Speaker 1: Drama in real life? What would you do? It's one
Speaker 1: more thing.
Speaker 2: I'm strong and one more thing.
Speaker 3: Number one duck's quack but doing a sexy duck dance.
Speaker 3: I don't want video that existing.
Speaker 1: I went to the State Fair hypnotist. I'll tell that
Speaker 1: story here in just a little bit, and I just
Speaker 1: have a question for it. But first this, as I
Speaker 1: promised on the radio show, I called nine to one
Speaker 1: one on somebody yesterday. And I can't figure out time
Speaker 1: and place different than what I grew up with many
Speaker 1: many years. Different time, different era, different part of the country,
Speaker 1: different kind of town. But I've seen multiple things happen
Speaker 1: where back in my day there would have been a
Speaker 1: line of men to deal with it, and they're no
Speaker 1: longer are and I again, time and place. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's changed everywhere or it's just because I
Speaker 1: live somewhere different. I grew up in the rural Midwest.
Speaker 1: But this particular story. Yesterday, I go to the gym
Speaker 1: and I'm going to work out and so hot, I
Speaker 1: actually drove to the gym instead of walking there, and
Speaker 1: I get out of my car and I hear this
Speaker 1: screeching as I'm walking toward the gym and this gym,
Speaker 1: there's a gym, there's a pool, there are tennis courts,
Speaker 1: it's a little compound area, a little lake, and it's
Speaker 1: a country club, is what it is. I hear this screeching,
Speaker 1: and I thought, is that a dog?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: As I got closer, I thought it's a human. And
Speaker 1: then it became more and more clear to me. As
Speaker 1: I got closer. It sounded like an angry human, and
Speaker 1: I thought, what could this possibly be? I walk up
Speaker 1: closer and it's some guy, guy like I don't know
Speaker 1: how it was mid fifties tank top screaming at his
Speaker 1: wife at the top of his lungs. She's sitting down,
Speaker 1: he's in her face, like nos, right right next to
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's his wife. I was just
Speaker 1: assuming wife or girlfriend companion screaming at her. We're fucking going,
Speaker 1: We're fucking going now. You hear me pounding the table
Speaker 1: like right next to her, and she jumps. She's clearly
Speaker 1: physically afraid of him and just screaming, just like berserk.
Speaker 1: And I thought, and there's people about, like nobody close,
Speaker 1: but there are people other people that are hearing it,
Speaker 1: and everybody else is just pretending they don't hear it.
Speaker 2: And I thought, this guy looks.
Speaker 1: Like he's a quarter of a second away from punching
Speaker 1: this woman in the face, and she's clearly scared to death.
Speaker 2: Why is nobody paying any.
Speaker 1: Attention to this? Anyway, I walk, I have to go
Speaker 1: buy him to get to the gym. Anyway, I walk
Speaker 1: up there, and I kind of go around the corner
Speaker 1: and I'm standing by this bush where he can't see me,
Speaker 1: and this guy is clearly close to snapping, and I
Speaker 1: dial up nine one one and tell him in hush tones,
Speaker 1: what's going on. I said, you got to get somebody
Speaker 1: here right right away, because this is going to turn this.
Speaker 1: I said, I might be fighting this guy before he
Speaker 1: get here, and because I thought, if he lays a
Speaker 1: hand on her, I can't let this freaking old fat
Speaker 1: dude beat up his wife and me and and anyway,
Speaker 1: long and short of it, my point to this story
Speaker 1: was when I was younger, different time, different place, I
Speaker 1: know so many guys that not only to do the
Speaker 1: right thing, would have intervened like before, not just call
Speaker 1: nine one one. They'd have walked up and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you're clearly scaring the woman. What is going on here.
Speaker 1: But I know so many guys that would have thought cool,
Speaker 1: a chance to fight somebody. That is not my fault.
Speaker 1: This is an opportunity. I've known so many dudes like
Speaker 1: that in my life. They were thought, this is awesome,
Speaker 1: I get to fight a guy and it's justified.
Speaker 2: Where have those people gone?
Speaker 1: Was a different era, different part of the country, cell phones, litigation,
Speaker 1: the whole be sensitized.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, partly, and yes, yeah, I think there are
Speaker 3: a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1: There's not a chance that could have happened, like when
Speaker 1: I was a twenty one year old. Not a chance
Speaker 1: that happens in public without five guys who are ready
Speaker 1: to fight that dude immediately.
Speaker 2: Not a chance.
Speaker 1: And now everybody's just kind of looking at my phone
Speaker 1: pretending I don't hear some guy who clearly is on
Speaker 1: the verge of violence. Nobody's doing nothing. That just seems
Speaker 1: nuts to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, that's a tough one. I don't I can't
Speaker 3: even picture that happening in my child.
Speaker 1: She was so thankful afterwards that I called the police.
Speaker 1: After the police got there and everything was dealt with
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But it's wild, like everybody's just
Speaker 1: gonna pretend this and like go in the room and like,
Speaker 1: if he beats the crap out of her out here,
Speaker 1: I guess that's his her fault for being in a
Speaker 1: relationship with them or something. I don't know what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'd have a lot of different
Speaker 3: opinions on whether it be right in or seed. There
Speaker 3: hasn't been violence yet. You know, he's screaming me.
Speaker 1: I was clearly scared to death. Yeah, obviously scared to
Speaker 1: death and should have been. He was a guy completely
Speaker 1: out of controlled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: And then one of the workers came up to me
Speaker 1: and I like, I thought, well, where were you? You're
Speaker 1: a young, strong male, why were you hiding around the corner?
Speaker 1: But he said, yeah, the guy drank like fifteen beers
Speaker 1: this afternoon out on the patio at the band. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know he's a drunk guy. So you have
Speaker 1: even more information than I have.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow. I was thinking about this in reference to
Speaker 3: the absolutely horrific shooting as we're recording this just a
Speaker 3: day ago, day and a half ago in Idaho at
Speaker 3: the In and Out Burger, and some of the videotapes
Speaker 3: that have surfaced of people who are in the area,
Speaker 3: of course with their phone up, you know, recording it.
Speaker 3: And the comments were at least in the one I
Speaker 3: saw a young fella saying, essentially, people are running. Look
Speaker 3: they're running, man. That guy's shooting. Look at him shooting. Wow,
Speaker 3: And I think, wow, have part of what's going on here?
Speaker 3: And I don't know your specific situation. It's hard to
Speaker 3: judge this. I was there. But this gets back to
Speaker 3: my frequently expressed theme that it used to be virtually
Speaker 3: all of our experience was personal experience. We saw it,
Speaker 3: we heard it, we experienced it, we shook the hand
Speaker 3: of the person involved, or threw a punch. It was
Speaker 3: personal experience, with a little media that creeps in around
Speaker 3: the edges. Look, honey, as you flip through the morning newspaper,
Speaker 3: you know something happened in New York. But now, especially
Speaker 3: given how online people are, the ratio of like media
Speaker 3: filtered experience or media provided experience versus personal experience has
Speaker 3: gotten flipped completely upside down and outrageous breaks through, breaks
Speaker 3: through the algorithms, and violent and crazy. Hell, I've gotten
Speaker 3: pulled down into the rabbit hole. And I'm like anti
Speaker 3: rabbit hole guy. If I even sense myself like I'm
Speaker 3: that third YouTube video starts, I'm mister wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing, and I turn it off.
Speaker 3: I've gotten pulled into dumb asses fighting each other in
Speaker 3: McDonald's wormholes or you know, fast food restaurants. So anyway,
Speaker 3: you combine the fact that people no longer differentiate between
Speaker 3: their actual experience and what they've seen online, and the
Speaker 3: fact that outrageous has become routine. Oh and there's another
Speaker 3: aspect of this too that flitted into my head and
Speaker 3: flitted out again. It'll probably pack pop back in. Eventually.
Speaker 3: People witness something in real life and they relate to
Speaker 3: oh oh how people will say just vicious things behind
Speaker 3: their keyboards, whether to us or other people online or whatever.
Speaker 3: And then if you say, hey, I found that really hurtful.
Speaker 3: That was overlining, and they immediately back down. So you've
Speaker 3: got this. People no longer appreciate real life for real life,
Speaker 3: it's just another video. What they experience themselves is just
Speaker 3: another video in their feed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think that some of that is it
Speaker 1: gets harder to separate in your mind another TikTok video
Speaker 1: versus this is actually happening near.
Speaker 3: You, right, or what to do about it, or how
Speaker 3: aberrant it is or how outrageous it is, you have
Speaker 3: to reset.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, because the proof of that is so I
Speaker 1: was leaning towards some sort of I don't know, lack
Speaker 1: of manliness that's going on, or what's right and wrong that.
Speaker 2: Sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: But then how about calling nine one One's a pretty
Speaker 1: passive way to deal with it. You're over there by
Speaker 1: the pool, looking at your magazine, You're seeing what's happening. Clearly,
Speaker 1: this could go crazy any half second. You won't even
Speaker 1: call nine to one one when you don't even have
Speaker 1: to get involved, right, Because I was the only person
Speaker 1: to call, and again she was really really thankful, and
Speaker 1: so were the cops.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's disturbing, no doubt. Yea.
Speaker 1: I know people now here in this time and place
Speaker 1: that if they had been there, they would punch that
Speaker 1: guy in the face, guarantee.
Speaker 3: I'm playing around with this idea just because I want
Speaker 3: to get a grasp of it. I mean, this is
Speaker 3: a stupid and mundane example. I played golf yesterday. If
Speaker 3: I constantly watched videos of people cheating at golf, and
Speaker 3: then somebody cheated like in the game I'm playing the
Speaker 3: group I'm playing in, it would probably strike me as
Speaker 3: a lot less outrageous than in real life. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to come up with a good example.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the best examples is that study that
Speaker 1: came out years ago about first person shooter video games.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and just rewires your brain. So maybe our
Speaker 1: brains are rewired about I mean, because the first time
Speaker 1: we ever saw a fight in a McDonald's video, Try
Speaker 1: to remember that you'd never seen before. I'd never seen
Speaker 1: one before. First time you see one before, it kind
Speaker 1: of gets you amped up. I mean, it's like disturbing, right, Well,
Speaker 1: it's not disturbing anymore because you've seen in entertainment, right,
Speaker 1: So something changed in the wiring of your brain about
Speaker 1: about witnessing that level of human on human.
Speaker 3: Violence, right right, which.
Speaker 1: Of course transfers into real life, I guess clearly.
Speaker 3: So now, yeah, these are odd times, can survive them.
Speaker 1: Another thing to bring up on this, and this is
Speaker 1: not complaining about the police. If we all want quicker
Speaker 1: response times from police, then we need to fund it
Speaker 1: at a much higher level. But what's the old saying,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: When seconds count to police are minutes away?
Speaker 1: It was I don't know how long, but it at
Speaker 1: least five minutes. And I thought, if I had been
Speaker 1: fighting this guy, five minutes is a long time.
Speaker 3: Oh, you fight yourself to exhaustion, path fight again.
Speaker 1: So it would have ended one way or the other
Speaker 1: by the time the police got there. In five minutes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, it's just a really good response
Speaker 3: time too.
Speaker 1: And it might have been longer than that. It might
Speaker 1: have been ten minutes.
Speaker 3: I don't know yet.
Speaker 2: Actually it had to.
Speaker 1: Be ten minutes because I went in and I kept
Speaker 1: an eye on it, and I went closer to the gym,
Speaker 1: and I did a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Bl blah blah.
Speaker 1: I kept coming back over and because he wandered off
Speaker 1: for a while, then came back started screaming at her
Speaker 1: some more. But yees, so it had to be more
Speaker 1: like ten minutes or so. But I'm not blaming the police.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: If we want immediate response time, we need to fund
Speaker 1: it at a very high level. But I think unless
Speaker 1: you're ever in one of those situations, you kind of
Speaker 1: have in your mind that when there's a heart attack
Speaker 1: or a fight or something happens, you call the police in.
Speaker 1: Theyre there instantly. They are not so you might have.
Speaker 1: I got to deal with this mindset whenever anything's happening.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to deal with this myself.
Speaker 3: Learn CPR and jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1: Just in case. I mean, I'm, you know, to take
Speaker 1: a very I'm not Superman in this thing. I'm willing
Speaker 1: to jump in with a probably drunk, fat guy roughly
Speaker 1: my age. So it's not like I'm.
Speaker 3: It's not like you're fighting a lion. A woman was
Speaker 3: being mauled by a lion right in my town.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right. I can't believe you didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do the right path.
Speaker 4: Jack, film it, post it online and then rake in
Speaker 4: all the money and get famous for it, and then
Speaker 4: show up everywhere and talk about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I could do funny captions or funny voiceovers like the
Speaker 3: famous Hitler video tape having to be a coach screaming
Speaker 3: at his quarterback, or one hundred different variations. Yeah, become
Speaker 3: an influencer.
Speaker 2: Could have been famous.
Speaker 1: Could have mentioned Armstrong and Getty, Hey, Armstrong and Getty
Speaker 1: like fights, put the camera on him, heard weekdays.
Speaker 4: Could have sold some T shirts and Armstrong Getty dot com.
Speaker 2: I guess that's it.