WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Rock and Roll All Nite 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.480 Hi, get everybody. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:05.360 I'm Dan Horden. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.160 Thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast b I want 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:15.200 to rock and roll on the addition, as we get 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.599 set for a Sunday Night primetime showdown between two of 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.040 the best teams in the AFC, the Bengals and the 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:25.560 Buffalo Bills. Coming up, I'll visit with the voice of 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.360 Sunday Night Football on NBC, Mike Turrico. Jonah Williams joins 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.239 me to discuss what a healthy Joe Burrow means to 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.440 everybody else. On offense, we'll hear from the tight end 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:38.920 who's been added to the roster, and in this week's 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.000 Know the Faux segment, we'll get the latest down the 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.480 Bills from Tyler Dunn. The Bengals Booth Podcast is brought 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:46.440 to you by pay Corps, proud to be the Bengals 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:51.120 official HR software provider, by Alta Fiber future proof fiber 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:54.520 Internet designed to elevate your home, business, and community to 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.720 a new level, and by Kettering Health the best care 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.040 for the best fans. Kettering Health is the official healthcare 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:04.440 provider of the Bengals. Now here's a quick reminder that 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.240 you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.880 write to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing wherever 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.120 you get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since actor 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.679 Jeremy Strong. About a year ago, I jumped down the 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.959 bandwagon and started watching the TV show Succession. I watched 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.800 two episodes, didn't really enjoy them, and punted well. After 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.319 much badgering from friends and family, I decided to give 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.640 it another shot, and by episode six I was officially hooked. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.720 There are four seasons of the show. I've just started 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.199 season two, and I am bowled over by the performance 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.000 of Jeremy Strong, who plays Kendall Roy. If you haven't 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.000 watched the show, I don't think I'll be spoiling anything 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.400 to say that. There's an accident in season one and 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:58.440 his performance in the immediate aftermath is extraordinary. He won 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.400 an Emmy for Outstanding Lead Up and now I know why. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.240 So if you haven't watched Succession, give it a shot, 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:10.079 even if you don't enjoy the first few episodes. Now, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.920 let's get to the Bengals and Bills. Remember when we 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.519 used to worry when the Bengals played in primetime. Thankfully 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.280 those days are over. The Bengals are one to zero 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.480 in primetime this year with a Week three win over 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.640 the Rams, and they won their last primetime game last 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.320 year when they beat the Ravens in the first round 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.560 of the playoffs. Mike Tarico and Chris Collinsworth called that 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:37.200 game on NBC, and I caught up with Mike on Wednesday. Mike, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.799 the last Bengals game you called featured arguably the most 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.440 iconic play in franchise history, the fumble in the jungle 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.840 by the Cincinnati kid as you called Sam Hubbard. What 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.720 are your most vivid memories of that play and that night. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:53.760 Well, it was one of those and you know, damn 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.160 the exact spot where the booth is. It's one of 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.680 those sometimes you don't see who comes out of the pile, right, 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.520 you don't know who's going to have the ball. And 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.360 I just had a dead eye look right at Sam 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.400 when the play happened, and happened to see the play 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:08.320 because it was happening so fast. Remember, the Ravens rushed 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:11.320 to the huddle. And it's just like there are benefits 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.560 of years of doing something right. So having the Bengals 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.560 Raiders Wild Card game the year before and doing our 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.560 production meeting and talking to Sam about all the local 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.960 ties from Cincinnati on through to Ohio State and all 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.160 that stuff. It just that was just in my head. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.720 And sometimes when we prepare for games, I like to 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.000 just think of somebody with a bumper sticker, if you will, Like, 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.600 how do you describe this guy? You know, like buffalo 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:38.760 at James Cook. Okay, he's Dalvin's brother boom right away, right, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.080 you just and when I was going through preparation for 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.320 that Raiders game, like, Okay, he's the Cincinnati kid, right, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.880 He's that guy, right, So he's the local, he's the 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.160 home down here living the dream. And I'm a big 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.360 living the dream guy. So when we catch somebody who 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:54.240 is doing it, you love to see it. But that 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.960 was that was such a fun play and a memorable play, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.280 and the Mark Andrews' effort from the Ravens on that play, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.240 like fighting did that sticks in my mind too, as 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.560 much as the celebration after and the place going nuts. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.120 Was That's why Mark Andrews is an All Pro player. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.520 You know, I know we're talking Bengals here, but that's 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.800 the that's the effort of a great player. And that 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.719 plus everything that happened after that after he scored was 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.040 uh was something else? Stick with me for a long time, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:24.840 as it will for Bengals fans as well. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.240 Mike, I'm gonna bring up another possible bumper sticker. On 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.800 the Super Bowl pregame show a couple of years ago, 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.480 you had an interesting description for Joe Burrow. You said 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:38.200 he had embraceable cockiness, two words that don't go together 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.760 all that often. How did you mean embraceable cockiness? And 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.520 what do you think of Joe Burrow's leadership? 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.880 The dude pulls out the cigar to smoke the cigar 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:50.520 when he wins, right and like you're going come on, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.960 I can't, but you like him, like there's a warmth, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:57.080 there's a there's I want to hang with Joe Burrow. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:59.400 Joe Burrow's got a the way he dresses coming into 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.760 games right, Like there's something about him that is really 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.960 cocky and very confident. Sometimes that is an off putting 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:11.960 characteristic of individuals. Joe Burrow's cockiness is never about look 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.400 at me. It's like, hey, I got this and I'm 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:20.480 bringing my guys with me. So I personally embrace his cockiness. 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.200 I love it. And I'm not a guy who's big 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.120 on you know you score a touchdown, you point to 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:26.920 the back of your jersey. Hey, look at my name, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.920 but we just said your name, dude, But I got 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.960 it at your moment, celebrates you want. I don't won't 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.159 be the old guy in the corner of the barbershop 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:35.800 because you and I don't go to barbershops anymore. But 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.440 I just love what Joe Burrows about. And you could 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.320 see it last week, right, you could just see that's 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.240 the Joe Burrow, that's the guy. And Chris and I Collinsworth, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.000 we were toying around as we were watching Justin Herbert 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:53.840 of the Chargers last week. Okay, how good is he? 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:54.000 Well? 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.000 Who are the best? And we got into full talk 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.120 radio mode, give me your best quarterbacks, right, and Joe 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.320 Burrows in he's he's not even the conversations like, okay, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.480 so you got Mahomes right, you got josh Awdie and 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.080 you got Burrow. Yeah all right? And then what right? 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.120 So that's how good he is. So this is a 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.080 great time and it's good to see him back to 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.719 that inside the Velvet Rope club type of performance like 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.440 we saw last week. And Santa Cleric, excuse me, we. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:20.719 Are visiting with Mike Terrico. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.640 Exactly one month ago, the Bengals lost by twenty four 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.640 at Tennessee to fall to one in three. Did you 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:31.920 have any concern that NBC might have a Sunday Night 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.640 done on its hands at this point of the year. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.200 No. And we've been looking at the schedule and there 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.279 are a couple that are sticking out like sore thumbs 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:43.200 right now, but not this one for a couple of reasons. One, 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.880 it's the Buffalo factor, which is very similar to the 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.080 Cincinnati factor. I think there's a great parallel in these 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.280 two quarterbacks, and they keep your team in every game, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.279 So there is that. I think also the experience of 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.160 last year. I mean, the Bengals are pretty much right 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.440 back where they were last year and then got on 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.880 this roll. Was it ten in a row last year? 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.839 And you know it's there and you know that, Okay, 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.120 this isn't a team that's lost a ton of their talent. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:13.280 Most of those key people are there. There's the interchange 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.920 of one year one there. You know, you're younger in 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:18.760 the back end than you were, and the concern with 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.880 the safeties and all that, but you know, the quarterback, 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:28.400 if he got healthy, the offense around him. Lou Anarumo, who, man, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.080 does that guy deserve as much credit as any coordinator 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.640 around the league. It is season in, season out now 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:39.280 the steadiness, and it's the stability Dan you know, you go, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:43.400 Darren Simmons special teams coordinator, Brian Callahan an offense, Lou 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.720 on the defense, and you know, and and the head 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:50.040 coaching job obviously that that Zack's done. It's the same group. 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.200 It's like we're coming in here for the last four years, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:57.040 same same dudes, same guys. That doesn't happen in the NFL. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.640 Just look at Buffalo. Leslie Frasier's not there now right, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.320 there's a change in that spot. Brian Dable has been 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.480 gone the last couple of years. Doesn't mean that Kenny 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.960 Dorsey is not doing a good job or Saw McDermott's 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.360 not doing a good job as the defensive cordat calling 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.520 the places. Excuse me as the head coach. It just 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:17.920 is changed and there's been stability, steadiness and investing in 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:22.320 your best natural talents in Cincinnati, which is not something 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.400 we said on this franchise for many years. And it's 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.720 great to see because the fan base is being rewarded 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.160 by it and we as fans are being rewarded. So 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:33.880 to answer your question, I didn't think this was gonna 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.520 end up being a dud. And then obviously the storyline 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.000 of last year and what happened on January second at 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.360 that stadium when those two teams met, that had this 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.760 circled right from when the schedule came out as it's 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:52.199 going to be an emotional night and an exciting night 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.920 too for a lot of reasons off the field and 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:55.880 on the field as well. 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.640 We saw real heroism that night with the way first 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.920 response under his doctors and trainers save the life of 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.520 DeMar Hamlin. Anything special plan for Sunday Night football this week. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.840 You know, it changes a little bit. DeMar hasn't been 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.120 playing right, and why hasn't it been playing? He's the 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.920 fourth safety on this team, and that's either a special 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:17.439 team's role that the Bills have a couple of really 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.480 good special teamers, so there's not the need to have 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.199 him elevate and active. But I watched him practice a 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.640 couple of weeks ago in Buffalo, and he's right as 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.319 much of a part of a practice as any other 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.080 player who's a healthy and active which is great to see, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.160 you know, I think for us, it'll be talked about, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.360 certainly in the body of the game as well, and 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:39.920 all sort of appreciation, not just for the folks on 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.840 the field that night, but also the people of Cincinnati 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:47.200 who show their true colors, I think in their support, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:52.079 the way the sixty thousand plus in the building reacted 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:58.719 that night, the outpouring of support, affection, belief, prayer from 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.080 Bengals fans. So I think we'll touch on all of 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:04.959 those as the game goes on. I think it'd be 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.200 a little bit different if he was playing in the game, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:10.320 or something happens during the weekends up being active. I 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.840 think that would change the conversation a little bit. But 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.120 since he's not on the field, as you're going through 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.360 a game, within the body of the game, there's not 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.680 too many opportunities to stop and take that left turn. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.680 So but I certainly think we'll be talking about it 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:25.120 a bunch and how it impacted the players who were 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.680 in the game because it changed their lives forever as well. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.200 Chatted with Mike Turrico. Last week. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.280 The Bengals won their third straight and fourth in their 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.680 last five, but it was different. It was San Francisco 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.280 on the road, by fourteen points. Did they make any 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:40.560 statement with that performance last week? 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.640 Yeah, we're still here. We're still here, you know, just 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.800 to scrape the escape play by Burrow, I still haven't gone. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.120 I want to go back and listen to your call 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.400 of that. That was that was a magical play because 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.400 he's he's done three times on that play and he 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:01.600 gets out and he makes a great play, and that 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.040 just told you he's back in. The deeper drops were 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.400 the thing to meet Dan and watching the game, you know, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.360 you go back and you watch before the buye the 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.160 game before the bye against Seattle and then balls out 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.559 quick quick, quick, quick, quick quick, and this game it 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.880 felt a little bit a little more comfort of taking 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.680 a deep drop, keeping a play alive, those types of things, 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.520 and really attacked. I think it's a good defense in 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.080 San Francisco. We had them earlier in the season against 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.440 Dallas and they destroyed a good Cowboys team. I go, wow, 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.720 this is okay. They're in the Super Bowl. Who else 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.600 is going to be there? Right? And then you wait 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.120 three weeks and it all changes. So it was a 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.720 statement by Cincinnati to go there, do that to that 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.600 defense and look like the Bengals team We saw on 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.199 the run through the fall and winter of twenty twenty two. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.439 Here in the start of the fall and winter twenty 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.320 twenty three. Yeah, it's a statement that they're there and 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.200 they're going to be around. 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.240 Let's talk about the Bills for a second. They've outscored 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.800 opponents by more points than any other team in the 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.360 l They beat the Dolphins by twenty eight, but they've 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.439 got three losses. What accounts for that roller coaster ride 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:07.000 in Buffalo. 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.640 Yeah, it's a good question, Dan. It has been similar 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.440 but not the same as the Burrow issue. When Josh 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:20.720 Allen is moving and aggressively threatening to run if not running, 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.880 this team is different, right, and I don't think they're 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.000 there just yet. I also think they're undergoing a little 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:32.000 bit of a seed change. I think John McDermott, undefeated 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.560 wrestler as a high school senior right, a wrestling guy 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.960 now calling the defense. I think he wants to establish 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.680 some running toughness, physicality in this game. If you go 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.080 back to the playoff game last year up in Orchard Park, 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.600 the Bengals ran the ball effectively. The Bills did not 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.360 at all. Josh Allen was their leading rusher in that game. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.559 I think Buffalo and Sean knows that they've got to 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.520 have some of that as the season goes on, and 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.720 it's trying to find where that balance is and how 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.920 you can do it most effectively. So I think that 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.120 that stopped them here. And also they've had some key 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:10.040 losses all along their front Daikwon Jones, Matt Mulano, tra 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:13.200 Davius White. At each level, they've lost one of their 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.280 best performers. So now they're fitting new pieces in. Some 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.640 of those new pieces are pretty good and they're getting there. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:22.280 So I like their pickup of Rasuel Butler in a trade. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.000 I think they're gonna have a couple of corners now 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:28.440 who can play. So overall, I think the Bills can 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.959 be as good as we saw in that Miami game. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:32.920 They just need to find their way. I just want 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.640 to see the Bengals can beat somebody outside of the 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:38.080 NFC West. I congratulate the congratulate the Bengals in their 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.920 NFC West title, right, that's maybe the most bizarre thing 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:42.640 that here are the Bengals. I feel like they can 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.600 make a run here in the AFC. They might be 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.079 the best team. They haven't beaten a team in the 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:49.240 AFC yet four and zero against the NFC West. So 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.960 this is a great measuring stick for both teams right now. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.319 But I also think a huge game because if they 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.520 can't get to Miami and the AFC East, or can't 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.559 get to Baltimore at the top of the af SEE North, 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.440 you know, if it starts coming down seats five and 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.000 six and seven. Nice to have a win over one 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.840 of these other like minded animals. So it's an important 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:09.720 game for both teams. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.040 They're definitely two of the best teams in the AFC. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.199 What are a couple of your keys on Sunday night? 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.600 The ability of Burrow to extend plays and how do 0:14:19.640 --> 0:14:24.920 the Bills defensive backs plaster to Chase and Higgins and 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.120 the rest of the crew and Boyd who know every 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.200 game boy makes a big catch's So it's so neat 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.320 to neat to see that. I love that. Can Buffalo 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.960 run the ball? I think will be important Cincinnati pass 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:39.720 protection because sometimes those escapes, whether it's the Houdini Act 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.560 or the get out of the pocket and run for 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.880 Joe Burrow, is because the protection breaks down and Oliver 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.800 ninety one for Buffalo pushes the pocket in the middle. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.320 The edge rushers. Von Miller is coming on, getting more 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.000 snaps now around twenty nine to thirty snaps a game. 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.120 Greg Russo is starting to have an impact. Fifty off 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.720 the edge for Buffalo Leonard Floyd, but they rotate a 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.680 bunch of good players in there. I'm an ajp and 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.000 as a fan fifty seven keeping on forty three for 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.920 their defense too, Ture Bernard. So those are a couple 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.120 of keys the Bills pressure. Is Joe Burrow running for 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.880 his life or is he running to get out of harmsway, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.360 keep a play alive and hit a big one downfield. 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.320 And then on the other side, you know this Bengals 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.200 defense has done a terrific job. And you know this 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.640 in the second half the last few weeks against Seattle 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:28.800 and San Francisco, what a good job. And those late 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.760 game plays, And when teams start to make plays in 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.880 the red zone in the second half of close games 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.840 against good teams, they start believing what they can do. 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.240 And I get a sense that this Cincinnati defense starting 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.280 to feel pretty good about what they can do against 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.840 anybody in the league. So I watch for them late 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.680 in games in passing situations as Josh Allen, who can 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.840 put the ball in Harm's way is running around, the 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.880 Cincinnati team can take it away, so I think that'll 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.080 be a big part of the game as well. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:15:59.280 Mike, always appreciate your time. 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.160 I hope Worth treat you to a great dinner at 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.720 one of Cincinnati's finest establishments over the weekend. Look forward 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.080 to seeing you in the booth on Sunday. 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.160 Augusta is a tradition like any other, so is a 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.040 Collinsworth Cincinnati party, so we will take care of that. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.520 And I can't wait to see you on Sunday, Pal, 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:17.560 and keep up for great work. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.320 Mike spoke at length about the Bills pass rush. Buffalo 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.800 has twenty eight sacks. That's tied for second in the NFL, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.760 behind the Ravens, who have thirty one, and Von Miller 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.320 doesn't even have one yet he missed the first four 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.800 games of the year due to injury. It's going to 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.200 be a big challenge for the Bengals offensive line. And 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.640 I spoke to right tackle Jonah Williams about Sunday Night's 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.880 game and his season to date journal last week, Coach 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.520 Taylor picked six Californians to go out for the coin 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.280 Toss at San Francisco you were among them. I guess 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.240 your hometown is a couple of hours away in Fulsome California. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.480 Did you know that was coming and was it meaningful? 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.160 It was meaningful. I got the text, I think the 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.600 day before, and it was just it was really excited. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:16:59.920 He was my first time being a captain in the 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.280 NFL walking out for the coin toss. So I thought 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:07.120 that was a cool gesture by Zach and started off 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.040 the game on a high note. 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.960 I think we can safely say that Joe Burrow's calf 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.040 is one hundred percent. He looked great running around last week. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.919 What's that mean for the offensive line that he is 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.560 not a stationary target? 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.000 It makes things easier on us for sure, you know, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.480 and it just adds one more multiple to our offense. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:29.000 You know, Joe's arms is a huge component our receiving corps. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.159 And then you know, we want to establish the ground 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.240 game with our you know, super talented backs, so that 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.520 that's line one. But then if you can also attack 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.720 them with the quarterback's legs, it just takes everything to 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.679 another level. So it was great to see that and 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.240 glad he's feeling good and we're ready. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.760 To roll on the opening series last week he had 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.280 that one Houdini escape where he got away from what 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.720 looked like a couple of sacks and eventually completed it 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:55.200 past the t Higgins, you're blocking your guy on that play? 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:56.880 When do you have a sense of what's going on? 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.959 When I'm watching the film after no, you know, I 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.439 was blocking my guy and kind of the way it 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.520 played out is I wasn't really able to see him 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.280 or get close to him. I know Cap and Orlando 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.400 had two big blocks where there guy was a little 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:15.080 bit more involved, or they were at least facing Joe 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.199 and could pick people off of them, So that was 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.479 great by them, But I didn't know what was going on. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:20.960 I was just kind of chasing. 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.240 My guy around and you kind of hear the crowd 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.199 going crazy, so I knew something was going on. But 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.840 it was awesome to see that, and it helped us 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.639 tremendously on that first drive to get the conversion and 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.199 not be forced upon, and that totally changed the momentum 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:34.640 of the game. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:38.159 We're visiting the Jonah Williams. Now that he's healthier, you 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.800 can run plays under center where he takes the direct 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.359 snap because he can push off on his calf and 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.400 you did that thirteen times in the San Francisco game. 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:48.520 That's more than you had had done that in the 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.760 first six games of the season combined. How much does 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.920 that expand the offense, specifically the running game. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:00.720 It changes the angles for the back, which allows us 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.960 to be a little bit more downhill, and it adds 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.359 a lot of variety to our offense as well. You know, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.600 we had I don't know how many, but a handful 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.600 of runs under center, but also we had some play 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.720 actions coming out of that, And anytime you can do that, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.040 it just makes our job easier, you know. I think 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.280 the hardest thing to do is no line is just 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:21.439 to drop back, drop back, pass straight up and they're rushing. 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.239 It kind of makes everything feel like they'red down. So 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:26.960 when you're able to change things up and we're still 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.520 allowing our receivers to do what they do and allowing 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.160 Joe to do what he does, but taking a little 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.639 pressure off of us, that's that's obviously really nice. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.679 You've won three straight and four out of five, but 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.240 in the wins before San Francisco, it almost felt to 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.600 me like there was a little bit of an asterisk, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.960 Like in the Rams and Seahawks games, the offense sputtered 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.639 in the Cardinals game. They're not having a great season, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:50.880 They've only got one win. But last week you beat 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.000 a great team on the road and every aspect of 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:57.240 the Bengals team was solid. Did it feel differently to 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:57.720 you guys? 0:19:58.040 --> 0:19:58.400 It did? 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.720