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Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? John little Coff with the Three

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Speaker 1: and we will get to them at the end of

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We've been banging out a bunch of questions.

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Speaker 1: We do it every week. Today we got a big

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Speaker 1: show coming up, UH, talking a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: Panther sale. Dez Bryant will hit on Flacco and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But but let's start with the Carolina Panthers. I'm fascinated

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Speaker 1: by this story. One thing we'll try to do on

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Speaker 1: this on this podcast. It's something that I really like,

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people that that follow

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Speaker 1: the NFL really like, because you guys work in business,

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Speaker 1: like the business aspect of the NFL. The Carolina Panthers

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Speaker 1: just sold for a little over two point two billion

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Speaker 1: dollars to a guy, Jacob Temper. Uh. He was a

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Speaker 1: minority owner with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I just texted a

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Speaker 1: family member who who's deep in business, and he said

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Speaker 1: he's one of the great investors of all time. He

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Speaker 1: just paid cash. I repeat cash, all cash for the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Paid cash. He's not taking out any loans.

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Speaker 1: He paid cash. If you google Temper you'll find it.

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Speaker 1: Like a month ago, he sold a bunch of his head.

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Speaker 1: He's a hedge funds manager, sold a bunch of his

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Speaker 1: stock of Apple for like eight hundred fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: He is worth over eleven billion dollars. And I think

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Speaker 1: there are several angles of this. First off, just how

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Speaker 1: fascinating the growth of the NFL is, and I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of it has been the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: No league has done a better job with the new

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Speaker 1: media and just pounced on the revenue streams. But I

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Speaker 1: just looked back. I live in the Bay Area. Eddie Dear.

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Speaker 1: Bartelow's a legend around here, and in nineteen seventy seven

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Speaker 1: he purchased the San Fransco forty Niners, who at the

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Speaker 1: time was a struggling franchise. Clearly a lot has changed

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Speaker 1: in the last what forty years, but he paid seventeen

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Speaker 1: basically paid the equivalent in two thousand and eighteen. Of

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Speaker 1: who paid a hundred and forty million dollars inflation two

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Speaker 1: d eighty million dollars today. A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: The Polygulus, who are just absolutely loaded, you know, multi

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Speaker 1: multibillionaires over I think paid one point four billion dollars

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills, one of the smallest markets in

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Speaker 1: the league now obviously the Carolina Panthers, Charlotte's and you know,

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Speaker 1: an up and coming market in America. But I think

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Speaker 1: it shows you what the NFL has really turned into.

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Speaker 1: It's basically like, I've never played Augusta National and I'm

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Speaker 1: grounds before, and when you hear stories about how a

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Speaker 1: matter how much money you have, You're either in or

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Speaker 1: has become that just because you're rich doesn't mean you

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Speaker 1: obviously after the scandal and it turned out he's a

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Speaker 1: total pig that we've Everyone was like, oh, can beat Diddy?

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Speaker 1: Can beat Diddy? And Steph Curry by it. And my

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Speaker 1: first reaction was, what the hell are you taking no

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Speaker 1: chance on God's green earth? You know, can can this

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Speaker 1: celebrity buy it? And that's not how the film works.

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Speaker 1: You have to be on the end. And he was

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, Like in my backyard, I

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Speaker 1: got Jed York and Mark Davis. Mark Davis is is

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Speaker 1: the most cash poor of all the NFL owners. I

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Speaker 1: would say before the Levi Stadium, Jed York and his family.

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Speaker 1: Now Eddie de Bartalo wasn't. But when Eddie de Bartalo

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Speaker 1: The influx of these new owners, and I've seen it

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Speaker 1: same plane as those people. You are not gonna think alike.

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Speaker 1: So as the polygulas come in, as the tempers come

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Speaker 1: even Jimmy Haslum had already been in the league, but

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Speaker 1: they didn't have saying power in these owners meetings. Now

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Speaker 1: they're at the head of the table. They're gonna think differently.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in these old school owners. Why because they have

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Speaker 1: way more money. He just paid two point two billion

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Speaker 1: plus cash cash for for this team. I tweeted it

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Speaker 1: out earlier today. Anyone that's ever tried to buy Bay

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Speaker 1: the amount of money here the majority of people like me,

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Speaker 1: and you can't even begin to relate. They have monopoly money.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to buy a home and you're spending you know,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, god it, this is gonna be stretching

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Speaker 1: your head. That's what happened here. And if you read

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Speaker 1: he was not even the highest bidder, he was not

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Speaker 1: the highest bidder, but you know what he was. He

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Speaker 1: he did. He didn't have to finance it. He paid cash.

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Speaker 1: Like the changing of the guard in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: think the league it's gonna be fast. I don't know

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Speaker 1: would imagine maybe a couple NFL owners think about selling

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Speaker 1: this type money cash handed into your you know, deposit

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Speaker 1: into bank account. Now. I know there's a huge ego

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Speaker 1: families that when the Davis family bought in back in

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Speaker 1: Jed York. But there could come a time when he

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Speaker 1: never know, and a guy pay cash, like what would

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners fetch on the open market? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Just say that, what would they fetch? Well, you know

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Speaker 1: be a stretch to see some of these owners sell

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Speaker 1: in the in the foreseeable future, you know, the next

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Speaker 1: with the amount of money these people are paying, what

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Speaker 1: the country club is becoming. The NFL has always been

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Speaker 1: obviously the last, you know, twenty three years, a rich

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Speaker 1: the Yorks and the davis Is and the Browns, like

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Speaker 1: they have nothing in common with this guy. This guy

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Speaker 1: has more cash in his couch than they do combined

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Speaker 1: in their bank accounts. So and the more and more

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Speaker 1: good job. The league is held by the Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: and the Bob Crafts that have a good balance of

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Speaker 1: because just put yourself in those shoes. If you're coming

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Speaker 1: as equals. I don't care if you've only been in

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Speaker 1: And it's not back in the day like when Eddie

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but the guard is clearly changing. Let's

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Speaker 1: get to another. Uh. I guess it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: and it's Joe Flacco and Lamar Jackson. Obviously, I would

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Speaker 1: actually talked. But Joe Flacco has not talked to Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: league is pounding the table for and I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I've just I've worked in the league for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. It's pretty easy to pound the table for

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Speaker 1: a player if he's just semi decent, let alone des

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Speaker 1: Bryant's talent. I think it's pretty telling, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Amazon was a a little insight into the window

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Speaker 1: of what Dez is like. And I know people I

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Speaker 1: tweeted at the video like a month ago, and everyone's like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you could do this with every player. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you could not. In something just as simple as

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Speaker 1: the interaction that Dooley was having with him saying to

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Speaker 1: get ready for the Denver NCOs with the Cowboys ended

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Speaker 1: up getting their as kid. Now I checked the box score.

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Speaker 1: Des actually had a decent game. I think he had

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Speaker 1: like six catches in a touchdown. But the point remains,

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Speaker 1: you know that that's that's just basic coaching, that's coaching

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Speaker 1: one on one in the NFL, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is a reflection that that is gonna stay unemployed for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Okay, let's get to uh what I

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Speaker 1: think is my favorite part of the podcast. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: call it the Middle Coff mail Bag and then the

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Speaker 1: Middle Coff mail Bag. If you go to iTunes, subscribe, rate,

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Speaker 1: and then review section, leave a question mark and I'll

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Speaker 1: answer them in the podcast. Let's start with TNF X

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Speaker 1: four left a question on Marcus Mariota. Who's to blame

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Speaker 1: for Mariota's bound a bad season in two thousand seventeen

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Speaker 1: and will he bounce back this year? I put two

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Speaker 1: players in this category, Derek Carr and Mariota. Both of

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Speaker 1: them ironically were injured on the same day two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I think it was weeks sixteen, and both of them,

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Speaker 1: potentially now Mariota was injured in the game that probably

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Speaker 1: would have cost the Titans the playoffs. Car was obviously

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Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. To me, when you're a young

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Speaker 1: quarterback and you have a major injury and you lose

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Speaker 1: out on your entire off season, I think it throws

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Speaker 1: everything off, and young quarterbacks probably more than veterans because

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Speaker 1: they don't. While everyone relies on confidence, I feel confident

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Speaker 1: when you're a younger player so much more important because

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Speaker 1: you haven't been there. You can't necessarily rely on experience.

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Speaker 1: So both those people, when I both those people at

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, Car and Mariota play differently obviously, but when

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Speaker 1: I watched Mariota and I watched Car, the number one

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Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me this season was they

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Speaker 1: just didn't look comfortable when two years ago they were

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Speaker 1: very comfortable. And to me, it's just reps. You don't

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Speaker 1: get those reps all off season, and then you start

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Speaker 1: the You start the season, and there is no practice.

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Speaker 1: Once the season starts, is all revolved around the game plan,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for Sunday. It's not as much while there

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Speaker 1: are individual fundamental periods, you can lose sight of the fundamentals.

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Speaker 1: It's why in the off season you set the tone,

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Speaker 1: you set the base of your house, and then throughout

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Speaker 1: the season you build it. It's why Tom Brady all offseason,

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Speaker 1: even though he's not at the O T. A. S

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Speaker 1: Or Aaron Rodgers, they work on the basic stuff and

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Speaker 1: then once the season comes, they just hone in on

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Speaker 1: their opponents. And when you're a young quarterback and you

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Speaker 1: have a major injury, you know, working in on those

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Speaker 1: repetitive fundamentals that especially guys that are only two and

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Speaker 1: three years removed from college when they ran different type

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Speaker 1: offenses that they're running in the pros is really important.

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Speaker 1: Now to me, the thing the little scary part about Mariota,

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Speaker 1: and I've said this from the jump, Marioda does not

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Speaker 1: have a great arm. It's solid, it's not near the

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Speaker 1: top end of the young guys. The wins is the cars,

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Speaker 1: it's not in that. It's closer to goth So he

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Speaker 1: has to be very accurate, and he wasn't very accurate

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Speaker 1: last year. Now, I do think his success is gonna

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Speaker 1: be a little predicated on the run game. That run

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Speaker 1: game took a big step back last year with DeMarco

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Speaker 1: Murray getting hurt. I would expect him to bounce back.

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Speaker 1: He is a much better player than he showed last year.

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Speaker 1: I've always questioned, though, is he gonna be some superstar?

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Speaker 1: We'll see. He's got a new coach, obviously not an

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Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach, but a tough guy who's gonna

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Speaker 1: try to win it on defense and maybe get back

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Speaker 1: to his roots of just playing a little more ball

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Speaker 1: control and not putting as much on Mariota's shoulder. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I would envision him bouncing back, but I would temper

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Speaker 1: my enthusiasm a little bit. I mean, is he just

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Speaker 1: gonna become, you know, a top five quarterback. I've never

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Speaker 1: been so sure about that. Let's get to rob uh question.

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Speaker 1: As a Seattle Seahawks fan, what is a realistic outlook

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Speaker 1: on this season and the future with the division getting better,

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Speaker 1: with the roster that has gotten worst. Great question. I

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Speaker 1: would say the NFC West has seen a massive changing

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Speaker 1: of the guard. I think it was for five straight

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Speaker 1: years Seattle Sea OAX had won the division. The one

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Speaker 1: reason I will not ride out right off the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Seahawks despite all their roster turnover, really there too, and

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Speaker 1: it's Pete Caroline Russell Wilson. When you have an elite

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Speaker 1: coach and when you have an elite quarterback, you always

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Speaker 1: have a chance. In the NFL, I don't give a

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Speaker 1: ship who your teammates are. So I would say realistic

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Speaker 1: outlook would to be a be around five hundred. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think It's crazy if all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you say Seattle's in the playoff mix next year. They

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Speaker 1: have a they have a Hall of Fame quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: they have a coach whose resume speaks for itself. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can write them off. And let's

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Speaker 1: not forget last year they were right in the mix

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Speaker 1: until really the Rams kicked their ass in Seattle and

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Speaker 1: then didn't they bounce back the following week when they

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Speaker 1: beat Dallas. So it's not like they were And I

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Speaker 1: thought John Schneider had one of the best quotes of

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Speaker 1: the off season when he said, we were a nine

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Speaker 1: and seven team and it felt like we won two games.

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Speaker 1: And part of that is when you have Seattle had

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Speaker 1: turned into like New England Patriot Green Bay Packers expectations,

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Speaker 1: and obviously those have kind of come back to earth

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Speaker 1: a little bit heading into this season. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think and listen, I live in the Bay Area. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people just feel and this I think gets

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Speaker 1: into your bigger picture. Uh, you know, divisional question, Like

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners they won five games when they had

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Speaker 1: zero pressure on them. I'm I'm a big Jimmy Garoppolo fan,

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Speaker 1: but let's see, he's the starting quarterback for the first

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Speaker 1: time in an offseason ton of pressure. Their roster is

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Speaker 1: not that great to me. The Rams are clearly on

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Speaker 1: the on the top shelf level, just on paper, and

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Speaker 1: they did it last year and they proved they could.

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Speaker 1: They could definitely beat Seattle, and they beat the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners earlier in the season. We didn't get to see

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen because McVeigh benched everyone. But I still think

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Speaker 1: this is a three horse race coming into this season.

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Speaker 1: The Rams are the lead dog. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the difference between Russell Wilson's a better player than

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Pete Carroll's accomplished a lot more than Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: So I can't just automatically. While I would say I

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Speaker 1: would pick the Niners to finish second, I can't just

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Speaker 1: write that in concrete. I would pump our brakes a

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Speaker 1: little bit on that and big picture, Listen, anyone that's

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Speaker 1: listening to this show knows I'm a Josh Rosen guy.

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Speaker 1: If Steve Wilkes, I don't, I really, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with know much about him. Only time will tell. So

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Speaker 1: your head coach has to be good for your team

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Speaker 1: to be good. Usually if he turns out to be

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Speaker 1: a solid head coach and Rosen can stay healthy, It's

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Speaker 1: not like Arizona is going anywhere. Is there a chance

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Speaker 1: this is one of the better divisions in like three years?

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff and Josh Rosen that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback division. I mean, the oldest guy

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Speaker 1: is is Russell Wilson at what like years old? I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's sturdy yet, So you'd have to be

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Speaker 1: pretty bullish on where this division's headed. My only I

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Speaker 1: guess red flag on Seattle. Big big picture is how

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Speaker 1: much longer is Pete gonna coach? He has more money

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Speaker 1: than God. Now, he's accomplished everything he's set out to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: Is he in it for the long haul? If they

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Speaker 1: do take a step back this year and wins six

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Speaker 1: or seven games, does he want to rebuild? And then

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Speaker 1: to me the question mark and this would be the

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Speaker 1: great intrigue. Would uh would John Schneider be able to

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Speaker 1: pride Chris Peterson away from the University of Washington? I would,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, if you would ask me years ago, would

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Speaker 1: Ris Peterson never go to the NFL. I'd say no,

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Speaker 1: he has zero aspirations. But I do think it'd be

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Speaker 1: a pretty unique fit. Uh culturally, geographically he's right there

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Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson. Uh that that would be my if

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Speaker 1: Pete ever did retire, because I don't see I was

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Speaker 1: not gonna fire him no matter how bad this year is.

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Speaker 1: Would John Schneider make an all out run uh for

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Speaker 1: Chris Peterson? And I do think if you are Chris Peterson,

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Speaker 1: you'd at least have to listen. Next question, Uh, what

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Speaker 1: okay here, Mike? Question? Is this what could the Eagles

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Speaker 1: really get for false? And would they ever trade him?

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Speaker 1: Nate from Maryland? Good question. I think realistically they could

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Speaker 1: get a third. Would they ever trade him? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: mean how he rosemand. I've worked for him. He's like

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Speaker 1: Billy Bean or Danny Ainge. He trade his kid for

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Speaker 1: the right value. I don't think they trade him right

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Speaker 1: now though, unless you offered, you know, just a player

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Speaker 1: that you know, Khalil Mack or just someone you couldn't

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Speaker 1: turn down. Obviously that trade would never happen. But you

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Speaker 1: kind of need him right now. You're starting quarterback has

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Speaker 1: a torn a c L And while all the reports

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Speaker 1: say he's a head of schedule, he still has a

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Speaker 1: torn a c You know he's coming back from a

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Speaker 1: major injury. This guy has also proven that he can

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. So I think you're hesitant because

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Speaker 1: you go, we have the best backup in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: maybe the only backup since now Jimmy Garoppos out of town.

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Speaker 1: And depending on how good some of these rookies are,

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Speaker 1: that you could make a playoff run with, like that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty powerful asset to have. And he gives you

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Speaker 1: a contingency plan that even when Wentz comes back, and

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Speaker 1: he's coming back, he's proven he's gonna struggle to stay

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Speaker 1: on the field. He got injured in college a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago at a much smaller level than the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Two years in the NFL, and again, I love Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: If I had a number one overall fantasy draft of

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Speaker 1: real football, he'd be my number one overall pick for

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Speaker 1: the next ten years. But it's a little risky. He's

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Speaker 1: got two major injuries in the last like five years.

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Speaker 1: He's got to stay healthy. And whenever you have a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you say, well, he's got to stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: you have to have a good backup plan. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I don't think a team would offer more than a third,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's enough given the Eagle situation,

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Speaker 1: to justify a trade. So I really see fools on

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Speaker 1: this team for the foreseeable future, that being this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a year to year league, so foreseeable future.

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Speaker 1: The next twelve months is a long time in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Next question, Uh, it's a long one. Okay. Let me

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Speaker 1: get this out from from from ed. Do you subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the philosophy that NFL teams should scout thirty two

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Speaker 1: college programs like this like they scout the other NFL teams.

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Speaker 1: This allows you to develop a better understanding. This is

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Speaker 1: a good question of who may be available in the

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Speaker 1: following year's draft and build your draft board, even though

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Speaker 1: it's a rough product for the next year. May also

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Speaker 1: allow you to find some hidden gems in great programs.

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Speaker 1: And I see what you're saying here. I would say,

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Speaker 1: here's the problem. You already scout the Big five programs,

641
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Speaker 1: the Power five programs, you know, the Pack twelve, the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, the Big Ten, the SEC, and the AEC.

643
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Speaker 1: Pretty heavily. Uh, you know, you pay a decent amount

644
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Speaker 1: of money. You have guys all over the league, and

645
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: scouting services that most teams subscribe to give you a

646
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: list of guys, and because or scouts are going like

647
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Speaker 1: I remember my last year in the NFL going into

648
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: programs like, uh, like USC in Oregon, it was clear

649
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: when you went out to practice that, like, even though

650
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Speaker 1: Dion Jordan's was on the team that they had this

651
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: freshman DeForest Buckner, he just looked differently than everyone else.

652
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: When I went out to USC practice though they had

653
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, you just looked and you saw Marquise Lee,

654
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: and I would I've never done this the SEC, but

655
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: I've always heard stories. The SEC is clearly just like that.

656
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: It's programs like l s U, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, et cetera.

657
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: So you just naturally going into these programs make little

658
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: notes like it's pretty clear who your first rounder is.

659
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: And then at the programs like the Baker Mayfield and

660
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: stuff that are mid round guys that rise, you've watched

661
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: them play. So I I think most of these teams

662
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: scout most of these big programs that are producing all

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Speaker 1: the top guys pretty heavily anyway. Uh, in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eighteen, with the Internet, I I don't think there's

665
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: any thing is a hidden gem anymore. There might be

666
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: a hidden quote unquote hidden gem start of January, like

667
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: start of the All Star circuit, but once you go

668
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: to the East West Shrine Game or the Senior Bowl,

669
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Speaker 1: a hidden gem. And when you say hidden gym to me,

670
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: now is a guy that most teams have in the

671
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: later rounds goes to one of these All Star games

672
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: kind of shoots up the board there. They no longer exist.

673
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: With communication and just with the world being flat, it's

674
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: hard to fly under the radar with the power of football,

675
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: with the power of the NFL, and just with the

676
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: power of the Internet. So I think most teams, for

677
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: the most part, everything that I've known and been in

678
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: it and seen the way other teams do it, do

679
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: more than their due diligence on every main program. Now

680
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: they may just miss evaluate a guy, uh, but I

681
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: think they're pretty locked into every team. It's easier in

682
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: the NFL because there's just a set number of teams.

683
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: In college, every year is different, Like one year USC

684
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: may have four first rounders, the following year they may

685
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: not have one. Alabama in Ohio state right now are

686
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: cash cows. But like Michigan, one year may have one

687
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: first rounder, the next like in the next couple of years,

688
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: they'll probably have four. Like it's a pretty fluid The

689
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: NC State just had what, you know, three defensive linemen

690
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: go on the top like a picks. Well, next year

691
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: they're gonna have none, you know. So it's just it's

692
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: a fluid process. In the NFL, every year, the New

693
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: York Giants are gonna have some guys, you know, every year,

694
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: the Rams and the Niners. Every year, every team has

695
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of pros. In college football, it's not like that,

696
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: so you'd spend a bunch of time, Like if you're

697
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: doing the West Coast on Oregon State, well, one year

698
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: they might not have a draftable player, so you're better

699
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: off spending more of your time, you know, at uh

700
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: smaller school like cal Paly for example, And it's a

701
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: little biased. I went there, but may on a given

702
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: year have two guys that are gonna get drafted in

703
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: the fourth round. You're better off spending multiple days there

704
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: than multiple days at Oregon State. So I think it's

705
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: all a balance and It's a very fluid process because

706
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Speaker 1: every year changes year to year. Quick question from Reggie,

707
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Speaker 1: what kind of contract can you see Jared Goff getting

708
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: Being that he's so connected to Carson Wentz, same agent,

709
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: comparable year two's in going one two in the draft,

710
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good question. Went should be paid more,

711
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Speaker 1: But how much more? I think we need to pump

712
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: our brakes a little bit on Jared Goff, Dak Prescott,

713
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz getting paid. Obviously, Carson Wentz before we

714
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Speaker 1: got injured, looked like he was gonna just get in

715
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Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money. But then he tours a

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Speaker 1: c L Let's see how he plays this year when

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Speaker 1: you draft a guy in the first round. Now I

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Speaker 1: put Dak in a different category because this contract shorter.

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Speaker 1: But both these guys have fifth year options, so they're

720
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Speaker 1: on five year contracts. Obviously that both their fifth year

721
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: options are gonna get picked up their first two years.

722
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Speaker 1: Especially Jared Goff took a massive step, so did Carson Wentz.

723
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Speaker 1: But you look at both of them, you're two years

724
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Speaker 1: away from having to pay him. You're not gonna pay

725
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Speaker 1: him this offseason. You're gonna pay them in two years.

726
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Speaker 1: So let's just see how they play out. We always

727
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: love to pay reading the article or not an article,

728
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: but seeing a headline the other day about is Dak

729
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Prescott the next hundred million dollar quarterback? He's played two seasons.

730
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: Let's see him play his third season. And you know what,

731
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Speaker 1: if his third season is just okay, why wouldn't the

732
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Speaker 1: Cowboys just roll it back because they're gonna have to

733
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: pay him a lot anyway, so they could always enfranchise

734
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Speaker 1: him in two years. I think we get so ahead

735
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Speaker 1: of ourselves on what you're gonna have to pay a guy.

736
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Speaker 1: The only time I worry about what you're gonna have

737
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: to pay a guy is when you actually have to

738
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Speaker 1: pay the guy, Like right now with Khalil Mcin Aaron Donald,

739
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: like that, that's an important question, but two years ago

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Speaker 1: that that really wasn't Now. I understand to build your team,

741
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: you always think big picture, but just from a fans

742
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: perspective or just from where we're sitting, I I don't

743
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: think that's the most important information because so much can

744
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: change injuries. You just never know how many guys do

745
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: you think like? And again I'm not trying to This

746
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: is kind of a bad example because he had a

747
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: bunch off the field issues, But two years into Altin

748
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: Smith's career, we thought he was gonna be the highest

749
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: paid defensive lineman ever. Obviously, Jared Goffin, Carson Wentz, you

750
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: would never think are gonna have issues like that, But

751
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: you just never know. You just never know with any

752
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: individual player off the field stuff, injuries, they're just they's

753
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 1: just their play. Guys made plateau. So I just think

754
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: we need to pump the brakes a little bit on

755
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: what we're gonna pay these guys until we see them

756
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: rattle off like part of the reason Drew Brees and

757
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and you know, the Philip Rivers and the

758
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisbergers make so much. They've played so long, Like,

759
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: let's do it for four or five years before really

760
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: we annoy anyone else. Now, if you get into the

761
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: situation like you could go middle Coffoy, you just promoted

762
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Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo signing. He's only started seven games. That

763
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: was a unique situation. They had to make a decision,

764
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, with these two guys, you don't And that's

765
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Speaker 1: that's really the best thing for these organizations is they

766
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: don't really need make it a decision. They got a

767
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: couple of years to wait, so let's just let's just

768
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: wait and see how it goes. Can Jared Goff play

769
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: back to back seasons at that level? Can Carson Wentz

770
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: maintain his level off this off this injury? You know,

771
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: can Carson Wentz stay healthy? I don't know if time

772
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: will tell. Okay, good question here from Kobe d If

773
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Speaker 1: you were building a team beside quarterback, what positions would

774
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Speaker 1: you rank as the most valuable and would you build

775
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: and would you rank build the team around? To me,

776
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: non quarterback, who's just in a level by itself, the

777
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: most important positions haven't really changed over the you know,

778
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: the last twenty years. Walsh always thought, Bill Walsh, you

779
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: ever heard of him? Coach thought, obviously the quarterback most

780
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: important position. And then the two most important positions are

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00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: the guy protecting the quarterback, the left tackle. You can

782
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: throw the right tackle in there now too, and then

783
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the guy across from them rushing the quarterback. And in

784
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: his example is always Lawrence Taylor. You know now it's

785
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: the Khalil Max, it's the von Miller's. I do think

786
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: the importance of having good interior offensive linement is more

787
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: important because there are a lot better interior defensive linement now.

788
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: So I think you can expand when you just say

789
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Speaker 1: offensive line and defensive line instead of just pass, rusher

790
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: and tackle. I do think that's fair, you know, to say,

791
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: like having a collegio assembly is a good thing having,

792
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, drafting Quit Nelson, Wow, I don't know if

793
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I do it in the top ten. Having him on

794
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: your team is really important, just like having Aaron Donald

795
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: or you know, a couple of years ago, J. J.

796
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: Watt used to rush from the inside is equally as

797
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: important as having Khalil Mack and Von Miller consistently running

798
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: from the edge. So I do think I've changed there

799
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: a little, uh, just in terms of the offensive defensive

800
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: line encompasses all the positions. As Howard Mudd told me,

801
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: people always love to say, and he thought it was

802
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: pretty lazy, you gotta have left tackle feet. He's like,

803
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: what the hell is left tackle feet? It does? Does

804
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: that mean a right tackle can be slow? I look

805
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: at the NFL and he was coming from the Indianapolis

806
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: Colts in the heyday with Peyton Man, and he goes,

807
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: we have Robert Mathis and Dwight for any like, good

808
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: luck having your right tackle will be a slug, will

809
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: kick his ass. Nowadays you play the Denver Broncos. You

810
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: know this fall you could if thonn Miller's not lined

811
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: up over you, Bradley Chubb will be good luck blocking

812
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that guy. If you're right tackle sucks. Guess where Khalil

813
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Mac lines up the majority of the time over the

814
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: right tackle. So to me, both tackle spots are extremely important,

815
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: probably more than ever. So it's just the the lines,

816
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's always kind of been cliche. You

817
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: build up front, but I don't know if it's ever

818
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: been more important, just because of how much money you're

819
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: paying the quarterback. And you look at Chris Baller, I

820
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: thought he had a really good draft, even though again

821
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't love taking Quentin Nelson, but I don't dispute

822
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: that he's an excellent player. So you take Quentin Nelson,

823
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Speaker 1: you take another guard in the second round, Like you're

824
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: paying Andrew Luck all this money. If he is able

825
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: to come back, you have to protect him. Protecting your

826
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: quarterback is extremely important, and it's never been more important

827
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Speaker 1: in a day and age when you're paying the guy

828
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Speaker 1: three million dollars. John uh this is from Mike and Valencia, California. Guy, Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you feel that Oakland's draft now proves that Gruden

830
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: is calling the shots? If so, what do you think

831
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: that means for Reggie? I think on the draft proved

832
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: that Gruden was calling the shots. It was a coach

833
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: driven draft. They were drafting guys like in the second round,

834
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 1: p J Hall from a small school that most teams

835
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Speaker 1: that I talked to had in the fourth and fifth

836
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Speaker 1: round that Gruden in his defensive line, and Paul Gunnser loved,

837
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: which is fine. Uh, as long as, like Belichick, your

838
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: head coach. I don't know if John Gruden has proven

839
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: that he's a good enough personnel guy to run a draft.

840
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: What do I think it means for Reggie? I just

841
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: think that his power has been greatly stripped. Mark Davis

842
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: loves him. He's not gonna fire him, but and Reggie's

843
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: not gonna quit. I mean, you don't bypass he's making

844
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: seven figures. You don't just leave that money on the table.

845
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I think he's just in a tough position that any

846
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: human and would probably struggle with. He lost a lot

847
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: of power. He helped build the team and resurrect them.

848
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: The one his one downfall, And I'd say this the

849
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: one red flag for Reggie is just his first head coach.

850
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: When he had the chance of Mark Davis gave him

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Speaker 1: And then it turned out Mark was kind of right

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Speaker 1: Reggie didn't want Jack. He wanted Tony Sprawno, which would

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Speaker 1: when your owner can't trust you to hire the coach,

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Speaker 1: the jump when that's the case. So Gruden will say

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Speaker 1: all the right things. I just think Reggie is will

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Speaker 1: he got Khalil and and Uh and Derek and even

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Speaker 1: but you can't take an unlimited amount of flyers on

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Speaker 1: character guys like you take make one move from Martavis Bryant. Okay,

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Speaker 1: stop there. Take Darryl Worley that was just arrested for

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Speaker 1: and basically it felt like a forty hour stretch. That's

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Speaker 1: a lot. So I think Gruden could really benefit from

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Speaker 1: having some help and having someone did he respects to

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Speaker 1: kind of help balance his opinions out. And right right now,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have it. Gruden's just basically running a dictatorship

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Speaker 1: and in Oakland, and really Mark Davis has say that

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm paying him a hundred million. Make every

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Speaker 1: damn decision. Okay, Thanksully. Again, we're getting into the off season.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep pumping these out, keep firing me the questions.

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Speaker 1: I'll keep providing you the content, and we'll keep having

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Speaker 1: some fun. I appreciate everyone listening. Subscribe, rate and again

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