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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty Show. So while he's talking collusion, inclusion, inclusion,

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Speaker 1: I think in oversight we should be talking about taxes, taxis, taxes,

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Speaker 1: There you go, AOC. While while Mueller's talking about collusion, collusion, inclusion,

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Speaker 1: the declusion things just over. That's that's, that's, that's done.

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Speaker 1: It's onto the A. But AOC is one of the

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Speaker 1: people leading the charge. Lovely well, he's hot. Campaign finance

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Speaker 1: smell the charges. There is an accusation that her chief

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Speaker 1: of staff illegally moved almost a million dollars in campaign

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Speaker 1: contributions in a weird off. The book's way and a

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Speaker 1: lot of goodman is Uh writing about it for The

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Speaker 1: Washington Examiner alt a and investigative political reporter. Welcome, how

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm great? How are you doing well? Good?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for spending a couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: with us today, So it tell us what he's being alleged.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday, the National legaland Policy Center, which is a

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Speaker 1: Comngresswoman Okaza Cortes and her chief of staff should I

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Speaker 1: And this was an arranged meant that you know. As

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Speaker 1: part of this arrangement, Chackoberti appears to have funneled over

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Speaker 1: But there is really no way of knowing how it

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Speaker 1: and then they paid almost a million dollars to a

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Speaker 1: private company that he happened on. Yes, they raised about

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Speaker 1: three point three million dollars during this time period. UM.

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Speaker 1: Mainly small donors. UM. These are you know, progressive activist

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Speaker 1: money was then sent to to corporation that her chief

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Speaker 1: It was. It was disclosed in the SEC filings as

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Speaker 1: payments for strategic consulting. UM. But if they're paying enough

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels to any chance of that, everybody's paying off

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Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels. UM. So that was a key detail. You

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Speaker 1: just to mention there that Uh, he wasn't chief of

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Speaker 1: a problem for him. That sounds like that's a problem

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Speaker 1: but he didn't do that to benefit her. Then if

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Speaker 1: and certainly we don't know how much you know, she

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Speaker 1: but this is something that the SEC can take a

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Speaker 1: clear what um, and they'll look into that. But so

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Speaker 1: I I read your piece in this excellent I was

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Speaker 1: that's what people will do all the time in Washington.

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Speaker 1: So well, I did, the money was being handled, wasn't

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Speaker 1: When you're using a corporation, um, you know, putting campaign

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Speaker 1: spending that right. I only have one more question for you,

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Speaker 1: So what sort of stuff do you usually usually investigate?

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Speaker 1: I do? I do. I do politics? Um, yeah, money,

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Speaker 1: I really like The Haunting at Hill House. I know,

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Speaker 1: Well at his number four thirty on my list of things,

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Speaker 1: reporter for the Washington Examiner. Really great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, we'll talk again, so listen. I

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Speaker 1: He said, what's so weird about this situation is that

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