WEBVTT - Prisco, Boselli on Starters Playing, Roster Trimming | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:08.360 It is Monday, August twenty First, this is Jack Wars 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.719 Happy Hours. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:17.920 Jet Home Loans and now alongside Jaguars great and National 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:22.640 Football League Hall of Famer Tony Masselli and some writer 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.640 guy Jay P. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:30.200 Chechar and welcome in a Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday. 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:34.479 Preseason Week three is upon us. The Jaguars and the 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:40.240 Miami Dolphins coming up this Saturday at EverBank Stadium. Plenty 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.240 to get to on today's show. The starters will play 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.200 in preseason week number three. Get ready to see them 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.760 for probably a couple of quarters. Some injuries and the 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:54.080 trenches on both sides of the ball after the trip 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.360 to Detroit. We'll keep it real as we always do 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.279 with Pete and Tony and yes, your final expand questions. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.679 That's all in the second hour tonight on what should 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.880 be a busy Monday. Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson this morning. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.880 Some injuries adding up in the trenches as we mentioned 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:14.040 up in Detroit, but he's not changing his strategy about 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.440 playing the starters this week. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:20.440 I can't really worry too much about who gets hurt 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:22.720 this and that if I do, then then people get hurt, right. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:26.560 I mean, I just think you practice and play just 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.480 like you're getting ready for a regular season game. And 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.440 our starters need some time together on the field and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.080 and you know, so they'll get that opportunity this week, 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.760 and I'll listen, I'll monitor it, I'll be I'll be 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.039 you know, on top of that too, so if if 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.119 I need to pull him out or pull him out. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.240 But right now it's still still full steam ahead. 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.080 Full steam ahead for the head coach. The full press 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:52.280 conference from Doug Peterson available now on Jaguars dot Com 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.440 and the Jaguars YouTube channel. Of course, we're on ten 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.560 ten XL, Jaguars dot Common, Jaguars YouTube, and Tony Vasselli 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.400 and Pete Prisco joined me. Now, good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete, Hello, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:03.840 what's up? 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.720 Guys? How are you they? This is great today. I 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.519 could see Tony, I could see JP and the way 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:10.000 we go. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.760 In high definition and everything. That's great. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.320 And I can hear you, Pete, unlike last week where 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.280 you said, but I could get every other word. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.400 Yeah, well I didn't even hear you because I got 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.320 booted off by the time you got Well. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.360 The good news is for at least me. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.760 The ratings came back and it was two x ratings 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.760 from when you were on. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.680 To I hear there was a severe plummet as soon 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:32.480 as you came play. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.720 Well, all I know is that the first seven minutes 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.040 of the second hour were the highest rated of all time. 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.160 That was just me. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.840 Pete missed it. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.640 J P went on a seven minute monologue and I 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.480 thought his head was going to explode if he was 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:46.400 just talking in circle. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.160 But you know what, Tony, the way he introduces us 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.480 like on the video, and we're also going to be 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.560 joined by two other guys that come on to the show, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:58.040 like I mean, my gosh, we're just happy to be 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.119 on his show today. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:00.920 To deliver chopped delivery. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.679 Well, you know, JP went to management and said and 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.959 he wanted to change the name of the show, JP 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.240 Shaver friends. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.520 Yeah, that's right, and that was going to be top 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.760 of the billing. And then you guys and in five 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.840 print Tony and Pete. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.760 Pretty much that last week, JP, I don't know what 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:20.480 you're talking about. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:26.079 I saw it, so hey, uh plenty to get to. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.800 Here's a lot of a lot of stuff going on 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.400 with this team. Starters are going this week. In Week three, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.720 some injuries have popped up coming out of week number two. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.520 The injury bug here a little bit, so some key 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.720 roster spots up for grabs. So all right, there's a 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.640 lot happening around here right now, Pete. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.560 Yeah, the most concerning thing is Hamilton's back. To me 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.520 that that's I mean, he didn't play. What I couldn't 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.520 figure out is there were reports that he was in 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.640 a boot. Was that true, Tony? 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.720 He was in a boot? I, Pete, that we don't 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.400 fly with the team during preseason, so I never even 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:03.400 went down to the locker room. 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:04.920 I read the same thing you did. 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.840 I heard someone brought up the boot to me, I 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:11.160 had no idea what the injury was, and we hear 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:16.400 it's back. It's concerning from the standpoint of when did 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.640 he get actually hurt? And it's and JP, keep me 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.159 honest here, But was did Doug say was a non 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.000 football injury? 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.200 That's what the team statement said? Yes, non football? 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.560 So is it horsing around? Is it picking up your 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:32.240 child and picking up a kid? 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.240 Or it could be it could be a back that 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:39.000 just sleeping in a hotel bed, sleeping wrong. After two 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.200 days of practice with the Lions. He just got locked 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:44.160 up and couldn't move. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:45.600 I mean, it could be anything. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.040 So, I mean, there's no reason for us to speculate 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.359 and try to figure it out at. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:55.479 Times, speculating this league nowadays because nobody ever tells you anything, well. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.200 Especially especially during the preseason. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.920 Pete and you know this, But just to let our 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.160 fans and listeners no is the team is under no 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.839 obligations to give any injury specifics during training camp until 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.920 week one. The first injury report is the first time 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.279 they actually have to tell the whole story of what 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:16.440 is going on of guys injuries, whether they practice or not, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.599 in their availability for the game. In the preseason, they 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.320 actually don't say anything. They would not even had to 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:29.880 report anything on Devon Hamilton. They could have just let 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:30.320 it ride. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.839 So and all that does expose the kid to doubts 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.599 and questions and everything else. It's a terrible policy. So 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.880 not just Jacksonville, by the way, it's all over the league. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.720 Yeah, I was gonna say, this is not a Jacksonville issue. 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.000 This is not a Doug Peterson er Trump Balkey issue. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.839 This is a league issue. Every team does it pretty 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.160 much the same this time of year. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:53.279 So here's the official statement from earlier. Devon Hamilton is 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.080 currently dealing with a non football related medical issue with 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.479 his back. At this time, we do not have a 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.960 timetable on his return. The Metal Cool staff plans to 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.760 keep us informed in his progress and we'll provide updates 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:07.400 of the appropriate time. And then Doug Peterson earlier today 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.200 said he had some text message back and forth and 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:14.400 things were progressing well today a little better and whatever 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.760 that means, Okay, we'll see day to day. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:22.120 Tony. You had back surgery. I've had back issues. It 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:25.120 can lock up when you're if you sleep in the 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.279 wrong spot or be it in a hotel bed, it 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.440 can lock up. And he can have those issues. But 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.320 what just the way they handled it was weird to me, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.760 And I'm you know, you know me, I'm gonna call 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.800 it out if I think it's strange. It was strange. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:40.159 There was a report of a boot on a foot, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.880 which I don't know if that was true or not. 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.560 If it wasn't, whoever reported it was wrong and they 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.160 should apologize for that. But if there's a boot on 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.760 the foot and you have a bad back, I don't 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:56.440 get it unless and as somebody who suffered with sciatica 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.160 unless and Tony you had it at one point. You 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.480 get if you like your nerve and your leg or 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.919 your you know, your foot. I don't. That's the only 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.280 thing I could think of. But I don't want to. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.640 I mean, yeah, I'm speculating. And the reason I'm speculating 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.120 is because you don't answer the question. Tell him what 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:13.240 it is, just say. 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:17.280 It, well, Pete, Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.040 The boot thing was true, so I'm not gonna be like, 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.640 there's no sense of going down that path. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.720 All we know is what they told us. It's his back. 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.760 I do think it's a big deal because he's had 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.400 a great camp and he is a very important piece 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.280 of the puzzle up front for this team. So getting 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.120 him healthy. I'm glad it happened now and not you know, week. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.920 One, and you just don't know if it's if it's 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:39.680 a disc issue. 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.440 You know, Pete, you brought up I had a little 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.360 at a discuss you bulging disc. Had severe pain down 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.240 the leg at the Hall of Fame last year, and 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.040 right when I got back, had surgery at a dissectomy. 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.040 It was an amazing. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.720 Surgery from the standpoint of I walked out of surgery 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:58.600 forty five. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.520 Minutes after I went in with zero pain. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:07.200 And if I was at top shape, top shape, now 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.720 the doctor wouldn't have let me. But I could have 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:16.760 played that week, I think, So, I mean, uh, maybe 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.280 maybe give me one week. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:19.200 You know. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.480 The protocols were three or four weeks of low activity 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.400 just to let it heal so it doesn't rerupture. But 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:30.960 I mean, I would have been a dumbass and tried 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.320 to play. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.520 Of course, well, and full disclosure here, I was in 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.160 the emergency room in April for a for sciatica down 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.120 my leg and I have a disc problem and I 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.320 instead of having get done, I went through the therapy 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.280 and it's kind of regenerated a little bit. But I 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.360 had probably, I'll be honest with you, I had problems 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.959 with feeling in my leg at times and when I 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:52.960 first got back, and it's taken a while to get back. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:56.640 So if he does have something along those lines, it's 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.640 really concerning and ill. Okay, I'm gonna put it out 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.880 there for both me and Tony as well. One of 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.120 the reasons you have problems with your back is because 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:08.319 you got the cuchine in the front let's be real. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.560 Tony had the cuchine until he did his magical diet. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.480 I had the cuchined until I did my magical diet. 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.440 And so that's one of the things doctors tell you, right, 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.240 I mean, if you have a belly, it's going to 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:22.880 be a problem. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.880 Well, I'm not going to comment on Devon's cachine. Never 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.800 heard cachine Italian. 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:31.800 Yeah, I know. 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:32.280 Where it comes. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.040 Well, he's three hundred and thirty five pounds, so there's 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:38.280 something there he's not He looks. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.720 Like you know what, he actually not like that better 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:40.800 shape to me this year. 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.200 Yeah, he looks great. He's had a great camp. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.800 Like that's why I'm I I get why you're speculating. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.520 I'm just not going to I'm gonna give him the 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.720 penets of the doubt that it's a freak thing, slept 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.520 on it or whatever who knows it is. 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.000 Because they need him, I'm with you. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.960 They need they need them, they definitely. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.839 So that's on top of fully fun of Cossi and 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.280 practice on Wednesday and Detroit goes down. He had a 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.480 boot on the practice field today during the open media 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.400 time on that right foot. So we'll see. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.560 They think, but jp they think he's gonna be back 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:13.520 for open week. 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:14.120 That's the hope. 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.920 Yes, I I actually know what that is. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.200 I just don't know if it's been disclosed from the team, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:20.280 so I'm not gonna say a word. 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:24.600 But based on what I know, he should be back. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.680 Opening weekend, and I think that's the plan inside the building, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:30.480 he'll be ready. 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.480 Like I saw the Dougs. I read Doug's press conference 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.280 answers today and one of them he said, somebody asked 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.240 them about somebody, and he said, oh, it's it's it's 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.760 his leg. I really haven't looked at it. What what 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.560 are we doing photocost with somebody else? 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:49.440 He because that's what these coaches do this time of year, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.760 you know that they don't. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.839 So and so's got it back, He's got this. We'll 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.280 think he's back in a couple of days. He might 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:58.719 be back in a week. He might be back in 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.360 two weeks. With it that the uh, the Cooper Hodges 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.840 got hurt, he's out for half the year or whatever. 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.599 Just go down and do what what what do you 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.480 It's the preseason, there's no games that matter. Where's the competitive. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.720 Edge in it? Pete? 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.960 I agree with you from the stand overall but here's 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.559 the one thing you're missing. If you give too much injury, 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:22.120 it can have a competitive it's a competitive disadvantages you're 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.439 trying to fill out your roster. Because let's say these 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.680 injuries are worse than the Jaguars are letting. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.240 On letting us know right now. 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.040 They don't want the league to know that because that 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:33.240 means they might be active at the end trying to 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.120 capture some guys and make moves to fill those spots 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:37.640 where these guys are hurt. 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:38.880 Well, the guys are right. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.439 Now, Tony. If a Keeam Hicks is out there, if 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.719 you want a big bodied guy and you want to 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.520 bring him in now, and then if he comes in 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.400 and those guys get better, then he get rid of them, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:48.920 or you keep them or get rid of somebody else. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.120 There's ways around that. I don't buy that competitive edge crap. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.679 It's garbage. Everybody in the league does it, though, it's 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:56.960 not just here, so I can't. I'm not just pinpointing 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:57.760 the Jaguars for this. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:05.360 You're your your inner beat writer is coming out, because 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.960 this is Pete on the beat who refuses to let 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:12.120 anyone pass anything by him without him digging in and 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:17.680 finding every conspiracy, every hidden everything, turning over, turning over 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.840 every rock, meeting people in the parking lot, chasing them down. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.439 I mean, Pete, that's why. And I'm not saying this critically. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.400 I'm actually giving you a compliment. This is why you 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.280 were one of the best beat writers in the NFL 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.720 when you were a beat writer, because there's nothing that 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.480 would stop you from finding out the truth. My point is, 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.640 take a deep breath, buddy, you're not on the beat anymore. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.000 Who gives a crap. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.160 It's just I just think that they should when something 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.120 like this comes up, you should just be honest about it. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.719 It's and I've always said this tone. You know I've 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.520 said this. I think it puts the player. It puts 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:51.440 the bad light. 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.680 You can put the player in a bad light either 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.240 way by not saying enough or also telling. And I 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.840 won't bring up any specific example, but you were here 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.360 telling them when a player is going to be back. 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.480 You know it's a week to week injury. When they're 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.360 when the when the muscles off the bone and no 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:10.520 chance are playing all year. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.320 That's put all even the worst situation. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:17.199 Hall of Fame Fred Hall of Famer Fred Taylor says, hello. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.280 Hey, plenty to get to. Of course, we'll come back 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.360 and get into the offense. What to expect from the 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:29.480 starters in preseason week three, defensively, pass rush, all that 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.640 stuff coming up a little later. Second hour. Of course, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.240 we'll have the fanatics, fan questions, and we will keep 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.120 it real if we haven't already. By the way, Jags 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:43.000 fans want customized Jaguars furniture for your home. Check out 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:48.400 zipchair dot com and browse all customizable options zip Chair 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.520 Furniture for fans. We're off and running. It's Jaguars Happy 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.520 Hour presented by Jet Home Loans. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.480 We get Ben barsh back this week. You know, he 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.960 started his time last week. We're going to increase his 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.240 reps this week and he'll have a chance to play 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.800 in the many game and and give us some quality 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:15.440 reps there, you know. And and looking look at the depth, yeah, 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.640 we're we're a little fit at the offensive line. 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.440 It's something we're going to monitor, you know, this week. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.960 But but right now, you know, we're comfortable where we 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.320 are and some of the guys that we're going to 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.000 get back uh here in the next next few days. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.160 So it doesn't look like we're going to add anybody 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:30.800 at this time. 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:36.400 I said coach Chug Peterson earlier today discussing maybe adding 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.520 some more bodies in the O line, but apparently not. 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.640 It's Jaguars Happy hour. It is preseason week three. J P. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.800 Shadwick with Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli. We're on ten 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:52.800 ten xl AM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Yeah, 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:56.760 there's a long list now of offensive line players that 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.600 are on the injury report. Josh Wells one of those 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.760 you mentioned Anton Harrison earlier, did not play in the game, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.880 but is expected to go this week. Moving ahead, Daryl 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.520 Williams had a shoulder issue in the game but stayed 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.280 in throughout the backup center and that sounds like he'll 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.680 be good to go this week. Chandler Brewer is in 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:20.640 the concussion protocol and the third quarter that went in. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.400 Tyler Shatley, as you mentioned, is still out one more 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.920 week of blood thinners apparently, so maybe next week he'll 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.120 be back and ready, not this week. Blake Hants was 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.360 evaluated for a concussion during the game but was cleared, 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.640 but they're monitoring him off to the monitoring his reps. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.440 He's practicing, he's fine. Cooper Hodges with a patella injury, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.560 and that's gonna be a significant amount of time, seems like. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.240 So that's a lot, that's a long list. There goes 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.320 some of the depth, Tony. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.640 I mean, what's well, yeah, I mean let's start with 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:57.080 the tackles. That was a position to depth. And then 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.880 Josh Wells's injury on Wednesday, because he was going to 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.040 be your swing tackle. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.120 And so he looks like he's going to be out 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:05.800 for a while. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.680 Wouldn't be surprised if they do something injury settlement and 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:17.880 then try to bring him back post injury settlement based 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.880 on how long. So you got that is your swings on. 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.560 Now you have your you know, Anton Harrison working through 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.720 a shoulder thinged up again, got tinged up early in camp, 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.640 gets dinged up after a great practice. You I don't 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.480 know if he saw it, but he was awesome. 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:42.240 Awesome, that kid a bunch Well I forget about just 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:43.560 like I always get this night. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.640 I mean, he did, you know, But I'm telling you 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.040 what I liked about it more than just what. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:48.760 He did to Hutchinson. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.760 It's his overall ability to play in space and be 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.239 comfortable in space and recover his feet. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.600 Or so good. He's so smooth, he has better strength 0:16:58.600 --> 0:16:59.160 than I thought. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.040 He's a tough kid. He likes to finish. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:02.880 I think he's. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.639 Gonna I mean, I hate the shoulder, and you know, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.760 I don't know exactly what it is. If it's a sublaxation, 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.639 if it's a little bit of a labrum or both. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:16.080 The word is he could have played, if you know, 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.240 if they needed him on, but they're being smart. None 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.040 of the starters were going to play anyways. He'll play 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.600 against Miami. It's just something he's not have to manage 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.000 at the year, and that worries you. For a young player, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:29.560 it's already hard enough to be a rookie, and then 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.520 you have to manage an injury, which I had to 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:34.520 with my knee that my entire rookie year. And it's 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.680 just something he's just got to deal with and learn 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.800 and it's part of the process. So but staying on tackle, 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.240 one of my biggest concerns is we already knew we 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:45.760 were missing camp for four weeks. 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:48.240 I thought Cam was having. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.440 A pretty good camp until the last you know, did 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.879 not play great in Dallas. I'm not gonna say he 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.280 was terrible Dallas, but they're not playing. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:58.639 Okay, it wasn't good. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.320 I had a pretty good practice Wednesday. I thought he 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.600 looked fine in the in the bull padded joint practice. 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:10.960 But Pete from the game and listen, you. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.719 Know, I'm an offensive line apologist. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.439 I give these guys the benefit of the doubt to 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.280 the nth degree, and I get killed on the show 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.720 from Pete and JP for doing it. I can't even 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:25.000 I can't defend it. I mean, he got run through 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:26.399 three times. 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:27.480 I think it was Pete. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.240 Almost and he held on one of them, and he 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:30.640 got called for a hold on one of them. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.080 Hell and and he was going to against Akuora, who's 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:35.720 gonna play. 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.480 He's a player, but he's not a top end pass rusher. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:39.280 He got back up. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:40.200 What happened? 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.960 He got he got run over multiple times, like he 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.360 was catching him. He's getting run through through his inside shoulder, 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.640 he's holding on, he's getting pushed around. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.879 It was it was almost like he didn't want to 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:54.840 be out there. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.200 And thought the suspension was the first four games out 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.240 in the preseason, and he plays. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.520 Like I don't know, and I get it mentally, it's 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.399 hard for a guy like Cam. He's you know, not 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.800 hurt last year after signed the big deal. He's wants 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.840 to be the franchise left tackle. Then to get suspended 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.359 for four games, so he's gonna be out. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:19.120 So you know, his head's not completely right. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.640 Stringers in the fourth quarter, of course, his head's not right. 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.720 But that's where you have to be a pro and 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.159 go show them like you can count on me. And 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.800 that was And here's the bigger thing, Pete. 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.200 Forget about Phil Rauscher and Doug Peterson and the Jaguars. 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.560 Forget about all that. I'm just telling you he's a player. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.760 You want that on tape? What is that? 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.119 Well, he kind of got called out by Doug Peterson 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:48.640 today too. You know, Doug's not going to call somebody 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.840 out in the preseason, and he kind of did. I mean, 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:54.720 he said he was on the ground a lot. Oh yeah, 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:56.800 let's call the guy out. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:58.600 He was on the ground. That's true. 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:02.480 Huh yeah. And here's here's okay, I'm gonna go back 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:04.840 to what I said and what you agree with me 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.200 before the season. Walker Little should be the left tackle period, 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:08.919 end of story. 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.640 And well, but let me just give a little caveat 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:12.840 to that. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.359 I I mean, everything you've seen in the games this 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.440 year ago, last year, Walker Little last year was playing 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.879 at a very good level, similar to Camp. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.520 Coming to Camp, I think Walker said the better Camp. Now. 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:30.000 Walker was not great against Dallas either, but he was. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.400 He was fine. A little sloppy on his technique, got. 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.200 All over his you know, wait, over his feet a 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:38.080 little bit of a couple of times, but nothing like 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:43.000 nothing that is gonna make you panic. And here's but 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.480 here's Walker is doing exactly what you want a pro 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:47.640 to do. 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:49.720 You think he wants to play left guard, No, but 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.280 he wants to do his best for the team, and 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.040 I appreciate that. So he could slid down. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.520 The left guard, camp start and left tackle. If you 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.359 would have thought anyone was going to struggle in that 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.440 game against the backup, you said, okay, you're gonna give 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.919 Walker Little a pass the first time ever in a 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.480 game in his life, as far as I know ever, 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.520 he's ever played anything but tackle. So he gets rolled 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.280 in there he goes, and I thought he played great. 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.320 I did too. I thought he was. He got to 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:22.600 the second level off the double teams, which is you know, Tony, that. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.200 Takes work, and he was physical. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:27.480 He didn't get overwhelmed at the point of attack. You know, 0:21:27.480 --> 0:21:31.119 it's a different but work different, you know, kind of engagement. 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:35.240 And so now the problem is, Pete, if you're Doug Peterson, 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:37.800 on one hand, you're like, yes, I love it because 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.000 now I can put my five best guys out there 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:42.840 once Cam gets back. But then you go, oh, oh, 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:44.760 is Cam one of our five best if he's gonna 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:45.320 play like that? 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.119 Or are you better with Walker Little at left tackle 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.760 and somebody else playing guard than you are with Walker 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.320 Little at gardens and Cam Robinson left? 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:58.200 Ben Bart? Ben Bart back to form at the start 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.080 of last season, Is he better than all those guys? 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.040 Well, I don't, I don't know if he. I mean, 0:22:04.119 --> 0:22:06.440 I don't. I don't know about that JP. I want 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.880 to see that first. Ben. 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.040 Well, he won the job last year. Pete. 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.439 Yeah, but but it was he ever. I mean, you 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:19.600 can check the box and say, okay, above average offensive guard. 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.200 Yeah, I'm with Pete. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.880 I don't think you you know, what was it eight 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:25.399 nine games he played whatever? 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.640 It was six seven, I can't remember when he hurt. 0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:28.480 It wasn't even that many. 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:31.919 Yeah, it wasn't like when he got hurt. You're like, 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:37.200 you know, he's the future left guard of this franchise. 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.000 Right. It's not like a four year vet that had 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.640 started at that spot got hurt. Now he's coming back 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.159 to take the job back. He's gonna have to go 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:45.600 back in there and win the job. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:46.960 Yeah, you have to win it. 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.440 But yeah, Tony, I'm with you. If Robinson and Little 0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.480 of your best left side, then okay, I personally and 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.080 here's why. And nobody wants to hear this in the 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.600 organization right now, particularly the head coaches, because I said 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:02.000 it to that coach. Walker Little is your best left tackle. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:04.080 If you go into the first four games and he 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.120 plays left tackle even better than he did a year ago, 0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:11.040 and he's he's clearly becoming that guy and the offensive 0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:13.440 line isn't having major issues no matter who's playing left guard. 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.479 Do you make the change just for the sake of 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.439 making the change, even though Cam Robinson is probably not 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:21.960 gonna be here next year and Walker Little will be 0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.880 your left tackle. I just don't like that. I don't 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.399 think that's smart to do. Again, he could go in 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.800 there when the regular season starts, Tony and revert to 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.720 being a guy that doesn't know what he's doing. I 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.320 doubt it. I highly doubt it, but he could and 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.000 if that happens, then you make the movie. You put 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.600 Cam back in there, and you put Walker little left guard. 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.679 But but you're missing the bigger point based on what 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:43.720 you've seen in the preseason. 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:45.439 Do you trust Cam Robinson out there? No? 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.160 I don't, but I. 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.000 Sometimes get something. 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.040 No, Tony, I don't know. 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:52.760 I agree. 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.359 That's why I'm not making a final assessment. I'm still 0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:59.679 a believer in Cam Robinson. It is talent ability. I 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.160 like Cam Robinson. I'm just telling you what I've seen 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.760 on tape. And all you can do is judge what's 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:06.800 on tape. And as a player, why do you want 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:07.920 that on tape anywhere? 0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:10.119 You know? 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:11.120 It's it was. 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.600 Bad and and like you said, they were backups, they 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:15.880 weren't like they were starting. Let's let's let's go through 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.480 two things, JP, who's the opening day five on the 0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.800 offensive line? Who is the week five? And your estimation 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:24.359 for both of you? Who's the we? And I'll give 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:24.720 you mine? 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:30.720 Well, opening days easy, it's Anton Harrison, Brandon Sheriff, Luke 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:31.280 fortn Or. 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:39.960 I think sorry, I think it's I think it's. 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.919 Ben bart is gonna be your left guard, Uh, and 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.320 I think little. 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.359 Left that's the easy guard. What about week five? 0:24:50.680 --> 0:24:53.280 Now, it's not just because I still think Blake Camp's 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.160 could be the left guard, could be the left guard. 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.160 I think it wasn't. 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.000 Awful left guard last week when he played there. 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:06.320 The week five, I still think it's gonna be cam Walker, 0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.480 Little Uh, Fortner, uh Sheriff and Anton Harrison. 0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.240 I do too, but I wouldn't do it if they're 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.200 playing well. It's not playing well easy to say. 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.040 Yeah, if they're like we've talked about before, if they're 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.359 mauling people and they're three and one, whatever the record is. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.439 But if they're mauling people and playing well as a 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.680 line and winning, you know, winning more than they. 0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.600 I mean JP, if they're mauling people, they're going to 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:32.120 be four and oh. 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:36.920 Okay, let's say they're four and none. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.440 Through the first you go through the first four games. 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.360 I mean Indy, they better beat Indy. Rookie quarterback game 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:41.120 is first start ever. 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.680 Yeah, you and I talked about the lack of pass 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.560 rushers the first month against this. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.320 They don't play teams with great outside edge rush, right, 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:49.760 they don't know, so they. 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.480 Better be Kansas City, Kansas didn't coming week two. That's 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:56.080 gonna be a tough matchup. Anytime he played Patrick Mahomes, 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.600 it's a coin flip. And now the guards will have 0:25:58.640 --> 0:25:59.560 a test because Chris. 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:04.320 Jones is like a wrecking ball, wrecking machine. 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:06.800 They played him twice last year. 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:09.880 A wrecking ball. 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.640 Yes, we get that, but they've. 0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:14.119 Seen there are certain guys who are just game records. 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:14.679 He's a game. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:20.440 Record, yes, but but I mean it's at home, it's opening. 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.240 I think we win that game. It'll be how you 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.640 got then you got Houston, which. 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.440 Means you rushed. You're playing Will Anderson, who's a rookie 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:28.080 in his third game. 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:30.840 You should beat them. You're three and oh right, and 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.080 you Atlanta. 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:35.880 Right rushers on the edge, well you should be four 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.679 and oh and so if they are, do you make 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.240 a change. But but here's the other part of the question. 0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.400 We're ignoring it. What if Camp goes out the last 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.120 bit of actual football tape you get from him this 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:54.120 week and Miami Dolphins are running through him again, then 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.240 what do you do? Do you just I mean, oh, 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.280 that's not who he is. He plays better in practice. 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:00.280 I mean do you what do you do. 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:03.680 Well? In pete? 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:05.280 I don't think you roll him out week five in 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.000 London either, because remember he's away from the facility for 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:10.800 four weeks, so his first week back. 0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.879 Practice a couple of weeks in though. Isn't that the 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:13.920 rule you can come back? 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.640 I think I thought I didn't think so. I thought 0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.800 you were four weeks. I thought it to be bad. 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:22.399 I yeah, I'm not sure. But either case, he's not 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:27.680 playing for eight week seven weeks, right is it? If 0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.600 it plays Saturday, then they go one, two, three, four, five, 0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.720 it'll be six weeks by the time he hits somebody. 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.760 And actually, if you count the first two weeks, it's 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.000 eight weeks because he didn't hit anybody in that game. Wow, 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:47.120 all right, alone, I do not I do. 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.919 Not endorse that. I disagree with that comment. That was 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.400 Pete Prisco, not to. 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.600 Yeah, I'm giving you that, but but for him, by 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.400 his standards, by what we've seen when he plays well, 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.840 that was a horrible performance. Period. There's no other way 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:04.680 to share it, to call it out. 0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:05.679 All right, guys, it. 0:28:06.320 --> 0:28:09.520 Was a bad performance regardless. 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He continues to get better right there. 0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.080 So you know, we've got a couple of guys that 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.280 that that are on the roster that can they can 0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:22.360 give us some really good time, you know, in Devon's absence, 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.000 however long that's gonna be. 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.840 Said coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom call 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:33.320 with the media discussing the Jaguars options on the defensive line. 0:29:33.400 --> 0:29:36.960 Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, preseason 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:41.320 Week three. We recapped the Week two win in Detroit. 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.480 The backups had most of the game. This week the 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.680 starters will play against the Dolphins. Maybe a couple of quarters. 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.080 It's Jaguars Happy Hour on ten ten XL, Jaguars dot Com, 0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:57.760 Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco Hey. 0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.000 Adam gots has been around this league for a while now. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.640 His eighth year Ledbetter had a big game. Pete, as 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.040 you referenced earlier, a guy who's been around but hasn't 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:11.280 had a lot of opportunities in his career. Five tackles, 0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.440 a sack, force fumble. You keep playing like that, no 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:16.520 matter who you line up against, you're gonna at least 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:18.800 open some eyes. Let's put it that way. He may 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.760 not have made the team with that performance, but he's 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.400 right there on the edge of it now, right. 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.040 He was active, and that's always a good thing. I mean, 0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.240 he pushed the pocket, he got pressure up the field, 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:30.520 he won in the run game, he held up when 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.040 he had to. I like what I saw from him. 0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.080 Is he going to make the team? That's you know, 0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.840 it depends on how many to keep. It depends on 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.440 the health of guys up front. Yeah, but you know 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:45.280 we mentioned, we mentioned possibility of getting another guy if 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.280 the injuries are a problem. A Keem Hicks is out 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.320 there and he's a big, giant body. I don't know 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.480 what kind of shape he's in, but I mean he's 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:56.720 one of those guys that you know when maybe that's 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.520 worth a look. You know, Tony, you remember he was 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.200 dominant at times in his career. Is a big, big, 0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:03.320 tough guy in the middle. 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.440 The question is how much is he left in the 0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.280 tank and how much does he want to play? 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.719 I mean four hundred pounds or something. You never know, 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:16.840 You're right, I get it, but you look a look 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.320 see and by the way, there are some offensive linemen 0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.800 out there if they're worried about that too. I mean, 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:25.720 like Dalton Reisner started a bunch in Denver. Uh aj 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.880 Kans out there. I mean he started, he was starting 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:34.000 in Houston last week, wasn't last year wasn't awful. I 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.680 mean there's a couple of guys out there if you 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:37.920 got if you need backup guys and you know they're 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.240 gonna come on the one year minimum. The problem with 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.280 those guys, if they're on your active rosters to start 0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.200 the season, you got to pay them, so you'd probably 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.760 wait till after. You'd wait until after bring him in. 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.560 No, I agree, Peat, I mean it'll be interesting. I mean, 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:56.040 I think Ledbetter baking the roster comes down to how 0:31:56.080 --> 0:32:02.840 many guys they want to keep. Because he's on the 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:07.480 fifty three man, because he's a great specialties player, he's four. 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:12.400 The question is, and Doug mentioned Eddie Lacy, you know, 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.360 I mean Eddie Lacy's. 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:21.440 He's probably, He's probably He's probably as big as Tyler. 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:23.320 Tyler. 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.960 Tyler Lacy is a guy that I mean, he drafted him. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.200 He's gonna have the you know, kind of the the 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:34.240 advantage of being in this this uh, this group's draft pick. 0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.800 So I think, now have you noticed him much. 0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:39.560 He's ad a good camp. 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:44.760 I mean he's a big body, his athletic, but Ledbetter's 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.440 production it's hard to argue with. 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.880 I mean, he flashed in the game. 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.360 He played well. I thought he played okay in Dallas too, 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.080 So I mean, well. 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:56.880 We had so many people asking to cut the team, 0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.360 So I mean they want you to cut the team, Tony. 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:01.960 Yeah, I'm not. I'm not ready to do that. 0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:04.600 You're gonna cut the next week. 0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:06.400 Pete had it cut like a month ago. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.040 Yeah, well don't we have the show two weeks before 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:10.800 they do the cuts. 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:12.760 We do, but they're gonna have to. They might cut 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.760 it before Tuesday, so your information will be outdated. 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:18.600 Yeah, they don't do it. They won't no cut Tuesday, 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:19.280 We'll do it Monday. 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:24.680 Yeah, he just doesn't want to do I see what 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:25.960 you're doing. You don't want to do it. 0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:27.400 Stall tactic classic. 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.160 It is a stall tactic because then you know why JP, 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.960 Because if they cut before next Monday, then we don't 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.200 have to do it. I see what you do it. 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:37.560 It's gonna wait play the waiting game. 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:43.080 But I mean you think five defense interior defensive lineman period. 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:45.560 Yeah, I think so. 0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:48.360 So in that case, if everybody's healthy, it comes down 0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:52.880 to leadbetter versus lazy, and they'll keep lazy. I think, 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.360 how many pass rushers do you keep? Four? 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.400 At least four? Yeah, maybe five? 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:00.640 Who are they? 0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:02.480 Ten total players? Then? 0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:03.160 Who are I think? 0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.480 I think yeah, because I think you keep uh, You're 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.600 gonna keep Dan Smoot and he can kick down and 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.959 place inside smooth. 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:17.400 Abdullah the two starters and Chase on Yep, we're getting there. 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:23.520 We're cutting the team. I got nice job. 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.880 The question becomes how many linebackers do they keep on 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:27.960 the inside. 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:36.840 For we're gonna keep uh, Muma, Lloyd and. 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:43.640 Uh and probably and who shack Corman staying well. 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.040 I think it comes down to Miller, quarter and Miller. 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.040 And the problem with Miller has not been he's been 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.680 banged up and he had an injury history coming out 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.880 of Florida, and he's missed. 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:55.479 Quite a bit of time. 0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.879 But the draft pack, well, Miller's more. 0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.880 Than Miller's more talented because he's he's more athletic. But 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.600 Quarterman is just he's solid, he's always out there, he's 0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.200 never heard. 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:09.040 He does everything you ask him to do. 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.480 So they wouldn't keep all of them, though. 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:14.879 No, they're gonna keep four. 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.560 And then going to the secondary. 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.920 Now, I think it comes down to Quarterman or Miller. 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.839 I agree. Then you get there the secondary, you got 0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:29.840 some young guys that have flashback there. 0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.840 Well, you're you're you're keeping. Let's start with safety. That's easy. 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:42.920 Zisco Jenkins winger, winger, and I think you keep Daniel Thomas. 0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:43.200 And Thomas has played well pretty. 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:44.799 Well and he and he's a and he's a core 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:45.759 special teams. 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:46.880 So there's your four there. 0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.000 But I think they're gonna keep five because I think 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.440 Antonio Johnson's gonna make this. 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.839 Oh yeah, that's what's kind of like a hybrid guy 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:53.479 will count hands. 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.840 So yeah, I think I think ultimately they want Antonio 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:56.840 Johnson to be their nickel. 0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.320 I would agree play that he could, he could handle it. 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:03.800 Get put him in there and let him play a 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:04.839 guy like Kelsey if you have. 0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.800 To go to see what the hamstring, how that's gonna 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.600 go though, right, I mean, he's got a hamstring issue 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.080 right now. 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.279 So but he's gonna be on the team. You're right, 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:14.440 He's going to be on the team. 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.479 He's on the team. So that's five. And then you're 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.680 you're looking at your corners. Well, you know, Darius Williams 0:36:19.719 --> 0:36:21.440 and Tyson Campbell are going to be. 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:21.960 On the roster. 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:23.759 Rest of them are up for grabs. 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.080 I think Trey makes it because push comes to shove. 0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:30.799 You know, he can go play nickel and he can 0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:31.760 play special teams. 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.719 I think then it comes down to who I think 0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.360 they want Antonio Johnson to be that nickel, but. 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:43.120 Corners though. 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.680 Gregory is right there on the doorstep too. He's got 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:46.560 to be now, Gregory. 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.880 Yeah, Gregory Junior is on the doorstep. I think Braswell 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:51.440 has done enough this preseason to bake. 0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:54.040 Braswell has done some Yeah, I think Braswell's done some 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.680 good stuff. Hallett was bad the other day. I think 0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.279 that could be a problem for him. What about so 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:06.720 you keep five? So it comes down to keep you. 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.600 They probably will keep Herndon Tony just to keep because 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:10.920 he's they're comfortable with him. 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.080 They maybe keep keep Braswell and Gregory Jr. 0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:20.560 Five. Yeah, okay, we'll come back and cut the offense 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.959 in just a moment. 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.160 Yeah, this has been great that you do it. You 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:27.759 didn't even know you were doing it. That's that's the 0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.440 greatness of a good beat guy. 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Glad you're with us. 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:15.320 Preseason Week three coming up the Jaguars entertaining the Dolphins Saturday, 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:21.400 seven o'clock kickoff time seven oh seven officially the kickoff 0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:26.239 time Saturday at EverBank Stadium, so tickets available. Starters will 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:30.359 go for a half week. Just tricked Tony Boselli into 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.520 cutting the defense. And I let. 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.800 That was really easy, by the way. 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:38.960 That was like an easy setup, Pete. 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:41.240 Because I knew what was coming. I knew it was coming. 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.320 I let you guys get the joy. 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.080 Well, you thought they were gonna cut it before we 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.919 had to do it, and he didn't want to get beat. 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.080 They look forward to it. The fans look forward to this, Tony. 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.400 They do. The fans are clamoring no, and I know 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.719 they're clamoring now for the offense. I mean, this is 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.480 this shouldn't be as difficult the offense is. There's a 0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:05.080 couple of keys. 0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.960 Let's start with the quarterback. Do you keep three? 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.040 Let's do that last, because it depends on how many 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:12.920 spots you have left. 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.279 Okay, interesting, all. 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:23.520 Right, So offensive linemen, you're gonna keep ten? No, nine, eight, No, 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.080 you'll keep more than eight with the. 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:31.319 Okay, maybe nine, So it's you're starting five. It's up 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:32.240 with Birch in there. 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.839 But remember you're keeping Cam doesn't count against the roster, 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:36.919 so you can't count him. 0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:39.760 I'm not right now, Okay. 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:47.400 I think uh Blake can't is making it six? 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.160 The unknown is Shaley and the. 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:54.319 A fib Well, he's apparently going to give a go 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.800 next week, so if he's back. 0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.720 He's on yep, and then h that's seven. 0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.880 Hodges would have made it, but he want. 0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.239 Well I think I actually think he makes it, and 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.360 then they put him on I r return later, So 0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.560 putt Hodges is eight because opening, I mean, I think 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:21.040 he makes the initial roster. You know, you might keep 0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:26.640 Bobby Evans as a swing tackle, unless you because who 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:27.439 else is going to play? 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.640 Because I mean, because right now you have no swing 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.080 you have no left tackle besides walk a little now, 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:35.960 Anthon Harrison can do that, but you don't want to 0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:36.520 ask him. 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.240 You want to as a rookie, want him at one position. 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:46.520 Yeah, what do you do? What do you do with 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:49.960 If Shatley isn't back all the way, you have to 0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.040 find somebody who can snap the football. So do you 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:53.200 keep the backup center? 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.040 I think I think you got to keep Darryl Williams 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.520 at that point. 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.200 He's not bad. He's been okay too. Though he's not 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.359 he's not He's a solid player in there. 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.880 I think I think I think getting the eight or nine, 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:06.359 it will probably be nine. 0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.920 Offensive linement is tough right now because of all the injuries. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.280 We don't know enough. We're not going to know until 0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.520 next week. 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:15.560 And what's Wells's injury. 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:17.840 They have not reported. 0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:25.640 It's an adductor is what groin area? 0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.040 Yes so, And I heard of the bad version. 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.960 So if it's the bad version, that's how long tony 0:41:32.080 --> 0:41:32.640 six weeks? 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:34.279 Maybe eight? 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:35.719 Yes so? 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:40.359 But didn't didn't Sheriff play within that same exact thing 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.439 last year and ended up having surgery on it after 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:42.840 the season. 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.520 I think it's a little different. I think this is 0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.400 I think this is a little more severe. 0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.200 Well If that's the case, then he's gone for a 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.680 long time, so you can't count him. But you're right, 0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.080 they have to keep a swing tackle because you you 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.279 can't count on Cam being swing Tackleckle or Walker Little 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.520 be the swing tackle or whoever. So that you're right, 0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:10.080 Bobby Evans might be a guy they keep you play 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:10.759 tackle too. 0:42:10.800 --> 0:42:13.480 Though he can play right, I don't think he can 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.080 play left right. 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.160 So he counts as the swing guard and the swing 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:21.320 tackle right tackle, and then you can count Bobby Evans. 0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.840 He could play wherever he has to play. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.040 What's position group is next? Pet tight ends? Yeah? 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:31.440 Well, by the way, that kid is a maller and 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.000 is a run blocker. 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.200 Today. 0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:39.560 I mean, you don't ever draft the guy the third 0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:41.240 round because he's a maller as a blocker. 0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:44.880 But he is that he runs. He's not bad in 0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:45.439 the past game. 0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:47.680 He's not what he isn't is sudden. 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:52.000 He's gonna be what he gives you when he is 0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:53.080 a in line tight end. 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.080 They did not have this last man. Hurts was no 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:57.960 threat in the pass game. He's at least a threat 0:42:57.960 --> 0:42:59.280 in the past g he's. 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:06.920 More of a threat. Yes, so he's he's on Uh Ingram. Yeah, 0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.080 and then then you go down and you got it? 0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.319 How many more do you keep too? 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:13.600 Making? 0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.160 Luke Farrell is on the team. 0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.600 Right, and then Garrett Prince, your guy? 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.759 Did he fizzle out? Because he was the sensation of 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:26.640 early in camp and he hasn't really been that much. 0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:32.040 Who the other options right now are Garrett Prince, Josh Peterson, 0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.440 Derek Parrish. 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:35.760 It's probably Prince. 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:37.160 It's Prince. 0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:38.759 Okay, so there's four. 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.759 There's four running backs. 0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.480 Wide receivers, wide receivers. You're keeping six. It's this is easy. 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:49.080 It's it's Ridley, Zay Jones. 0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:55.640 Christian Kirk, Parker, Washington jam Jamal Agnew. I think it 0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:56.240 is Parker. 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:57.799 I don't know. I don't think he has any role 0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:58.960 this year at all. 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:01.320 No, he's the guy who sit down on game. 0:44:02.719 --> 0:44:04.480 It's I think he's an active game day. 0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.680 I think it comes down to either Tim Jones or 0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.280 Paris taking Paris. 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.600 I would agree Tim Jones is kind of the incumbent 0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:17.759 in that spot, right. Special teams guys. 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.040 He's better on special teams, isn't he. 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.880 Well, just because you've seen it, Harris has had a 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.560 good camp on special teams. He's worked really hard at it. 0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.040 But I think Tim Jones ends up getting that job 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.080 from betting Man. 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:33.360 So Parker Washington they have no and adding Ridley, they 0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:35.160 have no real change on that. It's the same group. 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:39.880 Then do you do you but Washington? What's he doesn't 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.520 do anything? So would you tuck him? Try and tuck 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.319 him on the practice squad? If he does, he is 0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:47.000 he canny play special teams. 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.000 Can get him through there. I don't know about that. 0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.080 I don't think he gets through. I don't think he 0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:51.600 gets through. 0:44:51.840 --> 0:44:56.120 Okay, so he's he's uh he So you keep six 0:44:56.200 --> 0:44:58.480 and that's done. Running backs? 0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.000 Well, you're keeping obviously ETN and. 0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:04.920 Uh big B. 0:45:06.080 --> 0:45:08.400 I think I think I think four. It's can be 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.080 hasty and uh uh Johnson? 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.760 Yeah, what if they keep three hasty? 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.359 I don't know. Johnson's look good this camp, he. 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:22.040 Has looked good. I think you keep all. I think 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.120 he keeps the four of them. 0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:26.760 So that gets us to quarterback. 0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.680 I think they only keep two quarterbacks. 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:33.479 I would agree with you. I think they'll they'll put 0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:38.120 Rourke on the practice squad. Somebody was asking the other day, 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:41.239 is did Rourke out play betht in the preseason? 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:42.480 Yes? 0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:44.440 Do you think he's better than Bethert. 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:48.520 Pete, I'll say what I said this morning with Hicken. 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.680 I'm gonna give you the chance to see if you 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:57.360 get it right. Listen me, because basically, I mean you 0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.839 evaluate every player based on what the response its abilities are. 0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.719 What are their skill sets? So what are you asking 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:03.120 them to do? 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:05.040 What are their skill sets and how do they perform 0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:09.560 those skill sets. Let's be out the responsibilities for a 0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:10.920 backup quarterback. 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:11.160 In this league. 0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.040 Be a good buddy of the head of the starting. 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:23.560 Quarterback psychologist, make the room good, well right, and then 0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:25.280 you get into can you play? 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.040 But you also you can look at what Bethert's salary 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:31.080 isn't little. 0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:35.600 Let me say this, Pete, They're not getting rid of Beth. 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.200 He is the backup quarterback. I don't care what I mean. 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:42.120 Peterson said that yesterday or after the game or yeah. 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.040 Yeah, I mean he is. 0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:45.719 He's the backup because he does what you need With 0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:47.640 Trevor Lawrence is your quarterback. 0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:48.640 I don't think you. 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.879 Want a young guy who's never played in this league 0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.400 in Roark mean your backup with Trevor Lawrence is your starter. 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:58.040 That's not the he doesn't you don't save that money. 0:46:58.600 --> 0:46:59.680 You don't you save? 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:05.040 Yeah, what's sign He's not going anywhere. We're back in 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.080 a moment. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour ahead your 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.719 questions and much more. A Jaguars Happy Hour presented by 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.000 Jet Home Loans. 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:28.560 You can't substitute game game reps and the feeling of 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:30.480 you know, a little bit of pressure and a little 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:34.080 heat from you know, execution and in practice. It's okay 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:35.799 to make a mistake because we can correct. 0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:36.080 It in the film. 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.360 In the game, you know, it gets magnified. So I 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.440 just need those guys to play together, you know. Obviously 0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:44.680 if they can play two cores, I'd love to get 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:46.480 you know, a two minute drive if we could. Those 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.720 are all things that you know, it's hard to simulate 0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.840 and practice. We'd love to get the defense a two. 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.839 Minute scenario there as well, you know, so we'll see 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.520 how it goes. But they need they need the time 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.800 on the you know, in a game, in a game setting, 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:02.839 and being a home game too, it makes a little 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:03.520 bit easier that way. 0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.600 That's head coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom 0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:10.520 call the media and welcome back. Second hour of Jaguars 0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:15.400 Happy Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. The Jaguars 0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:18.960 recapping preseason Week two, a win in Detroit. The reserves 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.520 got all the time in the game. This week, the 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:25.400 starters will play against the Miami Dolphins Saturday at EverBank 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:29.279 Stadium and should be a nice night for it. Seven 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:33.760 o'clock kickoff time. Jaguars got the win though in Detroit Saturday, 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.360 twenty five to seven the final score. The injuries starting 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.160 to pile up on the offensive end defensive lines, especially 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.359 in the O line. The depth being tested there. Two 0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.280 front line defensive linemen are demed up right now fully 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:50.280 Patacasi and of von Hamilton. Phatakasi is week to week Hamilton, 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:54.120 no true timetable has been announced. Walker Little played left 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.439 guard in the first half last week for a look 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.600 at what could be an option once Cam Robinson returns 0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:02.200 from his four game suspension, and as we said onto 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.839 preseason week three, Doug Peterson looking for a half from 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.399 the starters and a few certain situations. There are still 0:49:09.400 --> 0:49:13.520 some position battles to be decided. Sixth receiver, fifth or 0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.440 sixth receiver, whichever way you want to look at it. 0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.880 Third corner as well, just to name a couple, Tony Vasselli, 0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:23.439 Pete Prisco of course with us every single Monday. We've 0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.359 cut the team already, Pete, congrats. 0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:27.600 See I knew I would get him to do it. 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.319 Yeah, but did we do the map? It feels like 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:32.160 we have like fifty six guys on the roster. 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.600 I don't think so. You kept the ad and guys. 0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:39.440 We had ten defense the line and outside backers. We 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:45.080 had ten secondary. That's twenty We had four backers. That's 0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:51.879 twenty four on defense, right, yes, okay, twenty four defensive guys. 0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:55.960 On offense, we had lineman, nine offensive lineman. Two quarterbacks 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:57.880 that's eleven. Four running backs. 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.640 At fifteen or tight six wide receivers. 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:04.560 That's twenty two. Four tight ends twenty six. That's fifty 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.719 that you have your three specialist thingo fifty three. 0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:08.279 We nailed it. 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.640 We got it right on the right, right on the number. 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:11.319 It's pretty good. 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.520 You know, Doug and Trent can go home for the 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:16.680 rest of the next two weeks. We did their work 0:50:16.719 --> 0:50:17.480 for them. 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.839 Show they probably they probably like you to take over 0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.000 when they cut his son. 0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:28.200 I'm staying away from family, Pete. 0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:30.600 I mean, that's a harsh one. I feel bad for 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:34.800 whoever has to do that. You know what, though, he 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.680 got an opportunity to be in a training camp. 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.600 I think that's what And that's what he said when 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.040 they media talked to Josh Peters. 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.040 Late in the and he played in the in the 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:43.959 league in the I mean that's the. 0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:45.720 First time around he's been around. 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.160 So no, yeah, and yeah, I'll tell you what. When 0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.120 he was in that league, he made plays in that league. 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:59.560 So that's all ahead. The cut has been made here 0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:01.440 on Jangle is happy hour. They'll have to make the 0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:05.920 cut officially by four o'clock of Tuesday next week. That's 0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:06.520 what it has to be. 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.360 By the way, there's one guy or two guys that 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.000 are gonna make the team that we don't have on 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:13.080 the team. Let's be real. 0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:17.640 Here's a question. How many cut Jaguars players will be 0:51:17.760 --> 0:51:21.080 claimed by other teams. 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.919 I think injuries have impacted that. On the offensive line. 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:26.319 You might have had a guy get cut on the 0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:28.520 offensive line that might have gotten claimed, but I don't 0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.360 think that's the case now with the injuries being what 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:34.800 they are. You know, Tony, when you look around the NFL, 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.160 the backup offensive lines are terrible. 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:40.720 I think we're pretty deep at receiver. 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.279 I could see some of those receivers getting signed as 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:44.239 the fifth or sixth guy. 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.359 Yeah, whoever that sixth guy or seventh guy is. You know, 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.000 if it's not Tim Jones the. 0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:51.719 Seventh guy, if it comes down to Tim Jones and 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.520 Harris at one of those guys would be the seventh Yeah. 0:51:56.480 --> 0:51:58.799 And tape out there, because the Harris is the third 0:51:58.840 --> 0:52:03.399 year guy, and you know, and Tim Jones's second year guy. 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.440 What about the other guys that have flashed receiver? Some 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.560 of those guys, remember. 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:13.319 Eighty four of the big guy Cooks, Elijah Cooks. He's 0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.440 an interesting one to me. He's a big old dude 0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.040 and good hands and physical. 0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:23.040 So what Okay, So maybe one guy there, But I 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:27.440 don't think there's really many surprises for us. That's actually 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:31.120 a good thing. I think when you don't have that, 0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:32.799 you know what I mean, Tony, In the past, you'd 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.960 always say, well, this guy, these two three can make it, 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.000 but this guy can't. You know. Now it's pretty much 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:39.160 cut and dried, and I think that tells you that's 0:52:39.200 --> 0:52:41.640 a good football team. 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:42.000 Yeah. 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.839 No, there were definitely a much better team than they 0:52:45.880 --> 0:52:48.799 were at most places. I don't think everywhere I don't 0:52:48.840 --> 0:52:50.879 think their rush is as good as it was last 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:56.120 year with arden Key and Want Smooth Healthy. But yeah, 0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.320 I agree with you. I think most places they're better 0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.399 than they've been for a long time. 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.399 If if Photocassi and Hamilton can't play this week, which 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:07.320 is all probability, how will they start up front? 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.360 If Peterson said they're both out anyway this week already? 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.000 Oh he did, I don't hear him say that. Okay, 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.520 so they're out, So who starts? Because you're working with 0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:18.920 the ones who would be working. Goats would be one 0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:19.560 of them, right. 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:20.440 Yeah, I think? 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.160 I mean, do you start Lacey at at one technique 0:53:24.160 --> 0:53:25.400 knows give him reps? 0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.480 Maybe maybe would draft pick No, I. 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.680 Would start Lacey the practice squad. 0:53:33.719 --> 0:53:35.040 We talked about him before the show. 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:37.560 Yeah, I don't think he makes it, So let's put 0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:43.040 Lacey out there. I again, let me say one for 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:48.279 the fifth time, JP, he's not listening to you. 0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.120 I know you think this is your show, JP. 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:56.040 Coast Week. 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:58.759 Give him credits to people that Pete and I have 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:00.800 made a list on a piece of paper to replace 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:01.040 you with. 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:02.839 If you don't get your ass straight and got act 0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:03.520 like at your show. 0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:05.800 By the way, JP. I heard him say put Lacey 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:08.800 get lazy shot five times and you didn't even acknowledge 0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:09.359 I heard it. 0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:11.880 I heard it every time. I'm just going through other names. 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.480 It could be possibilities. 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.279 Oh my god, there's a way to do that. 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:18.640 JP. 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:21.319 You can say, Okay, you think it's Lacey, any chance 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:22.640 it could be any of these other guys. 0:54:22.680 --> 0:54:24.320 Not just ignoring what I said. 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:27.919 I was acknowledging. 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:30.880 Wait, why don't you take a break, JP, get a 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:31.480 cup of coffee? 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.600 Pete, I got it could be led better to Tony 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:35.480 exactly what are you? 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.600 What is that yelling at him? 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.560 He at least acknowledges this his thought on it. 0:54:44.840 --> 0:54:45.719 But Pete, I agree with you. 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:47.520 But don't you want to see what the work he 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:48.879 can do with the starters out there? 0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:49.439 Yeah? 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:52.040 I would, I would, I would. I'd play lazy. 0:54:53.760 --> 0:54:54.160 You know what? 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:56.600 Not Eddie lazy? J Tyler. 0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:58.600 Hey, you're the one who brought that up, not me, 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:00.040 by the way. 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:04.120 But I mean, do you how long are they going 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:04.920 to play the starters? 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:05.399 Half? 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:06.000 A couple. 0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:12.960 A lot of football? Why you wouldn't you played a 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.040 third preseason game and you had to come out after 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.040 half to get a sense for what that feels. 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.360 Like, yeah, because I didn't know. I've never done that before. 0:55:23.000 --> 0:55:25.160 Everybody in the league did it. Everybody did it. 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:30.200 Real halftime adjustments, right, great, I. 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.799 Never quite got that one basically what that was in 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:35.279 the preseason tom yelling at us that we didn't do 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.680 good enough in the first half, ripping us and telling 0:55:37.760 --> 0:55:38.719 us to go back out there. 0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.839 But you agree with me in this that I think 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.080 starters should play a sum in this game, not just 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.279 in Jacksonville, but all across the league because you're gonna 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:50.279 go three weeks without a month without playing. 0:55:50.000 --> 0:55:56.120 Any football and limited the limited full pad reps you 0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.640 get in the practice field too, so you're not gonna 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:01.600 have a lot of contact between the last preseason game 0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:02.359 and opening day. 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.880 So I do think it's something you should go. I 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:09.120 like Doug's approach half. I think it's good. Yeah, there's risk, 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:14.000 there's risking everything. Heck that Devon Hamilton got hurt with 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:15.120 no football. 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:17.919 Right and and guys get hurt on the practice field 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:20.840 all the time. Guys get hurt, you know, running drills, 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.440 they plant, and I mean no it absolutely play them. 0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:27.839 I'm a big believer in this week especially guys should 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:30.160 around the league should play because they got to hit. 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:31.640 You got to hit somebody. 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.440 Are the Dolphins gonna play, Pete? 0:56:36.000 --> 0:56:38.680 They played guys in this this past week too, so 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.080 I would imagine they will. I haven't heard, but I 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:42.680 would imagine they will. 0:56:42.920 --> 0:56:44.359 I can find out you live down there. 0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:49.719 Again. It goes that back to if you if you 0:56:49.840 --> 0:56:53.840 don't play the third preseason game, you got week, you 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:56.920 got four weeks? No was it three full weeks? Four 0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.480 full weeks without hitting somebody that matters? And if you 0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.800 didn't play this second one, like you just say that 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:04.040 Jacksonville didn't play their starters. Those guys wouldn't have played 0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:06.440 barely at all except for the first week. And then 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.120 you go play a game in five and a half 0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.640 what six weeks after that? That makes no sense. Gotta play? 0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:15.400 Would you have wanted to play? 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:17.680 I wanted to know. 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.640 Would you have realized that it was good for you 0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:22.120 to play? 0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:24.919 I'm being honest, Bete. 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:29.120 I felt like two weeks of practice won you know, 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:30.480 half of a preseason game. 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:31.680 I'm ready to go play. 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.920 From a But you don't tackle either, though? Don't you 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:36.600 think tackling? 0:57:36.640 --> 0:57:37.680 Though I only did. 0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:39.600 I only do the hardest thing on the field, block 0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:43.520 of far superior acts go backwards by myself. 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.480 No, I don't need I mean, that was the dumbest 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:47.760 thing I've ever heard tackling. 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:49.480 So you told me when I was there that you 0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:51.080 were ready to go in the way they play office. 0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:52.680 Now you could do it right now. 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:56.840 Two hundred and sixty, I was talking to Press Taylor 0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:01.800 about uh and the way Press Taylor and Doug has 0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:07.280 designed this offense is so offensive line friendly, Like they 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.040 never just straight drop back on first or second down 0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:14.080 unless it's like second and eight plus, they like they 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:15.960 are always moving the pocket. 0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:18.240 There's always some action in the backfield. 0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:21.760 And even when they do straight back drop back, it's 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.680 like the balls out of Trevor's hand. They getting these 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:30.520 empty sets, They've scats. It's a quick game, like like one. 0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:33.400 Of the head coach in the NFL. Oh gosh, yeah, 0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:37.720 soon impressed. I love the way they designed the offense. 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:40.880 And I think he has that same kind of mentality 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:44.000 as brother. He's just I think he If Trevor has 0:58:44.000 --> 0:58:45.720 the kind of season I predicted he would have and 0:58:45.800 --> 0:58:47.520 this team has the kind of season I predicted you have, 0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.560 Press Taylor might be a head coach next year. 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:51.600 Yes, he is. Really good. 0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:53.920 And I'm just telling you, and you know, obviously I 0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:56.640 was being facetious. Where I can go play right now. 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.240 The only Hall of Famer ever to come out of 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:01.560 retirement and go play again. 0:59:02.840 --> 0:59:08.680 About playing, My point was, my whole point was though, 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.040 the way that they have designed this offense is so 0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.360 friendly that and I'm gonna go do I'll do it 0:59:13.360 --> 0:59:16.640 one of these games in the regular season. I bet 0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:19.160 it's I bet you it's only a handful of times. 0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:21.680 You're in a very difficult situation when. 0:59:21.520 --> 0:59:24.320 You're one on one and you know, you know you're 0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.160 getting no help and you're by yourself. 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:32.760 So I think the design of the offense and a 0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:34.840 lot of the offense is now in this league, Tony, 0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.439 they make it easy on the on the offensive line. 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:41.040 Well, you have to pete because one the defenders are 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:44.320 I mean, they were like this. I mean, I mean, 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.200 let's call it what it is. They're better athletes than 0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.320 the guys that were trying. You know, I feel like 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:49.640 I'm a pretty good athlete. 0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:50.800 It was good at what I did. 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:52.440 But I knew when I went and faced you know, 0:59:52.520 --> 0:59:55.360 Derrick Thomas or Bruce Smith or Jason Taylor. 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:58.320 Any of these guys that they were some of the 0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:02.560 top athletes on their entire team, in the entire world, 1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:06.560 and so you gotta go. You gotta That's why I. 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:08.680 Think playing offensive line is as much between the ears 1:00:08.680 --> 1:00:09.439 as anything else. 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:12.200 It's it's a thinking man's position. I think your way 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:14.840 through it for yourself, you know, put yourself in a position. 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:17.160 That puts them in the mind as many times as 1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:19.160 you can, and I think the offense helps do that. 1:00:19.480 --> 1:00:23.800 With all that said, back to the original point, I'll 1:00:23.800 --> 1:00:25.560 tell you this, I didn't need six weeks of two 1:00:25.640 --> 1:00:27.800 days and four preseason games to be ready to play 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:30.840 an NFL game now. But it's not just but this 1:00:30.920 --> 1:00:32.360 is what we miss all the time. It's not just 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:36.080 about Tony Decelli or you know said player, because there's 1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.600 veterans on this team. I guarantee you Brandon Sheriff. 1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:40.400 Is ready to go play a regular season game right now, 1:00:41.160 --> 1:00:41.960 right this second. 1:00:42.040 --> 1:00:43.520 If you roll them out and said you gotta play 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:46.520 four quarters against Chris Jones this week, he'd be ready 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:46.720 to go. 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:51.920 Did you need did you practices a handful? 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:53.000 Because I need to. 1:00:53.040 --> 1:00:58.840 I need I needed to feel the. 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:57.840 The shock, the pain. 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.800 I need to get my get some calim is built out, 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:01.600 built up. 1:01:03.120 --> 1:01:04.919 So how many padded practices that they had? 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:08.880 Very many? I have no idea. 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:13.040 They had to row and they had to take three 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:14.400 days off. That's the rule. 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.160 At one that was like, yeah, they probably if I 1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:18.400 had a grand total of. 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.480 Six or seven somewhere in there. 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:22.439 Maybe you guys had that many in a week. 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.520 They only did one in Detroit. They only did one 1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:27.080 in Detroit. 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:30.080 We had we did eight in the first first four days. 1:01:30.400 --> 1:01:32.520 That's what I'm saying. You had that many in a week. 1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.520 Less than a week the week we were there. 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:40.920 Since you're coming back, are they do they still have 1:01:40.920 --> 1:01:43.920 your size nine helmet in the equipment? 1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:46.840 I was a seven and seven eight. 1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:51.800 That is a lie lie lie on the top of 1:01:51.880 --> 1:01:54.600 your head. You're not strapping it in like a helmet. 1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:57.800 But I'm going back. I'm going back to my point 1:01:57.840 --> 1:02:01.800 Pete before we go to bar I how many you know? 1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.800 But it's it's not about the individual player part of 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:07.400 the preseason and why you need these reps is to 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.800 get everyone on the same page, operating as a unit, 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:12.840 you know, getting in out of the huddle, getting on 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:16.560 the snap, let the quarterback read things, communicate the play 1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:18.200 change you know, timing. 1:02:18.280 --> 1:02:20.280 I mean, those are all important things that you need 1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:22.920 reps to do. So it's less about. 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:25.439 The individual player, in my opinion, it's the overall where 1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:27.160 you are as a team. And that's what I heard 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:28.960 Doug say. You only can get so much out of 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:32.200 it in practice. It's when you go on the field. 1:02:32.400 --> 1:02:35.080 The coaches are on the sideline, it's Trevor and the 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:37.040 ten other guys in the huddle. You call the play, 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.920 you're making the changes, you're communicating, you're seeing at full speed, 1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:43.840 you're making adjustments on the fly. That's what I think 1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:47.160 Doug's talking about. And that's the valuable, valuable part of 1:02:47.360 --> 1:02:48.200 camp and preseason. 1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:50.880 The ones got a ton of work in Detroit, though, 1:02:51.040 --> 1:02:53.680 they got a lot of work in those but again, 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:58.720 the quarterbacks not getting hit, the receivers aren't getting blasted, 1:02:58.960 --> 1:03:02.800 and the running back is getting popped going through the line. 1:03:02.880 --> 1:03:05.120 So it's it's still different, still not the same. 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:10.160 Sope, we're back in a moment. We're gonna keep it 1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:14.440 real when we come back, and it concerns the defensive 1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:18.560 line for the Jaguars. 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It is Monday, 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:43.080 and it's preseason Week three, JP Shadrick, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco, 1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:47.600 the Jaguars and the Miami Dolphins, Saturday, seven o'clock EverBank 1:03:47.640 --> 1:03:52.200 Stadium tickets available, starters are playing, and it's time now 1:03:52.240 --> 1:03:56.160 for keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundabi. 1:03:56.320 --> 1:03:59.520 Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line 1:03:59.560 --> 1:04:06.440 by Robert Mondavi and this consists of the defensive line. 1:04:06.960 --> 1:04:11.240 How concerned are you about the injuries of Patakasi and 1:04:11.360 --> 1:04:15.520 Hamilton and should they bring in additional help? 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:24.440 Mother, First, I am very concerned, one because Von Hamilton's 1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:27.400 had a great camp and he's a very important part 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:31.440 Potocosi's you know, a guy you're counting on. I think 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:34.040 the interior three to be really good. Add worry Robertson 1:04:34.080 --> 1:04:37.360 Harrison to that, because they are We're gonna have to 1:04:37.360 --> 1:04:39.480 push the pocket, You're gonna have to stop the want run. 1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:42.080 You know, winning on first and second downs critical playing 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:44.360 defense in this league. Trying to create those long situation 1:04:44.440 --> 1:04:49.000 yard of situations. I would have said before this past week, 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:51.640 when injuries propped up, they were a strength of the team. 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:53.880 And now you look at. 1:04:53.760 --> 1:04:56.720 The unknown of the Von Hamilton, we have no idea 1:04:56.760 --> 1:04:59.800 what the back is. You get into a little bit 1:04:59.800 --> 1:05:02.160 of a patterned with Photocosi because it's not forget he 1:05:02.200 --> 1:05:05.160 had the cap injury last year and missed time. It 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:08.240 really wasn't himself all year because he couldn't really push 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:12.360 off with that with that with the cap injury, so 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:15.280 both are very concerned. To be JP, do you bring 1:05:15.360 --> 1:05:17.680 someone in? I think you got to kick the tires 1:05:17.680 --> 1:05:18.080 for sure. 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:21.640 I would. I would definitely look for somebody. I would 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:23.640 look for a big body and then Keem Hicks, I'd 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:25.600 bring him in and look at him. If he's too heavy, 1:05:25.600 --> 1:05:28.040 he send him home. If he if he's in shape 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:31.160 and he's willing to play, sign him to a deal. 1:05:31.680 --> 1:05:33.840 I just think you got to be prepared as if 1:05:33.840 --> 1:05:37.240 those two guys aren't going to be there. I mean 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:39.800 they probably will be. You hope they will be, but 1:05:39.880 --> 1:05:42.720 you have to prepare for it. And if they open 1:05:42.800 --> 1:05:45.600 the season with those two guys not in the lineup, 1:05:46.960 --> 1:05:49.240 against the Colts, so you know when Jonathan Taylor is 1:05:49.280 --> 1:05:51.360 back there, and he'll be back there. They want to 1:05:51.440 --> 1:05:53.120 run the ball, and so you got to have big 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.200 bodies up there, and I don't right now, I don't 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:56.880 think that they could get by with what they have 1:05:57.000 --> 1:05:59.800 and be comfortable with that. So I would explore a 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:00.480 big body. 1:06:01.560 --> 1:06:03.960 It's a lot of money in those big three guys 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:06.160 up front, by the way, Fantacostia in year two of 1:06:06.200 --> 1:06:09.680 a three year thirty million dollar contract, Hamilton year one 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:12.120 of a three year, three thirty four and a half 1:06:12.160 --> 1:06:15.920 million dollar contract, Roy Robertson Harris year two of a 1:06:15.960 --> 1:06:19.080 three year twenty one million dollar contract. So they've they 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:20.280 never spent some money. 1:06:20.080 --> 1:06:23.760 There if you think about them, they're not really high 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:28.280 paid today's NFL now, having three guys at that, we're 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:30.440 all at that kind of called mid level. 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.840 Yeah, you've definitely invested money in that. I'm not I'm 1:06:33.880 --> 1:06:37.240 not saying you're wrong about your overall investment, but. 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:39.280 I mean you you think of like the top end 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:41.720 guys or the top five, they're all getting worth of 1:06:41.800 --> 1:06:48.080 twenty even nowadays, and so I think your point is 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:53.960 right about overall investment. Hell and Garon Donald makes more 1:06:54.000 --> 1:06:54.960 than all of them combined. 1:06:55.920 --> 1:06:58.640 But it's a different, different level, right, I mean you do. 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:03.640 Yeah, but Hamilton, I mean, Hamilton's tied for twenty second 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:05.480 highest paid defensive lineman. 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:08.080 That's my point. Pete not high paid. 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:11.640 No, Photocosi's twenty six and. 1:07:11.880 --> 1:07:14.080 Robern and Harrison, who might be the by the way, 1:07:14.320 --> 1:07:15.760 why might be the best of all of them, And 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:16.880 he's the last least paid. 1:07:17.560 --> 1:07:20.760 He's at a great camp. He has been dominant physically. 1:07:21.040 --> 1:07:23.000 And he was really good at the beginning of last year, 1:07:23.680 --> 1:07:25.640 tailed off in the middle and played really well down 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:28.800 the stretch. So yeah, but you're right in the grand 1:07:28.880 --> 1:07:30.320 scheme of things. I mean, if you look at it, 1:07:30.360 --> 1:07:33.320 Aaron Donald makes thirty one million dollars a year. 1:07:34.000 --> 1:07:35.840 He makes more than all of them put together. 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:40.120 It's probably not enough. I mean, you can pay it more, right. 1:07:41.360 --> 1:07:44.280 But again, you can go get a big body guy 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:47.120 and try and get it. That's what I would do, Tony. 1:07:47.160 --> 1:07:49.440 You know, there's always those guys hanging around that ready 1:07:49.440 --> 1:07:52.240 to come in, and they can play short spurts, they 1:07:52.240 --> 1:07:53.959 can't play long periods of time. 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:56.880 Oh yeah, sure, I don't disagree with you. I mean 1:07:56.880 --> 1:07:59.439 I have no idea what a keen ticks. A keen 1:07:59.520 --> 1:08:02.560 hicks is mental physical. 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:04.360 Like if you want to play, is he healthy? Is 1:08:04.400 --> 1:08:05.400 he a shape? I mean? 1:08:05.480 --> 1:08:07.920 And then I'm sure there's other guys too. I don't 1:08:07.960 --> 1:08:11.080 think you make that decision, Pete. Right now, let's see 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:15.280 where POTACOSTI. I think they're confident will be ready. 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:18.479 I think the unknown, And it's hard for us to 1:08:18.479 --> 1:08:21.600 even speculate. We don't know what Devon Hamilton's dealing. 1:08:21.280 --> 1:08:25.600 With outside of general back. It's non football related and 1:08:25.640 --> 1:08:26.599 I don't know what that means. 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:30.519 And I don't think they really know the full extent yet. 1:08:30.560 --> 1:08:32.160 You know, they're just kind of waiting to see how 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:32.960 this thing goes. 1:08:33.680 --> 1:08:38.000 So JP can't be you gotta be snooping around there, 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:40.600 kind of getting the insights. 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.759 So what I need to do? Go snoop around? Yeah? 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:44.599 I don't think so. 1:08:45.680 --> 1:08:47.719 Yeah, that's that would be good for any of us. 1:08:48.400 --> 1:08:49.080 Know where I mean? 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:53.880 Well, because even if we knew JP, we couldn't say anything, right. 1:08:53.840 --> 1:08:55.839 Yeah, why what's the point? 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:56.880 All right? 1:08:57.120 --> 1:08:59.920 That's keeping it real presented? I would bridge by Robert 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:03.800 open Up A winner today Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine 1:09:03.800 --> 1:09:07.240 by Robert Mondavi to be nice to have a box 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:08.160 of that for week one. 1:09:09.520 --> 1:09:11.360 Did you get your Yeah, I just got mine. 1:09:11.360 --> 1:09:15.200 The other day I've given up. Hey, Jay, do we 1:09:15.200 --> 1:09:17.360 have time I got. I want to talk about Roy 1:09:17.400 --> 1:09:17.880 a little bit. 1:09:18.120 --> 1:09:20.559 Yeah, I did plenty of We talk so much about 1:09:20.680 --> 1:09:22.360 the great I just don't want to have to put 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.160 a break. Just tell me to shut up, and we do. 1:09:26.000 --> 1:09:29.599 Devaugh has had a great camp. You know, Potocosi, when 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:32.120 he's healthy, I think is a very good player. I 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:36.320 think we are under selling Roy Robertson Harris and it's 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:38.719 your point, Pete. He kind of tailed off in the middle. 1:09:39.280 --> 1:09:42.840 But when he's good, he I mean, he's one of 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:46.400 the most powerful human beings on this team, and he 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.559 is so physical and he just overwhelms guys at times, 1:09:50.360 --> 1:09:53.240 and I boy, if he could put it together a 1:09:53.400 --> 1:09:56.200 seventeen game season where he is at that planet, that 1:09:56.240 --> 1:10:00.920 consistent level, he's an amazing he's he helps him a lot, 1:10:01.080 --> 1:10:06.800 and he'll help Josh Allen and Draymond Walker because of 1:10:06.880 --> 1:10:09.040 the pushing of the pocket and there's crew. He does 1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:12.160 such a good job with that that it'll give those 1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:14.759 other guys more sack opportunities because the quarterback can't step. 1:10:14.600 --> 1:10:18.120 Up and those guys are going to need better sack opportunity. 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:19.759 I mean, this is a big year for those guys. 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:23.599 Let's be real for both of them. For both we don't. 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:26.960 Talk an It's bigger for Josh only because it's a 1:10:27.000 --> 1:10:27.959 contract year. 1:10:27.960 --> 1:10:32.080 But it's also a walker It's it's. 1:10:31.960 --> 1:10:34.400 It's important for walking around. What's the narrative going to 1:10:34.439 --> 1:10:35.679 be around as player? 1:10:36.040 --> 1:10:40.160 Correct? But but Josh Allen from a money standpoint, if 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:42.360 he goes out and gets thirteen fourteen sacks, they got 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:43.919 to they gotta keep them. 1:10:44.200 --> 1:10:47.000 Well, I mean it's it's from an overall career standpoint. 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:49.400 I know Josh wants to be here. He loves Jacksonville, 1:10:49.400 --> 1:10:51.760 he loves the organization, he loves the fan base. You know, 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:56.000 his family's here. And I mean personally, I root the 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:58.240 root for the guy because I love everything about who 1:10:58.240 --> 1:11:00.519 he is as an individual. But at the end of 1:11:00.560 --> 1:11:02.280 the day, it comes down to the business and if 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:04.160 you want to be here, you gotta go put up 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:05.439 double digit sack numbers. 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:08.320 If he has eight sacks as he come back next year, I. 1:11:08.280 --> 1:11:11.760 Don't I don't think so, no, unless unless he wants 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:16.519 to sell for because if he gets eight zacks. Somebody 1:11:16.560 --> 1:11:19.759 will pay him a bunch of money, right and Freeze. 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:22.960 They won't Jack, the Jags won't because it won't be 1:11:22.960 --> 1:11:23.240 able to. 1:11:23.320 --> 1:11:25.240 I mean, everyone has to keep this in mind. 1:11:25.720 --> 1:11:28.080 Trevor Lawrence does what we all believe he's gonna do 1:11:28.120 --> 1:11:29.800 and what he's capable of doing, and who he is 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:32.000 as a player. I mean, this is not just potential. 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:35.439 This is just like how good he is. They're gonna 1:11:35.439 --> 1:11:37.400 have to pay him fifty five to sixty million dollars 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:40.800 a year next year, correct, And so you gotta make it. 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:45.360 And if he does that, m because you gotta, you gotta. 1:11:45.640 --> 1:11:47.720 You gotta assume that if he's having that kind of year, 1:11:47.720 --> 1:11:48.840 then Ridley's having that Gundy. 1:11:49.040 --> 1:11:51.160 Right, Well, you can pay you can pay both of 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:52.880 them be But then you got to make decisions with 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:53.960 Kirk and other guys. 1:11:55.680 --> 1:11:57.400 Oh I already did that for next year, because you 1:11:57.400 --> 1:11:59.479 can make it, right, if you're paying Lawrence, you can 1:11:59.520 --> 1:12:01.320 make it where the big money is a few years 1:12:01.360 --> 1:12:02.479 down the line, right. 1:12:02.880 --> 1:12:05.559 Yeah, you can all get creative with it. If you 1:12:05.600 --> 1:12:08.759 want to make it work. Can make it work. But again, 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:11.559 for Josh Allen, if he has eight sacks, probably not 1:12:11.600 --> 1:12:14.559 coming back if he has thirteen sacks, probably doing everything 1:12:14.600 --> 1:12:16.880 you can to get him back. So it doesn't sound 1:12:17.040 --> 1:12:19.879 like much, but five sacks going from eight to thirteen 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.000 is a significant number for a guy like him. 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:25.400 Well, here's the other thing you got to think about it. 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:28.479 If Lawrence goes off, which means Ridley probably goes off, 1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:31.600 and Josh Allen goes off, now you start getting I 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:35.040 don't care how creative you are, your accounting principles and 1:12:35.080 --> 1:12:37.160 how you move things around, it still gets. 1:12:36.960 --> 1:12:39.520 Tight paying three guys. 1:12:39.880 --> 1:12:41.880 Now, the good news is we have an owner who 1:12:41.880 --> 1:12:43.799 has plenty of cash, so it's not a cash issue 1:12:43.800 --> 1:12:45.479 as far as signing bonuses and stuff like. 1:12:45.400 --> 1:12:47.920 That, where it's for other teams with cash. 1:12:48.080 --> 1:12:50.200 Yeah, it's been an issue for some of the other 1:12:50.280 --> 1:12:52.439 owners as far as having the cash to pay guys. 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:54.400 You know, Shot has proven. 1:12:54.680 --> 1:12:56.400 I mean just look at everything he's done since he's 1:12:56.439 --> 1:12:59.840 been here, whether it's paying players or building facilities and hotels. 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:02.160 I mean, he can afford it, and he wants to 1:13:02.160 --> 1:13:06.160 be great. But at some point the CBA and the 1:13:06.160 --> 1:13:09.280 cap comes into play. And I'm not an expert like 1:13:09.360 --> 1:13:11.720 the guys that are in the building that think about 1:13:11.760 --> 1:13:15.639 this all day. Long, But can you get three franchise players? 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:19.320 You know, pass Rusher one of the highest paid positions. 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:24.080 Receiver has eclipsed a lot of other positions on a roster. 1:13:24.160 --> 1:13:26.040 Now as far as being high paid, that wasn't always 1:13:26.040 --> 1:13:28.360 the case. And your quarterback, who is the guy who 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:30.840 gets all the money? Can you go pay those three 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:33.760 guys in one year and make it work with the cap? 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:38.800 And what are the casualties that happened? Now here's the thing. 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:43.160 If we are talking about that next year going in, 1:13:43.800 --> 1:13:46.840 we're probably talking about it after we were in Vegas for. 1:13:46.800 --> 1:13:47.840 The week at Super Bowl. 1:13:48.040 --> 1:13:49.880 Correct, you're talking about a team that went deep at 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:50.519 least into. 1:13:50.400 --> 1:13:52.280 The postseason or deep or yeah. 1:13:53.200 --> 1:13:56.719 Well, because if Josh Allen is thirteen, that means Trayvon 1:13:56.800 --> 1:13:58.280 Walker is going to have twelve because you already told 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.280 the world they're going to have twenty five the game there. 1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:01.120 That adds up. 1:14:01.160 --> 1:14:03.400 I do believe the official I think the official statement 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:04.720 was twenty three to twenty five. 1:14:05.200 --> 1:14:07.160 Oh you amended it from what I heard? 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:08.479 No, No, I did not. 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:10.400 It was on the same show It's not my fault 1:14:10.479 --> 1:14:13.360 at ten ten and Franngie and Prosser and Hicken and 1:14:13.400 --> 1:14:16.040 all the other guys over there, edit me and don't 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:16.799 tell the truth. 1:14:17.520 --> 1:14:19.879 There might be a lossuit coming news. 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:23.160 Is that what you're saying, You're gonna suit you suit him? 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:27.479 Now, that's great. I might Okay, so my chance to 1:14:27.600 --> 1:14:28.400 mend amend it. 1:14:28.439 --> 1:14:30.840 Why don't you call him out on their air right 1:14:30.880 --> 1:14:32.679 now to the I might. 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:34.559 Just I might just see Franzi so we make them 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:36.719 booth more interesting during the regular season. 1:14:37.439 --> 1:14:42.400 You whole season between you and Francie. Okay, So okay, 1:14:42.600 --> 1:14:44.160 amended that. How many are they gonna have? 1:14:44.760 --> 1:14:46.960 Twenty three, twenty five? I'm not gonna change it. That's 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:47.439 what I said. 1:14:48.680 --> 1:14:51.240 Ah, that's a high. That's a big number, Tony. Have 1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:54.320 the Jaguars. Has Jacksonville ever had two guys that combined 1:14:54.400 --> 1:14:55.960 for twenty three sacks in a season? 1:14:56.880 --> 1:14:57.160 Yeah? 1:14:59.320 --> 1:15:03.679 The the year Klaas had sixteen or whatever he had. 1:15:04.080 --> 1:15:06.519 And then got back and had nine or ten. 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:08.480 Yeah. 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.200 Have they ever had two edge players combined from twenty 1:15:11.240 --> 1:15:12.160 three to twenty five? 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:14.000 The answer is no. 1:15:14.000 --> 1:15:19.200 No, you're you're really really optimistic about those two. 1:15:21.280 --> 1:15:23.439 I'll be honest, Bee, there's a part of me that 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:25.960 wants it to happen. So it's I'm being influenced out of. 1:15:25.920 --> 1:15:29.040 The biases towards rooting for them and wanting to believe 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:29.479 I'm right. 1:15:29.760 --> 1:15:33.040 But I agree with you, it's gonna if. 1:15:32.920 --> 1:15:37.679 I was, if someone, if someone, you know, I would 1:15:37.680 --> 1:15:40.080 not be surprised if everyone in the country bedded on 1:15:40.160 --> 1:15:43.479 the under of the number I gave, and I could. 1:15:43.520 --> 1:15:44.920 It would be hard to argue because I don't have 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.320 a lot of empirical proof, especially after camp in the 1:15:47.360 --> 1:15:49.880 early preseason that says that's gonna happen. 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:55.080 Are you worried about two Russia the past right now? 1:15:55.280 --> 1:15:55.920 After camp? 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:58.599 You are? I was very worried. 1:15:58.640 --> 1:16:00.320 And then I watched him up into the right and 1:16:00.360 --> 1:16:03.439 I thought Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker took it to 1:16:03.439 --> 1:16:04.920 Panay Sewell and Taylor Becker. 1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:05.639 I did too. 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:09.160 I was like, after what I saw. 1:16:09.040 --> 1:16:12.960 Walker, Little Anton, Harrison, Harrison, due to our rushers, I'm like, 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.880 Sewell and Taylor Becker gonna just beat us up. And 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:21.320 I thought Trayvon and Josh really won the day. And 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.680 I don't want to, I mean, dominating might be a 1:16:23.680 --> 1:16:25.519 little bit of a stretch, but they had their way 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:28.280 and got pressure of one of They won in the 1:16:28.320 --> 1:16:30.639 one on one drills they had, they had really good 1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:33.000 pressure on golf, they squeezed the pocket, they would have 1:16:33.000 --> 1:16:34.240 got a couple of sacks. 1:16:34.640 --> 1:16:37.400 And Sewell is a big time tackle too. He's a 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:40.840 good player. You know, he is a pretty good player 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:44.559 KG veteran. Yeah, that's not that's a good sign. That's 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:46.400 a really good sign. And by the way, this week 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:52.000 the Miami won't have Armstead and the right tackle. Your 1:16:52.040 --> 1:16:55.320 former USC guy has had some moments of real problems. 1:16:55.479 --> 1:16:58.000 He was better the other day though, and I think 1:16:58.200 --> 1:17:00.559 that could be an opportunity for them to show pressure 1:17:00.800 --> 1:17:02.479 and get after the quarterback a little bit. 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:05.840 All right, guys, let's come back in a moment. Fanatics 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:13.360 fan Questions Plenty submitted on X Today It's Jaguars Happy 1:17:13.400 --> 1:17:15.599 Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. 1:17:24.000 --> 1:17:26.840 I thought Walker did a nice job at left guard. 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:29.240 He looked comfortable in there. You know, he's a big body. 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:31.519 He moved well. We wanted to see him, so we 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:33.360 set up a couple of runs where he could pull 1:17:33.640 --> 1:17:35.400 just a little bit, and so we wanted to see that. 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:39.200 And you know, loved his physicality in there. You know, 1:17:39.320 --> 1:17:43.439 Cam probably not his best game, you know, I felt 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:44.800 like he was on the ground a little bit too 1:17:44.880 --> 1:17:46.880 much and got beat a little bit. For somebody at 1:17:46.920 --> 1:17:49.439 his caliber, he should, you know, he should play better. 1:17:49.520 --> 1:17:50.080 He knows that. 1:17:50.240 --> 1:17:53.240 He understands that the guys come in today and get 1:17:53.280 --> 1:17:55.040 a chance to watch the tape with the coaches and 1:17:55.360 --> 1:17:57.880 make those corrections. But it was good to see both 1:17:57.920 --> 1:18:01.800 of those guys together though, and see the communication, the 1:18:01.880 --> 1:18:06.000 dialogue that those two had during the game, and you know, 1:18:06.080 --> 1:18:08.519 hopefully that sets us up for things to come. 1:18:08.360 --> 1:18:11.439 Here in the near future. That's the head coach, of course, 1:18:11.520 --> 1:18:16.280 Doug Peterson. He spoke with the media this morning on 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:20.960 Zoom Welcome Back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister 1:18:21.200 --> 1:18:26.240 Chubby's Wings, JP Shadwick with Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli. 1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:30.599 It's time now for the Fanatics fan questions. Jaguars fans 1:18:30.640 --> 1:18:34.479 gear up at fanatics dot com with all latest jag styles. 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:38.479 Shop now and get today's special offer. Fanatics dot Com 1:18:38.520 --> 1:18:44.960 officially licensed everything we put out the cat Signal earlier today. 1:18:45.320 --> 1:18:49.000 Here are the best posts on X that we've come 1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:54.240 up with. Question one at treil Will ninety two, Gregory 1:18:54.360 --> 1:18:56.680 Junior deserves to get some run with the ones at 1:18:56.720 --> 1:18:58.640 Nickel cornerback. Agree. 1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:02.920 I mean I think he's they've tried him. 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:05.439 I mean, he's got an opportunities, and I think right now, 1:19:05.520 --> 1:19:07.240 Trey's held them off at this point. 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:12.120 They're just comfortable with Trey. I think that's that's part 1:19:12.120 --> 1:19:13.720 of it. You know what you get with them. You 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:15.320 don't know what you're gonna get with a younger guy. 1:19:15.320 --> 1:19:16.840 So I think they're more comfortable with Trey. 1:19:18.080 --> 1:19:18.760 I'd agree with you. 1:19:18.840 --> 1:19:22.000 He's been part of three takeaways, one of those unspecial teams. 1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:24.519 That helps, right, But like we've talked about before, it's 1:19:24.680 --> 1:19:26.840 more you got to be able to cover, right. 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:31.679 Didn't he recover that fumble on special teams and nothing 1:19:31.640 --> 1:19:34.880 when he recovers? Yes, yeah, that doesn't nothing for me. 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.439 I'd rather see a guy cover. I'd rather see a 1:19:37.439 --> 1:19:39.400 guy cover a guy, a man and man across the field, 1:19:39.400 --> 1:19:41.160 which Trey Herndon doesn't do very well. 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:43.960 I don't think he's gonna play a lot of man 1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:44.759 this year, Pete. 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:50.439 No, but you gotta admit when he gets caught in 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.400 those man in man situations, he has problems with it. 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:54.840 Yeah, that's why I don't think they're gonna play much 1:19:54.840 --> 1:19:57.000 because I think Ultimately, Trey's gonna be your starting corner 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:59.840 when you roll out against the Colts on opening the day. 1:20:00.200 --> 1:20:03.599 If they if you played Antonio Johnson at that nickel, 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:04.960 I don't think you could play a ton of man 1:20:05.000 --> 1:20:08.519 the man with him right away either. If he got 1:20:08.560 --> 1:20:11.040 matched up with a receiver, that'd be a problem. 1:20:11.479 --> 1:20:13.519 He can roll out, though, Pete he I mean, I 1:20:13.560 --> 1:20:17.679 agree with his a real shifty change direction, quick guy. 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:19.600 That might be a little bit of a concern. But 1:20:19.680 --> 1:20:24.080 he can run. He can move now. But he's a rookie, 1:20:24.240 --> 1:20:26.400 see it. So I'm with you. I agree with you. 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:32.080 Next question at Samuel ab Duval, can you explain the 1:20:32.080 --> 1:20:35.240 new NFL rule concerning keeping three quarterbacks on the roster? 1:20:35.320 --> 1:20:37.920 Are we in jeopardy of losing Rourke if designated the 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:43.639 third quarterback going into the season. So the basic rule is, 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:48.000 the teams who are carrying two quarterbacks on their active 1:20:48.040 --> 1:20:51.360 roster on game day may carry a third emergency quarterback 1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:55.080 who does not count against the team's game day roster. 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:58.000 So basically, you can have him up with no penalty 1:20:58.040 --> 1:20:59.800 on game day he is part of the fifty three. 1:21:00.280 --> 1:21:02.720 The emergency quarterback will not be allowed into the game 1:21:02.800 --> 1:21:06.559 unless the two active quarterbacks are injured or disqualified from 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.160 the game, and that emergency quarterback must be removed from 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:13.200 the game if either quarterback is medically cleared to return 1:21:13.280 --> 1:21:16.639 to play. So there you go, but you. 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:19.360 Have to keep him on the roster. And me and 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:21.320 Tony don't think he's going to be on the roster. 1:21:21.360 --> 1:21:23.400 He'll be on the practice squad, right. 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:24.000 I agree? 1:21:25.280 --> 1:21:28.280 Yeah, I mean the simple by JP explained, it perfectly 1:21:29.200 --> 1:21:32.000 impacts the fifty three man roster. If the counter towards 1:21:32.000 --> 1:21:36.200 that does not count against the active game day roster, 1:21:36.280 --> 1:21:37.520 you can have an extra player. 1:21:37.280 --> 1:21:38.040 If it's a quarterback. 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:40.400 It's the forty nine ers rule in the playoff game. 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:43.000 That's why I think that's right, exactly right. 1:21:43.439 --> 1:21:47.240 But if it comes down to that, I mean, in 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:50.240 most instances, your toast anyway, right, well. 1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:52.120 Your toast with JP with they don't want to happen 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:54.400 is what happened against the forty nine ers, where you 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:57.960 have two quarterbacks hurt and you literally can't even function 1:21:58.040 --> 1:21:59.840 as an offense because you have no one back there. 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:04.080 Yeah, or like when Kendall Hinton had to play for 1:22:04.120 --> 1:22:05.160 the Broncos back. 1:22:04.960 --> 1:22:05.400 In the day. 1:22:06.240 --> 1:22:09.080 You don't want any of that. Tom Maddy played quarterback 1:22:09.120 --> 1:22:10.840 for the Colt Smith's way back in the day, and 1:22:10.840 --> 1:22:11.719 he had to have the plays. 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:14.160 He was the first one. He was the first one 1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:16.600 that had the plays on his wrist. That wristband is 1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:18.120 in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 1:22:18.640 --> 1:22:20.160 Yeah, he didn't know what he didn't know any of 1:22:20.160 --> 1:22:24.400 the plays here. This is a legitimate question why we're 1:22:24.400 --> 1:22:26.759 talking about the back of court. Has Nathan Rourke played 1:22:26.800 --> 1:22:27.759 better than Bether? 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:32.760 Yes, I mean just as far as on the field. 1:22:32.840 --> 1:22:35.360 Right if okay, so Tony, if it didn't have anything 1:22:35.400 --> 1:22:37.800 to do with the guy being in the room and 1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:40.839 being a veteran and can handle and help the quarterback, 1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:42.599 would you keep Rourke or would you keep Bether? 1:22:43.360 --> 1:22:46.120 I keep Beth because he has a bigger sample size. 1:22:46.160 --> 1:22:49.200 Work has only done he's done at the Canadian level. 1:22:49.640 --> 1:22:52.479 He was good in the Football League man a ton 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:53.120 of his games. 1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:57.760 He's still a very young player. Beth is a known commodity. 1:22:58.040 --> 1:23:00.040 You're counting on that guy only to come in and 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:04.280 everything hit the fan, And so I probably would not. 1:23:04.400 --> 1:23:07.160 And here's what we don't know. Just watching the tape, 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:08.840 I would say Work has. 1:23:08.760 --> 1:23:10.519 Played better, But I don't know if he's going through 1:23:10.520 --> 1:23:13.000 the right read. How much of the offense does he command, 1:23:13.160 --> 1:23:16.120 like the what's the mental acuity that he has compared 1:23:16.160 --> 1:23:19.200 to Beth third of comprehending stuff, you know, making those 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:20.120 right reads. 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:22.680 Reading coverages and all that. You and I don't know that. 1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:23.920 It's hard for us to make that. 1:23:24.120 --> 1:23:29.120 But I hasn't played that well, I mean, he hasn't 1:23:29.120 --> 1:23:31.200 played bad and fine. 1:23:31.800 --> 1:23:35.760 Average, which is probably I would I keep Would I 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:37.559 keep Rourke though? But I'd keep them on the practice 1:23:37.560 --> 1:23:38.439 squad for sure? 1:23:38.840 --> 1:23:41.519 Well, that's that's simple. That's a dumb answer. Would you 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:42.080 keep this? Okay? 1:23:42.080 --> 1:23:46.200 Would you keep three? No, particularly with the offensive line 1:23:46.200 --> 1:23:47.800 of defensive line injuries, there's no way. 1:23:48.400 --> 1:23:54.120 All right, I've got a wild question is and this 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:57.440 is going to be a dumb one. So get ready 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.639 on the practice just his development? Would he be better 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:06.200 on the practice squad or playing back in the CFL 1:24:06.360 --> 1:24:07.080 or another league? 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:10.320 Again, no practice squad. 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:14.400 How many true reps will he get at quarterback on 1:24:14.479 --> 1:24:15.400 a practice. 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:17.519 Well, he'll get he'll get scout team raps, He'll run 1:24:17.560 --> 1:24:21.360 scout team, be in, get in, get on a franchise, 1:24:21.439 --> 1:24:22.080 get in as. 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:24.120 System, getting the pipeline, and maybe you. 1:24:24.120 --> 1:24:25.960 Move the pipeline, and he has to have a long 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:28.920 view because if you can, if he makes practice squad 1:24:28.960 --> 1:24:32.320 does a good job this year going into next year, 1:24:32.320 --> 1:24:34.200 then it's a real competition for the backup. 1:24:35.160 --> 1:24:38.320 Well, he looks tiny. How big is he listed at? 1:24:38.960 --> 1:24:41.799 He has listed at six one, two ten. I believe 1:24:41.920 --> 1:24:42.120 he's not. 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:48.280 Yeah, he can rip it though, he can rip the ball, and. 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:50.840 He's a gutty guy. He's one of those guys. He 1:24:51.000 --> 1:24:54.919 just finds a way to buy time and he's interesting. 1:24:54.960 --> 1:25:02.240 So yeah, I don't is he Is he as sharp? 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:05.360 I mean you're talking about making the right reads and 1:25:05.360 --> 1:25:08.240 go to progressions. That's where yeah, ruck Perty is very 1:25:08.240 --> 1:25:08.600 good at that. 1:25:09.320 --> 1:25:13.120 All right, Next question at ste Winters. With the overall 1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:15.720 depth performing well in the first two preseason games. On 1:25:15.760 --> 1:25:19.720 the offensive defense, who do you see contributing most in 1:25:19.800 --> 1:25:24.560 a rotation basis on the interior D line and defensive backfield. 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:27.760 So D line and defensive backs. 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.960 Right, I mean, I think it's and Lacy on the 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:36.080 defense the interior on the interior D line, you want 1:25:36.120 --> 1:25:38.120 to include pass rushers, you're gonna I mean, I think 1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:40.799 Duance move when he gets back second half of the year. 1:25:41.360 --> 1:25:43.040 You're gonna have to play five. You're gonna have to 1:25:43.040 --> 1:25:46.480 play eight games, seven games with without him, So who's. 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:49.040 The second thing you're gonna have to get something out of? 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:50.760 Chase On I think he ends up being your third 1:25:50.800 --> 1:25:51.360 pass rusher. 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:54.439 And then what was the other part of that question 1:25:54.479 --> 1:25:56.200 was the secondary secondary? 1:25:57.080 --> 1:26:00.040 I have no idea rotation. 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:04.519 When he's healthy Johnson right, when he's healthy, But. 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:06.240 He's not healthy, I'm saying it's to be I mean, 1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:10.519 I I think, how bad is his injury to hammy? 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:12.400 Yeah, but it's a tweak or pull. 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:15.200 I mean, you know, I've heard it's going to be 1:26:15.479 --> 1:26:18.479 an exten extensive amount of time, so it's a bad handy. 1:26:18.600 --> 1:26:19.920 They didn't say bad handy, but. 1:26:19.880 --> 1:26:22.280 Based on the time frame they gave, it sounds like 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:23.360 it's something okay. 1:26:23.479 --> 1:26:26.439 So then there's there's no youth in that secondary unless 1:26:26.640 --> 1:26:29.040 they decide to go in another direction at the nickel corner. 1:26:30.200 --> 1:26:33.320 Yep, I think it's I think it's just I think 1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:35.519 it's the same starting five you had last year when 1:26:35.520 --> 1:26:36.280 you were done. 1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:36.679 With the season. 1:26:37.280 --> 1:26:40.800 I think Braswell is an interesting player, though I think 1:26:40.840 --> 1:26:43.400 he gets better as as it gets as he keeps 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.280 playing more. The question with him is can he run 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:46.880 well enough? 1:26:49.640 --> 1:26:52.760 Well, it's the same question you have with Trey Herdon. Well, 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:55.000 actually know the answer to that. You can't put man. 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:56.360 He can't play man. 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:02.479 Next question at unders p W three Underscore. If someone 1:27:02.880 --> 1:27:05.639 told you only one person from this draft class would 1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:08.800 be an elite Pro Bowl player in years to come, 1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:13.200 who are you choosing and why? 1:27:16.080 --> 1:27:16.839 Anton Harrison? 1:27:17.320 --> 1:27:23.599 Harrison, Oh that's easy, Tony, Yeah, it's a no brainer. 1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:24.120 I was trying. 1:27:24.160 --> 1:27:26.240 I was going down the roster, but I think Anton 1:27:26.280 --> 1:27:27.559 Harrison will be a pro bowler. 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:30.679 Okay, let me while we're talking about the rookie clusters. 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:33.439 We haven't got there real quick. Tank Bixby is a 1:27:33.479 --> 1:27:36.920 good player. He needs to quick bouncing everything though, and 1:27:37.040 --> 1:27:40.479 just run sometimes. And that was a criticism of it all. 1:27:40.680 --> 1:27:43.599 That was a criticism of him at Auburn too. He's 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:47.160 a physical runner. Just go go, Pete. 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:49.360 I think he'll learn the hard you know, right now, 1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:53.840 he's getting outside, it's working and so until you know. 1:27:53.880 --> 1:27:55.920 But now when you get into the regular season, when 1:27:55.960 --> 1:27:58.759 you're playing top line guys with more speed on the field, 1:27:58.760 --> 1:28:01.280 I think that'll be more difficult for new and I 1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:01.920 think he'll learn. 1:28:02.439 --> 1:28:04.360 But you didn't you watch the tape of the game. 1:28:04.400 --> 1:28:06.439 I'm sure and you saw the game. There were moments 1:28:06.439 --> 1:28:08.800 where he had he had a running lane right in 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:10.920 front of him and he decided to bounce. Now, you're right. 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:12.960 He got outside and made a couple of plays, but 1:28:13.000 --> 1:28:15.160 then on one of those bounces out he got tackled 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:18.200 for no gain. And I think he's just got to 1:28:18.240 --> 1:28:20.760 go because he's a physical runner. Just put your head 1:28:20.800 --> 1:28:22.759 down and go, put your goat between tackles. 1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:24.840 And that's what they like about him. It's a one 1:28:24.840 --> 1:28:27.800 cut downhill. I think they like you. You'll see a 1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:29.840 lot of inside inside zone with him. 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.160 So yeah, he's gonna have to learn to trust it 1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:35.080 inside because he definitely has the ability. 1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:36.120 He's a good runner. 1:28:36.360 --> 1:28:37.160 He's a good runner. 1:28:39.000 --> 1:28:42.880 One more question, final one at Dua Stan forty two eleven. 1:28:42.960 --> 1:28:45.559 What's holding the Jags front office back from going all 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:48.240 in and trading for an elite edge rusher such as 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:51.360 Khalil Macker Chandler Jones, a guy that would instantly make 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:54.839 us better and potentially move Trayvon Walker to defensive tackle. 1:28:56.000 --> 1:28:58.800 Well, first off, Chandler Jones isn't an elite pass rusher. 1:28:58.800 --> 1:29:00.599 He's a good player. He didn't play that well last 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:02.880 year was hurt and then Khalil Mack. There would the 1:29:02.960 --> 1:29:04.600 Chargers think they're good? Why are they gonna get rid 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:05.200 of Khalil Mack? 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:09.200 And you're not going to do it to your cap, 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:13.200 You're not gonna do it. They because here's what, like 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:16.920 everyone needs to realize this. They believe Traymon Walker is 1:29:16.960 --> 1:29:22.639 it outside Russia. They don't believe that he's a defensive tackle. 1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:25.679 And so until that changes, why would they go trade 1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:30.040 for a player to take time away from Traymon Walker 1:29:30.280 --> 1:29:30.760 and all like that? 1:29:30.880 --> 1:29:32.680 If you did, let's just say for the sake of 1:29:32.680 --> 1:29:35.000 the argument, they did go get Khalil Mack. Where's Travon 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:39.519 Walker play? They kick him inside? They have to, right, 1:29:40.320 --> 1:29:40.679 he has. 1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:44.080 To kick That's I mean, it's it's that's a fun 1:29:44.560 --> 1:29:46.120 thing to talk about on radio. 1:29:45.880 --> 1:29:46.840 But it's not gonna happen. 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.280 But in everybody in Jacksonville was all upset when they 1:29:49.320 --> 1:29:52.639 didn't get justin Houston. They didn't get who's the other one? 1:29:52.640 --> 1:29:55.879 They did Clowney, I mean Clowney in his two sacks. 1:29:55.880 --> 1:29:57.760 He's not an elite edge rusher. 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:01.720 No, but Houston and Clowney would have been different. You're 1:30:01.720 --> 1:30:02.479 getting depth there. 1:30:02.560 --> 1:30:04.240 Those of they would have taken the role of an 1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:06.680 ardent Key. 1:30:06.760 --> 1:30:06.960 Yep. 1:30:07.160 --> 1:30:08.240 Not as good as ard and Key. 1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:11.920 But I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:13.880 that's what they would have got. Those guys with feet. 1:30:14.040 --> 1:30:17.120 But try and they try and kept, they try to 1:30:17.200 --> 1:30:20.519 keep Ardent Key and and he just decided to go 1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:23.320 to the I mean they made an legitimate offered Arden Key, 1:30:23.320 --> 1:30:24.439 they wanted to keep them around. 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:29.040 I don't remember the economics. I'm sure you got more 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:29.920 at Tennessee. 1:30:29.600 --> 1:30:33.640 Though not much more, though I don't think you have it. 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:37.800 Fanatics, fan questions, and if you're a Jags fan who's 1:30:37.840 --> 1:30:40.960 always on the move, We've got the perfect plan for you. 1:30:41.040 --> 1:30:43.799 With the Bundle at the bank, you can purchase tickets 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:46.120 to three or more games starting at just fifty eight 1:30:46.160 --> 1:30:49.000 bucks per game. 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There's still gonna be some some 1:31:18.439 --> 1:31:21.120 opportunities for our young players to play potentially here in 1:31:21.160 --> 1:31:21.840 the second half. 1:31:21.880 --> 1:31:22.839 And and there's. 1:31:22.640 --> 1:31:25.599 Still some ongoing you know, I think some some battles, 1:31:25.680 --> 1:31:28.240 some some competition that that you know, we need to 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:31.040 see these guys in in in you know, real games. 1:31:31.080 --> 1:31:34.600 So h it is beneficial for everybody to practice. It 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:37.559 gives us one more one more week here, you know, 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:40.840 seven eight days, uh to to evaluate this team. 1:31:41.479 --> 1:31:44.559 Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, this morning, in a zoom 1:31:44.600 --> 1:31:47.679 call with the media, welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, final 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:51.639 moments on this Monday afternoon and the band is back together. 1:31:52.320 --> 1:31:52.560 J P. 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:58.960 Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony BISSELLI. It sounded good today, by the. 1:31:58.960 --> 1:32:00.599 Way, Yeah, really good. 1:32:00.720 --> 1:32:03.679 A shout out to Max and the whole team back 1:32:03.720 --> 1:32:06.840 there for working through the technical issues we had last week. 1:32:07.080 --> 1:32:10.120 New studio, a lot of changes going on, and. 1:32:10.080 --> 1:32:14.360 Uh, Max Reaber, you know, the whole team back there 1:32:14.400 --> 1:32:17.040 did a great job, all our engineers of getting us 1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:19.599 up and so thank you very much for the They 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:21.520 put a lot of a lot of hours. 1:32:21.200 --> 1:32:22.960 And a lot of work into it. So good job. 1:32:22.800 --> 1:32:26.679 Guys and JP's in the fancy news studio over there. 1:32:26.880 --> 1:32:30.280 Yeah, it's it's uh, it's nice, it's spacious. Uh, you 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:32.400 guys aren't here though. I mean I got rooms. 1:32:32.479 --> 1:32:34.360 I've been. I've been in that one before. 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:35.000 It's nice. 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:36.519 Yeah, you interviewed me in there. 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.960 I have yes, And Tony was in here. What was 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:41.200 that last week? Two weeks ago? 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:42.800 Tony, Yeah, two weeks ago. 1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:45.160 Yeah. Uh. But at some point we got to get 1:32:45.240 --> 1:32:47.360 us all together in one room. When's that going to happen? 1:32:47.520 --> 1:32:48.479 I don't think that's. 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:50.640 Well, when we do that, we got to go to 1:32:50.680 --> 1:32:51.040 the couch. 1:32:51.160 --> 1:32:54.839 You know what happened. Uh the time that could have happened, 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:56.320 Tony decided to leave early. 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:59.880 Pete. I think that's what happened. Here's when we'll do 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:04.160 together the Monday in Vegas before the Superoo like that? 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:05.960 Oh? I like that one. 1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:09.080 I like that a lot. I like that a lot, 1:33:10.520 --> 1:33:14.040 a whole lot. All right, So preseason Week three starters 1:33:14.040 --> 1:33:17.120 are going a half or so, the Dolphins and the 1:33:17.200 --> 1:33:20.040 Jaguars coming up, and what else do you want to see? 1:33:20.080 --> 1:33:23.280 I mean, what what is a successful preseason Week three? 1:33:23.320 --> 1:33:26.760 Outside of everybody staying healthy? We know that obviously, what 1:33:26.800 --> 1:33:28.680 do you want to see Pete from the starters. 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:32.479 I want to see Cam Robinson play better. 1:33:33.240 --> 1:33:36.439 I want to see I don't think he's starting, Pete. 1:33:36.800 --> 1:33:39.160 Well, he's not starting, but he's gonna play. He's gonna 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:39.840 play what he does. 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:42.000 Why don't you listen to the question, what do. 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:44.160 You didn't ask about the starters? 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:44.880 Yes, the game. 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:49.639 He just asked the game starters, the starters, Pete, idiot? 1:33:49.880 --> 1:33:52.880 Okay, what do I want to see from the starters? Well, 1:33:52.960 --> 1:33:54.439 how do you know he's not starting? He might start 1:33:54.479 --> 1:33:56.599 at left tackle, he might start walker little at left guard. 1:33:58.120 --> 1:33:59.679 Ben Bart was probably getting time. 1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:03.040 This I want to see. I want to see the 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:06.280 pass for us show up in a big way, knock 1:34:06.320 --> 1:34:08.439 the guy down, knock to it down a little bit. 1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:11.360 And don't you want to see how they handle the 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:12.920 speed of those receivers. 1:34:14.120 --> 1:34:16.840 Yeah, so I agree with both those things. On defense, 1:34:17.120 --> 1:34:19.920 I want to see our secondary matchup. The big test 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:21.240 is they got great receivers. 1:34:21.240 --> 1:34:22.160 They have a ton of speed. 1:34:22.920 --> 1:34:27.840 I want to see Trayvon and Josh dominate, like, be 1:34:28.000 --> 1:34:30.559 disruptive and then offensively, I want to see our offense, Hume, 1:34:31.280 --> 1:34:33.720 I want to see them in a rhythm, you know, 1:34:33.880 --> 1:34:37.000 staying on schedule. You know, I'd like to see two 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:38.240 touchdowns in the first half. 1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:42.400 I think the offense. I think the offense has the 1:34:42.400 --> 1:34:45.240 potential to put at least ten points on in their 1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:48.559 first half. Maybe you're right, maybe two touchdowns. When you 1:34:48.560 --> 1:34:49.920 look at that offense, I think they're going to be 1:34:50.000 --> 1:34:51.880 dynamic this year. I really do. I think they're going 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:53.880 to a chance to push for the lead the league 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:56.200 in scoring. That's how good I think they can be. 1:34:57.720 --> 1:35:00.880 H You know, Okay, so this real quick. 1:35:01.760 --> 1:35:07.880 Anton Harrison can be better than Jawan Taylor. Yes or no? Yes, 1:35:08.880 --> 1:35:09.720 I would agree with you. 1:35:10.439 --> 1:35:11.920 He's more athletic than Juwan. 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:17.080 You're correct. So if Walker Little and Anton Harrison are 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:19.519 playing really well, they're just as good as the Chiefs tackles. 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:23.120 Because Smith and Taylor there's they could be as good 1:35:23.120 --> 1:35:25.920 as those two. The problem is the interior of the 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:28.679 Chiefs offensive line is outstanding. 1:35:28.920 --> 1:35:29.400 Very good. 1:35:30.200 --> 1:35:33.920 I mean, they're their center, right guard, and Tony's no 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:35.320 slouch either. 1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:37.439 But their tier three pet are really good. 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:41.960 Yeah, Jacksonville's interior three could be good if they could 1:35:42.000 --> 1:35:43.360 solidify the left guard spot. 1:35:44.240 --> 1:35:48.160 Yeah, I agree, because I agree. 1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:50.559 Fortner takes his game to another level this year. 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:53.800 But he's he as good as what's the kid's name. 1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:55.320 No, he's not as a Creed Humphrey. 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:56.320 No, Creed Humphrey. 1:35:56.320 --> 1:36:00.000 And then Tray Smith on the right tag right guard good, yeah. 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:03.880 Cooney is they just solid, like just every down, ready 1:36:03.920 --> 1:36:05.760 to go. Guy, they're good. 1:36:05.840 --> 1:36:06.960 They're good in the middle of that line. 1:36:06.960 --> 1:36:08.360 That's where they're very good. 1:36:09.760 --> 1:36:12.439 Pete, coming up for the game Saturday, you should no 1:36:13.280 --> 1:36:15.360 the Dolphins. Man, it's your hometown team down there. 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:19.160 And you know what when they say down here, Jacksonville 1:36:19.160 --> 1:36:20.920 is my hometown team. That's what they all say to me. 1:36:21.000 --> 1:36:23.320 I'm the mayor. They give me so much crap I 1:36:23.360 --> 1:36:25.400 make I make a pick just to make a pick, 1:36:25.400 --> 1:36:28.519 and they go, You're just hometown mayor. You know that 1:36:28.600 --> 1:36:30.240 kind of You actually have a graphic where I'm the 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:31.160 mayor of Jacksonville. 1:36:31.240 --> 1:36:33.639 Really can we get that? We got to be able 1:36:33.680 --> 1:36:34.400 to get that right. 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:38.280 So Pete, now I know I feel about the years 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:40.839 are doing the show, A few of you basically questioning 1:36:40.880 --> 1:36:44.360 every pick I make because I'm a Jaguar homer, so you. 1:36:45.040 --> 1:36:48.360 Never believed yours though. That's the difference. I believe mine. 1:36:48.960 --> 1:36:51.320 I believe mine I believe all mine the. 1:36:51.320 --> 1:36:53.599 Year what year were they like four wins and Tony 1:36:53.640 --> 1:36:57.960 said they were gonna win eleven games or something I missed. 1:36:58.000 --> 1:36:59.320 It's not that I didn't believe it. 1:36:59.840 --> 1:37:02.439 You didn't believe it because we talked golf air. You 1:37:02.439 --> 1:37:03.080 didn't believe it. 1:37:03.080 --> 1:37:04.599 You were just that's not true. 1:37:06.840 --> 1:37:10.639 Every lock I make, I believe you haven't made any locks. 1:37:10.880 --> 1:37:13.120 Yeah, we only have one on the books. It's from Pete. 1:37:13.439 --> 1:37:14.679 I'm waiting, waiting. 1:37:15.320 --> 1:37:16.400 I made my lock. 1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:19.400 All the lock opening day. 1:37:19.600 --> 1:37:21.559 It might be, it might be I might bring it early, 1:37:21.880 --> 1:37:23.720 an early double lockout. 1:37:24.920 --> 1:37:28.519 Wow, that's a that's a deep tease. We're a long 1:37:28.560 --> 1:37:32.040 way away from week one. That's Tony Maselli. 1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:33.439 Oh, it's only three weeks away. 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:38.000 Cox Sick And that's Pete Prisco. Thanks for our entire crew, 1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:41.800 of course, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for listening on 1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:44.720 ten ten xcel a m. 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