WEBVTT - Axe Bath 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:06.040 Yeah, I ain't fall. When the summer I can get 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:10.040 fly all my life, all my life, Frank fall when 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:15.040 the summer. I been getting twenty podcast. I'm the host 0:00:15.000 --> 0:00:17.119 of My name is DJ Wells. To my far left, 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.520 resident chef Bishop Grant, leave, my boy be here. How 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.560 you what? What's good? So you got the good shoes 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.840 on to night man? When the guests come, you put 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:26.599 the heat on? Is it? You're fuck with us with 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.720 the guests in here? Yeah? Flip flop for y'all. What 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.319 the dick to my meteor? Right? My boy, young tea 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.520 not up? How you what sho bro by the doors again? Yeah? 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:43.639 I had these was about the garage door. Oh y'all 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.080 don't even know what the garage door here? Turn that 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.640 into like a thing. Yeah about it? About it though? 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:51.720 Last when I leave to my media left. You know 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:53.520 what I'm saying, We got a guest. Love having guests, 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.200 especially in the end of kids Midwest kids in the building. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.760 You know what I'm saying, Hooper philanthropists found. We're gonna 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.279 talk about all these things with my dad. G R three. 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.000 How are you feeling, man? Appreciate you pull it up 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.800 to five twenty, My boy, appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all having me. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:10.000 I've seen what y'all doing. I have to check in. Yeah, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:11.000 you know what I'm saying. I know y'all got a 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.000 little bit of a relationship going on. But before we 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.160 get into the episode. Look you see this table. It's 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.800 real bear cameraman going through some stuff. That's why the sponsorship. See, 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.120 if you put a sponsorship, we can get this laptop 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.840 popping real nice, get this table going and our cameraman 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.720 will have his balance back. Shout out to my man 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.200 behind the lands doing this thing. But before we get 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.000 into today's episode, I gotta talk to you. Know what 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.840 I'm saying. You can't to five twenty door mars. This 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.520 marsh Matten is going on. You know what I'm saying. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.039 You know you look you were a little bit farther 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.280 to tournament and t get over here. But I gotta 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.120 ask you, know what I'm saying, a biased question. Do 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.560 you believe that was a foul? That one? No file, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:48.480 everybody knows the block we ain't even got to expect. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.840 But you know what I'm saying, Michigan fans, No, y'all 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.800 still feel that too bad? I don't care National Championship. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.520 We're gonna get into that. But Dad, it was a 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.000 crazy play hand straight up he went to go get 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.960 the black on page see for called the foul free 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.200 throws changed the game? How shitty or like salt two 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.080 with y'all at that moment because everybody looked at said 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.000 that ain't no fucking foul. We in the moment, I 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:11.120 just I looked at Trade's face and he was pissed, 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.000 like he was shaking his head. I forgot what he 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.440 said to the ref, but I was thinking next play 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.840 because Trade just had to hit that shot against Kansas before, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.240 I think or two games before, so I'm like, oh, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:22.800 we could still get back in it, you know. So 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.359 my mind was just like, all right, we could still 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.560 win win this game. You know. Yeah. I have to 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.600 say I'm sorry to bring it up, but as a 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:30.960 little bit fast it's one of the few things I 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.079 got to hold on to, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:33.920 They try to take that championship away from us and 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.600 act like we didn't all watch that fucking game on 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.679 Monday night, quit playing with us. So what I hope 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.080 we did cheat. I hope everything that they said was true. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.320 Shout out to nail money. We've been on that type 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.160 of time, man. But you know, typically asked, especiallyhen we 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.960 get Hoops on the show of that origin. Shit, we 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:52.520 know your origin man, Like how was it to grow up? 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.720 You know what I'm saying as the son of Big 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.160 Dog the legend, especially in the two one nine, Like, 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.160 how was that like influential on your upbringing? Obviously with 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.720 that being your pops and growing up kind of in 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.200 the NBA. Yeah, you know, it's it's a blessing, for real. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.560 That's how I met T for real. He knew my 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.720 pops and stuff when we was on the paces. But 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.440 it's a blessing, Like I grew up. I've seen cars, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.240 I've seen whooping. I remember one time he was with 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.560 the Bucks and I'm in practice. I was a little 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.680 little kid. So I'm running on the floor and George 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.359 Carl he cuts me out, like, man, get you get 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.000 your son off the court. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.560 Get him off the court. After practice, were in the car, 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.720 My my pops let me drive. So I'm in the 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.240 standing wheel like this on his lap and uh, I 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.680 look over and it's somebody. It was I think Tim 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.480 Thomas just was flying past, and then my pops wrote 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.240 his window down. And I've seen Sam Sam Casale and 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.720 imagine seeing Sam Casale as a little kid. You see 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:48.640 his little thing, you see his place as a little kid. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:54.240 I'm scared of And my pops never let that down. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.080 And that's my guy, that's uncle Sam. Man. But my 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.440 pops never let that down. Man, Like you scared. My 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:10.520 son had to saw basketball early. I forget that day. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.320 That's real, you know, it was suthing like that, you know, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.600 I was. I was in NBA practices, you know. I 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.760 got to see my pots pull up and in different 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.640 cars and stuff. So my my my mind was always 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.520 focused on what I wanted, you know, and Pops and 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.920 never influenced me to you know, because I played football, 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.960 I played different sports. He never was like you gotta 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.239 play basketball, you know, until I got to high school. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.800 It was clear like spot like what you're doing. But 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.479 but yeah, nah man, I can't I can't complain. You know. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.960 Obviously he was traveling. He wanted to ring with the Spurs. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.400 I got to see a lot and and really follow 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.599 his footsteps in terms of the open one. I was 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.000 gonna ask you about the other guns, like you know 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.680 what I'm saying a lot of people who don't even 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.719 have no credentials and niggas whould just be on Instagram 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.280 place they'd be pressure they first moorn kids to fucking 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.479 get on the basketball court. Did you had that type 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:56.960 of pressure? It was just like he lets you fuck 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:58.640 with it. But then it came time, just like, nah, 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:00.840 so you don't see what I said, You like, we're 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.000 about to get the work type shite. No, I'm laughing 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.280 because I remember I was going to high school and 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.279 I was playing football. I still up into eighth grade, 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:08.960 and my post was like, I give you a cell 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.800 phone if you stopped playing football. But it was clear no, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:14.800 and it was just a joke, but it was clear 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.880 I was I was better at basketball and that was 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.720 my path, and Pops was right, you know obviously. But nah, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.960 I remember playing football. I used to be receivering. I 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.360 was nice, you know, but I was like, man, basketball 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:32.719 probably was crazy. I was probably like eighth grade six 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.599 two sixty three. Yeah, you was big in a big 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.280 six eighth grade there with one hand, you know, and 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.839 I was there, you know, but I was like, man, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.800 this ain't my sport though, Because it got time for 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:49.120 practice and it's like them them drills with all right, 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.039 it's time to go head on against a linebacker. Somebody, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:56.880 you gotta square up. I'm like, nah, it's football. Never 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.520 for me. I was a buck thirty in high school. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:05.080 Six dog, listen, I grew up playing baseball, and I'll 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.039 take a fastball to the real cage for I catch 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:09.800 your motherfucking up the middle of linebacker to the nah, 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.080 dog Like, I don't see how people play football and 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.840 wake up and play that ship the next day. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.240 that should have to be bill for brother. My brother played. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.479 We we opposite my brother six six one, like three 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.680 hundred pounds linebacker. Hefl right now, Oh damn, Yeah, you're 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.960 playing for Saint Louis, the same team with a J. Mccarne. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.960 So I've been checking that out. But yeah, we complete opposite. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.520 Growing up, he was wrestling football. It got to a 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.200 point I'm like, nah, we ain't fighting no more, my brother. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:44.800 Yeah that's great. That look were cool on the hand. Damn. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.600 So obviously you know what I'm saying. He put the 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.920 ball her hands. You get to play, You know what 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.320 I say? Before we get to your college and high school, 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.080 does how was it you? Because you had. You had 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.760 some young hitters and your team, but you came retire 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:59.400 period with high school basketball was really getting its uh shot, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.160 especially on social media, and y'all that's why team was crazy. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.520 That's y'all was cheating, y'all. We just had a lot 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.520 of talent over and Gary and Brandon Dawson was on 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.440 our team. We was naming a couple of Mitch McGarry 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.560 NBA players by the way, all NBA players. But before that, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.680 a lot of people don't know I was born premature. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.000 So I was born three pounds four houses and I 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.480 spent two months in an incubator as a kid. Save 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.840 me a produe basketball, like winning a little basketball and 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.000 put it in the incubator. So for two months that's 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:31.920 where I had the basketball. And then so I started 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.520 telling people that's when I started first started hooping. Damn, 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.480 you know what I'm saying. So it's just using that 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:42.560 moucker for two bucks two months. You had no choice 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.560 but do that basketball. And now that's why he came 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:51.560 to He was like, all right, your name, but trying 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.880 to return that investment side. Did y'all win? Did y'all 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.920 win any big tournaments? But we used to that was 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.120 before because I think we was under armor and oh 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.480 they was Nike when they was y'all talking about the Yeah, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:08.920 then we switched over with the under arm and I 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.520 remember we would used to go to Florida all of 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.720 them tournaments. We was running through all of them tournaments. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.840 You know what I'm saying. But we wasn't eype nigga, 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:21.080 what shoes was you hooping? The man? When Jennis first 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:26.840 came the pen leather toes stay the rest to genus man. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:34.079 That's oh I had rolled my ankle so bad in him. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:39.880 They had no likes. God me, I would I would 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:45.320 have rocked it. The curries are dasty. It makes me 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.079 step is one of the coldes niggas to touch of basketball. 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.760 And he got his shoes that we will never touch 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.880 again or touch the first time. That's why I asked 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:53.920 you what shoes usually were it bro, because that's a 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.000 crazy circuit to be Oh yeah, no, under armor was 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.840 popping though. That circuit was curtiy. Yeah, I'm talking about 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:02.480 this with the gears. Oh yeah, niggas would have rather 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.000 hand hooped in some knikes then you know what, Yeah, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.599 because you can wear nikes off the court. Ain't no 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.720 under armstures, you was gonna wear off that court unners, 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:21.280 no sock? What was one of your toughest matchups and 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:26.800 that you can remember you us Muhammed was twenty two. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.319 Oh me every time? Yeah, every time we used to 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.440 running him in championship game was up so but yeah, 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.040 that's that's who I remember. That's one of the mans 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:38.839 you forget about. Like it wasn't too far up. But 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.120 he was a problem in high school. But then we 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:46.200 remember he was big and the motherfucker Minnesota in Minnesota. 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.079 Yeah year, Yeah, my rookie gear. He had that joint 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:57.520 B passport. Crazy what was he like? Just text? No, 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.720 he was. He was two years old. He was like older. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.360 He wanted the og hole backs and who yeah he 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.559 was a double hole but he reclassified. I ain't got hill, 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:14.000 but by my god, I see I got him. I'm 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.679 best what he cool as hell? Oh damn? You know 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.920 what's crazy? I want to a tournament to Washington play 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.400 in the North Central and he was dunking on everybody 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.199 and I'm like, yeah, I'm like, bro, was I hurt? 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.800 The nigga was huge? Bro man child bro. And then 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.000 when they came out, I was like all right, I 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.920 get it. He wasn't man, you know what I mean? 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:37.920 You know what and I was shipped this to the 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.520 two and nine. You know what I'm saying. That EC 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:42.839 teen where they had Angel Garcia. Y'all not telling me 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:44.720 are Garcia was a high school player? Bro. I still 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.360 don't believe it. Bro. Where the documents? He was cold? Bro, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:48.839 he was a grown man here, just got off a 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.680 ship at the steel mill. Bro put on that rear 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:54.199 jersey and gave niggas work. Damn. Angel was nice. He 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.040 was cold. But yeah, Man, high school, you know what 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.160 I'm saying. You said, Pop started telling you asked time 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.400 to really get it in, like what was your like 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.880 what was that switchlight for you when it became Basketball's 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.600 kind of like fun. He's like, nah, we we I'm 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.079 gonna show you, you know, seeing how I would, and 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.360 I'm about to show you how to get it there, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.440 Like was you going through them type of drills with practice? 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:11.920 So he was just letting you work out with your coach. 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.480 Nah man. He I would go visit my pops in 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.400 the summer, me and my brother for two weeks, and 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.959 that's when I remember about him. He was strict on 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.480 two things. You gotta do your cardio once a day 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.760 for twenty minutes, and then you gotta keep that pace 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.600 up to a certain level. And then you gotta eat right. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.440 It was grilled chicken, broccoli, samon, something you gotta eat 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.800 right for lunch. So that as a kid, you know, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.400 so that and still still to me like all right, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:37.959 this is what I need to be doing to get 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.679 to the league. Yeah, you keep your body right. But 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.760 he said he learned that from Ray. Like Ray Allen 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.040 was was big on all of that back with the 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.880 bucks and everything. So but he didn't learn that type 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.679 of stuff till he got a certain age, you know, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.640 so he spread that knowledge to me. I was I 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.760 was appreciative of. But he came to watch me work 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.679 out one time in high school and I used to 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.679 get up at five thirty in the morning. And a 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.559 lot of people kind of heard this story. But this 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.839 this like would I'll tell all the young kids this, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:06.240 This what got me on and this got me my scholarships. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.400 But I used to wake up at five thirty my college. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.840 My high school coach was honking his horn in my driveway. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.160 My mind, you know, you met, My mind was like 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.319 get your better, get up at five thirty, so I 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.880 hopped his car. We had the gym by five forty five. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.440 I get a thousand shots up before school every day. Damn. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.400 By sophomore year came in high school, I had my license. 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.079 I beat my high school coach up to the gym. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.800 I beat him to the gym every single day. And man, 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.200 I used to turn on the lights. That's my favorite sound. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.679 And thousand shots every day. In the sophomore year, I 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.920 had scholarship from Michigan, Colorado. You know all the schools 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.160 I had scholarships from. But I test what I tell 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.199 the kids. Man, A thousand shots a day, one hour 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.439 in the morning per day. That's all it took. You 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.240 was on the gun work. I was on the gun 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.800 about to say a minute, Pops came up there rebounded 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.559 for me. Okay, I know if you had one of 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.760 your niggas rebounding for about to say, shout out to 0:12:54.840 --> 0:13:04.040 the rebounding Yeah, I was a rebounds all you gotta 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.800 working up with Big Wallace. That was. That was because 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:10.920 I used to shoot with with two hands on eighth grade. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.280 You know how as a kid, we just throw the 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.120 ball up there. So eighth grade, my high school coach 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.160 was like, Yo, if you want to play, you're gonna 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:18.920 have to change your shot. Like you don't shoot with 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.280 two hands, it's the guy hand. This is how you shoot. 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.280 And I'm like, whoa, so I got it. I just 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.719 looked him off, like, man, he don't know what you're 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.240 talking about. It eight grade, you know. I'm like, I'm 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.199 kind of nice, but I wanted all that, like I'm 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.439 kind of nice, and man, I got in the gym 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.880 thousand shots per day and it started working, like I 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.960 was able to control where the ball was going because 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:37.480 you shoot with two hands, it's spinning his twist and 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.920 nasty man get control. I would started hitting them shots. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.800 I'm like, whoa, this really worked. Thousand shots per day. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.439 That's how I tell the kids. Man. Yeah, that's some 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:50.280 different type of different because I would have never been like, well, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:51.920 what time would you get have to work out? Nigga? 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.679 I didn't go work no, nigga, what I want to 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.520 know shit like that? What time was you done? I 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:01.679 was done? You can just move back to so we 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:03.280 can hear you better. Yep this way, ye sir, yep, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.880 he said what he was going to high school? Yeah, 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.240 I'm saying five thirty. So what time did you get 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.240 the thousand shot up? Seven? And then it was like 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.360 six fifty five seven. I remember I had it was 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.480 a deodorant. It was popular. I used to spray that 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.400 shit on my head. Get the scrub real quick. I 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:31.160 had five minutes school start at seven fifteen. I had 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.080 to do what I had to do. Quick bird back, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.600 quick bird back, run the ax on the hands. It's crazy. 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.960 It was spraying that motherfuck bro. I used to do that. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:47.400 Pike Man, y'all niggas was sick all. You gotta sit 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.120 all day. You ain't took no shower in class. I'm 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:59.600 like I knew Hoop was for me the every day. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:06.760 That was a young team. That was your boy. I 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:14.360 think nil in high school. Oh god, commercial with the 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:19.120 horse and you didn't had a soul locked. My nigga 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.680 lit a fucking superstar. They could get that on camera 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.760 him doing that every day. Imagine that nigga taking an 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.880 accent hinted with the lebron and bro. It would have 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:39.680 went viral. Shit. That's crazy. Dedication different though not for 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.400 real respect because like you said, you made your own 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.120 jump shot, like you had to go through and make 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.920 your own jump shot to get to the next level, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.760 and like you said, that hard work in that dedication 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.760 got you your offers. We're gonna talk about some schools. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.040 You know what I'm saying. It's crazy how we got 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.000 two Indiana All Stars and what I'm saying two pros 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.000 in here that did not go to Indiana school was 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.080 there in the end, you know what I'm saying, in particular, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.240 that should have maybe recruited you, but that didn't recruit you. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.880 I got licking the camera when I said this, Dude, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.320 Purdue already know already I would have went to Purdue 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.480 for real. I never said came out and said this, 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.960 but I probably would have went to Purdue. My pops 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.640 was a legend. There was number thirteen cent a banner. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.080 I probably would have asked to wear number thirteen or 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.119 thirty one or something. It would have made a whole storyline. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.840 But guy had better plans, you know about getting recruited me. Uh, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.920 Tim Hardaway Junior. Shout out to Tim. He gave me 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:34.560 my my official visit. They was recruiting me. We went 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.080 out to parties, did all of that. Man. Yeah, man, 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:43.840 I had a great time Part eight seven. You know, However, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.800 we was I'm like, whoa, this is what college is like, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.280 you know what I'm saying. And I go to Michigan. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.800 They on the roof, they playing beer, puk off the roof, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.360 jumping off the ruf, everything all weekend. I'm like, whoa, 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.080 they party like this, but basketball football this is how 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.000 they get it in. Yeah. Here going to the schools 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.119 that got the dude, like the footballs and the basketball 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.720 lit hit different, especially like in the Midwest cold the 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.560 people white people don't care about the code. They gonna 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.159 turn up regardless. So you wasn't in Arbor and it 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.720 was a fucking party because that's like the Bloomington of Michigan, 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.560 but way better. Yeah, yeah, for real, Yeah, Michigan it was. 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.359 It was a good time the two years that I 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.720 was there. If it wasn't Michigan, what school was you 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:30.600 close to thinking about? Probably I don't know if for 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.160 some reason, Colorado always stick in my mind. I kind 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.640 of went to go further from from the crib. Okay, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.520 I didn't have Kentucky or North Carolina, but I had 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.040 almost every other school. Really what I'm saying, Yeah, I 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.840 think I finished high school seventeen in the country or 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.760 something like that. But I you didn't offer me. Purdue 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.399 didn't offer me. It was a lot of schools that 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:50.760 passed up on me. That's crazy. Yeah, that on't even 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.560 makes sense. Yeah, don't offered me either. I thought I 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.200 was going so I thought I had off. Yeah, I 0:17:56.240 --> 0:18:02.280 thought I committed and you don't have offer. I an't 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.920 know that I committed Perdue, but they told me you 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:11.440 got a scholarship. Bro, I want to tell you. I 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:16.480 was like, it's always up produce. He won't smoke. I 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.200 didn't think it's what p hey listen to. They offered 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:21.600 my little brother. I was like, why was I waste 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:30.520 your time? Yea, I committed, Bro. It was like I 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:34.400 was gonna call you back, but they called my dad 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:41.160 like I don't got a scholarship all right, So wait 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:44.320 old and this is like, this is the summer of 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.480 your junior year or your senior year already, this is 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.959 my junior early old on you called and say, hey, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.840 I'm coming. I had just got all them scholarship offers, 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.359 so I had. I thought I had him in the 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:02.000 bag away from I just turned down Kansas all them. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.359 I'm like, I'm gonna to produce. You get on my 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:13.760 fucking Irish but literally stick got a scholarship. Oh did 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.040 you have your head ready? That's why I went to 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:24.760 the other Black and gold can go. I'm gonna wear 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:29.040 these dnps won't way or another day. That's crazy, I mean, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:31.520 that's I just think that's crazy that we look, especially 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:33.040 now in the tournament, like we got so many kids 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.000 from the city that be out here getting the shipped 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.560 off and they're not in any of the home schools 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.480 that should probably work on that ship. NAS should have 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.239 been a shout to Nigel Pack. There's no reason these 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.560 good ass player should not be escaping the state. In 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.920 a dream scenario, IU would be a Nike school and 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.600 have a culture that just recruited in like Central Indiana 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.520 and the region, and they could probably win a national 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.119 championship every four or five years if you just recruited 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:59.560 in the city. But fuck them, but getting done with 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.280 them working, it's over with all right. If I could 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.960 come out of high school again, I probably don Michigan 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:09.080 for real. Juwan heard Jordan's They just said it was 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.000 fun to say you, Hell yeah, I'm god have been 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.560 a perfect mesch for YouTube. Hell yeah, And you went 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.439 to a crazy situation because Michigan. It was already solid. 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.280 And then you know what I'm saying, who came into 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.720 Michigan with y'all because y'all had a whip. They was 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:24.000 producing talent. But Trey Burke and Tim was already there. Me. 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.480 They started calling us to the new Fab five. They 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.560 started called us the fresh five. It was five freshman 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.800 that came in. Me Cares, Subvert, Nick Styleskis, Spike, All Break, 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.800 and Miss McGarry. So we came in and it was 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.080 the I remember the first uh like scrimmage we had 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.719 against each other, the seniors. It was seventh seeners. They 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.400 looked at us and they was like, yeah, we're about 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.800 to smack them. We got on the court man they 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.080 seen who we was like quick, we started whipping. We 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:52.120 was up twelve quick and uh coach was like, yeah, 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.560 we gotta switch something up. Seniors went to the coach 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.919 and was like, I think we're gonna sit down. We're 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.639 gonna take that role as leaders. They let all us 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.280 fresh and rock out except for Carris. They was like, yeah, 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.280 we're gonna red shirt him. Bline was like, yeah, we're 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.280 gonna red shirt him. Everybody was like, nah, Carris, nice, 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.240 I don't know what you think The singers went back 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.160 to him, was like, nah, we ain't red shirt and carrots. 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.440 He gonna play and that's when we just started all 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.399 that's hard. After that, Yeah, that's love. That's sure. That 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:22.000 happens nowhere else. We came to campus. Man, my mama 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:24.199 dropped me off and I was like, man, where am 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.119 i a? You know what I'm saying. I was like, 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:27.680 it was me and mitching the doing. It was he 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.960 was my roommate, Carros and Spike was over here and 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:32.920 Nick and I was like, man, it's all three of 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.639 us in the doing right in the hallway next to 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:36.680 each other. I'm like, man, we was having a good time. 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.120 That's why we came into practice. Start smacking them coaches like, yeah, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.320 we gotta switch it up. They're gonna start nah they 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.200 just I mean, of course, shout out to your coach, 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.000 but at the same something, shout out to them bro, 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:50.359 because that don't happen. Yeah, so where they go to 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.680 the coach and not Man, fuck these little niggas many 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:59.120 not taking nah yea, they all got real good job. 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.560 Josh bartle thing is just got promoted with the Sun. Yeah. 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:07.520 Carmen bro he was one of them seniors. Yeah, so yeah, man, 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.760 they doing good things. They live. It was always smart. 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.000 It was another story too. We was the first one 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.280 to have them slogans on your shirt. And we got 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.760 to the to the final four and we had we owned. 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:20.360 So we was like, yeah, we come in the court 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.399 and we switched on the light switch. We own. We 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.080 turned on Yeah, and we was the first ones with 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.040 the slogan Adidas start selling them. Was we created this 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:32.239 by ourself. We went and printed them the team win 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:33.879 and printing them and we was just we were the 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.240 only ones that had them. Did it. The next game, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:39.920 March madness came out at the whole we own slogan. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:42.040 We ain't selling none of that money and getting nothing. 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.320 All of them seens was business students and everything. You know, 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:46.399 so we know what's going on. We see thirteen like 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.520 it's over with think about to make millions off this ship. 0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:56.399 We ain't get nothing. Damn bro Bro, they millionaires now 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:59.920 if they would have did that. Tre Burke National Players 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.040 year millionaire. I mean obviously he made to the league, 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.200 but cold was trade Burking Colors bro. I mean we 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:07.960 know because we watched it. But you you know what 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.480 I mean, you rocked with him. So what was he luck? 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.680 I personally ain't no trade. When I pulled up, I know, 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:15.560 you know, a little dude from Ohio. You know, I'm 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.440 like little light skin du he got tattoos, you know, 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.480 corn rolls or you know, I'm like, man, who is 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.840 this kid started he started hooping. We called him like AI, 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.680 he's just cold with it, you know, justic with the ball. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:29.600 And back then, you know, you get to the league. 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.440 You know, people taller and back in college. Man, he 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:34.399 used to get all his shit off. He was cold. 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:37.480 But to see a player like that National Player of 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.240 the Year it was Denar Robinson at that time in 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.400 Michigan and Shade Burke. You couldn't go to the cafeteria, 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.359 you couldn't go to Windy's if one of them was 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.600 over there. It was like, yeah, it's a rap that 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:49.720 I knew he had a bit. That's why I asked 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:51.960 you about it. But I mean, shout out to everybody else, 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.840 but I knew he was like a big deal. He 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:58.320 was a nigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot Nar Robinson 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:02.119 was like that. He had it cracking damn both of 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:07.399 them on imagine that, and that's so crazy. We talk 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:12.439 about the nil money, like, especially at fucking Michigan. Niggas 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.160 be hating no dual to me. But I understand I'm 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.920 saying Nigazaga too. But I'm making way more brand living 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:18.960 on campus than I would pooping in the league. It's 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:24.000 a second round pig that changes everything. Hell yeah, so 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.639 you know what I'm saying, Like you said, unfortunately, we 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.480 talked about what happened, but I wasn't making it to 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.320 the final four because like a lot of people don't 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.159 get to experience that running ha tournament, Like what's that feeling? Like? 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.639 That's probably like probably a part of paying like the 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:36.440 best tournament in the world, Okay, because it's not like 0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:40.439 the NBA playoffs, No, Nah, it's crazy. It's fans from 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.920 everywhere obviously showing up National Championship game, playing in front 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.119 of seventy five thousand at the Georgia Dome. I'm in 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:49.960 warm ups almost air ball my first shot because everybody 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:51.880 looked like ants in the background. You know what I'm saying, 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.439 I ain't never experienced that playing on the court. Everybody 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:55.919 else looked like ants. You know what I'm saying. It's 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.000 usually the other way around. Looking at you so I'm like, 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:00.840 you threw off my whole you know what I'm saying, 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.119 my shot. But you get to the final four, you 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.320 get all the fresh gear. You know, whoever, whatever team, whatever, 0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:09.919 whoever spots you're seeing, you all that pack of all 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.480 a good gear. The plane is different, you know what 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.359 I'm saying, is different, pert DM different, everything different. You 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.560 get to that final four. That's hard. But I'll never 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.359 forget coming back from the championship. We had all the 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.359 fans that was waiting on us as soon as we 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.480 had lost, though, but all the fans was there afterwards, 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.040 and it's like winning the championship when you get back 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.320 and it's all the students just there, like one hundred 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:37.000 thousand people just in the in the streets. So imagine that. 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:42.479 Damn my teammates spiked spike all break. He tweeted Kate 0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.040 up there and when they took national championship, so he 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:47.720 got back. He was the man on captives. Yeah, all 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:54.360 the little chicks, ye, Trey Burke, because that's the trade 0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:56.560 was in foul trouble. We had seventeen as the backup 0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:01.440 point guard. Remember who he tweeted k up there afterward? 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:05.040 Was the man I was I was at the crib 0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.280 shitty because I was like, all right, Trey Breaker, foul trouble. 0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:09.160 I'm like, who, what the fuck is this little white 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.520 dude killing us? He was going nuts in the first half. 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.399 I was pissed. I'm looking at Russ Smith like, if 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:17.520 you don't wipe the fuck up? He one nine yep, 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:22.800 crown point yep, ye, running rapid. All right. So you 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.960 know you kind of like what you're going into the 0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:27.720 draft situation. You know what I'm saying, You had a 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.760 chance to leave earlier than you even expected for school. 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:33.119 This tell us about that process of how you like, 0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.320 you know, that summer going into your sophomore year you 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.159 kind of like, oh damn, I could have been his 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.680 And then like I'm going back to school. How was 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.400 that process for you thinking that out? And then when 0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.040 did you decide all right, I'm gonna go ahead and bounce. Yeah. 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.159 I mean I wasn't really thinking about it when I 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.520 when I first got to Michigan, I was just trying 0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:49.879 to I was trying to go there and be on 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:51.600 the team, you know, not be a role player. I 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.320 was obviously trying to start, but I didn't expect for 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.240 things to start moving like that. We made to national championship. 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.879 We lost. Next day, they like, yo, you leaving or not? 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:01.880 You know what I'm saying, that's the option, Like it's 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:03.840 the next morning when you wake up in the hotel. 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.200 It like we're gonna leave or we're not, you know. 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.159 And I hadn't discussed it with my family nothing. I 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.679 remember talking to Pops and I think I'm eighteen nineteen 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:14.680 at the time, and he looked at me and he 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.520 was like, I don't think he ready yet. And I 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:19.879 was like, I had to respect that, because this is Pops. 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.480 He's been at that level or whatever. And back then 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.960 for me, I ain't know if I would have knew 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.200 what I knew now, we would have had a discussed 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:32.320 me off, because you know, you know how we talk. 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.040 You know, like the difference between going top ten and 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.800 going I went forty second round, So the difference between 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.600 that right there is four years then they're man, you know, 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:47.399 nice bread locked in, So yeah, I get second round Minnesota. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:50.960 I ended up Wiggins was that's when the whole Lebron 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.840 trade went down. Wiggins came to Minnesota and me and 0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:56.680 Lavine got drafted to Minnesota to two. So I was 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.040 the third or fourth wing on that on that spot, 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.479 they had to let me go and then I had 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.639 to make the team. Uh, it's the Sixers picked me 0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.400 up and through the way versus I made the Sixers team, 0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.760 and then my whole career was just like like that. 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.800 And it could have been different. Off the top team. 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.119 It would have been totally different because you're given a 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.560 bigger opportunity when you picked ten. Even like if he 0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.080 went to camp, he would have went to camp with 0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.720 Minnesota and he killed Levine because Lavigne wasn't good his 0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.200 first year. He was, but you killed. It's like, okay, 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.960 you're killing him, but he ain't about to play. We 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:33.399 gotta give him a chance. Eight. So it's like, but 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.840 I couldn't believe he went back to school. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.400 I had that decision to go back and go ahead. No, 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.400 I was just I was saying, well, Bro. I was like, 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.960 well shit, Bro, Like I told you, Bro. Bro must 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:52.800 have had that thing back trying to let go. Yeah, yeah, 0:28:54.120 --> 0:29:03.000 that grip o. Life is good. Like you said, you'll 0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:05.080 come home a little after a loss. I couldn't imagine 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.720 the day to day he was probably living. Man. Yeah, 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.920 I really wasn't. I wasn't even thinking like that, like 0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.280 all right, we're going top ten. Yeah, we out of here. 0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.000 You know, I was thinking more like, all right, I'm 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.200 trying to line up what's best for me. Pop say, 0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:19.880 you know, I ain't ready. I'm trying to line up. 0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:21.600 All right, we're gonna go back next year and kill 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.000 I come back to Michigan. I'm supposed to be playing 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.320 the three. Blin still got me at the three and 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.280 the four. You know what I'm saying. I look up, 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:34.120 I'm gard Stephen Adams. One game, I'm I'm like, yo, nah, 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.720 this ain't what I sorry two. You know how college 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.800 coaches do you know you when you now you going 0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.040 back or whatever? They got you in the bag, They're like, okay, 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.480 now we're gonna get our plans straight. Yea. So it's 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:48.520 crazy how the game work, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.840 And you and George was talking about that. But you know, 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.520 as I got older, I learned how to understood how 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.360 you got to play the game. As you become a professional, 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.760 things changed and you gotta let certain things go to 0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.440 you know, that's alcohol before we move home, and you 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.080 got to talk about that. Steven Adams mashup I just 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.240 you ain't gotta go on the chill, but man, I remember, 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.800 keep your own bro. He kept me on. Bro, it's 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.200 a free throw line. Box out of pocket. You know, 0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.440 I'm trying to box out Steven Adams on a bro. 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:19.920 I turned around and go like this, you know I 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.720 I turned around and go like this. It was that 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:29.040 he was going the strongest in the world broers as 0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.280 a joke. Bro. Nah, yeah, for real, no matter who, 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.280 he's too strong. Bro. What's crazy is we was in 0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:39.680 a bubble and Steven he just plays ukuleles. He's just 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.320 a chill He cool, cool dude, he got that court man. 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:46.240 He's strongest. Life is peace. Who with Steven Adams in 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.640 any aspect of life? Bro? He got eighteen brothers and 0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:51.880 sisters and they all be That's crazy. He didn't got 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.120 beat up there. He don't care about nothing. The league's way. 0:30:55.160 --> 0:31:01.160 He moved. That's crazy. Beat my wife stretch. Yeah, that's why. 0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.560 That's why I'd understanding college players. Now that the portals open, 0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.360 they'd be like, oh, why is everybody jumping in the 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:08.360 portal because y'all don't know would be going on from 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.840 year to year. Bro, People gotta make the best decisions 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.880 for them as players. Coaches can leave with no penalty. 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.560 But y'all be tripping with the kid. Make a good 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.600 decision for him if you have an issue with that 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.240 that you like. They said tournament because right now every 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.320 team is good right now is because of transfers. Shut 0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.479 the fuck up. So, like you said, your first year 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.680 in the league, he was in Minnesota. Like, that's crazy 0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.480 because when you think about all those guys you're talking 0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.520 about now, they are all the different situations right now. 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:35.400 Did we all think the Lavigne was gonna be close 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:39.000 to better than Wiggins? I knew he was talented. You're 0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.000 smoking earlier. I'll give you a props. You didn't say 0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:42.560 that earlier. I always thought he was nice, but I 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.480 didn't think he was gonna be as cold as Wig was. 0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:49.160 I always thought Wig was colde But that had to 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.760 be the highest jumping team in the league. Bro. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:57.280 y'alla one team. Yeah, y'all won't win it, ship, but 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.200 I have to practice. We was having a crazy Look, oh, 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:08.000 y'all fucking championship ship. You gotta jacket? Would we wouldn't 0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.200 do it, but shit, that's scared. That's crazy. But me 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.480 and Zach because we was drafted together, so we was 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:16.120 just just home. That was the homie man. We used 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:17.840 to I used to take water to his crib because 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:19.720 I remember he wouldn't even drink no water. Now we 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.120 would go to restaurant, he just fries milkshake. So I'm like, 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.840 you know, go back to the story with Yeah, man, 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.680 you gotta do this. You know at nineteen, you know, 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.480 I'm trying to tell him. So we would just go 0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:32.920 back to the crib and play video games the whole day, 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.120 hit the gym at night, and Jack was like that 0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.120 he was a dog. And I knew Zach was gonna 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:39.959 be nice, just the fact that he had that at him. 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:41.680 But to go back to what we were talking about, 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.680 Trey Burke was that way. And when you had asked, 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:46.960 when y'all asked me about Tray, Tray set the tone. 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.560 And I was already getting up from high school like that. 0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.800 Tray set the tone for me saying in the gym 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.360 at night, Tray of being in the gym to three am. Damn. Yeah. 0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:59.000 We would order to you know, the little meal cars 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.200 that you get in school. We ordered the meal cards, 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.720 the pizza or whatever we get for free to the arena, 0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.200 and we like, yeah, drop it off here and we 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.560 eat go to play video games. Were right back out 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.720 there at three am, because you know we're in the dorm. 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.360 Ain't nobody trying to stay in the B line when 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.800 let us stay in the apartment. So we liked in 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.480 the dorms. We might as well stay in the gym 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:18.080 the whole the whole night. We was in there all night. 0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.080 And that's where I got that from. That's crazy. Did 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.040 you when you was at White used just working out 0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.000 with the team. We usually all I lived in the 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.200 gym and college I didn't start. I took basketball series 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.040 and I got the couliners from high school and give 0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.440 a fuck. But when I got to college, I lived 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:33.920 in the gym. It was nothing to do it wait 0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.840 for us. So I shot two thousand shots to day, 0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.960 me and this dude named Gary Clark. That's crazy. Yeah, 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.120 that's all we did. I literally I never went out 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:44.720 for I never went to I went to two parties 0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.560 in my whole time. I wait for us. Damn. Yeah, 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:49.800 unless we went to a club after again, went to 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.440 the End club like twice or something like that. But 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.560 I never went out, Like, I didn't even talk. I 0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:59.200 walked around with my headphones one talk to two people 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:05.720 James Johnson, gar anybody awake forward nigga. It was probably weird, 0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:12.160 like I ain't speaking nobody football niggas, but that was 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.920 just me. That's how it talks. You was when when 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.960 we first met, because I ain't no tea back then. 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:19.000 I'm from Gary and you know y'all from ye y'all 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.000 from down here. So I'm like, man, I ain't know you, 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:26.520 you know, so I had to introduce myself like I 0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:28.040 ain't know what. People don't mess with me or not 0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:29.719 because I'm like, man, I'm from the g and he 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:31.520 down here and he's like, nah, what up to you? 0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.319 I know you're Pots from back in the Egg, you know. Yeah, 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.719 you know you have to barber shop blacks Pots stay 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.920 in the Egg. So we were just shopping up then. 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.680 But I was like, nah, bro, ain't gonna he ain't 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.600 gonna mess with nobody on the team. Just gonna stay 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.200 to yourself. That's usually I am. But I was like, yeah, 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:52.040 off top many, Yeah that's crazy because you think about 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.719 it like that sounds like real casual that you'all just 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.000 saying that ship. But that's really incredible niggas really like 0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.440 living in the gym, like you have to be that 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.360 deady need to separate yourself in the times and situations. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.000 But it's funny as hell just because you know what 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.319 your demeanor you act like that makes so much since 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.840 it's just a brain for that ship. Also, you know 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.840 what I'm saying, you gotta you gotta represent from the 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.359 two one nine right now, we got some things going 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:17.520 on because the outside world disrespects Indiana. Y'all gotta claim 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:20.080 to any animals, bro, we gotta we gotta trace they 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:22.000 they zip code and make sure that they're not from 0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:23.600 the three one seven. But we're gonna put them on 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.200 the two one nine until I get the shit shorted 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.080 out because I get tired of when we go places 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:33.279 to the people, we say any animals. Yeah, I want 0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:35.640 you know what I'm saying, love to two one nine, 0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.600 but I need you to speak to your people. You're 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:38.879 gonna have to get to the bottom of that. I'm 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.879 putting that on y'all. I'm not accepting that no more, 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.640 put put them in one. You know what I'm saying, 0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.480 marrible that got space with the niggas whole bart. I'm saying, 0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:50.920 you'll can throw them off at whole bart but you 0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:56.000 gotta you gotta take care of them, bro, not bro. 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:00.600 That's funniest hell man. And so like you know what 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:02.319 I'm saying, you make it into the league. Now as 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.800 your relationship grows with your pops, I mean, not to 0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.160 grow obviously it's so dad, but like it's just different 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.399 talk now, all right, you grow, you got your own bread. 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.400 You in the league. It's a conversations changer. Yeah, obviously 0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.799 he's still got you. But how did those conversations evolve? Yeah, 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:17.960 I mean throughout the years, they've just been evolving. I 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.160 mean finance talking, we talk about money. A lot of 0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.000 people don't know. My pops was the first one to 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.000 ask for a hundred million dollars facts, and I don't 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:28.719 think he wanted to do it, but his agent at 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:30.480 the time was like, nah, we're gonna go push for 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.680 this this hunter and the Bucks ended up getting sixty eight, 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:35.840 you know, but but still to ask for it, he 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.320 opened up that gate for a lot of people to 0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:41.200 go get that back. Yeah, So I always got to 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.040 keep that in the back of my mind. Is like, man, 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.360 my pops really reinvented a lot of a lot of stuff, 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.080 you know, and he was a dog so but outside 0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.640 of that, you know, I also respect who he is 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.680 and as a father, you know, to be able to 0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.040 lead because I know what it takes. We know what 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.120 it takes to be in the league and nine months 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:00.840 out of your time and then to still be with 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.200 the family and do what you gotta do. I respect 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:05.320 that for real. So we talk about a lot of 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.640 different stuff. And I got a daughter now who who five? 0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.640 So I need that guidance in my life, you know, 0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:12.680 in times of all investments, you know, all all type 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.920 of stuff. Yeah, that's far because like you said, you 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:16.799 see your pops do it his wife and the right 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:18.719 way at the same time. So now it's like, all right, 0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.640 you in the league. Now this conversation is different. Put 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:23.680 your money here and put stuff here. Don't be asking 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.040 me for no money because you're rich. I know how 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.800 much money you make. You ain't get no payday loans. Yeah. No, 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.239 My apostles are always good though, because a lot of 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.520 people they really don't. They think like we we Me 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.600 and my brother grew up with Pops and we was 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.640 like really spoon fed. But I grew up my mom 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.520 and my grandma, my dad did what he had to 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:42.960 do was on the road. We've seen him when he 0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.080 could and I respect that. But I grew up with 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.799 my mom and my grandma and we from they from 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.680 the g and it's like, it's sir, man, everything we 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.239 do is is the right way. You know. They ain't 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:57.120 going for nothing sloppy. So Mom, yeah, man, And uh, 0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.040 you know, she told me to go back to school 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:00.680 when I left. She like, you, you're gonna go back 0:38:00.719 --> 0:38:02.920 to school and do that. And I just finished up 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:06.520 Harvard Business School, So I went back and did that thing. 0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.600 Appreciate it, I can grabs me. Yeah, I was gonna 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.160 get to that. That's hard. How was it going to school? 0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:12.480 Because I mean, you know what said the last time 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.640 you went to school is a little different. Time I 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.440 went to school. I think it was man with two fourteen. 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.560 So I'm like trying to back up. Like I opened 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:21.320 up a book. I'm like, man, it's been a minute. 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:23.239 It was a bunch of reading and all that, but 0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.160 I knocked it out. I ended up getting number one 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:29.000 in the class, So congrats, b But I want to, 0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:31.960 you know, start my own business, open up business companies 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.160 and all of that. A lot of stuff I've been 0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:36.520 interested in I've been knocking out throughout these past two 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.080 years that I've been stepping away from the game since 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.839 Sacramento take care of my daughter, but I got its 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.919 real estate, Crypto. I got a chance to learn all 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.839 that stocks, you know, and really teach myself all that shit. 0:38:48.239 --> 0:38:50.080 And that's what's important. Man. Like you see now, so 0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:52.040 many athletes, we don't hear too many of those typical 0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.200 stories of like athletes are going broken more because it's 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.719 it's draining the like I don't want to be a 0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:57.719 thirty for thirty, but I got all these avenues and 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.120 it's people to teach you. But like you said, you 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:01.200 went back to school. You didn't go to iv Tech, 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.480 no disrespect the ib Tech, but you went to the 0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:07.080 fucking IVY League. Like I can't only imagine the last 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.920 time I went back and look at a fucking textbook. 0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.320 And like you said, when you was back in school, 0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.759 you was win milling should getting your grades if you 0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:17.880 weren't trying. That's hard. Yeah, I couldn't imagine going on 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.040 school the dog. It was crazy though, because it's like 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.600 all right, y'all know Gillette Razors Safer, It's like, all right, 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.480 we got to break down the company, look at a 0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:29.080 bunch of numbers and it's like, what did they do 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.680 that was different that made them successful? And like when 0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.919 they shit wasn't selling, they cut the prices in half 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.000 or they cut it down a certain amount. So it's 0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.279 just knowing how to operate that business and like how 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.640 to because these folks talk about two hundred million, three 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:44.160 hundred million dollar companies like it's nothing. You know, the 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.279 owner I knew I wanted to get into business to 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.759 be involved in all this stuff. When the owner of Minnesota, 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.360 his name Glenn Taylor, but he owned a recycling company. 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.320 He come into games every day laughing at us on 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:59.000 the court, you know, just happy. I'm like, whoa dude? Different? 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.440 I wantn't do that, you know, but paper exactly. So 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:04.759 that's what it's about, man. It's just leveling up so 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.279 I can teach my daughter, I could teach the next generations. 0:40:07.360 --> 0:40:09.399 Like you said, I got a foundation, but I think 0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:11.200 it's important that we learn all that stuff so we 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:13.800 can stay on top, not just get there. That's what 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.000 I'm saying. We got to stay on top. Yeah, because, 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:18.840 like like you said, the way that they break down companies, 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:20.520 you'd be like, damn that this ship on a two 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.840 hundred dollar company. I'd be happy if I had a 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:25.400 ten million dollar company. And then you see that difference 0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:27.879 and you're like, oh, okay, you gotta play this game. 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.640 That shit crazy. Yeah, exactly exactly, And we got it 0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:34.680 in us because it's with everything, the same thing with 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.040 the shoe game. Everything that we do, it's ways to 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.359 whatever you interested in, it's ways to build that out, 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.880 to be a master at that and to make a 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.719 successful business. Yeah you know what I'm saying, especially with marketing, 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.239 because we make everything dope, Like we'd be we'd be 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.359 champion the craziest shit and we'd be the reason when 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.960 it dies. Yeah, like we really be having all the 0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:55.920 control ship. If niggas got on TV and we say 0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.600 hey we don't with George no more and really stuck 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:01.080 to it, it's gonna be a different They go sit 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.279 on the store. Yeah, you ain't got away for your 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.120 Jorgans in the middle. You got a river Oaks to 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.480 pick them sits up. When you stopped hoping, did you 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.759 go straight to school or you took a little break? Yeah? Nah. 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:14.880 So when I was with the Kings, and I think 0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.200 it was February marks when I got released, and a 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:19.920 lot of people don't know I had hyper extending my 0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:22.560 knee twice. So I'm on the court. I think I 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.400 was closing out on Jimmy Butler with the heat and 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.120 closing out, and it's just my knee just locked and 0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:30.520 just gave out. And that's a scary feeling when you 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.839 just running and you just give out. So that ended 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.600 up twice right before the King situation. I ended up 0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.840 leaving the team and then just got my got my 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.400 stuff right here in Indianapolis is home for me, make 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.239 sure my knee was right, got all the therapy ship born, yeah, 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.600 and then yeah, and then just make sure I make 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.640 sure I just handle what I wanted to handle, what 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.960 I wanted to do with my time. And now I 0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.279 got everything that I need to get out the way 0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:56.480 and now focused on getting back to the league. And 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.680 like I said, started my business. I ain't announced it yet, 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.600 but something to do with involving with dunking and hooping 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:06.480 for the for the next generation. It's introducing that to them. 0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.279 So you know, I got the sauce, the secrets to that, 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.360 to that skill, and we could talk about that. I 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:14.399 remember when he was doing the dunk contest, like it's 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.200 a way to jump. Yeah. I'm like, you just go 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:19.080 go through the drip. He's like, nah, it's a secret 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:22.359 to everything. Man, this niggas. You got some space gym. 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.359 The strip shoes, remember that I bought all of them 0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:30.360 and everything. So that's the reason why I'm doing this 0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.360 is because I bought the shoes where it gave you 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.080 the heel or whatever you couldn't touch the ground. And 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.120 you know, I bought the DVDs to get my vertical 0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.200 up and I put sat in my shoes like Jordan 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.000 everything and I figured out that the secrets to jump 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.920 and the sauce to jump. And so that's hard. I 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.120 want to get back and do that, but scale it 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.960 out and make it a business as you should. Yeah, 0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.520 don't do nothing for free. You can't now, don't do 0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.040 nothing for free. And that's hard. Like you said, you know, 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:56.879 you stuck that in there. You say you're working back, 0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.800 you know, sing to get back activity streets. You know 0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:00.439 what I'm saying. You see they headed out the bags, 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.640 go get you another one. I got a couple of 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.160 questions for you know what I'm saying. Far as your 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.360 poke career, what was the favorite team you're playing on 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.560 so far? The Warriors without a doubt. I can fucking 0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.160 imagine a lot of people. That's a crazy topic because 0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:13.960 a lot of people, you know, they shit on us 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.480 that year with the Warriors. They like, oh, y'all, y'all 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:19.239 was ya was trash and you know we we was like, 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.640 we didn't win a lot of games. But I'm looking 0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:24.600 at it like, I'm here guarding Brian every night. I'm 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:28.360 guarding Brian Kauai PG. You know, every night, I'm at 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.200 that three spot. I'm starting. I'm doing what I gotta 0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.920 do on both ends of the court, having the career numbers. 0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:39.080 But besides all of that, playing with Dre Klay Thompson, 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:41.719 Steph Curry, getting to see them like what they really like. 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.560 It was crazy. Like Steve Kerr, I remember during practice 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.320 one time, he's like, all right, we're gonna call the 0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.680 play reverse. He's like, nah, scratch that, I gotta I 0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.120 drop a tesla. I'm gonna click it like this verse. 0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:57.319 I'm like, yo, But it's just stuff like that way 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.560 keep us locked in. Were laughing and shit, But he like, 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.960 you think it's a funny joke, but we really like 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.839 locked in. Now we're like, all right, reverse everybody rubbing verse. 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.320 You know. But Coach like that man he sometimes you 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:10.680 walk in the gym, he like seventy five, Sonny, just 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:12.360 go and enjoy some somening, get your shots up, go 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.560 and enjoy the sun. No practice, damn you know what 0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:20.279 I'm saying? What going for that? You need? What you 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:22.400 wasn't doing that? Bud was kind of like bubb would do. 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.440 That was like that. What was their work ethic? Like 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.120 seeing Draymond and there. I mean, I know you clearly 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:34.920 think you a thousand ice on your thinking. I know 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:45.799 you're you've been dedicated to their motherfucking bait, that little 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.319 lit my size of it. Nigga, alright, no, you're working 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.160 that waking bait. How was they ship though? Like watching 0:44:55.239 --> 0:45:00.320 them like way step Steph Curry is is like a 0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.839 beast man. Yeah, anything hand eye coordination. I think I've 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.680 seen an interview with andre Igudalla saying it, but anything 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:09.640 hand eye coordination, where if Steph would shoot, like shooting 0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:12.040 from a mile away, he's gonna hit the target. If 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:15.440 he's darts, he gonna hit the target, pool table, he's 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.239 gonna he gonna knock that down anything, hand eye coordination, 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.120 steph owning and that he really liked that. But as 0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.439 far as like his practice time, it's crazy, man, dude, 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.000 don't stop running. You see why he is shape. Yeah, 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.719 you know what I'm saying. You see why he is successful. 0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.080 He gets to the gym early every day and he 0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:33.719 put it in his work, you know what I'm saying. 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:36.880 So I respect all of him because too, Drea pull 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.360 up to pull up here to the pock put you know, 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:43.080 you know Dray coolest hell so same thing with Clay. 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.600 They all just they don't operate like the superstar mentality 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.120 where they can you know what I'm saying. They operate 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:52.080 off off love for the teammates. You can't do nothing 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:56.399 but respect that for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna that's always 0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.399 be one of my fighter players. But you can tell 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.680 like the culture like you so I hate when people 0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.240 say that were but you could tell like the culture, 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:05.360 like the relationships they gout there like that ship genuine 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.960 but especially like y'all who playing the multiple teams. You 0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.400 go from places that's really lit like that, and then 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.760 you go to another organization. It's like, Nah, these niggas 0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:14.880 ain't on this at all. It's hard to dial in 0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:19.239 after that shit, like you got a really different sit 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.759 Let's talk about that practial school with oh yeah, yeah, 0:46:22.800 --> 0:46:26.480 I mean I went from Atlanta to the Paces. I 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:29.600 love the people with the people with the Pacers are 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.680 good people. Like the people around the organization and good people. 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.719 But that team was just not boy dysfunctional. It was 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:40.160 I love people with the Pacers that make them, you know, 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.080 like a decent organization as they do to small things 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.799 like when I came here, I was in Minnesota when 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.600 nobody that helped me find a crib. My mama out 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:50.200 there with me. We're trying to go get my friendly 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:54.000 to you know, practices, and shit. I get to Indiana, 0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.120 they got everything set up. You know, can and call like, hey, 0:46:57.200 --> 0:46:58.480 we got the house is set up. You want to 0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.320 go check out the cribs we got for dealership. You know, 0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.920 everything lined up with the Pacers. That's all right, you 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.239 know everything else that was going on during that time, 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:11.320 that real crazy time for the Pacers in Indiana. That 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.120 Pacer team, the organization is great. That it was really 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.719 good people. What's your funniest Pacier moment though? Off the 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:19.640 court with the squad, did y'all ever go out somewhere 0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.560 at least I know it was hectic. But can you 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:24.920 remember time when y'all stepped out somewhere and y'all just 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:27.279 enjoyed each other? Pause? But you know what I mean, 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.880 just take it. I don't remember really doing much of 0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:34.040 the team really ain't two games, y'a niggas didn't go 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:37.239 to one little. I mean we went places, but like 0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.200 as a group, we wouldn't. Like that's a different as 0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:42.200 team though. If you look at the different individuals on 0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.040 that team, I can't see them niggas. Click it up. 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.279 I remember was it YR year. I think I got 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.520 hurt and there was my ankle. I got hurt my niggle, 0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.160 and I got back from my surgery, and the whole 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.600 team was at my crib. We was doing some type 0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.840 of like team buying. It was it was a mandatory 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:59.640 team buying it things. I was like, yeah, we're gonna 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:01.919 have it at my crib. And I ended up getting hurt. 0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.399 So I come back from surgery. You know, I'm high 0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.560 off this stuff that they gave you from the surgery. 0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:09.480 I just popped the perk thirty I get back to 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:11.880 the crib. I don't know anybody that's there. You know, 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:15.400 I'm feeling wave like the whole the whole paces squad 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:17.640 is in there, you know. So that was funny, said, 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.759 I never forget that day. I thought you was on 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.880 that too. Now I wouldn't know that same year, the 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:23.560 year I was there. That's when you was like coming 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.359 into your own and I'm like, why y'a don't start 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.480 this fool. I was throwing him live. We had a 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:31.960 little backdoor play. I'm like every time every time I 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:33.920 used to say that. He was like every time, I'm 0:48:35.760 --> 0:48:39.440 every time. It did, but they wouldn't feeling that they was. 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.000 But I remember when he was starting on a win 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.759 street because we was winning all our games at home 0:48:46.000 --> 0:48:50.080 and then you know, yeah, shit go well yeah, I'll 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.040 be so sad talking about you know, I love it, 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:58.239 but so sad. The energy just drained. It wasn't like that. 0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:00.120 It was like that's you could have been good. We're 0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.680 supposed to be. It was supposed to be. If you 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:06.200 go down there, man, that was cool, bro, were supposed 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.440 We started the year off with stucky. We had so 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.279 many people on that team. It was so many forgot 0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:14.000 under six foot gards of that team, man, so many 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:20.600 you shout c J Miles. Ye, did we have c 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.120 J Watson at some point too? We had all the 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.200 CJ fuck because I remember I text this nigga after 0:49:28.280 --> 0:49:30.759 the first game. I said, you know what, my fucking 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:35.520 mouths he might be worth for them, said, I'm not 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:40.759 fucking with Jeff. I never get Jeff hit that. That 0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:42.840 fake passed and then threw that bitch off, and I 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.160 was like, oh, we lift this ship. He can't push 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:47.120 that bitch and then we just looked in everybody was 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.360 like fuck. But really we just couldn't win on the road. Bro, 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:54.280 we want all our games. We want like thirty games 0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:56.680 at home. Were losing to the nets at that time. 0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:01.720 That's when the next when we was listening to everybody 0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:03.200 on the road. But I think we want like seven 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.040 games on the road. I try to think it was though. 0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.399 I think it was just well. But obviously in talent, 0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.920 it wasn't that food. The chemistry, it was all bad. 0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.680 As soon as I got there, as soon as I 0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:18.360 walked in the door, it was can we blame it 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:23.600 on you? It was a lot of I was the team, 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:27.200 like the team mentor yeah I was. I was a 0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.920 young young everybody's doing but you know, Mama's coming to me, 0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:32.680 you know, And I'm like, yeah, I'm just trying to 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.120 keep up with the way, with everything that's going on, 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:38.879 you know, my eyesight, I'm trying to look around see 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.239 what's going on every day. It was something I'm like, man, 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:43.320 this is crazy. I just put my head down like 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:49.200 that get some money mantra the third But I used 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:50.880 to tell him like, bro, you're gonna be good. You 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:53.440 just gotta play. I gotta let you play. Yeah, it 0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:57.960 was not playing like they shouldn't. That's crazy. So we 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.920 can blame Jeffer that Basil teams, which is in that's right, 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:04.320 that's wrong with that. We played a big part. I 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:09.040 probably was like six, I take that. That's a nice 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:13.839 shot because I just went open to being like yeah, 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:16.040 I mean we talked about it. I'm going to open 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.960 to the idea of being like that guy. I was 0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:20.440 like that, they're gonna have to be cool with me. 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.440 Abody about to be all around. Ain't ride nobody meat 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:28.000 paused like how to be but you were supposed to 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:33.360 jump up, peg back bron see what I'm saying, messy. 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.160 It was just to trying the rumors to bring Gord 0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:42.200 herod in what I'm saying, Bro, it wouldn't neat Bro. 0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.719 They love God here they still I wouldn't mad. No. 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.840 We played the Hornets last weekend. I heard the broadcast. 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.440 It was like, God, they would be a great addition. 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:55.200 How I swear to guy. No, no, y'all could use me. 0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:58.520 No stop that happened. That's gonna happen. It's gonna happen 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.360 to the We're gonna retire. Look what they did the 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.720 Ricky Rubio. They wished him to be a pacer forever. 0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:05.799 He didn't even play. It was like, at some point, 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:09.040 we gonna get this nigga on the rock. Trying to 0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:10.719 get Ricky for like three straight years. He was there 0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:12.880 last year, but remember he was hurt. He didn't ever 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:14.680 play for the places, but they were determined to get 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.480 them motherfucking three or seven and get them. That's what 0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:20.440 they gonna do. What year did you entered the Dunk concert? 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:25.480 Seventeen seventeen when that was the next year? Yeah, it 0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.920 was it was that year. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah yeah, 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:32.919 because that's when I came up to you, I'm about 0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:35.520 to win this motherfucker and he was in there practicing. Yeah, 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:40.200 and I'm watching the nigga through the door. Oh shit, 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:43.040 I see what he's doing. Like, I ain't gonna say that, 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:47.120 but I'm like, okay, how quick did you sign that? 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.320 Shooting with that with that that championship man, Well, it 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.160 was crazy. I was signing d Way shoes, so you know, 0:52:53.320 --> 0:52:55.239 coming out we could talk about that. It was they 0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.360 give you the options, you know, Nike gonna give you 0:52:57.520 --> 0:52:59.880 like a little twenty five bands and give you like 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:02.920 the resting gear, you know, twenty five bands, twenty five 0:53:02.960 --> 0:53:05.640 bands and gear, and Adida's gonna get you like whatever. 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:08.120 Leading was like, all right, we'll throw you were back. 0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:10.880 So I'm like, all right, I'm going with leading the 0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.320 gate after gate and uh, I was one of the 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.279 first ones, you know, that take that type of deal. 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.880 It was my rookie year. D Wade ended up seeing 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:20.600 me with the Summer League and then I did a 0:53:20.640 --> 0:53:22.160 three sixty. D Wade seeing me and I was like, 0:53:22.239 --> 0:53:24.520 now you coming up a way a Wade. So ever 0:53:24.640 --> 0:53:26.279 since then me and d Wade we got cool. He 0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.160 let me make my own shoes. I put the logo 0:53:28.239 --> 0:53:30.840 on my shoes. We did a shoot here in that 0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.839 list everything. But so we was like, Yo, we want 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.120 to do a crazy shoot for the Dunk contest. When 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.120 you take pictures and the flash go the show, whole 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.880 shoe gonna be reflective and it's gonna gonna change colors. 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.040 So they did that on the shoe for me and 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:45.880 I ended up. I had like two or three different 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:49.040 shoes that I wore, but the eyes were stacked against 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:54.600 me crazy. I remember it was me, Aaron Gordon, DeAndre Jordan, 0:53:55.239 --> 0:54:00.520 and Derek Jones Junior and my age and had called 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.239 me because at first, I'm like, nah, I don't think 0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:04.200 you know I can dunk, but I don't think I'm 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:05.840 gonna do to dunk contest. I don't know if this 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:07.759 is for me. I don't do that type of style 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:11.080 duncing and uh. He called me back and was like, 0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.200 I got somebody for you, and I was like, okay, 0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.799 let me talk to dude. He texts me, you're gonna 0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.239 do a three sixty between the legs. He was like, 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:22.360 throw it off the backboard, double tack tap between. He 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.319 texts me a list of ten dunks I had never 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:29.680 heard before. I was he out his mind choosing a 0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.439 fuck NBA Jamin. You know. Way I met up with dude. 0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.920 He came to the Pacers facility one time after practice. 0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:38.560 We walked through the dunks that he had on the list, 0:54:39.000 --> 0:54:41.280 and I started making them ships. And then he started 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:44.439 stacking my cousin on top of boxes. So at this point, 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.520 my cousin like seven one, seven two, I'm clearing him. 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:49.279 I'm jumping over him. It's the first time I ever 0:54:49.400 --> 0:54:52.279 tried to jump over somebody. In forty minutes, I'm started 0:54:52.320 --> 0:54:54.960 clearing dude. I'm like, yeah, we're gonna win the dunk. Yeah. 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:59.440 Remember that's the practice he was telling I'm winning this. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.799 The pacer aside Jim was pacside Jim. All the brick 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:05.799 in it. It's still there and it's just the favorite now. Yeah. 0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:08.680 So yeah, man. And then we got to New Orleans 0:55:08.760 --> 0:55:11.600 and you know, I didn't go out. I didn't do nothing. 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:13.840 I'm like, nah, I ain't going out. I ain't partying, 0:55:14.280 --> 0:55:16.359 damn in the weekend. I'm here to win a dunk 0:55:16.400 --> 0:55:18.520 contest because ever since a kid, that's what I wanted 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.279 to do. You know, I've seen pops want a ring 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.000 and all that, but it ain't nobody want a dunk contest. 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.560 I'm like, nah, I went une as a kid, I 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.480 broke my glass, the backboard, and you know, in my 0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.120 mom's crib outside, I broke the whole shout out the 0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:33.239 whole backboard and everything, trying to lower the room and 0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.000 dunk as a kid. So I'm replaying this in my 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:40.120 mind as we pull up Aaron Gordon in the locker room, 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.960 h DeAndre Jordan locker room. Nobody stretched. We get out 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.600 there and I'm the only one that's stretching. You know, 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.799 I do some practice dunks. Nobody stretched, nobody did nothing. 0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:52.440 I still got that same mentality. I go out there. 0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:54.520 My first dunk was my best dunk. I stacked my 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.600 cousin on top of somebody's shoulders, cleared them, and I scared. 0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:01.040 I feel like I scared the competition and gored messed 0:56:01.120 --> 0:56:02.920 up his dunks. I just do it, messed up they 0:56:03.000 --> 0:56:05.120 ducks and I ended up winning. And I remember grabbing 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:07.239 a trophy if I like, I blacked out as soon 0:56:07.280 --> 0:56:09.320 as I graduated everything I wanted in my life, my 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.960 life as a kid blacked out as I grabbed. I 0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:14.239 don't remember nothing else that happened as I raised my 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:18.120 head and uh, I grabbed a trophy, walked off and 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:20.799 Meek Mill was on the left and I was blacked out. 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:23.200 I just walked straight past him, and I think it 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.839 was my mom one of my homies was like, hey, gee, 0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:27.560 that's me right there. And as a kid, you know, 0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:29.880 high school, growing up, me was that guy. Like I 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:32.719 was listening to all of me. That my god, you know, 0:56:32.920 --> 0:56:35.600 that's probably my favorite rapper. You're a dream chaser, man, 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:39.040 what's crazy? I'm about the story. I ran back to 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:40.839 him and shook his head. I'm like, I couldn't think 0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:42.360 of nothing. I'm still blacked at this point. I'm like, 0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:58.879 Jane Chases, Yeah, dream chasing, I see it, Melie. After that, though, 0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.479 it was crazy, I started me a bunch of different people. 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.799 I started to come into my own like ice Cube said, 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:05.759 what's up at the garden? You know, all type of 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:08.520 stuff when we started playing, So it was love after that. 0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:11.080 Then it's hard because, like you, I don't know what 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.319 they're gonna do with the Duck contest. Hopefully they get 0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:16.920 this ship back because last year definitely wasn't it. It 0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:21.040 was good this year though, Mac did this thing, yeah, 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:27.160 but the other ship was it was. It was good, bro, bro. 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:29.520 That's why I'll be hitting them dunks. That that Mac 0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.200 was on. That's what I was talking about a little 0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.720 bit about my course, them all them all secrets, them 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:36.000 all a little you know what I'm saying. You've seen 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:39.439 it in that gym. So I want to teach the youth, 0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:41.280 like give away some of them tips, Like if I 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.720 told you, like, hey, this is the one thing I'm 0:57:43.720 --> 0:57:46.200 gonna give away free game. The Dunk coach when he 0:57:46.240 --> 0:57:48.680 came up to me, he was like, hey, g go 0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:50.680 between the legs. And I tried to do it between 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:52.560 the legs, Dunk, I missed it. He was like, yo, 0:57:53.120 --> 0:57:55.760 go up under the knee. It's the same thing. It's 0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:58.000 just an illusion. I went up under my knee. I 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:01.760 started cockingmics back when I did it. I'm like, whoa, Yeah, 0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.880 it seeks to all of it. So that's just and 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:11.360 I'm gonna get to the youngest out there. Fass. That's wild. 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:18.560 But that makes sense though. So duncan under is the 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:22.720 exact saying. I mean, it's gonna look whatever it's gonna look. Saying, 0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:26.240 really damn if you're doing it between the legs, Dune, Yeah, 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:28.320 because most people between you're gonna try to go between 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:30.120 your legs and do all of this. It's like not 0:58:30.280 --> 0:58:32.280 just go up under your do a skip with with 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.440 the dunk, go up under your knee and you'll get it. 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:36.400 That makes weight. It makes a lot of sense when 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.280 you just made it that simple. So it's a bunch 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.520 of stuff that's really that simple. Damn you all know 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.520 how two K got the whole layout where it's like, 0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:44.720 all right, you can do. Jordan's done, Blake Griffin's done. 0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:47.520 All that I could teach you. Jordan's done, Blake Griffin's done. 0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:50.800 Anybody's duck. It's all. It's all just a simulation. You know. 0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:54.560 It's it's easy. So I'm excited to tee. That's being 0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:57.200 out through Harvard through Harbor. You heard the last part. 0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:03.120 It makes through Harvard. Yeah something you got tips and ship. 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:08.520 I thought you had some drugs. My young boy the 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:14.040 eighth grade. How much conscription? What we gotta do because 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.240 I'm out in my head. She went to Harvard. She 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:28.840 got a peep plug, tapty gonna get that bra that 0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:37.120 little bobby up he is closed, gonna take keep up 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:43.760 through the I'm about to take that. You got a 0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:48.200 new visiting. I'm about to work on shore. We're gonna 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.000 put the podcast, hold to go back and home for 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:55.240 two years getting my knees back. I think he's got cabbage. 0:59:55.880 --> 1:00:03.880 So you are stupid man. How is it? Uh? How 1:00:03.960 --> 1:00:05.600 has it been, I'm saying, training to getting back to 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:08.720 get to game speed? Like, how has that been? Tapping 1:00:08.720 --> 1:00:10.240 back in heavier to it? Like you said you was 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:13.120 in school and that was your your undervided focus, especially 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:15.200 with you having to baby taking care of that situation. 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:17.160 How is it back now? You're feeling a little back 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:18.840 into the game or did it ever leave or do 1:00:18.880 --> 1:00:22.120 you feel rejuvenated with it again? Yeah, it's it's it's 1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:24.560 funny because I gotta love hey, relationship for the game. 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:26.800 I always have and since I've grown up, you know, 1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:29.400 it's it's what I do. But I got a passion 1:00:29.480 --> 1:00:31.240 for a lot of other things. But I can only 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.680 get to the other things through doing this, and that's 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:35.440 what I do and as part of what I do, 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:39.000 and I love hooking, you know. But it's at times 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:40.640 where and I did, I took a step away. I 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.680 handled what I had to handle when stuff was crazy, 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.480 it was all over the place, you know. I got 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:47.920 traded from on the plane. I got traded on the 1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:51.120 plane from the Warriors to feel it. Y'all know how 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:54.400 I go. And after so long, seven eight years, I'm like, 1:00:54.480 --> 1:00:56.480 whoa this is? This is a lot, you know what 1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:59.520 I'm saying. But I'm enjoying getting back to it and 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:01.440 getting it to that routine because I think that's one 1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:03.840 thing about Hoopers is we got a routine where you 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:05.439 know how it is. We wake up on the daily 1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:07.280 and it's like, all right, we get to it and 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.160 I work in throughout the day and then you handle 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:11.840 your business at the two three pm if you ain't 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:15.360 got a game. So that's it's been. It's been. I 1:01:15.480 --> 1:01:18.600 moved to Cali recently, Okay, so I got a gym 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:20.680 right off the water, you know, right off the coast 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:22.520 that I can go work out and I love the water, 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.040 so I get to see the water every day. Is stuff. 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:27.520 So it's been about it. You got a good dass 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:29.640 trading facility. You are here in vacation mode. You know what, 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.440 open the gym doors. And that's what people don't understand 1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:34.280 a lot. And you can attest to this. It's not 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:37.240 that people don't like doing their profession in sports whatever 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:39.600 it is, but the business of sports is totally different 1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:41.680 than the outside person would ever understand like you said, 1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:45.040 you got traded on the team flight. That's just like 1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:47.400 me driving to work and mother telling me, yeah before 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:50.960 you pull up, don't like that'll fuck your whole day up, 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:54.680 like you gotta go, which I got forty eight hours 1:01:54.960 --> 1:01:58.080 to report and you might fuck around have to play. Yeah, 1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:00.720 that shit crazy to a US two. And people don't 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:02.240 understand how much they account that this thing all you 1:02:02.280 --> 1:02:03.720 get paid a lot of money. No, my whole life 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.160 is changing. I gotta move my daughter across the nation. 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:08.840 I got a fonswhere to live between practice, like you said, yeah, 1:02:08.960 --> 1:02:10.360 so let me come out here in my first game. 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:14.640 I ain't in the rotation for two weeks. Real like 1:02:14.760 --> 1:02:16.919 that shit, I can understand like that way on people. 1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:19.200 People don't understand like that performance shit is real, like 1:02:19.320 --> 1:02:22.160 you gotta perform. Yeah, yeah, No, it is what it is, 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:24.960 you know. And I think it's I understand the fans 1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:26.640 side of it. I think it's just a lot of 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:28.880 people gotta realize we're real people at the end of 1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:31.400 the day. So you know, I'm not with the whole 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:34.439 like you know everybody when and a half they time 1:02:34.520 --> 1:02:37.959 to shine on the mic and talk crazy Stephen A. Smith. 1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:41.280 We don't get to him, but you know, everybody want 1:02:41.320 --> 1:02:42.320 to put the mic in front of the face and 1:02:42.320 --> 1:02:44.280 said crazy. I'm not that type of type of person. 1:02:44.360 --> 1:02:46.240 You know, it is what it is. But I think 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:48.760 fans should realize that we were human beings at the 1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:52.040 same time, so anything regards don't be tweeting crazy stuff. 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.440 The DMS is, you know what I'm saying. I really 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:57.400 didn't understand how crazy fans was until we got to 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.440 the league. And you know, after the game they sent 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:03.640 you some crazy they say anything anything, so they'd fan 1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.280 duels all they started coming around, they started betting, and 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.320 now it's really popular. You know, six seven years ago 1:03:09.400 --> 1:03:11.120 I first came to the league, they was on that. 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:14.280 I'm like, man, now it's crazy with the whole bad 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:16.760 and I can only imagine what they say by some 1:03:16.840 --> 1:03:19.840 people walking. They got started on a Bobby Porter's rebounds. 1:03:21.040 --> 1:03:22.920 Bro I got the most hate mail I ever got 1:03:22.920 --> 1:03:25.400 in my life. It was like a parlor. I don't 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:27.720 even know how to go. But Bobby needed ten rebounds 1:03:27.760 --> 1:03:30.480 to everybody to win. So you know how Bobby got 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:33.520 the little chance everybody Bobby. Yeah, that ship came from 1:03:33.560 --> 1:03:35.960 that because nigga. He was about to win a parlor, 1:03:36.040 --> 1:03:39.080 so like he needed one more rebound, but was like 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:43.360 took him out. They like Bob, Bobby, Bob. Everybody really 1:03:43.440 --> 1:03:46.280 yelling Bobby. So Bobby standing up like they with me. 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.200 I'm like yeah, and I'm like, damn, they really love 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:50.200 this nigga. And then one of the things like they 1:03:50.280 --> 1:03:53.440 needs one more rebounds to you fucked it out and 1:03:53.560 --> 1:04:00.520 I'm like like what nah yeah nahe but like it 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:03.000 was way earlier in the game and the rebound came 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:05.000 to me, like Bobby was right there and I just 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:07.080 grabbed it and like pushed the ball to court, and 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:09.880 they was just like that could have been a fucking rebound. 1:04:10.720 --> 1:04:14.760 I could have won a thousand dollars. I'm like, yeah, 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:20.280 I just got crazy. Yeah, they'd be going crazy now. 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:23.240 So hey, listen, I got beef with niggas to this 1:04:23.360 --> 1:04:25.160 day I've never met because they sucked up a partlaf 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:28.800 But I ain't seen nobody that's out of pocket. B 1:04:29.640 --> 1:04:32.400 When I was in Minnesota, Bro, they was out of pocket. Yeah. 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.240 That's the only time you got like admitted, Yeah, I 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:37.400 got no love for Minnesota. You almost got some hate 1:04:37.400 --> 1:04:40.120 meal from me for that Cleveland steak game. Man, I 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:43.360 would have gave oh yeah, yeah, I would have cared. 1:04:43.520 --> 1:04:46.360 You gotta have no flashback. But yeah, yeah that is now. 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:50.200 But Minnesota, Nah, bro, I got one ounce of love. 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:54.360 I just got the type of Jeff t go on 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:58.160 Twitter just half. I told you that shit is so funny. 1:04:58.760 --> 1:05:00.640 The Pacers picture of you hold your face on the 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:03.360 bitch is tweeted every day by some patients. Personally, I 1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:05.040 was like, this, nigga, don't even be on Twitter and 1:05:05.080 --> 1:05:08.120 don't know how funny this is. Don't be on the crazy. 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:12.640 I literally Minnesota was like the worst experience ever. I 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:16.440 was swear the guy was already. I just cold, walk outside, 1:05:17.360 --> 1:05:23.800 make a fucking shot. Shoot, get the shoot a bit 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:29.160 like I would get the shoot. I got walking outside 1:05:29.200 --> 1:05:33.320 the warbest car. I was just like, I'll be mad 1:05:33.400 --> 1:05:37.520 as it's Cold's not crazy cold? Is hey? I'm getting 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:44.320 gas turned watching drum be like, get Cat the ball, 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:51.680 get the ball. It's crazy. Man's a fucking stupid wait. 1:05:51.760 --> 1:05:54.160 Until that, I was like, they gotta give me the 1:05:54.200 --> 1:05:57.320 fuck out of here. I'm nothing to you getting twenty 1:05:57.760 --> 1:06:00.760 three and get Cat the ball. But the guy you're 1:06:00.800 --> 1:06:03.880 talking to and I lived downtown. So the worst Like 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:06.760 I'm like yaally comes to the game, it ain't be empty. 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:09.840 What was the best city or the worst city you 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:13.480 lived in? I mean, I'm gonna keep saying saying France was, man, 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:15.320 I had the time in my life and saying France 1:06:15.400 --> 1:06:20.320 not the worst. The worst city Detroit, you know, me 1:06:20.480 --> 1:06:26.000 being from Michigan a little bit better, but probably probably Sacramento, 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:30.360 the Kings, Kings or Philly. Even my Pops was a 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:35.280 little iffy on Philly both times. The Philly like here 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:37.720 we go again. That's how they don't like shit and 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.960 Philly they don't like they you in the first quarter, 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:43.080 they don't And that's when they love you. They love you. 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:45.480 When they love you, they love you. Yeah, man, who 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:51.640 they love beside when Brett Brown was there, man feeling 1:06:51.840 --> 1:06:57.320 for sure, Will, but everybody loves Will. They tough. They's 1:06:57.360 --> 1:07:00.160 tough love and Philly love. It's tough. It's it's just 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:02.600 a it's just a hard city to playing. Like something 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:06.080 about the organization. Some some teams got that organization to 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:09.120 where it's just some rocky about them. I don't know, Damn, 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:13.560 that's crazy. I see, well, you know, I'm a Patrios fan. 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:18.120 I don't know. Minnesota, it's just a Rocky likes. It's 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.440 probably cooler. I don't know, because that was probably getting 1:07:20.480 --> 1:07:23.200 them there now, But before that it was a little spooky. 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:26.520 Yeah he was there, you know, it's like they actually 1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:28.640 it's real cool people there. But it's just like some 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:33.680 we built up high. Yeah, rookie year. So at least 1:07:33.840 --> 1:07:35.800 you had a little bit of that barely. And then 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:38.600 when we got that because Jimmy started complaining. Jimmy was like, 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:43.040 take that down. Take that down that. I was like, this, dude, crazy, Damn, 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:47.200 that's ugly. Take that down. Do y'all care about the players? 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:49.520 Take this down? I'm like, damn, did you have you 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:52.440 had the sleeve jerseys where you was in Minnesota? The 1:07:52.560 --> 1:07:56.440 NBA is nasty for that. I wanted one of them. 1:07:56.560 --> 1:08:00.560 I thought, y'all fu with them. I mean, you ain't 1:08:00.600 --> 1:08:03.919 on we with no fit, but the certain teams that had, yeah, 1:08:03.960 --> 1:08:09.600 we ain't had them with ripping bran different and you 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:12.000 got but you got in New Jersey now had the 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:19.679 sleeves all that, this would have been disgusting. Over the shoulder. 1:08:20.840 --> 1:08:22.960 The lead is wild out because I remember the Louisville Ones. 1:08:23.000 --> 1:08:25.160 When they play, I said, all these are nasty. These 1:08:25.200 --> 1:08:29.160 are these are softball uniforms. That's when they started. They 1:08:29.200 --> 1:08:33.280 had nigga v next they was out of pocket. That was, oh, 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:36.719 that's nasty. So we got to get into it. Man, obvious. 1:08:36.800 --> 1:08:38.160 You know your pops is a legend. You know what 1:08:38.160 --> 1:08:40.439 I'm saying. He had a particular Philly quote unquote a 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:42.360 legend a little bit shook and speaking about how people 1:08:42.360 --> 1:08:45.360 get on microphones to talk crazy, I think that, even 1:08:45.400 --> 1:08:48.080 though it is hilarious, some of these niggas who had 1:08:48.160 --> 1:08:49.880 podcasts while they play and have to chill out for 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.960 a second, the live updates after games be crazy because 1:08:52.960 --> 1:08:56.240 they be talking insane about games that we know really 1:08:56.280 --> 1:08:59.920 don't be matter. I fuck with it to a next 1:09:00.200 --> 1:09:01.760 but I'd like something that ship be like, all right, y'all, 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:04.200 like we got to chill out. Draymond should be funny 1:09:04.200 --> 1:09:05.880 because Draymond know how to do that shit. Pat Beb 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:07.439 be hit or miss with me, even though I with 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:10.280 Pat Beb. I think it all funny because I wish 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:11.519 I would have did it, because I would have been 1:09:11.560 --> 1:09:17.400 talking crazy in Minnesota. What I always gonna ta. I 1:09:17.439 --> 1:09:20.759 would have been on there like you. This ship's awful 1:09:20.840 --> 1:09:25.519 over here. They all passed the fucking ball. You aren't 1:09:25.560 --> 1:09:28.920 even do it respectfully. You would have been lit though, 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:30.479 you would have been lit, but they would have got you. 1:09:30.640 --> 1:09:32.680 The fuck about it? Yeah, I would. I would have 1:09:32.680 --> 1:09:36.360 been You would have got traded like you. I traded 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:39.160 like that bit. Where'd you find it? On the plane that? 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:41.680 I was complained. I was coming to the coach to complaine, like, 1:09:41.760 --> 1:09:43.360 why the fuck you taking me out last night? He 1:09:43.479 --> 1:09:47.599 was like, perfect, I need to talk. We've been waiting. 1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:50.160 I'm like, I'm like frying, what up? Man? Why are 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:52.120 you taking me out last night? Man? Gonna see your 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:54.439 t score. I scored eight in the quarter while you 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:57.840 take me out. You scored your last eight here? Then 1:09:58.280 --> 1:10:00.599 don't walk in. He ain't like me from the beginning. 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:03.639 He's like, yeah, you just got traded. I was like fuck. 1:10:04.840 --> 1:10:06.720 He's like, yeah, I did you a favor. I'm like, 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:09.080 oh shit, I probably got to the maths. I'm about 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:11.080 to go to the playoffs. Sent you back to Atlanta? 1:10:12.080 --> 1:10:15.080 What worse than that? I was like, why are you 1:10:15.160 --> 1:10:17.439 trade me there? He was like, you got a house, diret. 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:22.800 Don't you like it's motherfucker, that's crazy. It was like, cool, 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:25.479 but that's crazy. Was this the same GM that got 1:10:25.520 --> 1:10:28.160 you there? I was gonna say, there's no way that 1:10:28.240 --> 1:10:36.120 could have happened in that year. God, my Minnesota when 1:10:36.120 --> 1:10:38.560 they Minnesota kept me, I told you about that. I 1:10:38.680 --> 1:10:41.040 was a rookie and it was a one time I 1:10:41.160 --> 1:10:43.400 was sick and I'm sick. I'm like, I ain't going 1:10:43.439 --> 1:10:45.080 to practice that. You know, you gotta go get a doctor. 1:10:45.360 --> 1:10:46.880 I'm on my way to the doctor because you got 1:10:46.960 --> 1:10:49.760 to get a real excuse, like he really sick. I'm 1:10:49.840 --> 1:10:51.640 on the way to the doctor. Agent called me like, 1:10:51.960 --> 1:10:54.280 I think you're gonna get traded today. Don't go in. 1:10:54.840 --> 1:10:57.479 I might not want to go in. So I'm at 1:10:57.479 --> 1:10:59.840 the crib. I wasn't going in anyways. I'm sick. I 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.280 start calling everybody like, yo, it's the one time I've 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:04.639 been sick, the only time I'm a rookie. Na, y'all 1:11:04.680 --> 1:11:07.080 can't do me like this. They ended up dropping my 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:09.160 bags off at the front at the front and garbage 1:11:09.200 --> 1:11:11.120 bags in front of my condo build. It just dropped 1:11:11.160 --> 1:11:14.560 it off and garbage maybe a different bro. It's a 1:11:14.640 --> 1:11:18.120 brutal business and people don't understand. That's right, get as 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:20.280 much money as you can get on and like you said, 1:11:20.439 --> 1:11:22.439 the relationships, you know what I'm saying, Like, look what 1:11:22.520 --> 1:11:25.080 happened when you were in Michigan. You build a relationships 1:11:25.120 --> 1:11:27.200 everywhere you go. You build a relationships with people to 1:11:27.439 --> 1:11:28.880 like you said, once you get in bat you gotta 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:31.320 stay here because you get out. It's a strategy behind 1:11:31.400 --> 1:11:33.840 it too, Like we talked about if you can go higher, 1:11:33.960 --> 1:11:35.559 you know what I'm saying, or trying to scale out 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.040 to get you top ten or top of teen to team, 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:41.040 because it really matter if you lottery pick that difference 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:43.720 between if you're gonna that first four years or not. 1:11:44.560 --> 1:11:46.800 You could be weak. But the GM with much rather 1:11:46.960 --> 1:11:49.160 risk three years and almost being right, then wasting it 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:50.920 after one year and being wrong, because then his ass 1:11:50.960 --> 1:11:54.320 is getting the ax exactly. Yea man, so many wonderful 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:56.240 sorts before we get out of here. We got we 1:11:56.320 --> 1:12:00.640 gotta here. Man, the iconic, the iconic story Man, the 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:03.479 two one nine legend on stephen A's ass Man, Where 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.920 where the fuck did this happen? From the man, It's 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:09.880 it's a crazy story. I think it started from It's 1:12:09.920 --> 1:12:12.360 a coach with the Bucks. I forget who was the 1:12:12.439 --> 1:12:15.040 coach black? They had a black coach back then, and 1:12:15.200 --> 1:12:16.960 you know, my pops, I guess they got into it. 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:19.120 My pops, I don't care if you black, white or whatever. 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:22.320 We don't agree. We don't agree. Stephen A. Smith found 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:25.120 it different and thought that Pops, you know what was 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.519 going at him because he's black. And we can do 1:12:27.640 --> 1:12:29.920 the research and see who the coach was. But that's 1:12:30.240 --> 1:12:32.040 it ain't none of my business. You know what I'm saying, 1:12:32.160 --> 1:12:34.120 got none to do with me. But as we get 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:38.479 to the story, stephen A. Whatever happened between them happened. 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.800 My pops called me one day like a son. You 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:48.160 got a number of the TMZ from I. You know, 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:50.920 something happened. The article came by Stephen had just said, 1:12:50.920 --> 1:12:53.439 Stephen had just said something in the media, like I 1:12:53.479 --> 1:12:55.200 could find it for you. I made a couple of cars, 1:12:55.240 --> 1:12:57.760 you know, got on the number. I turned on the 1:12:57.840 --> 1:13:01.160 news TMZ Sports. It's like Big Dog asked to take 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:04.479 Stephen A. Smith to the cage, to the USC cage 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:20.080 in the rain. Hell the post got him TMC secretary. 1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:25.200 Oh wait, wait, he was gonna FaceTime. TMC called in. 1:13:26.960 --> 1:13:29.000 I don't care what he SAYD tell him me me 1:13:29.160 --> 1:13:32.599 in the cage. In the cage, yes, So I post 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:35.040 real about it. So next thing, I know, we have 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.160 a game in Houston, and we played in Houston. I'm 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:39.639 you know, I guard James Hard. I had a pretty 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:42.120 good game, and uh it was you know, Stephen had 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:44.080 noticed me afterwards, you know, and he didn't really know 1:13:44.160 --> 1:13:45.400 Glenn rops in the third. I don't know if it 1:13:45.520 --> 1:13:47.720 clicked with him throughout my whole five years in the 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:50.240 league before that. So then he come up to me 1:13:50.320 --> 1:13:53.479 in the back after the game and he was like, he's, hey, Glenn, 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:56.200 you know whatever happened between me and your pops? You know, 1:13:56.320 --> 1:13:58.840 when I see him, I'm gonna tell him that I 1:13:58.920 --> 1:14:01.840 didn't mean it was old is old. We're getting older. 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:03.400 He got a son that's trying to make it in 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:05.479 the league, and I respect that you on your grind 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:08.240 and trying to do that. And I'm looking at him like, 1:14:08.439 --> 1:14:10.720 hold on, this is the same Steven Ay that's been 1:14:10.800 --> 1:14:13.760 talking all this crazy at the all time. And I 1:14:13.840 --> 1:14:15.920 can't wait to call my pops after that. Like he 1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:18.439 just showed his card right here. That's exactly who he is. 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:21.960 You know what I'm saying, yeah, but yeah, I don't 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:25.639 like to beat that that personally. He tried to start 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:28.519 with players and how it's how it's brought about, and 1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:30.680 then whatever said it said, it's done and need to 1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:33.680 be done. But for some reason he just dragged the 1:14:33.760 --> 1:14:35.880 thing along with my pops. And it's like, man, even 1:14:35.960 --> 1:14:37.920 my pops say it was thirty years you know what 1:14:37.960 --> 1:14:40.080 I'm saying, Like, man, that was forever ago, and he 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:42.200 still want to put my name in his mouth, but 1:14:42.479 --> 1:14:44.360 Pop shut it down. Then when he said the UFC, 1:14:44.520 --> 1:14:48.280 he came and apologize quick. What's up with it? The 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:51.960 fact that he had you called TMZ, that's top two. 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:55.519 Fact that he FaceTime TNZ. I have never heard of, 1:14:57.160 --> 1:15:00.920 no interviews at all, No nothing, nobody heard from He 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:02.960 stayed itself. You know what I'm saying. And he called 1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:06.759 me like you got the number that at all places 1:15:06.840 --> 1:15:10.640 to a brother. That's why I had me weig. I 1:15:10.800 --> 1:15:16.639 was stuck like Mark Spears, like he asked, nobody said TMC. 1:15:17.280 --> 1:15:19.640 Pops will keep me around some messy motherfuckers because he 1:15:19.760 --> 1:15:21.640 know what time it is, he knows what blog is. 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.200 Pop Man, we call it straight in. We gonna not 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:25.920 beat around the bloom. I mean he's smart though he 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:28.439 can't do ESP and they's gonna filter. He said, nah, 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:32.240 who go get this message out? That motherfucker like hello, 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:34.920 he was ready for it, man, he was. They let 1:15:34.960 --> 1:15:40.719 him cussin on facetiwn with it. You ever think about 1:15:40.760 --> 1:15:43.120 how crazy how much like how many points show Pops 1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:45.960 at average in college, like playing in college, and you know, 1:15:46.240 --> 1:15:49.439 like that ship is Wow, it's even crazy my pops. 1:15:49.600 --> 1:15:51.840 So he didn't play his freshman year yea and Grace 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:54.479 and then that he had me. I was born the 1:15:54.560 --> 1:15:57.320 next year, damn. So they had me at school and 1:15:57.439 --> 1:16:00.439 gen Katie off I probably said say this, Katie was 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:03.720 like it was like, yo, your firstborn son got a 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:07.200 scholarship to for too. I could have went, you know 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:10.719 what I'm saying, damn Matt. Yeah, so that player fucked 1:16:10.760 --> 1:16:12.800 up the bag. So y'all lost in the first one. 1:16:14.560 --> 1:16:17.200 But man, it was crazy. It is crazy to look 1:16:17.240 --> 1:16:19.160 back and see like everywhere I go, you know, out 1:16:19.200 --> 1:16:23.200 here in Indiana, people know Pop's name legend bro. And 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:25.840 it's been always crazy for me to deal with as 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:27.960 growing up being a third having the same name as him, 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:30.200 and I used to hate it growing up. But you know, 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:31.880 I hit a certain age al I was like, WHOA, 1:16:31.960 --> 1:16:33.800 this could actually help me, you know what I'm saying. 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:36.559 I started to really my pop's cool. Like I started 1:16:36.600 --> 1:16:38.280 to really see how cool my pops was. We do 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.600 the same thing. I started to really take it for 1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:43.200 what it was worth. But I never like sometimes I 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:45.839 go back and pop it. In his old games from Purdue, 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:48.840 he dunked on greg osan tag. It's crazy to think 1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:51.880 about number one player in the you know, college basketball 1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:54.400 back then and a million and all of that stuff 1:16:54.520 --> 1:16:56.560 is It's crazy, bro, The average that many points in 1:16:56.600 --> 1:16:58.639 college is crazy. I don't know why that nigga always 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:01.640 just looks super big on and he is. Then my 1:17:01.720 --> 1:17:04.240 brother is because he's six nine like this, Yeah, my 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:06.920 brothers six one and just like this, I just got 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:09.800 my at his height. Yeah, yeah, it's a difference. I 1:17:09.840 --> 1:17:11.240 gotta ask you know what I'm saying. I know it's 1:17:11.240 --> 1:17:12.800 a little bit of an a subscripency, you know what 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:14.800 I'm saying. Whence I get that one on one on 1:17:14.960 --> 1:17:16.680 or that that ever happened, I know what happened to. 1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:18.920 Somebody asked me this the other day and they was like, Yo, 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:20.759 when was the first time that you beat your pops 1:17:20.800 --> 1:17:22.600 one on one, and I was like, I think it 1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:25.680 was probably around middle school, and we would go out 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:27.439 there in the summer with him for two weeks, and 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:30.320 so we stripped him up. We in the gym and 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:32.360 I beat it was a game point, and I'm running 1:17:32.360 --> 1:17:33.960 around the circles trying to get Pops tired. That's how 1:17:34.000 --> 1:17:35.920 I figured out I could beat him. I'm running around 1:17:35.960 --> 1:17:48.360 circles like tea but the baby fucking circus. So finally 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:50.400 I hit game. When it shot him, I ran out 1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:55.479 the gym and I never played him, saying I wouldn't. Yeah, man, 1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:57.600 I beat him. That was probably like eighth grade, and 1:17:57.680 --> 1:18:00.200 I never played him again. So I couldn't get him 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.400 to eighth grade though. I mean, sure you got him 1:18:02.400 --> 1:18:04.120 a grade that's up. But still if we do a 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:07.200 shooting competition like that, he is still he is still 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:11.639 give me on one, like he still got his package. Nigga, 1:18:11.720 --> 1:18:15.200 that big bro moving like that. But he was really unguardable. 1:18:15.680 --> 1:18:18.800 Swear to god, damn, that's crazy. Like you said, you 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:21.320 got him in eighth grade. Have you got him in 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.800 two k yet? Nah? Nah? He a legend ed in 1:18:26.040 --> 1:18:29.400 He really cold. Yeah, he played two K more than 1:18:29.439 --> 1:18:31.120 me and I played two K. You're ducking that smoke. 1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:34.400 I ain't never ducking ducking that smoke ducking, but his 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:37.559 probably played two K. That's hard. And at that time 1:18:37.560 --> 1:18:39.160 I wasn't playing two K when I lived in the 1:18:39.240 --> 1:18:42.560 Linna and he was owning you won't play. I'm like, 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:49.000 he got us our first PlayStation, man, my brother, and 1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:51.400 that's how we've been. You know, either somebody go Xbox 1:18:51.479 --> 1:18:54.120 or PlayStation growing up, and then we went straight PlayStation. 1:18:54.160 --> 1:18:56.559 I never forget he walked in PlayStation. We could never 1:18:56.640 --> 1:18:59.040 be him. And that's how he just left it at that. 1:18:59.240 --> 1:19:00.880 You gotta keep some of your kids, like you know 1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:04.680 what you know, you gotta have some of your kids like, 1:19:04.720 --> 1:19:06.360 I don't care what you do. You're not gonna suck 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:08.560 me in this. I don't think my dad grab me 1:19:08.600 --> 1:19:11.479 and nothing like that. I don't put it up. You 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:13.280 better than me at pools, better than me at pool. 1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:16.360 He's better than you at golf too, Bronig golf. But 1:19:16.479 --> 1:19:21.120 you went out there. You're right, I could be better 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:23.040 than if I startin't wait till that day to come 1:19:23.080 --> 1:19:30.000 on the show. Crazy Oh many first and four bouts man, 1:19:30.200 --> 1:19:33.800 we gotta say congratulations on your graduation. Oh yeah, go ahead, 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:37.040 take off, Like what's that when you made to the league. 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:40.000 What's that league moment for you? Like off the court, 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:42.639 like we you know, everybody go out that first time. 1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:44.200 He'd be like, damn, I really in the league because 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:46.360 that dude just spend fifty thousand dollars, you know what 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:49.280 I mean. Y'all was in Minnesota, so y'all was young, 1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:52.679 So like, did y'all have a moment like that? Man? Well, 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:54.519 first I was a moment. I think it was my 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:57.000 fourth year and I was playing with the Pistons and 1:19:57.200 --> 1:19:59.920 b G. Blake Griffin. Then I get to my rookie 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:03.400 but BG, we was We all went out to the club, 1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:05.120 you know, everybody on the team. We was out when 1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:07.160 I forgot what game it was. We won, We're feeling good, 1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:09.479 and Blake like, yeah, come out, we're gonna go here. 1:20:09.800 --> 1:20:12.560 So we all go. BG ain't never show up. So 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:15.080 we all in the locker room the next day, everybody tying, 1:20:15.160 --> 1:20:18.960 they shoot like looking around and Nigga like, do he know, man, 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:23.360 we ran up the bill so bad that day, lighting up, 1:20:23.439 --> 1:20:28.000 bottle lighting up, bottle lighting up, just go ball, coming down, 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:32.040 full of money everything. Everything. I forgot where we was. 1:20:32.960 --> 1:20:34.800 Y'all was clowning. I forgot what we was. But we 1:20:34.920 --> 1:20:37.040 came back to Detroit and we was in practice the 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:39.000 next day and we looked around in the locker room 1:20:39.040 --> 1:20:40.639 and I was just looking at me. He said next 1:20:40.680 --> 1:20:42.719 to me, I'm looking at him like, and he looked 1:20:42.760 --> 1:20:48.080 like forgot looking at you know, you're talking. And everybody 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:50.680 was like nothing, don't worry about it. Ain't nobody ever 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:52.320 say nothing to him. It's probably the first time you 1:20:52.400 --> 1:20:58.880 gonna find out him dollar Bill was just him spade. 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:00.840 Everything was on him. You know, you played with a 1:21:00.880 --> 1:21:03.680 good vent like that, come to the club. You know 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:05.839 he had his card or whatever. Now in the whole situation, 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:09.600 that's fun. We didn't have to worry about nothing. I 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.160 ain't get one of them. He gotta he got a 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:16.960 unbelievable bag for that. Yeah, Mo Williams. Though, he used 1:21:17.000 --> 1:21:19.320 to give me his per diem every flight. He was 1:21:19.360 --> 1:21:21.439 second round, so he knew it. It was like and 1:21:21.520 --> 1:21:22.880 it was like a hundred, it was like one hundred 1:21:22.880 --> 1:21:24.840 and twenty five or whatever it was. But for him 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:26.360 to give that to me every flight, I was like 1:21:28.000 --> 1:21:30.960 I'm like whoa like this per deem like whoa every 1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:33.280 flight and you know we're going to La Trips two 1:21:33.320 --> 1:21:36.400 weeks too. It's like two man in a little bag. 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:42.120 We get every time every flight, Williams shout to my 1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:44.920 Williams never get. He came to Baker's life and gave 1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:53.439 us fifty five man. Yeah, that's the team. Yes. I 1:21:53.479 --> 1:21:56.360 could not believe it. I was just like, what the fuck? 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:58.800 Fifty five? It was random two, It was a week 1:21:58.920 --> 1:22:03.880 night picking. It was the craziest shit. I remember that video. 1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:07.479 He was and probably the last story I got for y'all. 1:22:08.200 --> 1:22:10.639 K D. I remember I got invited to the KD camp. 1:22:10.760 --> 1:22:12.280 As in high school, you wanted to make it as 1:22:12.320 --> 1:22:16.400 a wing. So I'm like, I think I faced him 1:22:16.439 --> 1:22:18.280 and everybody was scared to guard him. And you see 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:20.519 k D. He's seven foot, he's skinny as hell. I'm like, 1:22:20.960 --> 1:22:22.960 I can lock him up. You know, I'm nineteen. I'm like, man, 1:22:23.000 --> 1:22:25.759 I'm pushing him over because back that time, going into Michigan, 1:22:25.800 --> 1:22:29.120 I was like, man, KAD came out there and hit 1:22:29.160 --> 1:22:31.080 me with like a like a stiff arm lay up. 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:33.560 Threw me back so bad. In high school, I was 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:36.080 as a seer, I'm like, nah, it's grown man strength. 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:38.519 So I'm messaging him on Twitter and was like, yeah, 1:22:38.520 --> 1:22:40.160 I'm gonna see you in the league. And you know, 1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:41.600 I still got to tweet to this day, but he 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:43.720 ended up to tweet me back on DM like I 1:22:43.800 --> 1:22:46.160 see you at the top, bro, And to that day, 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:48.840 I matched up against him and with the Warriors, and 1:22:48.920 --> 1:22:51.479 he came at my neck three or four times straight. 1:22:52.160 --> 1:22:54.840 I'm like, Yo, that's probably the toughest matchup that I 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.000 ever had. Was k D seven foot dribble shoot right 1:22:58.080 --> 1:23:00.600 over you and shit, you got you gotta braun, you 1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:03.960 gotta said. He was that negative. He's just like everybody Christmas, Bro. 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:07.120 I don't even feel no way, how was gonna happen? 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:09.639 Who liked the least expected person that you was hard 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:12.519 like you had to guard. Nobody would think like he 1:23:12.920 --> 1:23:15.639 really liked that. We know everybody in the league is good. 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:20.640 Oh well, Luca, we know he liked that. Yeah. You 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:23.280 know then Luca, a couple of years ago, we didn't 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:25.160 know everything about his game. We just knew he was 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:28.200 coming from you know, overseas. Oh yeah, he started hitting 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.200 with the slow to quick and you know some of 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.600 them passed the ball and go cut off of it, 1:23:32.720 --> 1:23:34.880 some of the like euro League stuff. I was like, yo, 1:23:35.280 --> 1:23:37.920 he cold. It's hard to because he just looked like 1:23:38.000 --> 1:23:40.040 he ain't about to do some of that stuff. But 1:23:40.560 --> 1:23:45.439 shifty Aarona flollow my rookie year. Yes, they gassed me 1:23:45.600 --> 1:23:47.559 up to come into the game. I had. I hadn't 1:23:47.600 --> 1:23:49.639 got in the game like that yet. And I speak 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.439 Flip Saunders had. He had just got sick, a Pete 1:23:53.439 --> 1:23:56.599 flip and he had just got sick. And I think 1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:02.280 Sam sam Mitchell adventual the cover took over. He gave 1:24:02.320 --> 1:24:04.200 me my shot. He was saying, was crazy as hell. 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:06.120 He used to make you do all type of drills 1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:09.160 fifty times, yelling at you. Yeah, I get in the 1:24:09.200 --> 1:24:11.599 game myself. And he was gassing me up all morning 1:24:12.280 --> 1:24:15.040 and fo hit three straight, three straight corner threes on me, 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:19.120 fading away like Joe. You know, he he was cold. 1:24:20.040 --> 1:24:22.680 Used to hate on that nigga still he thought he 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.360 was COVID man. He hit me with all that work 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:27.880 that day. I was like, yo, he really liked that 1:24:28.600 --> 1:24:33.880 b he was. He was like that time, so that 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:35.800 probably that was probably the guy. I was like, yo, 1:24:36.000 --> 1:24:38.479 like all right, I know he was like that, I'm ahead, 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:40.880 but he always averaged nineteen point six points a game 1:24:40.920 --> 1:24:42.760 no matter where he was at. I told you he 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:44.880 used to hit on. I'm like, bro, he's really liked that. Bro, 1:24:45.000 --> 1:24:50.040 he could hold cooked me like that. Damn uh no 1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:52.840 the Colo what nigga that he cooked me one game? 1:24:53.080 --> 1:24:56.320 He was for the Spurs, who was like I remember 1:24:56.479 --> 1:24:59.519 talking about he bore number twenty five and never forget 1:24:59.560 --> 1:25:01.479 he was number twenty five, And I thought this nigga 1:25:01.560 --> 1:25:05.639 was trash boy. He was terrible. It was going to work. 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:08.880 What was this? It's probably like my fourth third or 1:25:08.880 --> 1:25:12.200 fourth fild was that la? He gave you work? I 1:25:12.320 --> 1:25:14.719 just didn't respect him like I was waiting for Tony Parker. 1:25:14.760 --> 1:25:19.519 I'm like, wow, and this nigga was killing It's my time. Yeah, 1:25:19.720 --> 1:25:21.760 he was going to work. I seen you with some 1:25:21.840 --> 1:25:24.880 sneaky dunks, though, What was your probably favorite dunk that 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:29.400 she what was going to because I always wanted I 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:32.960 was running through d on somebody. Now my favorite dunk. 1:25:33.080 --> 1:25:36.960 I dunked on Ray Allen. It what happened? Yeah? I 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:39.559 only like that because KG was just talking so bad 1:25:39.680 --> 1:25:41.960 to me, and when I dunked on him like bitch. 1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:49.160 Then I earbolt the game winner. KG followed me to 1:25:49.280 --> 1:25:51.760 the tunnel. Nigga, don't ever fu with the basketball guy 1:25:52.600 --> 1:25:56.200 like shit, I'm trying to run. I try to run 1:25:56.240 --> 1:25:58.880 to the back of the tunnel like my fat y'all Joe, 1:25:59.040 --> 1:26:02.960 like everybody mad at me to you just hear KG 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:14.400 sniggle said sniggah. Hey, Airing was so crazy. Figured out 1:26:14.720 --> 1:26:22.640 that man out the saddest sport wouldn't shit, don't the 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:24.519 part respect you? And then we played him in the 1:26:24.520 --> 1:26:26.920 playoffs that year and he wouldn't say my name, like 1:26:26.960 --> 1:26:28.920 he wouldn't acknowledge me, like you know how you gonna 1:26:28.920 --> 1:26:31.320 shake Nigga's hand before the game. I'm like, yo, what up? 1:26:31.800 --> 1:26:34.479 You know? Round though? Cool niggas. I want to go 1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:37.640 reach for him that niggas is sporting started pacing. I'm like, 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:40.240 fuck you. So the first game I had a really 1:26:40.320 --> 1:26:45.240 good game and the media was like, yeah, the t guy, 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:47.400 he was really getting in the lane, you know, penetrate. 1:26:47.720 --> 1:26:52.080 He's like who who? I don't know what you're talking about. 1:26:52.720 --> 1:26:56.040 That nigg gonna do me Like I fuck with ticket, 1:26:56.240 --> 1:26:58.840 Like why you're doing me like that? Who? And then 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:01.800 when we played with much. He finally played with him. 1:27:01.840 --> 1:27:03.800 He finally told me like, yeah, I focused your brotherly. 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:07.360 Could I ever wanted to hear? Yeah, that nigga just 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:13.880 like you, nigga. That nigga barked at me in the game. 1:27:14.280 --> 1:27:17.519 They got on all fours and bark, what's what we 1:27:17.760 --> 1:27:20.760 jump in the ball nigga? And he got like I 1:27:20.880 --> 1:27:22.400 was bringing the rock up, nigga, And it was like 1:27:22.400 --> 1:27:24.000 about the our horse was about to run up and 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:26.320 set the screen. He just didn't follow out down and 1:27:26.680 --> 1:27:30.080 just a four start barking. I'm like, man, who is 1:27:30.200 --> 1:27:33.800 this nigga? Brow? First time I met him, he was 1:27:33.880 --> 1:27:36.599 in the dark, complete dark, like the gym. It's yelling, 1:27:36.720 --> 1:27:39.240 same thing, just yelling, and they seen me. He's like dog. 1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:42.400 Because that's what caught my I've been waiting to talk 1:27:42.479 --> 1:27:47.719 to you. Man. You got chills first as a rookie 1:27:48.960 --> 1:27:50.760 say nothing because at that time it was on the 1:27:50.800 --> 1:27:53.400 news like y'all he's throwing rookie's phones and the toilet. 1:27:53.680 --> 1:27:55.400 So I asked the straight up, like yo, Me and 1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:58.240 Zach asked him like exact, Lavine were like yo, throwing 1:27:58.280 --> 1:28:01.479 the phones in the toilets were cool? You know what 1:28:01.520 --> 1:28:05.040 I'm saying that's when he was back mentoring up there 1:28:05.080 --> 1:28:07.680 on that he was like helping with cats. That's crazy. Yeah, 1:28:08.040 --> 1:28:11.040 the kids, you luck you down this house. Yep. His 1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:13.360 last year, yep, I know that he was more like 1:28:13.400 --> 1:28:18.559 a pro officer. Yeah, damn crazy crazy, that's crazy. Man. 1:28:18.840 --> 1:28:23.000 We appreciate you sliding once again. Congratulations man, under graduation. 1:28:23.080 --> 1:28:24.640 Looking forward. So you get back on the court. Man, 1:28:24.640 --> 1:28:28.120 I'm thinking this rehab popping absolutely, man. Just whatever you do, 1:28:28.200 --> 1:28:29.880 just don't go back to the pastures. Man. We want 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:32.040 you to thrive. Man. Get away from the pass and 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:34.800 get away from Minnesota. Man, you don't go to the 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:39.840 crib man like that. I want the best option, always open, 1:28:40.120 --> 1:28:46.760 I keep it. Oh no, I'm something I don't forget. 1:28:47.800 --> 1:28:50.280 Always open. We'll see what happened, man, I'm excited to 1:28:50.360 --> 1:28:53.040 get back to it though. But show like share, subscribe, 1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:54.920 all that good ship. We'll see y'all next time.