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Speaker 1: How you doing today? I'm pretty good, Ty, and I

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Speaker 2: Hopefully your hammies are feeling a little bit better than

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Speaker 2: his hammies. Yeah, this episode, all of our episodes, driven

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Speaker 2: It's been kind of the I don't know theme of

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Speaker 1: I can only assume RG three is getting hornier and

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Speaker 1: There is no Camping World Bowl anymore. Oh, we just

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Speaker 2: with the Camellia Bowl, Dan, what do.

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Speaker 1: You get for me? I think I have the Kamellia Bowl, right,

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Speaker 1: listening around treason. Dan Van he's a Van Treasure. How

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Speaker 2: The First Responders Bowl, which they play in Dallas between

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Speaker 2: I don't like betting against Utah State because of what

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Speaker 2: And they played strong down the stretch, which is definitely

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Speaker 1: So which of these teams' resume is shakier. I know

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot here, but like Memphis

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Speaker 1: Memphis only beat up on like not good teams? That's

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Speaker 1: the word to me about Memphis, That's what it appears

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Speaker 1: They performed decently well, but they don't actually win games. Now,

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Speaker 1: a counterpoint. The counter the resume. Yeah, the counterpoint is correct.

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Speaker 1: You are correct, and that is I think a legitimate

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Speaker 1: in favorite of Memphis. Okay, fair enough, Let's go to

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Speaker 2: between Coastal and East Carolina, the Battle of Carolina here.

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Speaker 1: Most if not all, of these matchups are worth watching.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful all right, Carolina, I'm on Eastern Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Of this evening again the twenty seventh, if you're listening

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Speaker 2: This game could be about forty five minutes long. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's all. Let's let's travel ahead in time. Dan, boodoo,

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the future. I'm ty, He's Dan. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about the Military Bowl presented by Paraton. Okay, Caraton.

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Speaker 1: Jesus, So, Duke won a bunch of games, and they

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Speaker 2: Arkansas against Kansas, Arkansas favored by three.

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Speaker 2: down on the Kansas side of this year. So I'm

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Speaker 2: on Kansas outright.

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Speaker 1: I like Kansas as well. I don't know if I

435
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: love them as much as you do, but you make

436
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: some good points and it just worries me that who

437
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: to Arkansas beat Penn State last year? Yeah, the Bowl

438
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: game easy to get up for Penn State, huge, major

439
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: historic program, a lot of eyeballs. More difficult even though

440
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: you know Kansas is better this year, even though you

441
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: know their offense, especially when healthy, is pretty dangerous. Tough

442
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: if you're Arkansas losing, what you do, losing a defensive

443
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: coordinator that they just want to get to next year.

444
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: And Kansas is like, oh my god, what is it

445
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: like to go to a bowl game? I like Kansas

446
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: in terms of the care as well. Dan, let's go

447
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: to the Holiday Bowl? All right? How much time do

448
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: you have?

449
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: A friend of mine a family member of mine?

450
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

451
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: Actually both message me and they were wondering, is there

452
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: really a bull sponsor named the San Diego County Credit

453
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: at Union? What is bowl season coming to? And I said, hey, man,

454
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: they've been sponsoring this game forever.

455
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how many years it has been, but well,

456
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: there used to be the San Diego County Credit Union

457
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: point Setia Bowl and there was the Pacific Life Holiday Bowl.

458
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: To those of us, the Holiday heads in the audience,

459
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: I obviously know what's going on with if you remember.

460
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: I think it was the point Setia Bowl that was

461
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: crazy flooded. What was the Navy played in that one?

462
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: I believe Navy was in that one. So it was

463
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: nice to make the connection to you know, Navies used

464
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: to playing in rough waters kind of thing. So yes,

465
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: a real bowl sponsor. There used to be two bowl

466
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Speaker 1: games in San Diego. I used to go to that

467
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: game when was at the old Murph the Murder right.

468
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: Now it's at the Well Jack Murphy at Peco. Now

469
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: they're playing at Petco now. But then what was it

470
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: called Qualcomm? I believe it was Qualcomm Stadium was the game?

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, some of us old heads go way back.

472
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: I've never been to the Holiday Bowl, but some of

473
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: us remember the old Culligan Holiday Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ty, look at you.

475
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: See the only thing with the Pacific Life is you

477
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: get the disco well, which is great. You get that

478
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: commercial a bunch. We have a headline quarterback matchup. Both

479
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks had to announce for various reasons that they're coming

480
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: back to their schools next year bow Nicks and Drake May.

481
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: As we mentioned, this is one of the best, if

482
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: not the best, other than CJ. Stroudstats and Bennett quarterback

483
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: matchup of all of Bowl season. Both of these teams

484
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: losing key key dudes to opt outs and the transfer portal.

485
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: There should be a ton of offense in this one.

486
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: North Carolina and Oregon both moving on after offensive coordinators

487
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: left Phil Longo from North Carolina to Wisconsin. Kenny Dillingham

488
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: takes the Arizona State head coaching job, and so in

489
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: a number of ways they are sort of mirror images

490
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: of each other, these two programs, with defensive struggles costing

491
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Speaker 1: them in key spots struggling down the stretch. Oregon loses

492
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: two of three with a beat up bon Nicks to Washington,

493
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: Oregon State too good teams North Carolina I think do

494
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: they lose their final three, including getting decimated by Clemson

495
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: in the the ACC Championship game. I can't wait for this.

496
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: I can't wait for it because there's going to be

497
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: a lot of nonsense, no Josh downs, Oregon down, some

498
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: key dudes on defense that that opted out. I just

499
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: think it's going to be madness. There are going to

500
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 1: be players running free. How do you handicap a game

501
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: like this?

502
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: Then?

503
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: Because neither team played much of much of quality defense. Yeah,

504
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: this year, I mean Oregon's was substantially better than North Carolina's,

505
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: which we give Iowa a lot of crap for how

506
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: much of a half team they were. North Carolina is

507
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: pretty much on the other side of that. They were

508
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: more fun to watch because of Drake May because the

509
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: offense was pretty good for most of the season until

510
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: teams seemingly figured them out. But the defense was it

511
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: was pretty bad. I mean it was, Yeah, it was

512
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: well outside the top one hundred nationally. So you consider

513
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: the fact that they're going to be down a bunch

514
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: of key defenders and they were already bad on defense.

515
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: You consider the fact that Oregon down what Christian zalees

516
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: right top defensive back. They weren't great on defense either.

517
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: The point spread is fourteen in favor of Oregon, which

518
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: feels like a lot in a shootout or a potential shootout.

519
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: I do think Oregon is substantially better, but that feels

520
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: like a lot of points to me.

521
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: It's a ton of points. Both of these teams are

522
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: going to be playing a good amount of untested youth

523
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: on defense. I think why I might be inclined to

524
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: say Oregon is worth the defensive dice roll is because

525
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Dan Lanning is a more proven defensive mind than anybody

526
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: North Carolina has on a sideline. All due respect to

527
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: jeene Chiswick, but the current version of jene Chiswick. I

528
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: know he had some terrific years calling defenses way way

529
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: back when for Mack Brown at Texas, But right now

530
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: I think with how Dan Lanning and that defensive staff

531
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Speaker 1: at least shut down and forced turnovers when they played

532
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Utah Pack twelve champion in Utah. At least you've seen

533
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: it in action. Sometimes you didn't see it against Oregon

534
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: State the following week against the run, absolutely not. But

535
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: there is that hope that they can figure out stops

536
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: down good players, thin, young whatever, against a North Carolina

537
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: team down that didn't really run the ball like they

538
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: did the past couple of years. Right, Drake May, I

539
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: think was the leading rusher for this team, so they

540
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: don't have that element to their offense in the way

541
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Speaker 1: that Oregon does as the most efficient rushing team in

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00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the nation, I believe. So that I think is the

543
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: X factor that when you have somebody like Drake May

544
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: who has to be counted on even more so without

545
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Josh Downs to do everything and comes into this game

546
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: not playing super well, that Oregon might have the advantage.

547
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Speaker 1: Might Let's go to.

548
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Speaker 2: The final game of today, Wednesday, the twenty eighth, Let's

549
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: go down to the nerg in Houston, if we could. Yeah,

550
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Texas Bowl at tax Act Texas Bowl Texas tech Ole

551
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 2: miss Ole, miss favored by three and a half points.

552
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: Looks like Tyler Shuck's going to get the start good

553
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: for Tech in this game. Donovan Smith is transferring Baron Morton,

554
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: the freshman who saw some significant time this year. He's

555
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: still recovering from injury. And I do want to do

556
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of a reversal if I could. If

557
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: that's okay with you.

558
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: That's okay.

559
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: You called something out in real time when we did

560
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: the confidence preview that wasn't quite as apparent to me

561
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: as it is now. But you know, the guiding precept,

562
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: the whole the foundation on which my entire Bowl picking

563
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: strategy is built. Care Care, the care acronym. It starts

564
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: off with, how did a team look down the stretch?

565
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Ole Miss looked like crap down the stretch?

566
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: They did? They looked They looked like crap down the stretch.

567
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: And so if I want to be consistent here, I

568
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: should reverse my pick from Old Miss and go Texas Tech.

569
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Speaker 2: I think you're already on Texas Tech, right.

570
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I am on Texas Tech. Yeah, another team, new coach,

571
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: new energy, you know, a defense that came to play sometimes,

572
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: which is new sometimes for Texas Tech.

573
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about flipping my commitment here to the

574
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: Texas Tech side, But it actually would be quite fitting

575
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: for me to do so, given how high I've been

576
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: on them all season long, Like, why why quit now?

577
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: Right?

578
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: That's true?

579
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: Way Quinn, Now, I've been doing this for twenty weeks.

580
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Why quit now? Agent of Chaos? Yeah? Yeah, So I'm

581
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: going to flip my pick here.

582
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go to Texas Tech plus three and

583
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: a half and I'll probably change it up in the

584
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: confidence pool as well, since I think it'll let me.

585
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a little I'm a little weirded out

586
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: by how old miss looked down the stretch. Luga Altmeyer transferring,

587
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: not that that plays a huge deal, but a name

588
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: to look out for. By the time people hear this,

589
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: I think there's probably a high likelihood you will have

590
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: announced for one team or another. But I just I'm

591
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: going to go with the team that I think has

592
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: more to play for, cares more about this game. Tyler Schuck,

593
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: maybe this is his swan song to go out on

594
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: a high note. I don't know, not crazy about betting

595
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: with him, but give me the Red Raiders here.

596
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: It's also right, it's also Lane Kiffin season off the field,

597
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: not that it isn't for literally every other coach, but

598
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,239
Speaker 1: if he's the portal king, right, it's figuring out if

599
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: you want to. There's so many guys that I think

600
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: in Ole Miss are figuring out if they still have

601
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: a job, if they will not job quote unquote, but

602
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: still figuring out if Oxford is the place for them.

603
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: The defense got noticeably worse this year. They didn't close

604
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, they weren't competitive, but they weren't closing games. Well,

605
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: we saw it in the Egg Bowl, and it's just

606
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: does that take a toll? Right, that are you going

607
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: to get up if you're Ole Miss for Texas Tech

608
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 1: to finish out the year after trying to get up

609
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: for all these huge SEC opponents that I think falls

610
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: under your care thing as well, losing the way that

611
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: they did down the stretch. I just think it's tough

612
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: to sort of turn that aircraft carrier around if you're

613
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: Old Miss.

614
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree with you. And you know,

615
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: despite the fact that I still think Old Miss is

616
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: a better team, it really does come down to for me.

617
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: Who cares? Who cares about this game more? Yeah?

618
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: And you know, by the way, just out of curiosity, yeah,

619
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Speaker 2: quick geography lesson I'm ready, Which do you think is

620
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: closer to Houston, Texas, Lubbock, Texas, or Oxford, Mississippi.

621
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Oxford, Mississippi because of the way you

622
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: phrase this, and because I know Lubbock is way way

623
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: out there that the expanse between central and West Texas

624
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: and Houston of course is in southeast Texas. But it's

625
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: like seven states the meat of Texas. So I'll say Ole,

626
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: miss But maybe it's Lubbock by like a hair, don't.

627
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 2: I believe it's Lubbock by a hair. I'm looking up

628
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: on Google Maps at the moment. It's pretty close. So

629
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: as Bowl locations go, and this is this isn't often

630
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: the case. This is fairly equidistant from Lubbock, which is

631
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: you know, we've described it to Mars and Oxford.

632
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think Tech fans are going

633
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: to travel really really well for this. They're excited to

634
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: be in this game. Big Marquee SEC. Opponent's great in

635
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: a nice place too. I mean, it is a nice

636
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: play to play, a nice place to play a game.

637
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: So good good on Texas Tech for getting this Bowl

638
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: game and for I think having a really successful first

639
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: season under Joey Maguire and eat your face is off

640
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: in Houston, right, this Isn't you have any res in Houston.

641
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I really like Hugos Mexican food place, really really good. Okay,

642
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: sit down Mexican. There's I mean there's great trucks and

643
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: carts and everything like that. Grocery store is all that.

644
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: But in terms of a good sit down Mexican place,

645
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: Hugos you can eat bugs. Oh yeah, I'm good. Eat

646
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: some crickets. It's great.

647
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: Travel ahead in time, if we could, there's the twenty ninth.

648
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: Bad Boy Mowers.

649
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: They're getting in on the Pinstripe Bowl. Now, Dan, okay, Houston,

650
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: see you later. Let's go up north. Let's go to

651
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium. I'm a true historic venue, unlike the Nerd.

652
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: And let's talk about Syracuse and Minnesota, Dan, who you

653
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: got here?

654
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: Probably Minnesota, just because the strengths and weaknesses sort of

655
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: aligned with Minnesota running the ball and Syracuse struggling on

656
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: offense at times, certainly struggling upfront on defense to stop

657
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: the run. Syracuse still had a largely decent offense. It's

658
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: just a matter at this point like who's going to

659
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: hang around?

660
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 3: You know?

661
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Ronde Gadsden broke through Shantucker we already knew was very

662
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: very good. Garrett Trader, I liked more than you liked.

663
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: When healthy. The big thing is Minnesota does such a

664
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: great job of getting the hell off the field. I

665
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: think they were something like fifth and third and out

666
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: forcing three and outs. Yeah, three and outs force percentage

667
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: whatever the rate thereof. So I really like the combination

668
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: of hopefully Minnesota getting a little healthier on offense and

669
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: what Minnesota brings on defense, and they were a beat

670
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: up team all year long. You know, Tanner Morgan missed

671
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: a ton of time, but MOI wera him running through

672
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: the Syracuse front does not seem all that far fetched

673
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: for me. So I think Minnesota will be happy in

674
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: this game. I think Syracuse is going to bring a

675
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: good crowd to Yankee Stadium, a big New York area,

676
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: our big Syracuse area in the Tri state area. So

677
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the energy in this game. But ultimately

678
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I think I like Minnesota here. Syracuse some playmakers on defense,

679
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: just not really up front here. Marlo Wax was very

680
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: very good, and all things considered, by the way, from Minnesota,

681
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of a what if here, right, just because of

682
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: the experience they had on both sides of the ball

683
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Fielding the defense that they did and then losing the

684
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: way they did to Iowa and Purdue just kind of

685
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: stupid and it could have been another ten win year

686
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: for Minnesota.

687
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

688
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: Good, good season for Syracuse. By any stretch, we were

689
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: riding their obituary at the start of the year. We

690
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: weren't into Syracuse at all. But they turned it around

691
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: in a really significant way, and in particular, really good

692
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: start to the season petered out down the stretch, but

693
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: the schedule got more difficult. They took care of business

694
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: early in order to qualify for this Bowl game. Minnesota

695
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: favored by ten now at time of recording, so ten

696
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: to agree with. You tend to agree with Vegas that

697
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: Minnesota is just the better team here. Curious to see

698
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: what happens with Tanner Morgan. He missed the last couple

699
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: of games due to injury, but regardless of whether or

700
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: not he plays, it just feels like Minnesota is probably

701
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: more battle tested.

702
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: I would never bet on Minnesota minus ten.

703
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: Insane, and that's probably that probably extends to most opponents.

704
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: It's just I can't trust him. They're one of the

705
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 2: Mom teams for me, right along with Oklahoma State and

706
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, but teams that I've had a really hard

707
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: time just quantifying with respect of the spread. So I

708
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: probably go Syracuse plus the number, but I think Minnesota

709
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: takes it out right, all right. Chee at bowld time

710
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Baby Okay, Cheese It Bowl Oklahoma Florida State. Interesting matchup.

711
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: Florida State favored by nine and a half points. Oklahoma

712
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: has a fair amount of just movement that we need

713
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: to discuss both.

714
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Starting especially after eating a lot of cheese. It's you

715
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: might expect a lot of movement, you didn't you.

716
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: Or maybe not, or maybe a full lack of movement

717
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: for full lack of movement, right, It's a case of

718
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: extremes here with the Cheeses Bowl. We've got starting tackles

719
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Anton Harrison and Juanya Morris. We've got defensive linemen Jalen Redman,

720
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: running back Eric Gray all opting out to prepare for

721
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 2: the draft. Yep, the oise and the transfer portal.

722
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: We talked about him before.

723
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, on the Florida State side, I do think it's

724
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: a different story. I think it's a team that wants

725
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 2: to be there. Jordan Travis coming back next season. That's

726
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: a big deal. Also, Jammie Robinson as well as Jared

727
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: Verse to bonafit I pro Prospects. I decided we're playing

728
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: in the game. Great, they care, these guys care. It's

729
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: close to home in Orlando. I feel like there is

730
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: no reason to not pick Florida State here, and I

731
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 2: realize that may have also been a double negative, but whatever,

732
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: you get my point.

733
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: You have every reason in the world to pick Florida State.

734
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: Every reason in the world picked Florida State here.

735
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that Oklahoma violates the care

736
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: that the see to any great degree. They do have

737
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: some activity here in the portal with guys opting out,

738
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: so maybe on that level, but it's not like this

739
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: team played demonstrably worse down the stretch. They just after

740
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: that Texas game, everybody's eyes were opened and we all

741
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: realize the same moment in the college football season that

742
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Oklahoma had some.

743
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Work to do.

744
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: So I think I feel better about Florida State in

745
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: this matchup. Again. Nine and a half points. Now, nine

746
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: and a half points.

747
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: Is a lot, but.

748
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: It feels like Florida State is definitely going in a much,

749
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: much different direction, more more optimistic direction, at least at

750
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: present than Oklahoma. So I'm on the knowles here, and

751
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I guess if I were betting, I'd probably lay the points,

752
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: even though that feels like a lot, right.

753
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: I love Florida State here Oklahoma, I still believe in

754
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four improvement, taking steps forward.

755
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: Whatever the always not a huge deal, wasn't a huge

756
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: contributor to their offense. I don't believe Eric Raye a

757
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: big deal, and I just don't. I don't see where

758
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: the points and stops are coming from for Oklahoma. They

759
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: gave up fifty to Texas Tech to end the year.

760
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 1: They lose three or four to end the season, So yes,

761
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: they weren't as bad as they appeared with their backup

762
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: quarterback against Texas or whoever TCU. But whatever it needs fixing,

763
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: which is a lot for Oklahoma, it's not going to

764
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: happen between Thanksgiving and this week. So I'm in on

765
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: Florida State. Oklahoma one of those teams that's just ready

766
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: to be done with year one, ready to be done

767
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: with your one.

768
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on and let's talk about the

769
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: Valero Alamobile.

770
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: Dan another game. You should be circling in red sharpie

771
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: to you know, cancel all plans and find a seat

772
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: on a comfortable couch. Washington Texas Texas four point favorite

773
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: is the last TI I'm saying. I don't know if

774
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: you have something else. Four point four points. Jon Robinson, Yeah,

775
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: Bjehon Robinson, Rosehaan Johnson, Demarvian Overshown obviously the huge names

776
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: not playing in this game, but Texas a very quiet

777
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: improved year over the course of the season, especially on defense. Now,

778
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: not playing with Overshown is a big deal, but the

779
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: offensive line gets better. Quinn Ewers slowly but surely makes

780
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: more plays. Not having Bjon Robinson though, that's a big deal. Yeah.

781
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Now Texas is still playing against the Washington defense. The

782
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: Washington defense has a couple playmakers up front, but by

783
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: and large not that good a beatable defense. This Washington

784
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: team won a lot of games, not really be because

785
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: what they were able to do on defense. Jeremiah Martin,

786
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: the A and M transfer very very good upfront, Braylan

787
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Trice good. But I still think Texas should be able

788
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: to move the ball. The question is who's running the ball,

789
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: who's catching the ball? How into This game is Quinn yours.

790
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: I think it substantially show. It's in San Antonio, it's

791
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: the Alamo Bowl. I can't wait to watch this Washington

792
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: team throw because that's what they do well, throw into

793
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: this Texas defense. That's going to be the fun of

794
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: this game because I think both these teams will be inspired.

795
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: It's not like they had. You know, Washington was one

796
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the Pac twelve for sure

797
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: and finish the season on a very strong note. Maybe

798
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: should have lost to Oregon, but that's what good teams do.

799
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: They win losable games, and so I just I think

800
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: both teams are going to be up for this one.

801
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a lot of juice in

802
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: the Alamodome. Washington fans have been sort of through the

803
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: desert of the Jimmy Lake era and have come out

804
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: the other side, so they should travel well. This is

805
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: just a full on good game. It's a full on

806
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: good game that's going to see some Texas youth on offense.

807
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: But can't Wait. Can't Wait should be very very fun.

808
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: And I think I leen Washington a little bit because

809
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: I Texas has been prone to starts and stops on offense,

810
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: and I don't fully trust Quinn Yours like I trust

811
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix. So I'm going with the better quarterback here.

812
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: But I don't feel strongly about a pick in this one.

813
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've kind of gone back and forth in this one.

814
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: I do think the loss of Bijon and Roshan, in

815
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: particular Jon Robinson Roshan Johnson on the Texas side is

816
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: going to have a pretty big impact. This is not

817
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: especially great Washington defense, no, which is a bit of

818
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: a departure, right. I mean we're used to talking about

819
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: the Washington defense almost in kind of like a half

820
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: team since r Yeah, where they've been very, very solid

821
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, and this year wasn't

822
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: as much the case. Both against the run and the pass,

823
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 2: they've been severely lacking.

824
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: I feel like whoever.

825
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: Texas plugs in will have success on the ground, and

826
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: I am curious to see what Quinn Ewers looks like

827
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: against this defense, which has not been very good at

828
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: stopping the pass. I suspect this is going to be

829
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: fun as hell. This is one of those thirty eight

830
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: to thirty four games where it comes down to the

831
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: wire where the last team to have the ball wins

832
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: where it's just a straight up shootout a lot of points.

833
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: The ala mobole is I think accustomed to being a

834
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: really fun matchup, definitely, and so I think for sure

835
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be one of those games, as

836
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: you said that you want to circle on the calendar

837
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: and make sure you're in front of. So if I'm

838
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 2: picking here, I go Washington because I feel like they'll

839
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: be a little bit more out for this game. I

840
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: trust Michael Penix, I guess a little bit more than

841
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 2: I trust anything on the Texas side. On offense, I

842
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: do think this is going to be an offensive game

843
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: with a lot of points. But four points Texas favor

844
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: by four, Texas favor by four.

845
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Take Washington plus four. Washington plus four. Washington finished the

846
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: year as the number one points per drive offense, So

847
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: the most efficient scoring offen in the nation. Wow, it's

848
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: pack twelve defenses. Yeah yeah, so all all in proper context,

849
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: but doing what a good offense should do against those defenses.

850
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. We've got a couple more

851
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: games here to discuss. Dan, Let's go to tomorrow.

852
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: As we are.

853
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: Currently at Thursday, the twenty ninth, Oh Okay.

854
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: Travel ahead in time. Woo do but do Friday, December

855
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: thirtieth Duke's mail ball. Huh both coaches have agreed to

856
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: bathe Now, do you think the most efficient mayonnaise propulsion

857
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: mechanism is simply dumping? I know it's you know, tied

858
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: into football and you know the gatorade bath or whatever.

859
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Do you think in terms of pure efficiency, pure comedy,

860
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: pure uh spread? I don't know what word I'm looking for,

861
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: but spreads a good one with mayonnaise. Do you think

862
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: that the cooler dump is the best way to go

863
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: about celebrating a victory here? I don't tell me what

864
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: you think. I don't, I don't.

865
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw what happened to Shane Beemer last year.

866
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, took it hit.

867
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 2: What happened to Shane Beemer last year was borderline AsSalt.

868
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I agree, and they didn't think it through.

869
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: The problem with mayo is that it binds to the

870
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: sides of the plastic within the cooler. And so the

871
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: two people that were shaking it out did their best.

872
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: They clunked them on the head, was smoothly?

873
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: Was it was there? Whether they watered it down at all?

874
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: I think they may have tried, but without applying like

875
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: oil or something to the sides of the cooler, you're

876
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: going to have that happen again. What I would like

877
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: to see from Duke's Mayo, since they already seem to

878
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: have really committed to this bit on social media, I'd

879
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: like to see them go a little bit.

880
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: Farther in real life.

881
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: Honestly, I would like to see them build some sort

882
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: of double Dare style contraption where the coach stands under it.

883
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 2: They flip a switch and then there's like a vat

884
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: or something that just kind of from from a safe

885
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: height allows the mayo to flow smoothly through the system,

886
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: to flow directly down via gravity onto the coach standing

887
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: on like a tarp.

888
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: You know.

889
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Maybe it's one of those things. Maybe it's something that

890
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: they can bring out onto midfield and make a big

891
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: deal out of this. But they could tarp the thing.

892
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: They could put tarps down in the field for easy

893
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: clean up. But they have this contraption that they bring

894
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: out that they flip a switch and then all the

895
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: mayo just flows down nice and smoothly without the need

896
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 2: for you know, people perhaps clunking a coach in the head.

897
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: All right, I have two alternatives. Tie one, we get

898
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: super slow motion cameras. I think there should be super

899
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: slow motion cameras present no matter what the Mayo celebrate.

900
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I agree with that absolutely. How do you feel about

901
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: a water down Mayo super Soaker? No, No, that's disgusting.

902
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: That's always hold the worst thing you can imagineable? What

903
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: about what about water balloons? But philters that was another suggestion.

904
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: That was my don't hate for the super soakern't who's

905
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: throwing them. You get the super soaker, but then you're

906
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: dealing with impact and injury. Right, You're dealing with a

907
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: foreign substance, the balloon itself, the rubber balloon, and you

908
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: don't want to hurt anybody, or you don't want to

909
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: risk hurting somebody. Who are the two coaches in this game?

910
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: Two coaches in this game are Mike Locksleep and Dave Duran.

911
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: Okay, doesn't seem like two guys who like yucking around

912
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: all that much, now, So that's tough with that. Let

913
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: me hit you with my alternative idea. This is straightforward,

914
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: easy to acquire Mayo dunk tank who says, no, okay,

915
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: you're just buried in the slop. Ye mayonnaise. There's really

916
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: no escape then, huh. Now Mayo slipping slide. It's a risk.

917
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: It's an ankle risk. It's a hip risk, is it not,

918
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: young dudes, No, I think dunk tank because Mayo can

919
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: be a forgiving substance to fall into.

920
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: I kind of, you know, I'm thinking a little bit.

921
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm hearkening back to the days of Seinfeld. But Kramer

922
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: tried it once. He put a ball of oil out

923
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: the window. Remember when he had the idea for how

924
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: they were going to prevent oil spills. Yeah, so maybe

925
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: like a really big balloon of mayo that is dropped

926
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: onto the winning coach by the player of the game

927
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: from some sort of platform.

928
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: It's a neck risk, though, m it could be a

929
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: neck rix. Yeah. I'm trying to think of other ways

930
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: to slime and apply, like, is there something exploding? See,

931
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: then you're getting into There is no coach who is

932
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: going to agree to having exploding mayonnaise in slow motion

933
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: in four k exists on the internet forever. The visual

934
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: is too unfortunate. Yeah, yeah, that's not good. So I

935
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: say dunk tank. Dunk tank is good, old clean fun,

936
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 1: not clean mayo.

937
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: Dunk tank. Okay, well, we'll see what they do. You know,

938
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: they have too things. They can't do what they did

939
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: last year. I would also they can't do that. I

940
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: would also suggest free suggestion for the Duke's Mayo bowl

941
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: people in the way that the Olympics celebrates a person

942
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: handing off the torch to another person. I would like

943
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: whatever the mayo vehicle is to, I want to see

944
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: it traveling, you know, throughout the Games of Charlotte. Yeah,

945
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 2: traveling throughout Metro Charlotte and treated like the torch finally

946
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: to be disposed of on the coach's head.

947
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Can they drop it from

948
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: a drone? Drone mayo? I don't hate that. I mean

949
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: that would really be pushing the limits of technology. What

950
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: I think it would have to be though, it would

951
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: have to be some sort of I don't know, if

952
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: it's a trap release of the mayo. If you can

953
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: imagine that a drone that has a a in the

954
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: way that planes and helicopters release the chemicals fighting fires

955
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: and hills and forests and stuff like that. Sure, so

956
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: you would have a an open compartment or do you

957
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: have like some sort of flying squirt down? Okay, a

958
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: flying squirt down of the Mayo Again. If I'm Dave

959
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Dori and if I'm Mike Loxley, there's just zero chance

960
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: that I allow something elaborate to have and happen in

961
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: four K slow motion of being squirted with Mayo that

962
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: you just want it over in one fell swoop. But

963
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: if we're getting creative with this, Maodrone not your worst idea.

964
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: Maodrone could be one of my better ideas. Actually, is

965
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 1: mayodrone dot Com available? I can look that up. Please

966
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: look that up. I mean, if it's twelve dollars, it

967
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 1: might pay off for us down the line. Mayo Drone

968
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: is available fifteen bucks. You want me to get it?

969
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: I think we should get it, all right, I'm gonna

970
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: buy it right now. What's our new Who's playing in

971
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: this game? By the way, Maryland, n C State?

972
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: Who are you picking? Maryland, Ency State, NC State. I'm

973
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna roll with deef.

974
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go NC State, Maryland favored by one, I'll go,

975
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: I'll go n CEE state. Maryland going to be down

976
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 2: a couple of guys. Tony the Tiger's sun Bowl Dan

977
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: mm hmm, Pitt versus UCLA Ucla favored by four.

978
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: Who you got Ucla. I actually really like this matchup,

979
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: but it's what Nick Patty starting for Pitt, and I

980
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: do not trust him. I don't trust the UCLA defense

981
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: that has been somewhat shaky all year long. But they

982
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: lose their defensive coordinator to illness for a good chunk

983
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: of the season, so that obviously is going to affect things.

984
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: Good linebacker Laatu lat To. I believe you know the

985
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: pit team was. They beat teams they should have and

986
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't beat teams they shouldn't have. They lost to Georgia Tech,

987
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: which wasn't great. Elijah Cansey, by the way, huge deal

988
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: upfront for Pitt. Defensive tackle, just absolute beast, all American,

989
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: So I enjoy that. But I think UCLA's ability to

990
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 1: run the ball, even though they didn't finish all that strongly,

991
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: losing to Arizona, needing to come back to beat Cal,

992
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: losing to us SEE, giving up what they did in

993
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: that rivalry game. I'm not crazy about how they ended

994
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: the season, but I still think there's juice around UCLA

995
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: and what was probably a top seven or eight offense

996
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: this year.

997
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm with you. Give me UCLA minus four.

998
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: I think if Pitt had a replacement level like average

999
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: to above average quarterback situation, even if it were Keaton Slovas,

1000
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: I think I would like Pitt. But Keaton Slovas out

1001
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: into the portal again, and so I worry that Pitt

1002
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: is going to struggle as a one note offense with

1003
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: Nick Patty, that he's not going to be a huge

1004
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: threat through the air. I think that's good analysis. I

1005
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: like that.

1006
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 2: By the way, we now own Mayodrone dot Com. I

1007
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: just bought it boom fifteen bucks. All right, let's go

1008
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 2: to the Gator Bowl tax Slayer Gator Bowl Notre Dame

1009
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 2: minus two against South Carolina. They played this one in Jacksonville,

1010
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: three thirty pm Eastern time on Friday. Again, the thirtieth

1011
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is going to be down. Michael Mayer and

1012
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: Isaiah Foski, both of the clear for the draft, both

1013
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: have opted out. Drew Pine is transferred to ASU, Yes

1014
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: he has, I mean, not a bad upgrade for him. Man,

1015
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: good for him to go to ASU from Notre Dame.

1016
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: Better weather, so you have that. I don't know what

1017
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham's doing. I guess he just needs depth, but

1018
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 2: got players I saw some folks online talking about Drew

1019
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: Pine a key building block and impact transfer.

1020
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: Maybe pump the brakes just a little bit with that, guys. Okay,

1021
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: here's the thing. This is where I'm gonna stop you.

1022
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: Just pump the brakes, guys. As it relates to Drew Pine,

1023
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't think he's an especially great quarterback. But there

1024
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of worse quarterbacks than Drew hie is

1025
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: this this is your Notre dame standard saying he's not

1026
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 1: good enough for that? That's fine, the totally reasonable, totally correct,

1027
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: totally defensible.

1028
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: If we want to go back to a Seinfeld reference, yeah,

1029
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: are you gonna go full Krueger? What the hell we

1030
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: need a guy?

1031
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1032
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: What the hell we need a guy? I could go

1033
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: either way on you, Jordan, but we need a guy.

1034
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: You need Yeah, you need competence, And I think Drew

1035
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: Pine at his best, at near his best, is competent,

1036
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: locks in on guys, of course, and short and is

1037
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: not going to read a defense like an All American whatever.

1038
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: But in terms of what Arizona State had this year

1039
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: has moving forward, I think Arizona State can count on

1040
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Drew Pine not throwing three interceptions a game and not

1041
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: completing twenty seven percent of his passes. Like, I think

1042
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: he can have a decent ratio and will be fine

1043
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: as a stopgap guy until Kenny Dillingham fills out that roster.

1044
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 2: I think he's terrible. Oh Hoestly, I think I think

1045
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: he's a terrible quarterback. He's probably a good kid, and

1046
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 2: so I hate to be mean. Yeah, I think he's

1047
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: a terrible quarterback who locks in on one guy. And

1048
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: I don't think ASU has that.

1049
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: One guy to lock in.

1050
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh no, absolutely not right, So I get it on

1051
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: one level, if you're ASU, the roster's been decimated. The

1052
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: previous regime didn't really pay as much attention to recruiting

1053
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: as it should have, and so you're just look at

1054
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 2: there is that element of Kruger like, hey, what the

1055
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 2: hell we need a guy.

1056
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: The previous regime arguably played too much attention to recruit.

1057
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, didn't do it. Didn't do a good enough

1058
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 2: job in the recruit department, let's say one way or

1059
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: the other. Drew Pine is also leaving Notre Dame because

1060
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: they basically told him we're going to take a transfer

1061
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 2: and you can compete for the job. You're not guarantee

1062
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: the job going at the next season. So the fact

1063
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 2: that he chose ASU means that either he liked ASU

1064
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: better or they told him something different that made him

1065
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: think he's got better chances as you better not roll

1066
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: out next season with Drew Pine. I saw some people

1067
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: online talking how like, hey, Kenny Dillingham resurrected Bo Nicks

1068
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 2: if he can do the same with Drew. Let me

1069
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: stop you right there, guys. Yeah, let's just let's pump

1070
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 2: the brakes. I saw somebody else talking up, hey, look

1071
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: at what Drew Pine did for Michael meher No, no,

1072
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 2: look at what Michael Merrit did for Drew Pine. Name names, ty,

1073
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: but just everybody pump the brakes here and Drew Pine.

1074
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: It is a transfer.

1075
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: It is not the transfer you're waiting for. If you're

1076
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 2: an ASU fan. He is not that good.

1077
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: He just is.

1078
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 2: He's not that good. I hope he does well. I'm

1079
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: not rooting against him actively. I'm just telling you be advised,

1080
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:10,959
Speaker 2: he ain't that good.

1081
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: He's all right.

1082
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 2: You want to add, Notre Dame's winning this game, Okay,

1083
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is winning this game. So in the absence

1084
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: of Drew Pine, it means we get to see Tyler Buckner.

1085
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: It means that maybe neither you nor I are ready

1086
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: for Steve Angeli. Damn, I don't think you're ready for Angeli.

1087
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't think yep.

1088
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: But we're going to see a little bit of Buckner,

1089
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: and I think Buckner's got a lot to play for

1090
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: here because he's been away from this team for a

1091
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: good long time. Maybe he doesn't have Michael Mayer and

1092
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: maybe they're without Isaiah Foski, but I think the rest

1093
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: of them will be geared up and ready to play

1094
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 2: in this game, and Buckner's got a lot to prove.

1095
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: Buckner is basically fighting for his right to be the

1096
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: starting quarterback next year because Notre Dame's going to take

1097
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 2: a transfer and Buckner is going to have to compete

1098
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: for it. So this is his chance to have that

1099
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: stage all to himself. Maybe a little bit of Steve

1100
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: on jelly, but I think Bucker is going to be

1101
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 2: the guy to watch and I think he's going.

1102
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: To show out.

1103
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: I think he will have a really really good opportunity

1104
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: to put up a game here against South Carolina because

1105
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: South Carolina is going to be without Cam Smith, their

1106
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: top cornerback. They've also got transfers in the form of

1107
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: Marshaun Lloyd, Jaheim Bell, Austin Stagner, Spencer Ratler is gonna play,

1108
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: but I do think that the line in front of

1109
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: him remains a concern. It's been a concern all year.

1110
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's pretty good upfront, and even without Fosky, they

1111
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: should be able to apply pressure.

1112
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: On top. They lost their offensive coordinators.

1113
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: On top of that, Marcus Saderfield also going to Nebraska,

1114
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: so just feels like a spot for me where Notre

1115
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: Dame's got a lot more to play for. And the

1116
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: way that South Carolina closed out the season should not

1117
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: be under sold. They played really well down the stretch,

1118
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: beating both Tennessee and Clemson, who will be playing in

1119
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: the Orange Bowl. We'll talk about that one, you know,

1120
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: on our next show. But like I like what South

1121
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 2: Carolina did getting to this point is a great testament

1122
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: to the Shane Beemer era. He's a good coach at

1123
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 2: the right time for this program, and he will continue

1124
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: to ratchet things up. But I think Notre Dame's a

1125
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: pick here.

1126
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: You give me South Carolina down whoever they're down, but

1127
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: you give me Shane Beemer. I'm a Beamer Dreamer tie

1128
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: with a little bit of time to get this team up,

1129
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: combined with Notre Dame in the postseason, and what the

1130
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: universe feels about that Notre Dame forcing their starting quarterback

1131
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: out kind of sort of maybe without their best offensive weapon.

1132
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm going South Carolina juice here? What does it tell you? Well,

1133
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. I can't do it. Okay,

1134
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: that just be mean.

1135
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: I know.

1136
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: And you are the now owner of mayodrone dot com,

1137
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: so you have to watch the public image.

1138
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: That's a solvable media purchase on the company card right there.

1139
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But now I'm look, I'm.

1140
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: I just just let's just everybody pumped the breaks and

1141
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 2: Drew p Okay. I realize that we need to put

1142
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: the tweets and we need to write the articles and

1143
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: all that, But everybody, what.

1144
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: About a pump the cream? A cream pie to the

1145
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: face but instead of whipcream, it's mayonnaise. We still talk.

1146
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: This is a different Bowl game altogether. I know, I mean,

1147
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: we could feed the loser to a live gator, but

1148
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 2: that might not be for TV.

1149
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: But the gator is made of may.

1150
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: May gatormeyo dot com. Should we get the Mayo Gator. No,

1151
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: we can't do all of these URLs.

1152
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 3: No.

1153
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 2: Final game of the day the Barstool Sports Arizona Bowl. Dan,

1154
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 2: it's Ohio.

1155
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wyoming, I'm still gonna I'm still gonna pick against

1156
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: the Mac team, even though Wyoming's basically without their entire

1157
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: roster in this game, Wyoming couldn't throw with their roster.

1158
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: Ohio actually finished the season quite strong after starting out disappointingly,

1159
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: but still I'm sticking with my guns here. Devon Harris

1160
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: very good for Wyoming on defense. Vonnie Watkins for Ohio

1161
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: and Ohio. The Bobcats won seven of eight I saw

1162
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: last I saw that it was sort of a pick

1163
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: them even spread here, just because there's so much in

1164
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 1: the way of an unknown. But Ohio obviously finished the

1165
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: season poorly, not really doing much on offense against Toledo,

1166
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: and Wyoming was sort of all over the place, as

1167
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: they always are. But I guess I'm going Cowboys there

1168
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: in a weird matchup. Give me Wyoming in the desert,

1169
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: Wyoming in the desert, I'm going to go. I'm going

1170
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: to go Ohio here.

1171
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned that Wyoming is without their roster. It's

1172
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: not just their roster. It's this is a team that

1173
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: liked to run the ball, or I should say that

1174
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: clear running back off that only could run the ball,

1175
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: and they're very decimated on that side. So I think

1176
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: the only answer here is Ohio, even despite the fact

1177
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 2: that they've got some injuries.

1178
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: Yep, and that's some things that contend with So can't

1179
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: argue it. That does it.

1180
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Here's what we got left now. On the next show

1181
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 2: that you're going to hear from us on the feed,

1182
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 2: you will hear the Orange Bowl, the Sugar Bowl, both

1183
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: of the both of the playoff games, the Fiesta and

1184
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: the Peach in addition to the Cotton and the Rose.

1185
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: Will also close.

1186
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: Things out talking about the Music City Bowl or we

1187
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: rely a Quest Bowl. That's a mouthful. And the Citrus Bowl,

1188
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: cheez it Citrus Bowl. Yeah, that'll be on the next show.

1189
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: We'll go through those games a little bit more detail. Obviously,

1190
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: the playoff games are going to be the centerpiece of

1191
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: that discussion, given the fact that both are on New

1192
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. I hate it, but we can play the

1193
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel sound to make us feel better about it.

1194
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Can I give you one more? One more American male Warrior.

1195
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: Now hear me out. There is a course and it

1196
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: is not unlike the American Ninja Warrior course. It is

1197
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: softened up a little because Mike Loxley and Dave darn

1198
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: are both middle aged men. Sure, and instead of water,

1199
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: it's mayonnaise.

1200
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: I mean that would be slippery, really slippery. And if

1201
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: you were worried about this.

1202
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: Well, the course is the same. The course is the

1203
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: same material. Okay, but there are various traps in the

1204
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: way that on the American Ninja Warrior course you can

1205
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: fall into water. Yeah, you fall into a mayo tank. Okay,

1206
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: So as you are jumping to get to the monkey

1207
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: bars or whatever and you just miss them, your downfall

1208
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: is not into a tank, it's into a giant How

1209
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: are we bowl of mayonnaise? How are we transporting all

1210
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: this mayo to the game truck? Did they make mayo tankers?

1211
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: Like?

1212
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: How are we getting this big pool of mayo there?

1213
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 2: Because it seems like it would be a bit of

1214
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: a hassle to fill a cooler with it, let alone.

1215
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, a full like, I mean, mayo has

1216
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: to be produced and mass somewhere. I know.

1217
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: I'm assuming though that brought process just shoots it right

1218
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: into the bottle.

1219
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, celebratory Mayo Jacuzzi after the game, Mayo Jacuzzi,

1220
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: hot name Mayo Jacuzzi. Oh man, oh you can keep

1221
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 1: it cool. I'm just saying it's a hot tub of Mayo.

1222
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: It's a jacuzzi of Mayo.

1223
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: That it's just the winning team all gets all gets

1224
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: a square bottle of Duke's Mayo and then just take

1225
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: their turns dousing the coach with it.

1226
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I said, a super soaker. The imagery

1227
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: is not great now, the American Mayo Warrior. If you

1228
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: do it right.

1229
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 2: From the bottle, you get a little bit more, a

1230
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: little bit more exposure for Duke's show and the label

1231
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: chunk here.

1232
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, man, this is.

1233
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: Some earned media here for Duke's Mayo.

1234
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1235
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: I never said Dukes. You said Duke. I was just

1236
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: talking Mayo. Yeah.

1237
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: Well, Duke's Mayo is a sponsor. I know they paid

1238
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 2: handsibly for that, I'm sure. Okay, Uh, weird show. Weird

1239
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: way to conclude the show. But a Bowl preview nonetheless,

1240
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: As I said, New Year's six and a handful of

1241
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: other Bowl games coming your way. When we drop the

1242
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: podcast on Thursday. Soliverablelive dot com is where you can

1243
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: go to get tickets. As we get on the other

1244
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: side of this here calendar into twenty twenty, it's gonna

1245
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 2: be all systems.

1246
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: Go for the live show boom.

1247
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: We will obviously have two fan bases that are going

1248
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to descend upon LA to watch this championship game, and

1249
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 2: we would encourage you to buy your tickets before those

1250
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: two respective fan bases gobble up what's left.

1251
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait for it.

1252
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 3: Tye.

1253
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the best for that guy over there,

1254
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilton Brandt,

1255
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: thanks for downloading, listening, playing along at home.

1256
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: One more show before than New Year. We'll talk about

1257
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: say something peace,