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Speaker 1: fly all my life, all my life, Frank fall when

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Speaker 1: the summer. I been getting twenty podcast. I'm the host

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Speaker 1: of My name is DJ Wells. To my far left,

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Speaker 1: resident chef Bishop Grant, leave, my boy be here. How

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Speaker 1: you what? What's good? So you got the good shoes

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Speaker 1: on to night man? When the guests come, you put

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Speaker 1: the guests in here? Yeah? Flip flop for y'all. What

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Speaker 1: the dick to my meteor? Right? My boy, young tea

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Speaker 1: not up? How you what sho bro by the doors again? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had these was about the garage door. Oh y'all

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Speaker 1: into like a thing. Yeah about it? About it though?

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Speaker 1: Last when I leave to my media left. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We got a guest. Love having guests,

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Speaker 1: especially in the end of kids Midwest kids in the building.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Hooper philanthropists found. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about all these things with my dad. G R three.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling, man? Appreciate you pull it up

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Speaker 1: to five twenty, My boy, appreciate y'all. Appreciate y'all having me.

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Speaker 1: I've seen what y'all doing. I have to check in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I know y'all got a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a relationship going on. But before we

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Speaker 1: real bear cameraman going through some stuff. That's why the sponsorship. See,

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Speaker 1: if you put a sponsorship, we can get this laptop

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Speaker 1: popping real nice, get this table going and our cameraman

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Speaker 1: behind the lands doing this thing. But before we get

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Speaker 1: into today's episode, I gotta talk to you. Know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't to five twenty door mars. This

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Speaker 1: marsh Matten is going on. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You know you look you were a little bit farther

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Speaker 1: ask you, know what I'm saying, a biased question. Do

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, Michigan fans, No, y'all

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that. But Dad, it was a

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Speaker 1: throws changed the game? How shitty or like salt two

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Speaker 1: because Trade just had to hit that shot against Kansas before,

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Speaker 1: I think or two games before, so I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Monday night, quit playing with us. So what I hope

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Speaker 1: Shout out to nail money. We've been on that type

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Speaker 1: know your origin man, Like how was it to grow up?

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Speaker 1: that you can remember you us Muhammed was twenty two.

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Speaker 1: happens nowhere else. We came to campus. Man, my mama

422
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: dropped me off and I was like, man, where am

423
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: i a? You know what I'm saying. I was like,

424
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: it was me and mitching the doing. It was he

425
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: was my roommate, Carros and Spike was over here and

426
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: Nick and I was like, man, it's all three of

427
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: us in the doing right in the hallway next to

428
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: each other. I'm like, man, we was having a good time.

429
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: That's why we came into practice. Start smacking them coaches like, yeah,

430
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 1: we gotta switch it up. They're gonna start nah they

431
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 1: just I mean, of course, shout out to your coach,

432
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: but at the same something, shout out to them bro,

433
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: because that don't happen. Yeah, so where they go to

434
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: the coach and not Man, fuck these little niggas many

435
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: not taking nah yea, they all got real good job.

436
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: Josh bartle thing is just got promoted with the Sun. Yeah.

437
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: Carmen bro he was one of them seniors. Yeah, so yeah, man,

438
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: they doing good things. They live. It was always smart.

439
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: It was another story too. We was the first one

440
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: to have them slogans on your shirt. And we got

441
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: to the to the final four and we had we owned.

442
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 1: So we was like, yeah, we come in the court

443
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: and we switched on the light switch. We own. We

444
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: turned on Yeah, and we was the first ones with

445
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: the slogan Adidas start selling them. Was we created this

446
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,239
Speaker 1: by ourself. We went and printed them the team win

447
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: and printing them and we was just we were the

448
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: only ones that had them. Did it. The next game,

449
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: March madness came out at the whole we own slogan.

450
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: We ain't selling none of that money and getting nothing.

451
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: All of them seens was business students and everything. You know,

452
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 1: so we know what's going on. We see thirteen like

453
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: it's over with think about to make millions off this ship.

454
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: We ain't get nothing. Damn bro Bro, they millionaires now

455
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: if they would have did that. Tre Burke National Players

456
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: year millionaire. I mean obviously he made to the league,

457
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: but cold was trade Burking Colors bro. I mean we

458
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: know because we watched it. But you you know what

459
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you rocked with him. So what was he luck?

460
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: I personally ain't no trade. When I pulled up, I know,

461
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, a little dude from Ohio. You know, I'm

462
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: like little light skin du he got tattoos, you know,

463
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: corn rolls or you know, I'm like, man, who is

464
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: this kid started he started hooping. We called him like AI,

465
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: he's just cold with it, you know, justic with the ball.

466
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: And back then, you know, you get to the league.

467
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: You know, people taller and back in college. Man, he

468
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: used to get all his shit off. He was cold.

469
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: But to see a player like that National Player of

470
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: the Year it was Denar Robinson at that time in

471
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: Michigan and Shade Burke. You couldn't go to the cafeteria,

472
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: you couldn't go to Windy's if one of them was

473
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: over there. It was like, yeah, it's a rap that

474
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: I knew he had a bit. That's why I asked

475
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: you about it. But I mean, shout out to everybody else,

476
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: but I knew he was like a big deal. He

477
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: was a nigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot Nar Robinson

478
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: was like that. He had it cracking damn both of

479
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: them on imagine that, and that's so crazy. We talk

480
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: about the nil money, like, especially at fucking Michigan. Niggas

481
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,160
Speaker 1: be hating no dual to me. But I understand I'm

482
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 1: saying Nigazaga too. But I'm making way more brand living

483
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: on campus than I would pooping in the league. It's

484
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: a second round pig that changes everything. Hell yeah, so

485
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you said, unfortunately, we

486
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: talked about what happened, but I wasn't making it to

487
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: the final four because like a lot of people don't

488
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: get to experience that running ha tournament, Like what's that feeling? Like?

489
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: That's probably like probably a part of paying like the

490
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: best tournament in the world, Okay, because it's not like

491
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, No, Nah, it's crazy. It's fans from

492
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: everywhere obviously showing up National Championship game, playing in front

493
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 1: of seventy five thousand at the Georgia Dome. I'm in

494
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: warm ups almost air ball my first shot because everybody

495
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: looked like ants in the background. You know what I'm saying,

496
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: I ain't never experienced that playing on the court. Everybody

497
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: else looked like ants. You know what I'm saying. It's

498
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: usually the other way around. Looking at you so I'm like,

499
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: you threw off my whole you know what I'm saying,

500
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: my shot. But you get to the final four, you

501
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: get all the fresh gear. You know, whoever, whatever team, whatever,

502
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: whoever spots you're seeing, you all that pack of all

503
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: a good gear. The plane is different, you know what

504
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is different, pert DM different, everything different. You

505
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: get to that final four. That's hard. But I'll never

506
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: forget coming back from the championship. We had all the

507
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: fans that was waiting on us as soon as we

508
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: had lost, though, but all the fans was there afterwards,

509
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: and it's like winning the championship when you get back

510
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: and it's all the students just there, like one hundred

511
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: thousand people just in the in the streets. So imagine that.

512
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,479
Speaker 1: Damn my teammates spiked spike all break. He tweeted Kate

513
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: up there and when they took national championship, so he

514
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: got back. He was the man on captives. Yeah, all

515
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: the little chicks, ye, Trey Burke, because that's the trade

516
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: was in foul trouble. We had seventeen as the backup

517
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: point guard. Remember who he tweeted k up there afterward?

518
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: Was the man I was I was at the crib

519
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: shitty because I was like, all right, Trey Breaker, foul trouble.

520
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, who, what the fuck is this little white

521
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: dude killing us? He was going nuts in the first half.

522
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: I was pissed. I'm looking at Russ Smith like, if

523
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: you don't wipe the fuck up? He one nine yep,

524
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: crown point yep, ye, running rapid. All right. So you

525
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: know you kind of like what you're going into the

526
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: draft situation. You know what I'm saying, You had a

527
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: chance to leave earlier than you even expected for school.

528
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: This tell us about that process of how you like,

529
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, that summer going into your sophomore year you

530
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh damn, I could have been his

531
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: And then like I'm going back to school. How was

532
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: that process for you thinking that out? And then when

533
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: did you decide all right, I'm gonna go ahead and bounce. Yeah.

534
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't really thinking about it when I

535
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: when I first got to Michigan, I was just trying

536
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: to I was trying to go there and be on

537
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: the team, you know, not be a role player. I

538
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: was obviously trying to start, but I didn't expect for

539
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: things to start moving like that. We made to national championship.

540
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: We lost. Next day, they like, yo, you leaving or not?

541
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's the option, Like it's

542
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: the next morning when you wake up in the hotel.

543
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: It like we're gonna leave or we're not, you know.

544
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: And I hadn't discussed it with my family nothing. I

545
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: remember talking to Pops and I think I'm eighteen nineteen

546
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: at the time, and he looked at me and he

547
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think he ready yet. And I

548
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: was like, I had to respect that, because this is Pops.

549
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: He's been at that level or whatever. And back then

550
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: for me, I ain't know if I would have knew

551
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: what I knew now, we would have had a discussed

552
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: me off, because you know, you know how we talk.

553
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, like the difference between going top ten and

554
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: going I went forty second round, So the difference between

555
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: that right there is four years then they're man, you know,

556
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: nice bread locked in, So yeah, I get second round Minnesota.

557
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I ended up Wiggins was that's when the whole Lebron

558
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: trade went down. Wiggins came to Minnesota and me and

559
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: Lavine got drafted to Minnesota to two. So I was

560
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: the third or fourth wing on that on that spot,

561
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: they had to let me go and then I had

562
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: to make the team. Uh, it's the Sixers picked me

563
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: up and through the way versus I made the Sixers team,

564
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: and then my whole career was just like like that.

565
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: And it could have been different. Off the top team.

566
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: It would have been totally different because you're given a

567
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: bigger opportunity when you picked ten. Even like if he

568
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: went to camp, he would have went to camp with

569
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: Minnesota and he killed Levine because Lavigne wasn't good his

570
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: first year. He was, but you killed. It's like, okay,

571
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: you're killing him, but he ain't about to play. We

572
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: gotta give him a chance. Eight. So it's like, but

573
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he went back to school. Yeah, yeah,

574
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: I had that decision to go back and go ahead. No,

575
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: I was just I was saying, well, Bro. I was like,

576
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: well shit, Bro, Like I told you, Bro. Bro must

577
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: have had that thing back trying to let go. Yeah, yeah,

578
00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: that grip o. Life is good. Like you said, you'll

579
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: come home a little after a loss. I couldn't imagine

580
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: the day to day he was probably living. Man. Yeah,

581
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: I really wasn't. I wasn't even thinking like that, like

582
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: all right, we're going top ten. Yeah, we out of here.

583
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking more like, all right, I'm

584
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: trying to line up what's best for me. Pop say,

585
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, I ain't ready. I'm trying to line up.

586
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna go back next year and kill

587
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: I come back to Michigan. I'm supposed to be playing

588
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: the three. Blin still got me at the three and

589
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: the four. You know what I'm saying. I look up,

590
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gard Stephen Adams. One game, I'm I'm like, yo, nah,

591
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: this ain't what I sorry two. You know how college

592
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: coaches do you know you when you now you going

593
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: back or whatever? They got you in the bag, They're like, okay,

594
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: now we're gonna get our plans straight. Yea. So it's

595
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: crazy how the game work, you know what I'm saying.

596
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: And you and George was talking about that. But you know,

597
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: as I got older, I learned how to understood how

598
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: you got to play the game. As you become a professional,

599
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: things changed and you gotta let certain things go to

600
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, that's alcohol before we move home, and you

601
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: got to talk about that. Steven Adams mashup I just

602
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta go on the chill, but man, I remember,

603
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: keep your own bro. He kept me on. Bro, it's

604
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: a free throw line. Box out of pocket. You know,

605
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to box out Steven Adams on a bro.

606
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: I turned around and go like this, you know I

607
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: I turned around and go like this. It was that

608
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: he was going the strongest in the world broers as

609
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: a joke. Bro. Nah, yeah, for real, no matter who,

610
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: he's too strong. Bro. What's crazy is we was in

611
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: a bubble and Steven he just plays ukuleles. He's just

612
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: a chill He cool, cool dude, he got that court man.

613
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: He's strongest. Life is peace. Who with Steven Adams in

614
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: any aspect of life? Bro? He got eighteen brothers and

615
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: sisters and they all be That's crazy. He didn't got

616
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: beat up there. He don't care about nothing. The league's way.

617
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: He moved. That's crazy. Beat my wife stretch. Yeah, that's why.

618
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: That's why I'd understanding college players. Now that the portals open,

619
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: they'd be like, oh, why is everybody jumping in the

620
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: portal because y'all don't know would be going on from

621
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: year to year. Bro, People gotta make the best decisions

622
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: for them as players. Coaches can leave with no penalty.

623
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: But y'all be tripping with the kid. Make a good

624
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: decision for him if you have an issue with that

625
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: that you like. They said tournament because right now every

626
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: team is good right now is because of transfers. Shut

627
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 1: the fuck up. So, like you said, your first year

628
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: in the league, he was in Minnesota. Like, that's crazy

629
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: because when you think about all those guys you're talking

630
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: about now, they are all the different situations right now.

631
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Did we all think the Lavigne was gonna be close

632
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: to better than Wiggins? I knew he was talented. You're

633
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: smoking earlier. I'll give you a props. You didn't say

634
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: that earlier. I always thought he was nice, but I

635
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna be as cold as Wig was.

636
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: I always thought Wig was colde But that had to

637
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: be the highest jumping team in the league. Bro. Yeah, yeah,

638
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: y'alla one team. Yeah, y'all won't win it, ship, but

639
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: I have to practice. We was having a crazy Look, oh,

640
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: y'all fucking championship ship. You gotta jacket? Would we wouldn't

641
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: do it, but shit, that's scared. That's crazy. But me

642
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: and Zach because we was drafted together, so we was

643
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: just just home. That was the homie man. We used

644
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: to I used to take water to his crib because

645
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: I remember he wouldn't even drink no water. Now we

646
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: would go to restaurant, he just fries milkshake. So I'm like,

647
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: you know, go back to the story with Yeah, man,

648
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: you gotta do this. You know at nineteen, you know,

649
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell him. So we would just go

650
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: back to the crib and play video games the whole day,

651
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: hit the gym at night, and Jack was like that

652
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: he was a dog. And I knew Zach was gonna

653
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 1: be nice, just the fact that he had that at him.

654
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: But to go back to what we were talking about,

655
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: Trey Burke was that way. And when you had asked,

656
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: when y'all asked me about Tray, Tray set the tone.

657
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: And I was already getting up from high school like that.

658
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Tray set the tone for me saying in the gym

659
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: at night, Tray of being in the gym to three am. Damn. Yeah.

660
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: We would order to you know, the little meal cars

661
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: that you get in school. We ordered the meal cards,

662
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: the pizza or whatever we get for free to the arena,

663
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: and we like, yeah, drop it off here and we

664
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: eat go to play video games. Were right back out

665
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: there at three am, because you know we're in the dorm.

666
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody trying to stay in the B line when

667
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: let us stay in the apartment. So we liked in

668
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: the dorms. We might as well stay in the gym

669
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: the whole the whole night. We was in there all night.

670
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: And that's where I got that from. That's crazy. Did

671
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: you when you was at White used just working out

672
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: with the team. We usually all I lived in the

673
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: gym and college I didn't start. I took basketball series

674
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: and I got the couliners from high school and give

675
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: a fuck. But when I got to college, I lived

676
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: in the gym. It was nothing to do it wait

677
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: for us. So I shot two thousand shots to day,

678
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: me and this dude named Gary Clark. That's crazy. Yeah,

679
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: that's all we did. I literally I never went out

680
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: for I never went to I went to two parties

681
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: in my whole time. I wait for us. Damn. Yeah,

682
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: unless we went to a club after again, went to

683
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: the End club like twice or something like that. But

684
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: I never went out, Like, I didn't even talk. I

685
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: walked around with my headphones one talk to two people

686
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: James Johnson, gar anybody awake forward nigga. It was probably weird,

687
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: like I ain't speaking nobody football niggas, but that was

688
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: just me. That's how it talks. You was when when

689
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: we first met, because I ain't no tea back then.

690
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm from Gary and you know y'all from ye y'all

691
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: from down here. So I'm like, man, I ain't know you,

692
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, so I had to introduce myself like I

693
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: ain't know what. People don't mess with me or not

694
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: because I'm like, man, I'm from the g and he

695
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: down here and he's like, nah, what up to you?

696
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: I know you're Pots from back in the Egg, you know. Yeah,

697
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: you know you have to barber shop blacks Pots stay

698
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: in the Egg. So we were just shopping up then.

699
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: But I was like, nah, bro, ain't gonna he ain't

700
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: gonna mess with nobody on the team. Just gonna stay

701
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: to yourself. That's usually I am. But I was like, yeah,

702
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: off top many, Yeah that's crazy because you think about

703
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: it like that sounds like real casual that you'all just

704
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: saying that ship. But that's really incredible niggas really like

705
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: living in the gym, like you have to be that

706
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: deady need to separate yourself in the times and situations.

707
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: But it's funny as hell just because you know what

708
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: your demeanor you act like that makes so much since

709
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: it's just a brain for that ship. Also, you know

710
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you gotta you gotta represent from the

711
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: two one nine right now, we got some things going

712
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: on because the outside world disrespects Indiana. Y'all gotta claim

713
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: to any animals, bro, we gotta we gotta trace they

714
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: they zip code and make sure that they're not from

715
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the three one seven. But we're gonna put them on

716
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: the two one nine until I get the shit shorted

717
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: out because I get tired of when we go places

718
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: to the people, we say any animals. Yeah, I want

719
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, love to two one nine,

720
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: but I need you to speak to your people. You're

721
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: gonna have to get to the bottom of that. I'm

722
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: putting that on y'all. I'm not accepting that no more,

723
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: put put them in one. You know what I'm saying,

724
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: marrible that got space with the niggas whole bart. I'm saying,

725
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: you'll can throw them off at whole bart but you

726
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta take care of them, bro, not bro.

727
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: That's funniest hell man. And so like you know what

728
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you make it into the league. Now as

729
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: your relationship grows with your pops, I mean, not to

730
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: grow obviously it's so dad, but like it's just different

731
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: talk now, all right, you grow, you got your own bread.

732
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: You in the league. It's a conversations changer. Yeah, obviously

733
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: he's still got you. But how did those conversations evolve? Yeah,

734
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean throughout the years, they've just been evolving. I

735
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: mean finance talking, we talk about money. A lot of

736
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: people don't know. My pops was the first one to

737
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: ask for a hundred million dollars facts, and I don't

738
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: think he wanted to do it, but his agent at

739
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the time was like, nah, we're gonna go push for

740
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: this this hunter and the Bucks ended up getting sixty eight,

741
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, but but still to ask for it, he

742
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: opened up that gate for a lot of people to

743
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: go get that back. Yeah, So I always got to

744
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: keep that in the back of my mind. Is like, man,

745
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: my pops really reinvented a lot of a lot of stuff,

746
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: you know, and he was a dog so but outside

747
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: of that, you know, I also respect who he is

748
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: and as a father, you know, to be able to

749
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: lead because I know what it takes. We know what

750
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: it takes to be in the league and nine months

751
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: out of your time and then to still be with

752
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: the family and do what you gotta do. I respect

753
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: that for real. So we talk about a lot of

754
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: different stuff. And I got a daughter now who who five?

755
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: So I need that guidance in my life, you know,

756
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: in times of all investments, you know, all all type

757
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah, that's far because like you said, you

758
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: see your pops do it his wife and the right

759
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: way at the same time. So now it's like, all right,

760
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: you in the league. Now this conversation is different. Put

761
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: your money here and put stuff here. Don't be asking

762
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: me for no money because you're rich. I know how

763
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: much money you make. You ain't get no payday loans. Yeah. No,

764
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: My apostles are always good though, because a lot of

765
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: people they really don't. They think like we we Me

766
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: and my brother grew up with Pops and we was

767
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: like really spoon fed. But I grew up my mom

768
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: and my grandma, my dad did what he had to

769
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: do was on the road. We've seen him when he

770
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: could and I respect that. But I grew up with

771
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: my mom and my grandma and we from they from

772
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: the g and it's like, it's sir, man, everything we

773
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: do is is the right way. You know. They ain't

774
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: going for nothing sloppy. So Mom, yeah, man, And uh,

775
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, she told me to go back to school

776
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: when I left. She like, you, you're gonna go back

777
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: to school and do that. And I just finished up

778
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: Harvard Business School, So I went back and did that thing.

779
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, I can grabs me. Yeah, I was gonna

780
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: get to that. That's hard. How was it going to school?

781
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: Because I mean, you know what said the last time

782
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: you went to school is a little different. Time I

783
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: went to school. I think it was man with two fourteen.

784
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: So I'm like trying to back up. Like I opened

785
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: up a book. I'm like, man, it's been a minute.

786
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: It was a bunch of reading and all that, but

787
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: I knocked it out. I ended up getting number one

788
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: in the class, So congrats, b But I want to,

789
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, start my own business, open up business companies

790
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: and all of that. A lot of stuff I've been

791
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: interested in I've been knocking out throughout these past two

792
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: years that I've been stepping away from the game since

793
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: Sacramento take care of my daughter, but I got its

794
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: real estate, Crypto. I got a chance to learn all

795
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: that stocks, you know, and really teach myself all that shit.

796
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: And that's what's important. Man. Like you see now, so

797
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: many athletes, we don't hear too many of those typical

798
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: stories of like athletes are going broken more because it's

799
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: it's draining the like I don't want to be a

800
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty, but I got all these avenues and

801
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: it's people to teach you. But like you said, you

802
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: went back to school. You didn't go to iv Tech,

803
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: no disrespect the ib Tech, but you went to the

804
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: fucking IVY League. Like I can't only imagine the last

805
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: time I went back and look at a fucking textbook.

806
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: And like you said, when you was back in school,

807
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: you was win milling should getting your grades if you

808
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: weren't trying. That's hard. Yeah, I couldn't imagine going on

809
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: school the dog. It was crazy though, because it's like

810
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: all right, y'all know Gillette Razors Safer, It's like, all right,

811
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: we got to break down the company, look at a

812
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: bunch of numbers and it's like, what did they do

813
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: that was different that made them successful? And like when

814
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: they shit wasn't selling, they cut the prices in half

815
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: or they cut it down a certain amount. So it's

816
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: just knowing how to operate that business and like how

817
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: to because these folks talk about two hundred million, three

818
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar companies like it's nothing. You know, the

819
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: owner I knew I wanted to get into business to

820
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: be involved in all this stuff. When the owner of Minnesota,

821
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: his name Glenn Taylor, but he owned a recycling company.

822
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: He come into games every day laughing at us on

823
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: the court, you know, just happy. I'm like, whoa dude? Different?

824
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: I wantn't do that, you know, but paper exactly. So

825
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: that's what it's about, man. It's just leveling up so

826
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I can teach my daughter, I could teach the next generations.

827
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: Like you said, I got a foundation, but I think

828
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: it's important that we learn all that stuff so we

829
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: can stay on top, not just get there. That's what

830
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We got to stay on top. Yeah, because,

831
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: like like you said, the way that they break down companies,

832
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: you'd be like, damn that this ship on a two

833
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: hundred dollar company. I'd be happy if I had a

834
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: ten million dollar company. And then you see that difference

835
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, okay, you gotta play this game.

836
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: That shit crazy. Yeah, exactly exactly, And we got it

837
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: in us because it's with everything, the same thing with

838
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: the shoe game. Everything that we do, it's ways to

839
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: whatever you interested in, it's ways to build that out,

840
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: to be a master at that and to make a

841
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: successful business. Yeah you know what I'm saying, especially with marketing,

842
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: because we make everything dope, Like we'd be we'd be

843
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: champion the craziest shit and we'd be the reason when

844
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: it dies. Yeah, like we really be having all the

845
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: control ship. If niggas got on TV and we say

846
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: hey we don't with George no more and really stuck

847
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: to it, it's gonna be a different They go sit

848
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: on the store. Yeah, you ain't got away for your

849
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: Jorgans in the middle. You got a river Oaks to

850
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: pick them sits up. When you stopped hoping, did you

851
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: go straight to school or you took a little break? Yeah? Nah.

852
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: So when I was with the Kings, and I think

853
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: it was February marks when I got released, and a

854
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know I had hyper extending my

855
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: knee twice. So I'm on the court. I think I

856
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: was closing out on Jimmy Butler with the heat and

857
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: closing out, and it's just my knee just locked and

858
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: just gave out. And that's a scary feeling when you

859
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: just running and you just give out. So that ended

860
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: up twice right before the King situation. I ended up

861
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: leaving the team and then just got my got my

862
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: stuff right here in Indianapolis is home for me, make

863
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: sure my knee was right, got all the therapy ship born, yeah,

864
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then just make sure I make

865
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: sure I just handle what I wanted to handle, what

866
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to do with my time. And now I

867
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: got everything that I need to get out the way

868
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: and now focused on getting back to the league. And

869
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: like I said, started my business. I ain't announced it yet,

870
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: but something to do with involving with dunking and hooping

871
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: for the for the next generation. It's introducing that to them.

872
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: So you know, I got the sauce, the secrets to that,

873
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: to that skill, and we could talk about that. I

874
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: remember when he was doing the dunk contest, like it's

875
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: a way to jump. Yeah. I'm like, you just go

876
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: go through the drip. He's like, nah, it's a secret

877
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: to everything. Man, this niggas. You got some space gym.

878
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: The strip shoes, remember that I bought all of them

879
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: and everything. So that's the reason why I'm doing this

880
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: is because I bought the shoes where it gave you

881
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: the heel or whatever you couldn't touch the ground. And

882
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, I bought the DVDs to get my vertical

883
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: up and I put sat in my shoes like Jordan

884
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: everything and I figured out that the secrets to jump

885
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: and the sauce to jump. And so that's hard. I

886
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: want to get back and do that, but scale it

887
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: out and make it a business as you should. Yeah,

888
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: don't do nothing for free. You can't now, don't do

889
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: nothing for free. And that's hard. Like you said, you know,

890
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: you stuck that in there. You say you're working back,

891
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, sing to get back activity streets. You know

892
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You see they headed out the bags,

893
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: go get you another one. I got a couple of

894
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: questions for you know what I'm saying. Far as your

895
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: poke career, what was the favorite team you're playing on

896
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: so far? The Warriors without a doubt. I can fucking

897
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people. That's a crazy topic because

898
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, they shit on us

899
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: that year with the Warriors. They like, oh, y'all, y'all

900
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: was ya was trash and you know we we was like,

901
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: we didn't win a lot of games. But I'm looking

902
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: at it like, I'm here guarding Brian every night. I'm

903
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: guarding Brian Kauai PG. You know, every night, I'm at

904
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: that three spot. I'm starting. I'm doing what I gotta

905
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: do on both ends of the court, having the career numbers.

906
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: But besides all of that, playing with Dre Klay Thompson,

907
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Steph Curry, getting to see them like what they really like.

908
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Like Steve Kerr, I remember during practice

909
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: one time, he's like, all right, we're gonna call the

910
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: play reverse. He's like, nah, scratch that, I gotta I

911
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: drop a tesla. I'm gonna click it like this verse.

912
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, But it's just stuff like that way

913
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: keep us locked in. Were laughing and shit, But he like,

914
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: you think it's a funny joke, but we really like

915
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: locked in. Now we're like, all right, reverse everybody rubbing verse.

916
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: You know. But Coach like that man he sometimes you

917
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: walk in the gym, he like seventy five, Sonny, just

918
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: go and enjoy some somening, get your shots up, go

919
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: and enjoy the sun. No practice, damn you know what

920
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying? What going for that? You need? What you

921
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: wasn't doing that? Bud was kind of like bubb would do.

922
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: That was like that. What was their work ethic? Like

923
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: seeing Draymond and there. I mean, I know you clearly

924
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: think you a thousand ice on your thinking. I know

925
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: you're you've been dedicated to their motherfucking bait, that little

926
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: lit my size of it. Nigga, alright, no, you're working

927
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: that waking bait. How was they ship though? Like watching

928
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: them like way step Steph Curry is is like a

929
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: beast man. Yeah, anything hand eye coordination. I think I've

930
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: seen an interview with andre Igudalla saying it, but anything

931
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: hand eye coordination, where if Steph would shoot, like shooting

932
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: from a mile away, he's gonna hit the target. If

933
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: he's darts, he gonna hit the target, pool table, he's

934
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna he gonna knock that down anything, hand eye coordination,

935
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: steph owning and that he really liked that. But as

936
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: far as like his practice time, it's crazy, man, dude,

937
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: don't stop running. You see why he is shape. Yeah,

938
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You see why he is successful.

939
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: He gets to the gym early every day and he

940
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: put it in his work, you know what I'm saying.

941
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: So I respect all of him because too, Drea pull

942
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: up to pull up here to the pock put you know,

943
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: you know Dray coolest hell so same thing with Clay.

944
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: They all just they don't operate like the superstar mentality

945
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: where they can you know what I'm saying. They operate

946
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: off off love for the teammates. You can't do nothing

947
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: but respect that for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna that's always

948
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: be one of my fighter players. But you can tell

949
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: like the culture like you so I hate when people

950
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 1: say that were but you could tell like the culture,

951
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: like the relationships they gout there like that ship genuine

952
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: but especially like y'all who playing the multiple teams. You

953
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: go from places that's really lit like that, and then

954
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: you go to another organization. It's like, Nah, these niggas

955
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: ain't on this at all. It's hard to dial in

956
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: after that shit, like you got a really different sit

957
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that practial school with oh yeah, yeah,

958
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean I went from Atlanta to the Paces. I

959
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: love the people with the people with the Pacers are

960
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: good people. Like the people around the organization and good people.

961
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: But that team was just not boy dysfunctional. It was

962
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: I love people with the Pacers that make them, you know,

963
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: like a decent organization as they do to small things

964
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: like when I came here, I was in Minnesota when

965
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: nobody that helped me find a crib. My mama out

966
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: there with me. We're trying to go get my friendly

967
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: to you know, practices, and shit. I get to Indiana,

968
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: they got everything set up. You know, can and call like, hey,

969
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: we got the house is set up. You want to

970
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: go check out the cribs we got for dealership. You know,

971
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: everything lined up with the Pacers. That's all right, you

972
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: know everything else that was going on during that time,

973
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: that real crazy time for the Pacers in Indiana. That

974
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: Pacer team, the organization is great. That it was really

975
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: good people. What's your funniest Pacier moment though? Off the

976
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: court with the squad, did y'all ever go out somewhere

977
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: at least I know it was hectic. But can you

978
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: remember time when y'all stepped out somewhere and y'all just

979
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: enjoyed each other? Pause? But you know what I mean,

980
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: just take it. I don't remember really doing much of

981
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the team really ain't two games, y'a niggas didn't go

982
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: to one little. I mean we went places, but like

983
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: as a group, we wouldn't. Like that's a different as

984
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: team though. If you look at the different individuals on

985
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: that team, I can't see them niggas. Click it up.

986
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: I remember was it YR year. I think I got

987
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: hurt and there was my ankle. I got hurt my niggle,

988
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: and I got back from my surgery, and the whole

989
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: team was at my crib. We was doing some type

990
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: of like team buying. It was it was a mandatory

991
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: team buying it things. I was like, yeah, we're gonna

992
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 1: have it at my crib. And I ended up getting hurt.

993
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: So I come back from surgery. You know, I'm high

994
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: off this stuff that they gave you from the surgery.

995
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: I just popped the perk thirty I get back to

996
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: the crib. I don't know anybody that's there. You know,

997
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm feeling wave like the whole the whole paces squad

998
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: is in there, you know. So that was funny, said,

999
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I never forget that day. I thought you was on

1000
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: that too. Now I wouldn't know that same year, the

1001
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: year I was there. That's when you was like coming

1002
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: into your own and I'm like, why y'a don't start

1003
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: this fool. I was throwing him live. We had a

1004
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: little backdoor play. I'm like every time every time I

1005
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: used to say that. He was like every time, I'm

1006
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: every time. It did, but they wouldn't feeling that they was.

1007
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: But I remember when he was starting on a win

1008
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: street because we was winning all our games at home

1009
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and then you know, yeah, shit go well yeah, I'll

1010
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: be so sad talking about you know, I love it,

1011
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: but so sad. The energy just drained. It wasn't like that.

1012
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: It was like that's you could have been good. We're

1013
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be. It was supposed to be. If you

1014
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: go down there, man, that was cool, bro, were supposed

1015
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: We started the year off with stucky. We had so

1016
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: many people on that team. It was so many forgot

1017
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: under six foot gards of that team, man, so many

1018
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: you shout c J Miles. Ye, did we have c

1019
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: J Watson at some point too? We had all the

1020
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: CJ fuck because I remember I text this nigga after

1021
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: the first game. I said, you know what, my fucking

1022
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: mouths he might be worth for them, said, I'm not

1023
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: fucking with Jeff. I never get Jeff hit that. That

1024
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: fake passed and then threw that bitch off, and I

1025
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we lift this ship. He can't push

1026
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: that bitch and then we just looked in everybody was

1027
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: like fuck. But really we just couldn't win on the road. Bro,

1028
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: we want all our games. We want like thirty games

1029
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: at home. Were losing to the nets at that time.

1030
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: That's when the next when we was listening to everybody

1031
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: on the road. But I think we want like seven

1032
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: games on the road. I try to think it was though.

1033
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: I think it was just well. But obviously in talent,

1034
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't that food. The chemistry, it was all bad.

1035
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: As soon as I got there, as soon as I

1036
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: walked in the door, it was can we blame it

1037
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: on you? It was a lot of I was the team,

1038
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: like the team mentor yeah I was. I was a

1039
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: young young everybody's doing but you know, Mama's coming to me,

1040
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, And I'm like, yeah, I'm just trying to

1041
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: keep up with the way, with everything that's going on,

1042
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: you know, my eyesight, I'm trying to look around see

1043
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: what's going on every day. It was something I'm like, man,

1044
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: this is crazy. I just put my head down like

1045
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: that get some money mantra the third But I used

1046
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: to tell him like, bro, you're gonna be good. You

1047
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: just gotta play. I gotta let you play. Yeah, it

1048
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: was not playing like they shouldn't. That's crazy. So we

1049
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: can blame Jeffer that Basil teams, which is in that's right,

1050
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: that's wrong with that. We played a big part. I

1051
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: probably was like six, I take that. That's a nice

1052
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: shot because I just went open to being like yeah,

1053
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about it. I'm going to open

1054
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: to the idea of being like that guy. I was

1055
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: like that, they're gonna have to be cool with me.

1056
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: Abody about to be all around. Ain't ride nobody meat

1057
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: paused like how to be but you were supposed to

1058
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: jump up, peg back bron see what I'm saying, messy.

1059
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: It was just to trying the rumors to bring Gord

1060
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: herod in what I'm saying, Bro, it wouldn't neat Bro.

1061
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: They love God here they still I wouldn't mad. No.

1062
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: We played the Hornets last weekend. I heard the broadcast.

1063
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: It was like, God, they would be a great addition.

1064
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: How I swear to guy. No, no, y'all could use me.

1065
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: No stop that happened. That's gonna happen. It's gonna happen

1066
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: to the We're gonna retire. Look what they did the

1067
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: Ricky Rubio. They wished him to be a pacer forever.

1068
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: He didn't even play. It was like, at some point,

1069
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: we gonna get this nigga on the rock. Trying to

1070
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: get Ricky for like three straight years. He was there

1071
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: last year, but remember he was hurt. He didn't ever

1072
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: play for the places, but they were determined to get

1073
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: them motherfucking three or seven and get them. That's what

1074
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: they gonna do. What year did you entered the Dunk concert?

1075
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: Seventeen seventeen when that was the next year? Yeah, it

1076
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: was it was that year. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah yeah,

1077
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: because that's when I came up to you, I'm about

1078
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: to win this motherfucker and he was in there practicing. Yeah,

1079
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: and I'm watching the nigga through the door. Oh shit,

1080
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I see what he's doing. Like, I ain't gonna say that,

1081
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: but I'm like, okay, how quick did you sign that?

1082
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: Shooting with that with that that championship man, Well, it

1083
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: was crazy. I was signing d Way shoes, so you know,

1084
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: coming out we could talk about that. It was they

1085
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: give you the options, you know, Nike gonna give you

1086
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: like a little twenty five bands and give you like

1087
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: the resting gear, you know, twenty five bands, twenty five

1088
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: bands and gear, and Adida's gonna get you like whatever.

1089
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Leading was like, all right, we'll throw you were back.

1090
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I'm going with leading the

1091
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: gate after gate and uh, I was one of the

1092
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: first ones, you know, that take that type of deal.

1093
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: It was my rookie year. D Wade ended up seeing

1094
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: me with the Summer League and then I did a

1095
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: three sixty. D Wade seeing me and I was like,

1096
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: now you coming up a way a Wade. So ever

1097
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: since then me and d Wade we got cool. He

1098
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: let me make my own shoes. I put the logo

1099
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: on my shoes. We did a shoot here in that

1100
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: list everything. But so we was like, Yo, we want

1101
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: to do a crazy shoot for the Dunk contest. When

1102
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: you take pictures and the flash go the show, whole

1103
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: shoe gonna be reflective and it's gonna gonna change colors.

1104
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: So they did that on the shoe for me and

1105
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: I ended up. I had like two or three different

1106
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: shoes that I wore, but the eyes were stacked against

1107
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: me crazy. I remember it was me, Aaron Gordon, DeAndre Jordan,

1108
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: and Derek Jones Junior and my age and had called

1109
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: me because at first, I'm like, nah, I don't think

1110
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: you know I can dunk, but I don't think I'm

1111
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna do to dunk contest. I don't know if this

1112
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: is for me. I don't do that type of style

1113
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: duncing and uh. He called me back and was like,

1114
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: I got somebody for you, and I was like, okay,

1115
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: let me talk to dude. He texts me, you're gonna

1116
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: do a three sixty between the legs. He was like,

1117
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: throw it off the backboard, double tack tap between. He

1118
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: texts me a list of ten dunks I had never

1119
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: heard before. I was he out his mind choosing a

1120
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: fuck NBA Jamin. You know. Way I met up with dude.

1121
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: He came to the Pacers facility one time after practice.

1122
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: We walked through the dunks that he had on the list,

1123
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: and I started making them ships. And then he started

1124
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: stacking my cousin on top of boxes. So at this point,

1125
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: my cousin like seven one, seven two, I'm clearing him.

1126
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: I'm jumping over him. It's the first time I ever

1127
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: tried to jump over somebody. In forty minutes, I'm started

1128
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: clearing dude. I'm like, yeah, we're gonna win the dunk. Yeah.

1129
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: Remember that's the practice he was telling I'm winning this.

1130
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: The pacer aside Jim was pacside Jim. All the brick

1131
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: in it. It's still there and it's just the favorite now. Yeah.

1132
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, man. And then we got to New Orleans

1133
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't go out. I didn't do nothing.

1134
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I ain't going out. I ain't partying,

1135
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: damn in the weekend. I'm here to win a dunk

1136
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: contest because ever since a kid, that's what I wanted

1137
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: to do. You know, I've seen pops want a ring

1138
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: and all that, but it ain't nobody want a dunk contest.

1139
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I went une as a kid, I

1140
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: broke my glass, the backboard, and you know, in my

1141
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: mom's crib outside, I broke the whole shout out the

1142
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: whole backboard and everything, trying to lower the room and

1143
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: dunk as a kid. So I'm replaying this in my

1144
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: mind as we pull up Aaron Gordon in the locker room,

1145
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: h DeAndre Jordan locker room. Nobody stretched. We get out

1146
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: there and I'm the only one that's stretching. You know,

1147
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: I do some practice dunks. Nobody stretched, nobody did nothing.

1148
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: I still got that same mentality. I go out there.

1149
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: My first dunk was my best dunk. I stacked my

1150
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: cousin on top of somebody's shoulders, cleared them, and I scared.

1151
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I scared the competition and gored messed

1152
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: up his dunks. I just do it, messed up they

1153
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: ducks and I ended up winning. And I remember grabbing

1154
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: a trophy if I like, I blacked out as soon

1155
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: as I graduated everything I wanted in my life, my

1156
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: life as a kid blacked out as I grabbed. I

1157
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: don't remember nothing else that happened as I raised my

1158
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: head and uh, I grabbed a trophy, walked off and

1159
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: Meek Mill was on the left and I was blacked out.

1160
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: I just walked straight past him, and I think it

1161
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: was my mom one of my homies was like, hey, gee,

1162
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: that's me right there. And as a kid, you know,

1163
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: high school, growing up, me was that guy. Like I

1164
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: was listening to all of me. That my god, you know,

1165
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: that's probably my favorite rapper. You're a dream chaser, man,

1166
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: what's crazy? I'm about the story. I ran back to

1167
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: him and shook his head. I'm like, I couldn't think

1168
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: of nothing. I'm still blacked at this point. I'm like,

1169
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: Jane Chases, Yeah, dream chasing, I see it, Melie. After that, though,

1170
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 1: it was crazy, I started me a bunch of different people.

1171
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: I started to come into my own like ice Cube said,

1172
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: what's up at the garden? You know, all type of

1173
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: stuff when we started playing, So it was love after that.

1174
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: Then it's hard because, like you, I don't know what

1175
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with the Duck contest. Hopefully they get

1176
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: this ship back because last year definitely wasn't it. It

1177
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: was good this year though, Mac did this thing, yeah,

1178
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: but the other ship was it was. It was good, bro, bro.

1179
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: That's why I'll be hitting them dunks. That that Mac

1180
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: was on. That's what I was talking about a little

1181
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: bit about my course, them all them all secrets, them

1182
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: all a little you know what I'm saying. You've seen

1183
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: it in that gym. So I want to teach the youth,

1184
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: like give away some of them tips, Like if I

1185
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: told you, like, hey, this is the one thing I'm

1186
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna give away free game. The Dunk coach when he

1187
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: came up to me, he was like, hey, g go

1188
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: between the legs. And I tried to do it between

1189
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: the legs, Dunk, I missed it. He was like, yo,

1190
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: go up under the knee. It's the same thing. It's

1191
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: just an illusion. I went up under my knee. I

1192
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: started cockingmics back when I did it. I'm like, whoa, Yeah,

1193
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: it seeks to all of it. So that's just and

1194
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to the youngest out there. Fass. That's wild.

1195
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: But that makes sense though. So duncan under is the

1196
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: exact saying. I mean, it's gonna look whatever it's gonna look. Saying,

1197
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: really damn if you're doing it between the legs, Dune, Yeah,

1198
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: because most people between you're gonna try to go between

1199
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: your legs and do all of this. It's like not

1200
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: just go up under your do a skip with with

1201
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: the dunk, go up under your knee and you'll get it.

1202
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: That makes weight. It makes a lot of sense when

1203
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: you just made it that simple. So it's a bunch

1204
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: of stuff that's really that simple. Damn you all know

1205
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: how two K got the whole layout where it's like,

1206
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: all right, you can do. Jordan's done, Blake Griffin's done.

1207
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: All that I could teach you. Jordan's done, Blake Griffin's done.

1208
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: Anybody's duck. It's all. It's all just a simulation. You know.

1209
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: It's it's easy. So I'm excited to tee. That's being

1210
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: out through Harvard through Harbor. You heard the last part.

1211
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: It makes through Harvard. Yeah something you got tips and ship.

1212
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I thought you had some drugs. My young boy the

1213
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: eighth grade. How much conscription? What we gotta do because

1214
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm out in my head. She went to Harvard. She

1215
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: got a peep plug, tapty gonna get that bra that

1216
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: little bobby up he is closed, gonna take keep up

1217
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: through the I'm about to take that. You got a

1218
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: new visiting. I'm about to work on shore. We're gonna

1219
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: put the podcast, hold to go back and home for

1220
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: two years getting my knees back. I think he's got cabbage.

1221
00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: So you are stupid man. How is it? Uh? How

1222
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: has it been, I'm saying, training to getting back to

1223
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: get to game speed? Like, how has that been? Tapping

1224
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: back in heavier to it? Like you said you was

1225
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: in school and that was your your undervided focus, especially

1226
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: with you having to baby taking care of that situation.

1227
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: How is it back now? You're feeling a little back

1228
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: into the game or did it ever leave or do

1229
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: you feel rejuvenated with it again? Yeah, it's it's it's

1230
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: funny because I gotta love hey, relationship for the game.

1231
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: I always have and since I've grown up, you know,

1232
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: it's it's what I do. But I got a passion

1233
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: for a lot of other things. But I can only

1234
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: get to the other things through doing this, and that's

1235
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: what I do and as part of what I do,

1236
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: and I love hooking, you know. But it's at times

1237
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: where and I did, I took a step away. I

1238
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: handled what I had to handle when stuff was crazy,

1239
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: it was all over the place, you know. I got

1240
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: traded from on the plane. I got traded on the

1241
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: plane from the Warriors to feel it. Y'all know how

1242
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: I go. And after so long, seven eight years, I'm like,

1243
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: whoa this is? This is a lot, you know what

1244
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I'm enjoying getting back to it and

1245
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: getting it to that routine because I think that's one

1246
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: thing about Hoopers is we got a routine where you

1247
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: know how it is. We wake up on the daily

1248
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, we get to it and

1249
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: I work in throughout the day and then you handle

1250
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: your business at the two three pm if you ain't

1251
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: got a game. So that's it's been. It's been. I

1252
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: moved to Cali recently, Okay, so I got a gym

1253
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: right off the water, you know, right off the coast

1254
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: that I can go work out and I love the water,

1255
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: so I get to see the water every day. Is stuff.

1256
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: So it's been about it. You got a good dass

1257
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: trading facility. You are here in vacation mode. You know what,

1258
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: open the gym doors. And that's what people don't understand

1259
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: a lot. And you can attest to this. It's not

1260
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: that people don't like doing their profession in sports whatever

1261
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: it is, but the business of sports is totally different

1262
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: than the outside person would ever understand like you said,

1263
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: you got traded on the team flight. That's just like

1264
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: me driving to work and mother telling me, yeah before

1265
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: you pull up, don't like that'll fuck your whole day up,

1266
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: like you gotta go, which I got forty eight hours

1267
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: to report and you might fuck around have to play. Yeah,

1268
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: that shit crazy to a US two. And people don't

1269
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: understand how much they account that this thing all you

1270
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: get paid a lot of money. No, my whole life

1271
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: is changing. I gotta move my daughter across the nation.

1272
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: I got a fonswhere to live between practice, like you said, yeah,

1273
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: so let me come out here in my first game.

1274
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: I ain't in the rotation for two weeks. Real like

1275
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 1: that shit, I can understand like that way on people.

1276
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: People don't understand like that performance shit is real, like

1277
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 1: you gotta perform. Yeah, yeah, No, it is what it is,

1278
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's I understand the fans

1279
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: side of it. I think it's just a lot of

1280
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: people gotta realize we're real people at the end of

1281
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: the day. So you know, I'm not with the whole

1282
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 1: like you know everybody when and a half they time

1283
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,959
Speaker 1: to shine on the mic and talk crazy Stephen A. Smith.

1284
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: We don't get to him, but you know, everybody want

1285
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: to put the mic in front of the face and

1286
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: said crazy. I'm not that type of type of person.

1287
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is. But I think

1288
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: fans should realize that we were human beings at the

1289
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: same time, so anything regards don't be tweeting crazy stuff.

1290
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: The DMS is, you know what I'm saying. I really

1291
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: didn't understand how crazy fans was until we got to

1292
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: the league. And you know, after the game they sent

1293
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: you some crazy they say anything anything, so they'd fan

1294
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: duels all they started coming around, they started betting, and

1295
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: now it's really popular. You know, six seven years ago

1296
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: I first came to the league, they was on that.

1297
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, now it's crazy with the whole bad

1298
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: and I can only imagine what they say by some

1299
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: people walking. They got started on a Bobby Porter's rebounds.

1300
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: Bro I got the most hate mail I ever got

1301
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: in my life. It was like a parlor. I don't

1302
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: even know how to go. But Bobby needed ten rebounds

1303
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: to everybody to win. So you know how Bobby got

1304
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: the little chance everybody Bobby. Yeah, that ship came from

1305
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: that because nigga. He was about to win a parlor,

1306
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: so like he needed one more rebound, but was like

1307
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: took him out. They like Bob, Bobby, Bob. Everybody really

1308
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: yelling Bobby. So Bobby standing up like they with me.

1309
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, and I'm like, damn, they really love

1310
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: this nigga. And then one of the things like they

1311
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: needs one more rebounds to you fucked it out and

1312
01:03:53,560 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm like like what nah yeah nahe but like it

1313
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: was way earlier in the game and the rebound came

1314
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: to me, like Bobby was right there and I just

1315
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: grabbed it and like pushed the ball to court, and

1316
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: they was just like that could have been a fucking rebound.

1317
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: I could have won a thousand dollars. I'm like, yeah,

1318
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: I just got crazy. Yeah, they'd be going crazy now.

1319
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: So hey, listen, I got beef with niggas to this

1320
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: day I've never met because they sucked up a partlaf

1321
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: But I ain't seen nobody that's out of pocket. B

1322
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: When I was in Minnesota, Bro, they was out of pocket. Yeah.

1323
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: That's the only time you got like admitted, Yeah, I

1324
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: got no love for Minnesota. You almost got some hate

1325
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: meal from me for that Cleveland steak game. Man, I

1326
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: would have gave oh yeah, yeah, I would have cared.

1327
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: You gotta have no flashback. But yeah, yeah that is now.

1328
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: But Minnesota, Nah, bro, I got one ounce of love.

1329
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: I just got the type of Jeff t go on

1330
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: Twitter just half. I told you that shit is so funny.

1331
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: The Pacers picture of you hold your face on the

1332
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: bitch is tweeted every day by some patients. Personally, I

1333
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: was like, this, nigga, don't even be on Twitter and

1334
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: don't know how funny this is. Don't be on the crazy.

1335
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: I literally Minnesota was like the worst experience ever. I

1336
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: was swear the guy was already. I just cold, walk outside,

1337
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: make a fucking shot. Shoot, get the shoot a bit

1338
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: like I would get the shoot. I got walking outside

1339
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: the warbest car. I was just like, I'll be mad

1340
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: as it's Cold's not crazy cold? Is hey? I'm getting

1341
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: gas turned watching drum be like, get Cat the ball,

1342
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: get the ball. It's crazy. Man's a fucking stupid wait.

1343
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: Until that, I was like, they gotta give me the

1344
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. I'm nothing to you getting twenty

1345
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: three and get Cat the ball. But the guy you're

1346
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: talking to and I lived downtown. So the worst Like

1347
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm like yaally comes to the game, it ain't be empty.

1348
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: What was the best city or the worst city you

1349
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: lived in? I mean, I'm gonna keep saying saying France was, man,

1350
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: I had the time in my life and saying France

1351
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: not the worst. The worst city Detroit, you know, me

1352
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: being from Michigan a little bit better, but probably probably Sacramento,

1353
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: the Kings, Kings or Philly. Even my Pops was a

1354
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: little iffy on Philly both times. The Philly like here

1355
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: we go again. That's how they don't like shit and

1356
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: Philly they don't like they you in the first quarter,

1357
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: they don't And that's when they love you. They love you.

1358
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: When they love you, they love you. Yeah, man, who

1359
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: they love beside when Brett Brown was there, man feeling

1360
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: for sure, Will, but everybody loves Will. They tough. They's

1361
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: tough love and Philly love. It's tough. It's it's just

1362
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: a it's just a hard city to playing. Like something

1363
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: about the organization. Some some teams got that organization to

1364
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: where it's just some rocky about them. I don't know, Damn,

1365
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I see, well, you know, I'm a Patrios fan.

1366
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Minnesota, it's just a Rocky likes. It's

1367
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: probably cooler. I don't know, because that was probably getting

1368
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: them there now, But before that it was a little spooky.

1369
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he was there, you know, it's like they actually

1370
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: it's real cool people there. But it's just like some

1371
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: we built up high. Yeah, rookie year. So at least

1372
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: you had a little bit of that barely. And then

1373
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: when we got that because Jimmy started complaining. Jimmy was like,

1374
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: take that down. Take that down that. I was like, this, dude, crazy, Damn,

1375
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: that's ugly. Take that down. Do y'all care about the players?

1376
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: Take this down? I'm like, damn, did you have you

1377
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: had the sleeve jerseys where you was in Minnesota? The

1378
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: NBA is nasty for that. I wanted one of them.

1379
01:07:56,560 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: I thought, y'all fu with them. I mean, you ain't

1380
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: on we with no fit, but the certain teams that had, yeah,

1381
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: we ain't had them with ripping bran different and you

1382
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: got but you got in New Jersey now had the

1383
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: sleeves all that, this would have been disgusting. Over the shoulder.

1384
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: The lead is wild out because I remember the Louisville Ones.

1385
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: When they play, I said, all these are nasty. These

1386
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: are these are softball uniforms. That's when they started. They

1387
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: had nigga v next they was out of pocket. That was, oh,

1388
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 1: that's nasty. So we got to get into it. Man, obvious.

1389
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: You know your pops is a legend. You know what

1390
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He had a particular Philly quote unquote a

1391
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: legend a little bit shook and speaking about how people

1392
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: get on microphones to talk crazy, I think that, even

1393
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: though it is hilarious, some of these niggas who had

1394
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: podcasts while they play and have to chill out for

1395
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: a second, the live updates after games be crazy because

1396
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: they be talking insane about games that we know really

1397
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: don't be matter. I fuck with it to a next

1398
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: but I'd like something that ship be like, all right, y'all,

1399
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: like we got to chill out. Draymond should be funny

1400
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: because Draymond know how to do that shit. Pat Beb

1401
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: be hit or miss with me, even though I with

1402
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: Pat Beb. I think it all funny because I wish

1403
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: I would have did it, because I would have been

1404
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: talking crazy in Minnesota. What I always gonna ta. I

1405
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: would have been on there like you. This ship's awful

1406
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: over here. They all passed the fucking ball. You aren't

1407
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: even do it respectfully. You would have been lit though,

1408
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: you would have been lit, but they would have got you.

1409
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: The fuck about it? Yeah, I would. I would have

1410
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: been You would have got traded like you. I traded

1411
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: like that bit. Where'd you find it? On the plane that?

1412
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: I was complained. I was coming to the coach to complaine, like,

1413
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: why the fuck you taking me out last night? He

1414
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: was like, perfect, I need to talk. We've been waiting.

1415
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like frying, what up? Man? Why are

1416
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: you taking me out last night? Man? Gonna see your

1417
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: t score. I scored eight in the quarter while you

1418
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: take me out. You scored your last eight here? Then

1419
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: don't walk in. He ain't like me from the beginning.

1420
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, you just got traded. I was like fuck.

1421
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I did you a favor. I'm like,

1422
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: oh shit, I probably got to the maths. I'm about

1423
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs. Sent you back to Atlanta?

1424
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: What worse than that? I was like, why are you

1425
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: trade me there? He was like, you got a house, diret.

1426
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: Don't you like it's motherfucker, that's crazy. It was like, cool,

1427
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 1: but that's crazy. Was this the same GM that got

1428
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: you there? I was gonna say, there's no way that

1429
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: could have happened in that year. God, my Minnesota when

1430
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 1: they Minnesota kept me, I told you about that. I

1431
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: was a rookie and it was a one time I

1432
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: was sick and I'm sick. I'm like, I ain't going

1433
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: to practice that. You know, you gotta go get a doctor.

1434
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm on my way to the doctor because you got

1435
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: to get a real excuse, like he really sick. I'm

1436
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 1: on the way to the doctor. Agent called me like,

1437
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get traded today. Don't go in.

1438
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: I might not want to go in. So I'm at

1439
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: the crib. I wasn't going in anyways. I'm sick. I

1440
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: start calling everybody like, yo, it's the one time I've

1441
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: been sick, the only time I'm a rookie. Na, y'all

1442
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: can't do me like this. They ended up dropping my

1443
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: bags off at the front at the front and garbage

1444
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: bags in front of my condo build. It just dropped

1445
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: it off and garbage maybe a different bro. It's a

1446
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: brutal business and people don't understand. That's right, get as

1447
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: much money as you can get on and like you said,

1448
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: the relationships, you know what I'm saying, Like, look what

1449
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: happened when you were in Michigan. You build a relationships

1450
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: everywhere you go. You build a relationships with people to

1451
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: like you said, once you get in bat you gotta

1452
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: stay here because you get out. It's a strategy behind

1453
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: it too, Like we talked about if you can go higher,

1454
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, or trying to scale out

1455
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: to get you top ten or top of teen to team,

1456
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: because it really matter if you lottery pick that difference

1457
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 1: between if you're gonna that first four years or not.

1458
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: You could be weak. But the GM with much rather

1459
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: risk three years and almost being right, then wasting it

1460
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: after one year and being wrong, because then his ass

1461
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: is getting the ax exactly. Yea man, so many wonderful

1462
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: sorts before we get out of here. We got we

1463
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: gotta here. Man, the iconic, the iconic story Man, the

1464
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: two one nine legend on stephen A's ass Man, Where

1465
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: where the fuck did this happen? From the man, It's

1466
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: it's a crazy story. I think it started from It's

1467
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: a coach with the Bucks. I forget who was the

1468
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: coach black? They had a black coach back then, and

1469
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, my pops, I guess they got into it.

1470
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: My pops, I don't care if you black, white or whatever.

1471
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: We don't agree. We don't agree. Stephen A. Smith found

1472
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 1: it different and thought that Pops, you know what was

1473
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: going at him because he's black. And we can do

1474
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: the research and see who the coach was. But that's

1475
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: it ain't none of my business. You know what I'm saying,

1476
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: got none to do with me. But as we get

1477
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: to the story, stephen A. Whatever happened between them happened.

1478
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: My pops called me one day like a son. You

1479
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: got a number of the TMZ from I. You know,

1480
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: something happened. The article came by Stephen had just said,

1481
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: Stephen had just said something in the media, like I

1482
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: could find it for you. I made a couple of cars,

1483
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: you know, got on the number. I turned on the

1484
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: news TMZ Sports. It's like Big Dog asked to take

1485
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith to the cage, to the USC cage

1486
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: in the rain. Hell the post got him TMC secretary.

1487
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, he was gonna FaceTime. TMC called in.

1488
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: I don't care what he SAYD tell him me me

1489
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: in the cage. In the cage, yes, So I post

1490
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: real about it. So next thing, I know, we have

1491
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: a game in Houston, and we played in Houston. I'm

1492
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: you know, I guard James Hard. I had a pretty

1493
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: good game, and uh it was you know, Stephen had

1494
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: noticed me afterwards, you know, and he didn't really know

1495
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: Glenn rops in the third. I don't know if it

1496
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: clicked with him throughout my whole five years in the

1497
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: league before that. So then he come up to me

1498
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: in the back after the game and he was like, he's, hey, Glenn,

1499
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: you know whatever happened between me and your pops? You know,

1500
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: when I see him, I'm gonna tell him that I

1501
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: didn't mean it was old is old. We're getting older.

1502
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: He got a son that's trying to make it in

1503
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: the league, and I respect that you on your grind

1504
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: and trying to do that. And I'm looking at him like,

1505
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: hold on, this is the same Steven Ay that's been

1506
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: talking all this crazy at the all time. And I

1507
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: can't wait to call my pops after that. Like he

1508
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: just showed his card right here. That's exactly who he is.

1509
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, yeah, but yeah, I don't

1510
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: like to beat that that personally. He tried to start

1511
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: with players and how it's how it's brought about, and

1512
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 1: then whatever said it said, it's done and need to

1513
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: be done. But for some reason he just dragged the

1514
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: thing along with my pops. And it's like, man, even

1515
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: my pops say it was thirty years you know what

1516
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, man, that was forever ago, and he

1517
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: still want to put my name in his mouth, but

1518
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: Pop shut it down. Then when he said the UFC,

1519
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: he came and apologize quick. What's up with it? The

1520
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: fact that he had you called TMZ, that's top two.

1521
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: Fact that he FaceTime TNZ. I have never heard of,

1522
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: no interviews at all, No nothing, nobody heard from He

1523
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: stayed itself. You know what I'm saying. And he called

1524
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 1: me like you got the number that at all places

1525
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: to a brother. That's why I had me weig. I

1526
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: was stuck like Mark Spears, like he asked, nobody said TMC.

1527
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: Pops will keep me around some messy motherfuckers because he

1528
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: know what time it is, he knows what blog is.

1529
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: Pop Man, we call it straight in. We gonna not

1530
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: beat around the bloom. I mean he's smart though he

1531
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: can't do ESP and they's gonna filter. He said, nah,

1532
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: who go get this message out? That motherfucker like hello,

1533
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: he was ready for it, man, he was. They let

1534
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 1: him cussin on facetiwn with it. You ever think about

1535
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: how crazy how much like how many points show Pops

1536
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: at average in college, like playing in college, and you know,

1537
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: like that ship is Wow, it's even crazy my pops.

1538
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: So he didn't play his freshman year yea and Grace

1539
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: and then that he had me. I was born the

1540
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: next year, damn. So they had me at school and

1541
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: gen Katie off I probably said say this, Katie was

1542
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: like it was like, yo, your firstborn son got a

1543
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: scholarship to for too. I could have went, you know

1544
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, damn Matt. Yeah, so that player fucked

1545
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: up the bag. So y'all lost in the first one.

1546
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 1: But man, it was crazy. It is crazy to look

1547
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 1: back and see like everywhere I go, you know, out

1548
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: here in Indiana, people know Pop's name legend bro. And

1549
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: it's been always crazy for me to deal with as

1550
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: growing up being a third having the same name as him,

1551
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: and I used to hate it growing up. But you know,

1552
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: I hit a certain age al I was like, WHOA,

1553
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: this could actually help me, you know what I'm saying.

1554
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: I started to really my pop's cool. Like I started

1555
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: to really see how cool my pops was. We do

1556
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: the same thing. I started to really take it for

1557
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: what it was worth. But I never like sometimes I

1558
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,839
Speaker 1: go back and pop it. In his old games from Purdue,

1559
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: he dunked on greg osan tag. It's crazy to think

1560
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: about number one player in the you know, college basketball

1561
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: back then and a million and all of that stuff

1562
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: is It's crazy, bro, The average that many points in

1563
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 1: college is crazy. I don't know why that nigga always

1564
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 1: just looks super big on and he is. Then my

1565
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: brother is because he's six nine like this, Yeah, my

1566
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 1: brothers six one and just like this, I just got

1567
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 1: my at his height. Yeah, yeah, it's a difference. I

1568
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: gotta ask you know what I'm saying. I know it's

1569
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of an a subscripency, you know what

1570
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Whence I get that one on one on

1571
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: or that that ever happened, I know what happened to.

1572
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me this the other day and they was like, Yo,

1573
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 1: when was the first time that you beat your pops

1574
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: one on one, and I was like, I think it

1575
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 1: was probably around middle school, and we would go out

1576
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: there in the summer with him for two weeks, and

1577
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: so we stripped him up. We in the gym and

1578
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: I beat it was a game point, and I'm running

1579
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: around the circles trying to get Pops tired. That's how

1580
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: I figured out I could beat him. I'm running around

1581
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: circles like tea but the baby fucking circus. So finally

1582
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: I hit game. When it shot him, I ran out

1583
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: the gym and I never played him, saying I wouldn't. Yeah, man,

1584
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: I beat him. That was probably like eighth grade, and

1585
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: I never played him again. So I couldn't get him

1586
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: to eighth grade though. I mean, sure you got him

1587
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: a grade that's up. But still if we do a

1588
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: shooting competition like that, he is still he is still

1589
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 1: give me on one, like he still got his package. Nigga,

1590
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: that big bro moving like that. But he was really unguardable.

1591
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: Swear to god, damn, that's crazy. Like you said, you

1592
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: got him in eighth grade. Have you got him in

1593
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: two k yet? Nah? Nah? He a legend ed in

1594
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 1: He really cold. Yeah, he played two K more than

1595
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: me and I played two K. You're ducking that smoke.

1596
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: I ain't never ducking ducking that smoke ducking, but his

1597
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: probably played two K. That's hard. And at that time

1598
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing two K when I lived in the

1599
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 1: Linna and he was owning you won't play. I'm like,

1600
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: he got us our first PlayStation, man, my brother, and

1601
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: that's how we've been. You know, either somebody go Xbox

1602
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: or PlayStation growing up, and then we went straight PlayStation.

1603
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: I never forget he walked in PlayStation. We could never

1604
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: be him. And that's how he just left it at that.

1605
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: You gotta keep some of your kids, like you know

1606
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: what you know, you gotta have some of your kids like,

1607
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. You're not gonna suck

1608
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: me in this. I don't think my dad grab me

1609
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: and nothing like that. I don't put it up. You

1610
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: better than me at pools, better than me at pool.

1611
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: He's better than you at golf too, Bronig golf. But

1612
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: you went out there. You're right, I could be better

1613
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: than if I startin't wait till that day to come

1614
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 1: on the show. Crazy Oh many first and four bouts man,

1615
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: we gotta say congratulations on your graduation. Oh yeah, go ahead,

1616
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: take off, Like what's that when you made to the league.

1617
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: What's that league moment for you? Like off the court,

1618
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: like we you know, everybody go out that first time.

1619
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: He'd be like, damn, I really in the league because

1620
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: that dude just spend fifty thousand dollars, you know what

1621
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean. Y'all was in Minnesota, so y'all was young,

1622
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: So like, did y'all have a moment like that? Man? Well,

1623
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 1: first I was a moment. I think it was my

1624
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: fourth year and I was playing with the Pistons and

1625
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 1: b G. Blake Griffin. Then I get to my rookie

1626
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: but BG, we was We all went out to the club,

1627
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, everybody on the team. We was out when

1628
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: I forgot what game it was. We won, We're feeling good,

1629
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: and Blake like, yeah, come out, we're gonna go here.

1630
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: So we all go. BG ain't never show up. So

1631
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: we all in the locker room the next day, everybody tying,

1632
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: they shoot like looking around and Nigga like, do he know, man,

1633
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: we ran up the bill so bad that day, lighting up,

1634
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 1: bottle lighting up, bottle lighting up, just go ball, coming down,

1635
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: full of money everything. Everything. I forgot where we was.

1636
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,800
Speaker 1: Y'all was clowning. I forgot what we was. But we

1637
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: came back to Detroit and we was in practice the

1638
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: next day and we looked around in the locker room

1639
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: and I was just looking at me. He said next

1640
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 1: to me, I'm looking at him like, and he looked

1641
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: like forgot looking at you know, you're talking. And everybody

1642
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: was like nothing, don't worry about it. Ain't nobody ever

1643
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: say nothing to him. It's probably the first time you

1644
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna find out him dollar Bill was just him spade.

1645
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: Everything was on him. You know, you played with a

1646
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: good vent like that, come to the club. You know

1647
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,839
Speaker 1: he had his card or whatever. Now in the whole situation,

1648
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 1: that's fun. We didn't have to worry about nothing. I

1649
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: ain't get one of them. He gotta he got a

1650
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: unbelievable bag for that. Yeah, Mo Williams. Though, he used

1651
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: to give me his per diem every flight. He was

1652
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: second round, so he knew it. It was like and

1653
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: it was like a hundred, it was like one hundred

1654
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: and twenty five or whatever it was. But for him

1655
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: to give that to me every flight, I was like

1656
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm like whoa like this per deem like whoa every

1657
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: flight and you know we're going to La Trips two

1658
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 1: weeks too. It's like two man in a little bag.

1659
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 1: We get every time every flight, Williams shout to my

1660
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: Williams never get. He came to Baker's life and gave

1661
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: us fifty five man. Yeah, that's the team. Yes. I

1662
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: could not believe it. I was just like, what the fuck?

1663
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: Fifty five? It was random two, It was a week

1664
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: night picking. It was the craziest shit. I remember that video.

1665
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: He was and probably the last story I got for y'all.

1666
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: K D. I remember I got invited to the KD camp.

1667
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: As in high school, you wanted to make it as

1668
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: a wing. So I'm like, I think I faced him

1669
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: and everybody was scared to guard him. And you see

1670
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: k D. He's seven foot, he's skinny as hell. I'm like,

1671
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: I can lock him up. You know, I'm nineteen. I'm like, man,

1672
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm pushing him over because back that time, going into Michigan,

1673
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: I was like, man, KAD came out there and hit

1674
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: me with like a like a stiff arm lay up.

1675
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,560
Speaker 1: Threw me back so bad. In high school, I was

1676
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: as a seer, I'm like, nah, it's grown man strength.

1677
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: So I'm messaging him on Twitter and was like, yeah,

1678
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you in the league. And you know,

1679
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 1: I still got to tweet to this day, but he

1680
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: ended up to tweet me back on DM like I

1681
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: see you at the top, bro, And to that day,

1682
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: I matched up against him and with the Warriors, and

1683
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 1: he came at my neck three or four times straight.

1684
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, that's probably the toughest matchup that I

1685
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: ever had. Was k D seven foot dribble shoot right

1686
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 1: over you and shit, you got you gotta braun, you

1687
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 1: gotta said. He was that negative. He's just like everybody Christmas, Bro.

1688
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't even feel no way, how was gonna happen?

1689
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: Who liked the least expected person that you was hard

1690
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: like you had to guard. Nobody would think like he

1691
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: really liked that. We know everybody in the league is good.

1692
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: Oh well, Luca, we know he liked that. Yeah. You

1693
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: know then Luca, a couple of years ago, we didn't

1694
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: know everything about his game. We just knew he was

1695
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: coming from you know, overseas. Oh yeah, he started hitting

1696
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: with the slow to quick and you know some of

1697
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 1: them passed the ball and go cut off of it,

1698
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: some of the like euro League stuff. I was like, yo,

1699
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: he cold. It's hard to because he just looked like

1700
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: he ain't about to do some of that stuff. But

1701
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: shifty Aarona flollow my rookie year. Yes, they gassed me

1702
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: up to come into the game. I had. I hadn't

1703
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 1: got in the game like that yet. And I speak

1704
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: Flip Saunders had. He had just got sick, a Pete

1705
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: flip and he had just got sick. And I think

1706
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: Sam sam Mitchell adventual the cover took over. He gave

1707
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 1: me my shot. He was saying, was crazy as hell.

1708
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: He used to make you do all type of drills

1709
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 1: fifty times, yelling at you. Yeah, I get in the

1710
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: game myself. And he was gassing me up all morning

1711
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: and fo hit three straight, three straight corner threes on me,

1712
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: fading away like Joe. You know, he he was cold.

1713
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: Used to hate on that nigga still he thought he

1714
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: was COVID man. He hit me with all that work

1715
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,880
Speaker 1: that day. I was like, yo, he really liked that

1716
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: b he was. He was like that time, so that

1717
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: probably that was probably the guy. I was like, yo,

1718
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: like all right, I know he was like that, I'm ahead,

1719
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: but he always averaged nineteen point six points a game

1720
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 1: no matter where he was at. I told you he

1721
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: used to hit on. I'm like, bro, he's really liked that. Bro,

1722
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: he could hold cooked me like that. Damn uh no

1723
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 1: the Colo what nigga that he cooked me one game?

1724
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: He was for the Spurs, who was like I remember

1725
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: talking about he bore number twenty five and never forget

1726
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: he was number twenty five, And I thought this nigga

1727
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: was trash boy. He was terrible. It was going to work.

1728
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: What was this? It's probably like my fourth third or

1729
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 1: fourth fild was that la? He gave you work? I

1730
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 1: just didn't respect him like I was waiting for Tony Parker.

1731
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, and this nigga was killing It's my time. Yeah,

1732
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: he was going to work. I seen you with some

1733
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: sneaky dunks, though, What was your probably favorite dunk that

1734
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: she what was going to because I always wanted I

1735
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: was running through d on somebody. Now my favorite dunk.

1736
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: I dunked on Ray Allen. It what happened? Yeah? I

1737
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: only like that because KG was just talking so bad

1738
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: to me, and when I dunked on him like bitch.

1739
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: Then I earbolt the game winner. KG followed me to

1740
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 1: the tunnel. Nigga, don't ever fu with the basketball guy

1741
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: like shit, I'm trying to run. I try to run

1742
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 1: to the back of the tunnel like my fat y'all Joe,

1743
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: like everybody mad at me to you just hear KG

1744
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: sniggle said sniggah. Hey, Airing was so crazy. Figured out

1745
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: that man out the saddest sport wouldn't shit, don't the

1746
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 1: part respect you? And then we played him in the

1747
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 1: playoffs that year and he wouldn't say my name, like

1748
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 1: he wouldn't acknowledge me, like you know how you gonna

1749
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 1: shake Nigga's hand before the game. I'm like, yo, what up?

1750
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: You know? Round though? Cool niggas. I want to go

1751
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: reach for him that niggas is sporting started pacing. I'm like,

1752
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: fuck you. So the first game I had a really

1753
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: good game and the media was like, yeah, the t guy,

1754
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: he was really getting in the lane, you know, penetrate.

1755
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: He's like who who? I don't know what you're talking about.

1756
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: That nigg gonna do me Like I fuck with ticket,

1757
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: Like why you're doing me like that? Who? And then

1758
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: when we played with much. He finally played with him.

1759
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: He finally told me like, yeah, I focused your brotherly.

1760
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 1: Could I ever wanted to hear? Yeah, that nigga just

1761
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: like you, nigga. That nigga barked at me in the game.

1762
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: They got on all fours and bark, what's what we

1763
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: jump in the ball nigga? And he got like I

1764
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: was bringing the rock up, nigga, And it was like

1765
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,000
Speaker 1: about the our horse was about to run up and

1766
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: set the screen. He just didn't follow out down and

1767
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: just a four start barking. I'm like, man, who is

1768
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,800
Speaker 1: this nigga? Brow? First time I met him, he was

1769
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 1: in the dark, complete dark, like the gym. It's yelling,

1770
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: same thing, just yelling, and they seen me. He's like dog.

1771
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: Because that's what caught my I've been waiting to talk

1772
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 1: to you. Man. You got chills first as a rookie

1773
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: say nothing because at that time it was on the

1774
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: news like y'all he's throwing rookie's phones and the toilet.

1775
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: So I asked the straight up, like yo, Me and

1776
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: Zach asked him like exact, Lavine were like yo, throwing

1777
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: the phones in the toilets were cool? You know what

1778
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's when he was back mentoring up there

1779
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: on that he was like helping with cats. That's crazy. Yeah,

1780
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: the kids, you luck you down this house. Yep. His

1781
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: last year, yep, I know that he was more like

1782
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: a pro officer. Yeah, damn crazy crazy, that's crazy. Man.

1783
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate you sliding once again. Congratulations man, under graduation.

1784
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: Looking forward. So you get back on the court. Man,

1785
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this rehab popping absolutely, man. Just whatever you do,

1786
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: just don't go back to the pastures. Man. We want

1787
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: you to thrive. Man. Get away from the pass and

1788
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: get away from Minnesota. Man, you don't go to the

1789
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: crib man like that. I want the best option, always open,

1790
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: I keep it. Oh no, I'm something I don't forget.

1791
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Always open. We'll see what happened, man, I'm excited to

1792
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: get back to it though. But show like share, subscribe,

1793
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: all that good ship. We'll see y'all next time.