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Speaker 2: Chechar and welcome in a Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday.
Speaker 2: Preseason Week three is upon us. The Jaguars and the
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins coming up this Saturday at EverBank Stadium. Plenty
Speaker 2: to get to on today's show. The starters will play
Speaker 2: in preseason week number three. Get ready to see them
Speaker 2: for probably a couple of quarters. Some injuries and the
Speaker 2: trenches on both sides of the ball after the trip
Speaker 2: to Detroit. We'll keep it real as we always do
Speaker 2: with Pete and Tony and yes, your final expand questions.
Speaker 2: That's all in the second hour tonight on what should
Speaker 2: be a busy Monday. Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson this morning.
Speaker 2: Some injuries adding up in the trenches as we mentioned
Speaker 2: up in Detroit, but he's not changing his strategy about
Speaker 2: playing the starters this week.
Speaker 3: I can't really worry too much about who gets hurt
Speaker 3: this and that if I do, then then people get hurt, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think you practice and play just
Speaker 3: like you're getting ready for a regular season game. And
Speaker 3: our starters need some time together on the field and
Speaker 3: and you know, so they'll get that opportunity this week,
Speaker 3: and I'll listen, I'll monitor it, I'll be I'll be
Speaker 3: you know, on top of that too, so if if
Speaker 3: I need to pull him out or pull him out.
Speaker 3: But right now it's still still full steam ahead.
Speaker 2: Full steam ahead for the head coach. The full press
Speaker 2: conference from Doug Peterson available now on Jaguars dot Com
Speaker 2: and the Jaguars YouTube channel. Of course, we're on ten
Speaker 2: ten XL, Jaguars dot Common, Jaguars YouTube, and Tony Vasselli
Speaker 2: and Pete Prisco joined me. Now, good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete, Hello,
Speaker 2: what's up?
Speaker 4: Guys? How are you they? This is great today. I
Speaker 4: could see Tony, I could see JP and the way
Speaker 4: we go.
Speaker 2: In high definition and everything. That's great.
Speaker 5: And I can hear you, Pete, unlike last week where
Speaker 5: you said, but I could get every other word.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't even hear you because I got
Speaker 4: booted off by the time you got Well.
Speaker 6: The good news is for at least me.
Speaker 5: The ratings came back and it was two x ratings
Speaker 5: from when you were on.
Speaker 4: To I hear there was a severe plummet as soon
Speaker 4: as you came play.
Speaker 2: Well, all I know is that the first seven minutes
Speaker 2: of the second hour were the highest rated of all time.
Speaker 2: That was just me.
Speaker 6: Pete missed it.
Speaker 5: J P went on a seven minute monologue and I
Speaker 5: thought his head was going to explode if he was
Speaker 5: just talking in circle.
Speaker 4: But you know what, Tony, the way he introduces us
Speaker 4: like on the video, and we're also going to be
Speaker 4: joined by two other guys that come on to the show,
Speaker 4: like I mean, my gosh, we're just happy to be
Speaker 4: on his show today.
Speaker 2: To deliver chopped delivery.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, JP went to management and said and
Speaker 5: he wanted to change the name of the show, JP
Speaker 5: Shaver friends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and that was going to be top
Speaker 2: of the billing. And then you guys and in five
Speaker 2: print Tony and Pete.
Speaker 4: Pretty much that last week, JP, I don't know what
Speaker 4: you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I saw it, so hey, uh plenty to get to.
Speaker 2: Here's a lot of a lot of stuff going on
Speaker 2: with this team. Starters are going this week. In Week three,
Speaker 2: some injuries have popped up coming out of week number two.
Speaker 2: The injury bug here a little bit, so some key
Speaker 2: roster spots up for grabs. So all right, there's a
Speaker 2: lot happening around here right now, Pete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the most concerning thing is Hamilton's back. To me
Speaker 4: that that's I mean, he didn't play. What I couldn't
Speaker 4: figure out is there were reports that he was in
Speaker 4: a boot. Was that true, Tony?
Speaker 5: He was in a boot? I, Pete, that we don't
Speaker 5: fly with the team during preseason, so I never even
Speaker 5: went down to the locker room.
Speaker 6: I read the same thing you did.
Speaker 5: I heard someone brought up the boot to me, I
Speaker 5: had no idea what the injury was, and we hear
Speaker 5: it's back. It's concerning from the standpoint of when did
Speaker 5: he get actually hurt? And it's and JP, keep me
Speaker 5: honest here, But was did Doug say was a non
Speaker 5: football injury?
Speaker 2: That's what the team statement said? Yes, non football?
Speaker 4: So is it horsing around? Is it picking up your
Speaker 4: child and picking up a kid?
Speaker 5: Or it could be it could be a back that
Speaker 5: just sleeping in a hotel bed, sleeping wrong. After two
Speaker 5: days of practice with the Lions. He just got locked
Speaker 5: up and couldn't move.
Speaker 6: I mean, it could be anything.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, there's no reason for us to speculate
Speaker 5: and try to figure it out at.
Speaker 4: Times, speculating this league nowadays because nobody ever tells you anything, well.
Speaker 6: Especially especially during the preseason.
Speaker 5: Pete and you know this, But just to let our
Speaker 5: fans and listeners no is the team is under no
Speaker 5: obligations to give any injury specifics during training camp until
Speaker 5: week one. The first injury report is the first time
Speaker 5: they actually have to tell the whole story of what
Speaker 5: is going on of guys injuries, whether they practice or not,
Speaker 5: in their availability for the game. In the preseason, they
Speaker 5: actually don't say anything. They would not even had to
Speaker 5: report anything on Devon Hamilton. They could have just let
Speaker 5: it ride.
Speaker 4: So and all that does expose the kid to doubts
Speaker 4: and questions and everything else. It's a terrible policy. So
Speaker 4: not just Jacksonville, by the way, it's all over the league.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, this is not a Jacksonville issue.
Speaker 5: This is not a Doug Peterson er Trump Balkey issue.
Speaker 5: This is a league issue. Every team does it pretty
Speaker 5: much the same this time of year.
Speaker 2: So here's the official statement from earlier. Devon Hamilton is
Speaker 2: currently dealing with a non football related medical issue with
Speaker 2: his back. At this time, we do not have a
Speaker 2: timetable on his return. The Metal Cool staff plans to
Speaker 2: keep us informed in his progress and we'll provide updates
Speaker 2: of the appropriate time. And then Doug Peterson earlier today
Speaker 2: said he had some text message back and forth and
Speaker 2: things were progressing well today a little better and whatever
Speaker 2: that means, Okay, we'll see day to day.
Speaker 4: Tony. You had back surgery. I've had back issues. It
Speaker 4: can lock up when you're if you sleep in the
Speaker 4: wrong spot or be it in a hotel bed, it
Speaker 4: can lock up. And he can have those issues. But
Speaker 4: what just the way they handled it was weird to me,
Speaker 4: And I'm you know, you know me, I'm gonna call
Speaker 4: it out if I think it's strange. It was strange.
Speaker 4: There was a report of a boot on a foot,
Speaker 4: which I don't know if that was true or not.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't, whoever reported it was wrong and they
Speaker 4: should apologize for that. But if there's a boot on
Speaker 4: the foot and you have a bad back, I don't
Speaker 4: get it unless and as somebody who suffered with sciatica
Speaker 4: unless and Tony you had it at one point. You
Speaker 4: get if you like your nerve and your leg or
Speaker 4: your you know, your foot. I don't. That's the only
Speaker 4: thing I could think of. But I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm speculating. And the reason I'm speculating
Speaker 4: is because you don't answer the question. Tell him what
Speaker 4: it is, just say.
Speaker 6: It, well, Pete, Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if.
Speaker 5: The boot thing was true, so I'm not gonna be like,
Speaker 5: there's no sense of going down that path.
Speaker 6: All we know is what they told us. It's his back.
Speaker 5: I do think it's a big deal because he's had
Speaker 5: a great camp and he is a very important piece
Speaker 5: of the puzzle up front for this team. So getting
Speaker 5: him healthy. I'm glad it happened now and not you know, week.
Speaker 6: One, and you just don't know if it's if it's
Speaker 6: a disc issue.
Speaker 5: You know, Pete, you brought up I had a little
Speaker 5: at a discuss you bulging disc. Had severe pain down
Speaker 5: the leg at the Hall of Fame last year, and
Speaker 5: right when I got back, had surgery at a dissectomy.
Speaker 6: It was an amazing.
Speaker 5: Surgery from the standpoint of I walked out of surgery
Speaker 5: forty five.
Speaker 6: Minutes after I went in with zero pain.
Speaker 5: And if I was at top shape, top shape, now
Speaker 5: the doctor wouldn't have let me. But I could have
Speaker 5: played that week, I think, So, I mean, uh, maybe
Speaker 5: maybe give me one week.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: The protocols were three or four weeks of low activity
Speaker 5: just to let it heal so it doesn't rerupture. But
Speaker 5: I mean, I would have been a dumbass and tried
Speaker 5: to play.
Speaker 4: Of course, well, and full disclosure here, I was in
Speaker 4: the emergency room in April for a for sciatica down
Speaker 4: my leg and I have a disc problem and I
Speaker 4: instead of having get done, I went through the therapy
Speaker 4: and it's kind of regenerated a little bit. But I
Speaker 4: had probably, I'll be honest with you, I had problems
Speaker 4: with feeling in my leg at times and when I
Speaker 4: first got back, and it's taken a while to get back.
Speaker 4: So if he does have something along those lines, it's
Speaker 4: really concerning and ill. Okay, I'm gonna put it out
Speaker 4: there for both me and Tony as well. One of
Speaker 4: the reasons you have problems with your back is because
Speaker 4: you got the cuchine in the front let's be real.
Speaker 4: Tony had the cuchine until he did his magical diet.
Speaker 4: I had the cuchined until I did my magical diet.
Speaker 4: And so that's one of the things doctors tell you, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you have a belly, it's going to
Speaker 4: be a problem.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to comment on Devon's cachine. Never
Speaker 5: heard cachine Italian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6: Where it comes.
Speaker 2: Well, he's three hundred and thirty five pounds, so there's
Speaker 2: something there he's not He looks.
Speaker 4: Like you know what, he actually not like that better
Speaker 4: shape to me this year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks great. He's had a great camp.
Speaker 5: Like that's why I'm I I get why you're speculating.
Speaker 5: I'm just not going to I'm gonna give him the
Speaker 5: penets of the doubt that it's a freak thing, slept
Speaker 5: on it or whatever who knows it is.
Speaker 4: Because they need him, I'm with you.
Speaker 6: They need they need them, they definitely.
Speaker 2: So that's on top of fully fun of Cossi and
Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday and Detroit goes down. He had a
Speaker 2: boot on the practice field today during the open media
Speaker 2: time on that right foot. So we'll see.
Speaker 5: They think, but jp they think he's gonna be back
Speaker 5: for open week.
Speaker 2: That's the hope.
Speaker 6: Yes, I I actually know what that is.
Speaker 5: I just don't know if it's been disclosed from the team,
Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna say a word.
Speaker 6: But based on what I know, he should be back.
Speaker 5: Opening weekend, and I think that's the plan inside the building,
Speaker 5: he'll be ready.
Speaker 4: Like I saw the Dougs. I read Doug's press conference
Speaker 4: answers today and one of them he said, somebody asked
Speaker 4: them about somebody, and he said, oh, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: his leg. I really haven't looked at it. What what
Speaker 4: are we doing photocost with somebody else?
Speaker 5: He because that's what these coaches do this time of year,
Speaker 5: you know that they don't.
Speaker 4: So and so's got it back, He's got this. We'll
Speaker 4: think he's back in a couple of days. He might
Speaker 4: be back in a week. He might be back in
Speaker 4: two weeks. With it that the uh, the Cooper Hodges
Speaker 4: got hurt, he's out for half the year or whatever.
Speaker 4: Just go down and do what what what do you
Speaker 4: It's the preseason, there's no games that matter. Where's the competitive.
Speaker 6: Edge in it? Pete?
Speaker 5: I agree with you from the stand overall but here's
Speaker 5: the one thing you're missing. If you give too much injury,
Speaker 5: it can have a competitive it's a competitive disadvantages you're
Speaker 5: trying to fill out your roster. Because let's say these
Speaker 5: injuries are worse than the Jaguars are letting.
Speaker 6: On letting us know right now.
Speaker 5: They don't want the league to know that because that
Speaker 5: means they might be active at the end trying to
Speaker 5: capture some guys and make moves to fill those spots
Speaker 5: where these guys are hurt.
Speaker 6: Well, the guys are right.
Speaker 4: Now, Tony. If a Keeam Hicks is out there, if
Speaker 4: you want a big bodied guy and you want to
Speaker 4: bring him in now, and then if he comes in
Speaker 4: and those guys get better, then he get rid of them,
Speaker 4: or you keep them or get rid of somebody else.
Speaker 4: There's ways around that. I don't buy that competitive edge crap.
Speaker 4: It's garbage. Everybody in the league does it, though, it's
Speaker 4: not just here, so I can't. I'm not just pinpointing
Speaker 4: the Jaguars for this.
Speaker 5: You're your your inner beat writer is coming out, because
Speaker 5: this is Pete on the beat who refuses to let
Speaker 5: anyone pass anything by him without him digging in and
Speaker 5: finding every conspiracy, every hidden everything, turning over, turning over
Speaker 5: every rock, meeting people in the parking lot, chasing them down.
Speaker 5: I mean, Pete, that's why. And I'm not saying this critically.
Speaker 5: I'm actually giving you a compliment. This is why you
Speaker 5: were one of the best beat writers in the NFL
Speaker 5: when you were a beat writer, because there's nothing that
Speaker 5: would stop you from finding out the truth. My point is,
Speaker 5: take a deep breath, buddy, you're not on the beat anymore.
Speaker 6: Who gives a crap.
Speaker 4: It's just I just think that they should when something
Speaker 4: like this comes up, you should just be honest about it.
Speaker 4: It's and I've always said this tone. You know I've
Speaker 4: said this. I think it puts the player. It puts
Speaker 4: the bad light.
Speaker 5: You can put the player in a bad light either
Speaker 5: way by not saying enough or also telling. And I
Speaker 5: won't bring up any specific example, but you were here
Speaker 5: telling them when a player is going to be back.
Speaker 5: You know it's a week to week injury. When they're
Speaker 5: when the when the muscles off the bone and no
Speaker 5: chance are playing all year.
Speaker 6: That's put all even the worst situation.
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame Fred Hall of Famer Fred Taylor says, hello.
Speaker 2: Hey, plenty to get to. Of course, we'll come back
Speaker 2: and get into the offense. What to expect from the
Speaker 2: starters in preseason week three, defensively, pass rush, all that
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Speaker 3: We get Ben barsh back this week. You know, he
Speaker 3: started his time last week. We're going to increase his
Speaker 3: reps this week and he'll have a chance to play
Speaker 3: in the many game and and give us some quality
Speaker 3: reps there, you know. And and looking look at the depth, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're we're a little fit at the offensive line.
Speaker 2: It's something we're going to monitor, you know, this week.
Speaker 3: But but right now, you know, we're comfortable where we
Speaker 3: are and some of the guys that we're going to
Speaker 3: get back uh here in the next next few days.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't look like we're going to add anybody
Speaker 3: at this time.
Speaker 2: I said coach Chug Peterson earlier today discussing maybe adding
Speaker 2: some more bodies in the O line, but apparently not.
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Speaker 2: Shadwick with Pete Prisco and Tony Vasselli. We're on ten
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Speaker 2: there's a long list now of offensive line players that
Speaker 2: are on the injury report. Josh Wells one of those
Speaker 2: you mentioned Anton Harrison earlier, did not play in the game,
Speaker 2: but is expected to go this week. Moving ahead, Daryl
Speaker 2: Williams had a shoulder issue in the game but stayed
Speaker 2: in throughout the backup center and that sounds like he'll
Speaker 2: be good to go this week. Chandler Brewer is in
Speaker 2: the concussion protocol and the third quarter that went in.
Speaker 2: Tyler Shatley, as you mentioned, is still out one more
Speaker 2: week of blood thinners apparently, so maybe next week he'll
Speaker 2: be back and ready, not this week. Blake Hants was
Speaker 2: evaluated for a concussion during the game but was cleared,
Speaker 2: but they're monitoring him off to the monitoring his reps.
Speaker 2: He's practicing, he's fine. Cooper Hodges with a patella injury,
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be a significant amount of time, seems like.
Speaker 2: So that's a lot, that's a long list. There goes
Speaker 2: some of the depth, Tony.
Speaker 5: I mean, what's well, yeah, I mean let's start with
Speaker 5: the tackles. That was a position to depth. And then
Speaker 5: Josh Wells's injury on Wednesday, because he was going to
Speaker 5: be your swing tackle.
Speaker 6: And so he looks like he's going to be out
Speaker 6: for a while.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't be surprised if they do something injury settlement and
Speaker 5: then try to bring him back post injury settlement based
Speaker 5: on how long. So you got that is your swings on.
Speaker 5: Now you have your you know, Anton Harrison working through
Speaker 5: a shoulder thinged up again, got tinged up early in camp,
Speaker 5: gets dinged up after a great practice. You I don't
Speaker 5: know if he saw it, but he was awesome.
Speaker 6: Awesome, that kid a bunch Well I forget about just
Speaker 6: like I always get this night.
Speaker 5: I mean, he did, you know, But I'm telling you
Speaker 5: what I liked about it more than just what.
Speaker 6: He did to Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: It's his overall ability to play in space and be
Speaker 5: comfortable in space and recover his feet.
Speaker 6: Or so good. He's so smooth, he has better strength
Speaker 6: than I thought.
Speaker 5: He's a tough kid. He likes to finish.
Speaker 6: I think he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna I mean, I hate the shoulder, and you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know exactly what it is. If it's a sublaxation,
Speaker 5: if it's a little bit of a labrum or both.
Speaker 5: The word is he could have played, if you know,
Speaker 5: if they needed him on, but they're being smart. None
Speaker 5: of the starters were going to play anyways. He'll play
Speaker 5: against Miami. It's just something he's not have to manage
Speaker 5: at the year, and that worries you. For a young player,
Speaker 5: it's already hard enough to be a rookie, and then
Speaker 5: you have to manage an injury, which I had to
Speaker 5: with my knee that my entire rookie year. And it's
Speaker 5: just something he's just got to deal with and learn
Speaker 5: and it's part of the process. So but staying on tackle,
Speaker 5: one of my biggest concerns is we already knew we
Speaker 5: were missing camp for four weeks.
Speaker 6: I thought Cam was having.
Speaker 5: A pretty good camp until the last you know, did
Speaker 5: not play great in Dallas. I'm not gonna say he
Speaker 5: was terrible Dallas, but they're not playing.
Speaker 6: Okay, it wasn't good.
Speaker 5: I had a pretty good practice Wednesday. I thought he
Speaker 5: looked fine in the in the bull padded joint practice.
Speaker 5: But Pete from the game and listen, you.
Speaker 6: Know, I'm an offensive line apologist.
Speaker 5: I give these guys the benefit of the doubt to
Speaker 5: the nth degree, and I get killed on the show
Speaker 5: from Pete and JP for doing it. I can't even
Speaker 5: I can't defend it. I mean, he got run through
Speaker 5: three times.
Speaker 6: I think it was Pete.
Speaker 4: Almost and he held on one of them, and he
Speaker 4: got called for a hold on one of them.
Speaker 5: Hell and and he was going to against Akuora, who's
Speaker 5: gonna play.
Speaker 6: He's a player, but he's not a top end pass rusher.
Speaker 6: He got back up.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 5: He got he got run over multiple times, like he
Speaker 5: was catching him. He's getting run through through his inside shoulder,
Speaker 5: he's holding on, he's getting pushed around.
Speaker 6: It was it was almost like he didn't want to
Speaker 6: be out there.
Speaker 4: And thought the suspension was the first four games out
Speaker 4: in the preseason, and he plays.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, and I get it mentally, it's
Speaker 5: hard for a guy like Cam. He's you know, not
Speaker 5: hurt last year after signed the big deal. He's wants
Speaker 5: to be the franchise left tackle. Then to get suspended
Speaker 5: for four games, so he's gonna be out.
Speaker 6: So you know, his head's not completely right.
Speaker 4: Stringers in the fourth quarter, of course, his head's not right.
Speaker 6: But that's where you have to be a pro and
Speaker 6: go show them like you can count on me. And
Speaker 6: that was And here's the bigger thing, Pete.
Speaker 5: Forget about Phil Rauscher and Doug Peterson and the Jaguars.
Speaker 6: Forget about all that. I'm just telling you he's a player.
Speaker 6: You want that on tape? What is that?
Speaker 4: Well, he kind of got called out by Doug Peterson
Speaker 4: today too. You know, Doug's not going to call somebody
Speaker 4: out in the preseason, and he kind of did. I mean,
Speaker 4: he said he was on the ground a lot. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: let's call the guy out.
Speaker 2: He was on the ground. That's true.
Speaker 4: Huh yeah. And here's here's okay, I'm gonna go back
Speaker 4: to what I said and what you agree with me
Speaker 4: before the season. Walker Little should be the left tackle period,
Speaker 4: end of story.
Speaker 6: And well, but let me just give a little caveat
Speaker 6: to that.
Speaker 5: I I mean, everything you've seen in the games this
Speaker 5: year ago, last year, Walker Little last year was playing
Speaker 5: at a very good level, similar to Camp.
Speaker 6: Coming to Camp, I think Walker said the better Camp. Now.
Speaker 6: Walker was not great against Dallas either, but he was.
Speaker 6: He was fine. A little sloppy on his technique, got.
Speaker 5: All over his you know, wait, over his feet a
Speaker 5: little bit of a couple of times, but nothing like
Speaker 5: nothing that is gonna make you panic. And here's but
Speaker 5: here's Walker is doing exactly what you want a pro
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 6: You think he wants to play left guard, No, but
Speaker 6: he wants to do his best for the team, and
Speaker 6: I appreciate that. So he could slid down.
Speaker 5: The left guard, camp start and left tackle. If you
Speaker 5: would have thought anyone was going to struggle in that
Speaker 5: game against the backup, you said, okay, you're gonna give
Speaker 5: Walker Little a pass the first time ever in a
Speaker 5: game in his life, as far as I know ever,
Speaker 5: he's ever played anything but tackle. So he gets rolled
Speaker 5: in there he goes, and I thought he played great.
Speaker 4: I did too. I thought he was. He got to
Speaker 4: the second level off the double teams, which is you know, Tony, that.
Speaker 6: Takes work, and he was physical.
Speaker 5: He didn't get overwhelmed at the point of attack. You know,
Speaker 5: it's a different but work different, you know, kind of engagement.
Speaker 5: And so now the problem is, Pete, if you're Doug Peterson,
Speaker 5: on one hand, you're like, yes, I love it because
Speaker 5: now I can put my five best guys out there
Speaker 5: once Cam gets back. But then you go, oh, oh,
Speaker 5: is Cam one of our five best if he's gonna
Speaker 5: play like that?
Speaker 4: Or are you better with Walker Little at left tackle
Speaker 4: and somebody else playing guard than you are with Walker
Speaker 4: Little at gardens and Cam Robinson left?
Speaker 2: Ben Bart? Ben Bart back to form at the start
Speaker 2: of last season, Is he better than all those guys?
Speaker 6: Well, I don't, I don't know if he. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know about that JP. I want
Speaker 6: to see that first. Ben.
Speaker 2: Well, he won the job last year. Pete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but it was he ever. I mean, you
Speaker 4: can check the box and say, okay, above average offensive guard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with Pete.
Speaker 5: I don't think you you know, what was it eight
Speaker 5: nine games he played whatever?
Speaker 6: It was six seven, I can't remember when he hurt.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even that many.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't like when he got hurt. You're like,
Speaker 5: you know, he's the future left guard of this franchise.
Speaker 4: Right. It's not like a four year vet that had
Speaker 4: started at that spot got hurt. Now he's coming back
Speaker 4: to take the job back. He's gonna have to go
Speaker 4: back in there and win the job.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to win it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Tony, I'm with you. If Robinson and Little
Speaker 4: of your best left side, then okay, I personally and
Speaker 4: here's why. And nobody wants to hear this in the
Speaker 4: organization right now, particularly the head coaches, because I said
Speaker 4: it to that coach. Walker Little is your best left tackle.
Speaker 4: If you go into the first four games and he
Speaker 4: plays left tackle even better than he did a year ago,
Speaker 4: and he's he's clearly becoming that guy and the offensive
Speaker 4: line isn't having major issues no matter who's playing left guard.
Speaker 4: Do you make the change just for the sake of
Speaker 4: making the change, even though Cam Robinson is probably not
Speaker 4: gonna be here next year and Walker Little will be
Speaker 4: your left tackle. I just don't like that. I don't
Speaker 4: think that's smart to do. Again, he could go in
Speaker 4: there when the regular season starts, Tony and revert to
Speaker 4: being a guy that doesn't know what he's doing. I
Speaker 4: doubt it. I highly doubt it, but he could and
Speaker 4: if that happens, then you make the movie. You put
Speaker 4: Cam back in there, and you put Walker little left guard.
Speaker 5: But but you're missing the bigger point based on what
Speaker 5: you've seen in the preseason.
Speaker 6: Do you trust Cam Robinson out there? No?
Speaker 4: I don't, but I.
Speaker 6: Sometimes get something.
Speaker 4: No, Tony, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm not making a final assessment. I'm still
Speaker 5: a believer in Cam Robinson. It is talent ability. I
Speaker 5: like Cam Robinson. I'm just telling you what I've seen
Speaker 5: on tape. And all you can do is judge what's
Speaker 5: on tape. And as a player, why do you want
Speaker 5: that on tape anywhere?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: It's it was.
Speaker 4: Bad and and like you said, they were backups, they
Speaker 4: weren't like they were starting. Let's let's let's go through
Speaker 4: two things, JP, who's the opening day five on the
Speaker 4: offensive line? Who is the week five? And your estimation
Speaker 4: for both of you? Who's the we? And I'll give
Speaker 4: you mine?
Speaker 5: Well, opening days easy, it's Anton Harrison, Brandon Sheriff, Luke
Speaker 5: fortn Or.
Speaker 6: I think sorry, I think it's I think it's.
Speaker 5: Ben bart is gonna be your left guard, Uh, and
Speaker 5: I think little.
Speaker 2: Left that's the easy guard. What about week five?
Speaker 6: Now, it's not just because I still think Blake Camp's
Speaker 6: could be the left guard, could be the left guard.
Speaker 6: I think it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Awful left guard last week when he played there.
Speaker 5: The week five, I still think it's gonna be cam Walker,
Speaker 5: Little Uh, Fortner, uh Sheriff and Anton Harrison.
Speaker 4: I do too, but I wouldn't do it if they're
Speaker 4: playing well. It's not playing well easy to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're like we've talked about before, if they're
Speaker 2: mauling people and they're three and one, whatever the record is.
Speaker 2: But if they're mauling people and playing well as a
Speaker 2: line and winning, you know, winning more than they.
Speaker 6: I mean JP, if they're mauling people, they're going to
Speaker 6: be four and oh.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say they're four and none.
Speaker 5: Through the first you go through the first four games.
Speaker 5: I mean Indy, they better beat Indy. Rookie quarterback game
Speaker 5: is first start ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I talked about the lack of pass
Speaker 2: rushers the first month against this.
Speaker 4: They don't play teams with great outside edge rush, right,
Speaker 4: they don't know, so they.
Speaker 5: Better be Kansas City, Kansas didn't coming week two. That's
Speaker 5: gonna be a tough matchup. Anytime he played Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 5: it's a coin flip. And now the guards will have
Speaker 5: a test because Chris.
Speaker 6: Jones is like a wrecking ball, wrecking machine.
Speaker 2: They played him twice last year.
Speaker 4: A wrecking ball.
Speaker 2: Yes, we get that, but they've.
Speaker 4: Seen there are certain guys who are just game records.
Speaker 4: He's a game.
Speaker 5: Record, yes, but but I mean it's at home, it's opening.
Speaker 6: I think we win that game. It'll be how you
Speaker 6: got then you got Houston, which.
Speaker 4: Means you rushed. You're playing Will Anderson, who's a rookie
Speaker 4: in his third game.
Speaker 6: You should beat them. You're three and oh right, and
Speaker 6: you Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Right rushers on the edge, well you should be four
Speaker 4: and oh and so if they are, do you make
Speaker 4: a change. But but here's the other part of the question.
Speaker 4: We're ignoring it. What if Camp goes out the last
Speaker 4: bit of actual football tape you get from him this
Speaker 4: week and Miami Dolphins are running through him again, then
Speaker 4: what do you do? Do you just I mean, oh,
Speaker 4: that's not who he is. He plays better in practice.
Speaker 4: I mean do you what do you do.
Speaker 6: Well? In pete?
Speaker 5: I don't think you roll him out week five in
Speaker 5: London either, because remember he's away from the facility for
Speaker 5: four weeks, so his first week back.
Speaker 4: Practice a couple of weeks in though. Isn't that the
Speaker 4: rule you can come back?
Speaker 6: I think I thought I didn't think so. I thought
Speaker 6: you were four weeks. I thought it to be bad.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I'm not sure. But either case, he's not
Speaker 4: playing for eight week seven weeks, right is it? If
Speaker 4: it plays Saturday, then they go one, two, three, four, five,
Speaker 4: it'll be six weeks by the time he hits somebody.
Speaker 4: And actually, if you count the first two weeks, it's
Speaker 4: eight weeks because he didn't hit anybody in that game. Wow,
Speaker 4: all right, alone, I do not I do.
Speaker 5: Not endorse that. I disagree with that comment. That was
Speaker 5: Pete Prisco, not to.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving you that, but but for him, by
Speaker 4: his standards, by what we've seen when he plays well,
Speaker 4: that was a horrible performance. Period. There's no other way
Speaker 4: to share it, to call it out.
Speaker 2: All right, guys, it.
Speaker 6: Was a bad performance regardless. I don't care who you are.
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Speaker 7: Jeremiah led Better, Adam Gotsis or tie as that that
Speaker 7: we have, you know, as as role players, backup guys,
Speaker 7: I think Tyler.
Speaker 3: Lacey's another one that really has emerged. He played played
Speaker 3: well in the game. He continues to get better right there.
Speaker 3: So you know, we've got a couple of guys that
Speaker 3: that that are on the roster that can they can
Speaker 3: give us some really good time, you know, in Devon's absence,
Speaker 3: however long that's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Said coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom call
Speaker 2: with the media discussing the Jaguars options on the defensive line.
Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, preseason
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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco Hey.
Speaker 2: Adam gots has been around this league for a while now.
Speaker 2: His eighth year Ledbetter had a big game. Pete, as
Speaker 2: you referenced earlier, a guy who's been around but hasn't
Speaker 2: had a lot of opportunities in his career. Five tackles,
Speaker 2: a sack, force fumble. You keep playing like that, no
Speaker 2: matter who you line up against, you're gonna at least
Speaker 2: open some eyes. Let's put it that way. He may
Speaker 2: not have made the team with that performance, but he's
Speaker 2: right there on the edge of it now, right.
Speaker 4: He was active, and that's always a good thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: he pushed the pocket, he got pressure up the field,
Speaker 4: he won in the run game, he held up when
Speaker 4: he had to. I like what I saw from him.
Speaker 4: Is he going to make the team? That's you know,
Speaker 4: it depends on how many to keep. It depends on
Speaker 4: the health of guys up front. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 4: we mentioned, we mentioned possibility of getting another guy if
Speaker 4: the injuries are a problem. A Keem Hicks is out
Speaker 4: there and he's a big, giant body. I don't know
Speaker 4: what kind of shape he's in, but I mean he's
Speaker 4: one of those guys that you know when maybe that's
Speaker 4: worth a look. You know, Tony, you remember he was
Speaker 4: dominant at times in his career. Is a big, big,
Speaker 4: tough guy in the middle.
Speaker 5: The question is how much is he left in the
Speaker 5: tank and how much does he want to play?
Speaker 4: I mean four hundred pounds or something. You never know,
Speaker 4: You're right, I get it, but you look a look
Speaker 4: see and by the way, there are some offensive linemen
Speaker 4: out there if they're worried about that too. I mean,
Speaker 4: like Dalton Reisner started a bunch in Denver. Uh aj
Speaker 4: Kans out there. I mean he started, he was starting
Speaker 4: in Houston last week, wasn't last year wasn't awful. I
Speaker 4: mean there's a couple of guys out there if you
Speaker 4: got if you need backup guys and you know they're
Speaker 4: gonna come on the one year minimum. The problem with
Speaker 4: those guys, if they're on your active rosters to start
Speaker 4: the season, you got to pay them, so you'd probably
Speaker 4: wait till after. You'd wait until after bring him in.
Speaker 5: No, I agree, Peat, I mean it'll be interesting. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think Ledbetter baking the roster comes down to how
Speaker 5: many guys they want to keep. Because he's on the
Speaker 5: fifty three man, because he's a great specialties player, he's four.
Speaker 5: The question is, and Doug mentioned Eddie Lacy, you know,
Speaker 5: I mean Eddie Lacy's.
Speaker 4: He's probably, He's probably He's probably as big as Tyler.
Speaker 6: Tyler.
Speaker 5: Tyler Lacy is a guy that I mean, he drafted him.
Speaker 5: He's gonna have the you know, kind of the the
Speaker 5: advantage of being in this this uh, this group's draft pick.
Speaker 4: So I think, now have you noticed him much.
Speaker 6: He's ad a good camp.
Speaker 5: I mean he's a big body, his athletic, but Ledbetter's
Speaker 5: production it's hard to argue with.
Speaker 6: I mean, he flashed in the game.
Speaker 5: He played well. I thought he played okay in Dallas too,
Speaker 5: So I mean, well.
Speaker 4: We had so many people asking to cut the team,
Speaker 4: So I mean they want you to cut the team, Tony.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not ready to do that.
Speaker 4: You're gonna cut the next week.
Speaker 2: Pete had it cut like a month ago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well don't we have the show two weeks before
Speaker 6: they do the cuts.
Speaker 4: We do, but they're gonna have to. They might cut
Speaker 4: it before Tuesday, so your information will be outdated.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't do it. They won't no cut Tuesday,
Speaker 6: We'll do it Monday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just doesn't want to do I see what
Speaker 4: you're doing. You don't want to do it.
Speaker 2: Stall tactic classic.
Speaker 4: It is a stall tactic because then you know why JP,
Speaker 4: Because if they cut before next Monday, then we don't
Speaker 4: have to do it. I see what you do it.
Speaker 2: It's gonna wait play the waiting game.
Speaker 4: But I mean you think five defense interior defensive lineman period.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: So in that case, if everybody's healthy, it comes down
Speaker 4: to leadbetter versus lazy, and they'll keep lazy. I think,
Speaker 4: how many pass rushers do you keep? Four?
Speaker 6: At least four? Yeah, maybe five?
Speaker 2: Who are they?
Speaker 4: Ten total players? Then?
Speaker 2: Who are I think?
Speaker 5: I think yeah, because I think you keep uh, You're
Speaker 5: gonna keep Dan Smoot and he can kick down and
Speaker 5: place inside smooth.
Speaker 4: Abdullah the two starters and Chase on Yep, we're getting there.
Speaker 2: We're cutting the team. I got nice job.
Speaker 4: The question becomes how many linebackers do they keep on
Speaker 4: the inside.
Speaker 5: For we're gonna keep uh, Muma, Lloyd and.
Speaker 2: Uh and probably and who shack Corman staying well.
Speaker 5: I think it comes down to Miller, quarter and Miller.
Speaker 5: And the problem with Miller has not been he's been
Speaker 5: banged up and he had an injury history coming out
Speaker 5: of Florida, and he's missed.
Speaker 6: Quite a bit of time.
Speaker 4: But the draft pack, well, Miller's more.
Speaker 5: Than Miller's more talented because he's he's more athletic. But
Speaker 5: Quarterman is just he's solid, he's always out there, he's
Speaker 5: never heard.
Speaker 6: He does everything you ask him to do.
Speaker 4: So they wouldn't keep all of them, though.
Speaker 6: No, they're gonna keep four.
Speaker 4: And then going to the secondary.
Speaker 6: Now, I think it comes down to Quarterman or Miller.
Speaker 4: I agree. Then you get there the secondary, you got
Speaker 4: some young guys that have flashback there.
Speaker 6: Well, you're you're you're keeping. Let's start with safety. That's easy.
Speaker 5: Zisco Jenkins winger, winger, and I think you keep Daniel Thomas.
Speaker 4: And Thomas has played well pretty.
Speaker 6: Well and he and he's a and he's a core
Speaker 6: special teams.
Speaker 4: So there's your four there.
Speaker 5: But I think they're gonna keep five because I think
Speaker 5: Antonio Johnson's gonna make this.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what's kind of like a hybrid guy
Speaker 4: will count hands.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think I think ultimately they want Antonio
Speaker 6: Johnson to be their nickel.
Speaker 4: I would agree play that he could, he could handle it.
Speaker 4: Get put him in there and let him play a
Speaker 4: guy like Kelsey if you have.
Speaker 2: To go to see what the hamstring, how that's gonna
Speaker 2: go though, right, I mean, he's got a hamstring issue
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: So but he's gonna be on the team. You're right,
Speaker 4: He's going to be on the team.
Speaker 5: He's on the team. So that's five. And then you're
Speaker 5: you're looking at your corners. Well, you know, Darius Williams
Speaker 5: and Tyson Campbell are going to be.
Speaker 6: On the roster.
Speaker 4: Rest of them are up for grabs.
Speaker 6: I think Trey makes it because push comes to shove.
Speaker 6: You know, he can go play nickel and he can
Speaker 6: play special teams.
Speaker 5: I think then it comes down to who I think
Speaker 5: they want Antonio Johnson to be that nickel, but.
Speaker 4: Corners though.
Speaker 2: Gregory is right there on the doorstep too. He's got
Speaker 2: to be now, Gregory.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gregory Junior is on the doorstep. I think Braswell
Speaker 5: has done enough this preseason to bake.
Speaker 4: Braswell has done some Yeah, I think Braswell's done some
Speaker 4: good stuff. Hallett was bad the other day. I think
Speaker 4: that could be a problem for him. What about so
Speaker 4: you keep five? So it comes down to keep you.
Speaker 4: They probably will keep Herndon Tony just to keep because
Speaker 4: he's they're comfortable with him.
Speaker 5: They maybe keep keep Braswell and Gregory Jr.
Speaker 2: Five. Yeah, okay, we'll come back and cut the offense
Speaker 2: in just a moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been great that you do it. You
Speaker 4: didn't even know you were doing it. That's that's the
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Speaker 2: go for a half week. Just tricked Tony Boselli into
Speaker 2: cutting the defense. And I let.
Speaker 4: That was really easy, by the way.
Speaker 2: That was like an easy setup, Pete.
Speaker 6: Because I knew what was coming. I knew it was coming.
Speaker 6: I let you guys get the joy.
Speaker 4: Well, you thought they were gonna cut it before we
Speaker 4: had to do it, and he didn't want to get beat.
Speaker 4: They look forward to it. The fans look forward to this, Tony.
Speaker 2: They do. The fans are clamoring no, and I know
Speaker 2: they're clamoring now for the offense. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: this shouldn't be as difficult the offense is. There's a
Speaker 2: couple of keys.
Speaker 4: Let's start with the quarterback. Do you keep three?
Speaker 5: Let's do that last, because it depends on how many
Speaker 5: spots you have left.
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, all.
Speaker 4: Right, So offensive linemen, you're gonna keep ten? No, nine, eight, No,
Speaker 4: you'll keep more than eight with the.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe nine, So it's you're starting five. It's up
Speaker 5: with Birch in there.
Speaker 4: But remember you're keeping Cam doesn't count against the roster,
Speaker 4: so you can't count him.
Speaker 6: I'm not right now, Okay.
Speaker 5: I think uh Blake can't is making it six?
Speaker 6: The unknown is Shaley and the.
Speaker 2: A fib Well, he's apparently going to give a go
Speaker 2: next week, so if he's back.
Speaker 6: He's on yep, and then h that's seven.
Speaker 4: Hodges would have made it, but he want.
Speaker 6: Well I think I actually think he makes it, and
Speaker 6: then they put him on I r return later, So
Speaker 6: putt Hodges is eight because opening, I mean, I think
Speaker 6: he makes the initial roster. You know, you might keep
Speaker 6: Bobby Evans as a swing tackle, unless you because who
Speaker 6: else is going to play?
Speaker 5: Because I mean, because right now you have no swing
Speaker 5: you have no left tackle besides walk a little now,
Speaker 5: Anthon Harrison can do that, but you don't want to
Speaker 5: ask him.
Speaker 6: You want to as a rookie, want him at one position.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do? What do you do with
Speaker 4: If Shatley isn't back all the way, you have to
Speaker 4: find somebody who can snap the football. So do you
Speaker 4: keep the backup center?
Speaker 5: I think I think you got to keep Darryl Williams
Speaker 5: at that point.
Speaker 4: He's not bad. He's been okay too. Though he's not
Speaker 4: he's not He's a solid player in there.
Speaker 5: I think I think I think getting the eight or nine,
Speaker 5: it will probably be nine.
Speaker 6: Offensive linement is tough right now because of all the injuries.
Speaker 6: We don't know enough. We're not going to know until
Speaker 6: next week.
Speaker 4: And what's Wells's injury.
Speaker 6: They have not reported.
Speaker 2: It's an adductor is what groin area?
Speaker 6: Yes so, And I heard of the bad version.
Speaker 4: So if it's the bad version, that's how long tony
Speaker 4: six weeks?
Speaker 6: Maybe eight?
Speaker 2: Yes so?
Speaker 4: But didn't didn't Sheriff play within that same exact thing
Speaker 4: last year and ended up having surgery on it after
Speaker 4: the season.
Speaker 6: I think it's a little different. I think this is
Speaker 6: I think this is a little more severe.
Speaker 4: Well If that's the case, then he's gone for a
Speaker 4: long time, so you can't count him. But you're right,
Speaker 4: they have to keep a swing tackle because you you
Speaker 4: can't count on Cam being swing Tackleckle or Walker Little
Speaker 4: be the swing tackle or whoever. So that you're right,
Speaker 4: Bobby Evans might be a guy they keep you play
Speaker 4: tackle too.
Speaker 6: Though he can play right, I don't think he can
Speaker 6: play left right.
Speaker 4: So he counts as the swing guard and the swing
Speaker 4: tackle right tackle, and then you can count Bobby Evans.
Speaker 4: He could play wherever he has to play.
Speaker 2: What's position group is next? Pet tight ends? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, by the way, that kid is a maller and
Speaker 4: is a run blocker.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 4: I mean, you don't ever draft the guy the third
Speaker 4: round because he's a maller as a blocker.
Speaker 6: But he is that he runs. He's not bad in
Speaker 6: the past game.
Speaker 4: He's not what he isn't is sudden.
Speaker 6: He's gonna be what he gives you when he is
Speaker 6: a in line tight end.
Speaker 5: They did not have this last man. Hurts was no
Speaker 5: threat in the pass game. He's at least a threat
Speaker 5: in the past g he's.
Speaker 4: More of a threat. Yes, so he's he's on Uh Ingram. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then then you go down and you got it?
Speaker 4: How many more do you keep too?
Speaker 2: Making?
Speaker 6: Luke Farrell is on the team.
Speaker 2: Right, and then Garrett Prince, your guy?
Speaker 4: Did he fizzle out? Because he was the sensation of
Speaker 4: early in camp and he hasn't really been that much.
Speaker 2: Who the other options right now are Garrett Prince, Josh Peterson,
Speaker 2: Derek Parrish.
Speaker 4: It's probably Prince.
Speaker 6: It's Prince.
Speaker 4: Okay, so there's four.
Speaker 2: There's four running backs.
Speaker 6: Wide receivers, wide receivers. You're keeping six. It's this is easy.
Speaker 6: It's it's Ridley, Zay Jones.
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, Parker, Washington jam Jamal Agnew. I think it
Speaker 5: is Parker.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think he has any role
Speaker 6: this year at all.
Speaker 2: No, he's the guy who sit down on game.
Speaker 6: It's I think he's an active game day.
Speaker 5: I think it comes down to either Tim Jones or
Speaker 5: Paris taking Paris.
Speaker 2: I would agree Tim Jones is kind of the incumbent
Speaker 2: in that spot, right. Special teams guys.
Speaker 4: He's better on special teams, isn't he.
Speaker 5: Well, just because you've seen it, Harris has had a
Speaker 5: good camp on special teams. He's worked really hard at it.
Speaker 5: But I think Tim Jones ends up getting that job
Speaker 5: from betting Man.
Speaker 4: So Parker Washington they have no and adding Ridley, they
Speaker 4: have no real change on that. It's the same group.
Speaker 4: Then do you do you but Washington? What's he doesn't
Speaker 4: do anything? So would you tuck him? Try and tuck
Speaker 4: him on the practice squad? If he does, he is
Speaker 4: he canny play special teams.
Speaker 2: Can get him through there. I don't know about that.
Speaker 6: I don't think he gets through. I don't think he
Speaker 6: gets through.
Speaker 4: Okay, so he's he's uh he So you keep six
Speaker 4: and that's done. Running backs?
Speaker 6: Well, you're keeping obviously ETN and.
Speaker 5: Uh big B.
Speaker 6: I think I think I think four. It's can be
Speaker 6: hasty and uh uh Johnson?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what if they keep three hasty?
Speaker 6: I don't know. Johnson's look good this camp, he.
Speaker 4: Has looked good. I think you keep all. I think
Speaker 4: he keeps the four of them.
Speaker 2: So that gets us to quarterback.
Speaker 6: I think they only keep two quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I think they'll they'll put
Speaker 4: Rourke on the practice squad. Somebody was asking the other day,
Speaker 4: is did Rourke out play betht in the preseason?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: Do you think he's better than Bethert.
Speaker 5: Pete, I'll say what I said this morning with Hicken.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you the chance to see if you
Speaker 5: get it right. Listen me, because basically, I mean you
Speaker 5: evaluate every player based on what the response its abilities are.
Speaker 6: What are their skill sets? So what are you asking
Speaker 6: them to do?
Speaker 5: What are their skill sets and how do they perform
Speaker 5: those skill sets. Let's be out the responsibilities for a
Speaker 5: backup quarterback.
Speaker 6: In this league.
Speaker 4: Be a good buddy of the head of the starting.
Speaker 5: Quarterback psychologist, make the room good, well right, and then
Speaker 5: you get into can you play?
Speaker 4: But you also you can look at what Bethert's salary
Speaker 4: isn't little.
Speaker 5: Let me say this, Pete, They're not getting rid of Beth.
Speaker 5: He is the backup quarterback. I don't care what I mean.
Speaker 2: Peterson said that yesterday or after the game or yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he is.
Speaker 5: He's the backup because he does what you need With
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is your quarterback.
Speaker 6: I don't think you.
Speaker 5: Want a young guy who's never played in this league
Speaker 5: in Roark mean your backup with Trevor Lawrence is your starter.
Speaker 4: That's not the he doesn't you don't save that money.
Speaker 4: You don't you save?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's sign He's not going anywhere. We're back in
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Speaker 3: You can't substitute game game reps and the feeling of
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of pressure and a little
Speaker 3: heat from you know, execution and in practice. It's okay
Speaker 3: to make a mistake because we can correct.
Speaker 2: It in the film.
Speaker 3: In the game, you know, it gets magnified. So I
Speaker 3: just need those guys to play together, you know. Obviously
Speaker 3: if they can play two cores, I'd love to get
Speaker 3: you know, a two minute drive if we could. Those
Speaker 3: are all things that you know, it's hard to simulate
Speaker 3: and practice. We'd love to get the defense a two.
Speaker 8: Minute scenario there as well, you know, so we'll see
Speaker 8: how it goes. But they need they need the time
Speaker 8: on the you know, in a game, in a game setting,
Speaker 8: and being a home game too, it makes a little
Speaker 8: bit easier that way.
Speaker 2: That's head coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom
Speaker 2: call the media and welcome back. Second hour of Jaguars
Speaker 2: Happy Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. The Jaguars
Speaker 2: recapping preseason Week two, a win in Detroit. The reserves
Speaker 2: got all the time in the game. This week, the
Speaker 2: starters will play against the Miami Dolphins Saturday at EverBank
Speaker 2: Stadium and should be a nice night for it. Seven
Speaker 2: o'clock kickoff time. Jaguars got the win though in Detroit Saturday,
Speaker 2: twenty five to seven the final score. The injuries starting
Speaker 2: to pile up on the offensive end defensive lines, especially
Speaker 2: in the O line. The depth being tested there. Two
Speaker 2: front line defensive linemen are demed up right now fully
Speaker 2: Patacasi and of von Hamilton. Phatakasi is week to week Hamilton,
Speaker 2: no true timetable has been announced. Walker Little played left
Speaker 2: guard in the first half last week for a look
Speaker 2: at what could be an option once Cam Robinson returns
Speaker 2: from his four game suspension, and as we said onto
Speaker 2: preseason week three, Doug Peterson looking for a half from
Speaker 2: the starters and a few certain situations. There are still
Speaker 2: some position battles to be decided. Sixth receiver, fifth or
Speaker 2: sixth receiver, whichever way you want to look at it.
Speaker 2: Third corner as well, just to name a couple, Tony Vasselli,
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco of course with us every single Monday. We've
Speaker 2: cut the team already, Pete, congrats.
Speaker 4: See I knew I would get him to do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but did we do the map? It feels like
Speaker 5: we have like fifty six guys on the roster.
Speaker 4: I don't think so. You kept the ad and guys.
Speaker 5: We had ten defense the line and outside backers. We
Speaker 5: had ten secondary. That's twenty We had four backers. That's
Speaker 5: twenty four on defense, right, yes, okay, twenty four defensive guys.
Speaker 5: On offense, we had lineman, nine offensive lineman. Two quarterbacks
Speaker 5: that's eleven. Four running backs.
Speaker 6: At fifteen or tight six wide receivers.
Speaker 5: That's twenty two. Four tight ends twenty six. That's fifty
Speaker 5: that you have your three specialist thingo fifty three.
Speaker 6: We nailed it.
Speaker 4: We got it right on the right, right on the number.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
Speaker 5: You know, Doug and Trent can go home for the
Speaker 5: rest of the next two weeks. We did their work
Speaker 5: for them.
Speaker 4: Show they probably they probably like you to take over
Speaker 4: when they cut his son.
Speaker 6: I'm staying away from family, Pete.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a harsh one. I feel bad for
Speaker 4: whoever has to do that. You know what, though, he
Speaker 4: got an opportunity to be in a training camp.
Speaker 2: I think that's what And that's what he said when
Speaker 2: they media talked to Josh Peters.
Speaker 4: Late in the and he played in the in the
Speaker 4: league in the I mean that's the.
Speaker 2: First time around he's been around.
Speaker 4: So no, yeah, and yeah, I'll tell you what. When
Speaker 4: he was in that league, he made plays in that league.
Speaker 2: So that's all ahead. The cut has been made here
Speaker 2: on Jangle is happy hour. They'll have to make the
Speaker 2: cut officially by four o'clock of Tuesday next week. That's
Speaker 2: what it has to be.
Speaker 4: By the way, there's one guy or two guys that
Speaker 4: are gonna make the team that we don't have on
Speaker 4: the team. Let's be real.
Speaker 2: Here's a question. How many cut Jaguars players will be
Speaker 2: claimed by other teams.
Speaker 4: I think injuries have impacted that. On the offensive line.
Speaker 4: You might have had a guy get cut on the
Speaker 4: offensive line that might have gotten claimed, but I don't
Speaker 4: think that's the case now with the injuries being what
Speaker 4: they are. You know, Tony, when you look around the NFL,
Speaker 4: the backup offensive lines are terrible.
Speaker 6: I think we're pretty deep at receiver.
Speaker 5: I could see some of those receivers getting signed as
Speaker 5: the fifth or sixth guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever that sixth guy or seventh guy is. You know,
Speaker 2: if it's not Tim Jones the.
Speaker 4: Seventh guy, if it comes down to Tim Jones and
Speaker 4: Harris at one of those guys would be the seventh Yeah.
Speaker 2: And tape out there, because the Harris is the third
Speaker 2: year guy, and you know, and Tim Jones's second year guy.
Speaker 4: What about the other guys that have flashed receiver? Some
Speaker 4: of those guys, remember.
Speaker 5: Eighty four of the big guy Cooks, Elijah Cooks. He's
Speaker 5: an interesting one to me. He's a big old dude
Speaker 5: and good hands and physical.
Speaker 4: So what Okay, So maybe one guy there, But I
Speaker 4: don't think there's really many surprises for us. That's actually
Speaker 4: a good thing. I think when you don't have that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Tony, In the past, you'd
Speaker 4: always say, well, this guy, these two three can make it,
Speaker 4: but this guy can't. You know. Now it's pretty much
Speaker 4: cut and dried, and I think that tells you that's
Speaker 4: a good football team.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, there were definitely a much better team than they
Speaker 5: were at most places. I don't think everywhere I don't
Speaker 5: think their rush is as good as it was last
Speaker 5: year with arden Key and Want Smooth Healthy. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think most places they're better
Speaker 5: than they've been for a long time.
Speaker 4: If if Photocassi and Hamilton can't play this week, which
Speaker 4: is all probability, how will they start up front?
Speaker 2: If Peterson said they're both out anyway this week already?
Speaker 4: Oh he did, I don't hear him say that. Okay,
Speaker 4: so they're out, So who starts? Because you're working with
Speaker 4: the ones who would be working. Goats would be one
Speaker 4: of them, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think?
Speaker 5: I mean, do you start Lacey at at one technique
Speaker 5: knows give him reps?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe would draft pick No, I.
Speaker 6: Would start Lacey the practice squad.
Speaker 4: We talked about him before the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he makes it, So let's put
Speaker 5: Lacey out there. I again, let me say one for
Speaker 5: the fifth time, JP, he's not listening to you.
Speaker 6: I know you think this is your show, JP.
Speaker 2: Coast Week.
Speaker 5: Give him credits to people that Pete and I have
Speaker 5: made a list on a piece of paper to replace
Speaker 5: you with.
Speaker 6: If you don't get your ass straight and got act
Speaker 6: like at your show.
Speaker 4: By the way, JP. I heard him say put Lacey
Speaker 4: get lazy shot five times and you didn't even acknowledge
Speaker 4: I heard it.
Speaker 2: I heard it every time. I'm just going through other names.
Speaker 2: It could be possibilities.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's a way to do that.
Speaker 6: JP.
Speaker 5: You can say, Okay, you think it's Lacey, any chance
Speaker 5: it could be any of these other guys.
Speaker 6: Not just ignoring what I said.
Speaker 2: I was acknowledging.
Speaker 6: Wait, why don't you take a break, JP, get a
Speaker 6: cup of coffee?
Speaker 5: Pete, I got it could be led better to Tony
Speaker 5: exactly what are you?
Speaker 2: What is that yelling at him?
Speaker 4: He at least acknowledges this his thought on it.
Speaker 6: But Pete, I agree with you.
Speaker 5: But don't you want to see what the work he
Speaker 5: can do with the starters out there?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I would, I would, I would. I'd play lazy.
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 6: Not Eddie lazy? J Tyler.
Speaker 2: Hey, you're the one who brought that up, not me,
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 4: But I mean, do you how long are they going
Speaker 4: to play the starters?
Speaker 6: Half?
Speaker 2: A couple.
Speaker 4: A lot of football? Why you wouldn't you played a
Speaker 4: third preseason game and you had to come out after
Speaker 4: half to get a sense for what that feels.
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, because I didn't know. I've never done that before.
Speaker 4: Everybody in the league did it. Everybody did it.
Speaker 2: Real halftime adjustments, right, great, I.
Speaker 5: Never quite got that one basically what that was in
Speaker 5: the preseason tom yelling at us that we didn't do
Speaker 5: good enough in the first half, ripping us and telling
Speaker 5: us to go back out there.
Speaker 4: But you agree with me in this that I think
Speaker 4: starters should play a sum in this game, not just
Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, but all across the league because you're gonna
Speaker 4: go three weeks without a month without playing.
Speaker 5: Any football and limited the limited full pad reps you
Speaker 5: get in the practice field too, so you're not gonna
Speaker 5: have a lot of contact between the last preseason game
Speaker 5: and opening day.
Speaker 6: So I do think it's something you should go. I
Speaker 6: like Doug's approach half. I think it's good. Yeah, there's risk,
Speaker 6: there's risking everything. Heck that Devon Hamilton got hurt with
Speaker 6: no football.
Speaker 4: Right and and guys get hurt on the practice field
Speaker 4: all the time. Guys get hurt, you know, running drills,
Speaker 4: they plant, and I mean no it absolutely play them.
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in this week especially guys should
Speaker 4: around the league should play because they got to hit.
Speaker 4: You got to hit somebody.
Speaker 2: Are the Dolphins gonna play, Pete?
Speaker 4: They played guys in this this past week too, so
Speaker 4: I would imagine they will. I haven't heard, but I
Speaker 4: would imagine they will.
Speaker 6: I can find out you live down there.
Speaker 4: Again. It goes that back to if you if you
Speaker 4: don't play the third preseason game, you got week, you
Speaker 4: got four weeks? No was it three full weeks? Four
Speaker 4: full weeks without hitting somebody that matters? And if you
Speaker 4: didn't play this second one, like you just say that
Speaker 4: Jacksonville didn't play their starters. Those guys wouldn't have played
Speaker 4: barely at all except for the first week. And then
Speaker 4: you go play a game in five and a half
Speaker 4: what six weeks after that? That makes no sense. Gotta play?
Speaker 4: Would you have wanted to play?
Speaker 6: I wanted to know.
Speaker 4: Would you have realized that it was good for you
Speaker 4: to play?
Speaker 6: I'm being honest, Bete.
Speaker 5: I felt like two weeks of practice won you know,
Speaker 5: half of a preseason game.
Speaker 6: I'm ready to go play.
Speaker 4: From a But you don't tackle either, though? Don't you
Speaker 4: think tackling?
Speaker 6: Though I only did.
Speaker 5: I only do the hardest thing on the field, block
Speaker 5: of far superior acts go backwards by myself.
Speaker 6: No, I don't need I mean, that was the dumbest
Speaker 6: thing I've ever heard tackling.
Speaker 4: So you told me when I was there that you
Speaker 4: were ready to go in the way they play office.
Speaker 4: Now you could do it right now.
Speaker 5: Two hundred and sixty, I was talking to Press Taylor
Speaker 5: about uh and the way Press Taylor and Doug has
Speaker 5: designed this offense is so offensive line friendly, Like they
Speaker 5: never just straight drop back on first or second down
Speaker 5: unless it's like second and eight plus, they like they
Speaker 5: are always moving the pocket.
Speaker 6: There's always some action in the backfield.
Speaker 5: And even when they do straight back drop back, it's
Speaker 5: like the balls out of Trevor's hand. They getting these
Speaker 5: empty sets, They've scats. It's a quick game, like like one.
Speaker 4: Of the head coach in the NFL. Oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 4: soon impressed. I love the way they designed the offense.
Speaker 4: And I think he has that same kind of mentality
Speaker 4: as brother. He's just I think he If Trevor has
Speaker 4: the kind of season I predicted he would have and
Speaker 4: this team has the kind of season I predicted you have,
Speaker 4: Press Taylor might be a head coach next year.
Speaker 6: Yes, he is. Really good.
Speaker 5: And I'm just telling you, and you know, obviously I
Speaker 5: was being facetious. Where I can go play right now.
Speaker 2: The only Hall of Famer ever to come out of
Speaker 2: retirement and go play again.
Speaker 5: About playing, My point was, my whole point was though,
Speaker 5: the way that they have designed this offense is so
Speaker 5: friendly that and I'm gonna go do I'll do it
Speaker 5: one of these games in the regular season. I bet
Speaker 5: it's I bet you it's only a handful of times.
Speaker 6: You're in a very difficult situation when.
Speaker 5: You're one on one and you know, you know you're
Speaker 5: getting no help and you're by yourself.
Speaker 4: So I think the design of the offense and a
Speaker 4: lot of the offense is now in this league, Tony,
Speaker 4: they make it easy on the on the offensive line.
Speaker 5: Well, you have to pete because one the defenders are
Speaker 5: I mean, they were like this. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 5: let's call it what it is. They're better athletes than
Speaker 5: the guys that were trying. You know, I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm a pretty good athlete.
Speaker 6: It was good at what I did.
Speaker 5: But I knew when I went and faced you know,
Speaker 5: Derrick Thomas or Bruce Smith or Jason Taylor.
Speaker 6: Any of these guys that they were some of the
Speaker 6: top athletes on their entire team, in the entire world,
Speaker 6: and so you gotta go. You gotta That's why I.
Speaker 5: Think playing offensive line is as much between the ears
Speaker 5: as anything else.
Speaker 6: It's it's a thinking man's position. I think your way
Speaker 6: through it for yourself, you know, put yourself in a position.
Speaker 5: That puts them in the mind as many times as
Speaker 5: you can, and I think the offense helps do that.
Speaker 5: With all that said, back to the original point, I'll
Speaker 5: tell you this, I didn't need six weeks of two
Speaker 5: days and four preseason games to be ready to play
Speaker 5: an NFL game now. But it's not just but this
Speaker 5: is what we miss all the time. It's not just
Speaker 5: about Tony Decelli or you know said player, because there's
Speaker 5: veterans on this team. I guarantee you Brandon Sheriff.
Speaker 6: Is ready to go play a regular season game right now,
Speaker 6: right this second.
Speaker 5: If you roll them out and said you gotta play
Speaker 5: four quarters against Chris Jones this week, he'd be ready
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 4: Did you need did you practices a handful?
Speaker 6: Because I need to.
Speaker 5: I need I needed to feel the.
Speaker 6: The shock, the pain.
Speaker 5: I need to get my get some calim is built out,
Speaker 5: built up.
Speaker 4: So how many padded practices that they had?
Speaker 6: Very many? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: They had to row and they had to take three
Speaker 2: days off. That's the rule.
Speaker 4: At one that was like, yeah, they probably if I
Speaker 4: had a grand total of.
Speaker 2: Six or seven somewhere in there.
Speaker 4: Maybe you guys had that many in a week.
Speaker 2: They only did one in Detroit. They only did one
Speaker 2: in Detroit.
Speaker 6: We had we did eight in the first first four days.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You had that many in a week.
Speaker 6: Less than a week the week we were there.
Speaker 4: Since you're coming back, are they do they still have
Speaker 4: your size nine helmet in the equipment?
Speaker 6: I was a seven and seven eight.
Speaker 4: That is a lie lie lie on the top of
Speaker 4: your head. You're not strapping it in like a helmet.
Speaker 6: But I'm going back. I'm going back to my point
Speaker 6: Pete before we go to bar I how many you know?
Speaker 5: But it's it's not about the individual player part of
Speaker 5: the preseason and why you need these reps is to
Speaker 5: get everyone on the same page, operating as a unit,
Speaker 5: you know, getting in out of the huddle, getting on
Speaker 5: the snap, let the quarterback read things, communicate the play
Speaker 5: change you know, timing.
Speaker 6: I mean, those are all important things that you need
Speaker 6: reps to do. So it's less about.
Speaker 5: The individual player, in my opinion, it's the overall where
Speaker 5: you are as a team. And that's what I heard
Speaker 5: Doug say. You only can get so much out of
Speaker 5: it in practice. It's when you go on the field.
Speaker 5: The coaches are on the sideline, it's Trevor and the
Speaker 5: ten other guys in the huddle. You call the play,
Speaker 5: you're making the changes, you're communicating, you're seeing at full speed,
Speaker 5: you're making adjustments on the fly. That's what I think
Speaker 5: Doug's talking about. And that's the valuable, valuable part of
Speaker 5: camp and preseason.
Speaker 4: The ones got a ton of work in Detroit, though,
Speaker 4: they got a lot of work in those but again,
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks not getting hit, the receivers aren't getting blasted,
Speaker 4: and the running back is getting popped going through the line.
Speaker 4: So it's it's still different, still not the same.
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Speaker 2: How concerned are you about the injuries of Patakasi and
Speaker 2: Hamilton and should they bring in additional help?
Speaker 5: Mother, First, I am very concerned, one because Von Hamilton's
Speaker 5: had a great camp and he's a very important part
Speaker 5: Potocosi's you know, a guy you're counting on. I think
Speaker 5: the interior three to be really good. Add worry Robertson
Speaker 5: Harrison to that, because they are We're gonna have to
Speaker 5: push the pocket, You're gonna have to stop the want run.
Speaker 5: You know, winning on first and second downs critical playing
Speaker 5: defense in this league. Trying to create those long situation
Speaker 5: yard of situations. I would have said before this past week,
Speaker 5: when injuries propped up, they were a strength of the team.
Speaker 6: And now you look at.
Speaker 5: The unknown of the Von Hamilton, we have no idea
Speaker 5: what the back is. You get into a little bit
Speaker 5: of a patterned with Photocosi because it's not forget he
Speaker 5: had the cap injury last year and missed time. It
Speaker 5: really wasn't himself all year because he couldn't really push
Speaker 5: off with that with that with the cap injury, so
Speaker 5: both are very concerned. To be JP, do you bring
Speaker 5: someone in? I think you got to kick the tires
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 4: I would. I would definitely look for somebody. I would
Speaker 4: look for a big body and then Keem Hicks, I'd
Speaker 4: bring him in and look at him. If he's too heavy,
Speaker 4: he send him home. If he if he's in shape
Speaker 4: and he's willing to play, sign him to a deal.
Speaker 4: I just think you got to be prepared as if
Speaker 4: those two guys aren't going to be there. I mean
Speaker 4: they probably will be. You hope they will be, but
Speaker 4: you have to prepare for it. And if they open
Speaker 4: the season with those two guys not in the lineup,
Speaker 4: against the Colts, so you know when Jonathan Taylor is
Speaker 4: back there, and he'll be back there. They want to
Speaker 4: run the ball, and so you got to have big
Speaker 4: bodies up there, and I don't right now, I don't
Speaker 4: think that they could get by with what they have
Speaker 4: and be comfortable with that. So I would explore a
Speaker 4: big body.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money in those big three guys
Speaker 2: up front, by the way, Fantacostia in year two of
Speaker 2: a three year thirty million dollar contract, Hamilton year one
Speaker 2: of a three year, three thirty four and a half
Speaker 2: million dollar contract, Roy Robertson Harris year two of a
Speaker 2: three year twenty one million dollar contract. So they've they
Speaker 2: never spent some money.
Speaker 5: There if you think about them, they're not really high
Speaker 5: paid today's NFL now, having three guys at that, we're
Speaker 5: all at that kind of called mid level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you've definitely invested money in that. I'm not I'm
Speaker 6: not saying you're wrong about your overall investment, but.
Speaker 5: I mean you you think of like the top end
Speaker 5: guys or the top five, they're all getting worth of
Speaker 5: twenty even nowadays, and so I think your point is
Speaker 5: right about overall investment. Hell and Garon Donald makes more
Speaker 5: than all of them combined.
Speaker 2: But it's a different, different level, right, I mean you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hamilton, I mean, Hamilton's tied for twenty second
Speaker 4: highest paid defensive lineman.
Speaker 6: That's my point. Pete not high paid.
Speaker 4: No, Photocosi's twenty six and.
Speaker 5: Robern and Harrison, who might be the by the way,
Speaker 5: why might be the best of all of them, And
Speaker 5: he's the last least paid.
Speaker 6: He's at a great camp. He has been dominant physically.
Speaker 4: And he was really good at the beginning of last year,
Speaker 4: tailed off in the middle and played really well down
Speaker 4: the stretch. So yeah, but you're right in the grand
Speaker 4: scheme of things. I mean, if you look at it,
Speaker 4: Aaron Donald makes thirty one million dollars a year.
Speaker 6: He makes more than all of them put together.
Speaker 2: It's probably not enough. I mean, you can pay it more, right.
Speaker 4: But again, you can go get a big body guy
Speaker 4: and try and get it. That's what I would do, Tony.
Speaker 4: You know, there's always those guys hanging around that ready
Speaker 4: to come in, and they can play short spurts, they
Speaker 4: can't play long periods of time.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sure, I don't disagree with you. I mean
Speaker 5: I have no idea what a keen ticks. A keen
Speaker 5: hicks is mental physical.
Speaker 6: Like if you want to play, is he healthy? Is
Speaker 6: he a shape? I mean?
Speaker 5: And then I'm sure there's other guys too. I don't
Speaker 5: think you make that decision, Pete. Right now, let's see
Speaker 5: where POTACOSTI. I think they're confident will be ready.
Speaker 6: I think the unknown, And it's hard for us to
Speaker 6: even speculate. We don't know what Devon Hamilton's dealing.
Speaker 5: With outside of general back. It's non football related and
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2: And I don't think they really know the full extent yet.
Speaker 2: You know, they're just kind of waiting to see how
Speaker 2: this thing goes.
Speaker 5: So JP can't be you gotta be snooping around there,
Speaker 5: kind of getting the insights.
Speaker 2: So what I need to do? Go snoop around? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that would be good for any of us.
Speaker 2: Know where I mean?
Speaker 5: Well, because even if we knew JP, we couldn't say anything, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why what's the point?
Speaker 6: All right?
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Speaker 6: The other day I've given up. Hey, Jay, do we
Speaker 6: have time I got. I want to talk about Roy
Speaker 6: a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did plenty of We talk so much about
Speaker 5: the great I just don't want to have to put
Speaker 5: a break. Just tell me to shut up, and we do.
Speaker 5: Devaugh has had a great camp. You know, Potocosi, when
Speaker 5: he's healthy, I think is a very good player. I
Speaker 5: think we are under selling Roy Robertson Harris and it's
Speaker 5: your point, Pete. He kind of tailed off in the middle.
Speaker 5: But when he's good, he I mean, he's one of
Speaker 5: the most powerful human beings on this team, and he
Speaker 5: is so physical and he just overwhelms guys at times,
Speaker 5: and I boy, if he could put it together a
Speaker 5: seventeen game season where he is at that planet, that
Speaker 5: consistent level, he's an amazing he's he helps him a lot,
Speaker 5: and he'll help Josh Allen and Draymond Walker because of
Speaker 5: the pushing of the pocket and there's crew. He does
Speaker 5: such a good job with that that it'll give those
Speaker 5: other guys more sack opportunities because the quarterback can't step.
Speaker 4: Up and those guys are going to need better sack opportunity.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a big year for those guys.
Speaker 4: Let's be real for both of them. For both we don't.
Speaker 5: Talk an It's bigger for Josh only because it's a
Speaker 5: contract year.
Speaker 4: But it's also a walker It's it's.
Speaker 5: It's important for walking around. What's the narrative going to
Speaker 5: be around as player?
Speaker 4: Correct? But but Josh Allen from a money standpoint, if
Speaker 4: he goes out and gets thirteen fourteen sacks, they got
Speaker 4: to they gotta keep them.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's it's from an overall career standpoint.
Speaker 5: I know Josh wants to be here. He loves Jacksonville,
Speaker 5: he loves the organization, he loves the fan base. You know,
Speaker 5: his family's here. And I mean personally, I root the
Speaker 5: root for the guy because I love everything about who
Speaker 5: he is as an individual. But at the end of
Speaker 5: the day, it comes down to the business and if
Speaker 5: you want to be here, you gotta go put up
Speaker 5: double digit sack numbers.
Speaker 4: If he has eight sacks as he come back next year, I.
Speaker 5: Don't I don't think so, no, unless unless he wants
Speaker 5: to sell for because if he gets eight zacks. Somebody
Speaker 5: will pay him a bunch of money, right and Freeze.
Speaker 5: They won't Jack, the Jags won't because it won't be
Speaker 5: able to.
Speaker 6: I mean, everyone has to keep this in mind.
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence does what we all believe he's gonna do
Speaker 5: and what he's capable of doing, and who he is
Speaker 5: as a player. I mean, this is not just potential.
Speaker 5: This is just like how good he is. They're gonna
Speaker 5: have to pay him fifty five to sixty million dollars
Speaker 5: a year next year, correct, And so you gotta make it.
Speaker 4: And if he does that, m because you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 4: You gotta assume that if he's having that kind of year,
Speaker 4: then Ridley's having that Gundy.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, you can pay you can pay both of
Speaker 5: them be But then you got to make decisions with
Speaker 5: Kirk and other guys.
Speaker 2: Oh I already did that for next year, because you
Speaker 2: can make it, right, if you're paying Lawrence, you can
Speaker 2: make it where the big money is a few years
Speaker 2: down the line, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can all get creative with it. If you
Speaker 4: want to make it work. Can make it work. But again,
Speaker 4: for Josh Allen, if he has eight sacks, probably not
Speaker 4: coming back if he has thirteen sacks, probably doing everything
Speaker 4: you can to get him back. So it doesn't sound
Speaker 4: like much, but five sacks going from eight to thirteen
Speaker 4: is a significant number for a guy like him.
Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing you got to think about it.
Speaker 5: If Lawrence goes off, which means Ridley probably goes off,
Speaker 5: and Josh Allen goes off, now you start getting I
Speaker 5: don't care how creative you are, your accounting principles and
Speaker 5: how you move things around, it still gets.
Speaker 6: Tight paying three guys.
Speaker 5: Now, the good news is we have an owner who
Speaker 5: has plenty of cash, so it's not a cash issue
Speaker 5: as far as signing bonuses and stuff like.
Speaker 4: That, where it's for other teams with cash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been an issue for some of the other
Speaker 5: owners as far as having the cash to pay guys.
Speaker 6: You know, Shot has proven.
Speaker 5: I mean just look at everything he's done since he's
Speaker 5: been here, whether it's paying players or building facilities and hotels.
Speaker 5: I mean, he can afford it, and he wants to
Speaker 5: be great. But at some point the CBA and the
Speaker 5: cap comes into play. And I'm not an expert like
Speaker 5: the guys that are in the building that think about
Speaker 5: this all day. Long, But can you get three franchise players?
Speaker 5: You know, pass Rusher one of the highest paid positions.
Speaker 5: Receiver has eclipsed a lot of other positions on a roster.
Speaker 5: Now as far as being high paid, that wasn't always
Speaker 5: the case. And your quarterback, who is the guy who
Speaker 5: gets all the money? Can you go pay those three
Speaker 5: guys in one year and make it work with the cap?
Speaker 5: And what are the casualties that happened? Now here's the thing.
Speaker 5: If we are talking about that next year going in,
Speaker 5: we're probably talking about it after we were in Vegas for.
Speaker 6: The week at Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Correct, you're talking about a team that went deep at
Speaker 4: least into.
Speaker 6: The postseason or deep or yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, because if Josh Allen is thirteen, that means Trayvon
Speaker 4: Walker is going to have twelve because you already told
Speaker 4: the world they're going to have twenty five the game there.
Speaker 2: That adds up.
Speaker 5: I do believe the official I think the official statement
Speaker 5: was twenty three to twenty five.
Speaker 4: Oh you amended it from what I heard?
Speaker 6: No, No, I did not.
Speaker 5: It was on the same show It's not my fault
Speaker 5: at ten ten and Franngie and Prosser and Hicken and
Speaker 5: all the other guys over there, edit me and don't
Speaker 5: tell the truth.
Speaker 6: There might be a lossuit coming news.
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, You're gonna suit you suit him?
Speaker 4: Now, that's great. I might Okay, so my chance to
Speaker 4: mend amend it.
Speaker 2: Why don't you call him out on their air right
Speaker 2: now to the I might.
Speaker 6: Just I might just see Franzi so we make them
Speaker 6: booth more interesting during the regular season.
Speaker 4: You whole season between you and Francie. Okay, So okay,
Speaker 4: amended that. How many are they gonna have?
Speaker 6: Twenty three, twenty five? I'm not gonna change it. That's
Speaker 6: what I said.
Speaker 4: Ah, that's a high. That's a big number, Tony. Have
Speaker 4: the Jaguars. Has Jacksonville ever had two guys that combined
Speaker 4: for twenty three sacks in a season?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: The the year Klaas had sixteen or whatever he had.
Speaker 4: And then got back and had nine or ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Have they ever had two edge players combined from twenty
Speaker 4: three to twenty five?
Speaker 6: The answer is no.
Speaker 4: No, you're you're really really optimistic about those two.
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, Bee, there's a part of me that
Speaker 6: wants it to happen. So it's I'm being influenced out of.
Speaker 5: The biases towards rooting for them and wanting to believe
Speaker 5: I'm right.
Speaker 6: But I agree with you, it's gonna if.
Speaker 5: I was, if someone, if someone, you know, I would
Speaker 5: not be surprised if everyone in the country bedded on
Speaker 5: the under of the number I gave, and I could.
Speaker 5: It would be hard to argue because I don't have
Speaker 5: a lot of empirical proof, especially after camp in the
Speaker 5: early preseason that says that's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Are you worried about two Russia the past right now?
Speaker 4: After camp?
Speaker 6: You are? I was very worried.
Speaker 5: And then I watched him up into the right and
Speaker 5: I thought Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker took it to
Speaker 5: Panay Sewell and Taylor Becker.
Speaker 4: I did too.
Speaker 6: I was like, after what I saw.
Speaker 5: Walker, Little Anton, Harrison, Harrison, due to our rushers, I'm like,
Speaker 5: Sewell and Taylor Becker gonna just beat us up. And
Speaker 5: I thought Trayvon and Josh really won the day. And
Speaker 5: I don't want to, I mean, dominating might be a
Speaker 5: little bit of a stretch, but they had their way
Speaker 5: and got pressure of one of They won in the
Speaker 5: one on one drills they had, they had really good
Speaker 5: pressure on golf, they squeezed the pocket, they would have
Speaker 5: got a couple of sacks.
Speaker 4: And Sewell is a big time tackle too. He's a
Speaker 4: good player. You know, he is a pretty good player
Speaker 4: KG veteran. Yeah, that's not that's a good sign. That's
Speaker 4: a really good sign. And by the way, this week
Speaker 4: the Miami won't have Armstead and the right tackle. Your
Speaker 4: former USC guy has had some moments of real problems.
Speaker 4: He was better the other day though, and I think
Speaker 4: that could be an opportunity for them to show pressure
Speaker 4: and get after the quarterback a little bit.
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Speaker 3: I thought Walker did a nice job at left guard.
Speaker 3: He looked comfortable in there. You know, he's a big body.
Speaker 3: He moved well. We wanted to see him, so we
Speaker 3: set up a couple of runs where he could pull
Speaker 3: just a little bit, and so we wanted to see that.
Speaker 3: And you know, loved his physicality in there. You know,
Speaker 3: Cam probably not his best game, you know, I felt
Speaker 3: like he was on the ground a little bit too
Speaker 3: much and got beat a little bit. For somebody at
Speaker 3: his caliber, he should, you know, he should play better.
Speaker 2: He knows that.
Speaker 3: He understands that the guys come in today and get
Speaker 3: a chance to watch the tape with the coaches and
Speaker 3: make those corrections. But it was good to see both
Speaker 3: of those guys together though, and see the communication, the
Speaker 3: dialogue that those two had during the game, and you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully that sets us up for things to come.
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Speaker 2: up with. Question one at treil Will ninety two, Gregory
Speaker 2: Junior deserves to get some run with the ones at
Speaker 2: Nickel cornerback. Agree.
Speaker 6: I mean I think he's they've tried him.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's got an opportunities, and I think right now,
Speaker 5: Trey's held them off at this point.
Speaker 4: They're just comfortable with Trey. I think that's that's part
Speaker 4: of it. You know what you get with them. You
Speaker 4: don't know what you're gonna get with a younger guy.
Speaker 4: So I think they're more comfortable with Trey.
Speaker 6: I'd agree with you.
Speaker 2: He's been part of three takeaways, one of those unspecial teams.
Speaker 2: That helps, right, But like we've talked about before, it's
Speaker 2: more you got to be able to cover, right.
Speaker 4: Didn't he recover that fumble on special teams and nothing
Speaker 4: when he recovers? Yes, yeah, that doesn't nothing for me.
Speaker 4: I'd rather see a guy cover. I'd rather see a
Speaker 4: guy cover a guy, a man and man across the field,
Speaker 4: which Trey Herndon doesn't do very well.
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna play a lot of man
Speaker 5: this year, Pete.
Speaker 4: No, but you gotta admit when he gets caught in
Speaker 4: those man in man situations, he has problems with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I don't think they're gonna play much
Speaker 5: because I think Ultimately, Trey's gonna be your starting corner
Speaker 5: when you roll out against the Colts on opening the day.
Speaker 4: If they if you played Antonio Johnson at that nickel,
Speaker 4: I don't think you could play a ton of man
Speaker 4: the man with him right away either. If he got
Speaker 4: matched up with a receiver, that'd be a problem.
Speaker 5: He can roll out, though, Pete he I mean, I
Speaker 5: agree with his a real shifty change direction, quick guy.
Speaker 6: That might be a little bit of a concern. But
Speaker 6: he can run. He can move now. But he's a rookie,
Speaker 6: see it. So I'm with you. I agree with you.
Speaker 2: Next question at Samuel ab Duval, can you explain the
Speaker 2: new NFL rule concerning keeping three quarterbacks on the roster?
Speaker 2: Are we in jeopardy of losing Rourke if designated the
Speaker 2: third quarterback going into the season. So the basic rule is,
Speaker 2: the teams who are carrying two quarterbacks on their active
Speaker 2: roster on game day may carry a third emergency quarterback
Speaker 2: who does not count against the team's game day roster.
Speaker 2: So basically, you can have him up with no penalty
Speaker 2: on game day he is part of the fifty three.
Speaker 2: The emergency quarterback will not be allowed into the game
Speaker 2: unless the two active quarterbacks are injured or disqualified from
Speaker 2: the game, and that emergency quarterback must be removed from
Speaker 2: the game if either quarterback is medically cleared to return
Speaker 2: to play. So there you go, but you.
Speaker 4: Have to keep him on the roster. And me and
Speaker 4: Tony don't think he's going to be on the roster.
Speaker 4: He'll be on the practice squad, right.
Speaker 6: I agree?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the simple by JP explained, it perfectly
Speaker 5: impacts the fifty three man roster. If the counter towards
Speaker 5: that does not count against the active game day roster,
Speaker 5: you can have an extra player.
Speaker 6: If it's a quarterback.
Speaker 4: It's the forty nine ers rule in the playoff game.
Speaker 6: That's why I think that's right, exactly right.
Speaker 2: But if it comes down to that, I mean, in
Speaker 2: most instances, your toast anyway, right, well.
Speaker 5: Your toast with JP with they don't want to happen
Speaker 5: is what happened against the forty nine ers, where you
Speaker 5: have two quarterbacks hurt and you literally can't even function
Speaker 5: as an offense because you have no one back there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or like when Kendall Hinton had to play for
Speaker 4: the Broncos back.
Speaker 2: In the day.
Speaker 4: You don't want any of that. Tom Maddy played quarterback
Speaker 4: for the Colt Smith's way back in the day, and
Speaker 4: he had to have the plays.
Speaker 2: He was the first one. He was the first one
Speaker 2: that had the plays on his wrist. That wristband is
Speaker 2: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't know what he didn't know any of
Speaker 4: the plays here. This is a legitimate question why we're
Speaker 4: talking about the back of court. Has Nathan Rourke played
Speaker 4: better than Bether?
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean just as far as on the field.
Speaker 4: Right if okay, so Tony, if it didn't have anything
Speaker 4: to do with the guy being in the room and
Speaker 4: being a veteran and can handle and help the quarterback,
Speaker 4: would you keep Rourke or would you keep Bether?
Speaker 6: I keep Beth because he has a bigger sample size.
Speaker 5: Work has only done he's done at the Canadian level.
Speaker 4: He was good in the Football League man a ton
Speaker 4: of his games.
Speaker 6: He's still a very young player. Beth is a known commodity.
Speaker 5: You're counting on that guy only to come in and
Speaker 5: everything hit the fan, And so I probably would not.
Speaker 6: And here's what we don't know. Just watching the tape,
Speaker 6: I would say Work has.
Speaker 5: Played better, But I don't know if he's going through
Speaker 5: the right read. How much of the offense does he command,
Speaker 5: like the what's the mental acuity that he has compared
Speaker 5: to Beth third of comprehending stuff, you know, making those
Speaker 5: right reads.
Speaker 6: Reading coverages and all that. You and I don't know that.
Speaker 6: It's hard for us to make that.
Speaker 5: But I hasn't played that well, I mean, he hasn't
Speaker 5: played bad and fine.
Speaker 4: Average, which is probably I would I keep Would I
Speaker 4: keep Rourke though? But I'd keep them on the practice
Speaker 4: squad for sure?
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's simple. That's a dumb answer. Would you
Speaker 6: keep this? Okay?
Speaker 4: Would you keep three? No, particularly with the offensive line
Speaker 4: of defensive line injuries, there's no way.
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a wild question is and this
Speaker 2: is going to be a dumb one. So get ready
Speaker 2: on the practice just his development? Would he be better
Speaker 2: on the practice squad or playing back in the CFL
Speaker 2: or another league?
Speaker 6: Again, no practice squad.
Speaker 2: How many true reps will he get at quarterback on
Speaker 2: a practice.
Speaker 4: Well, he'll get he'll get scout team raps, He'll run
Speaker 4: scout team, be in, get in, get on a franchise,
Speaker 4: get in as.
Speaker 2: System, getting the pipeline, and maybe you.
Speaker 5: Move the pipeline, and he has to have a long
Speaker 5: view because if you can, if he makes practice squad
Speaker 5: does a good job this year going into next year,
Speaker 5: then it's a real competition for the backup.
Speaker 4: Well, he looks tiny. How big is he listed at?
Speaker 2: He has listed at six one, two ten. I believe
Speaker 2: he's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can rip it though, he can rip the ball, and.
Speaker 5: He's a gutty guy. He's one of those guys. He
Speaker 5: just finds a way to buy time and he's interesting.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't is he Is he as sharp?
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about making the right reads and
Speaker 4: go to progressions. That's where yeah, ruck Perty is very
Speaker 4: good at that.
Speaker 2: All right, Next question at ste Winters. With the overall
Speaker 2: depth performing well in the first two preseason games. On
Speaker 2: the offensive defense, who do you see contributing most in
Speaker 2: a rotation basis on the interior D line and defensive backfield.
Speaker 2: So D line and defensive backs.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, I think it's and Lacy on the
Speaker 5: defense the interior on the interior D line, you want
Speaker 5: to include pass rushers, you're gonna I mean, I think
Speaker 5: Duance move when he gets back second half of the year.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to play five. You're gonna have to
Speaker 4: play eight games, seven games with without him, So who's.
Speaker 6: The second thing you're gonna have to get something out of?
Speaker 6: Chase On I think he ends up being your third
Speaker 6: pass rusher.
Speaker 4: And then what was the other part of that question
Speaker 4: was the secondary secondary?
Speaker 6: I have no idea rotation.
Speaker 4: When he's healthy Johnson right, when he's healthy, But.
Speaker 6: He's not healthy, I'm saying it's to be I mean,
Speaker 6: I I think, how bad is his injury to hammy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a tweak or pull.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've heard it's going to be
Speaker 5: an exten extensive amount of time, so it's a bad handy.
Speaker 6: They didn't say bad handy, but.
Speaker 5: Based on the time frame they gave, it sounds like
Speaker 5: it's something okay.
Speaker 4: So then there's there's no youth in that secondary unless
Speaker 4: they decide to go in another direction at the nickel corner.
Speaker 5: Yep, I think it's I think it's just I think
Speaker 5: it's the same starting five you had last year when
Speaker 5: you were done.
Speaker 6: With the season.
Speaker 4: I think Braswell is an interesting player, though I think
Speaker 4: he gets better as as it gets as he keeps
Speaker 4: playing more. The question with him is can he run
Speaker 4: well enough?
Speaker 6: Well, it's the same question you have with Trey Herdon. Well,
Speaker 6: actually know the answer to that. You can't put man.
Speaker 4: He can't play man.
Speaker 2: Next question at unders p W three Underscore. If someone
Speaker 2: told you only one person from this draft class would
Speaker 2: be an elite Pro Bowl player in years to come,
Speaker 2: who are you choosing and why?
Speaker 4: Anton Harrison?
Speaker 6: Harrison, Oh that's easy, Tony, Yeah, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 6: I was trying.
Speaker 5: I was going down the roster, but I think Anton
Speaker 5: Harrison will be a pro bowler.
Speaker 4: Okay, let me while we're talking about the rookie clusters.
Speaker 4: We haven't got there real quick. Tank Bixby is a
Speaker 4: good player. He needs to quick bouncing everything though, and
Speaker 4: just run sometimes. And that was a criticism of it all.
Speaker 4: That was a criticism of him at Auburn too. He's
Speaker 4: a physical runner. Just go go, Pete.
Speaker 5: I think he'll learn the hard you know, right now,
Speaker 5: he's getting outside, it's working and so until you know.
Speaker 5: But now when you get into the regular season, when
Speaker 5: you're playing top line guys with more speed on the field,
Speaker 5: I think that'll be more difficult for new and I
Speaker 5: think he'll learn.
Speaker 4: But you didn't you watch the tape of the game.
Speaker 4: I'm sure and you saw the game. There were moments
Speaker 4: where he had he had a running lane right in
Speaker 4: front of him and he decided to bounce. Now, you're right.
Speaker 4: He got outside and made a couple of plays, but
Speaker 4: then on one of those bounces out he got tackled
Speaker 4: for no gain. And I think he's just got to
Speaker 4: go because he's a physical runner. Just put your head
Speaker 4: down and go, put your goat between tackles.
Speaker 6: And that's what they like about him. It's a one
Speaker 6: cut downhill. I think they like you. You'll see a
Speaker 6: lot of inside inside zone with him.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's gonna have to learn to trust it
Speaker 5: inside because he definitely has the ability.
Speaker 6: He's a good runner.
Speaker 4: He's a good runner.
Speaker 2: One more question, final one at Dua Stan forty two eleven.
Speaker 2: What's holding the Jags front office back from going all
Speaker 2: in and trading for an elite edge rusher such as
Speaker 2: Khalil Macker Chandler Jones, a guy that would instantly make
Speaker 2: us better and potentially move Trayvon Walker to defensive tackle.
Speaker 4: Well, first off, Chandler Jones isn't an elite pass rusher.
Speaker 4: He's a good player. He didn't play that well last
Speaker 4: year was hurt and then Khalil Mack. There would the
Speaker 4: Chargers think they're good? Why are they gonna get rid
Speaker 4: of Khalil Mack?
Speaker 5: And you're not going to do it to your cap,
Speaker 5: You're not gonna do it. They because here's what, like
Speaker 5: everyone needs to realize this. They believe Traymon Walker is
Speaker 5: it outside Russia. They don't believe that he's a defensive tackle.
Speaker 5: And so until that changes, why would they go trade
Speaker 5: for a player to take time away from Traymon Walker
Speaker 5: and all like that?
Speaker 4: If you did, let's just say for the sake of
Speaker 4: the argument, they did go get Khalil Mack. Where's Travon
Speaker 4: Walker play? They kick him inside? They have to, right,
Speaker 4: he has.
Speaker 5: To kick That's I mean, it's it's that's a fun
Speaker 5: thing to talk about on radio.
Speaker 6: But it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 4: But in everybody in Jacksonville was all upset when they
Speaker 4: didn't get justin Houston. They didn't get who's the other one?
Speaker 4: They did Clowney, I mean Clowney in his two sacks.
Speaker 4: He's not an elite edge rusher.
Speaker 6: No, but Houston and Clowney would have been different. You're
Speaker 6: getting depth there.
Speaker 5: Those of they would have taken the role of an
Speaker 5: ardent Key.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: Not as good as ard and Key.
Speaker 6: But I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you
Speaker 6: that's what they would have got. Those guys with feet.
Speaker 4: But try and they try and kept, they try to
Speaker 4: keep Ardent Key and and he just decided to go
Speaker 4: to the I mean they made an legitimate offered Arden Key,
Speaker 4: they wanted to keep them around.
Speaker 6: I don't remember the economics. I'm sure you got more
Speaker 6: at Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Though not much more, though I don't think you have it.
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Speaker 3: I like it because we we get a chance to
Speaker 3: get through this week, you know, in preparation for for
Speaker 3: our final preseason game. There's still gonna be some some
Speaker 3: opportunities for our young players to play potentially here in
Speaker 3: the second half.
Speaker 2: And and there's.
Speaker 3: Still some ongoing you know, I think some some battles,
Speaker 3: some some competition that that you know, we need to
Speaker 3: see these guys in in in you know, real games.
Speaker 3: So h it is beneficial for everybody to practice. It
Speaker 3: gives us one more one more week here, you know,
Speaker 3: seven eight days, uh to to evaluate this team.
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, this morning, in a zoom
Speaker 2: call with the media, welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, final
Speaker 2: moments on this Monday afternoon and the band is back together.
Speaker 6: J P.
Speaker 2: Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony BISSELLI. It sounded good today, by the.
Speaker 6: Way, Yeah, really good.
Speaker 5: A shout out to Max and the whole team back
Speaker 5: there for working through the technical issues we had last week.
Speaker 6: New studio, a lot of changes going on, and.
Speaker 5: Uh, Max Reaber, you know, the whole team back there
Speaker 5: did a great job, all our engineers of getting us
Speaker 5: up and so thank you very much for the They
Speaker 5: put a lot of a lot of hours.
Speaker 6: And a lot of work into it. So good job.
Speaker 4: Guys and JP's in the fancy news studio over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh, it's nice, it's spacious. Uh, you
Speaker 2: guys aren't here though. I mean I got rooms.
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been in that one before.
Speaker 2: It's nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you interviewed me in there.
Speaker 2: I have yes, And Tony was in here. What was
Speaker 2: that last week? Two weeks ago?
Speaker 6: Tony, Yeah, two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. But at some point we got to get
Speaker 2: us all together in one room. When's that going to happen?
Speaker 2: I don't think that's.
Speaker 6: Well, when we do that, we got to go to
Speaker 6: the couch.
Speaker 2: You know what happened. Uh the time that could have happened,
Speaker 2: Tony decided to leave early.
Speaker 4: Pete. I think that's what happened. Here's when we'll do
Speaker 4: together the Monday in Vegas before the Superoo like that?
Speaker 6: Oh? I like that one.
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I like that a lot,
Speaker 2: a whole lot. All right, So preseason Week three starters
Speaker 2: are going a half or so, the Dolphins and the
Speaker 2: Jaguars coming up, and what else do you want to see?
Speaker 2: I mean, what what is a successful preseason Week three?
Speaker 2: Outside of everybody staying healthy? We know that obviously, what
Speaker 2: do you want to see Pete from the starters.
Speaker 4: I want to see Cam Robinson play better.
Speaker 6: I want to see I don't think he's starting, Pete.
Speaker 4: Well, he's not starting, but he's gonna play. He's gonna
Speaker 4: play what he does.
Speaker 6: Why don't you listen to the question, what do.
Speaker 4: You didn't ask about the starters?
Speaker 6: Yes, the game.
Speaker 5: He just asked the game starters, the starters, Pete, idiot?
Speaker 4: Okay, what do I want to see from the starters? Well,
Speaker 4: how do you know he's not starting? He might start
Speaker 4: at left tackle, he might start walker little at left guard.
Speaker 2: Ben Bart was probably getting time.
Speaker 4: This I want to see. I want to see the
Speaker 4: pass for us show up in a big way, knock
Speaker 4: the guy down, knock to it down a little bit.
Speaker 4: And don't you want to see how they handle the
Speaker 4: speed of those receivers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I agree with both those things. On defense,
Speaker 5: I want to see our secondary matchup. The big test
Speaker 5: is they got great receivers.
Speaker 6: They have a ton of speed.
Speaker 5: I want to see Trayvon and Josh dominate, like, be
Speaker 5: disruptive and then offensively, I want to see our offense, Hume,
Speaker 5: I want to see them in a rhythm, you know,
Speaker 5: staying on schedule. You know, I'd like to see two
Speaker 5: touchdowns in the first half.
Speaker 4: I think the offense. I think the offense has the
Speaker 4: potential to put at least ten points on in their
Speaker 4: first half. Maybe you're right, maybe two touchdowns. When you
Speaker 4: look at that offense, I think they're going to be
Speaker 4: dynamic this year. I really do. I think they're going
Speaker 4: to a chance to push for the lead the league
Speaker 4: in scoring. That's how good I think they can be.
Speaker 6: H You know, Okay, so this real quick.
Speaker 4: Anton Harrison can be better than Jawan Taylor. Yes or no? Yes,
Speaker 4: I would agree with you.
Speaker 6: He's more athletic than Juwan.
Speaker 4: You're correct. So if Walker Little and Anton Harrison are
Speaker 4: playing really well, they're just as good as the Chiefs tackles.
Speaker 4: Because Smith and Taylor there's they could be as good
Speaker 4: as those two. The problem is the interior of the
Speaker 4: Chiefs offensive line is outstanding.
Speaker 6: Very good.
Speaker 5: I mean, they're their center, right guard, and Tony's no
Speaker 5: slouch either.
Speaker 6: But their tier three pet are really good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacksonville's interior three could be good if they could
Speaker 4: solidify the left guard spot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, because I agree.
Speaker 4: Fortner takes his game to another level this year.
Speaker 6: But he's he as good as what's the kid's name.
Speaker 4: No, he's not as a Creed Humphrey.
Speaker 6: No, Creed Humphrey.
Speaker 5: And then Tray Smith on the right tag right guard good, yeah.
Speaker 6: Cooney is they just solid, like just every down, ready
Speaker 6: to go. Guy, they're good.
Speaker 4: They're good in the middle of that line.
Speaker 6: That's where they're very good.
Speaker 2: Pete, coming up for the game Saturday, you should no
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Man, it's your hometown team down there.
Speaker 4: And you know what when they say down here, Jacksonville
Speaker 4: is my hometown team. That's what they all say to me.
Speaker 4: I'm the mayor. They give me so much crap I
Speaker 4: make I make a pick just to make a pick,
Speaker 4: and they go, You're just hometown mayor. You know that
Speaker 4: kind of You actually have a graphic where I'm the
Speaker 4: mayor of Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Really can we get that? We got to be able
Speaker 2: to get that right.
Speaker 5: So Pete, now I know I feel about the years
Speaker 5: are doing the show, A few of you basically questioning
Speaker 5: every pick I make because I'm a Jaguar homer, so you.
Speaker 4: Never believed yours though. That's the difference. I believe mine.
Speaker 6: I believe mine I believe all mine the.
Speaker 4: Year what year were they like four wins and Tony
Speaker 4: said they were gonna win eleven games or something I missed.
Speaker 6: It's not that I didn't believe it.
Speaker 4: You didn't believe it because we talked golf air. You
Speaker 4: didn't believe it.
Speaker 6: You were just that's not true.
Speaker 4: Every lock I make, I believe you haven't made any locks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we only have one on the books. It's from Pete.
Speaker 6: I'm waiting, waiting.
Speaker 4: I made my lock.
Speaker 6: All the lock opening day.
Speaker 5: It might be, it might be I might bring it early,
Speaker 5: an early double lockout.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a that's a deep tease. We're a long
Speaker 2: way away from week one. That's Tony Maselli.
Speaker 4: Oh, it's only three weeks away.
Speaker 2: Cox Sick And that's Pete Prisco. Thanks for our entire crew,
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