1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Join The Conversation live every Saturday from two to four 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. That's eight five to five 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: five six zero ninety nine hundred, your direct line to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: honest answers and practical advice. 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Absorb that for a minute. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: Twenty six point two billion, No, that's nothingnumber of likes 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: this radio show has, although it could be, but twenty 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: six point two billion is the amount of dollars that Stilantis, 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: parent company of Chrysler Jeep Ram has lost on electric vehicles. 20 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: I'm not rabble rousing. I'm not telling tales out of school, 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: but it's in the news this week. They lost twenty 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: seven percent of their stock value in the last two days, 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: and why because their EV model doesn't work. Ford went 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: through it. Ford was twenty billion, GM was a couple 25 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: of billion, Chrysler's twenty six point two billion. I'm not 26 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: taking a victory Well yeah, I am taking a victory 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: lap here because. 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: I was right. 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: All right, they're there. I'm not saying they don't have 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: their place and purpose, but I said this four years ago, 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: and a lot of you beat me up for it. 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: We went two all in on EV vehicles. It needs 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: to be scaled back, and brother, now they're paying for it. 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: It kind of makes you wonder, right that, you know, 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: why is the price of vehicles up so high? Hmmm? 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Could it be we're losing money on the cheeseburger and fries, 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: so we're raising the price of the steak. You know, 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: maybe there's a little bait and switch going on here financially. 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: But somebody's paying for it, and I don't think it's Chrysler. 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: I think it's you. In any event, I just you know, 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: we've got the story up on our Facebook page. By 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: the way, if you want to read the whole thing, 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: great article from CNBC talking about it, and by all means, 44 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: just be aware of the EB market. She's a change 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: in just like the Times. Let's kick open the garage 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: doors as we kick off this hour of the Car 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: Doctor with Ron and any and let's go over to 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Aaron and Michigan. Aaron, welcome apart, sir, how can I 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: help Hi? 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: Ron? Thanks for taking my call. You're welcome, appreciate it. 51 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 4: I love your show. I've been listening to you for 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 4: years now and I always learned something new. Thank you 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: time listen. So, yeah, a pretty simple question for you, 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: probably aligneman issue. I had it into a shop because 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: my tire front tire is wearing front right right, and 56 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: it's tearing the outside of the tire up and the 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 4: vehicles in Michigan. So it's got a lot of rust. 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: So the two adjustment areas that I understand are there. 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: He wasn't able to He could adjust the one, but 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: the other one was so rusty he didn't want to 61 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: touch it. 62 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Camber, the camber, the camber cams. Yeah, the cam's on it. Yeah, right, okay, 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: all right, and your question to me is how much 64 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: should we worry about that? Or can it be done? 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: Or what? How can I guide you? 66 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, just suggestions as far as like replacing that that 67 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: camber adjustment and what and what it involves. 68 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: So how many miles were on this truck erin. 69 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: Uh solid two hundred and forty thousand? 70 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So you know is this you love this truck, 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: You're going to drive it until it's it's dirt or 72 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: we're just trying to call it a little long for 73 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: another year just to get what we can out of 74 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: it and then go from there. 75 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, just uh, just baby in it until I can 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: get into a new one. Right. I've done a lot 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 4: of a lot of stuff to it to keep it, 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: keep it going. Runs like a chant. But you know 79 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: so much rust? 80 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and and then that's and then that's the issue, right, 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: you know, rust rust is it's it might be a 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: bad analogy, but rust rust is like a cancer. Once 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: it's in there and it's spread to a level, it 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: it is it terminal and it becomes that And you know, sure, 85 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: we could spend money. They do make cam kits accompanied 86 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: by the name of Moo m double og if they're 87 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: still in business, because they're part of the first Brands group. 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: UH used to make cam kits, and there was a 89 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: bunch of other companies out there. You could get cam 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: kids with bolts and you could change that. But then 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: you've got to look at the rest of it. You know, 92 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: is the frame structurally sound, how rust it is everything? Usually, 93 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: usually the cams were the first to seize and rust up, 94 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: and then the pins fell out that guided the cams 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: and it just became a mischig. Gossa's mom would say 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: at this point, how many miles do you think you're 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: going to go in the next year? 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: Oh, probably under thirty thousands. 99 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So if you wore out that tire three times 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: every ten thousand miles, which you probably won't do. It 101 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: kind of depends on how bad that alignment's out. If 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: you don't have it for the year, isn't it cheaper? 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: Just as long as it's safe, right, as long as 104 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: it's structurally safe, all right and fundamentally sound, isn't it 105 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, Well, here's another reason to escalate the look 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: for replacing the vehicle, because forget the rust, right, it's 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: twenty one years old. If tomorrow, Heaven forbid, it puked 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: the trends and it was you know, six grand, would 109 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: you put the six grand in the truck? 110 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: Not right, It would escalate, It would escalate your reason 112 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: to replace it. Right, Right, So you're you've kind of 113 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: gotten a different escalation. Right, You've got a different reason. 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: As long as it you know, it tracks straight, it 115 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: handles Okay, it's got some edgewhere problems on the right front. 116 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 2: As long as there's nothing loose, it's not unreasonable to drive. 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: It just gives you another reason maybe somewhere in the 118 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: next three to six months, if if it financially makes 119 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: sense and you start looking now, you know, leave it alone, right, 120 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: It's yeah, you know, rust is a very is a 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: very big bag of shells. You don't know what you're 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: getting into. You know, how deep, how far and how 123 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: much do we have to go? 124 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: Right? 125 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: And it just uh the other thing it does, it 126 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: does pull to the right somewhat. Uh. It's irritating to 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 4: the bean. 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean, so which alignment number was off castor. 129 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: You know what? 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 5: I don't know enough about it? 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: Ron is let me let me ask this question. Is 132 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: the original weren't tire on the right front? Still? 133 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 5: No? 134 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 4: I replaced the set because they deemed them my buddy 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: hooked me. 136 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Up, okay, and all right effective. So did they give 137 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: you a print out of the alignment? 138 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: Yes, they did. 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: And the one he was able to the not the 140 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 4: main camber, but the other. 141 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was able to. 142 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: Adjust that and get that balance to point one point 143 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: zero one, right, something like that. And then the other 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 4: one was somewhat off, but he couldn't even really get 145 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: a reading on it because he couldn't touch the. 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: Right he couldn't get the cams to move yep. Right. 147 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: So it's you know, how severe of a poll? How 148 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: much is it going to wear the tire? Again? The 149 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: cost to repair? Oh, I'm gonna I'm just gonna shoot 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: a number out there, and you know, say it's a 151 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: grand of fifteen hundred dollars. Rust gets nasty, right, The 152 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: kids are a couple hundred dollars aside. If the average 153 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: has a labor rate of one hundred and fifty to 154 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars an hour, split the difference one seventy five. 155 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: If it's two hours a side, let's call it three 156 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty bucks a side, two hundred dollars for 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: the kid five p fifty Aside's eleven hundred dollars plus 158 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: ALUs plus another alignment. You're ready to do this. 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 5: Right? 160 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: See you see it? You want to take me car shopping? 161 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: I can get your car in twenty minutes. I'm very amazing. Yeah, 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: I just you know, let's just cut through the nonsense. 163 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: It's listen. I was coming out of the chiropractice yesterday 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: and a woman's standing there complaining about how she doesn't 165 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: feel good and the chiropractor's got the pills that'll make 166 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: her feel good, and they were ninety one dollars and 167 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: she sat there. It's amazing when you look at people, right, 168 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying you're doing this, but some people 169 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: just like to moan, you know, erin and she's sitting 170 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: there moaning about how she doesn't feel good and what 171 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: should she do? And how much are the pills? They're 172 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: ninety one bucks. Oh, and she's going back and forth 173 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: with Teresa, the receptionist, and she looks at me as 174 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm checking out, and she says, what do you think 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: I should do? I said, well, I said, do you 176 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: have enough money? Can you eat tonight? She said yeah? 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: I said, is the ninety one dollars going to break 178 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: the bank. She said, no, then buy the pills, sit down, 179 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: stop talking, and leave everybody alone. And you know, like, like, 180 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: what are we doing here? It's it's it's let's not 181 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: bemoan the subject. It's you don't feel good. These pills 182 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: will make you feel better, right, I just solve the problem. 183 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: And that's all. 184 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 5: That's. 185 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: That's so, you know, it's be careful, don't fall into 186 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: the trap. Brother. You know it's the truck's giving you 187 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: absolutely good service twenty one years. You know, now you've 188 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: got to go find something you like, which is the 189 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: bigger problem, right, And you know what, maybe you'd start 190 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: looking southern Arizona, California, an older truck, no rust, and 191 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: you buy something the same generation. I bet you there's 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: sixty seventy thousand mile vehicles out there that are clean, 193 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: and maybe you don't have to buy something new, modern 194 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: age wonder, super high tech, F nineteen stealth fighter technology. 195 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: You know, no, all with the same two thousand and five. 196 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: I love these trucks, right, yeah, they just they just 197 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 4: go and go. 198 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 6: You know, listen, there's another question I had for you, Yes, sir, 199 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 6: real quick, and then I'll let you get on my 200 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 6: Buddy's truck has a battery problem, and it's expanded on 201 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 6: the side, like it's like blown up right on the side. 202 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 6: Obviously the battery is bad. 203 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: Right, how right? How old is the battery? Overcharge? What's 204 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: the charge rate? What is the alternator running? Not just 205 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: voltage wise, but current wise, amporage wise. It sounds like 206 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 2: the battery is overheated and it's got an issue. And 207 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 2: I would look at all those factors and again, how 208 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: old is it is? In an older truck, the battery 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: sat the battery is eight years old. It's sulfated along 210 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: the bottom. The alternator is reacting differently to the resistance 211 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: value of it and overcharging it without realizing it. 212 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: It's only four years old. 213 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: What brand is it? NAPA, NAPA, Yeah, go back and 214 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: talk to the boys at NAPA. But it is approaching 215 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: the end of its life, all right, Yeah, you know 216 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: it's bad. Batteries are rated five years And as a 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: matter of fact, if you want take a look at 218 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: go out to go out to autobatteries dot com and 219 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: they'll lay out you know, there's a lot there as 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: far as battery strategy technology, what affects them, how they charge, 221 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: what makes them charge different, but I would just be 222 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: sure you've got a good battery. I'm sorry, a good 223 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: charging system going on there, voltage, amperage. It meets all 224 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 2: the specs and checks all the boxes, and at that 225 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: point I wouldn't fool around. I'd change the battery. But 226 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: Auto Batteries dot Com will help you make some of 227 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: these decisions. I appreciate the call, Aaron, good luck in 228 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: the truck search and they'll send us a picture of 229 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 2: your new truck, will put it up on the Facebook page. 230 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: I'm on an ay in the car doctor. I'll be 231 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: back right after this. Hey, let's get over to a 232 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: fan favorite and actually a favorite fan. Let's go and 233 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 2: talk to Billy in Colorado. I'm need an inaccurate and 234 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: see what's going on here? Welcomes back. What's going on today? 235 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: What are you working on? 236 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 4: Hey? Ron? 237 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: How you doing? 238 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: Man? 239 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: So? 240 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 7: My daughter has a ninety nine accurate three point two 241 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 7: TL thing is a tank runs great except except on 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 7: a hot start. So drive it, warm it up, leave 243 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 7: it for twenty to thirty minutes. When you fire it 244 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 7: back up, it stumbles bad. It'll stall unless you feather 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 7: the gas for about ten to thirty seconds and then 246 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 7: it settles down fairly consistent. I figured the injectors were 247 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 7: leaking down and flooding the intake mautfolds, so I ran 248 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 7: a residual pressure test and it's perfect. Over half an 249 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 7: hour lost five PSI, and I left it overnight it 250 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 7: had still at fifteen PSI also checked. 251 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 5: The urge valve. 252 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 7: That's good. So then finally I plugged it into the 253 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 7: Google box. I'm getting apparently the common thing. But there 254 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 7: are are lots of supposed culprits and no solid solutions. 255 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 2: So why don't we eliminate some things? Right? And you know, 256 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: one of the first things that comes to mind anytime 257 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: I ran into this on them this is now an 258 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: older vehicle, right, this is twenty ninety nine, twenty seven 259 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: years old. You know it's a because I remember working 260 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: on ninety nine accuras. You know, can we pinch off? 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: Doesn't this have a rubber return line for the fuel system? 262 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 263 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: I think it does if I remember, right, And my 264 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: thought would be if and I put it, can we 265 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: can we get a fuel pressure gauge on? It is first? 266 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: Right? 267 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 268 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: And even though the spec is good, right, even though 269 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna tell me you'll call me midweek or email 270 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: me midweek and say, hey, Ron, fuel pressure is good. 271 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm still concerned about volume. I'm still concerned about cavitation. 272 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: Do I have a pump where the impeller is wearing up? 273 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: You ever have a sump pump in the basement and 274 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: the pump goes bad and it's running, but it doesn't 275 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: seem to push nearly as much water as it used 276 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: to because the impellers wore out, and there it's starting 277 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: to aer rate the water and it just it runs 278 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: and it just makes bubbles and it doesn't do anything. 279 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 7: And you know, fuel, you're thinking this is not enough 280 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 7: fuel on the hot start, I was thinking. 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 5: It was too much. 282 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking it's I'm thinking it's it's not enough. Well, 283 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: i'll tell you what this is gonna tell us, because 284 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: what you're gonna do is you're gonna look up fuel 285 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: pressure gauge, make sure you've got rock solid fuel pressure, 286 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: and you're gonna slowly pinch off the pump. You're gonna 287 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna slowly pinch off the reserve. All right, You're 288 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna almost dead head. Fuel pressure should go 289 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: to ad PSI between seventy five and eighty five eighty 290 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: is a good number, but it should climb if if 291 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: we come if we come close to deadhead and the 292 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: pump and we don't get good fuel pressure, we've got 293 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: a pump problem. Questions. Okay, I hear, I hear, I 294 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: hear your mind racing brother questions. 295 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm visualizing he's letting the system right. 296 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll absolutely try that. 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 7: And have you seen this caused by uh heat soaked 298 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 7: frank sensors. I'm hearing a lot about stat and it 299 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 7: was one moment the other day I was driving it 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 7: and it just dropped out for like a half second. 301 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: Okay, you have a do you have a hair dryer? Uh? 302 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 303 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: Or or heat gun? Right? Yeah, that's what I mean. 304 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: You got daughters. You got to have hair dryers, so 305 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: you know we heat gun to But yeah, right, let's 306 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: let's let's park the car outside and set it up, 307 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: or let's leave it in the garage or wherever. Leave 308 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: the heat off, get the car cold a right, the 309 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: car starts fine, right, show off the car real quick. 310 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: Let's take the heat gun, shoot a little hot air 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: at it. Let's heat the crank sensor up. I'm not 312 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: saying no, I've never seen it, but you know, when 313 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: I had old GM thirty eight hundred d I s 314 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: crank sensor breakdowns, CAM sensors break down, blah blah blah. 315 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: We would get out of a blow dryer a heat 316 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: gun and the car is cold. We'd heat up the censor. 317 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: Car wouldn't run worth a hoot. We'd go, okay, well 318 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: that's pretty indicative. We'd put a sensor in it. We 319 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: were fixed, but at least we could prove it, right, Okay, 320 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: you know, and now if you said to me it 321 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: was the other way around, just as a point of learning. Right, 322 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: if this was a hey ron, only when it's cold 323 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: and I think it's the crank sensor, if it was accessible, 324 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: I'd throw the crank sensor in the freezer and then 325 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: bolt it back up. Let us sit there overnight. We 326 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: used to do a lot of these crazy things. Of course, 327 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: I'd have to warn Mama if I was working on 328 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: a car at the house, be careful what you take 329 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: out of the freezer, because it may not be meatloaf, 330 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: you know, so it might be a crank sensor or 331 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: a GM coil pack, which was common so. 332 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: But hopefully she can tell the difference. 333 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Well hopefully, But sometimes they were in a rush, you know, 334 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: raising a bunch of kids. Sometimes you're in a hurry. 335 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: Hey to stick my hand into well, you know so, 336 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: but yeah, let's let's let's do that. But let's go 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: for fuel pressure first and then and then just for giggles, 338 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: you gotta you got a spark tester, right, I know 339 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: I've talked to you before, right, can we can we 340 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: just take one cylinder and put a spark tester on 341 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: it and and you know, maybe set up a coil wire. 342 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of how you would do that. 343 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: There's a way to tee it and maybe put a 344 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: spark plug wire onto the spark plug in the head 345 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: and then t off a spark tester to the other side. 346 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Even if we have to make something up for testing 347 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: purposes and prove that I've got spark on the cylinder 348 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: on a consistent basis, you know, snap, snap, snapsnapsnap while 349 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: it's doing it all right, but I bet you it's 350 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: fuel billy. Do the test. You give me a call, 351 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: you let me know, or shoot me an email. We'll 352 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: go from there. I'm running any in the car Doctor. 353 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. 354 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: From the city streets to the open road to now. 355 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: If you're ready, please help will keep you only away. 356 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: Gay's the car Doctor. R adviys Don. Hey, if I 357 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: told you this week. Coming up this week, I think 358 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: Sunday three pm, depending on what they get this listen 359 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: to this, but we always post YouTube videos Sundays at 360 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: three Well. 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Help us drive the 371 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: numbers because we're trying to get to the next level, 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: so we need your help to do it. And we 373 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: appreciate you guys being with us all these years. We 374 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: just want to let you know what's going on. That's that. 375 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Ted Minnesota twenty Hyundai Tucson and 376 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: see what's going on here. Welcome Ted, How can I help? 377 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 378 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: Hi, yeah, my daughter has a twenty twenty Hunday and 379 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: it was under just underd one hundred thousand miles. It's 380 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: probably one hundred and five dollars that it's been burning 381 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: a court of oil every four hundred miles. Okay, it's 382 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: been doing it for some time. And uh, well, you 383 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: know she typically doesn't didn't even check her on use. 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: She's doing it now. But what what what would you 385 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 3: recommend for recourse? You really get ytal service department, You 386 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: get the run around, yep. 387 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: So, and it kind of doesn't matter what engine. But 388 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: just for my own knowledge, sake two liter, two point 389 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 2: four liter? Which one? There's only two four cylinders available 390 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 2: for that, do yeppen to know? 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but there's a rash of them. And 392 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: they said it's because allegedly they used a softer ring. Yep, 393 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: he can. It would improve the gas mile as well. 394 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: So let me let me tell you how bad this 395 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 2: oil consumption is with Hyundai's right, you know, they say 396 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: the most analyzed book in the world is the Bible right, 397 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: and it's it's it's it's analyzed from every possible perspective. 398 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: My god, where's Ron going with this? On an order 399 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: repair show? Go get your hands on Hyundai Technical Bulletin 400 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: twenty three dash emsh double oh eight twenty three dash 401 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: em Edward MARYSHM zero zero eight h is and Harry 402 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 2: zero zero eight eight the number eight eight eight H 403 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: double O double oh eight H double oh eight Harry 404 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: right quickly if you don't mind, sure twenty three go. 405 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: Ahead two three dash em dash zero zero eight h. 406 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, sir. Dated December of twenty twenty three. That 407 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: bulletin is you know. When I read that bulletin, I said, 408 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: my god, they have analyzed oil consumption like everybody analyzes 409 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 2: the Bible, which I think is a great book by 410 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: the way, right, they explain every possible scenario, factual existence, 411 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: check this, check that, here's what you have to do, 412 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: here's the reason why, and it covers all engines. It's hysterical. 413 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: It's like Hyundai admitting, you know, we got this problem, 414 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: and you know it's it's just it's just an amazing read. 415 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: And to me, I would walk into the Hundaid dealer 416 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: and say, how can you tell me you don't have 417 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: a problem when this bulletin is in existence. That's my 418 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: question because understand what it takes to write a bulletin. 419 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: It's not just somebody, Hey, write a bullet you know 420 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: he listen, ted, could you write this bulletin about oil consumption? 421 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: And you take a bunch of notes. You know, the 422 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: bulletin gets written, It gets analyzed for mechanical and statistical 423 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: you know, accuracy, It gets run through legal, it gets 424 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 2: run by every department head to be approved. You know. 425 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 2: It's not Hey, we're gonna make a bulletin about this, 426 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: and you know everybody has to sign off on it, right, 427 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: so for them to put a bulletin out takes a 428 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: lot of effort. All right, Hyundai's have an engine problem, 429 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: They just do right. I have friends that work in 430 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: hundaid dealerships. They all tell me the same thing. It's 431 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: a great five year car. And you know I just 432 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: after that, you say, hmmm. I would talk to Hundai Corporate. 433 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: I would ask them, hey, is this vehicle subject to 434 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: any problems? And see what kind of answer you get then, 435 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: because I bet you get a different answer all right, 436 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: And you know, you go buy any Hundaid dealer if 437 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: you ever notice, if you look out back, they've always 438 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: got a bunch of cars out there, you know that 439 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: look like they have the engine out And the reason 440 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: is because they probably do. Because the average Hundaid dealership 441 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: the last time I checked, was two and a half 442 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: three months backlog doing engines. Oh wow, Oh yeah, so 443 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: this is not this is not an impossibility. All right. 444 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: They've gotten better over time. Two years ago, I would 445 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: have told you it was a four month backlog, all right. 446 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: But but Hyundai has had such engine problems. I'm stunned 447 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: the company is still in business. It boggles my mind. 448 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: And if you raise your voice loud enough and get 449 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: to the right person in corporate, they will accommodate you. 450 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: And I would not be surprised if they give her 451 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: a complete engine for free. I'm not promising, but I'm 452 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: just saying. It pays to make a stink, all right. 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: She she might be asked, she might be asked for, 454 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: you know, oil change records, all right? Did she did? 455 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: She happen to use the dealership for her oil change services? 456 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 3: She bought the cutter new in Oklahoma City and she 457 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: always had it serviced by a private mechanic there. 458 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, does she have records? Does she have records of that? 459 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 2: Wou Yeah, decent records. And then when she you know, 460 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: is she is? 461 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: She? 462 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: Is she in Minnesota, she's in Oklahoma City. 463 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: Well, now she's in Minnesota. She's actually teaching at Annunciation School. Okay, 464 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: familiar with that, right? 465 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? So is she does she have service records 466 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: of you know, currently you know. What I'm trying to 467 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: say is she should be changing the oil at a 468 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: minimum every five months five thousand miles? 469 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and she's always done that, and I've always 470 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: encouraged the kids to close three thousand right insurance? Right? 471 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: And does she have copies of that? And she can 472 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: provide some form of Hey, I serviced it within reason. 473 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: It's not it's and the conversation Ted has to go, Hey, 474 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: you know, listen, I'm not making an unreasonable request. We purchased, 475 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: we purchased a vehicle new, we serviced it within reason. 476 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: You know, is there a couple of oil changes where 477 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: we went seven thousand instead of five thousand? Maybe? Is 478 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 2: there a couple of oil changes where we went three 479 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: thousand instead of five thousand. Sure, all right, but you 480 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: can't tell me that two longer oil changes or four 481 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: longer oil changes in the one hundred thousand life cycle 482 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: of a vehicle makes it burn oil at one hundred 483 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: thousand miles. That's that's that's the argument, all right. 484 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: She was averaging one hundred and fifty miles a day 485 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 3: or all last year, right, she was, you know, relocating. 486 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 2: Is is there any documentation that before it hit one 487 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 2: hundred thousand mile market went into a dealership service department 488 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: with an oil consumption complaint? 489 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: No? No, it's you know, she's very independent girl. She's 490 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: a single woman, and she's been on her own. And 491 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: when she comes up every once in a while, I 492 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 3: always make a point I have pop all the hoods 493 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: done for all the kids, right yep. And I noticed, 494 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: my god, you know, she was down you know, the 495 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: court and a half two courts. 496 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: Okay, So then the argument becomes, Then the argument becomes 497 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: and then I gotta go, brother, But the argument becomes, 498 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: doesn't this car didn't this car have a ten year, 499 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand mile engine warranty? 500 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 501 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: And it did, Yeah it did. Right, So here you 502 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: are at one hundred and four thousand. Now, I can't 503 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: prove it to you, mister Hyundai Corporate, But we really 504 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: started to notice this problem in the mid nineties and 505 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: it just took us a while to figure it out. 506 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: And then we realized, you don't tell him. Hey, we 507 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 2: called the Car Doctor radio show and this is what 508 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: Ron told us, and he made us aware of this bulletin, 509 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: and he made us aware of the condition and the 510 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: problems that you're having. So can't we solve this to 511 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: be and reasonably and conduct business at some sort of 512 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: a human level. See how they react to that? 513 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: Okay online? 514 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think corporate offices are in California and they'll 515 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: probably open a case. They're going to call it a 516 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: corporate case. They'll open a case, and I'll be shocked 517 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: if they don't do something for you, Ted, I really would, 518 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: because everybody that I sent, let me put it to 519 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: you this way, I've never put an engine in a Hundai. 520 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: You know why, because every time I find a bad one, 521 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: Hundai does it for them. And you know I've never 522 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: and I've I've found more than a few. It got 523 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: to the point where the local and I tell this 524 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: story all the time, the local Hundai dealer here in 525 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: North Jersey. I knew Bruce on a first name basis. 526 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: I call him up, Hey, Bruce, how's it going? You know, 527 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: like he was my best buddy. We were at the 528 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: bar having alcohol, adult beverages. Okay. I wouldn't know what 529 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: Bruce looked like if he was standing next to me 530 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: on the subway, all right, and he would tell me 531 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 2: his life story. I knew everything that was going on 532 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: in that dealership about you know, how they couldn't get 533 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: cars to stay together with engines. And unfortunately he's not 534 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: there anymore because he got so burnt out doing you know, 535 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: so many engines, thirty five engines a month. He was like, 536 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I think he's think he's 537 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: painting houses. He's looking for a simpler life. But just 538 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: know that, yeah, you are in the right that it's 539 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: not unreasonable. Get your hands on that bulletin, read it 540 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: and there's your proof. Good luck to you, Ted, and 541 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: tell your daughter best of luck. I'm running any in 542 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: the car. Doctor. We are back right after this. Welcome back. 543 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike and Michigan. A lot of Michigan today. 544 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: Sixteen Chevy Tahoe Mike, what's going on? 545 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 8: Hey, Ron, thanks for taking the time. My dad and 546 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 8: I last weekend drove from Michigan to southern Arkansas to 547 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 8: pick up a new to US twenty sixteen Tahoe. Wanted 548 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 8: one that didn't live habits life in the Michigan Salt 549 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 8: and on the way home, I noticed the transmission temperature 550 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 8: was running at one hundred and ninety six degrees, which, 551 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 8: for being temperatures outside in the single digits to team, 552 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 8: seemed awful warm to me. I called my dad, who 553 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 8: was driving in a twenty thirteen avalanche ahead of me 554 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 8: with the same six L eighty transmission in it, and 555 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 8: his temperature was running about one hundred and fifteen degrees. 556 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 8: We thought we'd got Taho with a bad transmission or 557 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 8: a problem. Doing some research, we found that in twenty fourteen, 558 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 8: GM started putting a thermal bypass valve on this transmission 559 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 8: to not let fluid reach the cooler until it reaches 560 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 8: one hundred and ninety five degrees. 561 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 5: Well, I wanted your thoughts. 562 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 8: On utting, because there's all kinds of We have three options. 563 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: There's an aftermarket kit to bypass this thing and just 564 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 8: let the fluid go right to the cooler like they 565 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 8: always have in the past, or leave it alone truck 566 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 8: the GM engineers and let it run at a nine 567 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 8: one hundred and ninety five degrees, or do a middle 568 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 8: row what it looks like there's you can get one 569 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 8: of these things for the thermostat that might do one 570 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 8: hundred and fifty five or something like that. 571 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 5: I just wanted your thoughts on this. 572 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: You know, were you at were you the guy at 573 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: the shop two weeks ago when we were having lunch 574 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: and the trans guys stopped by, and my GM guys 575 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: stopped by, and we were all sitting there having I 576 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: swear to god, we had this conversation because we were 577 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: all running around the room well you know, and for 578 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: the life of us, and I'm talking season GM techs, 579 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: seasoned TRANS guys, general independent mechanics like us, we can't 580 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: figure out why they're running trans tempt so high because 581 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, one of the first things they teach you 582 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: is death temperature is death to transmission fluid. And you know, 583 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: where's the logic in this? So I kind of like 584 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: the middle of the road thing. I like the one 585 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five you know, bypass thermostat because it's 586 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: it's not going to be too cold, it's not going 587 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: to be too hot, and I'm going to monitor I'm 588 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: going to monitor fluid, you know, quality and quantity and degradation, 589 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: and you know, how does it fall apart because uh, 590 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: you know, I think there'd be issues with too cold. 591 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 2: It might shorten the life of the converter. And I'm 592 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: more worried about the converter than anything else in that 593 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: trans all right. If GM has a trans problem, it's 594 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: in the converters. Yeah, yeah, they've they've got some issues 595 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: with you know, the clutch packs and the bands and 596 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: so forth. But it's it's the converters, the torque converters 597 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: that tend to get beat up more than anything. So 598 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 2: I like a little bit of heat. I like one 599 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty degree range, you know, I think to 600 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: completely bypass it. I'm not sure what the GM engineers 601 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: were thinking. I'm thinking, quite honestly, as I said at 602 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: the meeting we had at lunch that day and it 603 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: just kind of worked out that way. Everybody kind of 604 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: stopped by the shop to say, hey, I said, well, 605 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: this must be because God must be doing something to 606 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: get everybody together. I'm thinking they're thinking fuel economy because 607 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: it can't be longevity. 608 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 7: There's there's because I've never heard of being too cold 609 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 7: of a fluid to all the transmission, but certainly too 610 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 7: hot a temperatures can kill a transmit, right. 611 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: You know, I typically see when I plow with the truck, 612 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: my plow truck by twenty two, which is a six speed, 613 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: all right, I will watch I will watch trans temperature 614 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: and you know it starts working hard. I get up 615 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 2: to you know, that one hundred and ninety two hundred 616 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: degree range, and you know I worry about it, but 617 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: I go, well, I you know, there's not much I 618 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: can do about it. I haven't really stopped to think 619 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 2: about putting a bypass in there, but I tend to. 620 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, the truck's got ten thousand miles on it. 621 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: I probably won't have the truck at fifty you know, 622 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: I won't have it when it when it gets older. 623 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: So if you're looking for you know, longevity, I think 624 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 2: you do have to do something. But my point is 625 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: I will also look at trans temp on some of 626 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: my other older GM vehicles without this thermal bypass. I 627 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: see average trans temp in that one forty to one 628 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: sixty range one sixty five range. So I just think 629 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: that extra thirty degrees is too much. 630 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 8: And yeah, that's what I've always been accustomed to, is 631 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 8: the temperatures you're talking about right there. That's why I 632 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 8: was just it shocked me that it was one hundred 633 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 8: and ninety five degree trans temperature when the ad being 634 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 8: temperature within the single digits. 635 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: I didn't like that because what happens when. 636 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 8: You get in the summer stop and go traffic type situations, 637 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 8: you don't have much of a buffer to get up 638 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 8: to what do you consider dangerous transmission temperature. 639 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: Over to twenty. 640 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 641 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 8: See, we're pretty close to two twenty before they even 642 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 8: have a chance to get to the cooler. 643 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: Right, wait on July, so you know when July. Well, 644 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: just remember this. And I'm gonna get a lot of 645 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 2: heat for this one, Mike, but I'll say it in 646 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: this case, remember what GM stands for Giant mistakes. I 647 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: think they made one eight five five five six o 648 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero. Appreciate the call, Mike. I'm coming 649 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: back right after this. Hey, So as we wind it 650 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 2: down this hour, remember last week I talked to you 651 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: about first brands. Remember the the parts conglomeration, the company 652 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: that was the overseer for Move go Out to light Ray, 653 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: Besta's first Break, Breaks First to whatever it was, and 654 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: so much of the automotive aftermarket names that we've come 655 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: to know and trust and value for the past seventy 656 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: five to eighty years, and how certain brands are going away, 657 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: the companies in bankruptcy. It was in the news that 658 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 2: the founder, Patrick James and his brother vice president Ed 659 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: have been indicted in Manhattan, New York, federal court for 660 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: defrauding lenders out of billions of dollars. Well, that's the 661 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: financial impact, right, And last week I mentioned to you 662 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: that you might see some parts issues and how that 663 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: could affect the supply chain. I called up some of 664 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 2: my supply houses this week and I talked to the 665 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 2: guys that are on the line first, first and foremost. 666 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: They're seeing this every day. Yeah, there's a problem. There's 667 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: a real problem. Break calipers or an issue cardon is gone. 668 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: All right, a one cardone out of Philadelphia. They've been 669 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: there for I mean before the war. You know, started 670 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: as a starter rebuilder back in the twenties, and they're gone. 671 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 2: The company has gone. Part of the first Brands Group default. 672 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: But there's certain things that finding Ron was telling me, 673 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: my guy at one of my parts houses, there's certain 674 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: things they can't get. You can't buy a twenty two 675 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: inch wiper blade in some cases because you know, First 676 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: Brands was involved with Trico, which is on the verge, 677 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: and they made a lot of the twenty two inch 678 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: blades for a lot of manufacturers under different names, Bosh Motorcraft, 679 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: you know Trico. Obviously, funny things like that. They were 680 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: having a sales meeting. He had just come out of 681 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: five minutes before. I called him midweek last week and 682 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: he was telling me how they were discussing this, that 683 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: they have huge holes in their product lines that they're 684 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: trying to fill from places that don't exist yet. Is 685 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: things like the First Brand's default a matter of national security. 686 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: We can't get autoparts, we can't move cars, we can't 687 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: fix cars. Something to think about. More to come. We'll continue. 688 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: I'm running ady in the car doctor. Remember good mechanics 689 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: aren't expensive, They're priceless. See Yu Doctor Car Advice to 690 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: ride