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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twenty First, this is Jack Wars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours. Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Chechar and welcome in a Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday.

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Speaker 2: Preseason Week three is upon us. The Jaguars and the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins coming up this Saturday at EverBank Stadium. Plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to on today's show. The starters will play

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Speaker 2: in preseason week number three. Get ready to see them

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Speaker 2: for probably a couple of quarters. Some injuries and the

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Speaker 2: trenches on both sides of the ball after the trip

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Speaker 2: to Detroit. We'll keep it real as we always do

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Speaker 2: with Pete and Tony and yes, your final expand questions.

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Speaker 2: That's all in the second hour tonight on what should

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Speaker 2: be a busy Monday. Jaguars head coach Doug Peterson this morning.

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Speaker 2: Some injuries adding up in the trenches as we mentioned

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Speaker 2: up in Detroit, but he's not changing his strategy about

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Speaker 2: playing the starters this week.

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Speaker 3: I can't really worry too much about who gets hurt

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Speaker 3: this and that if I do, then then people get hurt, right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think you practice and play just

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Speaker 3: like you're getting ready for a regular season game. And

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Speaker 3: our starters need some time together on the field and

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Speaker 3: and you know, so they'll get that opportunity this week,

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Speaker 3: and I'll listen, I'll monitor it, I'll be I'll be

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Speaker 3: you know, on top of that too, so if if

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Speaker 3: I need to pull him out or pull him out.

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Speaker 3: But right now it's still still full steam ahead.

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Speaker 2: Full steam ahead for the head coach. The full press

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Speaker 2: conference from Doug Peterson available now on Jaguars dot Com

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Speaker 2: and the Jaguars YouTube channel. Of course, we're on ten

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Speaker 2: ten XL, Jaguars dot Common, Jaguars YouTube, and Tony Vasselli

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Speaker 2: and Pete Prisco joined me. Now, good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete, Hello,

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 4: Guys? How are you they? This is great today. I

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Speaker 4: could see Tony, I could see JP and the way

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Speaker 4: we go.

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Speaker 2: In high definition and everything. That's great.

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Speaker 5: And I can hear you, Pete, unlike last week where

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Speaker 5: you said, but I could get every other word.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I didn't even hear you because I got

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Speaker 4: booted off by the time you got Well.

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Speaker 6: The good news is for at least me.

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Speaker 5: The ratings came back and it was two x ratings

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Speaker 5: from when you were on.

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Speaker 4: To I hear there was a severe plummet as soon

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Speaker 4: as you came play.

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Speaker 2: Well, all I know is that the first seven minutes

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Speaker 2: of the second hour were the highest rated of all time.

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Speaker 2: That was just me.

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Speaker 6: Pete missed it.

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Speaker 5: J P went on a seven minute monologue and I

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Speaker 5: thought his head was going to explode if he was

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Speaker 5: just talking in circle.

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Speaker 4: But you know what, Tony, the way he introduces us

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Speaker 4: like on the video, and we're also going to be

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Speaker 4: joined by two other guys that come on to the show,

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Speaker 4: like I mean, my gosh, we're just happy to be

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Speaker 4: on his show today.

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Speaker 2: To deliver chopped delivery.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, JP went to management and said and

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Speaker 5: he wanted to change the name of the show, JP

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Speaker 5: Shaver friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, and that was going to be top

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Speaker 2: of the billing. And then you guys and in five

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Speaker 2: print Tony and Pete.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much that last week, JP, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: I saw it, so hey, uh plenty to get to.

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Speaker 2: Here's a lot of a lot of stuff going on

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Speaker 2: with this team. Starters are going this week. In Week three,

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Speaker 2: some injuries have popped up coming out of week number two.

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Speaker 2: The injury bug here a little bit, so some key

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Speaker 2: roster spots up for grabs. So all right, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot happening around here right now, Pete.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the most concerning thing is Hamilton's back. To me

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Speaker 4: a boot. Was that true, Tony?

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Speaker 5: He was in a boot? I, Pete, that we don't

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Speaker 6: I read the same thing you did.

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Speaker 5: I heard someone brought up the boot to me, I

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Speaker 5: honest here, But was did Doug say was a non

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Speaker 2: That's what the team statement said? Yes, non football?

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Speaker 4: So is it horsing around? Is it picking up your

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Speaker 5: Or it could be it could be a back that

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Speaker 5: just sleeping in a hotel bed, sleeping wrong. After two

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Speaker 6: I mean, it could be anything.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, there's no reason for us to speculate

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Speaker 4: Times, speculating this league nowadays because nobody ever tells you anything, well.

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Speaker 6: Especially especially during the preseason.

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Speaker 5: Pete and you know this, But just to let our

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Speaker 5: fans and listeners no is the team is under no

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Speaker 5: obligations to give any injury specifics during training camp until

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Speaker 5: week one. The first injury report is the first time

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Speaker 5: they actually have to tell the whole story of what

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Speaker 5: report anything on Devon Hamilton. They could have just let

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Speaker 4: So and all that does expose the kid to doubts

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Speaker 4: and questions and everything else. It's a terrible policy. So

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Speaker 4: not just Jacksonville, by the way, it's all over the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, this is not a Jacksonville issue.

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Speaker 5: This is not a Doug Peterson er Trump Balkey issue.

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Speaker 5: This is a league issue. Every team does it pretty

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Speaker 2: So here's the official statement from earlier. Devon Hamilton is

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Speaker 2: currently dealing with a non football related medical issue with

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Speaker 2: his back. At this time, we do not have a

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Speaker 2: timetable on his return. The Metal Cool staff plans to

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Speaker 2: keep us informed in his progress and we'll provide updates

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Speaker 2: of the appropriate time. And then Doug Peterson earlier today

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Speaker 4: Tony. You had back surgery. I've had back issues. It

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Speaker 4: can lock up when you're if you sleep in the

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Speaker 4: what just the way they handled it was weird to me,

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Speaker 4: And I'm you know, you know me, I'm gonna call

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Speaker 4: There was a report of a boot on a foot,

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Speaker 4: which I don't know if that was true or not.

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Speaker 4: If it wasn't, whoever reported it was wrong and they

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Speaker 4: should apologize for that. But if there's a boot on

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Speaker 4: get it unless and as somebody who suffered with sciatica

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Speaker 4: unless and Tony you had it at one point. You

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm speculating. And the reason I'm speculating

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Speaker 6: It, well, Pete, Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if.

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Speaker 5: The boot thing was true, so I'm not gonna be like,

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Speaker 5: there's no sense of going down that path.

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Speaker 6: All we know is what they told us. It's his back.

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Speaker 5: I do think it's a big deal because he's had

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Speaker 5: a great camp and he is a very important piece

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Speaker 5: of the puzzle up front for this team. So getting

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Speaker 5: him healthy. I'm glad it happened now and not you know, week.

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Speaker 6: One, and you just don't know if it's if it's

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Speaker 5: You know, Pete, you brought up I had a little

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Speaker 5: at a discuss you bulging disc. Had severe pain down

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Speaker 5: right when I got back, had surgery at a dissectomy.

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Speaker 6: It was an amazing.

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Speaker 5: Surgery from the standpoint of I walked out of surgery

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Speaker 6: Minutes after I went in with zero pain.

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Speaker 5: And if I was at top shape, top shape, now

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Speaker 5: the doctor wouldn't have let me. But I could have

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: The protocols were three or four weeks of low activity

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would have been a dumbass and tried

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Speaker 4: Of course, well, and full disclosure here, I was in

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Speaker 4: So if he does have something along those lines, it's

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Speaker 4: there for both me and Tony as well. One of

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Speaker 4: the reasons you have problems with your back is because

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Speaker 4: you got the cuchine in the front let's be real.

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Speaker 4: Tony had the cuchine until he did his magical diet.

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Speaker 4: I had the cuchined until I did my magical diet.

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Speaker 4: And so that's one of the things doctors tell you, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you have a belly, it's going to

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not going to comment on Devon's cachine. Never

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Speaker 5: heard cachine Italian.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 6: Where it comes.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's three hundred and thirty five pounds, so there's

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Speaker 2: something there he's not He looks.

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Speaker 4: Like you know what, he actually not like that better

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks great. He's had a great camp.

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Speaker 5: Like that's why I'm I I get why you're speculating.

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Speaker 5: I'm just not going to I'm gonna give him the

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Speaker 5: penets of the doubt that it's a freak thing, slept

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Speaker 5: on it or whatever who knows it is.

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Speaker 4: Because they need him, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: They need they need them, they definitely.

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Speaker 2: So that's on top of fully fun of Cossi and

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Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday and Detroit goes down. He had a

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Speaker 2: time on that right foot. So we'll see.

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Speaker 5: They think, but jp they think he's gonna be back

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Speaker 5: for open week.

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Speaker 2: That's the hope.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I I actually know what that is.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know if it's been disclosed from the team,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna say a word.

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Speaker 6: But based on what I know, he should be back.

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Speaker 5: Opening weekend, and I think that's the plan inside the building,

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Speaker 5: He because that's what these coaches do this time of year,

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Speaker 6: Edge in it? Pete?

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Speaker 6: On letting us know right now.

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Speaker 5: They don't want the league to know that because that

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Speaker 6: Well, the guys are right.

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Speaker 4: Now, Tony. If a Keeam Hicks is out there, if

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Speaker 4: There's ways around that. I don't buy that competitive edge crap.

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Speaker 4: It's garbage. Everybody in the league does it, though, it's

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Speaker 5: You're your your inner beat writer is coming out, because

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Speaker 5: finding every conspiracy, every hidden everything, turning over, turning over

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Speaker 5: I mean, Pete, that's why. And I'm not saying this critically.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually giving you a compliment. This is why you

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Speaker 6: Who gives a crap.

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Speaker 4: It's just I just think that they should when something

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Speaker 5: You can put the player in a bad light either

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Speaker 5: You know it's a week to week injury. When they're

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Speaker 6: That's put all even the worst situation.

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame Fred Hall of Famer Fred Taylor says, hello.

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Speaker 2: Hey, plenty to get to. Of course, we'll come back

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Speaker 2: and get into the offense. What to expect from the

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Speaker 3: We get Ben barsh back this week. You know, he

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Speaker 2: I said coach Chug Peterson earlier today discussing maybe adding

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Speaker 2: there's a long list now of offensive line players that

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Speaker 2: So that's a lot, that's a long list. There goes

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Speaker 6: And so he looks like he's going to be out

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Speaker 5: I mean, he did, you know, But I'm telling you

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Speaker 5: But Pete from the game and listen, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I'm an offensive line apologist.

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Speaker 5: I give these guys the benefit of the doubt to

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Speaker 5: I can't defend it. I mean, he got run through

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Speaker 6: I think it was Pete.

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Speaker 6: He's a player, but he's not a top end pass rusher.

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Speaker 6: He got back up.

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Speaker 5: He got he got run over multiple times, like he

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know, and I get it mentally, it's

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Speaker 5: to be the franchise left tackle. Then to get suspended

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Speaker 6: So you know, his head's not completely right.

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Speaker 4: Stringers in the fourth quarter, of course, his head's not right.

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Speaker 6: But that's where you have to be a pro and

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Speaker 6: that was And here's the bigger thing, Pete.

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Speaker 5: Forget about Phil Rauscher and Doug Peterson and the Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: Forget about all that. I'm just telling you he's a player.

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Speaker 6: You want that on tape? What is that?

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Speaker 4: Well, he kind of got called out by Doug Peterson

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Speaker 4: let's call the guy out.

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Speaker 2: He was on the ground. That's true.

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah. And here's here's okay, I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 4: before the season. Walker Little should be the left tackle period,

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Speaker 6: And well, but let me just give a little caveat

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Speaker 6: Coming to Camp, I think Walker said the better Camp. Now.

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Speaker 6: He was fine. A little sloppy on his technique, got.

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Speaker 5: All over his you know, wait, over his feet a

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Speaker 6: You think he wants to play left guard, No, but

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that. So he could slid down.

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Speaker 5: The left guard, camp start and left tackle. If you

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Speaker 5: he's ever played anything but tackle. So he gets rolled

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Speaker 4: I did too. I thought he was. He got to

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Speaker 4: the second level off the double teams, which is you know, Tony, that.

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Speaker 6: Takes work, and he was physical.

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Speaker 5: He didn't get overwhelmed at the point of attack. You know,

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Speaker 5: it's a different but work different, you know, kind of engagement.

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Speaker 5: And so now the problem is, Pete, if you're Doug Peterson,

447
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Speaker 5: on one hand, you're like, yes, I love it because

448
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Speaker 5: now I can put my five best guys out there

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Speaker 5: once Cam gets back. But then you go, oh, oh,

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Speaker 5: is Cam one of our five best if he's gonna

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Speaker 5: play like that?

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Speaker 4: Or are you better with Walker Little at left tackle

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Speaker 4: and somebody else playing guard than you are with Walker

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Speaker 4: Little at gardens and Cam Robinson left?

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Speaker 2: Ben Bart? Ben Bart back to form at the start

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Speaker 2: of last season, Is he better than all those guys?

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Speaker 6: Well, I don't, I don't know if he. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I don't. I don't know about that JP. I want

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Speaker 6: to see that first. Ben.

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Speaker 2: Well, he won the job last year. Pete.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but but it was he ever. I mean, you

462
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Speaker 4: can check the box and say, okay, above average offensive guard.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with Pete.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you you know, what was it eight

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Speaker 5: nine games he played whatever?

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Speaker 6: It was six seven, I can't remember when he hurt.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even that many.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't like when he got hurt. You're like,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's the future left guard of this franchise.

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Speaker 4: Right. It's not like a four year vet that had

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Speaker 4: started at that spot got hurt. Now he's coming back

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Speaker 4: to take the job back. He's gonna have to go

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Speaker 4: back in there and win the job.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to win it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Tony, I'm with you. If Robinson and Little

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Speaker 4: of your best left side, then okay, I personally and

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Speaker 4: here's why. And nobody wants to hear this in the

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Speaker 4: organization right now, particularly the head coaches, because I said

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Speaker 4: it to that coach. Walker Little is your best left tackle.

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Speaker 4: If you go into the first four games and he

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Speaker 4: plays left tackle even better than he did a year ago,

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Speaker 4: and he's he's clearly becoming that guy and the offensive

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Speaker 4: line isn't having major issues no matter who's playing left guard.

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Speaker 4: Do you make the change just for the sake of

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Speaker 4: making the change, even though Cam Robinson is probably not

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Speaker 4: gonna be here next year and Walker Little will be

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Speaker 4: your left tackle. I just don't like that. I don't

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Speaker 4: think that's smart to do. Again, he could go in

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Speaker 4: there when the regular season starts, Tony and revert to

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Speaker 4: being a guy that doesn't know what he's doing. I

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Speaker 4: doubt it. I highly doubt it, but he could and

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Speaker 4: if that happens, then you make the movie. You put

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Speaker 4: Cam back in there, and you put Walker little left guard.

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Speaker 5: But but you're missing the bigger point based on what

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Speaker 5: you've seen in the preseason.

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Speaker 6: Do you trust Cam Robinson out there? No?

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Speaker 4: I don't, but I.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes get something.

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Speaker 4: No, Tony, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I agree.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm not making a final assessment. I'm still

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Speaker 5: a believer in Cam Robinson. It is talent ability. I

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Speaker 5: like Cam Robinson. I'm just telling you what I've seen

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Speaker 5: on tape. And all you can do is judge what's

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Speaker 5: on tape. And as a player, why do you want

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Speaker 5: that on tape anywhere?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: It's it was.

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Speaker 4: Bad and and like you said, they were backups, they

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Speaker 4: weren't like they were starting. Let's let's let's go through

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Speaker 4: two things, JP, who's the opening day five on the

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Speaker 4: offensive line? Who is the week five? And your estimation

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Speaker 4: for both of you? Who's the we? And I'll give

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Speaker 4: you mine?

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Speaker 5: Well, opening days easy, it's Anton Harrison, Brandon Sheriff, Luke

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Speaker 5: fortn Or.

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Speaker 6: I think sorry, I think it's I think it's.

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Speaker 5: Ben bart is gonna be your left guard, Uh, and

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Speaker 5: I think little.

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Speaker 2: Left that's the easy guard. What about week five?

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Speaker 6: Now, it's not just because I still think Blake Camp's

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Speaker 6: could be the left guard, could be the left guard.

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Speaker 6: I think it wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Awful left guard last week when he played there.

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Speaker 5: The week five, I still think it's gonna be cam Walker,

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Speaker 5: Little Uh, Fortner, uh Sheriff and Anton Harrison.

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Speaker 4: I do too, but I wouldn't do it if they're

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Speaker 4: playing well. It's not playing well easy to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're like we've talked about before, if they're

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Speaker 2: mauling people and they're three and one, whatever the record is.

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Speaker 2: But if they're mauling people and playing well as a

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Speaker 2: line and winning, you know, winning more than they.

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Speaker 6: I mean JP, if they're mauling people, they're going to

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Speaker 6: be four and oh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's say they're four and none.

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Speaker 5: Through the first you go through the first four games.

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Speaker 5: I mean Indy, they better beat Indy. Rookie quarterback game

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Speaker 5: is first start ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I talked about the lack of pass

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Speaker 2: rushers the first month against this.

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Speaker 4: They don't play teams with great outside edge rush, right,

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Speaker 4: they don't know, so they.

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Speaker 5: Better be Kansas City, Kansas didn't coming week two. That's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a tough matchup. Anytime he played Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 5: it's a coin flip. And now the guards will have

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Speaker 5: a test because Chris.

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Speaker 6: Jones is like a wrecking ball, wrecking machine.

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Speaker 2: They played him twice last year.

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Speaker 4: A wrecking ball.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we get that, but they've.

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Speaker 4: Seen there are certain guys who are just game records.

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Speaker 4: He's a game.

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Speaker 5: Record, yes, but but I mean it's at home, it's opening.

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Speaker 6: I think we win that game. It'll be how you

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Speaker 6: got then you got Houston, which.

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Speaker 4: Means you rushed. You're playing Will Anderson, who's a rookie

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Speaker 4: in his third game.

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Speaker 6: You should beat them. You're three and oh right, and

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Speaker 6: you Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: Right rushers on the edge, well you should be four

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Speaker 4: and oh and so if they are, do you make

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Speaker 4: a change. But but here's the other part of the question.

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Speaker 4: We're ignoring it. What if Camp goes out the last

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Speaker 4: bit of actual football tape you get from him this

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Speaker 4: week and Miami Dolphins are running through him again, then

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Speaker 4: what do you do? Do you just I mean, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's not who he is. He plays better in practice.

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Speaker 4: I mean do you what do you do.

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Speaker 6: Well? In pete?

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Speaker 5: I don't think you roll him out week five in

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Speaker 5: London either, because remember he's away from the facility for

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Speaker 5: four weeks, so his first week back.

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Speaker 4: Practice a couple of weeks in though. Isn't that the

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Speaker 4: rule you can come back?

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Speaker 6: I think I thought I didn't think so. I thought

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Speaker 6: you were four weeks. I thought it to be bad.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, I'm not sure. But either case, he's not

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Speaker 4: playing for eight week seven weeks, right is it? If

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Speaker 4: it plays Saturday, then they go one, two, three, four, five,

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Speaker 4: it'll be six weeks by the time he hits somebody.

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Speaker 4: And actually, if you count the first two weeks, it's

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Speaker 4: eight weeks because he didn't hit anybody in that game. Wow,

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Speaker 4: all right, alone, I do not I do.

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Speaker 5: Not endorse that. I disagree with that comment. That was

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Speaker 5: Pete Prisco, not to.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving you that, but but for him, by

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Speaker 4: his standards, by what we've seen when he plays well,

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Speaker 4: that was a horrible performance. Period. There's no other way

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Speaker 4: to share it, to call it out.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, it.

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Speaker 6: Was a bad performance regardless. I don't care who you are.

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Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We'll get back to the

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Speaker 2: defense when we return, and a position battle that could

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Speaker 2: be up for grabs, third corner back and a little

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Speaker 2: more on that defensive line. And what they do now

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Speaker 2: was some injuries up front. The start of the NFL

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Speaker 2: season is just around the corner, and we can't wait

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Speaker 2: for you to be back at the bank. The Jaguars

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Speaker 2: entertain the Dolphins this Saturday. Lock in your seats now

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Speaker 7: Jeremiah led Better, Adam Gotsis or tie as that that

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Speaker 7: we have, you know, as as role players, backup guys,

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Speaker 7: I think Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Lacey's another one that really has emerged. He played played

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Speaker 3: well in the game. He continues to get better right there.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we've got a couple of guys that

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Speaker 3: that that are on the roster that can they can

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Speaker 3: give us some really good time, you know, in Devon's absence,

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Speaker 3: however long that's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Said coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom call

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Speaker 2: with the media discussing the Jaguars options on the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Monday, preseason

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Speaker 2: Week three. We recapped the Week two win in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: The backups had most of the game. This week the

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Speaker 2: starters will play against the Dolphins. Maybe a couple of quarters.

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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick, Tony Boselli, and Pete Prisco Hey.

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Speaker 2: Adam gots has been around this league for a while now.

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Speaker 2: His eighth year Ledbetter had a big game. Pete, as

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Speaker 2: you referenced earlier, a guy who's been around but hasn't

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Speaker 2: had a lot of opportunities in his career. Five tackles,

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Speaker 2: a sack, force fumble. You keep playing like that, no

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Speaker 2: matter who you line up against, you're gonna at least

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Speaker 2: open some eyes. Let's put it that way. He may

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Speaker 2: not have made the team with that performance, but he's

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Speaker 2: right there on the edge of it now, right.

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Speaker 4: He was active, and that's always a good thing. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he pushed the pocket, he got pressure up the field,

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Speaker 4: he won in the run game, he held up when

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Speaker 4: he had to. I like what I saw from him.

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Speaker 4: Is he going to make the team? That's you know,

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Speaker 4: it depends on how many to keep. It depends on

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Speaker 4: the health of guys up front. Yeah, but you know

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Speaker 4: we mentioned, we mentioned possibility of getting another guy if

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Speaker 4: the injuries are a problem. A Keem Hicks is out

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Speaker 4: there and he's a big, giant body. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what kind of shape he's in, but I mean he's

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Speaker 4: one of those guys that you know when maybe that's

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Speaker 4: worth a look. You know, Tony, you remember he was

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Speaker 4: dominant at times in his career. Is a big, big,

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Speaker 4: tough guy in the middle.

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Speaker 5: The question is how much is he left in the

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Speaker 5: tank and how much does he want to play?

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Speaker 4: I mean four hundred pounds or something. You never know,

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Speaker 4: You're right, I get it, but you look a look

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Speaker 4: see and by the way, there are some offensive linemen

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Speaker 4: out there if they're worried about that too. I mean,

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Speaker 4: like Dalton Reisner started a bunch in Denver. Uh aj

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Speaker 4: Kans out there. I mean he started, he was starting

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Speaker 4: in Houston last week, wasn't last year wasn't awful. I

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Speaker 4: mean there's a couple of guys out there if you

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Speaker 4: got if you need backup guys and you know they're

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Speaker 4: gonna come on the one year minimum. The problem with

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Speaker 4: those guys, if they're on your active rosters to start

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Speaker 4: the season, you got to pay them, so you'd probably

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Speaker 4: wait till after. You'd wait until after bring him in.

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Speaker 5: No, I agree, Peat, I mean it'll be interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think Ledbetter baking the roster comes down to how

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Speaker 5: many guys they want to keep. Because he's on the

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Speaker 5: fifty three man, because he's a great specialties player, he's four.

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Speaker 5: The question is, and Doug mentioned Eddie Lacy, you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean Eddie Lacy's.

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Speaker 4: He's probably, He's probably He's probably as big as Tyler.

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Speaker 6: Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Lacy is a guy that I mean, he drafted him.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have the you know, kind of the the

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Speaker 5: advantage of being in this this uh, this group's draft pick.

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Speaker 4: So I think, now have you noticed him much.

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Speaker 6: He's ad a good camp.

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Speaker 5: I mean he's a big body, his athletic, but Ledbetter's

674
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Speaker 5: production it's hard to argue with.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he flashed in the game.

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Speaker 5: He played well. I thought he played okay in Dallas too,

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: So I mean, well.

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Speaker 4: We had so many people asking to cut the team,

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Speaker 4: So I mean they want you to cut the team, Tony.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not ready to do that.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna cut the next week.

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Speaker 2: Pete had it cut like a month ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well don't we have the show two weeks before

684
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Speaker 6: they do the cuts.

685
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 4: We do, but they're gonna have to. They might cut

686
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 4: it before Tuesday, so your information will be outdated.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't do it. They won't no cut Tuesday,

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Speaker 6: We'll do it Monday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he just doesn't want to do I see what

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Speaker 4: you're doing. You don't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: Stall tactic classic.

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Speaker 4: It is a stall tactic because then you know why JP,

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Speaker 4: Because if they cut before next Monday, then we don't

694
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Speaker 4: have to do it. I see what you do it.

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00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna wait play the waiting game.

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00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: But I mean you think five defense interior defensive lineman period.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 4: So in that case, if everybody's healthy, it comes down

699
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Speaker 4: to leadbetter versus lazy, and they'll keep lazy. I think,

700
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: how many pass rushers do you keep? Four?

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Speaker 6: At least four? Yeah, maybe five?

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00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: Who are they?

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Speaker 4: Ten total players? Then?

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Speaker 2: Who are I think?

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Speaker 5: I think yeah, because I think you keep uh, You're

706
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: gonna keep Dan Smoot and he can kick down and

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Speaker 5: place inside smooth.

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Speaker 4: Abdullah the two starters and Chase on Yep, we're getting there.

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Speaker 2: We're cutting the team. I got nice job.

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Speaker 4: The question becomes how many linebackers do they keep on

711
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Speaker 4: the inside.

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Speaker 5: For we're gonna keep uh, Muma, Lloyd and.

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Speaker 2: Uh and probably and who shack Corman staying well.

714
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Speaker 5: I think it comes down to Miller, quarter and Miller.

715
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Speaker 5: And the problem with Miller has not been he's been

716
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Speaker 5: banged up and he had an injury history coming out

717
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 5: of Florida, and he's missed.

718
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Speaker 6: Quite a bit of time.

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Speaker 4: But the draft pack, well, Miller's more.

720
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Speaker 5: Than Miller's more talented because he's he's more athletic. But

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Speaker 5: Quarterman is just he's solid, he's always out there, he's

722
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 5: never heard.

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Speaker 6: He does everything you ask him to do.

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Speaker 4: So they wouldn't keep all of them, though.

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Speaker 6: No, they're gonna keep four.

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Speaker 4: And then going to the secondary.

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Speaker 6: Now, I think it comes down to Quarterman or Miller.

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Speaker 4: I agree. Then you get there the secondary, you got

729
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: some young guys that have flashback there.

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Speaker 6: Well, you're you're you're keeping. Let's start with safety. That's easy.

731
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 5: Zisco Jenkins winger, winger, and I think you keep Daniel Thomas.

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Speaker 4: And Thomas has played well pretty.

733
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Speaker 6: Well and he and he's a and he's a core

734
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Speaker 6: special teams.

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Speaker 4: So there's your four there.

736
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Speaker 5: But I think they're gonna keep five because I think

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Speaker 5: Antonio Johnson's gonna make this.

738
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what's kind of like a hybrid guy

739
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 4: will count hands.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think I think ultimately they want Antonio

741
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Speaker 6: Johnson to be their nickel.

742
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Speaker 4: I would agree play that he could, he could handle it.

743
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 4: Get put him in there and let him play a

744
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 4: guy like Kelsey if you have.

745
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Speaker 2: To go to see what the hamstring, how that's gonna

746
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: go though, right, I mean, he's got a hamstring issue

747
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: right now.

748
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Speaker 4: So but he's gonna be on the team. You're right,

749
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: He's going to be on the team.

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Speaker 5: He's on the team. So that's five. And then you're

751
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: you're looking at your corners. Well, you know, Darius Williams

752
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Speaker 5: and Tyson Campbell are going to be.

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Speaker 6: On the roster.

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Speaker 4: Rest of them are up for grabs.

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Speaker 6: I think Trey makes it because push comes to shove.

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Speaker 6: You know, he can go play nickel and he can

757
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Speaker 6: play special teams.

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Speaker 5: I think then it comes down to who I think

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00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 5: they want Antonio Johnson to be that nickel, but.

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Speaker 4: Corners though.

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Speaker 2: Gregory is right there on the doorstep too. He's got

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Speaker 2: to be now, Gregory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Gregory Junior is on the doorstep. I think Braswell

764
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Speaker 5: has done enough this preseason to bake.

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Speaker 4: Braswell has done some Yeah, I think Braswell's done some

766
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 4: good stuff. Hallett was bad the other day. I think

767
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: that could be a problem for him. What about so

768
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 4: you keep five? So it comes down to keep you.

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Speaker 4: They probably will keep Herndon Tony just to keep because

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Speaker 4: he's they're comfortable with him.

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Speaker 5: They maybe keep keep Braswell and Gregory Jr.

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Speaker 2: Five. Yeah, okay, we'll come back and cut the offense

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Speaker 2: in just a moment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been great that you do it. You

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Speaker 2: go for a half week. Just tricked Tony Boselli into

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Speaker 2: cutting the defense. And I let.

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Speaker 4: That was really easy, by the way.

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Speaker 2: That was like an easy setup, Pete.

795
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Speaker 6: Because I knew what was coming. I knew it was coming.

796
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 6: I let you guys get the joy.

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Speaker 4: Well, you thought they were gonna cut it before we

798
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 4: had to do it, and he didn't want to get beat.

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Speaker 4: They look forward to it. The fans look forward to this, Tony.

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Speaker 2: They do. The fans are clamoring no, and I know

801
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: they're clamoring now for the offense. I mean, this is

802
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: this shouldn't be as difficult the offense is. There's a

803
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Speaker 2: couple of keys.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with the quarterback. Do you keep three?

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00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: Let's do that last, because it depends on how many

806
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: spots you have left.

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00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, all.

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00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: Right, So offensive linemen, you're gonna keep ten? No, nine, eight, No,

809
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: you'll keep more than eight with the.

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00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe nine, So it's you're starting five. It's up

811
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Speaker 5: with Birch in there.

812
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: But remember you're keeping Cam doesn't count against the roster,

813
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 4: so you can't count him.

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00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 6: I'm not right now, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I think uh Blake can't is making it six?

816
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Speaker 6: The unknown is Shaley and the.

817
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Speaker 2: A fib Well, he's apparently going to give a go

818
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: next week, so if he's back.

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Speaker 6: He's on yep, and then h that's seven.

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Speaker 4: Hodges would have made it, but he want.

821
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Speaker 6: Well I think I actually think he makes it, and

822
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Speaker 6: then they put him on I r return later, So

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Speaker 6: putt Hodges is eight because opening, I mean, I think

824
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Speaker 6: he makes the initial roster. You know, you might keep

825
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Speaker 6: Bobby Evans as a swing tackle, unless you because who

826
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Speaker 6: else is going to play?

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Speaker 5: Because I mean, because right now you have no swing

828
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 5: you have no left tackle besides walk a little now,

829
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Speaker 5: Anthon Harrison can do that, but you don't want to

830
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Speaker 5: ask him.

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Speaker 6: You want to as a rookie, want him at one position.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you do? What do you do with

833
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: If Shatley isn't back all the way, you have to

834
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Speaker 4: find somebody who can snap the football. So do you

835
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Speaker 4: keep the backup center?

836
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Speaker 5: I think I think you got to keep Darryl Williams

837
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Speaker 5: at that point.

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Speaker 4: He's not bad. He's been okay too. Though he's not

839
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Speaker 4: he's not He's a solid player in there.

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Speaker 5: I think I think I think getting the eight or nine,

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Speaker 5: it will probably be nine.

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Speaker 6: Offensive linement is tough right now because of all the injuries.

843
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 6: We don't know enough. We're not going to know until

844
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Speaker 6: next week.

845
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Speaker 4: And what's Wells's injury.

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Speaker 6: They have not reported.

847
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: It's an adductor is what groin area?

848
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Speaker 6: Yes so, And I heard of the bad version.

849
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: So if it's the bad version, that's how long tony

850
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Speaker 4: six weeks?

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Speaker 6: Maybe eight?

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Speaker 2: Yes so?

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Speaker 4: But didn't didn't Sheriff play within that same exact thing

854
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Speaker 4: last year and ended up having surgery on it after

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 6: I think it's a little different. I think this is

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Speaker 6: I think this is a little more severe.

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Speaker 4: Well If that's the case, then he's gone for a

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00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 4: long time, so you can't count him. But you're right,

860
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Speaker 4: they have to keep a swing tackle because you you

861
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Speaker 4: can't count on Cam being swing Tackleckle or Walker Little

862
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Speaker 4: be the swing tackle or whoever. So that you're right,

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Speaker 4: Bobby Evans might be a guy they keep you play

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Speaker 4: tackle too.

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Speaker 6: Though he can play right, I don't think he can

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Speaker 6: play left right.

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Speaker 4: So he counts as the swing guard and the swing

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Speaker 4: tackle right tackle, and then you can count Bobby Evans.

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Speaker 4: He could play wherever he has to play.

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Speaker 2: What's position group is next? Pet tight ends? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, by the way, that kid is a maller and

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Speaker 4: is a run blocker.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't ever draft the guy the third

875
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Speaker 4: round because he's a maller as a blocker.

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Speaker 6: But he is that he runs. He's not bad in

877
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Speaker 6: the past game.

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Speaker 4: He's not what he isn't is sudden.

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Speaker 6: He's gonna be what he gives you when he is

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Speaker 6: a in line tight end.

881
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Speaker 5: They did not have this last man. Hurts was no

882
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: threat in the pass game. He's at least a threat

883
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 5: in the past g he's.

884
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: More of a threat. Yes, so he's he's on Uh Ingram. Yeah,

885
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: and then then you go down and you got it?

886
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 4: How many more do you keep too?

887
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: Making?

888
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 6: Luke Farrell is on the team.

889
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Right, and then Garrett Prince, your guy?

890
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 4: Did he fizzle out? Because he was the sensation of

891
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: early in camp and he hasn't really been that much.

892
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Who the other options right now are Garrett Prince, Josh Peterson,

893
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: Derek Parrish.

894
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 4: It's probably Prince.

895
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 6: It's Prince.

896
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 4: Okay, so there's four.

897
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 2: There's four running backs.

898
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 6: Wide receivers, wide receivers. You're keeping six. It's this is easy.

899
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 6: It's it's Ridley, Zay Jones.

900
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, Parker, Washington jam Jamal Agnew. I think it

901
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: is Parker.

902
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't think he has any role

903
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 6: this year at all.

904
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: No, he's the guy who sit down on game.

905
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 6: It's I think he's an active game day.

906
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 5: I think it comes down to either Tim Jones or

907
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 5: Paris taking Paris.

908
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: I would agree Tim Jones is kind of the incumbent

909
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: in that spot, right. Special teams guys.

910
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: He's better on special teams, isn't he.

911
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: Well, just because you've seen it, Harris has had a

912
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 5: good camp on special teams. He's worked really hard at it.

913
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: But I think Tim Jones ends up getting that job

914
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: from betting Man.

915
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: So Parker Washington they have no and adding Ridley, they

916
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: have no real change on that. It's the same group.

917
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: Then do you do you but Washington? What's he doesn't

918
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 4: do anything? So would you tuck him? Try and tuck

919
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 4: him on the practice squad? If he does, he is

920
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: he canny play special teams.

921
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: Can get him through there. I don't know about that.

922
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 6: I don't think he gets through. I don't think he

923
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 6: gets through.

924
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 4: Okay, so he's he's uh he So you keep six

925
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: and that's done. Running backs?

926
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 6: Well, you're keeping obviously ETN and.

927
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 5: Uh big B.

928
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 6: I think I think I think four. It's can be

929
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: hasty and uh uh Johnson?

930
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, what if they keep three hasty?

931
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 6: I don't know. Johnson's look good this camp, he.

932
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 4: Has looked good. I think you keep all. I think

933
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 4: he keeps the four of them.

934
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: So that gets us to quarterback.

935
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 6: I think they only keep two quarterbacks.

936
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I think they'll they'll put

937
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 4: Rourke on the practice squad. Somebody was asking the other day,

938
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 4: is did Rourke out play betht in the preseason?

939
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 6: Yes?

940
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: Do you think he's better than Bethert.

941
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 5: Pete, I'll say what I said this morning with Hicken.

942
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you the chance to see if you

943
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 5: get it right. Listen me, because basically, I mean you

944
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 5: evaluate every player based on what the response its abilities are.

945
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: What are their skill sets? So what are you asking

946
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 6: them to do?

947
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 5: What are their skill sets and how do they perform

948
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: those skill sets. Let's be out the responsibilities for a

949
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 5: backup quarterback.

950
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 6: In this league.

951
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: Be a good buddy of the head of the starting.

952
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 5: Quarterback psychologist, make the room good, well right, and then

953
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 5: you get into can you play?

954
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 4: But you also you can look at what Bethert's salary

955
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: isn't little.

956
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: Let me say this, Pete, They're not getting rid of Beth.

957
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: He is the backup quarterback. I don't care what I mean.

958
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Peterson said that yesterday or after the game or yeah.

959
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he is.

960
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 5: He's the backup because he does what you need With

961
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence is your quarterback.

962
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 6: I don't think you.

963
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 5: Want a young guy who's never played in this league

964
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 5: in Roark mean your backup with Trevor Lawrence is your starter.

965
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: That's not the he doesn't you don't save that money.

966
00:46:58,600 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: You don't you save?

967
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's sign He's not going anywhere. We're back in

968
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: a moment. Second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour ahead your

969
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: questions and much more. A Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

970
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: Jet Home Loans.

971
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: You can't substitute game game reps and the feeling of

972
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of pressure and a little

973
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: heat from you know, execution and in practice. It's okay

974
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 3: to make a mistake because we can correct.

975
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: It in the film.

976
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: In the game, you know, it gets magnified. So I

977
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: just need those guys to play together, you know. Obviously

978
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: if they can play two cores, I'd love to get

979
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: you know, a two minute drive if we could. Those

980
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 3: are all things that you know, it's hard to simulate

981
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 3: and practice. We'd love to get the defense a two.

982
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 8: Minute scenario there as well, you know, so we'll see

983
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 8: how it goes. But they need they need the time

984
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 8: on the you know, in a game, in a game setting,

985
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 8: and being a home game too, it makes a little

986
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 8: bit easier that way.

987
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: That's head coach Doug Peterson this morning on a zoom

988
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: call the media and welcome back. Second hour of Jaguars

989
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: Happy Hour is presented by Mister Chubby's Wings. The Jaguars

990
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: recapping preseason Week two, a win in Detroit. The reserves

991
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: got all the time in the game. This week, the

992
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: starters will play against the Miami Dolphins Saturday at EverBank

993
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: Stadium and should be a nice night for it. Seven

994
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 2: o'clock kickoff time. Jaguars got the win though in Detroit Saturday,

995
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: twenty five to seven the final score. The injuries starting

996
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: to pile up on the offensive end defensive lines, especially

997
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: in the O line. The depth being tested there. Two

998
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 2: front line defensive linemen are demed up right now fully

999
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 2: Patacasi and of von Hamilton. Phatakasi is week to week Hamilton,

1000
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: no true timetable has been announced. Walker Little played left

1001
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 2: guard in the first half last week for a look

1002
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 2: at what could be an option once Cam Robinson returns

1003
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: from his four game suspension, and as we said onto

1004
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 2: preseason week three, Doug Peterson looking for a half from

1005
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: the starters and a few certain situations. There are still

1006
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: some position battles to be decided. Sixth receiver, fifth or

1007
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: sixth receiver, whichever way you want to look at it.

1008
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: Third corner as well, just to name a couple, Tony Vasselli,

1009
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 2: Pete Prisco of course with us every single Monday. We've

1010
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 2: cut the team already, Pete, congrats.

1011
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: See I knew I would get him to do it.

1012
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, but did we do the map? It feels like

1013
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 5: we have like fifty six guys on the roster.

1014
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: I don't think so. You kept the ad and guys.

1015
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 5: We had ten defense the line and outside backers. We

1016
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: had ten secondary. That's twenty We had four backers. That's

1017
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 5: twenty four on defense, right, yes, okay, twenty four defensive guys.

1018
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 5: On offense, we had lineman, nine offensive lineman. Two quarterbacks

1019
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 5: that's eleven. Four running backs.

1020
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 6: At fifteen or tight six wide receivers.

1021
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 5: That's twenty two. Four tight ends twenty six. That's fifty

1022
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: that you have your three specialist thingo fifty three.

1023
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: We nailed it.

1024
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: We got it right on the right, right on the number.

1025
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

1026
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: You know, Doug and Trent can go home for the

1027
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 5: rest of the next two weeks. We did their work

1028
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 5: for them.

1029
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 4: Show they probably they probably like you to take over

1030
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: when they cut his son.

1031
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 6: I'm staying away from family, Pete.

1032
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a harsh one. I feel bad for

1033
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 4: whoever has to do that. You know what, though, he

1034
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 4: got an opportunity to be in a training camp.

1035
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what And that's what he said when

1036
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: they media talked to Josh Peters.

1037
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: Late in the and he played in the in the

1038
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 4: league in the I mean that's the.

1039
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 2: First time around he's been around.

1040
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: So no, yeah, and yeah, I'll tell you what. When

1041
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: he was in that league, he made plays in that league.

1042
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: So that's all ahead. The cut has been made here

1043
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: on Jangle is happy hour. They'll have to make the

1044
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: cut officially by four o'clock of Tuesday next week. That's

1045
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: what it has to be.

1046
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: By the way, there's one guy or two guys that

1047
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 4: are gonna make the team that we don't have on

1048
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 4: the team. Let's be real.

1049
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: Here's a question. How many cut Jaguars players will be

1050
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: claimed by other teams.

1051
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 4: I think injuries have impacted that. On the offensive line.

1052
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: You might have had a guy get cut on the

1053
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: offensive line that might have gotten claimed, but I don't

1054
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: think that's the case now with the injuries being what

1055
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 4: they are. You know, Tony, when you look around the NFL,

1056
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: the backup offensive lines are terrible.

1057
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 6: I think we're pretty deep at receiver.

1058
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 5: I could see some of those receivers getting signed as

1059
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 5: the fifth or sixth guy.

1060
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoever that sixth guy or seventh guy is. You know,

1061
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 2: if it's not Tim Jones the.

1062
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 4: Seventh guy, if it comes down to Tim Jones and

1063
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 4: Harris at one of those guys would be the seventh Yeah.

1064
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: And tape out there, because the Harris is the third

1065
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: year guy, and you know, and Tim Jones's second year guy.

1066
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 4: What about the other guys that have flashed receiver? Some

1067
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 4: of those guys, remember.

1068
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 5: Eighty four of the big guy Cooks, Elijah Cooks. He's

1069
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 5: an interesting one to me. He's a big old dude

1070
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: and good hands and physical.

1071
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: So what Okay, So maybe one guy there, But I

1072
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: don't think there's really many surprises for us. That's actually

1073
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: a good thing. I think when you don't have that,

1074
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Tony, In the past, you'd

1075
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: always say, well, this guy, these two three can make it,

1076
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 4: but this guy can't. You know. Now it's pretty much

1077
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 4: cut and dried, and I think that tells you that's

1078
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: a good football team.

1079
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1080
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 5: No, there were definitely a much better team than they

1081
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 5: were at most places. I don't think everywhere I don't

1082
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: think their rush is as good as it was last

1083
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 5: year with arden Key and Want Smooth Healthy. But yeah,

1084
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 5: I agree with you. I think most places they're better

1085
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 5: than they've been for a long time.

1086
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 4: If if Photocassi and Hamilton can't play this week, which

1087
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 4: is all probability, how will they start up front?

1088
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: If Peterson said they're both out anyway this week already?

1089
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 4: Oh he did, I don't hear him say that. Okay,

1090
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: so they're out, So who starts? Because you're working with

1091
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 4: the ones who would be working. Goats would be one

1092
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 4: of them, right.

1093
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think?

1094
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 5: I mean, do you start Lacey at at one technique

1095
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 5: knows give him reps?

1096
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe would draft pick No, I.

1097
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 6: Would start Lacey the practice squad.

1098
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 4: We talked about him before the show.

1099
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he makes it, So let's put

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00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 5: Lacey out there. I again, let me say one for

1101
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 5: the fifth time, JP, he's not listening to you.

1102
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: I know you think this is your show, JP.

1103
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 2: Coast Week.

1104
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 5: Give him credits to people that Pete and I have

1105
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 5: made a list on a piece of paper to replace

1106
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 5: you with.

1107
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 6: If you don't get your ass straight and got act

1108
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 6: like at your show.

1109
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 4: By the way, JP. I heard him say put Lacey

1110
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 4: get lazy shot five times and you didn't even acknowledge

1111
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 4: I heard it.

1112
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 2: I heard it every time. I'm just going through other names.

1113
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: It could be possibilities.

1114
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's a way to do that.

1115
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 6: JP.

1116
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 5: You can say, Okay, you think it's Lacey, any chance

1117
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 5: it could be any of these other guys.

1118
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 6: Not just ignoring what I said.

1119
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: I was acknowledging.

1120
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 6: Wait, why don't you take a break, JP, get a

1121
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 6: cup of coffee?

1122
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: Pete, I got it could be led better to Tony

1123
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: exactly what are you?

1124
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: What is that yelling at him?

1125
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 4: He at least acknowledges this his thought on it.

1126
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 6: But Pete, I agree with you.

1127
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 5: But don't you want to see what the work he

1128
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Speaker 5: can do with the starters out there?

1129
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Speaker 6: Yeah?

1130
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 4: I would, I would, I would. I'd play lazy.

1131
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 2: You know what?

1132
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 6: Not Eddie lazy? J Tyler.

1133
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: Hey, you're the one who brought that up, not me,

1134
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: by the way.

1135
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 4: But I mean, do you how long are they going

1136
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 4: to play the starters?

1137
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 6: Half?

1138
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: A couple.

1139
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 4: A lot of football? Why you wouldn't you played a

1140
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: third preseason game and you had to come out after

1141
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 4: half to get a sense for what that feels.

1142
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, because I didn't know. I've never done that before.

1143
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 4: Everybody in the league did it. Everybody did it.

1144
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: Real halftime adjustments, right, great, I.

1145
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 5: Never quite got that one basically what that was in

1146
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 5: the preseason tom yelling at us that we didn't do

1147
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 5: good enough in the first half, ripping us and telling

1148
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 5: us to go back out there.

1149
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 4: But you agree with me in this that I think

1150
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: starters should play a sum in this game, not just

1151
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, but all across the league because you're gonna

1152
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 4: go three weeks without a month without playing.

1153
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 5: Any football and limited the limited full pad reps you

1154
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 5: get in the practice field too, so you're not gonna

1155
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 5: have a lot of contact between the last preseason game

1156
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 5: and opening day.

1157
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: So I do think it's something you should go. I

1158
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 6: like Doug's approach half. I think it's good. Yeah, there's risk,

1159
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 6: there's risking everything. Heck that Devon Hamilton got hurt with

1160
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 6: no football.

1161
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 4: Right and and guys get hurt on the practice field

1162
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 4: all the time. Guys get hurt, you know, running drills,

1163
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 4: they plant, and I mean no it absolutely play them.

1164
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in this week especially guys should

1165
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: around the league should play because they got to hit.

1166
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 4: You got to hit somebody.

1167
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: Are the Dolphins gonna play, Pete?

1168
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: They played guys in this this past week too, so

1169
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: I would imagine they will. I haven't heard, but I

1170
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 4: would imagine they will.

1171
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 6: I can find out you live down there.

1172
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: Again. It goes that back to if you if you

1173
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 4: don't play the third preseason game, you got week, you

1174
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 4: got four weeks? No was it three full weeks? Four

1175
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: full weeks without hitting somebody that matters? And if you

1176
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 4: didn't play this second one, like you just say that

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Speaker 4: Jacksonville didn't play their starters. Those guys wouldn't have played

1178
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 4: barely at all except for the first week. And then

1179
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 4: you go play a game in five and a half

1180
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: what six weeks after that? That makes no sense. Gotta play?

1181
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 4: Would you have wanted to play?

1182
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 6: I wanted to know.

1183
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: Would you have realized that it was good for you

1184
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 4: to play?

1185
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 6: I'm being honest, Bete.

1186
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: I felt like two weeks of practice won you know,

1187
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 5: half of a preseason game.

1188
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 6: I'm ready to go play.

1189
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 4: From a But you don't tackle either, though? Don't you

1190
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: think tackling?

1191
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 6: Though I only did.

1192
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 5: I only do the hardest thing on the field, block

1193
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: of far superior acts go backwards by myself.

1194
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 6: No, I don't need I mean, that was the dumbest

1195
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 6: thing I've ever heard tackling.

1196
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 4: So you told me when I was there that you

1197
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 4: were ready to go in the way they play office.

1198
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: Now you could do it right now.

1199
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 5: Two hundred and sixty, I was talking to Press Taylor

1200
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 5: about uh and the way Press Taylor and Doug has

1201
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 5: designed this offense is so offensive line friendly, Like they

1202
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 5: never just straight drop back on first or second down

1203
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 5: unless it's like second and eight plus, they like they

1204
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 5: are always moving the pocket.

1205
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 6: There's always some action in the backfield.

1206
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 5: And even when they do straight back drop back, it's

1207
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 5: like the balls out of Trevor's hand. They getting these

1208
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 5: empty sets, They've scats. It's a quick game, like like one.

1209
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 4: Of the head coach in the NFL. Oh gosh, yeah,

1210
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: soon impressed. I love the way they designed the offense.

1211
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: And I think he has that same kind of mentality

1212
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 4: as brother. He's just I think he If Trevor has

1213
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 4: the kind of season I predicted he would have and

1214
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 4: this team has the kind of season I predicted you have,

1215
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: Press Taylor might be a head coach next year.

1216
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 6: Yes, he is. Really good.

1217
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 5: And I'm just telling you, and you know, obviously I

1218
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 5: was being facetious. Where I can go play right now.

1219
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 2: The only Hall of Famer ever to come out of

1220
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: retirement and go play again.

1221
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 5: About playing, My point was, my whole point was though,

1222
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 5: the way that they have designed this offense is so

1223
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: friendly that and I'm gonna go do I'll do it

1224
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 5: one of these games in the regular season. I bet

1225
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 5: it's I bet you it's only a handful of times.

1226
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 6: You're in a very difficult situation when.

1227
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 5: You're one on one and you know, you know you're

1228
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 5: getting no help and you're by yourself.

1229
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: So I think the design of the offense and a

1230
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 4: lot of the offense is now in this league, Tony,

1231
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,439
Speaker 4: they make it easy on the on the offensive line.

1232
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 5: Well, you have to pete because one the defenders are

1233
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 5: I mean, they were like this. I mean, I mean,

1234
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 5: let's call it what it is. They're better athletes than

1235
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 5: the guys that were trying. You know, I feel like

1236
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 5: I'm a pretty good athlete.

1237
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 6: It was good at what I did.

1238
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 5: But I knew when I went and faced you know,

1239
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 5: Derrick Thomas or Bruce Smith or Jason Taylor.

1240
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 6: Any of these guys that they were some of the

1241
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 6: top athletes on their entire team, in the entire world,

1242
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 6: and so you gotta go. You gotta That's why I.

1243
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 5: Think playing offensive line is as much between the ears

1244
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 5: as anything else.

1245
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 6: It's it's a thinking man's position. I think your way

1246
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 6: through it for yourself, you know, put yourself in a position.

1247
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 5: That puts them in the mind as many times as

1248
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 5: you can, and I think the offense helps do that.

1249
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 5: With all that said, back to the original point, I'll

1250
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 5: tell you this, I didn't need six weeks of two

1251
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 5: days and four preseason games to be ready to play

1252
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: an NFL game now. But it's not just but this

1253
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 5: is what we miss all the time. It's not just

1254
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 5: about Tony Decelli or you know said player, because there's

1255
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 5: veterans on this team. I guarantee you Brandon Sheriff.

1256
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 6: Is ready to go play a regular season game right now,

1257
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 6: right this second.

1258
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 5: If you roll them out and said you gotta play

1259
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 5: four quarters against Chris Jones this week, he'd be ready

1260
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 5: to go.

1261
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 4: Did you need did you practices a handful?

1262
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 6: Because I need to.

1263
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 5: I need I needed to feel the.

1264
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 6: The shock, the pain.

1265
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 5: I need to get my get some calim is built out,

1266
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 5: built up.

1267
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,919
Speaker 4: So how many padded practices that they had?

1268
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 6: Very many? I have no idea.

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01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: They had to row and they had to take three

1270
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: days off. That's the rule.

1271
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 4: At one that was like, yeah, they probably if I

1272
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: had a grand total of.

1273
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: Six or seven somewhere in there.

1274
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,439
Speaker 4: Maybe you guys had that many in a week.

1275
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: They only did one in Detroit. They only did one

1276
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: in Detroit.

1277
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 6: We had we did eight in the first first four days.

1278
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You had that many in a week.

1279
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 6: Less than a week the week we were there.

1280
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: Since you're coming back, are they do they still have

1281
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 4: your size nine helmet in the equipment?

1282
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 6: I was a seven and seven eight.

1283
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: That is a lie lie lie on the top of

1284
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: your head. You're not strapping it in like a helmet.

1285
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: But I'm going back. I'm going back to my point

1286
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 6: Pete before we go to bar I how many you know?

1287
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: But it's it's not about the individual player part of

1288
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 5: the preseason and why you need these reps is to

1289
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: get everyone on the same page, operating as a unit,

1290
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 5: you know, getting in out of the huddle, getting on

1291
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: the snap, let the quarterback read things, communicate the play

1292
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 5: change you know, timing.

1293
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 6: I mean, those are all important things that you need

1294
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 6: reps to do. So it's less about.

1295
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 5: The individual player, in my opinion, it's the overall where

1296
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 5: you are as a team. And that's what I heard

1297
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 5: Doug say. You only can get so much out of

1298
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 5: it in practice. It's when you go on the field.

1299
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 5: The coaches are on the sideline, it's Trevor and the

1300
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 5: ten other guys in the huddle. You call the play,

1301
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 5: you're making the changes, you're communicating, you're seeing at full speed,

1302
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 5: you're making adjustments on the fly. That's what I think

1303
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 5: Doug's talking about. And that's the valuable, valuable part of

1304
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: camp and preseason.

1305
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: The ones got a ton of work in Detroit, though,

1306
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: they got a lot of work in those but again,

1307
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks not getting hit, the receivers aren't getting blasted,

1308
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: and the running back is getting popped going through the line.

1309
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 4: So it's it's still different, still not the same.

1310
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Speaker 2: Sope, we're back in a moment. We're gonna keep it

1311
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Speaker 2: Stadium tickets available, starters are playing, and it's time now

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Speaker 2: for keeping it Real presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundabi.

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Speaker 2: Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award winning line

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Speaker 2: by Robert Mondavi and this consists of the defensive line.

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Speaker 2: How concerned are you about the injuries of Patakasi and

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Speaker 2: Hamilton and should they bring in additional help?

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Speaker 5: Mother, First, I am very concerned, one because Von Hamilton's

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Speaker 5: had a great camp and he's a very important part

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Speaker 5: Potocosi's you know, a guy you're counting on. I think

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Speaker 5: the interior three to be really good. Add worry Robertson

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Speaker 5: Harrison to that, because they are We're gonna have to

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Speaker 5: push the pocket, You're gonna have to stop the want run.

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Speaker 5: You know, winning on first and second downs critical playing

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Speaker 5: defense in this league. Trying to create those long situation

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Speaker 5: yard of situations. I would have said before this past week,

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Speaker 5: when injuries propped up, they were a strength of the team.

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Speaker 6: And now you look at.

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Speaker 5: The unknown of the Von Hamilton, we have no idea

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Speaker 5: what the back is. You get into a little bit

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Speaker 5: of a patterned with Photocosi because it's not forget he

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Speaker 5: had the cap injury last year and missed time. It

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Speaker 5: really wasn't himself all year because he couldn't really push

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Speaker 5: off with that with that with the cap injury, so

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Speaker 5: both are very concerned. To be JP, do you bring

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Speaker 5: someone in? I think you got to kick the tires

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Speaker 5: for sure.

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Speaker 4: I would. I would definitely look for somebody. I would

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Speaker 4: look for a big body and then Keem Hicks, I'd

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Speaker 4: bring him in and look at him. If he's too heavy,

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Speaker 4: he send him home. If he if he's in shape

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Speaker 4: and he's willing to play, sign him to a deal.

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Speaker 4: I just think you got to be prepared as if

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Speaker 4: those two guys aren't going to be there. I mean

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Speaker 4: they probably will be. You hope they will be, but

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Speaker 4: you have to prepare for it. And if they open

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Speaker 4: the season with those two guys not in the lineup,

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Speaker 4: against the Colts, so you know when Jonathan Taylor is

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Speaker 4: back there, and he'll be back there. They want to

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Speaker 4: run the ball, and so you got to have big

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Speaker 4: bodies up there, and I don't right now, I don't

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Speaker 4: think that they could get by with what they have

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Speaker 4: and be comfortable with that. So I would explore a

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Speaker 4: big body.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of money in those big three guys

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Speaker 2: up front, by the way, Fantacostia in year two of

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Speaker 2: a three year thirty million dollar contract, Hamilton year one

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Speaker 2: of a three year, three thirty four and a half

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Speaker 2: million dollar contract, Roy Robertson Harris year two of a

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Speaker 2: three year twenty one million dollar contract. So they've they

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Speaker 2: never spent some money.

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Speaker 5: There if you think about them, they're not really high

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Speaker 5: paid today's NFL now, having three guys at that, we're

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Speaker 5: all at that kind of called mid level.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you've definitely invested money in that. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying you're wrong about your overall investment, but.

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Speaker 5: I mean you you think of like the top end

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Speaker 5: guys or the top five, they're all getting worth of

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Speaker 5: twenty even nowadays, and so I think your point is

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Speaker 5: right about overall investment. Hell and Garon Donald makes more

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Speaker 5: than all of them combined.

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Speaker 2: But it's a different, different level, right, I mean you do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hamilton, I mean, Hamilton's tied for twenty second

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Speaker 4: highest paid defensive lineman.

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Speaker 6: That's my point. Pete not high paid.

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Speaker 4: No, Photocosi's twenty six and.

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Speaker 5: Robern and Harrison, who might be the by the way,

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Speaker 5: why might be the best of all of them, And

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Speaker 5: he's the last least paid.

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Speaker 6: He's at a great camp. He has been dominant physically.

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Speaker 4: And he was really good at the beginning of last year,

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Speaker 4: tailed off in the middle and played really well down

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Speaker 4: the stretch. So yeah, but you're right in the grand

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Speaker 4: scheme of things. I mean, if you look at it,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald makes thirty one million dollars a year.

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Speaker 6: He makes more than all of them put together.

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Speaker 2: It's probably not enough. I mean, you can pay it more, right.

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Speaker 4: But again, you can go get a big body guy

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Speaker 4: and try and get it. That's what I would do, Tony.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's always those guys hanging around that ready

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Speaker 4: to come in, and they can play short spurts, they

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Speaker 4: can't play long periods of time.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sure, I don't disagree with you. I mean

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Speaker 5: I have no idea what a keen ticks. A keen

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Speaker 5: hicks is mental physical.

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Speaker 6: Like if you want to play, is he healthy? Is

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Speaker 6: he a shape? I mean?

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Speaker 5: And then I'm sure there's other guys too. I don't

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Speaker 5: think you make that decision, Pete. Right now, let's see

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Speaker 5: where POTACOSTI. I think they're confident will be ready.

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Speaker 6: I think the unknown, And it's hard for us to

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Speaker 6: even speculate. We don't know what Devon Hamilton's dealing.

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Speaker 5: With outside of general back. It's non football related and

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Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they really know the full extent yet.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're just kind of waiting to see how

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Speaker 2: this thing goes.

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Speaker 5: So JP can't be you gotta be snooping around there,

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Speaker 5: kind of getting the insights.

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Speaker 2: So what I need to do? Go snoop around? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that would be good for any of us.

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Speaker 2: Know where I mean?

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Speaker 5: Well, because even if we knew JP, we couldn't say anything, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why what's the point?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: That's keeping it real presented? I would bridge by Robert

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Speaker 2: open Up A winner today Real Ingredients Award Winning Wine

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Speaker 2: by Robert Mondavi to be nice to have a box

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Speaker 2: of that for week one.

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Speaker 4: Did you get your Yeah, I just got mine.

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Speaker 6: The other day I've given up. Hey, Jay, do we

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Speaker 6: have time I got. I want to talk about Roy

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Speaker 6: a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I did plenty of We talk so much about

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Speaker 5: the great I just don't want to have to put

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Speaker 5: a break. Just tell me to shut up, and we do.

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Speaker 5: Devaugh has had a great camp. You know, Potocosi, when

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Speaker 5: he's healthy, I think is a very good player. I

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Speaker 5: think we are under selling Roy Robertson Harris and it's

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Speaker 5: your point, Pete. He kind of tailed off in the middle.

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Speaker 5: But when he's good, he I mean, he's one of

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Speaker 5: the most powerful human beings on this team, and he

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Speaker 5: is so physical and he just overwhelms guys at times,

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Speaker 5: and I boy, if he could put it together a

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Speaker 5: seventeen game season where he is at that planet, that

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Speaker 5: consistent level, he's an amazing he's he helps him a lot,

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Speaker 5: and he'll help Josh Allen and Draymond Walker because of

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Speaker 5: the pushing of the pocket and there's crew. He does

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Speaker 5: such a good job with that that it'll give those

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Speaker 5: other guys more sack opportunities because the quarterback can't step.

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Speaker 4: Up and those guys are going to need better sack opportunity.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a big year for those guys.

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Speaker 4: Let's be real for both of them. For both we don't.

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Speaker 5: Talk an It's bigger for Josh only because it's a

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Speaker 5: contract year.

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Speaker 4: But it's also a walker It's it's.

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Speaker 5: It's important for walking around. What's the narrative going to

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Speaker 5: be around as player?

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Speaker 4: Correct? But but Josh Allen from a money standpoint, if

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Speaker 4: he goes out and gets thirteen fourteen sacks, they got

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Speaker 4: to they gotta keep them.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's it's from an overall career standpoint.

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Speaker 5: I know Josh wants to be here. He loves Jacksonville,

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Speaker 5: he loves the organization, he loves the fan base. You know,

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Speaker 5: his family's here. And I mean personally, I root the

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Speaker 5: root for the guy because I love everything about who

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Speaker 5: he is as an individual. But at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, it comes down to the business and if

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Speaker 5: you want to be here, you gotta go put up

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Speaker 5: double digit sack numbers.

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Speaker 4: If he has eight sacks as he come back next year, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't I don't think so, no, unless unless he wants

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Speaker 5: to sell for because if he gets eight zacks. Somebody

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Speaker 5: will pay him a bunch of money, right and Freeze.

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Speaker 5: They won't Jack, the Jags won't because it won't be

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Speaker 5: able to.

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Speaker 6: I mean, everyone has to keep this in mind.

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence does what we all believe he's gonna do

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Speaker 5: and what he's capable of doing, and who he is

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Speaker 5: as a player. I mean, this is not just potential.

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Speaker 5: This is just like how good he is. They're gonna

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Speaker 5: have to pay him fifty five to sixty million dollars

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Speaker 5: a year next year, correct, And so you gotta make it.

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Speaker 4: And if he does that, m because you gotta, you gotta.

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Speaker 4: You gotta assume that if he's having that kind of year,

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Speaker 4: then Ridley's having that Gundy.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, you can pay you can pay both of

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Speaker 5: them be But then you got to make decisions with

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Speaker 5: Kirk and other guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh I already did that for next year, because you

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Speaker 2: can make it, right, if you're paying Lawrence, you can

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Speaker 2: make it where the big money is a few years

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Speaker 2: down the line, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can all get creative with it. If you

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Speaker 4: want to make it work. Can make it work. But again,

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Speaker 4: for Josh Allen, if he has eight sacks, probably not

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Speaker 4: coming back if he has thirteen sacks, probably doing everything

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Speaker 4: you can to get him back. So it doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: like much, but five sacks going from eight to thirteen

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Speaker 4: is a significant number for a guy like him.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the other thing you got to think about it.

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Speaker 5: If Lawrence goes off, which means Ridley probably goes off,

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Speaker 5: and Josh Allen goes off, now you start getting I

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Speaker 5: don't care how creative you are, your accounting principles and

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Speaker 5: how you move things around, it still gets.

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Speaker 6: Tight paying three guys.

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Speaker 5: Now, the good news is we have an owner who

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Speaker 5: has plenty of cash, so it's not a cash issue

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Speaker 5: as far as signing bonuses and stuff like.

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Speaker 4: That, where it's for other teams with cash.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been an issue for some of the other

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Speaker 5: owners as far as having the cash to pay guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, Shot has proven.

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Speaker 5: I mean just look at everything he's done since he's

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Speaker 5: been here, whether it's paying players or building facilities and hotels.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he can afford it, and he wants to

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Speaker 5: be great. But at some point the CBA and the

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Speaker 5: cap comes into play. And I'm not an expert like

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Speaker 5: the guys that are in the building that think about

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Speaker 5: this all day. Long, But can you get three franchise players?

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Speaker 5: You know, pass Rusher one of the highest paid positions.

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Speaker 5: Receiver has eclipsed a lot of other positions on a roster.

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Speaker 5: Now as far as being high paid, that wasn't always

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Speaker 5: the case. And your quarterback, who is the guy who

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Speaker 5: gets all the money? Can you go pay those three

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Speaker 5: guys in one year and make it work with the cap?

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Speaker 5: And what are the casualties that happened? Now here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: If we are talking about that next year going in,

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Speaker 5: we're probably talking about it after we were in Vegas for.

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Speaker 6: The week at Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Correct, you're talking about a team that went deep at

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Speaker 4: least into.

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Speaker 6: The postseason or deep or yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, because if Josh Allen is thirteen, that means Trayvon

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 4: Walker is going to have twelve because you already told

1534
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 4: the world they're going to have twenty five the game there.

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: That adds up.

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01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 5: I do believe the official I think the official statement

1537
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 5: was twenty three to twenty five.

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 4: Oh you amended it from what I heard?

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01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 6: No, No, I did not.

1540
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 5: It was on the same show It's not my fault

1541
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 5: at ten ten and Franngie and Prosser and Hicken and

1542
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 5: all the other guys over there, edit me and don't

1543
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 5: tell the truth.

1544
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,879
Speaker 6: There might be a lossuit coming news.

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, You're gonna suit you suit him?

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 4: Now, that's great. I might Okay, so my chance to

1547
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 4: mend amend it.

1548
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: Why don't you call him out on their air right

1549
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,679
Speaker 2: now to the I might.

1550
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 6: Just I might just see Franzi so we make them

1551
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 6: booth more interesting during the regular season.

1552
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 4: You whole season between you and Francie. Okay, So okay,

1553
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 4: amended that. How many are they gonna have?

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 6: Twenty three, twenty five? I'm not gonna change it. That's

1555
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 6: what I said.

1556
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 4: Ah, that's a high. That's a big number, Tony. Have

1557
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 4: the Jaguars. Has Jacksonville ever had two guys that combined

1558
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 4: for twenty three sacks in a season?

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01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1560
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 5: The the year Klaas had sixteen or whatever he had.

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01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 4: And then got back and had nine or ten.

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: Have they ever had two edge players combined from twenty

1564
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 4: three to twenty five?

1565
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 6: The answer is no.

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01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 4: No, you're you're really really optimistic about those two.

1567
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 6: I'll be honest, Bee, there's a part of me that

1568
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 6: wants it to happen. So it's I'm being influenced out of.

1569
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 5: The biases towards rooting for them and wanting to believe

1570
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 5: I'm right.

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 6: But I agree with you, it's gonna if.

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01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 5: I was, if someone, if someone, you know, I would

1573
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: not be surprised if everyone in the country bedded on

1574
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 5: the under of the number I gave, and I could.

1575
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: It would be hard to argue because I don't have

1576
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 5: a lot of empirical proof, especially after camp in the

1577
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 5: early preseason that says that's gonna happen.

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 4: Are you worried about two Russia the past right now?

1579
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 4: After camp?

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 6: You are? I was very worried.

1581
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 5: And then I watched him up into the right and

1582
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 5: I thought Josh Allen and Trayvon Walker took it to

1583
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 5: Panay Sewell and Taylor Becker.

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Speaker 4: I did too.

1585
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 6: I was like, after what I saw.

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 5: Walker, Little Anton, Harrison, Harrison, due to our rushers, I'm like,

1587
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 5: Sewell and Taylor Becker gonna just beat us up. And

1588
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 5: I thought Trayvon and Josh really won the day. And

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Speaker 5: I don't want to, I mean, dominating might be a

1590
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 5: little bit of a stretch, but they had their way

1591
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 5: and got pressure of one of They won in the

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01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 5: one on one drills they had, they had really good

1593
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 5: pressure on golf, they squeezed the pocket, they would have

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 5: got a couple of sacks.

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Speaker 4: And Sewell is a big time tackle too. He's a

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01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 4: good player. You know, he is a pretty good player

1597
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 4: KG veteran. Yeah, that's not that's a good sign. That's

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01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: a really good sign. And by the way, this week

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01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 4: the Miami won't have Armstead and the right tackle. Your

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01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 4: former USC guy has had some moments of real problems.

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01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 4: He was better the other day though, and I think

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01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 4: that could be an opportunity for them to show pressure

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 4: and get after the quarterback a little bit.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, let's come back in a moment. Fanatics

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Speaker 2: fan Questions Plenty submitted on X Today It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 3: I thought Walker did a nice job at left guard.

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 3: He looked comfortable in there. You know, he's a big body.

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01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: He moved well. We wanted to see him, so we

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: set up a couple of runs where he could pull

1611
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: just a little bit, and so we wanted to see that.

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01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: And you know, loved his physicality in there. You know,

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01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 3: Cam probably not his best game, you know, I felt

1614
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 3: like he was on the ground a little bit too

1615
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 3: much and got beat a little bit. For somebody at

1616
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 3: his caliber, he should, you know, he should play better.

1617
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: He knows that.

1618
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: He understands that the guys come in today and get

1619
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 3: a chance to watch the tape with the coaches and

1620
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: make those corrections. But it was good to see both

1621
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 3: of those guys together though, and see the communication, the

1622
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: dialogue that those two had during the game, and you know,

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01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: hopefully that sets us up for things to come.

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01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: Here in the near future. That's the head coach, of course,

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Speaker 2: Doug Peterson. He spoke with the media this morning on

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Speaker 2: up with. Question one at treil Will ninety two, Gregory

1634
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 2: Junior deserves to get some run with the ones at

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01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 2: Nickel cornerback. Agree.

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 6: I mean I think he's they've tried him.

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 5: I mean, he's got an opportunities, and I think right now,

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01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 5: Trey's held them off at this point.

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01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 4: They're just comfortable with Trey. I think that's that's part

1640
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 4: of it. You know what you get with them. You

1641
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 4: don't know what you're gonna get with a younger guy.

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 4: So I think they're more comfortable with Trey.

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01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 6: I'd agree with you.

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: He's been part of three takeaways, one of those unspecial teams.

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01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 2: That helps, right, But like we've talked about before, it's

1646
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: more you got to be able to cover, right.

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 4: Didn't he recover that fumble on special teams and nothing

1648
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: when he recovers? Yes, yeah, that doesn't nothing for me.

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01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 4: I'd rather see a guy cover. I'd rather see a

1650
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: guy cover a guy, a man and man across the field,

1651
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 4: which Trey Herndon doesn't do very well.

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01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 5: I don't think he's gonna play a lot of man

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01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:44,759
Speaker 5: this year, Pete.

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01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 4: No, but you gotta admit when he gets caught in

1655
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 4: those man in man situations, he has problems with it.

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01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why I don't think they're gonna play much

1657
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 5: because I think Ultimately, Trey's gonna be your starting corner

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01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 5: when you roll out against the Colts on opening the day.

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01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 4: If they if you played Antonio Johnson at that nickel,

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 4: I don't think you could play a ton of man

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01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 4: the man with him right away either. If he got

1662
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 4: matched up with a receiver, that'd be a problem.

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01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 5: He can roll out, though, Pete he I mean, I

1664
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 5: agree with his a real shifty change direction, quick guy.

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01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 6: That might be a little bit of a concern. But

1666
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 6: he can run. He can move now. But he's a rookie,

1667
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 6: see it. So I'm with you. I agree with you.

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01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 2: Next question at Samuel ab Duval, can you explain the

1669
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 2: new NFL rule concerning keeping three quarterbacks on the roster?

1670
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: Are we in jeopardy of losing Rourke if designated the

1671
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 2: third quarterback going into the season. So the basic rule is,

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: the teams who are carrying two quarterbacks on their active

1673
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: roster on game day may carry a third emergency quarterback

1674
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: who does not count against the team's game day roster.

1675
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: So basically, you can have him up with no penalty

1676
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 2: on game day he is part of the fifty three.

1677
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 2: The emergency quarterback will not be allowed into the game

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01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: unless the two active quarterbacks are injured or disqualified from

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01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: the game, and that emergency quarterback must be removed from

1680
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 2: the game if either quarterback is medically cleared to return

1681
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 2: to play. So there you go, but you.

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01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 4: Have to keep him on the roster. And me and

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 4: Tony don't think he's going to be on the roster.

1684
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 4: He'll be on the practice squad, right.

1685
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 6: I agree?

1686
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the simple by JP explained, it perfectly

1687
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 5: impacts the fifty three man roster. If the counter towards

1688
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 5: that does not count against the active game day roster,

1689
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:37,520
Speaker 5: you can have an extra player.

1690
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 6: If it's a quarterback.

1691
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 4: It's the forty nine ers rule in the playoff game.

1692
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 6: That's why I think that's right, exactly right.

1693
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: But if it comes down to that, I mean, in

1694
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: most instances, your toast anyway, right, well.

1695
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 5: Your toast with JP with they don't want to happen

1696
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 5: is what happened against the forty nine ers, where you

1697
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 5: have two quarterbacks hurt and you literally can't even function

1698
01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 5: as an offense because you have no one back there.

1699
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, or like when Kendall Hinton had to play for

1700
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:05,160
Speaker 4: the Broncos back.

1701
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: In the day.

1702
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 4: You don't want any of that. Tom Maddy played quarterback

1703
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 4: for the Colt Smith's way back in the day, and

1704
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:11,719
Speaker 4: he had to have the plays.

1705
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 2: He was the first one. He was the first one

1706
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 2: that had the plays on his wrist. That wristband is

1707
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

1708
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't know what he didn't know any of

1709
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 4: the plays here. This is a legitimate question why we're

1710
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 4: talking about the back of court. Has Nathan Rourke played

1711
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:27,759
Speaker 4: better than Bether?

1712
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean just as far as on the field.

1713
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 4: Right if okay, so Tony, if it didn't have anything

1714
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 4: to do with the guy being in the room and

1715
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,839
Speaker 4: being a veteran and can handle and help the quarterback,

1716
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 4: would you keep Rourke or would you keep Bether?

1717
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 6: I keep Beth because he has a bigger sample size.

1718
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 5: Work has only done he's done at the Canadian level.

1719
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 4: He was good in the Football League man a ton

1720
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 4: of his games.

1721
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 6: He's still a very young player. Beth is a known commodity.

1722
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,040
Speaker 5: You're counting on that guy only to come in and

1723
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 5: everything hit the fan, And so I probably would not.

1724
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 6: And here's what we don't know. Just watching the tape,

1725
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 6: I would say Work has.

1726
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 5: Played better, But I don't know if he's going through

1727
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 5: the right read. How much of the offense does he command,

1728
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 5: like the what's the mental acuity that he has compared

1729
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 5: to Beth third of comprehending stuff, you know, making those

1730
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 5: right reads.

1731
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 6: Reading coverages and all that. You and I don't know that.

1732
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 6: It's hard for us to make that.

1733
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 5: But I hasn't played that well, I mean, he hasn't

1734
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 5: played bad and fine.

1735
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 4: Average, which is probably I would I keep Would I

1736
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 4: keep Rourke though? But I'd keep them on the practice

1737
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 4: squad for sure?

1738
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 6: Well, that's that's simple. That's a dumb answer. Would you

1739
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 6: keep this? Okay?

1740
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 4: Would you keep three? No, particularly with the offensive line

1741
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 4: of defensive line injuries, there's no way.

1742
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: All right, I've got a wild question is and this

1743
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,440
Speaker 2: is going to be a dumb one. So get ready

1744
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 2: on the practice just his development? Would he be better

1745
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: on the practice squad or playing back in the CFL

1746
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: or another league?

1747
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 6: Again, no practice squad.

1748
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: How many true reps will he get at quarterback on

1749
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 2: a practice.

1750
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 4: Well, he'll get he'll get scout team raps, He'll run

1751
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 4: scout team, be in, get in, get on a franchise,

1752
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 4: get in as.

1753
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: System, getting the pipeline, and maybe you.

1754
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 5: Move the pipeline, and he has to have a long

1755
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 5: view because if you can, if he makes practice squad

1756
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 5: does a good job this year going into next year,

1757
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 5: then it's a real competition for the backup.

1758
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 4: Well, he looks tiny. How big is he listed at?

1759
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,799
Speaker 2: He has listed at six one, two ten. I believe

1760
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 2: he's not.

1761
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can rip it though, he can rip the ball, and.

1762
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 5: He's a gutty guy. He's one of those guys. He

1763
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,919
Speaker 5: just finds a way to buy time and he's interesting.

1764
01:24:54,960 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't is he Is he as sharp?

1765
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about making the right reads and

1766
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 4: go to progressions. That's where yeah, ruck Perty is very

1767
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 4: good at that.

1768
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: All right, Next question at ste Winters. With the overall

1769
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: depth performing well in the first two preseason games. On

1770
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 2: the offensive defense, who do you see contributing most in

1771
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 2: a rotation basis on the interior D line and defensive backfield.

1772
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: So D line and defensive backs.

1773
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, I think it's and Lacy on the

1774
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 5: defense the interior on the interior D line, you want

1775
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 5: to include pass rushers, you're gonna I mean, I think

1776
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 5: Duance move when he gets back second half of the year.

1777
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to play five. You're gonna have to

1778
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,480
Speaker 4: play eight games, seven games with without him, So who's.

1779
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 6: The second thing you're gonna have to get something out of?

1780
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 6: Chase On I think he ends up being your third

1781
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 6: pass rusher.

1782
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 4: And then what was the other part of that question

1783
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 4: was the secondary secondary?

1784
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,040
Speaker 6: I have no idea rotation.

1785
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: When he's healthy Johnson right, when he's healthy, But.

1786
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 6: He's not healthy, I'm saying it's to be I mean,

1787
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 6: I I think, how bad is his injury to hammy?

1788
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's a tweak or pull.

1789
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I've heard it's going to be

1790
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 5: an exten extensive amount of time, so it's a bad handy.

1791
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 6: They didn't say bad handy, but.

1792
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: Based on the time frame they gave, it sounds like

1793
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 5: it's something okay.

1794
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 4: So then there's there's no youth in that secondary unless

1795
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 4: they decide to go in another direction at the nickel corner.

1796
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: Yep, I think it's I think it's just I think

1797
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 5: it's the same starting five you had last year when

1798
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 5: you were done.

1799
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 6: With the season.

1800
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 4: I think Braswell is an interesting player, though I think

1801
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 4: he gets better as as it gets as he keeps

1802
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 4: playing more. The question with him is can he run

1803
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 4: well enough?

1804
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 6: Well, it's the same question you have with Trey Herdon. Well,

1805
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 6: actually know the answer to that. You can't put man.

1806
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 4: He can't play man.

1807
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: Next question at unders p W three Underscore. If someone

1808
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: told you only one person from this draft class would

1809
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: be an elite Pro Bowl player in years to come,

1810
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: who are you choosing and why?

1811
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:16,839
Speaker 4: Anton Harrison?

1812
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 6: Harrison, Oh that's easy, Tony, Yeah, it's a no brainer.

1813
01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 6: I was trying.

1814
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 5: I was going down the roster, but I think Anton

1815
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 5: Harrison will be a pro bowler.

1816
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 4: Okay, let me while we're talking about the rookie clusters.

1817
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 4: We haven't got there real quick. Tank Bixby is a

1818
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 4: good player. He needs to quick bouncing everything though, and

1819
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: just run sometimes. And that was a criticism of it all.

1820
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 4: That was a criticism of him at Auburn too. He's

1821
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 4: a physical runner. Just go go, Pete.

1822
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 5: I think he'll learn the hard you know, right now,

1823
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 5: he's getting outside, it's working and so until you know.

1824
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 5: But now when you get into the regular season, when

1825
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,759
Speaker 5: you're playing top line guys with more speed on the field,

1826
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 5: I think that'll be more difficult for new and I

1827
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 5: think he'll learn.

1828
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 4: But you didn't you watch the tape of the game.

1829
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 4: I'm sure and you saw the game. There were moments

1830
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 4: where he had he had a running lane right in

1831
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 4: front of him and he decided to bounce. Now, you're right.

1832
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 4: He got outside and made a couple of plays, but

1833
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 4: then on one of those bounces out he got tackled

1834
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 4: for no gain. And I think he's just got to

1835
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 4: go because he's a physical runner. Just put your head

1836
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 4: down and go, put your goat between tackles.

1837
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 6: And that's what they like about him. It's a one

1838
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 6: cut downhill. I think they like you. You'll see a

1839
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 6: lot of inside inside zone with him.

1840
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's gonna have to learn to trust it

1841
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 5: inside because he definitely has the ability.

1842
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 6: He's a good runner.

1843
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 4: He's a good runner.

1844
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: One more question, final one at Dua Stan forty two eleven.

1845
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: What's holding the Jags front office back from going all

1846
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 2: in and trading for an elite edge rusher such as

1847
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 2: Khalil Macker Chandler Jones, a guy that would instantly make

1848
01:28:51,439 --> 01:28:54,839
Speaker 2: us better and potentially move Trayvon Walker to defensive tackle.

1849
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Well, first off, Chandler Jones isn't an elite pass rusher.

1850
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 4: He's a good player. He didn't play that well last

1851
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: year was hurt and then Khalil Mack. There would the

1852
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 4: Chargers think they're good? Why are they gonna get rid

1853
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 4: of Khalil Mack?

1854
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 5: And you're not going to do it to your cap,

1855
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 5: You're not gonna do it. They because here's what, like

1856
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 5: everyone needs to realize this. They believe Traymon Walker is

1857
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 5: it outside Russia. They don't believe that he's a defensive tackle.

1858
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 5: And so until that changes, why would they go trade

1859
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 5: for a player to take time away from Traymon Walker

1860
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 5: and all like that?

1861
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 4: If you did, let's just say for the sake of

1862
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,000
Speaker 4: the argument, they did go get Khalil Mack. Where's Travon

1863
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 4: Walker play? They kick him inside? They have to, right,

1864
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 4: he has.

1865
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 5: To kick That's I mean, it's it's that's a fun

1866
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 5: thing to talk about on radio.

1867
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 6: But it's not gonna happen.

1868
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 4: But in everybody in Jacksonville was all upset when they

1869
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,639
Speaker 4: didn't get justin Houston. They didn't get who's the other one?

1870
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,879
Speaker 4: They did Clowney, I mean Clowney in his two sacks.

1871
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: He's not an elite edge rusher.

1872
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 6: No, but Houston and Clowney would have been different. You're

1873
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 6: getting depth there.

1874
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 5: Those of they would have taken the role of an

1875
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 5: ardent Key.

1876
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 2: Yep.

1877
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:08,240
Speaker 4: Not as good as ard and Key.

1878
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 6: But I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just telling you

1879
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 6: that's what they would have got. Those guys with feet.

1880
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 4: But try and they try and kept, they try to

1881
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 4: keep Ardent Key and and he just decided to go

1882
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 4: to the I mean they made an legitimate offered Arden Key,

1883
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 4: they wanted to keep them around.

1884
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 6: I don't remember the economics. I'm sure you got more

1885
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 6: at Tennessee.

1886
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 4: Though not much more, though I don't think you have it.

1887
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 2: Fanatics, fan questions, and if you're a Jags fan who's

1888
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1895
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 3: I like it because we we get a chance to

1896
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 3: get through this week, you know, in preparation for for

1897
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,360
Speaker 3: our final preseason game. There's still gonna be some some

1898
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 3: opportunities for our young players to play potentially here in

1899
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 3: the second half.

1900
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:22,839
Speaker 2: And and there's.

1901
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: Still some ongoing you know, I think some some battles,

1902
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: some some competition that that you know, we need to

1903
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,040
Speaker 3: see these guys in in in you know, real games.

1904
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 3: So h it is beneficial for everybody to practice. It

1905
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 3: gives us one more one more week here, you know,

1906
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 3: seven eight days, uh to to evaluate this team.

1907
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach, this morning, in a zoom

1908
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 2: call with the media, welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, final

1909
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 2: moments on this Monday afternoon and the band is back together.

1910
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:52,560
Speaker 6: J P.

1911
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 2: Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony BISSELLI. It sounded good today, by the.

1912
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 6: Way, Yeah, really good.

1913
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 5: A shout out to Max and the whole team back

1914
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 5: there for working through the technical issues we had last week.

1915
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 6: New studio, a lot of changes going on, and.

1916
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 5: Uh, Max Reaber, you know, the whole team back there

1917
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 5: did a great job, all our engineers of getting us

1918
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 5: up and so thank you very much for the They

1919
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,520
Speaker 5: put a lot of a lot of hours.

1920
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 6: And a lot of work into it. So good job.

1921
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 4: Guys and JP's in the fancy news studio over there.

1922
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh, it's nice, it's spacious. Uh, you

1923
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 2: guys aren't here though. I mean I got rooms.

1924
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been in that one before.

1925
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 2: It's nice.

1926
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, you interviewed me in there.

1927
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: I have yes, And Tony was in here. What was

1928
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 2: that last week? Two weeks ago?

1929
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 6: Tony, Yeah, two weeks ago.

1930
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. But at some point we got to get

1931
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 2: us all together in one room. When's that going to happen?

1932
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 2: I don't think that's.

1933
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 6: Well, when we do that, we got to go to

1934
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 6: the couch.

1935
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 2: You know what happened. Uh the time that could have happened,

1936
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Tony decided to leave early.

1937
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 4: Pete. I think that's what happened. Here's when we'll do

1938
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 4: together the Monday in Vegas before the Superoo like that?

1939
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 6: Oh? I like that one.

1940
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 2: I like that a lot. I like that a lot,

1941
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 2: a whole lot. All right, So preseason Week three starters

1942
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 2: are going a half or so, the Dolphins and the

1943
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 2: Jaguars coming up, and what else do you want to see?

1944
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: I mean, what what is a successful preseason Week three?

1945
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Outside of everybody staying healthy? We know that obviously, what

1946
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 2: do you want to see Pete from the starters.

1947
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,479
Speaker 4: I want to see Cam Robinson play better.

1948
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 6: I want to see I don't think he's starting, Pete.

1949
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 4: Well, he's not starting, but he's gonna play. He's gonna

1950
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 4: play what he does.

1951
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 6: Why don't you listen to the question, what do.

1952
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 4: You didn't ask about the starters?

1953
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:44,880
Speaker 6: Yes, the game.

1954
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 5: He just asked the game starters, the starters, Pete, idiot?

1955
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 4: Okay, what do I want to see from the starters? Well,

1956
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 4: how do you know he's not starting? He might start

1957
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 4: at left tackle, he might start walker little at left guard.

1958
01:33:58,120 --> 01:33:59,679
Speaker 2: Ben Bart was probably getting time.

1959
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 4: This I want to see. I want to see the

1960
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 4: pass for us show up in a big way, knock

1961
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 4: the guy down, knock to it down a little bit.

1962
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 4: And don't you want to see how they handle the

1963
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 4: speed of those receivers.

1964
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I agree with both those things. On defense,

1965
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 5: I want to see our secondary matchup. The big test

1966
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 5: is they got great receivers.

1967
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 6: They have a ton of speed.

1968
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 5: I want to see Trayvon and Josh dominate, like, be

1969
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 5: disruptive and then offensively, I want to see our offense, Hume,

1970
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 5: I want to see them in a rhythm, you know,

1971
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 5: staying on schedule. You know, I'd like to see two

1972
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 5: touchdowns in the first half.

1973
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 4: I think the offense. I think the offense has the

1974
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 4: potential to put at least ten points on in their

1975
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,559
Speaker 4: first half. Maybe you're right, maybe two touchdowns. When you

1976
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 4: look at that offense, I think they're going to be

1977
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 4: dynamic this year. I really do. I think they're going

1978
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 4: to a chance to push for the lead the league

1979
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 4: in scoring. That's how good I think they can be.

1980
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 6: H You know, Okay, so this real quick.

1981
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 4: Anton Harrison can be better than Jawan Taylor. Yes or no? Yes,

1982
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 4: I would agree with you.

1983
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 6: He's more athletic than Juwan.

1984
01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 4: You're correct. So if Walker Little and Anton Harrison are

1985
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 4: playing really well, they're just as good as the Chiefs tackles.

1986
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 4: Because Smith and Taylor there's they could be as good

1987
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 4: as those two. The problem is the interior of the

1988
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 4: Chiefs offensive line is outstanding.

1989
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 6: Very good.

1990
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 5: I mean, they're their center, right guard, and Tony's no

1991
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 5: slouch either.

1992
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 6: But their tier three pet are really good.

1993
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jacksonville's interior three could be good if they could

1994
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 4: solidify the left guard spot.

1995
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, because I agree.

1996
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 4: Fortner takes his game to another level this year.

1997
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 6: But he's he as good as what's the kid's name.

1998
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 4: No, he's not as a Creed Humphrey.

1999
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 6: No, Creed Humphrey.

2000
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 5: And then Tray Smith on the right tag right guard good, yeah.

2001
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 6: Cooney is they just solid, like just every down, ready

2002
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 6: to go. Guy, they're good.

2003
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 4: They're good in the middle of that line.

2004
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 6: That's where they're very good.

2005
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: Pete, coming up for the game Saturday, you should no

2006
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Man, it's your hometown team down there.

2007
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 4: And you know what when they say down here, Jacksonville

2008
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 4: is my hometown team. That's what they all say to me.

2009
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 4: I'm the mayor. They give me so much crap I

2010
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 4: make I make a pick just to make a pick,

2011
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 4: and they go, You're just hometown mayor. You know that

2012
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 4: kind of You actually have a graphic where I'm the

2013
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 4: mayor of Jacksonville.

2014
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 2: Really can we get that? We got to be able

2015
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: to get that right.

2016
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 5: So Pete, now I know I feel about the years

2017
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,839
Speaker 5: are doing the show, A few of you basically questioning

2018
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 5: every pick I make because I'm a Jaguar homer, so you.

2019
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 4: Never believed yours though. That's the difference. I believe mine.

2020
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 6: I believe mine I believe all mine the.

2021
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 4: Year what year were they like four wins and Tony

2022
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 4: said they were gonna win eleven games or something I missed.

2023
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 6: It's not that I didn't believe it.

2024
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 4: You didn't believe it because we talked golf air. You

2025
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: didn't believe it.

2026
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:04,599
Speaker 6: You were just that's not true.

2027
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 4: Every lock I make, I believe you haven't made any locks.

2028
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we only have one on the books. It's from Pete.

2029
01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 6: I'm waiting, waiting.

2030
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 4: I made my lock.

2031
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 6: All the lock opening day.

2032
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 5: It might be, it might be I might bring it early,

2033
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 5: an early double lockout.

2034
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,519
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a that's a deep tease. We're a long

2035
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: way away from week one. That's Tony Maselli.

2036
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 4: Oh, it's only three weeks away.

2037
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:38,000
Speaker 2: Cox Sick And that's Pete Prisco. Thanks for our entire crew,

2038
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,800
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2039
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2040
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2041
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