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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. And it is a Thursday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a dreary day, but yeah, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: thing yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it was kind of warm this morning

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Speaker 3: and then it's getting kind of chillier and drearier. And

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Speaker 3: last night I did a night show with Tim Bens

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Speaker 3: and our buddy shirtless Tom Offerman, and way home, I

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Speaker 3: couldn't see the road. It was just like fog and nasty,

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Speaker 3: and you know usually that's you know, wintery. Yeah, not

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Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, yeah, so that's where we're at.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Steelers heading to Seattle. Speaking of rain

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Speaker 2: and fog.

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Speaker 3: That's maybe that's gearing him up, getting him in the

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Speaker 3: right mindset.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's kind of rain.

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Speaker 3: This is what I get used to. Yeah, have you

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Speaker 3: seen any kind of weather report. I haven't. I knew generally.

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Speaker 2: Supposed to be in the fifties, I think on Sunday,

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Speaker 2: so not too bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there'll be some kind of yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: wetness or something.

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Speaker 2: It's just it'll be Seattle and Pittsburgh weather wise, really

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Speaker 2: aren't that different.

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Speaker 3: There's no rains a ton out there.

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Speaker 2: I think it rains on average one more day a

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Speaker 2: year in Seattle than Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, okay, so I'll never guess that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody calls, you know, Pittsburgh the rainy city, or

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Speaker 2: I think's rain with Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we get. I just think that neck

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Speaker 3: of the Woods is that much that much rainier. But

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Speaker 3: what do I know? Not geography class with Matt and

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Speaker 3: Dale here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good thing for that. Yeah, actually I did very

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Speaker 2: well in geography, Okay at best.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure my fifteen year old daughter doesn't know

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Speaker 3: where China is at. So she asked where Missouri was

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Speaker 3: the other day, and we were so kind of failing

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Speaker 3: on that front. I'm not sure why we're playing the

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Speaker 3: school tax as we.

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Speaker 4: Are, but.

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Speaker 2: Where's Missouri? Where's Ohio?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So Matt looking at we didn't, of course have the

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks' injury.

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Speaker 3: Report enough time.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and we went over their roster yesterday and

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Speaker 2: well we probably could have just done this and gone

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Speaker 2: over their injury.

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Speaker 3: Pretty much covers everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole same thing. So guys who did not

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Speaker 2: practice yesterday for and again this would be their Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: We'll get there Thursday later today. Wide receiver d s

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Speaker 2: Gridge with ribs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's kind of falling wait on the death

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Speaker 3: chart anyway.

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jason Peters with a foot.

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Speaker 3: Which she plays a lot and sometimes guards sometimes tackle,

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Speaker 3: you know, unbelievable story by the way. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: like almost our age.

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Speaker 2: Running back Kenneth Walker with a shoulder and an illness.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because he's really taken over the workload. I mean

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Speaker 3: he's a very very good player.

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Speaker 2: Linebacker Nick Bloor with a knee.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just a special teamer.

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Speaker 2: Linebacker Jordan Brooks with an ankle.

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Speaker 3: He's probably their best linebacker. He's the best linebacker. Defends

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Speaker 3: a lot more of mister Bush. Yes, yes, what's for him?

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Speaker 2: Number zero, number zero, which is kind of ironic, last

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Speaker 2: in your hearts. Yes. Defensive end Mario Edwards. Okay, defensive

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Speaker 2: end Draymont Jones Edwards with a knee, Jones with a shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Jones is a really good player. I mean he's an

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Speaker 3: undersized de tackle, but on throwing downs he's very effective.

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Speaker 3: They gave him a ton of money from Denver high

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Speaker 3: steak guy. People might remember, probably in his six or

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Speaker 3: seventh year, fifth pro. I think, actually, the more I

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Speaker 3: think about it, it will be outside. We talked about

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Speaker 3: him as an edge on the depth chart, but that's

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Speaker 3: not really what he does. But he would be a.

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Speaker 2: Big loss tight end noo ah fan with a knee.

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Speaker 3: Also clearly their best guy at that position, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then two guys were resting, Bobby Wagner and Jarn Reid.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would assume Wagner takes off every Wednesday. Probably

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Speaker 3: he's guessing, but Reid's are second leading sacker. He's more

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Speaker 3: of a Nosi ish type guy, like a Benton style.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Bent's a much better player, but I mean

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Speaker 3: he's valuable to those I mean he gets after the

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Speaker 3: quarterback and he's been on the league for so that's.

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Speaker 2: The group that wasn't practicing, the group that was limited.

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Speaker 2: And when I say group, I said, I mean these

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Speaker 2: are I don't know how they ran and practice yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the guys who were limited. Guard Anthony Bradford with an elbow.

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Speaker 3: He's starting right I believe. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wide receiver Jake Bobo with a knee.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's the fourth, but you see him out there.

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Speaker 2: Safety Jamal Adams with a knee.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody knows who he is, but he's quite

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Speaker 3: an enigma.

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Speaker 2: Cornerback Devin Witherspoon with a hip.

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Speaker 3: That's probably the biggest one to watch. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean he's missed some time and he's important to those guys.

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Speaker 2: Damian Lewis with a neck.

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Speaker 3: He's also starter. Yeah, I mister starting guards.

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Speaker 2: Safety Quadra Diggs and wide receiver Tyler Lockett were both resting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're good players, but veterans.

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Speaker 2: And wide receiver Jackson Smith and Jig but with a knee. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's three of your top four receivers.

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Speaker 3: Yes, all, but dk both your starting guards, one of

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Speaker 3: your best d linemen, you're.

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Speaker 2: Starting inside linebacker, you're starting running back.

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Speaker 3: Best corner sorry running back. Yeah, probably missing something too

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Speaker 3: because there was a lot of names there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they practiced.

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Speaker 3: I think Jason Peters is some version of a starter

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Speaker 2: Probably would have been out there in place with one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how they ran anything yesterday. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then they have three guys who were uh listed

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Speaker 2: on the injury report but were full participants. That was

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle Abraham Lucas started, Yeah, starting right, cornerback Trey

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Speaker 2: defensive end. Leonard Williams with an ankle, he.

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Speaker 3: Plays all the time. Yeah. So wow, imagine like being

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Speaker 3: the training staff that week, they knowing things about those

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Speaker 2: The work on these guys, Like how do they do they?

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Speaker 3: I assume they just make appointments like every ten minutes,

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Speaker 3: and now one comes in every half hour. You can't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's quite a lengthy one, it is.

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Speaker 3: And a lot of those were like DMPs, I mean

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Speaker 3: not just veteran days off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, man, I know when we were talking about

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Speaker 2: their roster yesterday, Yeah, we went through you know, the

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Speaker 2: position by position stuff. You mentioned that you know, Leonard

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Speaker 2: Williams in your opinion is Cam Hayward Like yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean sty will play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Since week six, I'm looking for the exact numbers here

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Speaker 2: since week six, which is about the time that they

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Speaker 2: got him.

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Speaker 3: I would say he was a trade deadline guy, maybe

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Speaker 3: even a little before.

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Speaker 2: Actually since since week eight, so that's right a round ten,

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Speaker 2: So it's right around that time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Halloween I think was the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: Seattle's allowing twenty six points per game, which is fourth

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Speaker 2: most in the league over that period, in one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty seven point nine rushing yards per game. It's brutal,

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Speaker 2: which is the second most since week eight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely brutal. They don't have well, I

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Speaker 3: think there's a lot of reasons. I think Wagner ain't

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Speaker 3: what he used to be. I think their d tackles

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Speaker 3: are more penetrators, which doesn't paint him in the Hayward

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Speaker 3: light obviously, you know, but he is an explosive in

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Speaker 3: his young years. But he's not a nose, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and Jones definitely isn't a nose. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if Red is kind of a nose. But he's

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Speaker 3: been more of a pocket pusher lately. None of those

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Speaker 3: allre pretty high picks, you know, longer, leaner pretty good

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Speaker 3: athletes in their best day, big school guys, but they

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Speaker 3: don't have a plugger, a guy that demands a double

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Speaker 3: team in the run game. And then the other thing

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Speaker 3: I found today's looking at like their personnel stuff. They're

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Speaker 3: a nickel a lot and that's fine, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure it's often with Adams as their nickel

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Speaker 3: or a third corner, but either way, they're kind of light.

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one on any position is really a bulky, heavier,

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Speaker 3: you know, splatter. The other thing, too, is I know

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Speaker 3: boy A Mofe rightfully so when he's breaking out a

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Speaker 3: little bit here in the second year. But their edges

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Speaker 3: are light. I mean they're real light.

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Speaker 2: And they actually played Devin Bush someone on the edge.

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Speaker 3: I saw that some I don't know how much that

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Speaker 2: I mean, not only is he light, he's short.

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Speaker 3: He short, Andy's light. He does of length. Yeah, some

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Speaker 3: with their length. But I mean, I know, like Watt

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Speaker 3: has a narrow waste, but a lot of these guys

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Speaker 3: are real narrow wasted like track athlete types. You know

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Speaker 3: that hauld explode out the stands, long limbs, but they're

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Speaker 3: not strong. We're strong with the point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird because if you look at it, before

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Speaker 2: week eight, they were allowing twenty three point five points

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Speaker 2: per game, which is tenth most.

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Speaker 3: Still not good, No, it's not great.

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Speaker 2: Three hundred and fifty eight yards per game, which was

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Speaker 2: seventh most, one hundred and twenty nine point six rushing yards,

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Speaker 2: which was sixth most. And it's gotten worse and worse

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Speaker 2: and worse it has.

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Speaker 3: And I'll pull some stuff up too, but the Titans

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Speaker 3: pretty much ran all over them. Yeah, I mean they

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Speaker 3: were in control game for two straight weeks. Now the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks have had to come back with like a last

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Speaker 3: minute drive to win this thing, you know, against you know, Titan.

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Speaker 3: They're a better team than Tennessee. I mean they were

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Speaker 3: in Tennessee and didn't start great, but still, I mean

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Speaker 3: when the team like the Titans is controlling the flow

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Speaker 3: of the game on the ground and Derrick Henry's not

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Speaker 3: what he used to be either, it's a little concerning.

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Speaker 3: And I keep going back to it, and I know

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Speaker 3: it gets repetitive every week. But I do think it

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Speaker 3: has something to do with just how the Steelers are

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Speaker 3: right now that if they can run the ball, I

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Speaker 3: always think I always start with that, and against a

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Speaker 3: team like this on the road, loud environment, I really

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Speaker 3: think that if the Steelers can run the ball from

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Speaker 3: have to be big chunks. And the Steelers have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really think in looking at this game,

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Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty one against the Giants. Okay, they

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If this team tries and Walkers are definitely their best

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Speaker 2: If you're going to come out and just say, hey,

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Speaker 2: You can throw you can you'll complete some passes, but

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Speaker 3: This is the worst time a possession team in the league.

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Speaker 2: Here's the So since Week twelve, the are the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: Yeah, every week. That's awful. The last three week they

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Speaker 3: Wow, I mean they're average. They're allowing five point six

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And looking at their schedule here, the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: Over really and they've been pretty good with turnovers. I

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Speaker 3: I mean they're seventh best in the league in giveaways

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think if if you Steelers can turn

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's over the course of the season, absolutely the

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Speaker 2: And so you know, I think that if you can,

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Speaker 3: Long way, because if you're plus one and turnovers, I

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Speaker 2: Or even if it's two to one something along the lines.

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Speaker 2: You can't you can't lose the turnover battle, and it's

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Speaker 2: I think if you turn this team over, I think

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Speaker 3: I tend to think so too. I really think it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the key is getting you know, in those situations,

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Speaker 2: convert third downs very well, no, not at all, really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that discrepancy is massive too, just like their run discrepancy.

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Speaker 3: You know, So is it something that their defense or

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Speaker 2: Some of this coincides with the you know, the lack

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Speaker 3: By the way, in Baltimore, they got smoked him.

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Speaker 2: They get smoke smoked to the next week they played,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would think that's a win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't. Wasn't sixteen against San Francisco, twenty against Philadelphia,

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Speaker 3: It's okay, But I mean they're very talented offense.

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Speaker 2: Early in the season, the points, you know, they they

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Speaker 2: Then they outgunned the Lions thirty seven to thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Then they outgunned the Carolina Panthers, which thirty seven to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. Looking back on that, now, yeah, hell did

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if there was a return for

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Speaker 3: even so, this defense is questionable. I mean, some of

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I just don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how good this defense,

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Speaker 2: no doubt it's back in week two, Okay, giving up

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Speaker 2: They held the Giants to three. But then you lose

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Speaker 2: you know, we know that, you know, Burrow, they gave up.

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Speaker 2: They lost that game. Bengals only had two hundred and

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Speaker 2: the start that Bengals defense is not good. There's some

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Speaker 3: There's definitely some inconsistency team. When they're hot, they're hot,

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Speaker 2: I guess smoked by Baltimore, you know, slip past Washington

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Speaker 2: Uh, and that was that was in Seattle. Uh, swept

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Speaker 3: I mean, Rams are good team. I think the Rams

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Speaker 2: Swept by San Francisco, you know, beat by Dallas, beat

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Speaker 3: That was a big win for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when the Eagles were have been struggling here. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by the skin of your teeth.

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Speaker 3: Seattle's opponents have run We've run one hundred and fourteen

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Speaker 2: Well, especially when teams are running the ball like they

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Speaker 3: I mean, Seattle's opponent almost runs eight plays a game

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Speaker 3: that would be making me crazy if I was speak Carol.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get to a break. When we can return,

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Speaker 2: we'll have We'll be joined by Bob Labarola as we

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Speaker 2: are every Thursday. We'll see what Lab says cooking here

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Speaker 3: Yeah he is.

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriola. How you doing, Bob?

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Speaker 4: Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: I mean better this week than the last couple.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, it certainly looked and felt

442
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Speaker 4: a lot different slash better against the Bengals that it had,

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Speaker 4: you know, the knee of the previous I don't know,

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Speaker 4: three games at least maybe from an offensive standpoint, it

445
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Speaker 4: looked and felt better than it has in any game

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Speaker 4: this year. And so you know, fingers crossed open for

447
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Speaker 4: the best, you know, saying it delivered last week. Now

448
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Speaker 4: maybe uh, you know, I don't know who the the

449
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Speaker 4: Happy New Year Elf is or whatever that, if there's

450
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Speaker 4: is such a thing. But hey, if you got any

451
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Speaker 4: lucky socks or anything, take him out of the drawer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little New Year's read solution to go score

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Speaker 2: thirty again, that would be good.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it would take I mean I'm in for that, yes, Bob.

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Speaker 2: But Matt and I were just talking about this Seattle

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Speaker 2: team and it's a bit of a conundrum. Their run

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Speaker 2: defense over the last five games one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: nine yards, one hundred and thirty six, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: seventy three, one hundred and seventy eight and one hundred

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Speaker 2: and sixty two rushing yards allowed over their last five games.

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Speaker 2: They gave up two hundred and ninety eight rushing yards

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Speaker 2: in Week nine against Baltimore. Now it's Baltimore, I get it,

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Speaker 2: But to ninety eight and Lamar's not running like Lamar.

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Speaker 3: Has no Yeah, he wouldn't be right, is that?

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Speaker 2: Is it too simple to say that the Steelers just

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Speaker 2: if they can come out and run the ball like that,

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Speaker 2: you know, for one hundred and fifty plus yards in

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Speaker 2: this game, they win the game.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like everything this year starts with the Steelers'

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Speaker 3: ability to either run the ball or not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with what match just said. Let

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Speaker 4: me just throw this in. And I don't know the

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Speaker 4: you know, the venues of those games that you just mentioned,

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Speaker 4: you know, referencing the rushing yardage stats, but if you

475
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Speaker 4: know the the Seattle home crowd is in full throat

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Speaker 4: on Sunday, which they usually are, that makes it more

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Speaker 4: difficult for the offensive line to get off. As you

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Speaker 4: know as a group. So you know, I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: it can't run the ball. I'm just saying that I

480
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Speaker 4: don't know that it would be as easy maybe or

481
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Speaker 4: you know, as as consistently successful as it was last week,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing the Bengals. You know, first of all,

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Speaker 4: they're not a great They're not a great defense in

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Speaker 4: every aspect. And as a division team, I mean, you

485
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Speaker 4: have a pretty good idea of what they can do,

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Speaker 4: how they try to do it. And I understand that

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Speaker 4: they have that same knowledge and familiarity with the Steelers team.

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Speaker 4: But I just thought that, I don't know, things just

489
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Speaker 4: seemed to be on a on a path last week

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Speaker 4: that to me just felt positive. It didn't take long

491
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Speaker 4: for that to happen in the game for that to

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Speaker 4: manifest itself. But I don't know, and I'm not a

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Speaker 4: big how it feels kind of guy, but it felt.

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't do a whole lot of that,

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Speaker 4: as they used to say in the sixties and seventies,

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Speaker 4: contemplating my navel, But uh, it just did. I mean,

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Speaker 4: who knows, maybe it was you know, Dale Scintillating Companies

498
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Speaker 4: sitting next to me in the press bots.

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Speaker 2: That had to be it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm experiencing it right now better than that.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know. You know, but the

502
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Speaker 4: thing with the NFL is that whole feel good thing

503
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Speaker 4: that that's week to week, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't think that the difference between playing in Seattle

505
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Speaker 4: and playing on the North Shore can be understated. You know,

506
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Speaker 4: the Steelers do not play well in Seattle. Historically. The

507
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Speaker 4: only place they played more poorly than in Seattle is

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Speaker 4: in Chicago in terms of the you know, one loss

509
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Speaker 4: record on the road against you know, the respective teams

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Speaker 4: in those two cities. So you know, I don't really

511
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Speaker 4: you know, I always have a bad feeling about Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Always going there, I mean going there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did a show with Wolf earlier this week

514
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Speaker 3: and it came up and he had like PTSD and

515
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Speaker 3: he was even part of the last win in eighty three.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like it just can tell it scarred people

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Speaker 3: go there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that the trips are always you know,

519
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Speaker 4: it's a long flight, and I get it that. You know,

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Speaker 4: you go to l A, you go to Vegas. It's

521
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Speaker 4: not that much different. It's I don't know it. I've

522
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Speaker 4: been on a lot of those trips. I don't have

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Speaker 4: anything good to say about any of them. I've ever

524
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Speaker 4: been on, never saw the Steelers win there, and there

525
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Speaker 4: was some ugliness. So you know, this, this to me

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Speaker 4: is is I think more than just an opposing team

527
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Speaker 4: that they have to conquer. I do believe they have

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Speaker 4: to conquer the venue, possibly the trip. It's it's more

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Speaker 4: than just it's more than just four quarters of football.

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Speaker 3: I think this time, Yeah, go ahead, that's want to

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Speaker 3: bring the quarterback situation. I mean we talked about you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: you know, the best off offensive showing Rudolph played really well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what was your analysis of what he did

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Speaker 3: against the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, he was exactly what you know,

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Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin kind of outlined that he was looking for

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Speaker 4: from him throughout the week. I mean, you know, he

538
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Speaker 4: didn't want him to play scared or in fear was

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Speaker 4: the way he phrased it, and you know, to be

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Speaker 4: aggressive throughout. And we saw that second second play, you know,

541
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Speaker 4: going to uh to pick Pickens excuse me, going to

542
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Speaker 4: Pickens uh. And you know I think that, you know,

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Speaker 4: I like that for a lot of different reasons. You know,

544
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Speaker 4: you need chunk plays. You need some things that give

545
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Speaker 4: you some easy scores. Uh, you know, all of that

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Speaker 4: good stuff. But I'm also the of the belief that,

547
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Speaker 4: you know, you've got to get that guy involved early.

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Speaker 4: And I'm talking about pickings. You know, if if he's

549
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Speaker 4: a little bit fragile or whatever word you want to

550
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Speaker 4: use in terms of you know, he needs to be

551
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Speaker 4: targeted early or needs that he needs to feel that

552
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Speaker 4: he's involved earlier. However you know you want to phrase it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that at this point you have

554
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Speaker 4: to kind of cater to that in terms of fighting it. Yes,

555
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Speaker 4: you would like him to be mentally tough and you know,

556
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Speaker 4: to deal with, you know, whatever he has to deal

557
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Speaker 4: with in order to keep his head in the game

558
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Speaker 4: and you know, continue to want to be a part

559
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Speaker 4: of things and you know, attack things as as aggressively

560
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Speaker 4: and as fervently as he would, you know, as he

561
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Speaker 4: did last week when he was a big part of it.

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Speaker 4: But he's a young guy. You need him. There's not

563
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Speaker 4: a whole lot of alternative, uh, and so hey, let's

564
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Speaker 4: you know, if if you've got to pat him on

565
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Speaker 4: the head a little bit and it works, pat him

566
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Speaker 4: on the head a little bit, you know, Uh, I don't,

567
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Speaker 4: I don't, I'm not. You hear a lot of fans,

568
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Speaker 4: oh you know, they they want to punish him, you

569
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 4: know he needs to learn, you know, discipline and all

570
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Well, yeah, okay, but sometimes, uh,

571
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Speaker 4: you know, you're, as my grandmother always used to say,

572
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Speaker 4: you're biting your nose off to spite your face. And

573
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Speaker 4: so let's not do that. And so I like the

574
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Speaker 4: fact that Mason Rudolph went to him early. Uh, and

575
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Speaker 4: then that just seemed to snowball and and in that

576
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Speaker 4: situation in the right way. It was snowballing in the

577
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Speaker 4: right way. Now, I do believe that Mason Rudolph one

578
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Speaker 4: of his I won't say unique skills, but one of

579
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Speaker 4: his individual skills is his ability to throw the deep ball.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And he was I thought, very very on target for

582
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Speaker 4: the most part. I thought he missed one to Deontay Johnson,

583
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Speaker 4: and I thought he missed one to Calvin Austin, which

584
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Speaker 4: you know, may have made it even more of a.

585
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Speaker 2: Might have been a little past apearance on that one too.

586
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Speaker 4: Well, you're not you're not criticizing me, never, never, But yeah,

587
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: but you know, and that that could have even uh

588
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: you know, led to more fireworks than what we already saw.

589
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Speaker 4: But you know, I thought Mason Rudolph did what he

590
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 4: can do. He did it well. He had a perfect

591
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: passer rating into the second quarter, uh, didn't turn it over.

592
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Speaker 4: You know again, it was exactly what I thought the

593
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Speaker 4: Steelers needed from their starting quarterback at that stage of

594
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Speaker 4: the season in that game, and that's why I'm glad

595
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Speaker 4: they're sticking with him, or it seems to be that

596
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 4: case right now. You know, there's no I haven't seen

597
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: any injury report today, practice report today. But you know,

598
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Speaker 4: I don't know that Kenny Pickett can make a move

599
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Speaker 4: from where he was to where he needs to be

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Speaker 4: in order to get a starting GNAWD for the game

601
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Speaker 4: in Seattle. So I'm just assuming it's going to be

602
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Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph.

603
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too, Bob. And I think you know

604
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Speaker 2: the people, the Kenny Pickett fans out there are, uh, well,

605
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Speaker 2: you know, what does this mean for the long term

606
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: prognosis for Kenny. The Steelers aren't thinking long term here

607
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Speaker 2: right now.

608
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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

609
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: They've got one goal and that is to win these

610
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Speaker 2: final two games and see where that gets you.

611
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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I'm I'm, I'm with you one hundred percent.

612
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Speaker 4: And here's another thing I wouldn't. I wouldn't necessarily have

613
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Speaker 4: a lot of patience if with Mason Rudolph if he's

614
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Speaker 4: not what he was last week either, because again, just

615
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Speaker 4: as this is no long term statement on Kenny Pickett,

616
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Speaker 4: I doesn't need to be a long term statement on

617
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Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph either. And so it's gonna be interesting to

618
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: me too, how how the quarterback depth chart is lined

619
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Speaker 4: up for the game. You know, usually the number three

620
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: quarterback is inactive but in uniform, right, And so you

621
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Speaker 4: know it'll be interesting to me to see that too.

622
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Speaker 4: Who's the third quarterback? Uh? And again if it's can

623
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Speaker 4: He Pickett or Mitch Dubisky. Again, I'm not making that

624
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Speaker 4: choice based on any long term statements that I'm looking

625
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 4: to make or next year, or you know, anything beyond

626
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: what and who I think gives us the best chance

627
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Speaker 4: to win this game on Sunday in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: So you mentioned Pickings earlier and a lot of good

629
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Speaker 3: stuff to say about him, and I agree with all

630
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Speaker 3: of it, but I just wanted to throw in He's

631
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: not the first extremely talented wide receiver in history that

632
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Speaker 3: might be a little volatile, or might need coddled, or

633
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: might need a little extra coaching, or might want the

634
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 3: football early in a game. Like people act like this

635
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: is unique. I mean this just happened my whole life, right,

636
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: that's that position.

637
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, you know. And and there's there's guys who

638
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Speaker 4: are veterans.

639
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Bradshaw talked about that was right, you know, both wanting

640
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: the football and and you know, lobbying to get him

641
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: to throw them the ball.

642
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: Well, and let me let me tell you this too,

643
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: you know the whole You know, Pickens wasn't all excited

644
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: for when Deontay Johnson scored that touchdown a few weeks ago.

645
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: John Stalworth, I know this for a fact, was honked

646
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: off that swan goat in the Hall of Fame before him.

647
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: Absolutely sure, absolutely.

648
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Speaker 3: Do mean he doesn't like the guy.

649
00:32:51,560 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 6: It's yes, yes, And so you know, again, as you mentioned,

650
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 6: this is not new, it is not unique.

651
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: And that's why that's what I'm saying about, you know Pickens,

652
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: is that yes, there are some things about his conduct

653
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Speaker 4: for lack of a better word, and you know that

654
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Speaker 4: needs to be cleaned up. Uh And and again I'm

655
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Speaker 4: not making any long range statements about him either you

656
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: know in Seattle, you know, what do we need to

657
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: get from him? Uh to win this game?

658
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

659
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 4: And you know, one of the things I think is

660
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: going to be interesting is the relative health of the

661
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 4: respective secondaries. You know, what's what's Jamal Adams and uh

662
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: Witherspoon's conditioned going to be in terms of their physical

663
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: uh fitness for the game and and how how much

664
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: are they going to be able to play in at

665
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 4: what effectiveness versus you know, some of the Steelers injury,

666
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: These question marks health question marks in the secondary in

667
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: terms of who they're going to have available and how

668
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: well they're going to be able to play. You know,

669
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: And because DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett are not top liver,

670
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm here to tell you that. I'm sure you guys

671
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 4: know that Bob.

672
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: In terms of their defense, Artie Burns and Devin Bush

673
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: are probably gonna end up starting this game for them. Yeah.

674
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: Is it as simple as and target those two guys and.

675
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: You know a little bit about them as players?

676
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, I mean I just I did a little

677
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: bit a little bit of looking up, you know, Devin

678
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: Bush just to see you know, I mean, he's only

679
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: played one hundred and fifty six defensive snaps.

680
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Speaker 2: But most of them have come in the last couple

681
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Speaker 2: of weeks.

682
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Speaker 4: Right, he's got twelve tackles, no splash at all. Yeah,

683
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: been targeted eleven times, eight completions. You know, he's twenty

684
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 4: first on the team in tackles, you know, So, I mean,

685
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't see why you wouldn't

686
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: at least, you know, think about taking advantage of both

687
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: of those guys because you know them. However, I'm I

688
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: don't know that I'm framing a game point and strictly

689
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 4: around going after those two guys. I still think you've

690
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: got to do what you do or what you think

691
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: you can do there well against that team at that venue,

692
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: but certainly knowing where you know it's going to isolate,

693
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: you know, a tight end or running back on Devin

694
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Speaker 4: Bush and coverage.

695
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: Why not?

696
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, or Pat Fryer moved or you know whoever

697
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: it might be. I don't know. You know how you

698
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 4: know because Bush will be there on the field with

699
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: Bobby Wagner. How Bush's you know, how he fits into

700
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: the defense with a player like that. You know, It's

701
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: something that I don't know, but yeah, I would have

702
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: no problem with going after guys that used to play

703
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: for you that you know what they can and can't do.

704
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that.

705
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: I just did a quick search here and you're you're

706
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: both were right. I mean they neither one of them

707
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: has played a lot of snaps this year. It's like

708
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: between one twenty five and two fifty. But Burns was

709
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: out there for forty nine last week and Bush was

710
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: out there for forty. So if there's no Witherspoon, if

711
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: there's no Brooks, you know, those guys get the call.

712
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: Jamoal Adams.

713
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, you know.

714
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Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, No, it's just gonna say. I think

715
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: you just you know, again, maybe you don't go after

716
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 2: them on every play, but I think on the weighty downs,

717
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 2: knowing their tendencies, you you kind of try to take

718
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: advantage of that.

719
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, I mean, I don't know how Pekal's

720
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: going to deploy them. Maybe it's not in a situation

721
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: where you're able to do that, but you know, again,

722
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

723
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: I know already already Burns has been playing the slot

724
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: for them, and so if I can, if I can

725
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: get some guy, if I if I have to move

726
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: George Pickens into the slot on third down to go

727
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: beat Arty Burns, have at it.

728
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're Deontay Johnson.

729
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah right.

730
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 4: And if and if is reckless enough to uh, you know,

731
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: allow that matchup to happen on a regular basis, well,

732
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 4: shame on him and then take advantage of it.

733
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Bob. Uh do you think any of this

734
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: other stuff that the Steelers need to happen, uh might

735
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 2: happen this weekend or next weekend or I mean, in

736
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: other words, if they if they are able to somehow

737
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: win this game, are we still talking about play offs

738
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 2: next week? Are we still needing a lot of help?

739
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: Well? One of the things that I think is very

740
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: realistic this weekend is the Ravens playing at home beating

741
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 4: the Dolphins. And I think that that doesn't clinch anything

742
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: for the Steelers, certainly, but it would take a lot

743
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: of the steam and teeth out of the Ravens for

744
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: that regular season finale, because if they beat the Dolphins,

745
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 4: they have clinched the number one seed in the AFC.

746
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 4: And I don't think John Harbaugh is as reckless or

747
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: area as Brian Billick was in two thousand and three,

748
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: where he pretty much sacrificed his team in that regular

749
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 4: season finale to get Jamal Lewis a rushing record and

750
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: or just beat the snot out of the Steelers. They

751
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 4: ended up winning an overtime, and he beat his team

752
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: up to the point where they lost the next week

753
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 4: in Tennessee against Tennessee.

754
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Speaker 3: I can't imagine them playing Lamar or any of those

755
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: guys in the.

756
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: Game, you know, but right a lot of the you know,

757
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: Ronnie Stanley and their two inside linebackers and Kyle Hamilton,

758
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: and I mean that's just not you're looking at a team.

759
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Speaker 4: I think if the Ravens beat the Dolphins the week

760
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 4: after they beat the forty nine Ers, I mean, if

761
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 4: you're working in that organization, you got to be thinking,

762
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: you know, we might be able to have a parade.

763
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. This is not just resting, you know,

764
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: for your first playoff game. I think you're resting for

765
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 4: a run in the playoffs. So I think that that's

766
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 4: the first the first step. And you know, I've learned

767
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: enough about the league this year that it doesn't happen

768
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: the way it's supposed to or predicted to, or it

769
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: doesn't go by the favorites winning or the home team's winning,

770
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: or you know how any of that all usually plays out. Uh.

771
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 4: You know, the league has been changing every four weeks.

772
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: I think it's it's been a pretty consistent pattern in

773
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 4: that way. You know, the Jacksonville Jaguars have gone from

774
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: you know, wh a f C.

775
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 5: Uh right to uh they even going to beat out Tennessee,

776
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 5: you know, to win the a f C South or

777
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Speaker 5: whoever might be.

778
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 4: You know, so you know, here we are again back

779
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 4: with this. The Steelers looked awful for a four game

780
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 4: period there. Maybe that this is now their period where

781
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: they do a little rebound and and bounce back somewhat.

782
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: So you know, we'll just see what happens. I don't

783
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: I don't look too far ahead with this either in

784
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: terms of what they need to happen and can it happen,

785
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 4: will it happen? How do you want to predict it?

786
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 4: Let's just see how this week ends this week and

787
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 4: uh took plays out, and then see what you need

788
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: the last weekend of the season.

789
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, Bob, but I think that's what we'll put. We're

790
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: gonna let you go here. We gotta get to a break.

791
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. Our guest

792
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: has been Bob Labarriola, editor of Steelers Digestive Steelers dot Com.

793
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to see again, Bob.

794
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I know what you want.

795
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: See on a Flawana plane to Seattle or in Seattle

796
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: or in Seattle. But well, at the very least, we

797
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: will talk to you next Thursday, and we'll see where

798
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: we're talking here next year. Ye, next year, we'll be

799
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: talking about a game against the Ravens, and well, whether

800
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: it means something, whether it doesn't, and a little bit

801
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: more about this quarterback situation. We're gonna get to a break.

802
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more on the Drive right after this.

803
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,520
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804
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,440
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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

813
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and Matt,

814
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: is it too simple? Is as simple as this for

815
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers this season? This season, when their quarterback starts

816
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: and finishes a game, they're eight and three.

817
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: It's amazing. I mean, how many times did anyone ever

818
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: get pulled?

819
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: Because in Indianapolis.

820
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: Okay, it's only happened once I knew there's one. I

821
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: couldn't think there any others. There's been others with injury

822
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: of course, or you know, not planned. I wonder around

823
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: the league when you lose a quarterback with injury, what

824
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: the win percentage is no matter who you play. Yeah,

825
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: I bet it's unbelievably.

826
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: Low, because I mean, we talked to Mike Sullivan spoke

827
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: today to the media, and you know, I asked him, like,

828
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, he's been calling the plays now for the

829
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Steelers for the last five games. A Sunday's game would

830
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: be his sixth. Okay, he'll have had three different starting

831
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks with.

832
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Speaker 3: Three different courts in six games and he's the quarterback coach,

833
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 3: and he's the quarterbacks coach.

834
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Speaker 2: He said, you know this, this is what you prepare for.

835
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Speaker 2: He says, you know, one thing is he went to

836
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: the US Military Academy and as an army graduate. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: he said, you know, the one thing that that teaches you,

838
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: your your army training teaches you is to expect the unexpected.

839
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: Nobody expects to use three quarterbacks and span a six

840
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 2: three games or five games.

841
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: Really, of course, it's it's a great military reference though, too,

842
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: Like you can train and train and this is how

843
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 3: we do things by the book, and then it doesn't

844
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: look like that.

845
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: The mission does not always go as plans.

846
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so how do I adapt now and get thrown

847
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: a major curveball? So I would think his back ground

848
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: is helpful in that way, but I didn't thought of

849
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: it in that light, you know. I mean, he's a

850
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: rookie play caller in a way himself, or a new one.

851
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: Rookie is not the right word. But here's three different

852
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 3: quarterbacks you had to deal with, right.

853
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: And you and you Each one of them has a

854
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: different skill set, of course, which you'll know better than anyone.

855
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still that's quite the challenge.

856
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's you know, there has to be

857
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: something to it.

858
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean so many teams have gone through

859
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: so many quarterbacks. I do wonder what the win percentage

860
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 3: is when you lose one mid game. Yeah, it has

861
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 3: to be so low, so low.

862
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's just I don't around the league

863
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: this year, even the last two years, really the quarterback

864
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: changes that have happened. I mean, you want to talk

865
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: about the volatility of the of the league. I think

866
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: that's part of it.

867
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: I think it's so much to do with it. I mean,

868
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 3: what'd you say the record was when you the same

869
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: guy started and finished eight and three eight and three.

870
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's not that much to ask or hopeful

871
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: hope for it.

872
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: Start and finish the game, Start and finish the game.

873
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Speaker 3: I mean it's a long season. Everyone in the league

874
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: has dealt with this more or less. I mean, some

875
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: teams have been fortunate enough to only have one. I

876
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: bet their winning percentage is way higher than league average.

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Speaker 3: You know, even if it's not a great quarterback, if

878
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: it's Joe Blow, but he's played, but you just you.

879
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Speaker 2: Don't have to pull, you don't have to change the

880
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: offensive game plan. You don't have to change your protections,

881
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: You don't have to do anything. You just play the game.

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Speaker 3: Little stupid things like the cadence and the way he

883
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: communicates and spits the play out of his mouth and

884
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and just the familiarity or his ball

885
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: fakes on play action or the way he hands them

886
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: all off, or does he like to be a shot?

887
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Speaker 3: You know, like little things that nobody thinks about. The

888
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: center quarterback exchange. You know, like when we were a

889
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: pit Walt Harris, for the first three minutes of practice,

890
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: the center in the in the quarterback went out and

891
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: did center quarterback exchange. It was on our script. You know,

892
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: like I thought to myself that they really need to

893
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: practice that first and foremost. Yeah, you know, like you

894
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: don't want to screw it up if you stow it up.

895
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Speaker 2: Everybody saying don't they practice that?

896
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean they're out there just snapping for

897
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: a couple minutes before the before practice really gets going.

898
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: You know, like all right, you know, I mean if

899
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Speaker 3: you don't think about the little things, but you don't

900
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: think about the little things, if you have the same

901
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: quarterback all year long and you start to well, I

902
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 3: got a better feel for my receiver he likes the

903
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: ball on his outside shoulder on this route, or you know,

904
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: all those type of things that are all new that

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Speaker 3: you can't simulate in practice.

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Speaker 2: I think you're some of the inhelmet perspective too. From

907
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback. You talk about it at other positions like

908
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: pass rushers setting up, you know, offensive lineman or this

909
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: receiver setting up, or a defensive back or vice versa,

910
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: or the defensive backs baiting a quarterback into a throw.

911
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: Quarterback can learn a lot too.

912
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Speaker 3: I can move the safety with my eyes, pump fake.

913
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times did Ben manipulate guys? And

914
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: it comes with experience and playing and playing with your

915
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: teammates time and time again.

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Speaker 2: Or you know what, I threw that pass the last

917
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Speaker 2: time that guy jumped it. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about great players here, but Mahomes

919
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: and Tyreek Ben and ab scramble drills. You know, like

920
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: nothing went to plan three seconds, four seconds into the play,

921
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: nobody's running a route anymore. But I know this guy

922
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 3: wants to come across the middle, or he's just gonna

923
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 3: take it deep or whatever, you know, and my quarterback

924
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 3: can't make the throw or I mean you just don't

925
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: know any of those things. Yeah, IM with receivers and

926
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Speaker 3: all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Interesting little yeah way looking at it development for the

928
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Speaker 2: Steelers there this season, and well, we'll see if Mason

929
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Speaker 2: Rudolph finishes, starts and finishes this game against Seattle.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna get into that much dask for. But we'll see, we're.

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Speaker 2: Gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 2: am Dale. Allie, you're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number two

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Speaker 2: right after this