1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. Karen. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: The lift in futures comes as signs of tariff optimism 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: kick in two start the week. Sources say the next 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: round of President Donald Trump's tariffs is poised to be 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: more measured than previously suggest it. We get more from 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Markets reporter Valerie Titel. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: The thing that the market is picking up on is 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: in the headlines both from Bloomberg and in the Wall 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: Street Journal. They use this word targeted and narrow, and 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: I think that's the positivity the market is reacting too. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: But honestly, you read the gut of both of those 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: articles and it still sounds quite hawkish when it comes 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: to what Trump can announce on April second. Yes, they 16 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: say that it might be targeted to fifteen nations, but 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: those top fifteen nations with the big trade deficits with 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: the US make up most of the US's trade imbalances 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: and most of the US's foreign trade. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: It's Bloomberg's Valarie Titel official say President Trump will announce 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: widespread reciprocal tariffs on nations or blocks, but is set 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: to exclude some, and as of now, the administration is 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: not planning separate sector specific tariffs to be unveiled at 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,639 Speaker 1: the same event, as Trump had once teased Well Nathan. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer is sounding a warning as 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: President Trump continues to clash with federal judges on a 27 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 2: number of fronts. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 4: If Donald Trump should defy the courts public, the public 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: will rise up. We will Democrats will fight it in 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: every single way. 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: Senator Schumer appeared on NBC's Meet the Press as the 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Trump administration continues to clash with a federal judge who 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: ordered a deportation flight with alleged Venezuela and gang members 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 2: to turn around. White House Borders Are. Tom Homan says 35 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: that case is still playing out in court. 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 5: Cases and litigation through the Alien Enemies Act, and we'll 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: abide by the court order as litigated. But Mike quote was, 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: despite what he thinks, We're gonna keep targeting the worst 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: of the worst, which we've been doing since day one 40 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 5: in reporting from the United States to the various laws on. 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: The books and White House Borders Are. Tom Homan was 42 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: a guest on EBC's this week, you can hear Meet 43 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 2: the Press and this week every Sunday on Bloomberg Radio. 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 6: And on this. 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Monday morning, Karen US and Russian officials have begun talks 46 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, a day after a meeting between US 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: and Ukrainian teams. White House National Security Advisor Mike Waltz says, 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: all sides are getting down to the nitty gritty toward 49 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: a ceasefire. 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 7: This started with President Trump talking to both leaders back 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 7: to back. We then Secretary of State Rubio and I 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 7: engage the Russians, engaged the Ukrainians at our level, and 53 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 7: now we have technical teams actually with Ukrainians and Russians 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 7: in the same facility conducting proximity talks. 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor Mike Waltz told CBS's Face the Nation 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: the talks will focus on a potential ceasefire in the 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: black seat on the way to a broader and permanent piece. 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: You can hear Face the Nation every Sunday on Bloomberg Radio. 59 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: Well Nathan to the latest on geopolitical tensions with China. 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Montana Republican Senator Steve Danes says China must halt the 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: flow of fentanyl ingredients into the US before any trade negotiations. 62 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 8: It'll be difficult to have any conversation about tariffs and 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 8: non tariff barriers until the FEMO precursor. 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: Issue is resolved. Republican Montana Senator Steve Danes, who met 65 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: with Chinese officials over the weekend, made the comments in 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: an interview with Bloomberg on Sunday. 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: In Canada, Karen Prime Minister Mark Carney has called foreign 68 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: election on April twenty eighth. Polls show a close contest 69 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: between Carney's Liberal party and the Conservatives, as Canada faces 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: a trade war and taunts about its sovereignty from President Trump. 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 9: President Trump claims the Canada isn't a real country. He 72 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 9: wants to break us, so America can own us. We 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 9: will not let that happen. We're over the shock of 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 9: the betrayal, but we should never forget the lessons. 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: It's been only ten days since Mark Karney became Canada's 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: Prime minister. The sixty year old took over the governing 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: Liberals after winning the race to succeed Justin Trudeau. 78 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: Well Nathan Turkey has jailed President Erdowan's main political rival 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: on corruption charges. Ekronmmo glu, Istanbul's mayor, was detained by 80 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: police last Wednesday, but only formally arrested yesterday. He's the 81 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: most prominent person to be apprehended in a recent wave 82 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: of detentions and investigations against opposition figures, which have prompted 83 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: mass protests in major cities. If A Mooglu's detention has 84 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: caused turmoil on Turkey's financial markets, sparking selloffs in the 85 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: Lira and equities. 86 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: Turning back to markets Karen the jackmawbacked Ant Group is 87 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: touting an AI breakthrough with Chinese chips. Bloomberg News has 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: learned the company use Chinese made semiconductors to develop techniques 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: for training AI models that would cut costs by twenty percent. 90 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: The models mark Ant's entry into a race between Chinese 91 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: and US companies that has accelerated since Deep Seek demonstrated 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: how capable models can be trained for far less than 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: the billions invested by OpenAI and Alphabet's Google. 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: Well, in the US, Nathan DNA testing company twenty three 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: and Me has found for bankruptcy. The Chapter eleven plan 96 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: is the latest and the saga of the company that 97 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: was valued at three and a half billion dollars when 98 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: it won public in twenty twenty one. Co founder an 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: Wijitski is also stepping down. Her efforts to take the 100 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 2: struggling company private were rejected by a committee earlier this month. 101 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I have some deal news this morning. Karen's shares of 102 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: AZEC Companies are up about sixteen percent in early trading. 103 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: The Chicago based home decking company agreed to be bought 104 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: by Ireland's James Hardy for eight and three quarter billion dollars. 105 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: And a programming note Nathan. Atlanta FED president Raphael Bostik 106 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: speaks exclusively with Bloomberg's Michael McKee about his FED outlook, 107 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: including future interest rate moves, inflation concerns, and the economic 108 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: impact of tariffs. That's at one forty five pm Wall 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: Street Time on Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg Television, and the Bloomberg 110 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Podcast page on YouTube. Time now for a look at 111 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: some of the other stories making news in New York 112 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: and around the world. And for that we're joined by 113 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 114 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 6: Michael, Good Morning, Good morning. Karen. Israel killed two members 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 6: of hamasa's de facto cabinet in the Gaza Strip on Sunday. 116 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 6: It brings to eleven the death toll within the twenty 117 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: person forum during a renewed Israeli offensive aim at destroying 118 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 6: the Palestinian faction as a military and governing force. According 119 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 6: to the Israel Defense Forces, they were hit in South 120 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 6: Gasa by air strikes which resumed last week after a 121 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 6: truce expired. Bloomberg's Dan Williams has more Jerusalem. 122 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 10: What's happening in Gaza is The Israelis appear to be focusing, 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 10: among other things, on the civilian government of Hamas. Keep 124 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 10: in mind that Israel's objectivists to destroy Hamas completely and 125 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 10: to prevent it using a cease fire or a lull 126 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 10: in fighting to rebuild its capabilities. 127 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: Bloomberg's Dan Williams in Jerusalem. Former US Representative Mea Love 128 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 6: of Utah, a daughter of Haitian immigrants who became the 129 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 6: first Black Republican woman elected to Congress, has died. Love 130 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 6: had been undergoing treatment for brain cancer prior to her death. 131 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 6: Mea Love was forty nine. Senator Bernie Sanders says the 132 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 6: aim of his Fighting Oligarchy tour is to oppose an 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 6: authoritarian society undermining the Constitution. Sanders speaking to ABC, pointed 134 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 6: a finger at Democrats, led in the Senate by Minority 135 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 6: leader Chuck Schumer for allowing passage of the GOP spending bill. 136 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 11: Not just Chuck Truma, it's not Chuck Schumer, it is 137 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 11: you got a Democratic haughty in general that is dominated 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 11: by billionaires. Justice and Republican Party is that operates under 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 11: the leadership of a bunch of inside the Beltway consultants, 140 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 11: very well paid for are way out of touch. 141 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Senator Schumer says he won't resign his post despite 142 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 6: pressure from some in his party. Thousands of postal workers 143 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: stage rallies across the country yesterday. They are protesting proposed 144 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 6: Trump administration job cuts and a merger with the US 145 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 6: Postal Service with the Commerce Department. Mayor Brandon Johnson spoke 146 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 6: at the Chicago rally from. 147 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 12: Sea to Shining Sea, we are going to make sure 148 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 12: that we protect all of our public accommodations, whether it's 149 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 12: the mail, whether it's education, whether it's justice, whether it's environment. 150 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 12: We are fighting for the working people of this country. 151 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 6: And he moved. Merged the Postal Service with Commerce Department 152 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 6: may not be possible without an Act of Congress. Global 153 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: News twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 154 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: it with Bloomberg News Now Michael Barr, and this is 155 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Carrot. 156 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: All right, Michael Barr, thank you time now for the 157 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports Update, brought to you by Tri State Oudie. 158 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: Here's John Stashauer. John, Good morning, de Norny Karen. 159 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 13: With the exception of Saint John's losing Saturday eight to 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 13: ten seed at Arkansas, things in this NCAA tournament had 161 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 13: surprisingly gone according to form eight games yesterday, higher seated 162 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 13: team won seven. The only exception was Ole Miss beating 163 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 13: Iowa State ninety one to seventy eight. Ole Miss one 164 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 13: of four SEC teams to win. Yesterday. Florida unseated two 165 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 13: time defining GM yukon closer game than expected seventy seven 166 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 13: to seventy five. Kentucky took out Illinois eighty four seventy five. 167 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 13: Alabama beet Saint mary He's eighty to sixty six. The 168 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 13: one seeds all still the live. Second straight easy win 169 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 13: for Duke eighty nine sixty six over Baylor. Tyreech practor 170 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 13: hit seven three scored twenty five. Caleb Love twenty nine 171 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 13: points for Arizona in eighty seven eighty three went over Oregon. 172 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 13: Michigan State took out New Mexico seventy one sixty three. 173 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 13: That's the sixteenth Sweet sixteen per Spartan's coach Tom Izzo. 174 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 13: Game of the day was in Seattle's well seated Colorado 175 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 13: State led Maryland most of the day. Hit a late 176 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 13: go ahead three pointer. The Terrapinze bounded with three seconds 177 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 13: to go. 178 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 11: Gillespie, looking to throw it in, gets it up top. 179 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 14: Two queens dribbling left, fix step down the lane runner 180 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 14: for the whim baked Hate Hate Maryland is one. Maryland 181 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 14: is going to the Sweet sixteen Derek Queen with a 182 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 14: runner left of the lane Bagdad. 183 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 13: Now Western one. This will be Maryland's first trip to 184 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 13: twenty sixteen. Four days after Texas lost its NCAA game, 185 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 13: The Xavier the Long Words fired coach Rondy Terry and 186 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 13: will reportedly replace him with Xavier coach Sean Miller. Victor 187 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 13: Hoblin won the Vals for Golf by one shot over 188 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 13: Justin Thomas. Heartbreaking story the death of fourteen year old 189 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 13: Millard Gardner, son of longtime Yankee out with the Brett Gardner. 190 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 13: He became ill well on a family vacation, John Stashcheller, 191 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 13: Bloomberg's Boards, Karen Nathan. 192 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 6: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM. 193 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: And around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 194 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: Bloomberg Business app. 195 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 196 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 6: Good morning. 197 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm Nathan Hager. Liberation Day. It is a phrase we 198 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: have heard a lot from President Donald Trump when it 199 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: comes to his promise of reciprocal tariffs across the board. 200 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 6: April second is liberation Day for our country because we're 201 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 6: going to finally be taking in money. 202 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 11: We're already doing it. 203 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: And that was the President speaking just a week ago. 204 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: But this morning Bloomberg News has learned the across the 205 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: board tariffs that Trump's talked about maybe more targeted than 206 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: previously thought and for more. We're joined now by Bloomberg 207 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: News Senior editor Derek Wallbank. Derek, good morning. What have 208 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: we heard when it comes to the President's tariff plans 209 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: at this point, Well, Nathan, you and I. 210 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 8: Have talked at some length in prior conversations on how 211 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,479 Speaker 8: there kind of is an arbitrage moment between Donald Trump's 212 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 8: maximalist threats and what actually gets done now. We have 213 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 8: talked also about that a maximalist reading of what Trump 214 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,239 Speaker 8: has talked about with reciprocal tariffs would be an absolute 215 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 8: administrative chore right to go through on thousands of product 216 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 8: lines across more than one hundred countries and try and 217 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 8: figure out who gets what and where all things are 218 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 8: going for for not just reciprocal on tariffs but also 219 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 8: non tariff things. It would be an absolute ton And 220 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 8: so what we're given to understand is that Trump's coming 221 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 8: wave of tariffs may be more targeted than what he 222 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 8: had previously threatened. And we're still waiting for what details 223 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 8: of that will look like. But you're already seeing a 224 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 8: positive market. 225 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Response absolutely, with futures firmly in the green this morning. 226 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: So what could this mean when it comes to future negotiation. 227 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: We've seen Senator Danes of Montana in China over the 228 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: weekend word that there are going to be negotiations all 229 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: week long between the Assistant Trade Representative and Indian officials 230 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: as well. Is it going to be a scramble ahead 231 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: of this April second announcement? 232 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 8: Well, you know, I do think that every country is 233 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 8: looking forward to see what they can do and who 234 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 8: they can meet with and where they can go. You know, 235 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 8: I'm sat here in Asia right now, and Australia is 236 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 8: trying to find a way forward to see how they 237 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 8: can leverage their investments, including in planes and other things, 238 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 8: to try and offset some other tariffs that would be 239 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 8: you know, potentially considered. You know, so we're seeing a 240 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 8: lot of those. I mean, I would note as well. 241 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 8: You know, we pushed a story overnight Your Time about 242 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 8: Christy Nome is going to Central and South America. One 243 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 8: of those stops, she's going to meet with President of Mexico. 244 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 8: I would imagine something like this will come up, not 245 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 8: just talk about deportations and border security. So every single 246 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 8: one of these opportunities that world leaders have is going 247 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 8: to be a moment for them to press their case. 248 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 8: We're seeing still a lot of uncertainty from those world 249 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 8: leaders on how to engage the Trump administration. They go 250 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 8: from a sort of elbows up mentality that comes from 251 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 8: ice hockey that Canada is using, to a more kind 252 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 8: of conversational, non confrontational push that Mexico is using. Everyone's 253 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 8: trying to take notes from each other and see what 254 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 8: might work best. 255 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: So what could this mean when it comes to the 256 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: idea of tariff's being a major revenue raiser. If we 257 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: have a more targeted approach, will it be able to 258 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: replace income taxes like President Trump has talked about in 259 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: the past. Got about a minute left. 260 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 8: Well, that is a bit of a catch twenty two, 261 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 8: isn't it. Because the simple math says that the fewer 262 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 8: tariffs that you actually levy, the less tariff revenue you're 263 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 8: going to get. And so if Trump levy's less in 264 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 8: the way of tariffs, he's going to get less revenue. 265 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 8: That will give less revenue available for his domestic priorities. 266 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 8: And remember, Republicans in Congress are already trying to figure 267 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 8: out how to craft a big, beautiful bill, as the 268 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 8: President has said, for some of his domestic priorities, as 269 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 8: well as to extend his tax cuts as well as 270 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 8: additional tax cuts that he has promised, all without exploding 271 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 8: the deficit anymore. And that is a very very tall 272 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 8: order indeed. So it's a lot of difficult decisions. 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