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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're on. Welcome to the June twenty sixth

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Speaker 2: episode of Media to Radio Live. It's eleven o'clock here

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Speaker 2: in Bozeman, Montana. It's eight o'clock eight pm for Steve,

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Speaker 2: who's currently in Tanzania, Africa. My kid's got a MOA's

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Speaker 2: lawn tomorrow for him. I'm your host, Brody Henderson, and

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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Seth Morris and Corey Calkins. Today we're

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Speaker 2: gonna chat with a Vermont Forrester about logging and shooting.

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Speaker 2: Wait till doze. Then we're gonna do a little public

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Speaker 2: lands throwback Thursday, and we're gonna follow that up with

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Speaker 2: some regional fishing reports and a first ever meat Eater

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Speaker 2: live at fishing tournament between Seth and Corey. You guys nervous?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm not at all.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't be. No, it's just gonna this is like

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Speaker 2: like just trail breaking stuff here. That what you guys

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Speaker 2: are gonna do today.

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Speaker 3: Someone's ever done.

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Speaker 4: I'd be nervous if I was a fish in that

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Speaker 4: pond right now.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: They don't know what's coming.

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Speaker 2: Unlass. We're gonna finish everything up with a funny trailcam

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Speaker 2: photo contest, which should be really really cool to look at. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Before we get get to all that, we're gonna do

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Speaker 2: a little chit chat like we usually do. What do

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Speaker 2: you guys went up to?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I got a quick question, how well does Steve pay

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Speaker 4: your kids for mowing this lawn?

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Speaker 2: That was unclear? I asked, asked my kid, like, what

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Speaker 2: did he tell you were getting? He's like, he didn't

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Speaker 2: say anything. Mmmm, so it might be based, it might

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Speaker 2: be performance based pay.

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Speaker 4: We'll see, well naturally, Yeah, what he's gone for a while.

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Speaker 2: But then I found out he's got to bag up

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Speaker 2: a bunch of grass because Steve needs to like mulch

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Speaker 2: his potatoes or something.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's I hope he charges extra for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. So, yeah, we got to go over

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Speaker 2: there and do that.

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Speaker 3: See what your what your boy needs to do is

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Speaker 3: just give him an invoice. I know, don't don't like,

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Speaker 3: let Steve set the price.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Seth, you're about to go on a really long

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Speaker 2: plane ride.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm heading to where Steve's at right now Tanzania

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Speaker 3: tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know how many hours exactly, like thirty

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Speaker 3: thirty some hours to travel.

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Speaker 2: Where's it? Where are your stopovers?

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Speaker 3: Minneapolis, Amsterdam, kil Minjaro.

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Speaker 2: That's not so bad.

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Speaker 3: It's like, uh whatever, from here to Minneapolis is what

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Speaker 3: to and some change. Then it's eight hours, nine hours,

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Speaker 3: and then I think there's some little type of bush

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Speaker 3: plane flight we take into where we're going to be.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I can We'll see you at the end of

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Speaker 2: the summer.

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Speaker 3: I'll yeah, yeah, gone all summer.

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Speaker 4: That'll be an adventure.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You guys have to do some fishing for me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're heading out this week and we're going after

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Speaker 2: some walleye purchase.

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Speaker 3: We just don't send me any photos because I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'll be jealous.

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Speaker 2: Seth would rather see a picture of a big walleye

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Speaker 2: than like a lion or a dram Yeah, that's true story.

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Speaker 2: Corey been doing anything.

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Speaker 4: Fun, lots of fishing and camping, trying to get my

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Speaker 2: I saw that video of him hauling in a trout. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not too long ago. That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yep, he's pretty hooked.

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Speaker 4: Now we got him echos Gecko. It's this little kid's

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Speaker 4: flyer out. It's got a little fighting butt, fiberglass, four weight,

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Speaker 4: super easy for the kids to cast. High recommend it

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Speaker 4: And it just makes anybody a professional angler.

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Speaker 4: I was shocked that it could land these super heavy, stout,

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Speaker 2: Bendy fiberglass rod.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very easy to fight.

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Speaker 2: You can use it today in the tournament.

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Speaker 4: You should, I should, But no, I got my kid's

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Speaker 4: other rod. Actually, I'm just a little seven foot seven

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Speaker 2: Trick, Philt. We got our interviewee ready to go.

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Speaker 5: He is in the waiting room. Yeah, he's ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's talk. Uh, let's talk logging and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring him in.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Today we're joined by a former met Eater podcast guest,

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Speaker 2: Mike's Mike Snyder. Mike served twelve years as the commissioner

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Speaker 2: of Vermont's Department of Forest, Parks and Recreation and also

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Speaker 2: as State for Forrester. Today is the owner of Green

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Speaker 2: Fire Enterprises, which is an operation that consults on forrest conservation,

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Speaker 2: wrote woods Wise, an expiration of forest and forestry. So, Mike,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Man, happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: Like your shirt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, apport shirt for here.

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Speaker 1: We had to wrap today for that, chefs. Good to

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Speaker 1: see you again. Last time we chatted we were comparing

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Speaker 1: notes on the old dendrology class.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Right on, Mike, Just in case anyone missed the podcast

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Speaker 2: that you were on, can you give us just a

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Speaker 2: brief rundown of your experience in the field of forestry

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Speaker 2: and then we'll move on to some current events stuff.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, I'm a forester. I live here in Vermont.

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Speaker 1: I've been practicing forestry now just forty years here in

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Speaker 1: a variety of capacities over time for science forest management,

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Speaker 1: start working with private landowners, and then, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: I was tapped to philip role as Commissioner of the

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Speaker 1: Department of Forest, Parks and Recreation, working closely with the

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago I stepped down from that and

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Speaker 1: have gone back into private practice with my company Green

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Speaker 1: Fire as you say, consulting in a variety of forestry, conservation,

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Speaker 1: everything I've ever done has been related to the woods

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Speaker 2: So, like, for all those city folks out there, like,

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Speaker 2: what does a forester do? Is it just like looking

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Speaker 2: Like just like what like say as the state for well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question because there is a lot

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Speaker 1: of it seems overtime definitely learned that there's misconceptions. There's

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Speaker 1: but the sort of boots on the ground, as you

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Speaker 1: describe the basic field forester is as you say, it's

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Speaker 1: One good analogy I would I would draw that's very helpful,

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Speaker 1: I think is it's rough, but it's reasonable. Particularly where

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Speaker 1: describe it. Foresters are responsible to the landowner and to

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Speaker 1: trying to hold it all together. And you know, forest

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Speaker 1: health is the root of it, but also the practical

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Speaker 1: an enormous amount of wood products, a wild range of

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Speaker 1: really know it. And foresters that's the core of what

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Speaker 2: Cool. Well, since you're a forester, and I'm assuming you

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Speaker 2: worked with a lot of logging operations, so like we've established,

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on the recent repeal of the roadless

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Speaker 2: up tens of millions of acres of national forests a logging.

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Speaker 2: There's definitely, like I believe, some legitimate concerns around this

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Speaker 2: millions of people. But the logging part, it's not so

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Speaker 2: it's national forest, like every single acre of it should

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Speaker 2: like that's legitimate too, So like give us your perspective

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot too much. So we've got a

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Speaker 1: They just don't do that. And so here where we're

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Speaker 1: There's not there's no reason to think that's ever going

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Speaker 1: And and that's where forestry comes in, and that's where

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Speaker 1: we have to start thinking with with public lands national forests.

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Speaker 1: The intent is very clear for this multi use mandate

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Speaker 1: uh and for wood supply.

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Speaker 1: And so then we just further get into like, well,

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Speaker 2: We had plenty of time there, We had plenty of time.

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Speaker 2: Vermont recently expanded dough hunt hunting opportunities in order to

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Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of states go this route in

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, you nailed it, and this is it's so Vermont.

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Speaker 1: As of now, we have antlerless you know, with archery,

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Speaker 1: Now they have this these deer density targets for various

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Speaker 2: So is it not a done deal yet?

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Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm trying to say. This is the

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Speaker 2: Has has Vermont experienced like is there deer herd? Like

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Speaker 2: too many. I mean too many is obviously, you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's amazing, right, this is a small state. You

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Speaker 1: And yet even here we have wide ranging habitat conditions

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Speaker 1: Locally over abundant leading to significant over browsing, which is

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, myself, I hope it goes through. I think

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like you say, it's contentious

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, Uh, I understand that that you're going

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Speaker 2: What are you going after? Deer?

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Speaker 2: Are you going? You're doing this on your own? Are

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Speaker 3: This?

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. And you rightly called it a hunt

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's the The Bob is a super

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Speaker 2: it for you, I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we see it is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm gonna be ready. It's this is super motivating, right,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, depending on what end of the wilderness you're in.

437
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: The area I was in, our average shot was sixty

438
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 4: to eighty yards with a rifle.

439
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking.

440
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 4: Because we're hunting in during the rut, as you know,

441
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 4: so right, yeah.

442
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: This is just so I don't know if I dropped

443
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: that to somebody. I'm really glad you brought it up.

444
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: It's just like you can imagine my excitement, right yep.

445
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: Well, Mike, thanks for thanks for checking in with us,

446
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: and good luck on that hunt.

447
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck, Mike.

448
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, take care, take it easy.

449
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: Man.

450
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: Unless you've been living under a rock and like Senator

451
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: Mike Lee's backyard, you probably know what's going on with

452
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 2: his attempts to sell off our public lands. It's like

453
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: ever changing it. So there's been like three different versions

454
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 2: of it this week, but it's still he's still going

455
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: after that stuff. But just in case you're not aware

456
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: of what's going on, like, hop on our website, read

457
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: the article, follow Cal on Instagram, and he'll keep you

458
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: up to date. But it just to show people like

459
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: how important this stuff is and what's at stake, Me

460
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: and the boys here are going to remind you about

461
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: it and share some of our favorite public land hunting.

462
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: Did you guys do fish any fishing or just hunting?

463
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 3: I just did hunting slash.

464
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yours through a little twist, a little little

465
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: hike and bike and kind of stuff.

466
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: Hiking, Ye, not a bike, gotcha.

467
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're gonna share some pictures and tell a little

468
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: story and kind of let you know why public lands

469
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: are important to us. Corey, since since you're not a

470
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: hunter anymore, why don't you start off?

471
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna throw this all the way back to

472
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: last n I.

473
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: Screw up there Phil by having Cory go first.

474
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: Probably, Oh no, it's fine. I can. I can change

475
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: things on the fly.

476
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: It's all right.

477
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 4: It feels like a chameleon. He can adapt. H Anyway,

478
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw this all the way back to last week, last.

479
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: Wednesday, long time ago.

480
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

481
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: A few colleagues and myself teamed up with the Station Foundation,

482
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: which is an amazing organization made up of Special Operations

483
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 4: vets and other highly trained professionals that help transition our

484
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 4: nation special ops forces and their families get back to

485
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 4: normal civilian life, which includes a multi day retreat here

486
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: in Montana, which includes one day of high making this

487
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 4: ten thousand foot peak just south of Bozeman, So three

488
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: of us from meat either.

489
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: Is that within the five mile corridor or whatever border

490
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: thing that like, Oh, not quite close to town.

491
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and from the top, I mean, you can see

492
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: one of our busier towns in this city. Ear excuse me,

493
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 4: in this state of Montana, not Bozeman. But anyway, it

494
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: was a really amazing experience. There was thirty of us

495
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: that summit did this peak, kids ranging from eight to fifteen,

496
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 4: I think, and then a bunch of their dads and

497
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: some of the other volunteers for the Station Foundation climbed

498
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,360
Speaker 4: this ten thousand foot peak. Hats off to all those kids.

499
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: You made it up there.

500
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: My seven year old kid wouldn't have made it halfway

501
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: up there, and there were these eight year old kids

502
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 4: who just kicked its ass. Last Wednesday, a beautiful day.

503
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 4: Couldn't have had better weather.

504
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: There's a view.

505
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 4: All that that you can see right there in that

506
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 4: photo is public land, So keep your hands off of it.

507
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 2: Nice seth. What do you got for us?

508
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I got a photo of a mountain lion. This

509
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: is the first mountain lion I've ever encountered in my life.

510
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: I have seen multiple since then, but this was twenty seventeen.

511
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: I believe was hunting this during Archer season September in

512
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: Montana here hunting some public land National forest, and we

513
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 3: weren't hearing many bugles that day, so we're kind of

514
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 3: just still hunting through some timber and kind of out

515
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: of nowhere, a few cows and a couple calf l

516
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: kind of filtered past us. So we kind of honkered down, thinking,

517
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: you know, there might be a bull behind them or whatnot,

518
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: and we're.

519
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: This was all pretty new experience for you.

520
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: This was like, yeah, this was my first archery season.

521
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: Like all this public land to just go Yeah.

522
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I moved in twenty sixteen, but this was the

523
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 3: first time I had like my resident license for our

524
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: tree season. And so these these elk kind of moved

525
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: past us, and we hunkered down just to see what

526
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: was gonna happen next. And I kind of look over

527
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: and I see something brown like moving kind of on

528
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: the same trail where these elk could just come by.

529
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: It's probably I don't know, maybe a minute later, and sure, shit,

530
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: it was this mountain lion. And it was like hunting

531
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: those elk, which was cool. And this photo here was

532
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: taken through a pair of binoculars with a cell phone. Cool.

533
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: It turned out pretty Yeah, it turned out pretty good.

534
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: And uh so this thing it came, it came to

535
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: about fifty yards of us, and once it like noticed

536
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 3: we were there, it like did the like the cat

537
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: just like hunker, like it just sunk to the ground,

538
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: like put its belly on the ground and just sat

539
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: there for a couple of minutes, just staring at us

540
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: and like we weren't moving, so it I don't think

541
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: it really knew what we were at first. And then

542
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: finally it just like got up and ran off. But yeah,

543
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 3: it was that's when it was so cool. Yeah, it

544
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: was awesome experience. Sweet all in public land. Yep.

545
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: I guess that leads me this year is going to

546
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: be It'll be twenty years I've been out west hunting,

547
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: and man, I don't know, like I like, let's say

548
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: I've got in twenty years I've killed I don't know,

549
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: let's say, like fifty big game animals or something like that.

550
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: I think only four or maybe five of those animals

551
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: were killed on private land. I've got nothing against hunting

552
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: on private land. That's how I grew up. But when

553
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: I came out and to the west and was like

554
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: I have all this stuff to hunt and twenty years later.

555
00:30:52,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: Here I am. These pictures are my older boy, his

556
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: firsts that he's had on all on public land in

557
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: the last few years. So like this is his first

558
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: ever dear Mule deer buck that he got on public land.

559
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what Phil has has teed up next.

560
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: So this was his first elk last year on public land. Antelope,

561
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: that's his first anilt with his little bro there with him.

562
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: And then I think the last photos me and him

563
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: he did. We we doubled on Turkey's last year. The

564
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: reason I picked these photos is because like those firsts

565
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: are super important, and like that kid only knows hunting

566
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: on public land, Like we don't have a bunch of

567
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: friends with big private ranches and access to a bunch

568
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: of private land. Like this is how this kid hunts.

569
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: And if that stuff gets taken away, that get that's

570
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: getting taken away from him. I'm not so worried about myself,

571
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: you know, but like those opportunities will be taken away

572
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: from him and a bunch of other kids and first

573
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: time hunters, and you know, on top of that all

574
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: the other people that that recreate on public land. So

575
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: that those are the pictures that I chose and that's

576
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: why I chose them.

577
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, good point. Yeah, yep, it's not worth it.

578
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Nope, Nope. What's what's the chat have to say about

579
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: all that? Phil?

580
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: A lot of people yelling about protecting public land, calling

581
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: your senator a bunch of a bunch of a handful

582
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: of Canadians who are who are worried for us?

583
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: Bill Brent? Are you still lurking in there not working?

584
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 5: He hasn't said anything for a while, so I think

585
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 5: he's probably I don't know, doing something with a knife

586
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 5: for recording a podcast.

587
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 3: But uh, let's see here.

588
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: We've gotta gotta get your questions in. This has been

589
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: questioned l a question light episode. But you have any

590
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 5: questions for the crew, let me know. But Colton asks Seth,

591
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 5: what's the plan for yeall's time in Tanzania.

592
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 3: Where I know Steve's buffalo hunting, so spend the big

593
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: chunk of time doing that? And then I think he

594
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 3: wants to kill a warthog two other than I don't know.

595
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: I think we're just gonna be hiking around the bush

596
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: a bunch and you guys are.

597
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: There for a long time, right, yeah, almost three weeks.

598
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite a chunk of time. So yeah, I

599
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know if he If he gets

600
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: those things early, we're gonna go after other things.

601
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: I got a question for you. If one of those

602
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: water buffalo charges Steve and you're right over his shoulder

603
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: with that camera, what are you gonna do.

604
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna drop the camera.

605
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering. That's what I get.

606
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 5: I will also say too, that we are going to

607
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: have a handful of bonus podcast episodes coming out around

608
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 5: the African.

609
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: Buffalo.

610
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: So they're gonna be kind of sort of diaries from

611
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 5: the field with Steve and and various members of the

612
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 5: crew that are gonna be on the trip. Seth included

613
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 5: Dirt Myth as well, so look forward to those ones,

614
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 5: and then we're gonna have a big, old normal podcast

615
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: episode at the end of the trip. And then I'm

616
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 5: sure you guys can look forward to some video content

617
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: down the road, but that stuff takes a few months

618
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: to put together.

619
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is all for season thirteen and media. Yes,

620
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna stick to stick close to whoever

621
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: has that double barrel rifle.

622
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a smart plan.

623
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, Noah asks Brody, what was your favorite thing to

624
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: do outdoors wise in Pa?

625
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I can never answer these questions like

626
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 2: hunting and fishing, but I did more fishing just because

627
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: I was younger when I was there. But I did

628
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: a lot of hunting too.

629
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 5: This guy's asked this question before, and I don't remember

630
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 5: if you guys were in the room when he asked it,

631
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 5: but he wants to. He wants an answer from everyone

632
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 5: on the crew, and I'll give him that opportunity. But

633
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 5: he says, what animal do you shamelessly wish was a

634
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 5: game animal but is and will never be?

635
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, whales?

636
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: That's a good answer.

637
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: Well, they're game animals for some people. I guess.

638
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

639
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: I that's not something I've ever even like considered.

640
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tough one. Tourists, that's pretty shamelessly, but

641
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: it's tourists season here in Montana. But I can't seem

642
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 4: to find a tag, so.

643
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what else would be good?

644
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: Trying to think wild horses?

645
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, here in Montana.

646
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: To the dads, this is from Alaska High boy Any

647
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: books for kids, and I mean, I think it goes

648
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: without saying. Uh, some of the ones that Brody wrote that.

649
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure he'll mention, but yeah, those are pretty good.

650
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 5: Those are solid. He says he's got an almost one

651
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 5: year old and he's tired of all the cutesy, far

652
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: from accurate wildlife books.

653
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: That's a tough one for me. Man, Like, I like

654
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: it's so little, Like I don't even like we just

655
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: read our one year old all sorts of stuff. I

656
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: don't know that there's like outdoor specific books that we

657
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: were reading to our kids at that age. Yeah.

658
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: Same, I know there's some out there, but we didn't

659
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 4: read any. Now he's too old for those little kids books.

660
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, tough.

661
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 5: One question for Corey. It's from figure Nit out Doors.

662
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 5: Solid name there. This guy he got too excited and

663
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 5: didn't even finish his question. He says spring Bear scope

664
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 5: magnification SFP, or FFP and best all around cartridge and

665
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: then he stops. But I think you can answer some

666
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 5: of those if you would like to.

667
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I like the second focal plane four to

668
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: fifteen is plenty. If you're shooting anywhere over three hundred yards,

669
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 4: you might want to zoom in a little bit more

670
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 4: than twelve power, but you certainly don't need it, depending

671
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: on where you're hunting to if you're shooting close quarters,

672
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: you might not even need a scope. And then best

673
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: all around cartridge is the three hundred winch mister magnum period.

674
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: Gotcha, there you go.

675
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 5: Corey's spoken, Uh, let's see here, just kind of these

676
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 5: are these are coming in hot, hot and heavy, trying to.

677
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 2: Pick them out?

678
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

679
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: Dan the outdoorman question for the crew, any unwanted interactions

680
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: with the environmental police while hunting or fishing? Any complicated

681
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: laws gotten you in trouble before?

682
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Nope. All my interactions with game wardens have been very

683
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: pleasant because I haven't had any reason to be in trouble.

684
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

685
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 4: Same as a fishing guide. We'd get pulled over all

686
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: the time, making sure we I was licensed in my

687
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 4: anglers were had their fishing licenses and we had enough

688
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: life jackets in the boat. But it was always a

689
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 4: pleasant Yeah.

690
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never had any bad There's one time we

691
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: had a weird interaction with a park ranger in a

692
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: spot where we were hunting. Yeah, I remember, well, still

693
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: a park and he seemed like the guy just didn't

694
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: like hunters.

695
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Right, But that was like that wasn't a game work.

696
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a game war and it was just

697
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: a yeah, weird interaction with authority.

698
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 5: I we'll do one more Africa question then we can

699
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 5: we can move it along. Max says, question for Seth,

700
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 5: will you get any opportunities to hunt in Tanzania?

701
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah, it's usually the Steve.

702
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 5: Show down there is Yeah, shoot with you.

703
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: It's too expensive, I think, yeah, get creators over there. Cool.

704
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: All right, we'll check back in with those guys towards

705
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: the end of the show. Our next segment is new.

706
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna do kind of a regional summer fishing report.

707
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, so if you got a handful, you got a

708
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 5: couple remote check ins from some some crew members.

709
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: Let's take Phil.

710
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: It says pause for sound. Here, do you got a

711
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: song or not?

712
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: No, I don't have a sound. I don't know.

713
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 2: Come on, that was going.

714
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Up right now, Phil?

715
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: That was somebody cast in a line and open something

716
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 4: would bite.

717
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: All right, we'll come up with a song for that one.

718
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: In the dark.

719
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 7: There you go.

720
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: We didn't play this one.

721
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: Oh we didn't. I didn't give you time to play

722
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: it earlier.

723
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 6: All right, we're live, We're to start out.

724
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: But I've just been getting hotter.

725
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 7: The rivers, they've been shrinking down obviously, and the fish

726
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 7: have been getting more concentrated. I've noticed that the smallies

727
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 7: they've started to run in big groups, going after baitball,

728
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 7: some minnows, any sort of streamer.

729
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: Those have been working well. Crawdads.

730
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 7: Also, this time of year, if you're looking to catch

731
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 7: a big trophy smallly uh. Night fishing is super effective.

732
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 7: On the trout side of things. The soul for hatches

733
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 7: in full swing. I've been hearing from some of my

734
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: guide buddies that they are going more after the dry

735
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 7: flies and the emergers, and then this time of year

736
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 7: you will find the long ear sunfish are in full bloom.

737
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 7: They're as vibrant as ever, looking like something straight out

738
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 7: of the Amazon rainforest. So get out there, go get them.

739
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 7: Good luck to everyone this week who's going out there

740
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 7: to fish.

741
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: Stay safe, and hey, keep it public. Yeah, buddy, god,

742
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: he sounds like Clay.

743
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: He's way better angler than Clay.

744
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 3: I'll pay that. Well, that sounds pretty good.

745
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 5: I'll let your tea this one up, Bertie. I apologize.

746
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: We're bringing in thank you because I came up with

747
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: a good one. Okay, we're bringing in Chester the walleye

748
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: Molester from Wisconsin to let us know what's going on

749
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: out there.

750
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 8: Hello everybody, Chester Floyd coming at you from northern Wisconsin.

751
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 8: Here's your Northern Wisconsin muskie fishing report. With the weather

752
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 8: being so inconsistent in northern Wisconsin, the fish have kind

753
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 8: of been inconsistent too, but big fish are being caught.

754
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 8: Once you find them one day, they could be gone

755
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 8: and move the next day. So the key is to

756
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 8: move around a bunch until you find those fish. I'm

757
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 8: going to focus on main lake points, kind of main

758
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 8: lake humps. If I can find weeds on those, all

759
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 8: the better. Some baits that have been working have been

760
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 8: top water baits, jerk baits like a squarely tailed hellhound here.

761
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 8: Soon enough, the rubber bite and the buck tail bite

762
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 8: should should pick up with the weather, you know, leveling

763
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 8: out and being more consistent. I haven't been out a

764
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 8: lot recently, so I got this information from my buddy

765
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 8: Gus Manti with sugsfishing dot Com.

766
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: He's a guide up here.

767
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 8: But I hope you guys can get out on the

768
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 8: water and hopefully this information helps you catch a big ol' musky.

769
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: See ya, very professional report.

770
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 4: Nice yeah, thanks boys.

771
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: Wow, he's in his new fancy. I'm jealous of that boat.

772
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: Said, I know you don't got a report because you're

773
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: all mad that you haven't been fishing.

774
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: Well, I have been fishing. It's not worth a report,

775
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 3: so got you. So it's been tough, it's been tough

776
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: for me. Oh yeah, Cory.

777
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: Uh man.

778
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: I've been fly angling on some of our local waters

779
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: around here and it's been amazing. Really runoffs over with

780
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 4: a little earlier this year. Water temps are just right

781
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 4: for now getting it. River temps just right. I wish

782
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: it was end of July and not the end of June,

783
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: talking like right now is the time because in three

784
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 4: weeks there might not be a lot of angling to

785
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: be done.

786
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: We've already got some Houdau restrictions going on. But it's

787
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: just good shutting stuff down.

788
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 4: It's really good right now.

789
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: I've been out a little bit, uh planning on heading

790
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: out this weekend to one of our favorite lakes for

791
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: perching while I hear it's picking up. So I'll have

792
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: a report for yeah later after that.

793
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have to do this again.

794
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 3: Wuld I do kind of have a report all right?

795
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: I guess you call it that. I've been keeping track

796
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 3: of what's going on with the local Montana walleye circuit,

797
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: and holy crap, some big numbers this year.

798
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 2: I saw the numbers from Tiber. Holy cow.

799
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, big numbers.

800
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: One hundred and forty pound bags.

801
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: One hundred and forty three pounds for the winning bag.

802
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: So that's ten fish.

803
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeh fish? Whoa, that's do the math in your head there, yeah,

804
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: figure out a lot. Cool.

805
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

806
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like the walleye fishing other than where I've

807
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: been fishing has been good.

808
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Yep.

809
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna stick with the fishing theme for

810
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: this next section. Uh, We're not doing one minute fishing

811
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: because it never seems to work out. I'm really over it.

812
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: We're so different where this is gonna be really exciting

813
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 2: for everyone. First of its kind live fishing contest between

814
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: Seth and Corey. We've we've got our own trout pond

815
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: right out here behind Meat Eater h Q. Seth is

816
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: gonna be out there with his spin pole and Corey

817
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: it's gonna take his fly rod. But I am picking.

818
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: I'm picking their lewer slash fly for them.

819
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 3: I'm nervous too.

820
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be I didn't get I thought about being mean,

821
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 2: but I'm not going to be mean. So I actually

822
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: I am going to give you a choice.

823
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 4: I like options, Corey.

824
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: If you can't catch fish with one of these two things, like,

825
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be really embarrassed, olive or blackly bugger, and

826
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: then seth a little panther Martin or a little cast Master,

827
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: both of which are pretty good choices.

828
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: Oh. I like that. We did a little pre fish yesterday,

829
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: and I'm a little worried I need the heavier one.

830
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: That's what you get.

831
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: I get it.

832
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: I was ready for whatever. They're pretty aggressive out there,

833
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: mostly brick trout that we can find. I know there's

834
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 4: well somebody caught a cutthroat in there at one point.

835
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: Right, I caught a sucker in there one time.

836
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't know, Okay, so.

837
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: So choose your weapon, man, Yeah.

838
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going with the panther Mark.

839
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 4: I'm going with the olive wooly bugger.

840
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: All right, run out there and here we go.

841
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Time or goes? Is it is this like.

842
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: First fish?

843
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: I guess I just got to sit here while they're

844
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: they're out fishing.

845
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: Hello, audio listeners, Phil butting in to let you know

846
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 5: that I'm cutting this entire segment out of the podcast

847
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 5: version that you are currently listening to, because, frankly, it

848
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 5: wasn't very exciting for audio only listeners. We didn't get

849
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 5: a lot of banter from Seth and Corey out there

850
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 5: at the pond. So let's just cut right back to

851
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: the moment where they come back in the studio and

852
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 5: Seth wins the competition with one fish.

853
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 3: How I look Phil terrible?

854
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: So you have to tell us about it.

855
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: When I was releasing that fish, I don't know if

856
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: you could hear it, but there's a lady behind me

857
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: saying release it nicely, gently gently that yeah.

858
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had some spectators, there are some lawnmowers.

859
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: What was your challenge out there? Your biggest challenge?

860
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: Course, mine was just the weeds that I had to

861
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 4: deal with managing my line.

862
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Which you should have waited right in there.

863
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 4: I thought about it, not really. Uh, yesterday we went

864
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: and tested the water just to make sure there was

865
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 4: actually fishing.

866
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: I saw it like you're doing a little pre fish

867
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 2: and beating them up out there. You could have caught

868
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: those fish today.

869
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 4: That could have been what happened. I think I caught

870
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: four yesterday. There you go pretty quickly, or it was

871
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: all of the selection fly. Maybe I should have went

872
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 4: with the black one. But either way, nice work.

873
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: Set I thanks. I wasn't catching anything until I sent

874
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: one all the way up into where that yep, and

875
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: then I could see him. He missed it a few times.

876
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 3: I could see it flashing, oh yeah, and then he got.

877
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: A rush, a bit of an upset, I'd say, Seth,

878
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: nice work.

879
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: I was kind of nervous because yesterday Corey was crushing

880
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: him on the on the the fly.

881
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: Can't be sure, but my guess is is there's probably

882
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: like ten or twelve fish in that.

883
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Entire games like that might be over overkill. Actually, yeah,

884
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 3: that half a dozen. I keep saying I'm gonna win

885
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: during the winter. I'm gonna drill hole and get the

886
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 3: the live scope down in there and just see what's

887
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: going on. But it's just hard to motivate me to

888
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: do that for a couple of Brookies for sure.

889
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:48,919
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that good job, boys. We're gonna move

890
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: on to our trail cam photo contest. Man, here we go.

891
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be big. It's brought to us by our

892
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: friends at Moultrie and For the first round, we ask

893
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: you guys to send us your funniest photos. We got

894
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 2: hundreds of submissions, so choosing the top five was difficult.

895
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: We saw shots multiple folks taking a dump in the woods.

896
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: That's that's like not I don't know, I don't find

897
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: that funny. Dear raccoon, squirrel, bear fornication, that's funny. Topless

898
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: female hiker not funny, but you know whatever. Anyway, Corey,

899
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: you looked through all these, didn't you.

900
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 4: I looked through all of them last night with a

901
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: tall glass of whiskey. So thanks for everybody for putting

902
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: all these in. I'd say there were like three hundred

903
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: and fifty submissions.

904
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: Are you damaged from it? Or you're doing all right?

905
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 3: I mean.

906
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: This made you laugh out loud?

907
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 4: Yeah?

908
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: There were like are we gonna see them?

909
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

910
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 4: The couple that made me laugh out loud it made

911
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 4: it in here. There was a lot that should have

912
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: made it in here.

913
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 3: But it was tough to select five. Yeah.

914
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 4: Again, next to everybody for submitting. We're gonna do this

915
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 4: again next month, maybe with a different themes. So stay tuned.

916
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: But so let's like I'll tell people what let's like

917
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: announce what they're getting after we look at the picture,

918
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: build up the excitement.

919
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: All right, are we ready to see photo number one?

920
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: Here?

921
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: Photo number one? Now the chat. If you guys can

922
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: give us your thoughts on the your funniest picture please.

923
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are going to decide the winner. We're

924
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: not deciding the winner. So like Phil's gonna do some

925
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: quick math as you guys.

926
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 5: Vote for them, I'm going to try to start a pull.

927
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 5: I think I can add five five options on the

928
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 5: poll that I might be limited to this one.

929
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: Exist you can say these people's names, right, yeah, Branson McAtee.

930
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: He's calling this the Ninja squirrel.

931
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 4: I mean, look at that capture.

932
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: I wonder what is he trying to land on the

933
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 3: turkey's back or what? I wonder what's going on?

934
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 4: It looks like he's going full American Ninje warri or

935
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: on this turkey.

936
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: I wish that was ael video we do.

937
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: I know that would be a mat we can do that.

938
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 4: What happened after? But I cracked up to this one.

939
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: I mean, what a great shot. Yeah, what a capture.

940
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: Just squirrel. You know, squirrels just do weird stuff when

941
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 3: you're yep, they're funny when you're sitting a tree stand

942
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: back east. You just watch squirrels do weird stuff, which

943
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: is cool, Okay, Ninja squirrel?

944
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: All right?

945
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: Number two this is from level nineteen. Uh, late night Talk.

946
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: It's really hard to tell what come on? Is this real?

947
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: I was worried we had some AI generated photos, but

948
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 4: it's so it's hard to say what's happening here.

949
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: But that's just it's like a bug that's yeah, close

950
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: to the camera and it just just happened to be

951
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: a right right spot right time.

952
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show. I'm gonna I'd like to think that's

953
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: what it is. Seth, I'm gonna.

954
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna.

955
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna not be a Debbie Downer and say this

956
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: was this was like.

957
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: This one had the second most likes on the website.

958
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: It looks like that Is that a palmetto right there? Yeah?

959
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 2: Somewhere south?

960
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 3: Good call? All right?

961
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: Number three, number three weeks coming from Michael hammondry kid Menace.

962
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 5: I think he's doing the Shocker. I can't tell.

963
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 2: This kid is just driving by a camera. He knows

964
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: is there that his dad how's has out and he's

965
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 2: just like trespassing.

966
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: So, yeah, we had a lot of you know, wild

967
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: game images, but some really great, like home security photos

968
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 4: that were hilarious, and this one just seemed like it

969
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 4: was obviously set up maybe for turkeys or deer. And

970
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: this kid who's supposed to like.

971
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: In a neighborhood, there's like houses and stuff back there.

972
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember the guy mentioning that this kid

973
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 4: is supposed to be on the street and he keeps

974
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: kind of like taking a short.

975
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: Cut, and then he found that camera. He's just brutalizing

976
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: that guy.

977
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 4: Know, I couldn't help.

978
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it's more funny.

979
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: Now, all right, here's number four, Brian cal Yoda. This

980
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 5: is the one that I do not think is a

981
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 5: trail camp.

982
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so Brian said, and Brody, you've met Brian before,

983
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 4: for he made sure to mention this. Yeah, i'll forward

984
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: you the email. But he was doing a Purdue University

985
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: project where they were learning how to scientifically survey wildlife

986
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 4: populations using trail cameras. And this trail camera was a

987
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: thirty five millimeter film camera that they were using.

988
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: But Bud just set up as an yeah gotcha.

989
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, But a buddy of his played a joke and

990
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: put on the Yoda mask and obviously captured something other

991
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: than what they were going.

992
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: For here, but I that's creepy.

993
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny.

994
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: It was that phill. That one was for you. Oh,

995
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thanks for the shout out. I like

996
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: to feel included. You know, someone was having fun with

997
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: that one.

998
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: All right?

999
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: Number five, like, how can this not be funny?

1000
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1001
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: Like a bear shitting in the woods is just fun.

1002
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: If you zoom in close to you can really.

1003
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 3: I think I wish I wish I had a zoomed

1004
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 3: in one.

1005
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: People's vote, but this one gets my vote.

1006
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 5: I like it not because he's shitting, but his facial

1007
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 5: expression looking into the cameras.

1008
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: Embarrass and he's like, up on. I feel like he's

1009
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: working pretty hard because he's up on hind legs man,

1010
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: like he's really getting after.

1011
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: I was impressed by that too.

1012
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 5: Okay, so here are the limitations of the poll. I

1013
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 5: can only give four options, so I think as a room,

1014
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 5: we eliminate our least favorite Yoda.

1015
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, Brian, I understand we met, but that

1016
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: pictures I don't like it.

1017
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: All right, So I am we are eliminating Yoda. I'm

1018
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: going to start the pole here in a few seconds.

1019
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 3: So one two, here we go, three or four.

1020
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: One two, three or five. Pole is going live right now.

1021
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: Please vote in the live chat and we will do.

1022
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 2: We want to mess around with. Can we do a

1023
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: little feedback while of course please do people are voting.

1024
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: That'll give us something to do.

1025
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1026
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 5: We got a question from mote. Hey says Hi Seth,

1027
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 5: what camera are you currently using? Do you bring a

1028
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 5: lot of photography gear when you travel or just one

1029
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 5: reliable setup?

1030
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: Thank you? A seven R five for the main camera.

1031
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Backup is in a seven R four. I got a

1032
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: seventy to two hundred lens, twenty four to seventy and

1033
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: sixteen to thirty five. Yeah that's my setup, A bunch

1034
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 3: of batteries, some filters. Yeah, it's about it. Not super complicated,

1035
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: but sounds complicated to me. Wow, you're a professional.

1036
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Spencer not our spencer in the chat has an idea.

1037
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: He says, we should do an outdoor obstacle course. Catch

1038
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: a fish, catch a loose chicken and a fishing net,

1039
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 5: then pluck a duck.

1040
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 2: First we got to catch a fish, like the other stuff.

1041
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: It'd be great to do the other stuff first.

1042
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: We but we never get there.

1043
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was an idea last winter. Actually we're gonna

1044
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 4: like ice skating, drilling holes in the ice and then

1045
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 4: like first one to drop their line in the ice.

1046
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: But it would have been too much. We would have

1047
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: needed more than a couple of minutes.

1048
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 5: The question from Matt He says, how do you like

1049
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 5: to answer non hunters who ask you did you catch

1050
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 5: a big one when you get home from hunting season?

1051
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: I don't. I just like I just tell them, like

1052
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to like try and make him feel stupid,

1053
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: you know.

1054
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just say we kill them, not catch them,

1055
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: unless you're like lying hunting or something. Yeah.

1056
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 5: Captain Texas says Seth. What is the most challenging part

1057
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 5: about filming other people hunting?

1058
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 6: Hmm?

1059
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 3: I would say just trying not to be the guy

1060
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: that ever spooks the animal, you know, ye, which over

1061
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: time you learn you just I typically I don't move

1062
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: unless Steve's Steve moves, so there's never like a you know,

1063
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: he can't turn around and be like you spooked it.

1064
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: I'd be like, well, I was doing the same thing

1065
00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: you were doing.

1066
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: So do you notice the difference between because like Steve's

1067
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 2: very aware you know, I used to work on the

1068
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: camera crew way back, and like Steve's very aware of

1069
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: the camera guys and how the whole thing works, and

1070
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: like there's got to be like you've got to have

1071
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: expectations for the hunters too, right, do you notice like

1072
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 2: a way big difference between like filming Steve and filming

1073
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: a guest hunter has never been filmed before, Like as

1074
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: far as challenges they present to you.

1075
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, and no filming someone that's never been

1076
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 3: filmed before, Like they they just think. I feel like

1077
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 3: most people just think it's like impossible to kill something

1078
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 3: with that many people. And you'll get guys there like,

1079
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, don't move, don't It's like, yeah, we know

1080
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: what we're doing. So that's kind of like one thing

1081
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: with with new people. And Steve's like it depends on

1082
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: the animal too, but he's like I think he we

1083
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: always use guys that have been with us forever and

1084
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 3: know the game and know how to be quiet, and

1085
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: so he's he typically doesn't like yell at us or anything.

1086
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: Sometimes he does, but yeah, it all depends.

1087
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 5: Mark says, guys, I want to send a mule deer

1088
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 5: hide off to get processed hair on it's currently wrapped

1089
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 5: and in the freezer. How long is that going to

1090
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 5: be good for before I need to ship it off?

1091
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: As long as it's frozen.

1092
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a long time, forever cool.

1093
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 5: I'll do one more, then we'll see how the pole

1094
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 5: is going. Max, not our Max says, how did y'all

1095
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 5: get started with meat Eater? Was there an application, an

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00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 5: interview process or we all picked because of your individual skills.

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Speaker 5: I think we each have like a different path to

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00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: how he got.

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Speaker 2: I'll start since I'm the oldest. I used to guide

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00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: with Giannis in Colorado. Jannis moved to Alaska through a

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00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: mutual friend, got hooked up with Steve and became a

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00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: production assistant. A few years later, they needed help on

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: the Stars in the Sky shoot. Joannis approached me. That's

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00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: how I got my start, and one thing led to

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00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: another and I started writing with Steve. That was ten

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 2: years ago.

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, mine was semi similar. Good friend of mine and

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00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 4: also one of our colleagues presented the job offer to me.

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00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 4: It was during COVID, when I was guiding fishermen and hunters,

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 4: when I wasn't quite sure if that industry was going

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00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 4: to last. A whole lot longer. Just we weren't letting

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00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: out of staters in the States, so things were really weird.

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00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 4: So I tried to get a different job, I guess

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00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: more steady job. And yeah that was five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Now, nice. Yeah, mine was meteor. Was just looking for

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00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: a pretty auction assistant to help out on shoots and

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00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 3: haul gear and make time.

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Speaker 2: Can you find out a mutual friend.

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00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: Recommended a mutual friend that knew Yiannis and Steve and

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00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: whatnot recommended me to them, And yeah, just kind of

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00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 3: got on a phone call with The Honest and rest

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00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: was history. That was twenty eighteen, Washington. El Khunt was

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00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 3: the my first shoot ever.

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Speaker 5: Phil Oh I got burnt out working in TV and

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 5: applied via indeed dot com. Nice yeah, and yeah I

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: had audio experience and I was worried they wouldn't want

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: me because I didn't hunt and the Honest. My first

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 5: interview was with The Honest. He said that does not matter.

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Speaker 5: I said, thank God. And that was six years ago now,

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Speaker 5: so yeah, there we go. All right, let's see who

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 5: had the best trail camp photo in last place with

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Speaker 5: six percent of the vote, we have number three, biker Kid.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, yeah.

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Speaker 3: We get rid of it. But that shit, look at them.

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01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: You probably needs slapped.

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: Is that an e bike?

1137
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh it might be, it's.

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 4: Hard to tell you a little motorcycle.

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, possibly, all right. And then in third place, with

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 5: twelve percent of the vote, we have deer fart.

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: Oh see you had high hopes for that left.

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01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 4: Hard to say what's going on in that photo, but yeah,

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01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: nobody else.

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01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 5: Cared and we only have two left. Now it's between

1146
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 5: Ninja squirrel and bear shitting, and I will announce the

1147
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 5: first place winner. The first place winner with sixty eight

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 5: percent of the vote.

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Speaker 3: It was a landslide. We've got bear shitt.

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 5: There we go, congratulations, Yeah, yeah, yeah, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So who was that fine at a Pain?

1152
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: A pain?

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01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll reach out to you for this so massive collection.

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, gear the winner at a Pain you're going to

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01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: receive a uh what's is it? T w O or

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 2: two two two? It looks like it's part of the Okay,

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01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: it's like written weird two of the Moultrie Edge, two cameras,

1158
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: So two of those suckers. Two ten watt solar pack

1159
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: or is that ten watt ten watt solar power power packs?

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01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: An MKC knife, the saw two slicer. You want to

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: show them what that one is.

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01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: Well, it's pretty packaged up here.

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01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: Oh then, don't worry about it all. Geez man, this

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01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: just this list, just this is a long one. The

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01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: list just keeps going. Two hundred and fifty dollars Meat

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: Eater store gift card and a two hundred and fifty

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: dollars First Light gift card.

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01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: That's five hundred dollars.

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 3: Fake Pride. Didn't know who's this big. I would have submitted

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Speaker 3: a photo.

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01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: A fair ship in the woods for all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, stay tuned again. We're gonna try this again next

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Speaker 4: month and maybe the month after.

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Sounds I think we should. It's kind of fun as

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01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: long as Moultrie is gonna kick down and we keep

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Speaker 2: getting cool prizes. All right, hope you enjoyed it. That's

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Speaker 2: the end of today's show. Join us next week everyone,

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Speaker 2: and have a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Take it easy later.