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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Robert Stanley back with us. Author of Close Encounters on

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Speaker 2: Capitol Hill and Covert Encounters in Washington, d C. He

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Speaker 2: has served as a correspondent for America's Morning News in

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Speaker 2: America's Radio News Network. Robert has traveled to more than

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Speaker 2: fifty countries during his lifelong pursuit of modern and ancient mysteries,

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Speaker 2: and for the past forty plus years, his quest for

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Speaker 2: unique ideas and information has led him to research and

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Speaker 2: report on many controversial topics. His work has been featured

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Speaker 2: on radio, print, television, and the Internet, and of course,

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Speaker 2: his email, which we'll tell you about later. Robert, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How've you bad.

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: George?

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Speaker 2: How are you all good? All good? This study by

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Speaker 2: Harvard University in Montana Tech and logical is very strange

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Speaker 2: that aliens could be living amongas. What do you think

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Speaker 2: of that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to keep up with all the terminology.

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Speaker 3: They keep changing it. So UFOs are now UAP, and

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Speaker 3: extraterrestrials are now ultraterrestrials and or crypto terrestrials. And you

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Speaker 3: know that I told you this so many times before.

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Speaker 3: It's we're never going to know for sure what's going

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Speaker 3: on until we actually have a dialogue, open dialogue with

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Speaker 3: at least one group of extraterrestrials.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion, yeah, how can they come out?

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Speaker 3: All these are interesting, George, but honestly they're not. It's

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Speaker 3: a lot of speculation. It kind of makes my head spend.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how can they come out with a report

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Speaker 2: Where does that come from?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, so Abbi Lobe is an astronomer at Harvard,

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Speaker 3: and again they're pretty Yeah. You think somebody's also heading

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Speaker 3: up something called the Galileo Project, and they claim that

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Speaker 3: But again, even if you did, let's say they get

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Speaker 3: something that they consider to be incontrovertible proof for data.

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Speaker 3: They always like to use that word data, it still

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Speaker 3: doesn't answer the question as to okay, well, who are

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Speaker 3: these beings, how long have they been here? What is

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Speaker 3: are you Why are you here secretly?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? Do a little more public notice here? Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: do you think they look like us? Saw the alien

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Speaker 3: About, Apparently it's all kinds of things of humanoid beings.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Commander Robert Dean, who I miss a

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Speaker 3: very differend what he said about the assessment briefing that

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Speaker 3: that they were talking about groups like reptilians, tall grays,

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Speaker 3: short grays, and then the group that actually scared them,

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Speaker 3: according to Bob, was a huss ones that looked exactly

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons of the study by

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Speaker 2: AUVI and Montana University that they could be walking among us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I have thought for a while that maybe

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Speaker 3: that's what all the surveillance is about. With the digital technology,

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Speaker 3: it's it's sword. Yeah, it's great, we can communicate wherever

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Speaker 3: and it makes me wonder maybe that was part of

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Speaker 2: Why live here covertly? Why live here in secret? There's

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right? And okay, So Christian's call it

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Speaker 3: the war in heaven, and I'm okay if that's true,

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Speaker 2: Robert, as we get into tonight with you, give us

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Speaker 3: Oh Josh.

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Speaker 2: Can of worms? Right?

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Speaker 3: Sure? Okay, you mean about about Earth or just about

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Speaker 3: certainly not the original creation. In other words, again we'll

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Speaker 3: It Obviously it's not here. This isn't heaven. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not complaining. It's it's nice and everything, but we've got

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Speaker 3: There's something about this what we call our universe. There's

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Speaker 3: something to me. It seems flawed, which doesn't make sense

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Speaker 3: God is perfect and loving, how could a loving, perfect

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Speaker 3: More importantly, how could a loving god create us in

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, we are punished for being that way.

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Speaker 3: It just there's a lot of things that don't make

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Speaker 3: sense to me, George, since you asked them, you got

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Speaker 3: to understand too. It's really early in the morning for me,

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Speaker 2: We'll get it cooking.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a huge question. I wasn't expecting you to

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Speaker 3: ask me that. And I'm you know. The other thing is,

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Speaker 2: No, you're right, absolutely, And let's let's bring it home

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Speaker 2: a little bit. If there are UFO bases here, where

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Speaker 3: Apparently both and and I guess I'd have to say

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Speaker 3: even though they don't look they're humanoid, but they don't

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Speaker 2: They might have seated us. I'm sorry, they might have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's right. And hence the name of the

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Speaker 3: title of the book, co Evolution. It's a really complicated,

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Speaker 3: convoluted story. Our history is really not that simple. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: When you wrote covert Encounters in Washington, DC and close

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Speaker 3: Naivete originally, and that's how you and I met got

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Speaker 3: I am still trying. I'm putting it out there to

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Speaker 3: some huge questions to that. George, It's hard for me

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Speaker 2: But no, you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, thank you. You're being very patient because

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to articulate. When I got those pictures, originally

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Speaker 2: And this was really before there was photo shopping and

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Speaker 3: There was photoshop. Yeah, but the thing was he as

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Speaker 3: Otherwise they wouldn't have sent that helicopter to my house.

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Speaker 3: then the undertended consequence was I started looking deeper, beginning

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Speaker 3: I said, hey, you know I having a problem. They said, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: I would have to say that is definitely a matter

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Speaker 3: am very well to America. I've traveled with fifty nine countries.

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Speaker 3: And they've been doing it for decades. I'm not the

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Speaker 2: Well that's because of your background. I mean, it's got

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Speaker 3: I knew there was extraterrestrial UFO activity for sure prior

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Speaker 3: The other thing that's weird, George, is a lot of

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Speaker 3: Because I mean, I'm not sure exactly why, but for

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Speaker 2: Kind of strange it's a great story. That nineteen fifty

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Speaker 3: It is, but you know, like okay, so, like I

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