Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.
Speaker 1: Let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Albarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, New Pacific, the Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: six Eastern. Well it's Thursday here on the program. You
Speaker 1: know that means we got a w Dynamite to talk
Speaker 1: about here today, and a lot happened on Dynamite. We
Speaker 1: have the World Championship vacated, which was gonna happen one
Speaker 1: way or the other because c HM Punk is injured
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be out a long long time if
Speaker 1: he ever returns. Six man titles vacated, which tells me
Speaker 1: there is a feeling that whatever is going on maybe
Speaker 1: going on for a while. Investigations, potential legal issues. So
Speaker 1: we have new a w World six man tag team
Speaker 1: champions We can tell you about that, and a lot
Speaker 1: of build towards the upcoming Arthur Ash show, which is
Speaker 1: two weeks away. So we can talk about Dynamite here tonight.
Speaker 1: A lot to talk about their the injury update on
Speaker 1: CM Punk. Jake Hager has resigned Malachi black All the
Speaker 1: Best a Malachi Blackie's been pulled from some indie lineups,
Speaker 1: quote due to health issues. We'll tell you about that.
Speaker 1: And the Raw show Monday. We've got the ratings in
Speaker 1: and I was I mean, I was not like, you know,
Speaker 1: super blown away excited by that Raw show, but um
Speaker 1: did good did a good number and uh like a
Speaker 1: shocking we could number. Actually it was like the show
Speaker 1: was bad. But these Triple eight shows, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: not bad and they're not stupid, but it's not like
Speaker 1: they're super excited eating blow away shows every week. They're
Speaker 1: simple shows. We're building to the pay per views, good matches, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And this was a simple show. I mean, there's some
Speaker 1: good wrestling, but it wasn't like, hey, this is happening,
Speaker 1: this big angl blah blah blah. Still did a very
Speaker 1: good number. So people are watching, and uh, who would
Speaker 1: have thought acceptable pro wrestling show often good doing better?
Speaker 1: Anyway back in a moment, Talk a Story Observer live
Speaker 1: backing the show. Bran Elvera is here Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. You seem amused.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell y'all the story, everybody, the ballot of
Speaker 1: the thug Bucks. You're fun no box? Yeah yeah, they
Speaker 1: they spammed the door with super kicks and knock that
Speaker 1: thing off the hinges and then Brandon Cutler spraying it
Speaker 1: with a cold spray. Listen to everybody. I didn't even
Speaker 1: really want to talk about this. I thought about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, should I really even address this, because
Speaker 1: if I'm let me get to it, let me get
Speaker 1: to it, all right. I was like, should I even
Speaker 1: address this because I may do. All these nerds are
Speaker 1: gonna go, oh, he's chosen sides. Listen, some of you've
Speaker 1: already chosen sides. So like, if you've already chosen your side, like,
Speaker 1: just go listen to another podcast, because I know there's
Speaker 1: a podcast out there that will tell you whatever your
Speaker 1: side is. Okay, I'm just trying to tell you the facts,
Speaker 1: all right. So yesterday and I don't even know where
Speaker 1: this came from, but I got an idea. The story
Speaker 1: suddenly came out. The young Bucks kicked down that door. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I wasn't I wasn't there for the fight. Okay,
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, but you know what, I you know
Speaker 1: where I was. I was like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how far away I was from the locker room, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't that far. I was in the building in
Speaker 1: the bowels of the now arena, the catacombs, and I'll
Speaker 1: just start, I'll just you know, this is not the
Speaker 1: Old West. And there were like two wooden swinging doors
Speaker 1: or some plywood door or something like that. Bro, these
Speaker 1: were big, thick metal doors. Okay, you ain't going and
Speaker 1: kicking that door down now, even if you go, well,
Speaker 1: you know it's two guys, you know that double super
Speaker 1: kick and a v trigger, they might have taken that
Speaker 1: door down. Listen, where did this story come from? Sunday night? Okay,
Speaker 1: Sunday night, I heard, uh, what happened? Various stories from
Speaker 1: people that were affiliated with both sides, however you want
Speaker 1: to term it. People that were sympathetic to punk and
Speaker 1: people that were sympathetic to the Box. Okay, I heard
Speaker 1: the I heard versions from both sides. I heard versions
Speaker 1: from both sides. Monday. I heard versions from both sides Tuesday. Okay.
Speaker 1: Some of the versions were a little bit different. Okay,
Speaker 1: but certain things were not disputed by either side. Nobody
Speaker 1: Sunday night disputed. Let see him punk through the first punch.
Speaker 1: It was disputed as to why. And what I heard
Speaker 1: Sunday and what I heard Monday and what I heard
Speaker 1: Tuesday from the punk side was the Bucks entered the
Speaker 1: room aggressively. Okay, But Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, nobody, nobody from
Speaker 1: either side said the young Bucks kicked the door down.
Speaker 1: Nobody then Wednesday, they've kicked the door down. Listen, there
Speaker 1: ain't much funny about the story, but I laughed at
Speaker 1: the story of the young Bucks kicking down this five
Speaker 1: inch steel door. I mean, bro, come on, if you
Speaker 1: have chosen your side. If you have chosen your side, fine, okay.
Speaker 1: If you are sympathetic to punk, you know there is
Speaker 1: a story from their side that you can go with.
Speaker 1: But now they kicked down They didn't kick down the door.
Speaker 1: Nobody said they kicked down the door. Nobody from punk
Speaker 1: side said they kicked down the door. Nobody from obviously
Speaker 1: the Buck side, said that they kicked down the door.
Speaker 1: Nobody kicked down the door. Now here's another one that
Speaker 1: people gonna go, Oh, Brian's defending the Bucks. I'm not
Speaker 1: defending the Bucks. I'm just trying to tell you what
Speaker 1: happened from both sides. Okay. The other one I heard was, well,
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't kick down the door, but they
Speaker 1: entered the room and it was three on one, and thus,
Speaker 1: you know, Punk had to knew what he did. Okay, Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they entered the room, except that
Speaker 1: they didn't kick down the door, but it wasn't three
Speaker 1: on one. If you're a defender of Punk and you
Speaker 1: want to say that they aggressively entered and he felt
Speaker 1: he had to defend himself, that's fine. Okay, maybe that's
Speaker 1: what happened. We're all gonna find out when they when
Speaker 1: they interview everybody and they do their But what is
Speaker 1: factually incorrect is that it was ever three on one.
Speaker 1: What did a steel just materialize out of thin air
Speaker 1: once it hit the fan. There were many people in
Speaker 1: the room when the Young Bucks came in. I can't
Speaker 1: give you the exact number, but it was close to
Speaker 1: if not a half dozen. Punk was not in there
Speaker 1: all by himself, There were multiple people in the room.
Speaker 1: The Young Bucks didn't come into the room alone. They
Speaker 1: came in with the head of legal She didn't help
Speaker 1: kick the door down. Okay. I understand people have decided
Speaker 1: who's at fault and everything like that. They're investigating this
Speaker 1: and we will find out who they believe in the
Speaker 1: end was at fault, okay, but it does not help
Speaker 1: matters to make up stories about the young bucks kicking
Speaker 1: the door down, punk being one on three as he's
Speaker 1: in the room alone, he wasn't. Okay, there were people
Speaker 1: in the room, a number of them. More people came in,
Speaker 1: and you know it was from multiple sources. It was
Speaker 1: three to five seconds before. There were tons of people
Speaker 1: in that room. So this isn't No one was there,
Speaker 1: no one witnessed it. You're giving one side or the other.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm giving one side by telling
Speaker 1: you that whoever told the story about the door being
Speaker 1: kicked down, that did not happen. And that's from all sides, okay,
Speaker 1: And it was not a three on one whatever. I mean, dude,
Speaker 1: can we just waiting until this thing is wrapped up
Speaker 1: and we've got like anyway? No, of course they can't.
Speaker 1: And also, do you have any more post press conference
Speaker 1: fan fick that you'd like to let us know about,
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that the young bucks were going
Speaker 1: and stomping through doors, and there's all this other stuff
Speaker 1: that's uh that's come out. Have you read read it
Speaker 1: for any other types of what's the most entertaining story,
Speaker 1: most ridiculous story you've seen from this? The young bucks
Speaker 1: kicking down a solid steel door? Are you sure to
Speaker 1: get inside with the head illegal behind them? That is
Speaker 1: the funniest thing I heard in all of this. I
Speaker 1: don't know. People wanted saying that they were grappling with
Speaker 1: Larry and all that other stuff too. Now it seems
Speaker 1: that they were grappling with Well, everybody has had a
Speaker 1: field day with so I mean, I don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you did? You just, you know,
Speaker 1: justify it by talking about on the radio something that's
Speaker 1: so completely ridiculous and so easy to shoot down and
Speaker 1: has been shot. Here you go and give credence. I
Speaker 1: want to say this because I'm I'm a fair man. Listen,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things about the brawl where
Speaker 1: there are in fact different stories. Okay, I'll give you
Speaker 1: an example. Larry the dog was in the room. Okay.
Speaker 1: There there there are stories out that Kenny Omega was
Speaker 1: attempting to rescue Larry the Dog. Okay, but I have
Speaker 1: also heard that in fact, it was Mega who rescued
Speaker 1: the dog. Okay, it was it was a melee. It
Speaker 1: could have been one, it could have been the other,
Speaker 1: it could have been both. But bro, I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: that is something that is in dispute, and maybe we'll know,
Speaker 1: maybe we won't. I don't know what and and honestly,
Speaker 1: that doesn't have anything to do with what happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: somebody rescued the dog, but it is in dispute who
Speaker 1: actually rescued the dog. Different people who were there had
Speaker 1: different people rescuing the dog, Okay, but nobody had the
Speaker 1: door being kicked down. That's my point. There are certain
Speaker 1: things here that are in dispute, and there are other
Speaker 1: things that aren't in dispute. Yet somehow these stories are
Speaker 1: out there. So no, I don't know who saved Larry
Speaker 1: the Dog. I say, I'm looking at the chat right now.
Speaker 1: The Wrestling News cannot confirm that Larry the Dog was suspended,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to wait until later on. Hopefully
Speaker 1: Dave's got an update on well. I can tell you
Speaker 1: that Larry the Dog was not suspended because Larry the
Speaker 1: Dog was not under contract. But he's not going to
Speaker 1: be allowed. You know, they're not gonna pay. It would
Speaker 1: be like his gear. Even if he brings his gear,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna let him in the building anymore. Would
Speaker 1: he have been able to get out of the stump
Speaker 1: puller easier than you, You wouldn't have gotten the stump
Speaker 1: puller on the dog, I can tell you that much.
Speaker 1: So here's the deal everyone, as we get back from
Speaker 1: the break, they did strip CM Punk of the championship.
Speaker 1: They did strip the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega of
Speaker 1: the trios titles. We already have new trios champions and
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a tournament that will wrap
Speaker 1: up at Arthur Ash And at that point, um we'll
Speaker 1: find out with the new champions where they go and
Speaker 1: I'll talk about more details after the break Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Back in the show. Bran Elbert is here Wrestling Observer Live.
Speaker 1: Mike Sumburviv also Wrestling Observe dot Com. So Young Bucks,
Speaker 1: Kenny Omega and See Him Punk have all been stripped
Speaker 1: of their titles. And of course I mentioned stuff last
Speaker 1: night and I picked I didn't pick sides pick sides.
Speaker 1: I said, I understand Punk being stripped, but I don't
Speaker 1: understand Kenny Omega and the Bucks being stripped necessarily. And
Speaker 1: it's not because I picked sides. It's because Sam Punk
Speaker 1: has a torn triceps surgery. He's not gonna be out
Speaker 1: for I don't know what he's gonna come back. I mean,
Speaker 1: if nothing had happened, if nothing had happened Sunday at
Speaker 1: the presser and afterwards, then apparently we have no audio
Speaker 1: on Twitch. So whatever button we gotta push for that one.
Speaker 1: We'll be back soon, everybody. I got it back up
Speaker 1: on Twitch. Good. Are we good? Now? No sound? No? Alright? Thursday, y'all?
Speaker 1: Well anyway, so my my should I start over again?
Speaker 1: Poor audio listeners are like screw these video nerds? Okay, listen.
Speaker 1: I said yesterday that I understood Punk being stripped, but
Speaker 1: I didn't understand the young Bucks Kenny being stripped. So
Speaker 1: of course everyone freaked out. But this is the point.
Speaker 1: See him Punk, if nothing had happened, if nothing had happened,
Speaker 1: if he won the title from Moxley, had a great
Speaker 1: press conference, there was no fight, nothing. Punk was still
Speaker 1: being stripped on Wednesday because he tore his triceps in
Speaker 1: the match, and he's out eight months a year. I
Speaker 1: don't even know how long. So I mean it makes
Speaker 1: sense to strip him. Now, Young Bucks and Kenny Omega,
Speaker 1: I mean they might be back next week, they might
Speaker 1: be back the week after. So by stripping the Young
Speaker 1: Bucks and Kenny as well, that tells me that they
Speaker 1: have no timeline as to when this investigation is going
Speaker 1: to be wrapped up. And I know everybody just oh,
Speaker 1: there should be done in a few days, just interview everybody. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. You don't know how long corporation.
Speaker 1: This is not, I mean the ears the thing. It's
Speaker 1: not just well who was in the wrong? Okay, who who? Who?
Speaker 1: This is probably gonna be litigated, and you don't want
Speaker 1: to screw this up, so uh, we may not see
Speaker 1: this investigation wrapped up for a while. And if it's
Speaker 1: not wrapped up for a while, you've got to strip
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega as well. Now, you
Speaker 1: could have done the interim thing again because they have
Speaker 1: set the precedent that you know, if somebody can't defend
Speaker 1: the titles for one reason or the other, you create
Speaker 1: an interim championship. But apparently they've just decided that nope,
Speaker 1: they're all being stripped, and uh, we have new trios champions.
Speaker 1: The Death Triangle beat the Best Friends, so they won
Speaker 1: the Trios titles, which means that Pok is now a
Speaker 1: double champion. He's got the All Atlantic title as well,
Speaker 1: and they are doing a tournament to determine who will
Speaker 1: be the new champion and that person will be crowned
Speaker 1: at Arthur Ash. So you know, there's solved. Situation has
Speaker 1: been a disaster, but if it ends up with a
Speaker 1: unified lock a room and you know, quite frankly, after
Speaker 1: everything that happened with Punk and the Moxley storyline and
Speaker 1: now this tournament, I mean, we have we may have
Speaker 1: a seven week stretch of one plus million viewers as
Speaker 1: a result of all of this, because we're going on
Speaker 1: three weeks now. It probably did a million last night,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. And then you've got two more
Speaker 1: weeks in Arthur Ash when they're crowning a champion on
Speaker 1: free TV. I mean, you know, viewership wise, this was
Speaker 1: an excellent thing that happened to them. And uh, I
Speaker 1: did hear that they did a raw Ross speech last
Speaker 1: night before the show and The feeling that I got
Speaker 1: from people was that people felt good last night. Ah,
Speaker 1: I felt united. Ah, this is behind them in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. I mean, whatever happens, whatever happens, I
Speaker 1: mean people feel I don't know how to explain it. Really,
Speaker 1: It's not like they feel good about what happened, because
Speaker 1: they don't. I mean, there were people whose guys got
Speaker 1: it there their system. For those people that did not
Speaker 1: have skin in that game, did not have a real
Speaker 1: horse in that fight. They may agree or buddy around
Speaker 1: with one side more than the other. For a lot
Speaker 1: of people, now that's out of the system. We had
Speaker 1: a meeting, the meeting didn't go anywhere. We have all
Speaker 1: that stuff that it was leading up to this now.
Speaker 1: And I hate to say this because this is not
Speaker 1: the what you want in a corporate environment, but sometimes
Speaker 1: there are fights in locker rooms and then it's over.
Speaker 1: They got it out of their system. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking at it that way.
Speaker 1: Because legals involved, this is all now above us. We
Speaker 1: can only concentrate on what we can do. And I
Speaker 1: think last night there were a lot of people that
Speaker 1: showed out on that show last night that stepped up
Speaker 1: and knew that we had to hit a home run
Speaker 1: last night for things that were out of our control.
Speaker 1: The one thing we can control is how we are
Speaker 1: in the ring and how we carry ourselves. And I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who are just again,
Speaker 1: this weight and that drama and that fog. It may
Speaker 1: not be gone for good, but it's dissipated enough saying
Speaker 1: Moura and the chat here, and this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the show. Everyone goes, Oh, Brian spent the whole show
Speaker 1: defending the Young Bucks. But I will I will address
Speaker 1: this here. So and I heard this all day yesterday.
Speaker 1: I heard it all day yesterday. Punk was justified because
Speaker 1: the Young Bucks leaked all sorts of stuff to the press. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's my question, everybody, what did the Young Bucks
Speaker 1: leaked to the press? How would they know? Brian, you're
Speaker 1: a well, no, no, no, well I am asking No.
Speaker 1: Here's the here's the thing. Listen. I am sure that
Speaker 1: see him, Punk believes that the Young Bucks leaked stuff
Speaker 1: to the press. And if that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: for the fight, I'm sure that he believed that. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he's not making that up that he believed that.
Speaker 1: But I've mentioned this a thousand times. I didn't get
Speaker 1: anything anything about CM punk and Cold Cabana or anything
Speaker 1: from the Young Bucks. And you know what, Mike, somebody
Speaker 1: actually went back and do you know who the first
Speaker 1: person was to mention the rumors of Cold caban and
Speaker 1: ceampunk on this program? Who was you on a solo stamp? Yep? Yep?
Speaker 1: What did I say? I have no idea. And I'm
Speaker 1: not even blaming you, I'm I'm pointing out. I'm pointing
Speaker 1: out that like, by the time I even mentioned these rumors, fans,
Speaker 1: every single solitary person in the locker room, three quarters
Speaker 1: of Reddit, everybody had heard about this before I ever
Speaker 1: even mentioned it one time on the show. And you
Speaker 1: know what, I would bet that of that of the
Speaker 1: hun percent of the people that knew by the time
Speaker 1: I mentioned it the new by the time you mentioned it, like,
Speaker 1: and you know what I would have said if i'm
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to track back here, my mind was
Speaker 1: when everything went down, it was talking about hypothetically what
Speaker 1: the locker room, if you were on CM punk side,
Speaker 1: would say, because I was talking about I believe it
Speaker 1: was Friday. It would have been a Friday show where
Speaker 1: I talked about everything, and I think the clip is
Speaker 1: up there on you. I don't actually, I don't know
Speaker 1: any more of the clip is up there on YouTube
Speaker 1: from I believe it was like two weeks ago where
Speaker 1: I just brought up Okay, if you're on punk side
Speaker 1: in theory, Okay, this is what they're saying. This is
Speaker 1: what seems to be what they're saying. It was hypothetical,
Speaker 1: which I said multiple times. But again, I think we've
Speaker 1: seen where this is gone here now to where you
Speaker 1: know it just I'm not sure. I'm not sure when
Speaker 1: it comes to like how you started this show with,
Speaker 1: Like I, I have missed the attacks on you. I
Speaker 1: know you've gotten your your cajones busted here. But obviously
Speaker 1: this is annoying the hell out of you because they
Speaker 1: had a show last night that we could be talking
Speaker 1: about in the grand scheme of things. How can you
Speaker 1: take what happened and apply it to the future here
Speaker 1: the same way with Vince McMahon and that situation with
Speaker 1: what happened and all of the fall out there, and
Speaker 1: okay that you got a bunch of lemons, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do with these lemons? Now? You're gonna make
Speaker 1: lemonade or you just gonna squeeze them in your own
Speaker 1: eyes and stumble around in the dark. So well, I
Speaker 1: will talk about it, but I always save that for
Speaker 1: the final segments. I have a full fourteen minutes recap
Speaker 1: all of it. Uh huh, not a conspiracy here. I
Speaker 1: always wait, Well, you want me to do some news,
Speaker 1: some unrelated news. Well, Rod did well? I mean I
Speaker 1: would like to hear you keep going after your enemies.
Speaker 1: Obviously you've got enough ops out there that you have.
Speaker 1: I have got to get this off your chest that
Speaker 1: you did not hear from the young Bucks. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I did it. I swear to god, everybody knew. Why
Speaker 1: are you fighting so hard against this If you didn't
Speaker 1: just tell these people you didn't, Brian, you cannot try
Speaker 1: to change somebody's mind who doesn't want it to be changed.
Speaker 1: You cannot help out ignorant. You are right, You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: So I can at least tell everybody the truth so
Speaker 1: that the people that aren't uh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: term I want to use, so the people that have
Speaker 1: more than a walnut for a brain, well, at least
Speaker 1: actually know the truth. Cole. I've given both sides of
Speaker 1: this story as accurately as having to qualify that, and
Speaker 1: I think that is I'm irritated more telling me I'm
Speaker 1: only telling one side. I've literally told both sides. I
Speaker 1: told both sides of the dog for crying out loud,
Speaker 1: which for all I know, it might even be the
Speaker 1: same side. Maybe they were throwing that Larry back and
Speaker 1: forth and trying to get him out of the room.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to tell you both sides
Speaker 1: of this situation here, and I'll tell you one side
Speaker 1: for sure. I did not hear any is from the unbox.
Speaker 1: I didn't either. If they named the Alvarez driver, I
Speaker 1: would ask him. Well, they didn't, so I didn't. Are
Speaker 1: you taking strays from Dave? Is that what some of
Speaker 1: this is about. I'm trying to stall, actually recab the
Speaker 1: Dynamite show. I don't think anybody cares about the raw ratings.
Speaker 1: It did well. Everybody at x T six eight four
Speaker 1: did a good job. No one cares about that news well,
Speaker 1: Dan Ventrell. After the last big issue, they came up
Speaker 1: with another company I guess is being inserted into the
Speaker 1: position the former uh vice president or president of the
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders apparently if Mark Davis never said that
Speaker 1: he was. But he went to the NFL on behalf
Speaker 1: of a lot of women there and about the whole
Speaker 1: the rest of the office, about the culture that needed
Speaker 1: to change, and he was fired for that, and the
Speaker 1: NFL wentn't investigated. The Raiders had to make some changes
Speaker 1: that they're doing on their own. So if you're trying
Speaker 1: to like make an impact, he's probably a really good
Speaker 1: guy to bring into the fold. Right now, back in
Speaker 1: a moment Observer Live thinking the show, Brian Elber is here, Russell,
Speaker 1: don't say anything. I'm doing the Dynamite reports. Oh, come on,
Speaker 1: don't you want to get out about the queen. It
Speaker 1: opened up with Tony Khan actually, and it was very
Speaker 1: interesting because the moment they put him on the screen,
Speaker 1: everybody booed, and uh, if people were been wondering why
Speaker 1: they do that, what's going on, Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: obvious why he was booed. He was booed because they
Speaker 1: were in New York and the moment everyone saw his face,
Speaker 1: they thought this is mgf's rival, and so they started booing.
Speaker 1: And then he immediately announces the world title is vacant,
Speaker 1: and everyone cheered. They cheered his decision, and then he
Speaker 1: announced that the trio's titles were vacant. He announced that
Speaker 1: the titles would be the decided tonight. Everybody cheered, and
Speaker 1: then he talked about how the singles title would be
Speaker 1: uh determined it at Arthur Rashley bowed. They wanted it tonight.
Speaker 1: But that's how the whole thing began. And then outcomes
Speaker 1: m JF. Eddie Is gets a heroes welcome, He's cheered,
Speaker 1: he's people go nuts for him and in fact, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some time tonight. So Brian and Vinnie
Speaker 1: show Wrestling Observer dot com. The storyline is that he
Speaker 1: wants to win the a W title and take it
Speaker 1: to w W E because w w E is better.
Speaker 1: So he cuts his promo and then thank god, old
Speaker 1: John Moxy comes out and he ain't taking any of
Speaker 1: this garbage and he tells this bloke, you better get
Speaker 1: out of here right now, or and h m JF
Speaker 1: makes the wise decision gets out of there, and then
Speaker 1: John Moxley cuts this promo. Just this guy, this guy,
Speaker 1: hopefully Dave Camponi up for a real plaque when he
Speaker 1: wins the Wrestler of the year again he cut this
Speaker 1: promo about this company needs to be saved. I want
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm gonna I mean, I can't do it.
Speaker 1: Just go watch it. But announcers are marking out, the
Speaker 1: fans are losing their minds absolutely. Ten star promo by
Speaker 1: John Moxley, and he's coming for that title. Should just
Speaker 1: gave it to him right there. Everybody in the tournament
Speaker 1: should just like lay down anyway. Then we had the
Speaker 1: death triangle against the Best Friends for the a W
Speaker 1: World Trio's title, and the Best Friends were defeated by
Speaker 1: the death triangle. They did all sorts of all sorts
Speaker 1: of nuttiness, triple Canadian destroyer spot at one point, and
Speaker 1: finally Black Arrow on Chuck Taylor for the wind So
Speaker 1: Park now a double champion here in a e W.
Speaker 1: As a result of what happened that press conference, so
Speaker 1: place went absolutely out of their minds for this opener.
Speaker 1: Then again we had a women's match in the first hour,
Speaker 1: Tony Storm faced Penelope Ford. It didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of heat. I would not say in any way it
Speaker 1: was a fantastic match, But I have been very critical
Speaker 1: of Penelope Ford. I thought she looked much better in
Speaker 1: this match against Tony Storm DDT finish and that was it.
Speaker 1: No uh, no tease, who's next, no call out? Nothing,
Speaker 1: two point oh. We'll be facing Action, Bronson and Hook
Speaker 1: coming up here in two weeks. That was a segment,
Speaker 1: a claim that came out with a live mike. Everybody
Speaker 1: was so excited, but Swerve interrupted and Swerve is now
Speaker 1: they've gone by the way. No Keith Lee, I don't
Speaker 1: know where he was, but they've on full heel and
Speaker 1: they're building up to the match. The rematch isn't Arthur
Speaker 1: ash Heel serving our glory versus baby Face Acclaimed and
Speaker 1: the acclaimed hometown Dude. That's a tough act to follow
Speaker 1: that pay per view match, but they're gonna try. And
Speaker 1: I presume it has to be a title change, which
Speaker 1: would be two title changes by the way on one show.
Speaker 1: But I guess we had that here as well. We
Speaker 1: had a Jericho Appreciation Society promo. Jericho basically told Daniel
Speaker 1: Garcia you weren't there for the celebration Sunday, because of course,
Speaker 1: Daniel Garcia said you could. You can win without cheating,
Speaker 1: but Jericho cheated, and so Jericho goes, well, you can
Speaker 1: win that uh, that pure title tonight, but we ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be there. Warload destroyed at Tony Nice then kind
Speaker 1: of promo saying I read on the internet people think that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been I forget the term they use,
Speaker 1: but you know, the momentum installed. He is vowed to
Speaker 1: regain the momentum. And the problem is the only way
Speaker 1: for him to regain the momentum is to build him
Speaker 1: up for something bigger. And unless he's going for the
Speaker 1: world title, which he's not, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you give him momentum back by just having him
Speaker 1: come out into the exact same thing every week. So
Speaker 1: he did the promo, but I don't know what their
Speaker 1: plan is. Bryan Danielson Hangman page dude, great match. I
Speaker 1: went through two commercial breaks. I think it went some
Speaker 1: ridiculous like nineteen minutes, twenty six minutes, something crazy, and uh,
Speaker 1: Danielson's great. Hangman did great. Hangman goes for the buckshot,
Speaker 1: Danielson avoids it, O'Connor roll with a bridge, pins him,
Speaker 1: moves on in the tournament. This awesome professional wrestling. We
Speaker 1: had a great jungle Boy promo, so you know, at
Speaker 1: the show Sunday, Christian came out in a giant brace.
Speaker 1: I didn't even do a match, and I speculated that
Speaker 1: he was injured. And then later I was told that
Speaker 1: he was injured and would be requiring surgery. But none
Speaker 1: of this was ever announced by a W And then
Speaker 1: here on this this pre tape, Jungle Boy just randomly says,
Speaker 1: go get your little surgery. Okay, I must listen to
Speaker 1: my show, but anyway, he's gonna target Luca Source in
Speaker 1: the meantime and take out that big lizard and make
Speaker 1: him go extinct. As stokely Hathaway promo where he celebrated
Speaker 1: winning the poker chip and then some bloke tried to
Speaker 1: wrap him up and so they wrapped him up rampage.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to have my buddy do that one. Dynamite.
Speaker 1: We got Daniel's in Jericho next week, John Moxley, Darby
Speaker 1: Ell and Sammy in a it's a one or the other,
Speaker 1: whoever wins on Dynamite faces John Moxley in the tournament
Speaker 1: and then Grand Slam swerven Or Glory versus the Acclaimed,
Speaker 1: and that led to the main event, which was Dan
Speaker 1: Garcia in his hometown Buffalo Boy against Wheeler Uni for
Speaker 1: the r Age Peer title and uh, as I said
Speaker 1: last night, my only criticism is these fans were not
Speaker 1: into these rules. They just wanted to see these guys
Speaker 1: fight and their guy win. And so by the end
Speaker 1: they're like, Wheeler, you lost the point on a rope break.
Speaker 1: The fans are like, Boa, we don't care about rope breaks.
Speaker 1: But man, they had a great match. Fans were super
Speaker 1: into Daniel Garcia. He kept going for his uh what's
Speaker 1: he called it? The Dragon Tamer goes for it over
Speaker 1: and over again and finally gets in the middle of
Speaker 1: the ring, Wheeler Una taps out. Daniel Garcia has won
Speaker 1: the championship in his hometown. Place goes crazy. They're all
Speaker 1: freaking out. Brian Danielson comes out, he straps the belt
Speaker 1: around Garcia's waist, he shakes his hand, and the final
Speaker 1: shot is Chris Jericho coming out and he's furious. So
Speaker 1: this builds up the Bran Danielson versus Chris Jericho match,
Speaker 1: which is next in the tournament. Rematch from the pay
Speaker 1: per view builds up the Garcia Jericho Brian Danielson storyline,
Speaker 1: where is Daniel Garcia going to end up? And overall
Speaker 1: give it. Here's the thing with this show. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing with this show. Everybody Tony likes a plan. Tony
Speaker 1: likes to book long term. Sunday messed everything up, and
Speaker 1: so he had to come out here on Wednesday and
Speaker 1: he had to do something that he hasn't had to
Speaker 1: do a lot, and he needs experience in, and that
Speaker 1: is find a way to pivot. And I thought that overall,
Speaker 1: top to bottom booking wise, I thought he did an
Speaker 1: excellent job pivoting on this show. It felt like a
Speaker 1: hot show. There was not one see him punk Chant
Speaker 1: on this entire show. There was no Elite, Kenny on
Speaker 1: Mega Young Bucks, c M, punk A Steel, none of them.
Speaker 1: And it felt like a hot program. You have you
Speaker 1: still have tons of big stars, You've got a direction.
Speaker 1: I thought you did an excellent job on this show.
Speaker 1: I agree. Three and a half days ago, you know,
Speaker 1: it was just nothing but carnage and chaos taking place.
Speaker 1: We have three wrestling shows that take place, including a
Speaker 1: pretty controversial finished for some people with Roman Reigns and
Speaker 1: Drew McIntyre, and then by Sunday at two o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning Eastern time, nobody remembered any of it. Because
Speaker 1: of everything that took place, and here's all of his
Speaker 1: plans getting balled up and thrown into the trash can.
Speaker 1: He's got legal issues, he's got personnel issues, all of
Speaker 1: these headaches that have been He thought maybe could be
Speaker 1: behind him after a great pay per view. Nope, that's
Speaker 1: not the case. It just got worse. So pressure can
Speaker 1: create diamonds. And I thought that was a shining show
Speaker 1: last night. I don't like the constant down clock with
Speaker 1: m JF and w W E. I get it. I
Speaker 1: don't like it, but last night it did serve a
Speaker 1: purpose for anybody that was looking for non in ring drama.
Speaker 1: They got it last night. They weren't going to get
Speaker 1: it with CM Punk and then talking about any of
Speaker 1: that stuff that took place. But you got a little
Speaker 1: bit of it with m JF. His promo was outstanding,
Speaker 1: how he came out there, how he controlled the crowd.
Speaker 1: He mocked Punk a little bit, you know, putting himself
Speaker 1: up against the gate and going in there and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. So you got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: taste of it. But I thought it was excellent. And
Speaker 1: then Moxley goes in there. Dusty Rhodes was you know,
Speaker 1: chosen by the people. And I'm not saying that John
Speaker 1: Moxley is Dusty Rhodes. I'm not, but he's got that
Speaker 1: same sort of feel where the people just like them.
Speaker 1: They've always liked him. People look at him as a
Speaker 1: real dude. They can believe him, they can feel his
Speaker 1: struggles and everything that he's gone through. That was the
Speaker 1: whole part of last year with him and then getting
Speaker 1: clean all that stuff. People related to this dude much
Speaker 1: like Eddie Kingston. People related to him, and they have
Speaker 1: chosen him, and he has picked up the banner and
Speaker 1: obviously with the promos that he's been cutting about how
Speaker 1: he feels about that place, he's your man. Maybe hangman
Speaker 1: page was going to be that at one point. Maybe
Speaker 1: he can still be that down the line, maybe dangerous whatever.
Speaker 1: John Moxley is the heart and soul and for right
Speaker 1: now the future of of of a w And he
Speaker 1: was outstanding last night to start with that trio's match.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. People got what they wanted. I thought
Speaker 1: all that was good Penelope for it, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: does look a little bit better and we got the
Speaker 1: women's champion on the program Simple match. I wonder if
Speaker 1: Wardlow may actually start crossing paths with Stokely Hathaway since
Speaker 1: he's acting as such a bully, and you have a
Speaker 1: number of people that in theory Wardlow could get to
Speaker 1: in a feud against w Morrissey or against an Ethan
Speaker 1: Page or something like that. So I wonder about that.
Speaker 1: And I also wonder about with the dynamic that's playing
Speaker 1: out here with Brian Danielson in the Blackpool Combat Club
Speaker 1: and their lust to get Daniel Garcia back to the
Speaker 1: pro wrestling side, that Wheeler Utah, who, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 1: I think pushed Daniel Bryan or vice versa with Danielson
Speaker 1: kind of like rolled out of the ring and he
Speaker 1: was gone. So I wonder, as Garcia starts to come
Speaker 1: over to the other side, if we don't see Jericho
Speaker 1: do something where he starts taking Wheeler, you do away
Speaker 1: from the Blackpool Combat Club and you go ahead and
Speaker 1: you do a double switch that way, so we'll see
Speaker 1: you know. I again, I just thought last night the
Speaker 1: crowd was great. Daniel Garcia. I thought that match was great.
Speaker 1: West Side Gun going out there. Either you know you
Speaker 1: like hip hop or you don't you like result or
Speaker 1: you don't you know for those that do. That was
Speaker 1: a great moment and kind of wild to see him
Speaker 1: on TV. At the same time, we're getting an Action
Speaker 1: Bronson match with with two point oh and with hook
Speaker 1: in Queens. So you know, I'm not saying that things
Speaker 1: are rosy right now, because they certainly are not. But
Speaker 1: when you just look at the in ring products of
Speaker 1: both A E W and w W E, if they
Speaker 1: can get out of their own ways, and obviously a
Speaker 1: W right now needs to do a lot more in
Speaker 1: w W E, but if they can get out of
Speaker 1: their own way, you know, you can't control what people say,
Speaker 1: you can't control what people do in a locker room
Speaker 1: or away from you, but you can control what happens
Speaker 1: in that ring. And I thought they gave everybody what
Speaker 1: they wanted last night. This person here says, uh, it's
Speaker 1: got some of these messages here. The first message person says,
Speaker 1: I hear the music. Isn't it time for a commercial? Yes?
Speaker 1: Back in a moment Observer Live, Back in the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live mixup for bb
Speaker 1: also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Well, we have a lot
Speaker 1: to get into tonight. Brian and Vinny show we'll talk
Speaker 1: all about a W dynamite and n X T two
Speaker 1: point oh, good old Vinny's thoughts and uh, yesterday we
Speaker 1: had a figure for Daily Filthy for Daily with Tom Lawler,
Speaker 1: where for all of you that don't like me, good
Speaker 1: show for you. Tom bragged incessantly about his victory over me.
Speaker 1: So if you want to hear about something that's not
Speaker 1: see him punk in the Young Box and a locker
Speaker 1: room brawl. That would be a good show for you
Speaker 1: to listen to Filthy for Daily with Tom Lawler. Can
Speaker 1: air any grievances tonight with with Granny or on any
Speaker 1: of this stuff? Does she have any thoughts on to you?
Speaker 1: Geek Thursday? Where have you been? Dude? But I have
Speaker 1: no grievances. I have no grievances dayre No, not at all.
Speaker 1: I'm a very calm man. I'm gonna go make some
Speaker 1: tacos kind of my child's orientation for school. I'll say this.
Speaker 1: You know, if it wasn't for all this stuff, you'd
Speaker 1: be in a lot better mood now that you're actually
Speaker 1: eating carbs again. I'm not eating carbs again. Meat, just meat.
Speaker 1: What do you have a meat? I'm a machine? Okay,
Speaker 1: I did you a little bit after that match was over,
Speaker 1: but I'm back on that wagon again. Yes, we are
Speaker 1: out of time. I'm gonna wrap it up for today,
Speaker 1: thank God is right, take tomorrow off, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna you know why, because i am a professional. So
Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. I'll talk to you all
Speaker 1: next time Wrestling Observer Live. You have been listening to
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