had to have radios that would push drones many 161 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: miles you know, through stadiums, or we had to have 162 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, radio systems that would mitigate interference or jamming. 163 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: We'd have drones that could never fall from the sky 164 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: that you had to rebuild really quickly. 165 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: And you know, we. 166 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Would destroy five hundred plus of those of every event. 167 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: We just have a huge pile of dead drones. And 168 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, we started pushing the limits of what you 169 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: could do. You know, fast forward a few years. I 170 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: end up in a weird field in North New York, 171 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: you know, with Dylan Ham who was standing up you know, 172 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 1: the drone department at Development Group and going into combat 173 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: with or you know, going in emissions with you know, 174 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: small organic assets. And we quickly saw that he was 175 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: doing the same thing that we were doing pushing the 176 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: limits of drones batteries, you know, how you can carry 177 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: way for a long period of time. And that's kind 178 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: of when this thesis started that you know, maybe there 179 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: was a bigger you know mission out there for us 180 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: to accomplish. 181 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's awesome. And somebody who's an average 182 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: user of a LiPo battery, you know, a lithium poly 183 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: or a lipoly battery or even lithium ion batteries, you know, 184 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: it's like, where do you get such robust battery systems 185 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: that don't get too cold, you know, from being an 186 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: out Like just because even on your like you know, 187 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: held action cameras, I go ride six times on the 188 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: slopes and my battery is apped, right, so let alone. 189 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: You know, you're let's say you're flying at ten thousand 190 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: feet right and you're doing a drop like you know 191 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: for a firefighter. Okay, you gotta drop a bunch of equipment. 192 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Those those are all this is all battery operated, right. 193 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's like a battery is one of the 194 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: ingredients your stater, uh, your your motor, your prop, the weight, 195 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: your configuration of your drone. Like there's all these like 196 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: little tiny ingredients that go into stuff, you know, but 197 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: like now you know, we're developing you know, real deal 198 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: combat systems so that it's got to perform in the cold, 199 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: at high altitudes, it has to perform you know, anywhere 200 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: in the world in the desert, and you know those 201 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: requirements come from you know, veterans in the space and 202 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: all the stuff we learned at d r L is 203 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: super applicable, you know to developing small drones that are 204 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: high performance, you know, and drones combat systems and stuff 205 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: like that. 206 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: That's that's gnarly. See. The reason why I have a battery, 207 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: uh you know usage is we run airsoft war games here, yeah, 208 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: Salt Lake, and so we're constantly putting in all these 209 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: different types of libo batteries and whatnot and see them 210 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: just kind of sometimes combust on their own if if 211 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: they drop or you know, they can just like you know, 212 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: hit the hit the dirt, and and it's just like, 213 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: where's this perfect battery. But if you're right, it does 214 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: take like a formula of what you're talking about to 215 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: make a function. 216 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: There is no perfect batteries. And actually one of the 217 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: airsoft battery makers, I forget the name of his, run 218 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: by a guy named Trent. He was doing some of 219 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: the most you know, innovative work in batteries and battery 220 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: cells and finding the best ones to fit the demand. 221 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Right. 222 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:36,239 Speaker 1: It's it's just some cells are made for high efficiency, 223 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: some cells are made for high discharge. And early in 224 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: the days, Airsoft was one of the sectors in you know, 225 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: the electric you know, power system game that was pushed 226 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: in the limits, right, Drones are another one. We look 227 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: for high discharge, we look for you know, not generally 228 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: cycle count, but you know, stuff that can perform. And 229 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: there's different cells that do different things. And you know, 230 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: some some line up flashlights, Airsoft and drones, right or 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: Tesla batteries or you know, totally different right right, right. 232 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: No, and that just it's just it's just I just 233 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm so upsessed with batteries with 234 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: drones right now. But I got guys that come in 235 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: They're like, I have a charger at home, I fly drones. 236 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh yeah, this is almost a you know, 237 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: symbiotic relationship here with a lot of that stuff. And 238 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 3: so you know, we also have guys that want to 239 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: bring drones out into the war game, right, And so 240 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: let's talk about that and we're like, well, how do 241 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: we take it down? Can we shoot it? And they're 242 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 3: like no, well we can't pull recon with it then, 243 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: but you can take photos and you can videotape us. 244 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: But if you're gonna bring it out to try to 245 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: launch it and like get you know, the advantage on us, 246 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: how do we counter that? Right? So let's bring that 247 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 3: to the situation today. How do we counter that? Like, say, 248 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: I'm walking down the street here in Sandy, Utah, address 249 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 3: one two three America Lane, and I just have a 250 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: drone coming at me? How do I counter that? Uh? 251 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on something like that going into that world? 252 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, the counter drone industry is massive and it's a 253 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: it's a very dynamic and changing place. Right at the 254 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: front lines today, they're just using optical fiber right. There 255 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: is no stemming, there's no stopping it. And I think 256 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: that's what's going to happen. You know, we talk about 257 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: doctrine and the evolution of what's happening, but you know, 258 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: we look at small drones as one of those important 259 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: pillars of doctrine as things move forward in the same 260 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: way that you know, uh, gunpowder, aircraft characters, mvgs. It's 261 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: just a game changing application. And what you really have 262 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: is a three D combat system, right, So like forever 263 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: small arms and artillery, you have these trajectories you're javelin. 264 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, you still have to have line of sight, 265 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: but you know, small drones you can hide and hit things, 266 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, many miles away and have time on target 267 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: to really understand what you're looking at and choose, you know, 268 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: when to engage. It's a you know, in twenty four 269 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: months we went from the Ukrainian first strike of a 270 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: small drone now to the most used combat system at 271 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the edge of the front line. And you know, there's 272 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 1: a lot changing very quickly. Our business has grown substantially, 273 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we believe that the future of small 274 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: drones is really important that America elite, and you know 275 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: that's our mission. 276 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could agree with having the grip on that situation, 277 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, especially we got to counter it, right. We 278 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: have to be on the forefront and have the insight 279 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: and the dev guys and the Delta d boy guys 280 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: and all those saying this is what we need on 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: the front lines right now, you know, in back rooms, 282 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: getting that stuff built. You know. I remember watching a 283 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: YouTube clip where it just showed like somebody hand taped 284 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: like a pistol to their drone. Yeah, you know, and 285 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: at that time, I think it just kind of made 286 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: everybody realize like as he shot at the drone, flew back, 287 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: you know, but he recorrected it. 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're at the very beginnings of this, right, 289 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: And yes, I think essentially drones to two things. One, 290 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: it offers scale, right, so they're very inexpensive. We look 291 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: at them as ammunition and you know, in the same 292 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: way as small arms. You can give everybody one of them. 293 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: And I think what that does is it supplements the 294 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: need for strategic assets, and it supplements supplements the need 295 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: for air sport. Right where you at the front a 296 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: single unit and call in, you know, your own strike. 297 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: You can call in your own ISR, and you can 298 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: scale that to anybody who wants one, right, because they're 299 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: just so inexpensive, right, So it's it's it's both the 300 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: scale but also the capabilities of these things happening at once, 301 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: and you know, a lot's can of change because of it. 302 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: That'd be so cool for it was integrated in the 303 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: helmet Okay, let's just say that its let's say yeah, 304 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 3: it lands into the helmet, okay, and it's it's I 305 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: can still protect you. So it's in you. And then 306 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: you're like okay, all right, and then you're like it's 307 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,239 Speaker 3: like off you. Off it goes and does this thing 308 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: and then it just comes back to you and just 309 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: lands right back into you and your helmet has the situation. 310 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: I'm just making this up right now. Hey yeah, I. 311 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: Mean it's a mix between like what we thought was coming, 312 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: but also like the tried and true, like you know, 313 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: the fiber optics has kind of been kind of funny 314 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: because that's now probably going to be a standard, but 315 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: like seven miles of fiber optics to make sure that 316 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: you can't get jammed and no one can stop that. 317 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I think things are going to continue to evolve into 318 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: two directions. One, you know, future stuff that we also 319 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: come in, but also like the tried and true bulletproof, 320 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, combat systems that are made not to fail, 321 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: and the lowest common deniymen denominator is the things that 322 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: will work, right bro. 323 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: It's like it's like in Call of Duty, Black Ops 324 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: two or Black Ops thirty, World at War where you 325 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: go into the conference building and you have to listen 326 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: to the conference as a wasp. Okay, I'm not sure. 327 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still a little bit of waste for that. 328 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: Just track me on this, right. And then the little 329 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: wasps just flying around The guys in the game were 330 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: swatting at it, like this bug won't leave me alone 331 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: around me You're like flying in their face and you know, 332 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: listening to the conversations and a little stinger. 333 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe you know, but I don't know what 334 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: you can do with that now. But like just the 335 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: energy density to transmit radios, right, Like you can't do 336 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: that with a wasp, right, So like it depends. Yeah, 337 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: you'll see, we'll see where things go. Like the Black 338 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Hornet by prox Nova. Prox Nova, that's pretty sweet. They're 339 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: doing a good job with that nano sized rig. But yeah, 340 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think things are going to evolve into 341 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, practicality along with you know, future give abilities 342 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: at the same time. 343 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: Like the tactical to practical like the Capri Sun or 344 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: Tang you know, made for space but in our lunch box, right, 345 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It's like, okay, cool, thanks mom, 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: Mgain for the tang and the hot cocoa the. 347 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: Same way like Aka's bench sheet metal or AR is 348 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: like super easy to take down and build up the 349 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: same attributes you have to employ into you know, modern robotics, right, 350 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: So you have to be really practical where you can 351 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: be and then push on the limits, you know, where 352 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: you're able to. 353 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: A super functional third grade learning level device. 354 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, essentially right. 355 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that everybody can pretty much operate. Yes, because I'm 356 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: going to pretty much assume everybody has a third grade 357 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: reading level across the board wherever I go. Okay, we'll 358 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: go on. You got to make it simple, right and 359 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: really just likes that, right, buy it now, push the button, 360 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: send it to my house, three clicks, get it done. Yes, 361 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: so it should be just so you know, like I said, 362 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 3: just lands in your head helmet. 363 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: That's still a little expansive, right, but yes, maybe one day. 364 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: I mean, like I think a lot of that is 365 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: like we battle a lot of hype and hyperbole what 366 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: is possible, right, and have to counter that with practicality. 367 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: So you know, whether it's AI or autonomy that you know, 368 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: people will talk about a conferences and how things are 369 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: actually implemented at scale and how you can actually get 370 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: things done. It's always a balancing act, right, so we 371 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: have to be really careful that the systems that we 372 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: give to war fighters are systems that they can use 373 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: and they can rely on. 374 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: Right, Right, I've seen terminators, dude, I know, I've seen 375 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: you know, like these films with robots, you know, Buck 376 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: Rogers and you know, going all the way back like 377 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: till today. You know, it's just you know, I mean 378 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: you've seen these. 379 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: Two, right, yeah, of course. 380 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: See so you know that John Connor is going to 381 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: come back soon, Okay, I mean I'm gonna I'm. 382 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Pretty much an optimist. I believe in utopia and not dystopia. 383 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I think that. 384 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: I love that. 385 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: I love that. It's just important that you know, our 386 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: guys have the best gear and they can go and 387 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: do what they do and that's our job, right and 388 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: we leave the rest up to them in the State Department. 389 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: And I think I have a lot of faith in that. Right. 390 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: That's good. That's good. Yeah. So do you guys do 391 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: anything with you know, the Drone League still? Are you 392 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: still like full on like or is this PDW your new. 393 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: He's been on its own for about seven years. We 394 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: did the Drone League for about three years, and then 395 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: we took the entire engineering team and moved them to 396 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Alabama and then, you know, there wasn't much left to 397 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: do by the time we got things uplemented at the 398 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: Drone League. Uh, it felt like all the adventure was 399 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,360 Speaker 1: in this arena I see, and you know. 400 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: It has been. 401 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: It's crazy. The people who I get to work with 402 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: and the lives that they've you know, they've lived are 403 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: completely different than what I've lived. And you know, we're 404 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: we're basically getting to rewrite, you know, a military doctrine. 405 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, if you look at all the 406 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: famous you know, war scenes in American movies that civilians 407 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: like me understand, from Captain Winners and Bandon Brothers with 408 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: the artillery guns. She was saving Private Ryan on the 409 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: beach with the cliff to zero thirty. All those things 410 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: change with small drones, right, and it's not the same tactics, 411 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: And we get to be a small part of it. 412 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: We get to help, you know, work with soft forces 413 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: to really understand what the future looks like. It's super 414 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: fun and exciting, and we get to work with the 415 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: coolest people in the world, right it's really cool. 416 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I've gone to large scale wargames and it 417 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: was at George Air Force Base in California with Lion Clause. 418 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: That's the name of the event, Operation Lion Clause, And 419 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 3: some of those out there listening may remember that we'd 420 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: go house to house. So it's an old military base, 421 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: it's decommissioned back in the day, and we just fight 422 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: urban warfare street to street, house to house over like 423 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: a square mile. It's pretty intense. But right next to 424 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: it at George Air Force Base is its runway and 425 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 3: what they use it for is logistics like ups or 426 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 3: FedEx or shipping, and also like drone training. So here 427 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: we are house to house wargames, kicking indoors, and then 428 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you just look up, you hear 429 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 3: this and it goes and it's just quiet, and it's 430 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: like a big, huge, like drone flying over us, and 431 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: we're like, oh, they're locking onto us while we're doing 432 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: war games, like they're training on us, knowing that this 433 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: is happening, and they're flying the drone all around us 434 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: and it's just you hear, it just buzzes and then 435 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: it just goes quiet. You just hear this like wind 436 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: howling over its wings as the magnet effect takes its toll. 437 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You're like, dude, that would 438 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 3: totally smoke me. 439 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I think like drones have the ability 440 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: to operate in a tactical nature too. Like my chief 441 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: revenue officer, Chuck, he was a preacher for Development Group 442 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: and he's been you know, I think one day we'll 443 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: get to work on an indoor drone. Right, it's not 444 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: currently in our roadmap this year, but you know something 445 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: that is really small that helps you clear rooms and 446 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: it is something that you can rely on and is 447 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: tactical in nature, that would be super helpful. And you 448 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: could see that, you know in Israel with tunnels, or 449 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, in any area where drones have to work 450 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: in a small space. But that use case is super 451 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: super important. And Chuck builds them all day. He's got 452 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: like ten of these little tiny rigs and he just 453 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: talks about how much of a game changer that will 454 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: be when we can implement it. Well, you know, to 455 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: help him do his job, or. 456 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: Little drones you just turn around the corner, You're like clear, Also, 457 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: there's just a little drone in your face, like with 458 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: like lights laughing at you. I don't even know. 459 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, someday, yeah, I mean that'd be a better way 460 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: to it's a clear room. I'm not sure just today, 461 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's coming right. 462 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: Have you seen the movie Batteries Not Included. 463 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: No? No, there's a lot of suits out there with 464 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: drones stuff in and I'm like, okay. 465 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: You should probably see Batteries Not Included. Okay, it's an 466 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: eighties movie. It's pretty wholesome. Yeah, it's pretty wholesome. 467 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 468 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying it's anything bad. No, it's called 469 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 3: Batteries Not Included. And anybody out there that's here, we 470 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 3: say that and you're thinking, yeah, Rad, tell him about 471 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: Batteries Not Included? 472 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, small drones have you know, they get a 473 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: lot of cynical play on them, and there's a little 474 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: bit of dystopia built into it. Right, But when you 475 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: get to work with our guys each day and day out, no, 476 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: you know this is going into their hands, right, it's 477 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it takes shape over time. 478 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see. And uh, what's so cute about Batteries 479 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: Not Included and drones is that they're like spaceships that 480 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: if it was a trailer, and this is the eighties, 481 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: it would be these little spaceships fly to Earth unknowingly 482 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: have intelligence and eyeballs and heat. Yeah, batteries not included. 483 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: Gosh, all right, I guess I'll have to watch this. 484 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty good. And uh, you know, 485 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 3: it's all around the same time Police Academy was coming 486 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: out and Cocoon and like all those types of movies. 487 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: The Short Circuit, Johnny five is alive. Hello, Yes, I 488 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: remember all those no Disassemble. 489 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: Yes, you're in my uh you uh yeah, that's the 490 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: fling where the movies where I was growing up. 491 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's what's me too. Ber I can't stop. 492 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: I can't. I was born in the nineteen hundreds with 493 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: the big wheel was invented. You know what I'm saying. 494 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: The dukes of hazard actually is what I Yeah, that's funny. 495 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: Oh bro so drones. You come from Drone League? And 496 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: did you have a degree when you like did all this? 497 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: Do you have a degree? Did you go to college? 498 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: Or are you just a super genius guy? No? 499 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean I'm just a you know, I just ever 500 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: since I was a kid, I had a computer and 501 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: just kind of hacker. 502 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 503 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: I came into drones by doing software and then hardware 504 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: and then just always kind of been a gearhead. A 505 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of the guys who I work with to are 506 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: the same way, the self taught or they just learned 507 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: on Oh no aol. 508 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: Right, you've got mail. Yeah, my business, it's the same way. 509 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 3: It's the same way. 510 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: Solving and testing and seeing what works and what doesn't. 511 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: We're really fast iterators. Uh. We made practical decisions. We 512 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: listened to the end user quite a bit. And you know, 513 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: we're all generally meat eaters. We understand you know, firearms 514 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: and combat systems, and you know, love to study doctrine 515 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and things like that. So I'm trying to say, is 516 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, and cholesterol. 517 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: Let's put that out there. Cholesterol. You gotta understand cholesterol too. 518 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Come on, now, let's go. We're gonna get that out there. 519 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: I'm on a Let's talk about status. Let's talk about 520 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: zoom stat and let's talk about that for a second. Okay, 521 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 3: let's talk about constipation. Let's talk about how. 522 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: I'm good with it. I never had any. 523 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: She's on that, no, are you? I'm on a five 524 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: milligram nightly? 525 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: Okay, probably thing. My numbers are good though. 526 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: Now. I just got back from my dietician this morning. 527 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: She's like, you're doing everything that I think I would 528 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 3: tell you to do, you know, working out, eating good, 529 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: cutting out all of the fried foods, which is hard 530 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: bro right. Yes, Holy cow, I just stumbled onto this 531 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 3: thing between us. But I'm trying to normalize talking about 532 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: men's health women's health. Make it a normal conversation. People 533 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: should not be so like, oh, hip a hippa hippa. No, man, 534 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: I got I got plaque in my widow maker. 535 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the calcium check. I got that too. 536 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm forty seven. And they're like, we're going to start 537 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: you on a statin at a younger age than we 538 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: usually do. And I was like, too, let's roll with it, dude. 539 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hey man, you gotta. 540 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: Live well, right, yeah, Like, Well'm lod. 541 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: Of excited about for this phase of America. I'm really 542 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: proud of, you know, some of the things that happened 543 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: over the last few years in terms of you know, 544 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: ar capabally produced innovative stuff. 545 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 3: Right. 546 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, right now there's a company called Dji, yeah 547 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: of course, you know, and and China is just you know, 548 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: the best at the hardware game. Right. Their ability to machine, produce, fabricate, industrialize, 549 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: and very quickly iterate on hardware is extremely reflective I 550 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: think in the ev car game right, with like the 551 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: by d s, the x pangs and the Neo's, also 552 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: with the drones and if you open up a Dji drone, 553 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: it is fantastic. They are very very good at what 554 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: they do. The way they do their sensors, the way 555 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: they do their you know, their board, the board connectors, 556 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: they're they're operating at Apple levels, right. And you know, 557 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: people on my side who are doing robotics right have 558 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: to delve into hardware scale machining, making sure that's all 559 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: American made, and you know, there's still a lot of 560 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: work to be done to really get them up to speed. 561 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: On the other side, though, we have you know, groups 562 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: like Nvidia and Opening Eye and Dropic and Apple just 563 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, reaching you know this and leading the world, right. 564 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: And I think there's a really exciting time for American 565 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: industrial right where people like us are figuring out how 566 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: to make you know, these uh these component stateside, how 567 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: to scale them well, how to make them cheap, right, 568 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of you know, the sentiment 569 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: in America is really excited to really build that out right. 570 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: So I get to share in a lot of you know, 571 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: great experiences. One working on new combat systems with SAW 572 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: forces and you know, sharing executive physicians in our company 573 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: with them. I get to work on you know the 574 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: American industrial uh, you know, re energy, re energation. I 575 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: don't even think that's a word, but like, you know, 576 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: bringing back American hardware, scaling and making sure that. 577 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: We're re integrating it. Yeah dude, yeah, integration. Yeah, really 578 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: cool arena to play in, right it is. Let me 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: ask you if you're the troop in the trench and 580 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 3: there's drones go on both sides, Okay, how does he 581 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: know who's just who's what's the troops in the trench? 582 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: What's his guidelines to think like, oh, that's my outbound 583 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: or that's an inbound you know, I mean, like how's 584 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: he going to not shoot down the outbound that needs 585 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: to go? 586 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: Well, there's just the there's just a lot of new 587 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: TTPs that are gonna. 588 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: Come, righttp oh tatle training programs Yeah yeah, yeah, okay. 589 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: And you know there's gonna you know, there's different styles 590 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: of training and you know we integrate now with different 591 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: exercises with the army and special forces. It's just going 592 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: to evolve, right, And just like any new combat system 593 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: or any new you know, big change in doctrine where 594 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: that be gunpowder, aircraft carriers, nuclear weapons, mvgs. Right, you know, 595 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: it's it's just gonna evolve, right. And it's awesome too. 596 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: Work in my field right now with the defense, you know, 597 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: giant that's that's changing and trying to support us, right, 598 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: and I think our side has done really well to 599 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: something that's just you know, grown immensely in the last 600 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: twenty four months in you know, the I mean European War, 601 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: and I think everyone's a little bit reactive, but you know, 602 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians and the Russians are using very unsafe, unsecure 603 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: methods to getting war done right. They're they're showing i 604 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: think some of the tactics and you know, the progress 605 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: of what small drums can do, but you know they're 606 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: not safe to handle. It's the wild West. There's no standards, 607 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: and what we get, you know, what we can do 608 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: is from that crucible really pick out the best things 609 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: that are working and implement you know, you know, higher 610 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: security higher safety and greater performance rights. 611 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, for the side that is using your stuff, it's like, hey, here, 612 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: it's a little bit more you know, third grade, get 613 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 3: it done, point it this way, versus like it's a 614 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 3: Maltov cocktail. That's yeah, that's like, you know, it's like, okay, 615 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 3: I think this will work. I've seen save with Private 616 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 3: Ryan sticky bombs yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like, 617 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: here's this. It's it's like a drone. It sticks. The 618 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: one guy just blew him apart though, before you even 619 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 3: got it stuck. 620 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, and that's happening in Ukraine and Russia. 621 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: You know that they're using you know, uh, three D 622 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: printed shape charges, right, and there's there's no safety arming device. 623 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: And you know, we we watch it every day, right, 624 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: like it's it's just a proving ground for what can 625 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: work and whatnot sure. And I get to you know, 626 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: we all in our group, We get to have these 627 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: guys who have a ridiculous combat experience, you know, translate 628 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: what's meaningful and what's not. And I think we wouldn't 629 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: be live without our soft forces, I mean our company, right, 630 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: like we would we would be stuck in the mud. 631 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: And I think I think it's it's kind of interesting, 632 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: Like you'll see companies out there being like, yes, you know, 633 00:33:54,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: we hire veterans. My instinct was just to make them executives. 634 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: So like my chief technology officer, you know, he didn't 635 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: he learned everything, you know from development group, my chief 636 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: revenue officer with all the requirements and everything that he's gleaning, 637 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: you know the same thing. Like these aren't people who 638 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: went to MIT, but my god, there's so much greater. Yeah, 639 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: and there's so much more effective. And I think that's 640 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: like a little secret, like. 641 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 3: You well, they could bet they could be any of 642 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: these things. See these guys that go spec ops, you know. 643 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: I mean even my own dad to his horn, he 644 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: was a Green Beret. My father special Forces, always master's degree, 645 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 3: working on a doctorate before he passed away. I mean, 646 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 3: just like always thinking, you know, and always educating and 647 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: just being a better version of himself. And that's just 648 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: what these guys do. They have like a whiteboard that 649 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 3: has like five years planned on it and they just 650 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 3: like sit there and it is unbelievable. 651 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: Our biggest joke is making fun of Dylan's He's gonna 652 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: hear just laughing his schedule, the way that he gets 653 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: things done, the way he organizes, the way that he 654 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: handles process efficiency. He's the best operator I've ever worked with. 655 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: And you know, when I first met him, he was 656 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: just making up his own stuff at the edge, right, 657 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,959 Speaker 1: and now he leads our entire technology team, our engineering team, 658 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: our mechanical team, or electrical team, our radio team, and 659 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: from the Yeah, you know he's a sniper. It's awesome, 660 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's just we're just in a 661 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: very fortunate position and you know, in terms of health, 662 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: I just want to hang on as long as I 663 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: can so I can keep doing this right, And it's 664 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: it's a very cool opportunity. 665 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. And I guess that's really just 666 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: kind of like, are you after any clients? Do you 667 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 3: have something that you is there somebody out there that 668 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 3: would reach out to you, or are you really just 669 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: very compliant, you know, like just USA. Uh, that's your 670 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: structure is the uh. 671 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: Customers customers now are soft forces. Uh. You know, we 672 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: just got a big program of record for the army. 673 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: It's around the medium range reconnaissance which is basically in 674 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine they call that the mothership, but just a big 675 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: ass quad copter that can carry heavy payload for a 676 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: long periods of time, so we can drop mortars, we 677 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: can you know, deliver assets. It's fully tactical and meets 678 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: all the requirements uh for Soft and Army, and we're 679 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: really excited to work on that. We're working on different 680 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: vehicles that are smaller and yeah, I mean that's that's 681 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: our main customers, making sure that Soft an Army are 682 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,479 Speaker 1: happy and you know we uh can you know, help 683 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: with their mission, right, And we look at the entire 684 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: space as you know up and coming. So drones that 685 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: can do one ways that are really inexpensive that costs 686 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: as much as you know a round of ammunition, uh 687 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: or or your drones that are made for a thousand 688 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 1: hours the right, that are made to get through electronic 689 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: warfare and can eye on target really far away or 690 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: do a stag bite laser. But all of this is 691 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: made to come out of a single unit, right, So 692 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: they're all built from rucksacks, are smaller, and they're made 693 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: to be organic and quick, and you know, they're made 694 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: to be tactical so you can deploy that, you know 695 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: in a contested environment. 696 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly like I've seen some images of marines US 697 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 3: Marines like kind of sling shotting. I know that's old school, huh. 698 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: You don't want to set up a stuntshot, you want 699 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: to just set it out. But that was like it's 700 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: like starlight night vision versus gen white phosphor. You know, 701 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: we we have to evolve, right, you probably know what 702 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: I'm talking about, right, And then they'd be the ones 703 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: where they like they put it together. Even the guy 704 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 3: narrating it, you know, he's like, clip a wing in, 705 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: clip the wing in, throw it. 706 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we got to make sure that the guys 707 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 1: can do it from you know, cover right. And it's 708 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: fun because that's that's tactical, right, And that's pushing the 709 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: limits on what you can do. It's making sure you 710 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: can have an asset that can be thrown around, right, 711 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: and design in a way that can you know, handle 712 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: mud and rain and also be deployed quickly. Right. So 713 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: it's pushing the limits on on small robotic design. What 714 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: we do is very different from the drones that you 715 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: can buy at Best Buy. 716 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: Right. 717 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: The thicknesses of our walls, how hard it is, you know, 718 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: how many powers we put on it before we give 719 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: to the customer. Like it's a much more robust, robotic system, 720 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: uh than just your typical DJI. And that's that's really 721 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: fun too. 722 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 3: I wonder if you can modify a copter to hover 723 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: with a sound system to like run like a rave 724 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 3: on a beach. 725 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean credence clear revival, Right, you can 726 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: just run that over right. 727 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like just causan. Yeah. Yeah, i mean 728 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: just taking it outside the space. You know, I'm just 729 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: trying to think outside the box with this. I know 730 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 3: it has its purpose and wow, so much you can 731 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: do and and uh you know, and it's and it's 732 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: it's not involving a human life per se, you know, 733 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 3: flying inside of the machine, where like you have these 734 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: guys that have back paramortars that can like you know, 735 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 3: get up with a parachute and then they're hauling stuff 736 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: to the top of a mountain for like electrical companies 737 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 3: and you know even for you know, doing jobs that 738 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 3: are high altitude. And now you can just take like 739 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 3: you said, like the mother ship quad copter probably and 740 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 3: just zip and right on up with what you need. 741 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: Does democratize support, right, Yeah, you can you can do 742 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: what you need yourself, right, which is really cool. 743 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, wow, you could be your own crew 744 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 3: chief the whole thing. You can chase after it as 745 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: it's crashing into the water. 746 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: Like no, I mean it's just starting. Like we see 747 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: the future where they're you know, carrying small arms, carrying supplies, 748 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's gonna go quick. And you 749 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: know again, like our job is to make sure the 750 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: US has the mess ship. 751 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 3: And I've talked to other companies on here, and some 752 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 3: of them don't arm their stuff, right, so I'm a 753 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,959 Speaker 3: little hesitant to bring that up. But like you said, 754 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: small arms and for soft forces, these guys are using 755 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 3: these four combative missions. 756 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: We make weapons, that's what we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's. 757 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: What kind of hell fire missiles? Like what do we fire? 758 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: That's a big asset, right, but like yeah maybe one 759 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: day okay, yeah, essentially, like if your asset can't be lethal, what's. 760 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 3: The point I see, Well, yeah, some want to probably 761 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 3: have like the item out there and then maybe somebody 762 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 3: does something with it. 763 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to do it all at once. 764 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: Like if that's you can't just strap a sidewinder onto 765 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 1: a quad after, right, you can integrate that bake it together, 766 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: do your targeting systems. It's all. You can't buy it 767 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: javelin without a warhead. 768 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 3: That's kind of what you're you were explaining they were 769 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 3: doing over there, you know, like they're kind of putting 770 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 3: these ad hoc systems together. 771 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: To we deeply bake our stuff that you know, it's 772 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: it's easy to purchase into use, right, But yeah, I 773 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: mean we're developing combat systems actually, you know, so we 774 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: have to make sure it does a really great job 775 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: at that. And you know, we play as an active 776 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: role as possible doing sure that it is as capable 777 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: as you can. 778 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: Get, like submarine detecting. 779 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, right now, you know, we're doing you know, 780 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: consumable right where you have a small drone that that 781 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: that you know can hit antipersonnel or armor, and we 782 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: also have a mothership that launches those small assets. And 783 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: then our mothership can also drop mortars and and uh 784 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, heavier munitions as well. Right, So that's the 785 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: space we plane. It's very similar to what you see 786 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: on the Eastern Front with Ukraine and Russia. But as 787 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: that evolves, you know, our assets will be doing small arms, 788 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, laser target designation, they'll be doing you know, 789 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: heavier arms, right, that's. 790 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 3: All to come. Oh yeah, oh yeah, mapping, Oh yeah, 791 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 3: you know. 792 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean like but in terms of like people who 793 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: have like these dual use drones and like, oh yeah, 794 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: we sell it best buy. But then we also work right, 795 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, like you can't have a camera drone. It's 796 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: not why would you have a camera drone if it 797 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: can also carry a weapon, right, So like you have 798 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: to do everything right. No one is going to have 799 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: just a camera drones taking pictures. It should be able 800 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: to be lethal as well. I see we're you know, 801 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: so like I think that we're very much defense first. 802 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 1: Our customers are you know, war Wick fighters, and yes, 803 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: we're making products for them to use to be effective, 804 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: right right. We're never going to make a drawn that 805 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: just is a camera drawne. 806 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 3: I got you. Yeah, I know, nothing that can follow 807 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 3: me on the mountain that I'm snowboarding. Nothing yet right now? 808 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 3: I want that. 809 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the difference between right. 810 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 3: I got you, I got you, yeah, And and and 811 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: about four slits in the front grille, I got you, 812 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 3: But no, that's I just wanted to be clear with 813 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 3: what we're talking about here, you know, And I know, 814 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 3: I laugh about things and and chuckle, and you're really developing, 815 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, weapons for war and for defense and for 816 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 3: the special operation forces community. And you know, I just 817 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 3: wanted to hear that from you. So thank you for 818 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 3: explaining that, you know, to my to my listener and viewer. 819 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 3: For sure, that's exactly it, you know, so and and 820 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 3: and again, are you ever is there a place that 821 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: a listener could you know, submit a resume to you guys? 822 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: Are you guys always open to someone who's like, hey, 823 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 3: you know you sound just like where I belong. 824 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: We have like twenty thirty job openings right now. It's 825 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: all LinkedIn on our website. Our you know, entire go 826 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: to market team is betteran based. I think the entire 827 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: group is most of our company culturally, you know, that's 828 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: that's what we that's our that's our chee could right. 829 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: So w dot a I is where you can find 830 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: our website. There's there's career session on there also on LinkedIn. 831 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: I think we just posted ten ten job offerings yesterday. 832 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're based in Huntsville, Alabama. 833 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 3: M Yeah, no, that's great. I just want my listener 834 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 3: out there who's just saying hey, how do I transition 835 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 3: to hey, oh this is great. You know, maybe they've 836 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: been brought up in the field as an MS in 837 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 3: the army or already and they're getting out of computer 838 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 3: sciences or whatever they want to call cyber security, whatever 839 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 3: they want to you know, that's what you're after. You're like, hey, 840 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,280 Speaker 3: hit me up right. 841 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 1: No, I mean there's a huge amount of drop repardings, 842 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: especially for veterans. 843 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 3: Right. You guys stalk food in the breakroom for everybody 844 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: to eat. 845 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, like everybody's drinking celsius. 846 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 3: Now I gotta drink my water. I almost just spit. 847 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: We try to stalk our pantry at our shops for 848 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: our guys to like pick at whatever they that's in there. 849 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 3: You know, like, hey, I know, here's your benefits package. 850 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: Because they think I have low test. 851 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: I buy peanuts and almonds. 852 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm such I don't want to say, but I like, 853 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm so not worthy that. 854 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: I stopped drinking caffeine. Dude, it's real. It's like, oh, 855 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't need hepatitis sea on the liver. Try to 856 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: clear up my cholesterol. Bro, You've been really cool to 857 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 3: talk to, all right, and I know you're super busy 858 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: and and and I love that you came on the 859 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 3: show and and you really did well. You presented yourself well, 860 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 3: and I think that this has been a really entertaining 861 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 3: uh time, and and right, and I know that I'm 862 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 3: going to let you get back to your normal business 863 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 3: day because you got a lot of things going on, 864 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: as we talked about prior to this. But Ryan Gurry 865 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 3: with PDW dot AI. You can check out his information 866 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 3: on LinkedIn as well if you feel like you want 867 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 3: to maybe send your resume or have somebody that might 868 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 3: take a look at it and maybe give them some 869 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 3: feedback if they do send it, say hey, we're looking 870 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 3: for somebody that has these qualifications. And then you know, 871 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 3: just remember there's people out there trying to help the 872 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 3: special operations community for the US and this is one 873 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 3: of them right here. And you know, tactical to practical, 874 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: practical to tactical, it all kind of blends in together 875 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. So good good job 876 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 3: on getting yourself where you're at today, right and plus 877 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 3: taking your statins Okay, I just want to say. 878 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate it. I'll keep taking them. 879 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 3: Yes, me too, me too, all right, And to my 880 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: listener out there who is like, do I need to 881 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 3: take a statin? Go talk to your doctor, bro, Just 882 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 3: go talk to your doctor. Say I'd like to know 883 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 3: what a statin is. Okay, go look it up. Go ahead, 884 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: hit it up and make it normal, all right, and 885 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: be kind to somebody out there because it's contagious and 886 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 3: unless you got to really drop a drone on him, 887 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: and that's probably gonna suck. So all right, so on 888 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,280 Speaker 3: behalf of soft Rep and the family here and Brandon 889 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 3: Webb and Ryan Gurry my man over here, the CEO 890 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 3: and the world's record holder for the fastest drone at 891 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 3: one hundred meters at two hundred plus kilometers. Second show 892 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: super Fast. I just want to say thanks for tuning in, 893 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 3: welcome to twenty twenty five, and let's just have a 894 00:46:54,040 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: great year. And I say peace, thank you. 895 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 2: You've been listening to self red Lady