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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Glay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. Bucks still on his honeymoon

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Speaker 1: with the Lovely carry Out for the rest of this week.

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Speaker 1: He is somewhere in the South Pacific living it up.

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Speaker 1: I am with you here Clay Travis, to roll through

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Speaker 1: the stories of the day and help bring a little

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Speaker 1: bit of sanity to an insane world. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you are having fantastic Wednesday's giving you a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a roadmap of where we're headed on the show.

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Speaker 1: Next hour, we're going to dive into this Ohio train

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Speaker 1: spill and what exactly is going on there with Bill Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the Congressman who represents that area. Of the latest news there.

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Speaker 1: We will also continue to follow the ongoing crisis surrounding

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Speaker 1: What do we even shoot down and why do we

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Speaker 1: still not know what we shot down the past week

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Speaker 1: or so and what exactly happened there We will discuss

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Speaker 1: as it is underway right now. Nicki Haley officially announcing

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Speaker 1: her presidential run, joining Donald Trump as a contender in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Who else is going to run. How

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Speaker 1: do we assess her viability? Will discuss that as well.

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Speaker 1: A lot to get into be taking your calls as well. Also,

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Speaker 1: this is a troubling story doctor Jensen, who was the

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Speaker 1: nominee for Minnesota governor for Republicans. They're trying to take

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Speaker 1: away his medical license. This is a crazy story that

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Speaker 1: I think we need to discuss. Also, New York City

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Speaker 1: sent to the FBI fingerprint data on New York City

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Speaker 1: school teachers who were refusing to get the COVID shot.

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Speaker 1: What in the world was going on there? We will

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Speaker 1: discuss that as well. But yesterday I teased with you

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Speaker 1: a story that I saw that to me is incredibly

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Speaker 1: emblematic of the era in which we live, and in particular,

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Speaker 1: what it represents is the amount of young girls, teenage

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Speaker 1: girls in particular, who are really suffering in today's America.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we are discussing this enough. But

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Speaker 1: this came out of a survey, and I'm reading from

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. This is a CDC survey on

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Speaker 1: youth behavior, and it said fifty seven percent of high

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Speaker 1: school girls in the past year experienced persistent feelings of

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Speaker 1: sadness or hopelessness and this number I couldn't get out

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Speaker 1: of my head. Thirty percent of high school girls seriously

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Speaker 1: considered attempting suicide in the past year, thirty percent, fifty

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Speaker 1: seven percent basically massively depressed. Now, the reality is teenagers,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, often are fraught with emotions, and

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Speaker 1: the teenage years can be very, very difficult. If you

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Speaker 1: go back and remember your own teenage years, how much

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Speaker 1: time did it seem like past, between say, when you

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Speaker 1: were a freshman to when you were a senior compared

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Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen to now. And probably if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to me right now, twenty eighteen you can snap your

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Speaker 1: fingers that feel like it just was here. And if

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Speaker 1: you're a and that has to do with the telescoping

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Speaker 1: effect of time when you're younger, that those years are

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Speaker 1: so impressed upon you because you've had relatively few of them,

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Speaker 1: and as you get older, years pass and don't seem

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Speaker 1: to leave as big of a significant mark on your life.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the way our minds work. But what

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Speaker 1: is going on right now that fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: teenage girls are basically suffering from some form of depression,

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Speaker 1: and thirty percent of teenage girls have thought about killing

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Speaker 1: themselves in the past year, and these numbers continue to

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Speaker 1: get worse year after year because we have a baseline

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Speaker 1: upon which we can measure these and you know where

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Speaker 1: this is probably not going to stun all of you,

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Speaker 1: but it might stun some of you. Do you know

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Speaker 1: when these rates of suicidal ideation and when these rates

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Speaker 1: of massive propression, particularly among teenage girls, although teenage boys

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Speaker 1: are also impacted, really took off when social media became

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Speaker 1: prevalent in this country. And if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: is even in social media, which is an artificial construct.

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Speaker 1: I've argued for a long time that social media is

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Speaker 1: akin to carnival fun house mirrors. That's the analogy, the

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Speaker 1: metaphor that I would that I would lay out for

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Speaker 1: you where if you've ever been to a carnival and

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Speaker 1: you look way fatter than you actually are, They look

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Speaker 1: And I think, unfortunately what has happened and it is

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Speaker 1: theory is this is the people that are most fertile

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Speaker 1: to embrace the woke virus which has run rampant throughout

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Speaker 1: this country since social media came into effect. This is

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Speaker 1: a big picture idea that I want to share with you.

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Speaker 1: If you are feeling intensely unhappy, and if you are

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Speaker 1: feeling psychologically unwell, you are going to project those feelings

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Speaker 1: larger country and the war world as well, and so

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Speaker 1: the internal strife that you are filling makes you believe

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Speaker 1: that the country as a whole is also awful. And

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Speaker 1: this is the territory that Democrats are plunging and taking

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Speaker 1: recognized this massive lack of purpose that has taken over

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Speaker 1: in a social media age, and they have weaponized it

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Speaker 1: by telling all these young people, your country is awful,

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Speaker 1: your country is sick. Your country is not a story

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Speaker 1: of righteousness. America is founded on evil and venality, and

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Speaker 1: therefore you cannot support anything in America. And if you

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Speaker 1: think about that, the woke virus is taking over in

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Speaker 1: these young people because they're so profoundly unhappy with their

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Speaker 1: think it's particularly pernicious on Instagram. I want to open

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Speaker 1: and grandparents about this, and also, if by chance you're

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Speaker 1: about the impact as well, because in addition to giving

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Speaker 1: it's also giving you I think, in particular for girls,

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Speaker 1: the people who are most popular on Instagram, this is

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Speaker 1: we've had Playboy for a long time, We've had Maxim

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Speaker 1: may not be as self confident, it's making them wildly

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Speaker 1: You might have known that the captain of the cheerleading

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Speaker 1: there are lots of interesting discussions about what should happen,

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Speaker 1: what could happen. And I don't claim to be an

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Speaker 1: expert on this. I've got three boys, one teenager, one

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Speaker 1: don't have girls. They sit around on social media and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's super healthy, but I don't

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Speaker 1: may explain why the desire to commit suicide, for instance,

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Speaker 1: young girls it's probably the least healthy of all. And

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Speaker 1: how do we fix this? Its some big topic, big discussion.

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Speaker 1: Senator Josh Holly, who may join us later in this week.

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Speaker 1: He's instituted a bill that would ban anyone younger than

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Speaker 1: because people are not ready for that opportunity. I can

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Speaker 1: see the logic there. We don't let thirteen year olds

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Speaker 1: drive cars, why should we let them have social media accounts? Now?

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Speaker 1: Kids can still. I want to have a big discussion

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's talked about enough, even though I

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Speaker 1: bet many of you out there are sensing this, feel it,

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Speaker 1: and see it in your own existence, in your own families.

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Speaker 1: Insane World. Clay Travison buck Sexton, Welcome back in our

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Speaker 1: number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We're headed up

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Speaker 1: to Minnesota here momentarily to talk with doctor Scott Jensen,

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Speaker 1: who was the Republican candidate for governor in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two race. See of a doctor and he is

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Speaker 1: now being attacked, he believes for political purposes and this

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Speaker 1: has become a real challenge for many different doctors all

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Speaker 1: over the country. California, you'll recall, introduced a bill trying

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Speaker 1: Some of you may remember I spoke at my local

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Speaker 1: We are tracking a ton of different stories out there.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to some of your calls at the end

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Speaker 1: of the hour. If you're still holding with us one

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Speaker 1: away in, I'll get to you then. But we now

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Speaker 1: are joined by Congressman Bill Johnson. He represents the area

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Speaker 1: in Ohio that has been afflicted by this huge spill,

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Speaker 1: the train spill that is continuing to cause more and

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Speaker 1: more issues there in. Congressman, I know there's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of details that have continued to come out about this,

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Speaker 1: but for people out there that are following this story

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Speaker 1: in general, what happened and where are we now in

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Speaker 1: terms of recovering from what happened? Okay, well good. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Clay, thanks for having me know. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Look on the third of February, a train

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Speaker 1: carrying hazardous chemicals vinyl chloride and some other chemicals. We're

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Speaker 1: traveling through East Palestine, Ohio, and the train derailed. What

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Speaker 1: we are hearing from the National Transportation Safety Board is

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Speaker 1: initial findings are that an axle on the train froze

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Speaker 1: up and the bearings stopped turning some miles prior to

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Speaker 1: getting into East Palatine. The axle actually, because of the

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Speaker 1: heat that built up, actually disintegrated and it brought the

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Speaker 1: train of course off the track, and it led all

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Speaker 1: the other cars off the track. That's what caused the incident.

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Speaker 1: There were twenty of the fifty cars that left the track.

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Speaker 1: Twenty of them had hazardous or chemicals in it, including

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Speaker 1: the vinyl chloride. At one point, once the accident happened,

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Speaker 1: I got a call I spoke to not too long

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Speaker 1: after that, to the CEO of Norfolk Southern, the railroad

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Speaker 1: company and he explained to me that those cars with

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Speaker 1: the chemicals were becoming table and as a result, they

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Speaker 1: made a decision. It was the best of some bad alternatives.

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Speaker 1: They made the decision to control burn or control explode

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Speaker 1: the tank cars with the vinyl chloride in it, so

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Speaker 1: they could burn that material off as it escaped and

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Speaker 1: keep it from exploding organically. Had it exploded organically, he said,

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Speaker 1: inside those those tankers, it could have sent shrapnel for

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Speaker 1: a mile. You're talking about serious, uh life, limb, infrastructure, homes, livestock,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of problems had that occurred. Thankfully that did

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Speaker 1: not occur. Now that's what happened with the actual derailment.

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Speaker 1: The National Transportation Safety Board Clay of course, is in

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Speaker 1: its investigation. They said it will be a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks before we see a report. And all I've reported

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Speaker 1: to you here are the initial findings. Now where are

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Speaker 1: we today. I was there on Monday two days ago,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going back again this evening for a town hall.

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Speaker 1: But I was there on Monday. I toured the facility,

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Speaker 1: the site where the actual fire and all the smoke

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Speaker 1: epicenter with the mayor, the fire chief, county commissioners, the EPA,

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Speaker 1: representatives of Norfolk Southern, the emergency management folks, and the

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Speaker 1: mayor gave me a briefing and he said, look, he said,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, things have returned to normal, as

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Speaker 1: normal as they can be in a short period of time.

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Speaker 1: The evacuation order had been lifted when I got there

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Speaker 1: on Monday, and the reason for that was because of

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Speaker 1: the EPA finding that there are no hazardous air tests.

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Speaker 1: There is no indication that there are chemicals in the

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Speaker 1: air that are of a concern. There are no water

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Speaker 1: issues in the village of concern. The water and the

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Speaker 1: air are continuing to be tested and they should be.

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Speaker 1: This is an ongoing process and those tests need to continue.

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Speaker 1: Residents are being cared for. They come to a church

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Speaker 1: actually where North Norfolk Southern has set up their their

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Speaker 1: kiosks to talk to people about their expenses, what they

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Speaker 1: had to do when they were evacuated, giving them checks

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Speaker 1: to cover those expenses and those kinds of things. So

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Speaker 1: as of Monday when I left, they were still cleaning

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Speaker 1: up up the site. There's still a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do to return it to its original appearance. But

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Speaker 1: as far as the chemicals in the air, the chemicals

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Speaker 1: in the ground, testing continues, but according to the EPA,

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Speaker 1: the air and the water are okay. Now, I can

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Speaker 1: only take them at their word. I'm going tonight and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get more definitive information when we get there tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's a great explanation of the entire situation

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Speaker 1: there right now. You're a congressman that represents this area,

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Speaker 1: among many others. If you lived in East Palestine, Ohio

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Speaker 1: right now, based on what you have known and heard,

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Speaker 1: would you be comfortable staying in your home? Would you

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Speaker 1: drink the water as it came out of the faucet?

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Speaker 1: You know, Clay, That's a good that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a healthy skeptics on the

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Speaker 1: part of the residents of East Palestine, and I don't

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Speaker 1: have a problem with their skepticism. I mean, you and

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Speaker 1: I both know nobody trust the federal government these days. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's a sad statement, but that's the truth. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: the EPA and the State EPA are the ones that

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Speaker 1: are responsible for enforcing and testing and making sure that

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Speaker 1: the Clean Air Act, the parameters associated with the Clean

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Speaker 1: Air Act and the Clean Water Act are adhered to.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that have the experts that make that determination.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's as high up the ladder as it goes.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think we take their word for it

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Speaker 1: in the sense that we say okay, deals done must

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Speaker 1: be okay. I would insist on continued testing for a while.

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Speaker 1: Here's an example of that. The water is not just

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Speaker 1: being tested by EPA. The city or I'm sorry, the

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Speaker 1: village of East Palestine has its own village water system

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Speaker 1: and they have their own system of testing their water

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Speaker 1: and they've been doing that for years. Right. So when

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Speaker 1: I asked the mayor about that, because I asked him

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Speaker 1: a very similar question, he said, Bill, We're not taking

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Speaker 1: anybody else's word for it. We've got our people testing

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Speaker 1: our water, and our people have a vested interest in

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Speaker 1: this because guess what, they got a drink the water.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you that that what I'm being told

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Speaker 1: is that the people there, the officials that are running

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Speaker 1: the operation, the mayor, the water system people, they are

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Speaker 1: convinced that these tests are showing that they don't have

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Speaker 1: anything to worry about. But now back to your original question,

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Speaker 1: I think if I had that kind of information, I

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Speaker 1: might not return back there. If I've got an infant,

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Speaker 1: you know that's got to drink formula, that's uh, that's

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Speaker 1: the uh you know that you put formula in and

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Speaker 1: shake it up. Uh. You know, I would have a

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Speaker 1: healthy sense of skepticism. That's why I went to um

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Speaker 1: uh Norfolk Southern, and I said, look, explain to me

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Speaker 1: how you came up with this one mile uh evacuation area.

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Speaker 1: What happens if somebody lives at one point one mile

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Speaker 1: and they can smell the stuff in their home and

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Speaker 1: they are concerned about their water, Who's going to help

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Speaker 1: them get their stuff tested and make sure it's safe

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Speaker 1: and uh? And so I've gone back to Norfolk Southern

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Speaker 1: asking them to expand their their assistance program to the

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Speaker 1: entire village of East Palestine. Because everybody has the right

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Speaker 1: to have their questions answered, and we should not minimize

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Speaker 1: or or just simply dismiss any question in any concern

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Speaker 1: that any resident of that community, as should the Biden administration,

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Speaker 1: in particular our Transportation Secretary mayor Pete. Should they have

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Speaker 1: been more proactive in discussing this situation. Should they be

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Speaker 1: directly on the ground in terms of the Transportation Secretary

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Speaker 1: himself in your mind, Well, I think so. I certainly

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Speaker 1: think so. If I were the Transportation Secretary, I would

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Speaker 1: be I mean, you know, that's that's what that's what

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Speaker 1: the pointed end of the sphere does when you're in

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Speaker 1: a leadership role like that. I really haven't heard Secretary

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Speaker 1: Buddha Jedge. I haven't heard Mayor Pete talk about this

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Speaker 1: unless he's asked a question about it. I haven't heard

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Speaker 1: him come out and make a statement about him. And

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Speaker 1: I can tell you what, Clay, he has not called

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Speaker 1: me to ask me what's going on. Does that strike

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Speaker 1: you as strange that he wouldn't call the congressman who

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Speaker 1: represents this area since he's the Transportation Secretary. Absolutely absolutely

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Speaker 1: ill that I call that failed leadership. Well, Congressman, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate your time. You said you're gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: community of East Palestine again tonight. Yes, my my concern

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Speaker 1: my focus right now is focusing on the needs and

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Speaker 1: concerns of the people that I represent Barren, East Palestine.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Congressman, And will you please reach

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Speaker 1: out to us again if there's more information you want

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Speaker 1: to get out or something changes on this story. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time for us today because we've

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Speaker 1: gotten so many questions about this, and unlike the Transportation Secretary,

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Speaker 1: my first thought was, Hey, let's reach out to the

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Speaker 1: guy who represents this area and talk to him about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think right now, if I lived in East Palestine,

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Speaker 1: I'd probably return to my home play. You know. I

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Speaker 1: think based on what I got from the mayor and

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Speaker 1: the boots on the ground there, I think significant progress

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Speaker 1: has been made to make sure that it's environmentally safe.

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Speaker 1: Not stopping the testing shouldn't stop the testing. It's an

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Speaker 1: ongoing process, but I'm convinced that it's in a positive place,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. Congressman Bill Johnson, we appreciate you for all

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Speaker 1: that information, and maybe we'll talk to you again soon

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Speaker 1: as this story continues to develop. Okay, thanks a lot, buddy,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It's pretty strong language there. I would say

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Speaker 1: about Mayor Pete and his failure. Will discuss that a

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Speaker 1: off in China, and that we had been tracking it

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Speaker 1: all the way for a week until it reached Alaska.

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Speaker 1: This is I think an important revelation. Assuming it's true.

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Speaker 1: Always have to throw that caveat in there. Assuming this

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Speaker 1: report is accurate, I want you to listen to it,

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Speaker 1: and then I think we need to dissect some of

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Speaker 1: the implications that come out of this statement. Listen. CBS

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Speaker 1: News has just learned that US intelligence watched the high

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Speaker 1: flying airship as it lifted off near China's south coast.

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Speaker 1: That means the US military had been tracking it for

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Speaker 1: nearly a week before it entered US airspace, longer than

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Speaker 1: originally known. What they saw was this balloon heading east

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Speaker 1: I'm China, towards Guam and Hawaii, but then it took

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Speaker 1: a sharp northward turn a bee line towards Alaska. They

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Speaker 1: also revealed today that the three subsequent objects they shot

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Speaker 1: down probably were not involved in spying. Okay, so all

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Speaker 1: of that's kind of an important report, but let's start here.

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Speaker 1: According to the CBS report, American intelligence had been quote

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Speaker 1: tracking this Chinese spy bully balloon for nearly a week. Now.

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Speaker 1: If that sounds strange to you, it certainly sounds very

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Speaker 1: strange to me. And Senator Josh Holly, who we may

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Speaker 1: have on later this week when I shared this clip

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Speaker 1: on social media, reacted as well and said something that

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Speaker 1: I think is very important and certainly is one of

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Speaker 1: the implications that comes out of this. Senator Holly, we

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Speaker 1: did he didn't shoot it down well, so I asked

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Speaker 1: the question. Let me start with what the question that

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Speaker 1: I immediately asked. So when I hear that we've been

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Speaker 1: tracking this Chinese five balloon for nearly a week, that

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Speaker 1: means when it entered into United States airspace, I believe

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Speaker 1: it is twelve miles off the coast of the United

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Speaker 1: States or any other sovereign nation that's considered to be

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Speaker 1: our airspace. And that makes some sense, right if you

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Speaker 1: think about it. I looked it up because I was

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Speaker 1: curious how far off the coast is it considered to

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Speaker 1: still be the United States, for instance, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: international waters. The answer is, in general, about twelve miles

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Speaker 1: off the coast of a mainland is when we enter

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Speaker 1: into international waters. If you're out there listening to me

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Speaker 1: right now, and you are let's say, perhaps eighteen years old,

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Speaker 1: and you have ever been on a cruise ship, and

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Speaker 1: you might have noticed, Hey, I can gamble and I

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00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: can drink on this cruise ship only takes twelve miles

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Speaker 1: off the coast. You hit international waters. Boom, you can

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Speaker 1: drink and you can gamble. A lot of you out

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Speaker 1: there right now, like man, I wish i'd known that

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Speaker 1: on spring break. Yeah, you get on a cruise you

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Speaker 1: don't even have to break out the fake ID. You

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Speaker 1: can walk into the casino. You can drink International waters

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Speaker 1: twelve miles off the coast of a country has its

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Speaker 1: own law. Okay, so that's fascinating. But if we have

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Speaker 1: been tracking this for nearly a week, how is it

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Speaker 1: that we didn't shoot down this Chinese spy balloon as

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Speaker 1: soon as it entered either our taratortorial waters right twelve

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Speaker 1: miles off the coast, and certainly as soon as it

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Speaker 1: entered into Alaska. Now, we were told early on something

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Speaker 1: that I think is a lie, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: been proven a lie based on the way things have

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Speaker 1: gone of late. Remember what was the initial response from

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration when people like me came on this

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Speaker 1: radio program and said, shoot the damn thing down. Remember

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Speaker 1: I told you that if I was Heck, if I

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Speaker 1: was governor of a state, I would have shot it down. Again.

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Speaker 1: Remember the last hour I was said, like, my kind

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Speaker 1: of rule for life is just be normal. I think

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Speaker 1: for most people, if a Chinese spy balloon is in

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Speaker 1: your jurisdiction, your response would be, well, that violates our

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Speaker 1: national sovereignty. Let's shoot it down. I think that's like

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Speaker 1: seventy five eighty percent of Americans would have that natural reaction.

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Speaker 1: So I would have shot it down. But the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration said, well, we're concerned about what might happen to

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Speaker 1: others if we shot down the balloon. Well, that totally

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Speaker 1: has gotten thrown out the window because we just found

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Speaker 1: out on I think it was Monday or Tuesday that

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Speaker 1: one of the objects that we shot down over Lake

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Speaker 1: Huron up in northern Michigan, the first missile missed. I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is getting enough attention right now. The

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Speaker 1: first missile we fired from a fighter jet that was

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Speaker 1: designed to take down this object in Michigan, it missed.

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Speaker 1: That means we just sent a missile flying off into Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and the initial reports for like a day were they

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Speaker 1: didn't know where it was. Then they came out and

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Speaker 1: they said, well, it's fine, it just landed somewhere in

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Speaker 1: Lake Huron. So the Biden administration was so afraid to

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Speaker 1: shoot down a massive balloon that was spying on us

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Speaker 1: from China, even though, as you well know if you

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Speaker 1: have ever flown over the United States, there are tons

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Speaker 1: of places you could shoot down a spy balloon and

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't come anywhere near another human. Yet they missed

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Speaker 1: this other thing that they tried to shoot down the

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Speaker 1: first time that they tried in Michigan and a missile

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Speaker 1: just randomly went into Lake Huron. Can you imagine if

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Speaker 1: you're just a random dude and you're out in Michigan

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Speaker 1: and you're like, man, I swear a missile just hit

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Speaker 1: Lake Huron. All of your buddies would be like, it's

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Speaker 1: winter and you've been drinking way too much. Bud. You're like, no, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, this huge missile just slammed right into

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Speaker 1: Lake Huron. I think we're under attack from China. Maybe

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Speaker 1: the Russians are here. It's red dawn. Everybody would have

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Speaker 1: said dude, it's northern Michigan. It's the Winner. You've been

746
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Speaker 1: drinking too much. There's no way a missile just hit

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Speaker 1: Lake Huron. Oh it did because we missed. So the

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Speaker 1: argument that it wasn't safe to shoot it down when

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Speaker 1: you have later decided to shoot down something smaller and

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Speaker 1: actually miss doesn't hold a lot of water in me.

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Speaker 1: Just FYI, what if we knew for a week that

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Speaker 1: this Chinese spy balloon was on the way here, Why

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Speaker 1: in the world didn't we shoot it down? Senator Josh

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Speaker 1: Holly tweeted last night a really interesting response. When I

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Speaker 1: shared the story that you just heard, Senator Holly said

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Speaker 1: he didn't shoot it down over Alaska because the military

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Speaker 1: and intelligence agencies didn't tell him about it until it

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Speaker 1: had left Alaska. Let that sink in tells you who

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Speaker 1: really runs this country. That's a blockbuster idea, and it's

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Speaker 1: one that I've hitted on about on this program. How

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Speaker 1: many people actually trust Joe Biden in this administration? Remember

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Speaker 1: how every time you opened up the New York Times

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Speaker 1: the whole time that Donald Trump was in office or

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post, there'd be some anonymous source saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we don't trust Trump, so we don't tell him X

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Speaker 1: or y or Z. And we talked about that as

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Speaker 1: being a part of the deep state, because really, whether

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Speaker 1: you trust the president or not shouldn't impact whether you

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Speaker 1: do your job, because your job has to served the

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Speaker 1: commander in chief. He is the express head of the

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Speaker 1: United States government, and so just because you think he's

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Speaker 1: not doing a good job doesn't mean that you have

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Speaker 1: the authority to choose not to give him the information

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Speaker 1: that allows him to do the job. But how much

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Speaker 1: is going on right now inside of the United States

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Speaker 1: government they didn't trust Trump, how much right now is

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Speaker 1: going on inside of the United States government where people

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Speaker 1: say Biden has dementia. We're just not even going to

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Speaker 1: tell him about this stuff because that's scarier to me.

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Speaker 1: We have a Chinese foreign aircraft penetrating our airspace. My

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Speaker 1: immediate response is we shoot the damn thing down. But

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Speaker 1: what if they just didn't tell Joe Biden for several

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Speaker 1: days that this was even here because they didn't trust

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Speaker 1: his ability to make a decent decision. What if these agencies,

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Speaker 1: these spy groups are actually doing whatever they want without

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Speaker 1: American oversight from our commander in chief. You want to

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Speaker 1: talk about real threats to democracy. Remember Millie said, General

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Speaker 1: Millie that if Trump wanted to do anything that China,

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Speaker 1: he would call China first. Well, excuse me, that's treason.

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Speaker 1: If the president of United States orders you to do

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Speaker 1: something to a foreign adversary and the first thing you

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00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: think to do is pick up the phone and call

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Speaker 1: the foreign adversary and let him know what might happen,

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Speaker 1: you are directly subverting your responsibility to act on the

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Speaker 1: guidance of the commander in chief. But what if internally,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has seen right now as so uniquely incompetent

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Speaker 1: that they aren't even telling him major issues of national

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Speaker 1: security because they don't believe he can analyze them and

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Speaker 1: make a rational decision on behalf of the country. That's

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Speaker 1: democracy dying in darkness. Washington Post, that's news that's fit

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Speaker 1: to print, The New York Times. What if our national

802
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 1: secure already apparatus is so convinced that Biden is incompetent

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Speaker 1: that they aren't even giving him information that is integral

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Speaker 1: to being able to be the president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a big story, that seems in fact,

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Speaker 1: like a monstrous story, that seems in fact, like the

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00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: kind of story that should be leading every news outlet

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Speaker 1: in the country because it would suggest that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is not actually running the country. So who is and

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Speaker 1: what do they want? And who were they having to

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Speaker 1: answer to? Who is sending the orders in the United

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Speaker 1: States right now? That's a big question that all of

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Speaker 1: us should be asking in the wake of this Chinese

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Speaker 1: spy balloon debacle and the fact that we're firing missiles

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Speaker 1: off into Lake Huron that we can't even manage to track.

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Speaker 1: That to me seems like a really big deal. We'll

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Speaker 1: take some of your calls two two eight eight two.

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Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna hear that discuss very many places,

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: but that is very significant. And I also want to

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Speaker 1: play you a clip. Tomar Hamlin, football player who was

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Speaker 1: injured in that football game, is now come back. He

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Speaker 1: was asked directly what caused his heart issue and he

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Speaker 1: declined to answer it. Plus, you're not gonna believe what

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Speaker 1: one Georgia State senator is saying about former Georgia resident

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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas. We got a lot of things to hit

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Speaker 1: associated with that. But in the meantime, I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: as we roll into this third hour of the program.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of things out there that are

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