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The Los Angeles 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Lakers controlled a game for two and a half quarters, 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: had a ten point second half lead, and completely fell apart, 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: lost by twenty four to the San Antonio Spurs, a 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: Spurs team that has been reeling, that had lost six 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: out of nine games coming in. We're going to talk 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: about that one. And then in the second half of 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the show, the Detroit Pistons, who've been playing great basketball 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: as of late, continue that, winning their ninth time in 46 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: eleven games, this time on the road against the New 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: York Knicks, and a very interesting chess match type of 48 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: game that we'll be breaking down from the perspective of 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: both teams. Just a quick show today. Tomorrow I plan 50 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: on doing some more like trade deadline centric stuff as 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: well as some instant reaction content. You guys know the 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Joe before we get started. Subscribe to the Hoop Tonight 53 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: YouTube channels. 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So again, Lakers really 60 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: control things for the first two and a half quarters, 61 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: and a run started, and as has typically been the 62 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: case for the Lakers this year, when the run started, 63 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: they legitimate They let go of the rope and got 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Ryan out of the damn gym, and it started with 65 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: defense for the Spurs. They started forcing turnovers and getting 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: out in transition again. They were up by ten and 67 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: Trey Jones stonewalls Austin Reeves on a drive, forces a turnover. 68 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: The Spurs run out and they score. Wemby jumps a 69 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: lazy swing pass out by half court from Gave Vincent 70 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: to Anthony Davis, he runs out, gets a dunk, Keldon 71 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: Johnson strips Lebron James. There's a bunch of turnovers that 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: were leading to run out opportunities for the Spurs, and 73 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: then also out They just kind of invigorated them and 74 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: they just started outworking the Lakers. They started beating them 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: to every single loose ball. The Lakers were having a 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: ton of issues on the offensive glass with the back 77 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: end of their switching scheme. Essentially, like as they would switch, 78 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: there'd be all of a sudden, a big on a 79 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 1: little underneath the basket, and they just get an offensive rebound, 80 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: they get an offensive rebound that leads to a Keldon 81 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: Johnson wing three that ties the game going into the 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And then in the fourth quarter it was 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: entirely about the Spurs torching the Lakers switching scheme. So 84 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Devin Vassell ending up with Anthony Davis on him a bunch. 85 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: He had that crazy dunk in the end of the 86 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: third quarter stretch where he just drove right past Anthony 87 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: Davis and dunked on his head. Harrison Barnes picking on 88 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: the smaller Laker perimeter players, guys like Austin Reeves, guys 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: like Max Christy who's decent against guards but can struggle 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: against bigger body guys that can kind of bully him 91 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: to space. And again, a huge part of beating any 92 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: switching scheme you can imagine, we always think about, like, 93 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: you know, a guard in a pick and roll, getting 94 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: a big on a switch and then him isoating that guy. Right, 95 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: that's a lot we've seen a lot of that. We're 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna talking about that later in today's show, with like 97 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: the stuff that Jalen Brunson was trying to do to 98 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Duran and Isaiah Stewart, right, like in this case 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Devian Vessel against a guy like Anthony Davis. But there's 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a flip side to that, which is you're getting guys 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: that are inside position against smaller guards. Charles Bassi had 102 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: three offensive rebounds in this game. Every single one of 103 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: them was on the second half of a switch on 104 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: that when he was being guarded by a smaller player 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: because of a switch. And the Spurs just methodically walked 106 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: the Lakers out of their own gym in that fourth quarter. 107 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: They forced more turnovers. Lebron was just so incredibly sloppy 108 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: in this one. They think he had seven or eight turnovers. 109 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: They were getting stops, they were getting great shots every 110 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: single time down the floor. Chris Paul hit a couple 111 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: of big ones. Just a really really bad loss for 112 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: a Lakers team against the Spurs team, and that again 113 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: had lost six times in their last nine games coming 114 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: into the game. The Spurs had an offensive rating of 115 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: just one oh eight point three in their six losses. 116 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: They posted a one forty eight offensive rating in that 117 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And so these are the things that stood 118 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: out to me on the Lakers front. First and foremost, 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: this is a message to JJ Reddick. You have to 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: give up on this damn switch everything scheme that you're 121 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: using in the regular season. For the record, I get 122 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: why you're using it. You theoretically have a roster with 123 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: Lebron James and Anthony Davis and Dorian Finney Smith and 124 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Ruwiy Hatch Merger Vanderbilt when he comes back, Max Chrissy 125 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: cam Reddish. You've got all these big athletes that theoretically 126 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: should be able to guard different types of position groups. 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: So why don't we try switching? And I do like 128 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: switching as a defensive scheme in principle because it shuts 129 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: down screening actions. Right, Like if they run a pick 130 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: and roll, or they run some sort of wide off 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: ball screen for a shooter and you can just switch it, 132 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: the guy with the ball or the guy who's looking 133 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: to shoot coming off the screen is not going to 134 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: be able to come off free and clearer with the 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: defender trailing him. He's gonna have someone waiting for him there, right, 136 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: That's what shuts down the screening actions. That's what eventually 137 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: baits teams into playing ISO and post up ball. Right. 138 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: Stop moving the ball around, stop trusting your teammates. Just 139 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: go try to play one on one against us. That's 140 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: why I like switching. I believe in switching as a scheme. 141 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: There are teams in this league who do it really well. 142 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is you don't actually 143 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: have the right dudes to run this scheme. Why. Because 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: you need high motor athletes that fly around in order 145 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 1: for switching to work. Why you need them to fight 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: hard to not concede bad switches. Don't just switch for 147 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: the sake of switching. Switch when you have to, especially 148 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: when it involves an inferior defensive player in a precarious 149 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: situation and who would be switching onto two. You need 150 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: them to fly around and help and recover situations when 151 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: you're switching. It doesn't mean everyone goes and sits down 152 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and you just play one on one. You load up, 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you gap, you get into the nail, help, you get 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: into driving lanes, you help on the backside. You clog 155 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: things up, and you rotate out of it so that 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: those ISOs aren't just ISOs, but they're bad ISOs. That's 157 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. And then last you need 158 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: all of them to crash the glass hard. Inherently with switching, 159 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: you give up size mismatches on the offensive glass. You 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: have to compensate for that with a five man rebounding effort. 161 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: So in order for a switching scheme to work, you 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: have to have a certain type of athlete all over 163 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: the floor, a hard working, natural motor athlete that is 164 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: willing to fight through some screens when it avoids a 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: bad switch, that is willing to fly around and help 166 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: and recover situations, that is willing to get there, get 167 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: to get dirty fighting for rebounds. And Lebron and Anthony 168 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: Davis are just not those guys anymore. They're not interested 169 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: in working that hard. Lebron more so than Ad. But 170 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Lebron last night was just like straight up unwilling to 171 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: help at the rim. He was unwilling to fight for 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: contested rebounds. I can't tell you how many times he's 173 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: just ground band standing around, has his arms out, kind 174 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: of looking up as a younger athlete just comes flying 175 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: in and grabs the rebound over the top of everybody 176 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: not being willing to. There was a simple ball screen 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: with a drop off er dunk to Charles Bassi and 178 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter where Lebron was just like, I'm not gonna 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: make the low man rotation just didn't feel like it. 180 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: It was a really bad Lebron game. He was generally unfocused, 181 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: slop you with the basketball, not rebounding, not defending. It 182 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: just it just won't a good Lebron game. But it's 183 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: actually an issue in the big picture with Lebron AD 184 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: in the regular season and something I've been talking about consistently. 185 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: These guys are not going to come into the gym 186 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: every night and be like, I'm here to work. They're 187 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: coasting most of the time, specifically Lebron. So like when 188 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: it comes to the switching scheme, like it might be 189 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: a useful look for you in the postseason, I'm not 190 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: saying abandon it entirely. When Lebron and AD are playing 191 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: with more desperation and you have DFS and Ruie and 192 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: vandel on the floor or in the rotation with them, 193 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: I think it can work a little bit more. But 194 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: in the regular season you are signing yourself up for 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: failure by doing this, because you're just going to concede 196 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 1: bad switches. Stand around, watch a guy work one on one, 197 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: probably score, get an end one, and if he doesn't, 198 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an offensive rebound. You give up a 199 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: one forty eight offensive rating. In that fourth quarter to 200 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: a team that couldn't score for the last three weeks. 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: It just was frustrating to watch because, like weirdly enough, 202 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: when things turned around, they didn't switch as much. They 203 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: did a ton to start the year. They started running 204 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: more drop coverage with they're not drop coverage but more 205 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: ball screen covered traditional ball screen coverage with ad where 206 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: he's up at the level and you have a guy 207 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: chasing over the top there. They were running more of that, 208 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: and then they just decided to stop. There's been there's 209 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: been quite a bit of it in the Dallas game 210 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and in this game, and it's killing the Lakers defense. 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: These guys are too damn lazy to run that scheme. 212 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: So even though what you're thinking as a basketball mind, JJ, 213 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: which is correct, these guys should be able to do this, 214 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: and this scheme actually has proven to work when it's 215 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: run right, you are correct, JJ. These guys can't do it. 216 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: These guys can't do it. The other thing that stood 217 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: out to me all I, Max Christy and camrat Is 218 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the two guard rotation for the Lakers, gave Vincent as 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: well sloppy turnovers. Max and Cam were five for thirteen 220 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: from the field, some really really really really ugly I 221 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: think it was actually five or eighteen from the go 222 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: is bad, some really ugly misses on threes. That's a 223 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: position group that is just not good enough to win 224 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: an NBA championship. As I've told you guys, with Max Christy, 225 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: it's not about the ceiling, it's about the floor. We 226 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: all know what Max is capable of, but young players 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: struggle to replicate it, and he wasn't good. And that's 228 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: just a position group that if this team has any 229 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: intention of getting to where they want to go, that 230 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: has to be improved. And then lastly, like this thing 231 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: where they just quit every time things get tough. I 232 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: took a little screenshot of the Synergy game chart, which 233 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: just tracks the differential in points, and if you look 234 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: at it, the Lakers were in control and control and control, 235 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: and then it's just a straight line up to twenty 236 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: four points the victory, twenty four points, spurs lead at 237 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: the end of the game, straight line, no fight. Most 238 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: games kind of go like this as teams fight, like, oh, 239 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: team went on a run, well we're going to go 240 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: on a run. Well you went on a run, Well 241 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: we're going to go on a run. The Lakers. No, 242 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: they have no interest in fighting. They have no interest 243 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: in being like, hey, things are getting tough, let's lock in, 244 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: let's get this done. They're not those guys. And that's 245 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: why I continue to think this team just isn't made 246 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: of the right stuff to win a playoff series against 247 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: a great team. Remember how I talked about how even 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: after the Houston and Dallas losses, it felt like the 249 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: Lakers were still kind of hanging on to the rope. 250 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: You just had a bunch of time off, and you 251 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: needed this win on a two game losing streak. That's 252 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: what a team that doesn't feel like hanging onto the 253 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: rope looks like. Really really disappointing loss for the Lakers. 254 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: Let's move on to Pistons Knicks more serious basketball. A 255 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: couple of methodical matchup attacking teams. The Pistons, they're attacking 256 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: matchups specifically with Cat and Brunson, right like Steady died 257 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: of attacking Cat and pick and roll, attacking Brunson and 258 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: guarde screens, that was how they ended the game. On 259 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: the Knicks front, it's attacking the bigs and ball screen, 260 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: either in switch switch ISOs or pick and pop. So 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: like bruntson attacking Isaiah Stewart, are attacking Jalen duran or 262 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: like cat pick and popping, especially against Jalen Durna because 263 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: he struggles with that coverage. Some attacking Malie Beasley and 264 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: Tomatowa Junior and guard screens. They did that late. That's 265 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: how they got the big three for McHale Bridges. But 266 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: the Pistons just did a better job of it in 267 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: this game. The Knicks made their runs and Brunson kept 268 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: things close late with some big layups at the rim, 269 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: but the Pistons felt in control of that game for 270 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: the most part. The problem is Kate and he presents 271 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: some significant problems to teams around the league. The Pistons 272 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: ran a steady diet of three man action most of 273 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: the game, a lot of wedge pick and roll in 274 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: the first quarter. Wedge pick and roll is kind of 275 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: like a ram screen pick and roll. Basically, all it 276 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: is is you have your big start at the elbow 277 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: or the man you're gonna have set, the ball screen 278 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: set at the sitting at the elbow, ball handler on 279 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: the wing, and you have a guard who's off ball 280 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: comes screen for the screener so that he can run 281 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: up into the ball screen with separation between him and 282 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: his defender before he comes off the ball screen. That's 283 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: wedge pick and roll. They ran a lot of that 284 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. Stack pick and roll. We've talked 285 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: about it before. All it is a ball screen with 286 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: someone backscreening for the role man as he's going to 287 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the basket. They ran a lot of that in the 288 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: second half. And then double drag they also ran a 289 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of that in the second Half's where you just 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: have two guys set two staggered ball screens for your 291 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: ball handler. One guy rolls, one guy pops. Like lots 292 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: of three man action from the Pistons in this game, 293 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Kate just puts you in a tough spot. In those 294 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: three man actions. If you have Mikhale bridges chase Kate 295 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: over the top, and you have Cat sit back into 296 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: drop coverage, you're a solid screen, like a really good 297 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: screen from Kad just walking into a pull up jumper, 298 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: and he hit several of those in this game. Isaiah 299 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: Stewart in particular was setting really good on ball screens 300 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: for Kate. If Mikhale does a good job and fights 301 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: over the screen and he stays attached, now he's in 302 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: trail position, and when he's in trail position, that's when 303 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: Caid can methodically work his way downhill into the short 304 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: range with that like kind of reverse post up that 305 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: I always talk about with Luka Doncics, where you get 306 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: the defender in jail on your backside and you kind 307 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: of methodically work yourself inside. Did some damage that way, 308 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: was pivoting out of it into in to turn around 309 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: jump turn around jump shots, things along those lines, right, 310 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: But the main reason that the Pistons run three man 311 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: action is to force unfavorable switches or hedges. Unfavorable switches 312 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: are the types of smaller defenders that guys like Kate 313 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: cunning him and Tobias Harris will kill if they get 314 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: him in any sort of space to work one on 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: one right, and those those guys have been feasting on 316 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: that all season. The hedges they bring two to the ball. 317 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: When you bring two to the ball in a hedge, 318 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: that's where you get the four on threes. Those are 319 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: what end up leading to those open, open three point 320 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: shots for guys like Malik Beasley and Tim Hardaway Junior, 321 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: which they've been feasting on all season. So essentially those 322 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: three man actions this is why the Pistons have been 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: the sixth best offense in the league over this eleven 324 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: game span. They run this action and Kate has an 325 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: answer for all of it. Die on the screen and 326 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: a drop kid's shooting a pull up three. Stay attached. 327 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: Cade's methodically working you into the short range. Right, start switching. 328 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: We're attacking matchups, start hedging. We're gonna play on the 329 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: four on three out of it. And they've just been 330 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: torching teams like that, and then they can go even 331 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: simpler than that in late game situations just by attacking 332 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: guards and guard screens. This is how they won the game. Right, 333 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior had Jalen Brunston on him. They run 334 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: the first one, it's a hedge and recover again. This 335 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: is what you're always gonna do with the defender like Brunson. 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: You don't want Brunson to end up on cad on 337 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: a switch, so you have him hedge, meaning you have 338 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: him run out and stop the drive at least forcing 339 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Kaid to take a retreat dribble further away from the basket, 340 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: and then you sprint back to the shooter who's slipping 341 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: out of the action. In this case, Tim Hardaway Junior. 342 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: First time they run it, Jalen Brunson's hedges Jalen Brunson 343 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: Hedges sprints back to Tim Hardaway Junior. But for whatever reason, 344 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: the Knick's hard help with Josh Hart off the weak 345 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: side corner. He comes flying up to Tim Hardaway Jr. 346 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: Simple extra pass to Malik Beasley, knocks down to three 347 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: again four on three generated by bringing two to the ball, 348 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: which is the hedge that Brunson brings. Quick passes out 349 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: of it, wide open three for Malik Beasley. And then 350 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: the second time they just go full blitz brunts and 351 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: attacks Cad Bridges follows him. They both attack Caid. It 352 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: ends up being the same exact sequence. Swing over to 353 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior. Josh Hart rotates extra pass to Malik 354 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: Beasley in the corner. That's your ballgame, right, But again 355 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: that's an even simpler action that they can go to 356 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: in those situations and get great stuff because of Kaide's 357 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: ability to attack mismatches to pass out of everything. Again 358 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: sixth best offense in the league over this eleven game span. 359 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: And then the Pissons just had several guys give them 360 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: bonus offense. Marcus Sasser. He only had seven points in 361 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: four assists, but all of them were big and self created. 362 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: He was just giving straight work to Jalen Brunson one 363 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: on one. He did the same thing to Campaign on 364 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: a possession in the fourth quarter where he dropped it 365 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: off for a dunk. He was awesome. Ron Holland had 366 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: a big lefty right left to right crossover against og 367 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: Andnobi where he broke him off and got a big 368 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: floater there in the fourth quarter. Malik Beasley in the 369 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: I think it was in the second quarter or late 370 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: first quarter, I can't remember exactly what it was, but 371 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: he went on a crazy shooting run in the first 372 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: half where he really did a bunch of damage on 373 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: some self created stuff too, like flying off of screens 374 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: or they had a like a thirty five foot or 375 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: at the top of the key for his four to 376 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: three in this game. But like a lot of guys 377 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: just pitching in with extra offense and that's why they've 378 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: been so good offensively. And then just lots of defensive contributions. Specifically, 379 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: I thought the Biggs did a good job on switches 380 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: against Brunson most of the night. Brunson got Stewart a 381 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: couple times late with layups, but for the most part 382 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: he did a good job. Jalen durn did a good 383 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: job on Brunson on switches, really good on ball reps 384 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: all over the flora. Sar Thompson and Marcus Sasser both 385 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: did a good job on Brunson. They did some offense 386 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: defense subs late where they'd bring in Usar Thompson or 387 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: they'd bring in one of Beasley, Tim Hardaway Junior and 388 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth. I thought Isaiah Stewart 389 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: did a great job on Karl Anthony Towns, kind of 390 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: like flattening out some of his drives, staying attached to 391 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: him on his pop situations. He just did a much 392 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: better job than Jalen Duran, which is, by the way, 393 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 1: why Stewart played twenty eight minutes and Jalen durn only 394 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: played twenty minutes. And Jalen Durns is like a really 395 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: good drop coverage, paint protecting type of big, but he 396 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: can struggle tracking shooters and defending in those sorts of situations. 397 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: He lost Carl Anthony Towns on pops. Earlier in the game, 398 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: had a possession where he was terrified of the pops 399 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: or he just didn't help on the drive at all whatsoever, 400 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: which gave up a layup like that. It just is 401 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: not a great matchup for him when it comes to 402 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: shooting bigs. But for the most part, of a bunch 403 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: of good defensive contributions for a Pistons team that is 404 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 1: playing really good basketball right now. On the Knicks front, 405 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: offense wasn't the issue. They actually shot better than the 406 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: Pistons on jump shots in that game. They got fifty 407 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: one attempts for one point two zero points per jump shot. 408 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: The Pistons took forty nine jump shots and got one 409 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: point one zero, So the Knicks shot better. They actually 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: had a one to nineteen offensive rating in this game. 411 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: The problem was is they had a one twenty four 412 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: defensive right and they couldn't get any stops. And it's 413 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: the same I don't need to go any further into it, 414 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 1: because it's the same stuff they've been struggling with all season. 415 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns being really bad in ball screens. One possession, 416 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: he's too far back, Kate's hitting a pull up three. 417 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: The next possession, he's too far up. Kate just crosses 418 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: right past him, gets into the lane. For an easy 419 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: shot at the rim against Duce McBride and help right 420 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: like Kat's really bad all over the place, and pick 421 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: and roll Brunson like so many bad hedges in this game, 422 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: where sometimes he's hedging but he's not really hedging, meaning 423 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: like he's there, but he's not really disrupting the ball. 424 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: All he's doing is putting two on the ball without 425 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: actually pressuring anybody, or like some of his hedges, he 426 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: didn't even contain the ball. He had a hedge where 427 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: he just basically screened McHale bridges and Ky just went 428 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: right downhill and got it and created another wide open shot. 429 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: I think that was the one that led to the 430 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: USAR Thompson corner three that he claimed. But like that, 431 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: and then again, the most important part of the hedge 432 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: is you got to recover. There was a there's a 433 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: really good campaign hedge and recover rep in the second 434 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: quarter or yeah, no it his fourth court. It was 435 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: in the second half campaign had a really good hedge 436 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: and recover rep where he jumps out on Kid, pressures 437 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: the hell out of the ball, forces Kaid to pick 438 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: up his dribble and then sprints back to I think 439 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: it was uh I think it was someone Fontechio that 440 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: was slipping out of it, and in the process k 441 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: threw a bad pass because he saw Campaign in the 442 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: passing lane and it went out of bounce. Again, there's 443 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: you have to stop the drive, pressure the ball enough 444 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: to at least like make them take a retreat dribble 445 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: or to pick up their dribble, and then you need 446 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: to sprint like hell to get back to the shooter. 447 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: That's the bear minimum of what they're asking you to do, 448 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson, because again the idea there is we're not 449 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 1: letting you play defense on that guy if we can 450 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: afford it. We're not gonna put you on an island there. 451 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: We just need you to hedge and recover. And Brunson's 452 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: hedges and recovers have been really inconsistent all year. And 453 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: then the same stuff that's been messing with the Knicks 454 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: all year with their good defenders, where it's like one 455 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: of the first buckets of the game ognnob and Michale 456 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: Bridge is a simple action between Tobias Harrison k Cunningham 457 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: that should be a switch Nope, two on the ball, 458 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Tobias slips and gets another drop off for an easy 459 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: bucket or I think you've missed, and then an offensive 460 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: rebound put back by one of the bigs. What are 461 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: you doing your Ognoban mcal Bridges. You should be able 462 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: to switch any action that involves the two of you, 463 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: like there's just so much sloppiness. And then these two 464 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: big entry points in two guys in Kat and Jalen 465 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Brunson that just haven't been good enough this year on 466 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: the details in order to anchor a good defense. And again, 467 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: things aren't going to turn around for the Knicks until 468 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: those guys embrace that responsibility and everything that comes with 469 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: it at a championship level. All right, guys, that's all 470 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: I have for today. Is always as sincerely appreciate you 471 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: guys for supporting me and supporting the show. Again. We'll 472 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. We'll do some game reactions and I 473 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: want to do some trade deadline stuff as well. I 474 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: will see you guys then the volume. What's up guys? 475 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: As always, I appreciate you for listening to and supporting 476 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: OOPS tonight. It would actually be really helpful for us 477 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: if you guys would take a second and leave a 478 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: rating and a review. As always, I appreciate you guys 479 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: supporting us, but if you could take a minute to 480 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: do that, I'd really appreciate it.