1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Going up next our final news round up and information 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Overload hour. All right, folks, welcome back to The Shot 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Hannity's show. This is Jordan's Seculo up here with my 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: dad as well, Jay Sekulo. We head up the Americansider 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 1: for Law Justice. Some of you know us from the 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: work there the impeachment from the Butler investigation. Odd SHOT's 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: broadcast a lot of the radio broadcast of the TV broadcasted. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate Sean letting us co host the broadcast today. Yeah, 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: we got Rebecca Kafler joining us. She's got tremendous insight, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: a brand new book. I'm going after Zelinski, the unlikely 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Ukrainian and hero, as Jordan said earlier, former di Ia 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: intelligence officer and the author of Putin's playbook, Russia's Secret 13 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Plan to Defeat America. Rebecca, I want to get your 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: sense first, where you see the situation with Ukraine and Russia. 15 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Right now they're talking about this major offensive that could 16 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: be taking place, you know, any day now, what's your 17 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: sense of it? Sure? Hi Ja Hi Jordan. This war 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: is essentially unwinnable because the definitions of victory that each 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: side has chosen, and there are three sides to this conflict. 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: There's Russia and Viladmia, Putins as Ukraine and double admis Zolensky, 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: and then there's US, the United States and the Biden administration, 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: who have defined our goal as to weaken Russia militarily 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: and economically so that Putin doesn't do that again. And 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the definition of victory by Zelensky is to expel the 25 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Russians from the entire Ukraine, which includes the four annexed 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: territories plus Rimia, and that it's just simply unseasible based 27 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: on my intelligence analysis. And so this is going to 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: be a protracted war. Pusiness getting ready for it. We 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: are getting ready for it because we are pumping a 30 00:01:55,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: tremendous amount of very high TechEd weaponry into Ukraine. So 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: there's going to be a blood bath in twenty twenty three. No, 32 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: we've heard a lot about Northstrea two. It's back in 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: the news yet again the Russians are blaming the United 34 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: States directly. I want to play this from President Biden earlier. 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: This was before Ukraine was invaded by Russia. Take a listen, 36 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: mister President. I had wanted to ask you about this 37 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: Nordstream project that you've long opposed. You didn't mention it 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: just now by name, nor did champ Searchols. Did you 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: receive assurances from Chance or Shoals today that Germany will 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: in fact pull the plug on this project if Russia 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: invades Ukraine? And did you discuss what the definition of 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: invasion could be if Germany. If Russian invades that means 43 00:02:53,880 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then 44 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: uh there will be uh we there will be no 45 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: longer on ours team too. We will bring it into it. 46 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: But how will you? How will you do that exactly? 47 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: Since the project and control of the project is within 48 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Germany's control, we will, I promise you, we'll be able 49 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: to do it. We know, Rebecca, the Germans didn't want 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: to bring it into it. We know that it was 51 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: There was explosion and it's not functioning now. The US 52 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: position and the NATO position has been this was an 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: act of self sabotage. But when the Russians play sound 54 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: bites like that, which I'm sure they do to their 55 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: domestic audience, who are who they're trying to you know, 56 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: keep involved and somehow engage in this war of aggression 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: against Ukraine? And they hear the US presidents say We're 58 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: going to destroy it if they do what they did. 59 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: They have invaded, they have sent the takes, they have 60 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: sent the troops. What's your reaction to how this will 61 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: play out, especially in Russia. Will this affect the Russian populace? 62 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: Maybe say, you know what, at first, we like this war, 63 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: but they're starting to target us right so well, the 64 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Russians are for the most part behind Putin war or 65 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: no war. His approval rating is between seventy five to 66 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: seventeen eight percent. President Biden, or truly any Western president 67 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: can only dream of that approval rating. And that's just 68 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: because Russian is a different culture. You know, they prefer 69 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: a very strong leader bordering on you know, a dictator, 70 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: which pretty much every single year, with the exception of 71 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: possible garbage off, has been And so, yes, you're absolutely correct. 72 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: We unfortunately, and specifically President Biden and most of his 73 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: security team members have given excellent talking points and an 74 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: excellent narrative for Russian propaganda. Prisident Biden probably regrets at 75 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: this point that he was so strong in his assurances 76 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: that North Stream would be gone. I mean, minetogen assessment 77 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: is that Russia is the one that is behind conducting 78 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: this industrial sabotage. Right. I've written a mind telligence analysis, 79 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: the unclassified one on the Fox News website. It's called 80 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: five reasons why Russia is likely behind the North Stream 81 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: industrial sabotage, and so anyone can go check it out. 82 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: But briefly, basically, couldn't have the motivation. Russia has the 83 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: doctrine that was specificult developed for simil scenarios. The Russian 84 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: motor strategists have spent quite significant intellectual firepower pondering about 85 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: similar scenarios. And finally, basically there was no use. This 86 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: was a Freebee four provement. Neither pipeline, neither nor Shane 87 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: nor two was revenue producing, so there was no cost 88 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: to put to conduct us and there was all the benefit. 89 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: And so yes, the Russian people will galvanize even more 90 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: behind even to continue this war of attrition. One of 91 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: the things I wanted to ask for Beck is because 92 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: you were in the Defense Intelligence Agency as an officer there, 93 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: you're getting getting a lot of conflicting, you know, news 94 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: stories coming out about what's really going on there. If 95 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: you were giving an analysis and a recommendation what the 96 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: US situation and posture should be as relates to the 97 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Russia Ukraine conflict? Would you what would you say that 98 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: should be? Okay? So, as you said, I'm a former 99 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: intelligence officer, specifically I was the top officer dying for 100 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Russian doctrine and strategy. Okay. As intelligence people, we do 101 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: not describe policy. It's against the rules, it's against the 102 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: law for us. So my first question typically you win, 103 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: and I brief the Pentagon, the White House commands natal. 104 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: So when we ask that question, we typically say what 105 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: is it that you're trying to achieve? What's your mission? 106 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: And if the mission is to end this war? Um, 107 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: then the policy that the Biden administration is pursuing, which 108 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: is devoid of any kind of strategy, right, we just 109 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: hysophrenically keep throwing in weaponry to Ukraine, which started off 110 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: as night vision goggles and you know the blankets. Right now, 111 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: it is all the way into the strategic realm. We've 112 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: provided javelins, we've provided stingers, we've provided bread of providing. 113 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: We've signed up rather to provide breath lists, which is 114 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: tank killers effectively um abrams and now Zelenski's asking for 115 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: ETH sixteen and it seems like nobody invited magistration can 116 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: resist this man. He's a very very skillful politician. He's 117 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: very very smart, and so we have no ass strategy. 118 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: We just react. We constantly react. By the way, We've 119 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: had ten years worth of intelligence indicating to us what 120 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: Putin was gonna do, and yet no one bothered to 121 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: develop the determ strategy. And so so at this point 122 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: the war is just escalating again. Putin launched the counter 123 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: offensive that everybody is talking about that's supposed to happen 124 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: on the twenty fourth, which would be the anniversary. It's 125 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: actually already begun while we were all focusing on them 126 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: what everybody's calling this Bible one, which is effectively an 127 00:08:52,920 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: intelligence collection device. So the Russians launched, they're offensive already, 128 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and the Ukrainians, unfortunately, are lacking weaponry right now because 129 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: although we have approved close to a hundred billion dollars, 130 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: which is half of Ukraine's GDP for twenty twenty one, 131 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: imagine that none of the some of that weaponry, most 132 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: of that weaponry, especially the recent one, is still on 133 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: the pipeline. It's not there, it's not on the battlefield, 134 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: and so Ukrains are right now. It's a disadvantage and 135 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: who knows that, and he is going to ratchet up 136 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: escalation before that weaponry arrived to Ukraine. That Kaka Kafler. 137 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: She's the again president of Doctorate and Strategy Consulting, a 138 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: former DA intelligence officer. She got a book out, Putin's Playbook, 139 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: Russia's Secret Plan to Defeat America. She also has a 140 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: new piece up at Fox News, the five reasons why 141 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: Russia is probably the state there's orchestrated the nord Stream 142 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: to attack. I think you know we learned from Becca, 143 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: there's no strategy to in this conflict, and that is 144 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: what is upsetting to so many Americans. 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We've just 184 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: had the conversation with Rebecca on Ukraine and Russia. We've 185 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: had our military analysts, Colonel west Smith on our broadcast 186 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: talk about where it's going. This is, this is a mess. 187 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: We've done work. Look, we've done legal work throughout Russia 188 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: on religious freedom for for two decades. Of course, now 189 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: you got a conflict going so that that's not happening. 190 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: But we took we've taken Russia to the European Court 191 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: of Human Rights before we did an impeachment where Jordan 192 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: and I were the defense lawyers for President Trump, where 193 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: people forget the whole basis of the impeachment was Ukraine 194 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: and lethal weapons. Donald Trump the first president. They gave 195 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: lethal weapons to Ukraine. But it's something Rebecca said at 196 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: the end Jordan, that is, you've got to be concerned. 197 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: We have given half of the GDP of Ukraine in 198 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: military aid, and she basically said there is no end 199 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: in sight, and twenty twenty three is going to be 200 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: a very difficult year in this conflict. Yeah. Absolutely, I 201 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: mean and when you look at again the fact that 202 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: we're going to be at the year anniversary and we've 203 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: now said about you know, we're gonna send over tanks, 204 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that those tanks will be ready for 205 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: months and that its F sixteens wouldn't be for a year. 206 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: That's the way Ukrainian and Russians are thinking about this 207 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: conflict is there's going to be war in Europe for 208 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: at least another year. I mean, that is something to 209 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: get It affects all of us too here at home, 210 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: the economy, the economy, the depletion of our own resource 211 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: military resources, which you know, the Chinese and the Iranians 212 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: love the Russians of course because it was and this 213 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: is one of their goals. Are we get so distracted 214 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: with the conflict in Eastern Europe that our own national 215 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: security interests takes second place? So the Chinese can float 216 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: a spy balloon throughout the entire United States, the entire 217 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: United States, we shoot it down after it's collected its 218 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: data and send it back to the Chinese Communist Party. 219 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: We shoot it down over Hilton Head. Then we have Russia, 220 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: and what is Russia doing. They're in a conflict with Ukraine. 221 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: And Germany is in the middle of all this because 222 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: of the North from Gas line. So the geopolitical conflict 223 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: is a also keeps the United States distracted when you 224 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: don't have leadership that's focused. You know. One of the 225 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: things Rebecca said, she said, as an intelligence officer, we 226 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: didn't say what the policies should be. But if you 227 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: tell us what you want the policy to be, we 228 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: will tell you the ways to achieve it. And you 229 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: know what, the question here is what is the policy? 230 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: Just throw more money at it and see if that works. 231 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: Because no strategy, I mean that that is that I 232 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: think is what is so upsecting of the American people. 233 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: But it's not that we want to see the Russians 234 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: win or the Ukrainians lose. So we want to see 235 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: a strategy to end this conflict. Now, come it up next, 236 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Senator Eric Schmid of Missouri, he was former Attorney General Missouri. 237 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Great job, big Tech. I mean, we know we talked 238 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: about how one hundred million there's one hundred million Chinese 239 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: spy devices the United States right now because the people 240 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: with TikTok on their phones and the way the way 241 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: that those terms of services. We're going to talk to 242 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: him about big tech censorship and also some of this 243 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: international spying done through the big tech. All right, stand 244 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: with us way back in a moment. All right, everybody, 245 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: welcome back to Hannity's Jay and Jordan's Secular. We run 246 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: the American Center for Law in Justice thee A CLJ. 247 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: You may remember us well. We've been on Chun's program 248 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of radio, broadcast NTV, but also you may 249 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: remember us as lawyers on the floor of the United 250 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: States Senate for about two and a half three weeks 251 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: defending the former president and the impeachment also of courts. 252 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: We did the Mueller investigation. It's so interesting to me 253 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: you look at all these issues we're facing right now. 254 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Technology has changed so much since three years ago. It 255 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: seems like in technology land a lifetime ago. We're gonna 256 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: be joined by Senator Eric Schmide was the Attorney general 257 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: from Missouri, and he has talked about this nexus between 258 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: big tech and the social media companies and the political 259 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: system and this has become a huge issue in our 260 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: political life, in our social life in the United States 261 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: as well. We're gonna be able to talk to Senator 262 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Schmidt about that and he, like I said, he's got 263 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: first hand experience as the former Attorney general from Missouri. 264 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: So stay with us on Hannity. Hey, if one of 265 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: your goals this year is to do business with companies 266 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: share your values, then you can hop on the Pure 267 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Talk bandwagon. Now. Pure Talk is my cell phone company, 268 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: the antidote to Woke Wireless. That's why they're proudly a 269 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: veteran owned company, and they proudly employ a US based 270 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: customer service team. 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We appreciate him letting us do that. 289 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Or from the americansider flaw on ju I want to 290 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: get right to this because we have a US sitor, 291 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: Eric Schmidt, joining US, a sitor from Missouri. There was 292 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: a hearing Yeshay on Capitol Hill at I want to 293 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: play first chairman comer of Oversea. Take a listen to 294 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: his statement about the collusion of that word between big 295 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: tech and the FBI. Twitter's previous management team d platform 296 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: and suppressed not just conservative voices, but anyone whose opinions 297 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: strayed from what they deemed acceptable opinions such as that 298 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: students could and should attend school in person the curb 299 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: learning laws. In the past, Twitter's leadership included previous CEO 300 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey claim the company did not limit the visibility 301 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: of certain accounts and tweets known as shadow padding. He 302 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: said this in front of Congress in twenty eighteen, but 303 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: we now know they did, even placing such accounts on 304 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: search and trend backlists. Twitter's employees made censorship decisions on 305 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: the fly, often not following the company's own policy publicly 306 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: stated policies. It worked hand in hand with the FBI 307 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: to monitor the protected speech of Americans, receiving millions of 308 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: tax dollars to do so. Twitter, under the leadership of 309 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: our witnesses today, was a private company the federal government 310 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: used to accomplish what it constitutionally cannot limit the free 311 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: exercise of speech. We now know all this thanks to 312 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Elon Musk and the independent journalists who have contributed to 313 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: what are known as the Twitter files. Okay, so then 314 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: all these big tech exacts are there. Sum are former 315 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: FBI officials like j Jko. Twitter got let go by you, 316 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: lat Musk. He was a key of getting rid of 317 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden laptop story. But they all forget everything. 318 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: What's there before the committee when they're sport to tell 319 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: the truth to not committee take a listed heard cover. 320 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Now here's the big tech execs. I do not have 321 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: access to my Twitter emails, so I do not know 322 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: if or how I responded to mister Roff. To the 323 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: best of my recollection, I do not recall directing or 324 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: urging him to take action with respect to mister Trump's tweet. 325 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Do you remember sending that message? Thank you for the question, Congressman. 326 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I don't recall that message specifically. Mister Becker, did you 327 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: call any of your contacts at the FIAT to ask 328 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: whether or not they you if the material had been hacked? 329 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't recall contacting them about that on that day. 330 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't recall speaking to the FBI sitting here today. 331 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't recall speaking to the FBI at all about 332 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden matter. I don't know the answer to 333 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that question, sir, mister mister Jordan. I don't recall discussing 334 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: that publication that they did about the Hunter Biden laptop 335 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: with any of those people, mister Baker, Yes or no? 336 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: Have I ever communicated with a government official using those 337 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: yes or no? I don't recall this, Gaddy, not to 338 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: the best of my yes, listen not to my recollection, though, 339 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you recall making decisions in this manner? No, I 340 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: do not. Those meetings were several years ago. I truly 341 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: don't recall, and so surely there had to be some 342 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: level of conversation as to why Hunter Biden was the 343 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,959 Speaker 1: topic in that scenario, not that I can specifically recall. 344 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: I don't recall exactly who was there. Did the CIA 345 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: or the other governmental agency ever asked Twitter to look 346 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: at something that violated Twitter's policy? I don't recall specific 347 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: outreach by the CIA specific web you know what it is. 348 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: They don't recall anything. We're joined by Senator Eric Schmid 349 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: of Missouri, former Attorney General for the state, and headed 350 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: up a deep dive into the connections between government, big tech, 351 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and social media. Senator, let me get first get your 352 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: general assessment on this whole situation where it looks like, 353 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, the government was putting their thumb on the 354 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: scale and putting their you know, foot on the neck 355 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: of the social media companies to do what they wanted 356 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: done here. What's your sense of all this? Well, first 357 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: of all, I had to just I was you're playing that. 358 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm just laughing on the phone, because it was a 359 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: lot like the deposition we took of Anthony Fauci after he, 360 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: by the way, no joke, had the court reporter put 361 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: a mask on after she sneezed. This wasn't this was 362 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: like three months ago, like two and a half years in. 363 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: This is the guy that was in charge of shutting 364 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: down our country. But he said I don't recall like 365 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five times during the course of 366 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: the deposition. So all that sounds very familiar. I appreciate 367 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: you guys covering this because, you know, to take a 368 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: step back. In May of last year, when I was 369 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: Attorney General Missouri, we filed that Lambark lawsuit Missouri versus Biden, 370 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: which allege which has now been proven, by the way, 371 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: the collusion between big government and big tech. You know, 372 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: the government doesn't get to outsource to these you know, 373 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: some of the biggest companies in the history of the world. 374 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: What they can't normally do because they're prohibited under the 375 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: First Amendment, which is the suppress speech. Right. So you 376 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: got big Tech in one bucket doing this which may 377 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: or may not likely does violate their terms of service, 378 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: you know Section two thirty reform. It should be on 379 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: the table with them. But when the government gets involved 380 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: and uses big tech as an instrument of their censorship, 381 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: that's illegal. And that is what was shown in that 382 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: lawsuit when I was ag Basically they had they had 383 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: a censorship weekly censorship meetings, they had a special portal 384 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: they had I mean they were the government was directing Facebook, Twitter, 385 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: other platforms to take things down the platform and censor content. 386 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: They can't do that. The Twitter files then further exposes that. 387 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: And now thankfully we have these oversight hearings in the 388 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: House where they're further amplifying this. This is and by 389 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: the way, guys, I don't care what your political strife is, 390 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Republican conservative, a Republican democrat, conservative, liberal, whatever. This ought 391 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: to scared that the Jesus out of everyone in this 392 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: country that a government is that, with all its power 393 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: and authority, is limiting the speech of Americans. That should 394 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: not happen. And I think this is a very worthwhile 395 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: effort by the House. We ought to continue. I'm going 396 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: to keep working on this issue in the Senate because 397 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: it's just important or a republic the first amendments to 398 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: the beating heart of the Constitution. We can't sacrifice it 399 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: because you know, the media wants to defend this narrative. 400 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, Senator, and I've spent four decades before the 401 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Supreme Court of the United States arguing against the government 402 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: censorship viewpoint discrimination, which is us classically what this is. 403 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 1: In other words, you let one side of the debate through, 404 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: but you don't you censor out and squelch the other 405 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: side of the debate. And that's exactly what's happening here. 406 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: But you mentioned section two thirty and the and the 407 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: and the issue of section two thirty comes up a lot. 408 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: You're the former attorney general for your state. Will you 409 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: explain to the audience what that section two thirty gives 410 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: these big tech companies that nobody out, no other business 411 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 1: would get. Yeah. So, back in nineteen nineties, the Internet 412 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: is kind of becoming this you know, wide open territory 413 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: where people can like, you know, they can look up things, 414 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: they can you know, they did you have to go 415 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: like on microfiche before. I mean, like I'm forty seven, 416 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: but I'm old enough to remember that kind of stuff. 417 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: So the Internet is, you know, exploding. A Congress in 418 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six said, okay, we're going to treat the 419 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Internet and these platforms like Facebook, Twitter and others as platforms. 420 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: We're not going to treat them as publishers. And the 421 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: legal difference there is a publisher can get sued if 422 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: they don't thoroughly vet things or you know, if you're 423 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: defaming somebody. The platforms are exempted from that because they're 424 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: supposed to become his open source way of people communicating. 425 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: That was a decision to me. So they have legal 426 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: protection essentially that other like you know, CBS or Fox 427 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: News they don't have. And so they've gotten the benefit 428 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: of that all along now. But here's what's happened now. 429 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: They want to treat the left that has taken over 430 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: many of these platforms. Now they actually want to be publishers, 431 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: and they want to censor speech in their way and 432 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to be held accountable for and so 433 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: that's why you hear this discussion about Section two thirty 434 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: reform to say, either be a publisher or be what 435 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: you're actually supposed to be under the law, which is 436 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: a platform. And being a platform, then people get to 437 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: weigh in, right, But what's happening now is people are 438 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: labeling on the left everything that they don't like is disinformation. Well, 439 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. People have a right to express their 440 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: point of view. And that's what was happening in this 441 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: you know what's been exposed in our lawsuits, the Twitter 442 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: files and now the hearings is the government didn't like that. 443 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: You had physicians, by the way, questioning that five year 444 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: olds should be wearing masks all day long. And guess 445 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: what we know now it was devastating for an entire 446 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: generation and students now we're left out of school or 447 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: couldn't see facial expressions, you know, and now they're dealing 448 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: with depression and anxiety, loss of learning. And there were 449 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: some of us. I mean in Missouri when I was 450 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: a d we sued fifty school districts for the forest 451 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: masking of kids. You saw that happening around the country. 452 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: People were willing to stand up, but I remember the 453 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: fact checkers and the verified teams they come after you. 454 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, this is basically to protect Ascent. It's protect people, 455 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, being able to say what they want to say. 456 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: It's really important in this country to have that pressure 457 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: release valve. And that's why these this hearing, this issue, 458 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: that lawsuit is so important that government has no business 459 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: telling you what you can and cannot say you're one 460 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent correct. And you know, we had that whole 461 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: thing with these fact checkers. We've had that with Facebook 462 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: where they will you know, fact check, they censor you out, 463 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: they notify your entire you know. Yeah, We've got eight 464 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: million people, uh you know, on our combined Facebook lists, 465 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: and they're getting these notifications that we said something was false. 466 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: And every single time, Senator, every single time, we punched 467 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: back and they have to correct it. But they never 468 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: how they correct it as they just lift the flag. 469 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: They never send another email or another alert through Facebook 470 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: that hey, we got this wrong and we shouldn't have 471 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: censored the a CLJ and we beat them every single time. Jordan, 472 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, sid what of the you're talking about the 473 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: young people too. And one thing we're concerned about through 474 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: our ACLJ action, our C four is TikTok. I mean, 475 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: we've heard so much about the terms of service that 476 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: basically you know that if you're going to do this 477 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: as a Chinese company, you have to give data over 478 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: to the Chinese military, Chinese intelligence, the Chinese Communist Party. 479 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: And we know one hundred million Americans have got TikTok 480 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: on their phones, Like having one hundred million Chinese spy 481 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: devices are a hundred million balloons, if you will. And 482 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: there's been action talked about before in Washington about banning TikTok. 483 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: Then they reshuffled real quick and tried to get a 484 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: U subsidiary, but the terms of service don't change. And 485 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: we were talking about how bad sitter it is with 486 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: some of these US based companies. Explain to us what 487 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: we're hearing about TikTok's you are you in support of 488 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: these ideas that we should be bannies by the federal 489 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: WI FI state wifis and some states have started to 490 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: take that action. Even Joe Biden has opened the door 491 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, I think TikTok and I think what's unique, 492 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: there's there's all kinds of problems with these big tech companies. 493 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: We've talked about, these American based businesses, because you know, 494 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: there's consumer protection issues about information that's being you know, 495 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: used that people don't know about. There's antitrust issues that 496 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, then we've got this censorship issue. So there's plenty, 497 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: plenty of things to do there and in my view, 498 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: bust up some of the biggest, most powerful countries, Like 499 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: I said, in the history of the planet, I mean, 500 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: that's how much information they have, and that you see 501 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: what happens now when that kind of information is used 502 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: the wrong way. But TikTok, I think you can put 503 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: in a different category. This is a national security issue. 504 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: There is no private company in China. I mean, they 505 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: are the Chinese Communist Party essentially controls the military and 506 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: all the civilian kind of information flow, and they're all connected. 507 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: And so when you when they're getting that kind of 508 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: information from from adults and from kids, this is really disturbing. 509 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: They're getting an opportunity to do something they never dreamed, 510 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: which is to kind of build profiles and track people 511 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: with immense amount of data throughout their entire lives potentially, 512 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: and so That's why I think this is a very 513 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: important issue. You know, taking on these issues a big 514 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: tech is one of the reasons why I'm glad I 515 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: was appointed the Senate Commerce Committee. We're gonna have a 516 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: lot of those kinds of issues that come up. I 517 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: think these are these emerging, emerging issues of our time 518 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: that we've got to have thoughtful people, you know, making 519 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: sure we're pushing back. And that's what I want to do, 520 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: because you know, we could spend a whole hour on 521 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: this guys. You guys very well know on just some 522 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: of these big tech issues and why it's so concerning 523 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: for the American people. Senator I wanted to tell you 524 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,719 Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan of years when you were 525 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: the Missouri Age, and I'm thrilled that you're in the 526 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: United States centers you said on the Commerce Committee because 527 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: of all these issues that are happening. Thank you for 528 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: taking the stands you have in the past and the 529 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: stands you're taking now for the American people and as 530 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: you just said, for our kids, my case, for my grandkids. 531 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: These are huge issues, big implications. Senator Schmith, thanks for 532 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: being with us. We really appreciate it. Jordan, Yeah, absolutely, 533 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think the senators right, You've got to 534 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: have elected officials who understand tech. We've seen a lot 535 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: of problems in the courts with judges that are just 536 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: too old. These something they don't understand, that they just 537 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: don't yet understand tech. We saw that even some of 538 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden is it as computer is as actual computer? 539 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Is it the data? It's the data. But that side 540 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: of that was even the lawyers writing the letters were 541 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: we're getting it wrong, right. So that's what you have 542 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: to You have to understand. You can't have a fifteen 543 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: year old sitator, but you do have to have jug 544 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: senators who understanders who have been fighting it their careers 545 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: and Ed sitter Schmidt has been doing that so that 546 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: when they come before Congress and have to testify that 547 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: Congress makes regulations, these are actual people who understand. That 548 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: is such a huge issue with that we have to 549 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: understand it first before we could regulate the problems out. 550 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: We've got more on Hannity coming up right after this. 551 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us the Land of the Free because of 552 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the Brain Show. 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