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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bacheler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena, and we are here with our most

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Speaker 1: frequented guest, the best Bachelor of all time, Joey is

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Speaker 1: here and he brought his father along with him. Nick,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: This is so exciting because Joey is a Happy Hour regular.

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Speaker 3: He's been on this podcast maybe more than anyone else.

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Speaker 3: And Nick, you're the first parent that we've ever had,

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Speaker 3: and we've actually talked.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous, are you nervous?

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Speaker 3: We have in parent parents are the house, but we've

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Speaker 3: actually talked about how it would be so interesting to

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Speaker 3: have a parent on because you guys have such a

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Speaker 3: different experience than us as contestants. I mean, we know

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Speaker 3: our parents have a lot to say about the show

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Speaker 3: and the journeys. So we're really excited to talk to

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Speaker 3: you today.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited as well.

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Speaker 4: Nick.

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Speaker 1: Where where do you currently live?

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Speaker 2: I'm good in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And where where are you from?

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Speaker 5: I am from I'm born and raised at Central New

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Speaker 5: York and lived in Florida for thirty plus years. That's

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Speaker 5: where Joey was born and recently relocated to. I came

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Speaker 5: to Philadelphia, actually Phoenixville, where the one you know, my

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Speaker 5: daughter Carly lives, and since one I have you know,

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Speaker 5: Joey was in Tawai. Carly's in Philly, and my other

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Speaker 5: daughter's in Texas, and I was in Florida. So when

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Speaker 5: Carly was married, I figured I'd been. I figured she

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Speaker 5: wasn't going anywhere, so let me move close to at

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Speaker 5: least one of my kids.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I'm here.

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Speaker 3: There you go, and then hopefully the grandkids come.

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Speaker 5: Soun no rush for good though, well I can't. I

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Speaker 5: can't say that's so get mad at me. But I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I have a grand dog, she has a girl, little

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Speaker 2: Harper's or my grandkid.

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Speaker 3: Right now, there you go, a grandpuppy.

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Speaker 1: And what do you do for a living?

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Speaker 5: I worked for actually where for company where helping seniors

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Speaker 5: kind of and their caregivers find the best solution for

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Speaker 5: their families and placement for them.

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Speaker 2: So I worked for a company doing that right.

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Speaker 3: Now, nice, How did you get into that?

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Speaker 2: Actually?

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Speaker 5: I wanted I found you know, I came from it

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Speaker 5: was I was working when I moved from Florida. I

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Speaker 5: was working actually with some doctors, and then this opportunity

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Speaker 5: because instead of helping the hospitals and the doctors, I

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Speaker 5: was able to help the families more. And and I

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Speaker 5: do have a mother who was in assisted living as well,

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Speaker 5: so it kind of definitely held the place near and there.

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Speaker 2: To my heart.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so now let's talk about let's talk about Joey

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Speaker 1: boy over here. You know, this is weird because none

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Speaker 1: of these questions really are directed to you, Joey.

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Speaker 4: You're just there.

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Speaker 2: Be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, Nick, what was your initial reaction when Joey

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Speaker 1: came to you and told you that he was going

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Speaker 1: on the Bachelorette?

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Speaker 2: What are you crazy?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Kidding?

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Speaker 5: It was good actually, you know, knowing my son and

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Speaker 5: I want it was kind of happened when I was

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Speaker 5: in Hawaii with him, which was pretty ironic. I was

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Speaker 5: visiting him in January when they started and just kind

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Speaker 5: of that's when things started, and he figured he was

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Speaker 5: given a shot, nothing to lose, and I thought it

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was a cool opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I thought it'd be great for him

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Speaker 5: because I know it's hard where he lived in Hawaii

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Speaker 6: I actually totally forgot about that he was there for

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Speaker 6: that phone call, so I obviously the DM was what

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Speaker 4: I got d M back in like I think it

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Speaker 6: But when he was there was when I first got

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Speaker 4: He was with me on the beach in Hawaii and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Had you ever watched the show or

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Speaker 3: what was your knowledge of the show when do I

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Speaker 5: Watched you know, beginning probably the first season, maybe you know,

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Speaker 5: many many moons ago as the old man here, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: did you know it was interesting?

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Speaker 2: You know a little bit not getting I.

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Speaker 5: Will say no the question follows, but not until I

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Speaker 5: you know, just kind of look at is a reality

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Speaker 5: I was pretty amazed, actually, and actually was very impressed

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Speaker 1: Joey when you two had that conversation, when you got

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Speaker 1: that call, what did you think the odds were that

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Speaker 6: I thought it was definitely unique that someone reached out

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Speaker 6: He was probably the easiest person to talk to about it.

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Speaker 6: That didn't make it seem like it was so far

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Speaker 6: fetched to do something like this. He's always been like

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Speaker 6: my big issues, like support with all these types of things,

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Speaker 6: and it was it was nice to have him there

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Speaker 6: when I was trying to wrap my head around that

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Speaker 3: What was your hope for Joey when he then got

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Speaker 5: And honestly, I wanted him to first, like about a

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Speaker 5: you know, meet some new people. Meet obviously to meet

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Speaker 5: So really just it was more just you know, excited

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Speaker 1: Did you have any concerns or worries about what could

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Speaker 5: But honestly, because Joey and I have had we do

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Speaker 5: he is where he really does you know, he's always

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Speaker 5: So I kind of was, you know, not concerned about

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Speaker 1: Got it okay. So he ends up getting his heart broken,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second part not's so great, but first part

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Speaker 5: It was exciting, you know, it was kind of great

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Speaker 5: very cool, like let's find out what this is all about.

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Speaker 5: So that worked, you know, obviously, no one I think

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Speaker 5: was actually amazing just to see how everything developed too

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Speaker 1: No, I know how that feels like that forst Like,

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Speaker 6: So it's tough too, because like I still remember that

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Speaker 4: Family into this experience and they didn't sign up for that.

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Speaker 6: I did, so that whole Like, I remember the first

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Speaker 6: Because you feel for them that they didn't sign up

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Speaker 3: It is such a trip because you're isolated filming this show.

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Speaker 3: You can't talk to each other, and then all of

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Speaker 3: we all gotten ourselves into here? Joey, how did you

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Speaker 3: think your dad would be? Because like, obviously you knew

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Speaker 4: He was exactly what I expected.

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Speaker 6: He's kind of as a lot of people say that,

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Speaker 6: He just kind of gets me in a lot of

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Speaker 6: going to do great. And I think I I knew

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Speaker 6: there was going to be tough conversations going into that

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Speaker 6: I could. And he was probably the only person I

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Speaker 6: So I knew he was just going to be supportive

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Speaker 3: This was a crazy time, and then Nick on the flip,

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Speaker 3: how did you think Joey was going to be and

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Speaker 3: was he what you expected?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, honestly, he came in like just big smiles, honestly,

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Speaker 5: So that was really that was very positive, so very

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Speaker 5: How they looked at each other, how they communicated to us,

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Speaker 5: I mean we all had that reaction or we're like, wait,

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 6: It was a really great time to be able to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's all you can really do

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Speaker 4: You can't change it. That was the timing, and it was.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, that's like perfect, Like if if I'm

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Speaker 4: Feel like drinking. No, it was perfect. It was. It

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Speaker 2: And Joey he did that first family, he really did too.

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Speaker 5: And that's where I flauded for that because we're he's

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Speaker 2: Two red eyes.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what do you I was just like he

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Speaker 6: So there's a picture of me and Carly at that wedding,

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Speaker 6: and I'm not kidding. I think it looks like I'm

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Speaker 3: I can't even imagine. I remember when I got home,

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Speaker 3: like riddled with anxiety. I was just like, you need

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Speaker 3: It's fine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it was. It was definitely a different atmosphere,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nice. When I I went nick I I got sent

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Speaker 1: and that day was Saint Patrick's day in Chicago, and

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Speaker 1: like the lines back there. I'm like, I was just

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Speaker 3: Immediately gets home and he's using it day one.

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Speaker 1: How could I take advantage of this?

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Speaker 3: Well, you got to home nay one, So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had every right to thank you, thank you. But okay,

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Speaker 3: then what was that conversation like between the two of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was talked about pretty

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Speaker 6: I don't exactly know when, but my dad was definitely

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Speaker 6: you and Carly were the first people that I really

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Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, definitely think that too.

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Speaker 5: And seeing what he went through, obviously knowing that he

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Speaker 5: was like, this is you know, you get to be

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Speaker 2: I mean this is kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I looked at it like this is good.

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Speaker 5: I mean this is something where what I had not

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Speaker 2: This is something you've got to do for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Would either were there any signs you are looking for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know part of the smart guy that went

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Speaker 5: went to WHI went back to why It's like do

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Speaker 5: again what I praised him for it He's just so

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Speaker 5: like just seeing that and knowing that what he experienced

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Speaker 5: we talked about that, you know, and do you think

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Speaker 5: having that, having him really express that and understand it

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Speaker 5: just about how I know him made it easy first

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Speaker 3: Were those some of the same reasons that it was

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Speaker 3: Would you say it's because he's kind of like so

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, it really is. And because he expresses it,

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Speaker 5: you know, And that's the part that's so great. You

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Speaker 5: it even and they did this through casting, you know,

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Speaker 5: doesn't know how to hide his emotions, his space, his

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Speaker 5: face based there is no point. Don't play poker. Well

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Speaker 4: I guess exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's the way.

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Speaker 3: It's an easy target.

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Speaker 4: D I think he knew.

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Speaker 6: He knew when I got back it was going to

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Speaker 6: take a little bit of time, But I was calling

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Speaker 6: him every week, and I think it's just through time

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Speaker 6: he saw it. There was Hawaii was helping, Time was helping, understanding,

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Speaker 1: Nick, what were your secrets because Joey, I think was

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Speaker 1: said to be maybe the most emotionally mature bachelor we've

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Speaker 1: ever had, and as a parent, like you had to

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Speaker 1: have some influence on that, Like what what'd you do?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't even think I'm I'm even there yet.

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Speaker 3: It's a.

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Speaker 2: Right I know, right, trust me, I think he's beyond

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Speaker 5: Quite frankly, you know, honestly, it's more like it's coming

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you do, but it's like being

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Speaker 5: that really, you know, traumatizes somebody, or it's something that

445
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 5: ends up being something that really learned from. And quite honestly,

446
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 5: Joey's been in a world where he is, you know,

447
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 5: been with it. We've been connected from obviously since he's

448
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 5: been born divorced at young.

449
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,199
Speaker 2: I mean I was divorcing.

450
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 5: He was only gosh, he was like almost five, not

451
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,440
Speaker 5: even five yet, you know, So I was not living

452
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 5: in the home, but I was always there. And then

453
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 5: he moved he moved to another area, like three years

454
00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,480
Speaker 5: later he moved up to Pennsylvania. That's when they ended

455
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 5: up here. So we always kept in touch, but that part,

456
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,200
Speaker 5: and I've learned this to him. I speaking with my

457
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 5: kids because I do this to this day. I always

458
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 5: ask them like I feel There's times I feel so bad,

459
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 5: like did I mess things up? I feel so bad

460
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 5: that I put you through that. But honestly, the takeaway

461
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 5: that I've gotten from them is my kids are who

462
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 5: they are today, not in spite of the position we've

463
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 5: put them in. But it's because of that and having

464
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 5: two different parents to bounce ideas off. And Joey's been

465
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 5: lucky to have almost three because you know, Big Joe

466
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 5: johe Andy, his uncle is almost like that other guy

467
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 5: who's there, and Joey's counsels. He always it's funny because

468
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 5: he's really grown into that person because of Joe too,

469
00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 5: and being exposed to so much. And that's really what

470
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 5: it is. It's everything he's been exposed to. Really that's

471
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 5: made of who he is. It's not just one parent.

472
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 5: It's not you know, it's almost like three separate homes.

473
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 4: It's a lot.

474
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, can I ask you how difficult. Was it

475
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: for you to come out having three children and being married?

476
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 1: Can you touch on that at all? Do you feel comfortable?

477
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine, absolutely, no, not a pro at all.

478
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was difficult, absolutely, and it was you know,

479
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,439
Speaker 5: on top of that, and this is what I've struggled with.

480
00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 5: But I think on top of that to his mother

481
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 5: knew that's when my ex wife was recently diagnosed.

482
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: With MSS, so that was a lot too.

483
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 5: So on top of that, making that decision and then

484
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 5: her getting sick was hard too, because I'm like, what

485
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 5: am I doing here?

486
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: This is not fair.

487
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I didn't want my kids

488
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,160
Speaker 5: to live in a home where the parents the parents

489
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 5: weren't I mean, I love my ex wife, I love

490
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 5: Kathy still to this day, but it's just like that

491
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 5: happiness wasn't going to be there and it was unfair

492
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 5: to them, and I wanted them to grow up in

493
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,239
Speaker 5: a home that they were happy. So but it's still hard,

494
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 5: you know, it was hard. Definitely was. It wasn't easy,

495
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 5: but it was you know, to me, it was like

496
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 5: the goal was for them. I really didn't want them

497
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 5: to live in that. I didn't want them to live

498
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 5: in an environment where people weren't really truthful and telling,

499
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 5: you know, living that Yeah.

500
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that conversation? I mean, I know Joey

501
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 3: was so young. Joey, you're the middle child, right, yeah,

502
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: middle child. So what were those conversations like with your

503
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,199
Speaker 3: kids when the divorce happened and then maybe when they

504
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: were old enough to know a little bit more details

505
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: about what.

506
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: Happened, conversations where they were Kathy was great about all this,

507
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: honestly with them. She was great too. She was you know,

508
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 5: through this whole thing, you know, and she's had she

509
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 5: It was more because being the mother, I think when

510
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: your kids are young, it's a lot usier for the

511
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 5: mother to talk a little bit Carly. And we talked

512
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 5: to Carly, both of us did talk to part at

513
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 5: the same time. She was also she was older, she

514
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 5: was seven seven eight years old, so that was different.

515
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 5: Just kind of just said Dad's not going to be here.

516
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 5: That type of conversation, you know, Joey didn't you know

517
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 5: more that Joey being younger kind of did.

518
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 2: There wasn't much there just later on.

519
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 5: And I will, you know, and that's where that conversation

520
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 5: my daughter Cary this way the kids are my daughter

521
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 5: Kathy has been. She's my Joey's mom just was before

522
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 5: getting able to extremely a well, very good business woman,

523
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 5: very very bright, you know, awesome at her job and

524
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 5: everything and just really gave the kids great things and

525
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 5: how to, you know, how to look at things differently.

526
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 2: So we've learned a lot there.

527
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 5: But as far as the conversation with them, honestly, it

528
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 5: was more it's pretty like in the begin and then Joey,

529
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 5: I think, joybody, I think you were ten when you

530
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 5: kind of figured it out.

531
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,439
Speaker 4: So I don't even know. I don't know when I

532
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: actually fully figured out. I still try to think back

533
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: how old I was, But yeah, I would say I

534
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: don't remember that conversation either. I know we were really young.

535
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 6: I think it was more Mom that told us that

536
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 6: we're going to see more on the weekends.

537
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: And then the move happened.

538
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 6: I knew they weren't together anymore, but I didn't necessarily

539
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 6: understand why, And those conversations probably came later on in life,

540
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 6: and when I did fully understand it, I think a

541
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 6: lot more started to come together. As I always said,

542
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 6: I think it made me more of an understanding person

543
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 6: and to touch on what my dad was talking about too,

544
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 6: about how he obviously you can tell, doesn't give himself

545
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 6: any credit for any emotional intelligence that I have. My

546
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 6: whole family, especially on my dad's side, is extremely loving,

547
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 6: extremely open. The one thing that they taught us really

548
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,439
Speaker 6: really early on, especially through something difficult as divorce, is

549
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 6: you never stop loving on your family like they have

550
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 6: always been open and loving. If you've met my ants

551
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 6: and all these other people on that side, like the

552
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 6: affection they show is it's it's it's almost too much sometimes.

553
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 4: So it's just it's how they are.

554
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 6: And I think that was very obviously at a young

555
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 6: age that was really okay to express emotions. I think

556
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 6: that's what my dad's taught me the most throughout our lives.

557
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: Wow, I've been I've been really keeping my emotions for

558
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: a lot. I really do. I gotta. I gotta get

559
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: invited to one of these webs That's great, Okay, so

560
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: let's let's pivot back to now, let's go to Joey's

561
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: hometowns as the Bachelor and Nick. Now, let's just talk

562
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: about you meeting Daisy and Kelsey. What do you what

563
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: are your initial thoughts on both of those women?

564
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: Both you know, both amazing women.

565
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 5: You know, my when I met both of them in

566
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: the takeway that day was like, no matter what, either

567
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 5: women amazing.

568
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: So that was like happy about Joey's your decision.

569
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 5: You know, that was very very easy to say that

570
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 5: to my son and let him know this is in

571
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: you and whatever you decide is a great decision.

572
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: Honestly, that must have been a relief that.

573
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 5: Oh yes, yes, that was definitely. That was definitely a

574
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 5: relief for me. They're both in their own ways, they're both,

575
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 5: you know, incredible women. Honestly, I will say one thing,

576
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 5: so this is my takeaway and this is something I

577
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 5: did share and it kind of ties to Charity season

578
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: where Daisy was with joe one day when you first

579
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 5: met Daisy sat with Joey. We talked again, impressed as

580
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 5: a family were sitting there in the body language was

581
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: just okay, and had the conversation with her and then

582
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 5: I kind of was I was let down a little

583
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 5: bit because I was like, Okay, not what I saw

584
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: with Cheery because when they sat down they were like

585
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 5: I saw it. I was like, these people really care

586
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: for each other. Well, then in comes Kelsey. She lights

587
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 5: up the room. Sits down with Joey and they were

588
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 5: like two kids on the couch, sitting there.

589
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: Like on top.

590
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, finally, I'm like, thank god, I saw this.

591
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 5: That's really what my response was, I really was. It

592
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 5: was just like it was like, oh, thank goodness. So

593
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 5: you know that in hindsight, that's what I looked at

594
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: and realized that. So when his decision was Kelsey, then

595
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 5: you know, obviously she's amazing. So it was exciting and

596
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: it was happy for him.

597
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to be saying and being like

598
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: can we bring back charity?

599
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Not right?

600
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 5: Honestly, it was like so you know, just seeing it,

601
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 5: you're just like wow, because I was like, I realized

602
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 5: this does work.

603
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: And then you saw that change, and I was like,

604
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm concerned.

605
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: With leaving that day where if you were going to

606
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: put a bet on it, were you pretty sure it

607
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 3: was going to be Kelsey? Just based on those interactions.

608
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think in my mind, yes,

609
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 5: I'm waiting. The weight was more towards However, we part

610
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 5: of us is like making sure Joey's making a thoughtful decision, right,

611
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: So we're all we're both all of us myself currently,

612
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 5: I think talking to I said listen, just I know,

613
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 5: because we learned later on that Daisy was kind of

614
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: expression she didn't at that time. She didn't express enough

615
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: to Joey. So we're like, well, make sure he knows

616
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 5: how you feel, because I don't think he does and

617
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 5: we can't. We were supporting that at the end. So

618
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 5: when I left him thinking like, well, I hope I

619
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 5: didn't make him change his mind, and I was like,

620
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 5: I think it will be Kelsey.

621
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: But did we make him rethink this? So that was

622
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: what I was a little concerned with.

623
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: And then this would have been probably your third time

624
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: in front of the cameras, because I know they filmed

625
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 3: like the packages for the bachel and everything like that.

626
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Did you feel more comfortable this third and final time

627
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: doing the hometowns? Like, Okay, I've kind of warmed up

628
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: to this, I know what to expect.

629
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess more comfortable. It was so hot though.

630
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 2: That was the hardest part of it.

631
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 5: But it was so hot, so and I really was

632
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: not excited about how I looked on CD. I looked

633
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: at this front the old man, So I wasn't very

634
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: happy with hot film. But it's all right, So I

635
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 5: let that one go. I was like, oh, Joe, I

636
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: look so bad. But again, it wasn't about me, it

637
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 5: was about you. It was all right, So Joe, Joey

638
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 5: definitely more comfortable. It's almost like you don't by that time,

639
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 5: you don't even see the cameras. Definitely, you're right, Yeah,

640
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 5: you get used to it.

641
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Joey.

642
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Did you did you have any like subtle little hints

643
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: that you would let your family and know, like I'm

644
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: choosing Kelsey.

645
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 6: I think the one thing I was told by both

646
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 6: my dad and my sisters, especially my mom even caught

647
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 6: up on it too, I think.

648
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: Was I would describe Kelsey in a different way.

649
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 6: And I think, if I'm being pletely honest, at that time,

650
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 6: I didn't even know how much I was doing it.

651
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 6: I knew I was leaning more towards Kelsey because I

652
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: thought we were in a different spot at that time.

653
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 6: But like I was, as much as everyone was telling me,

654
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 6: trying to stay open, trying to wait and see this

655
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 6: full process through. But I just I know, as people

656
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 6: have seen, I'm not very good at hiding my emotions

657
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 6: from time to time. So if I was feeling a

658
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: certain type of way, I think my sisters when they

659
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 6: had a break upstairs, both looked at each other and

660
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 6: said Kelsey at the same time, like because they felt

661
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 6: it from after how I talked about each of them,

662
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: So I think there was little subtle hints.

663
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: But I will say I can tell us for all.

664
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 6: My family, especially my dad, each of those women said

665
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 6: that when they left that day they felt supported by

666
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: my family, And I know that can be very rare

667
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 6: in that setting because they're kind of, you know, trying

668
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: to get to the bottom of this woman really here

669
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 6: for him? Are they someone that I can actually be

670
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: a good person for my son? Both my parents, my

671
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 6: dad especially, and my sisters and my mom, they were

672
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: just all so loving to the girls, and I think

673
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 6: that's I don't know. I was very proud to hear

674
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 6: those conversations later on and know that they just like

675
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: they were who they were, and I was really proud

676
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 6: to hear that.

677
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, love those girls. Yeah they were both. They were

678
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: both great. What were you hoping for or expecting from

679
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 3: the conversation with your dad at that final like meet

680
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: the family pocket and then what were you hoping from

681
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: his conversations with the women?

682
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 6: I was hoping again because it's no different. On the

683
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 6: lead side. I needed my support. I haven't been able

684
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 6: to talk to my dad for two months at that time.

685
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: I wanted that support. I want him to feel and

686
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 6: give me that reassurance that I'm doing the right thing.

687
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: So that's what I was looking for more than anything else.

688
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 6: Was just the person that's always been there for me

689
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 6: and for the women. I was looking for him to

690
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: get a feel on if there was something that I

691
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 6: was missing. I don't think that's a wrong thing for

692
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 6: anyone to want during this time, is to feel if

693
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 6: your family members see or hears something that you're not catching.

694
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 6: As we both said, both the women were amazing, So

695
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 6: there wasn't really anything I was expecting me here, but

696
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 6: that was what I was looking for.

697
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: From the conversation, Nick, for future hometown parents, what advice

698
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: would you give them.

699
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 5: I would say, you know, trust your child, I mean

700
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: trust your child and their decision and let him know

701
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: that it is their decision. And I would say, really

702
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 5: understand that this process example here, it does work.

703
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: But I think you've heard that.

704
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: You know, people say a lot of time, but I

705
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: think they need to understand that they're engrossed. You know,

706
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 5: you know, engrossed in this twenty per seven, they have

707
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 5: no this is what they live for. They basically you

708
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 5: convinced like almost a year's worth of relationship until like

709
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 5: that short two to three months where verse seven they're

710
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 5: with that person, So they really have had an opportunity

711
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 5: to really get to know them. And you know, and

712
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: I think just you know, from parents' point of view,

713
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 5: you know you know your child. Hopefully you do. I mean,

714
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: you know you're to well enough to know if it's

715
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: true or not. And I think the example too with

716
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: even Kelsey and her dad. I mean, she told her

717
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: dad like she loved Joey before she told Joey. It's like,

718
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 5: you know, it's just like that's because he has a

719
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 5: good relationship with his daughter, and it's like if that

720
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 5: relationship's there, I mean, you know your kid.

721
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: You know, you know your child.

722
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 5: So definitely support them the best you can make them

723
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: know that the decision is there. Definitely that that's the

724
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: biggest part.

725
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: I like that.

726
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the best advice you can.

727
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great advice. Joey. I know that you did

728
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: open up and talk about your parents' divorce and the

729
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: reasons behind it on Charity Season. I think a lot

730
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: of people wondered why that wasn't a part of your

731
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: story as the Bachelor. What would you say to answer

732
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: those questions like was it talked about, was it something

733
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: you were engaging with the women about, did you pull

734
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: back for privacy? What would Yeah, I don't know why,

735
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm giving you a list of options.

736
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I do that.

737
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: No, I do know for a fact that was talked about,

738
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 6: especially to the women that went farther through the process

739
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: you touch more on family and your relationship. I would

740
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: say that what I think a lot of leads deal

741
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: with that. It's kind of almost a fault that sometimes

742
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 6: I kind of expected everyone already knew, right because you

743
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 6: think everyone watched Charity Season, So I was like, Oh,

744
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 6: everyone already.

745
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: Knows about my family dynamic and I can build off it.

746
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: But I don't have to get that same, you know,

747
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 6: story all over again, because that was something I really

748
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 6: thought through and wanted to make sure it was done

749
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 6: correctly when I had that time on Charity Season, and

750
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 6: you know, looking back on it, I do wish it

751
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: was maybe something that was a part of the hometown

752
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: package that we touched on more because it is something

753
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 6: that describes and explains who I am, and it's also

754
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: a beautiful story that I think that shows how loving

755
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 6: our family is that how we navigated something like that.

756
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: But I really think at a fault, I just expected

757
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: everyone knew and didn't realize that there's a whole different

758
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 6: audience that only tuned into our season that didn't even

759
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 6: watch Charity.

760
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 4: So there's probably a lot everyone knew.

761
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 6: But it's crazy because there will be people that are

762
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 6: probably tuning into this and for some reason, never knew

763
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 6: until today that my dad's gay. And that's something that

764
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 6: I will never hide, never be ashamed of, want the

765
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 6: world to know because it makes him more of a

766
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: special person, doesn't change anything about him. I just think

767
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 6: it was a fault of thinking that everyone knew because

768
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 6: they tuned into Charity season.

769
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: In my mind, yeah, that's totally fair, and I think

770
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: that it's a compliment that the people that did watch

771
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: you on Charity Season wanted to hear more about who

772
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: you are and your story and why you're the way

773
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: they are. Nick, you obviously didn't go on the show

774
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: as a contestant. How did it feel though, knowing that

775
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: such a big part of your life was gonna be

776
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: shared through your son.

777
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: I mean it was fun, honestly, and knowing again how

778
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: he how he talks about things and how he handles things,

779
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I was fine and it was yeah, because

780
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: he was concerned that and I what, I do appreciate

781
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 2: the fact that the franchise too is great about really

782
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: saying I hope that I just you know, your father's

783
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: okay with this and in really caring about that, that's awesome,

784
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: you know, and to me, And honestly, it's like that

785
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 2: to me.

786
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: I know to some people it's a big thing, but

787
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: it's like BEINGKA doesn't define who I am as a person.

788
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, it's fine. It's just that's that's the

789
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: preference to.

790
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 5: Whatever, such a preference however you want to look at it,

791
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 5: but it's not I'm who I am.

792
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: It's like I'm this person. It doesn't matter.

793
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 5: And people and I think the good takeer was that

794
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 5: a lot of good came out of that and people

795
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 5: appreciating that. So that's the plus to support, you know,

796
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 5: to support the gay people out there. But again to me,

797
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 5: it's I wasn't concerned at all. It's like, this is

798
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 5: my boy. I know he would never talk ill of me,

799
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: and I knew that he didn't have an issue with it,

800
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 5: so it's.

801
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Easy nice love that. Well, I think, uh yeah, I

802
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: mean overall, great story. I mean you guys, Joey, I

803
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: thought you handled yourself wonderful on the show, but I

804
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: also think you're kind of a dick.

805
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: So you know, yeah, you'll say it. My dad's like

806
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 4: all we got stories for that.

807
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: Let's ring.

808
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 3: I love to have you guys back.

809
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: But overall, Nick, overall watching your son navigate this whole

810
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: process and go through everything, what would you say you're

811
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: most proud of him for?

812
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: I'm just I would say, and I kind of do.

813
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: We talked a lot too.

814
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 5: It was like every time I saw anything about him,

815
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 5: I'm like I would be every time I saw him,

816
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: I was like more proud of every day. It's like

817
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 5: just and it's so crazy to say that, yes, he's

818
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 5: my son, but it's just like I'm just like I

819
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 5: was impressed, like who is this kid?

820
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm like this guy.

821
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 5: It's like I was just impressed with how we really

822
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: handled himself, how we navigate things, how he you know,

823
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 5: how he made the women know that he was in

824
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 5: it for the right reason. How he how he let

825
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 5: what a very part about, how he made every woman

826
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: understand like all their feelings were, he understood them, he

827
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: let them express that he was there. And of course

828
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 5: we can't forget the seer white. You know, that's what

829
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: Joey thinks. So that was the best part.

830
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: There's Joey. So it's like, but you know, honestly, the

831
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: way he navigated.

832
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 5: That, his interaction with the other women, I would say,

833
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: is what I'm most proud of, because he knew what

834
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 5: it was like and he didn't want anybody to Obviously

835
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 5: they're gonna get hurt.

836
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: But his caring, his care for.

837
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 5: The women on the show and in their emotions and

838
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: you know, and leaving them was you know, is I guess.

839
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: Would be what I'm most proud of.

840
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: So I've always and I've I've talked to my own

841
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: parents about this, but I'm curious. You know, you see

842
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: your son as your child, your side, You see him

843
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: in certain aspects of his life on a regular basis.

844
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: Was it unusual to watch and see him in potentially

845
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: a new light as this adult man watching his like

846
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: intimate romantic relationships unfold. I mean, like I've said to

847
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: my parents, like you would never have seen the moments

848
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: between me and my now husband that you did had

849
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 3: we not met on TV, and you would never really

850
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 3: know that, Like that's how I acted within the confines

851
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: of a relationship. Was that ever surprising or uncomfortable for you?

852
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 5: I think because I'm a guy and it's my son,

853
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: then no. I mean if it was if it was

854
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: my daughter, yeah, different story, absolutely. I mean that's honestly,

855
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 5: I think that was a big difference. But him very

856
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 5: you know, he was he was Joey.

857
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: It was good.

858
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: It was actually happy for him, honestly, So it didn't

859
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 5: be absolutely if it was like your parents looking at you,

860
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 5: I'd be like, totally different story. Like I don't know

861
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: if I can handle this to watch this, you know,

862
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: it's like, please trust me. You charity different from then

863
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 5: I did Joey Weiser and Joey, and like it seemed

864
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 5: different for her than.

865
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Joey, So I get it.

866
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, Joey. Nick. Thank you guys so much.

867
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: We really appreciate you coming on. Nick. You are our

868
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: first parent we've had on this podcast. Well actually probably

869
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: not first parent, but like first parent of a bachelor.

870
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 3: First.

871
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, so much. It was great and to

872
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: all our listeners, thank you guys. Make sure you stay

873
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: tuned in. We have exclusive interviews coming every week and

874
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: we love you guys.

875
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 3: Yep, don't forget to subscribe and thanks for listening. Bye

876
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: bye