WEBVTT - Dynamite - World Titles Vacated 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:15.680 Let's get it all. How's it going everybody? Brian Albarez 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.800 here on or Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.279 day Monday through Friday, New Pacific, the Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.880 six Eastern. Well it's Thursday here on the program. You 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.440 know that means we got a w Dynamite to talk 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:36.239 about here today, and a lot happened on Dynamite. We 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.519 have the World Championship vacated, which was gonna happen one 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.479 way or the other because c HM Punk is injured 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.080 and it's gonna be out a long long time if 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:52.879 he ever returns. Six man titles vacated, which tells me 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.960 there is a feeling that whatever is going on maybe 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:00.240 going on for a while. Investigations, potential legal issues. So 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:04.039 we have new a w World six man tag team 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.119 champions We can tell you about that, and a lot 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.880 of build towards the upcoming Arthur Ash show, which is 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.160 two weeks away. So we can talk about Dynamite here tonight. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.720 A lot to talk about their the injury update on 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:24.319 CM Punk. Jake Hager has resigned Malachi black All the 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.959 Best a Malachi Blackie's been pulled from some indie lineups, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.680 quote due to health issues. We'll tell you about that. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.360 And the Raw show Monday. We've got the ratings in 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.440 and I was I mean, I was not like, you know, 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:45.120 super blown away excited by that Raw show, but um 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.320 did good did a good number and uh like a 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.760 shocking we could number. Actually it was like the show 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.960 was bad. But these Triple eight shows, I mean, they're 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.000 not bad and they're not stupid, but it's not like 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.040 they're super excited eating blow away shows every week. They're 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:06.800 simple shows. We're building to the pay per views, good matches, etcetera, etcetera. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.519 And this was a simple show. I mean, there's some 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.920 good wrestling, but it wasn't like, hey, this is happening, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.040 this big angl blah blah blah. Still did a very 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.639 good number. So people are watching, and uh, who would 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:25.840 have thought acceptable pro wrestling show often good doing better? 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:29.880 Anyway back in a moment, Talk a Story Observer live 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.280 backing the show. Bran Elvera is here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:51.760 Mike simper Viv also Wrestling Observer dot com. You seem amused. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.880 I'm gonna tell y'all the story, everybody, the ballot of 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:00.840 the thug Bucks. You're fun no box? Yeah yeah, they 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.960 they spammed the door with super kicks and knock that 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:07.520 thing off the hinges and then Brandon Cutler spraying it 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.840 with a cold spray. Listen to everybody. I didn't even 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:12.600 really want to talk about this. I thought about it. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.360 I was like, should I really even address this, because 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.240 if I'm let me get to it, let me get 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.840 to it, all right. I was like, should I even 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.800 address this because I may do. All these nerds are 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:27.280 gonna go, oh, he's chosen sides. Listen, some of you've 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.600 already chosen sides. So like, if you've already chosen your side, like, 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.720 just go listen to another podcast, because I know there's 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.920 a podcast out there that will tell you whatever your 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.120 side is. Okay, I'm just trying to tell you the facts, 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:43.960 all right. So yesterday and I don't even know where 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.480 this came from, but I got an idea. The story 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:58.000 suddenly came out. The young Bucks kicked down that door. Okay, Now, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.880 I mean listen, I wasn't I wasn't there for the fight. Okay, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.280 I wasn't there, but you know what, I you know 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.960 where I was. I was like, I don't even know 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.160 how far away I was from the locker room, but 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:13.160 it wasn't that far. I was in the building in 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:19.320 the bowels of the now arena, the catacombs, and I'll 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.359 just start, I'll just you know, this is not the 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.039 Old West. And there were like two wooden swinging doors 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.400 or some plywood door or something like that. Bro, these 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:34.080 were big, thick metal doors. Okay, you ain't going and 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:38.920 kicking that door down now, even if you go, well, 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.479 you know it's two guys, you know that double super 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:44.400 kick and a v trigger, they might have taken that 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:52.960 door down. Listen, where did this story come from? Sunday night? Okay, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:05:00.000 Sunday night, I heard, uh, what happened? Various stories from 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.960 people that were affiliated with both sides, however you want 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:06.240 to term it. People that were sympathetic to punk and 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.560 people that were sympathetic to the Box. Okay, I heard 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.920 the I heard versions from both sides. I heard versions 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:19.840 from both sides. Monday. I heard versions from both sides Tuesday. Okay. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.920 Some of the versions were a little bit different. Okay, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:28.279 but certain things were not disputed by either side. Nobody 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.839 Sunday night disputed. Let see him punk through the first punch. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.440 It was disputed as to why. And what I heard 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:43.440 Sunday and what I heard Monday and what I heard 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:49.520 Tuesday from the punk side was the Bucks entered the 0:05:49.600 --> 0:06:01.120 room aggressively. Okay, But Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, nobody, nobody from 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.599 either side said the young Bucks kicked the door down. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:12.520 Nobody then Wednesday, they've kicked the door down. Listen, there 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.280 ain't much funny about the story, but I laughed at 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.800 the story of the young Bucks kicking down this five 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.800 inch steel door. I mean, bro, come on, if you 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.320 have chosen your side. If you have chosen your side, fine, okay. 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.599 If you are sympathetic to punk, you know there is 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.960 a story from their side that you can go with. 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.239 But now they kicked down They didn't kick down the door. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.560 Nobody said they kicked down the door. Nobody from punk 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.279 side said they kicked down the door. Nobody from obviously 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.200 the Buck side, said that they kicked down the door. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.360 Nobody kicked down the door. Now here's another one that 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.520 people gonna go, Oh, Brian's defending the Bucks. I'm not 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.160 defending the Bucks. I'm just trying to tell you what 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:02.840 happened from both sides. Okay. The other one I heard was, well, 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.279 you know, they didn't kick down the door, but they 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:08.200 entered the room and it was three on one, and thus, 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.560 you know, Punk had to knew what he did. Okay, Listen, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:13.880 I don't know how they entered the room, except that 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.239 they didn't kick down the door, but it wasn't three 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:24.560 on one. If you're a defender of Punk and you 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.640 want to say that they aggressively entered and he felt 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.760 he had to defend himself, that's fine. Okay, maybe that's 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.520 what happened. We're all gonna find out when they when 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.920 they interview everybody and they do their But what is 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:38.240 factually incorrect is that it was ever three on one. 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.240 What did a steel just materialize out of thin air 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.160 once it hit the fan. There were many people in 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.559 the room when the Young Bucks came in. I can't 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.840 give you the exact number, but it was close to 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.240 if not a half dozen. Punk was not in there 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:01.440 all by himself, There were multiple people in the room. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:05.680 The Young Bucks didn't come into the room alone. They 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:09.840 came in with the head of legal She didn't help 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:13.800 kick the door down. Okay. I understand people have decided 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:17.480 who's at fault and everything like that. They're investigating this 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.480 and we will find out who they believe in the 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:25.200 end was at fault, okay, but it does not help 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.840 matters to make up stories about the young bucks kicking 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:33.960 the door down, punk being one on three as he's 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.800 in the room alone, he wasn't. Okay, there were people 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.360 in the room, a number of them. More people came in, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:47.920 and you know it was from multiple sources. It was 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.120 three to five seconds before. There were tons of people 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.000 in that room. So this isn't No one was there, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.560 no one witnessed it. You're giving one side or the other. 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.000 I mean, I guess I'm giving one side by telling 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.439 you that whoever told the story about the door being 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.680 kicked down, that did not happen. And that's from all sides, okay, 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:10.439 And it was not a three on one whatever. I mean, dude, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.920 can we just waiting until this thing is wrapped up 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:16.400 and we've got like anyway? No, of course they can't. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:20.920 And also, do you have any more post press conference 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.600 fan fick that you'd like to let us know about, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.120 because I didn't know that the young bucks were going 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:32.160 and stomping through doors, and there's all this other stuff 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.240 that's uh that's come out. Have you read read it 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:37.640 for any other types of what's the most entertaining story, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.400 most ridiculous story you've seen from this? The young bucks 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.280 kicking down a solid steel door? Are you sure to 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.679 get inside with the head illegal behind them? That is 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.640 the funniest thing I heard in all of this. I 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.880 don't know. People wanted saying that they were grappling with 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.199 Larry and all that other stuff too. Now it seems 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:59.040 that they were grappling with Well, everybody has had a 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.880 field day with so I mean, I don't I don't know, 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.800 I don't know. Do you did? You just, you know, 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.520 justify it by talking about on the radio something that's 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.520 so completely ridiculous and so easy to shoot down and 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:16.400 has been shot. Here you go and give credence. I 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.560 want to say this because I'm I'm a fair man. Listen, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.920 there are a lot of things about the brawl where 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.719 there are in fact different stories. Okay, I'll give you 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.640 an example. Larry the dog was in the room. Okay. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:34.120 There there there are stories out that Kenny Omega was 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.000 attempting to rescue Larry the Dog. Okay, but I have 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.360 also heard that in fact, it was Mega who rescued 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:46.000 the dog. Okay, it was it was a melee. It 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.600 could have been one, it could have been the other, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.560 it could have been both. But bro, I don't know. Okay, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.760 that is something that is in dispute, and maybe we'll know, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.840 maybe we won't. I don't know what and and honestly, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.080 that doesn't have anything to do with what happened. I mean, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.000 somebody rescued the dog, but it is in dispute who 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.000 actually rescued the dog. Different people who were there had 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.960 different people rescuing the dog, Okay, but nobody had the 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.040 door being kicked down. That's my point. There are certain 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.160 things here that are in dispute, and there are other 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.800 things that aren't in dispute. Yet somehow these stories are 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.360 out there. So no, I don't know who saved Larry 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.440 the Dog. I say, I'm looking at the chat right now. 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.199 The Wrestling News cannot confirm that Larry the Dog was suspended, 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.360 so we're gonna have to wait until later on. Hopefully 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.240 Dave's got an update on well. I can tell you 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.000 that Larry the Dog was not suspended because Larry the 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.719 Dog was not under contract. But he's not going to 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.440 be allowed. You know, they're not gonna pay. It would 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:41.560 be like his gear. Even if he brings his gear, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.439 they're not gonna let him in the building anymore. Would 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:45.680 he have been able to get out of the stump 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.280 puller easier than you, You wouldn't have gotten the stump 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.199 puller on the dog, I can tell you that much. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.360 So here's the deal everyone, as we get back from 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:01.120 the break, they did strip CM Punk of the championship. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.080 They did strip the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega of 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:08.680 the trios titles. We already have new trios champions and 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.360 we're in the middle of a tournament that will wrap 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:16.800 up at Arthur Ash And at that point, um we'll 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.880 find out with the new champions where they go and 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.559 I'll talk about more details after the break Observer Live. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.880 Back in the show. Bran Elbert is here Wrestling Observer Live. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:50.679 Mike Sumburviv also Wrestling Observe dot Com. So Young Bucks, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.280 Kenny Omega and See Him Punk have all been stripped 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.320 of their titles. And of course I mentioned stuff last 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.600 night and I picked I didn't pick sides pick sides. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.800 I said, I understand Punk being stripped, but I don't 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.840 understand Kenny Omega and the Bucks being stripped necessarily. And 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:11.600 it's not because I picked sides. It's because Sam Punk 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:16.000 has a torn triceps surgery. He's not gonna be out 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.080 for I don't know what he's gonna come back. I mean, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.800 if nothing had happened, if nothing had happened Sunday at 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:27.040 the presser and afterwards, then apparently we have no audio 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.600 on Twitch. So whatever button we gotta push for that one. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.120 We'll be back soon, everybody. I got it back up 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:44.600 on Twitch. Good. Are we good? Now? No sound? No? Alright? Thursday, y'all? 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.160 Well anyway, so my my should I start over again? 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.880 Poor audio listeners are like screw these video nerds? Okay, listen. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.360 I said yesterday that I understood Punk being stripped, but 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.240 I didn't understand the young Bucks Kenny being stripped. So 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.839 of course everyone freaked out. But this is the point. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.720 See him Punk, if nothing had happened, if nothing had happened, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:10.480 if he won the title from Moxley, had a great 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.480 press conference, there was no fight, nothing. Punk was still 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.160 being stripped on Wednesday because he tore his triceps in 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.440 the match, and he's out eight months a year. I 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.640 don't even know how long. So I mean it makes 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.720 sense to strip him. Now, Young Bucks and Kenny Omega, 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.480 I mean they might be back next week, they might 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.320 be back the week after. So by stripping the Young 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.440 Bucks and Kenny as well, that tells me that they 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.440 have no timeline as to when this investigation is going 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.520 to be wrapped up. And I know everybody just oh, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:49.000 there should be done in a few days, just interview everybody. Well, uh, 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:52.119 it doesn't work like that. You don't know how long corporation. 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.800 This is not, I mean the ears the thing. It's 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.360 not just well who was in the wrong? Okay, who who? Who? 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:04.320 This is probably gonna be litigated, and you don't want 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:08.640 to screw this up, so uh, we may not see 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.240 this investigation wrapped up for a while. And if it's 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:13.840 not wrapped up for a while, you've got to strip 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.880 the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega as well. Now, you 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.680 could have done the interim thing again because they have 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.280 set the precedent that you know, if somebody can't defend 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.080 the titles for one reason or the other, you create 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:27.560 an interim championship. But apparently they've just decided that nope, 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:33.000 they're all being stripped, and uh, we have new trios champions. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.880 The Death Triangle beat the Best Friends, so they won 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.880 the Trios titles, which means that Pok is now a 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.960 double champion. He's got the All Atlantic title as well, 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.520 and they are doing a tournament to determine who will 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.280 be the new champion and that person will be crowned 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:54.960 at Arthur Ash. So you know, there's solved. Situation has 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.040 been a disaster, but if it ends up with a 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.840 unified lock a room and you know, quite frankly, after 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.000 everything that happened with Punk and the Moxley storyline and 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.760 now this tournament, I mean, we have we may have 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.560 a seven week stretch of one plus million viewers as 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.720 a result of all of this, because we're going on 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.800 three weeks now. It probably did a million last night, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.840 but I don't know. And then you've got two more 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.040 weeks in Arthur Ash when they're crowning a champion on 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:26.400 free TV. I mean, you know, viewership wise, this was 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.920 an excellent thing that happened to them. And uh, I 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.560 did hear that they did a raw Ross speech last 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:36.240 night before the show and The feeling that I got 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:40.960 from people was that people felt good last night. Ah, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:45.160 I felt united. Ah, this is behind them in a 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.680 lot of ways. I mean, whatever happens, whatever happens, I 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:55.240 mean people feel I don't know how to explain it. Really, 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.440 It's not like they feel good about what happened, because 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.520 they don't. I mean, there were people whose guys got 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.240 it there their system. For those people that did not 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:06.240 have skin in that game, did not have a real 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:10.320 horse in that fight. They may agree or buddy around 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.400 with one side more than the other. For a lot 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.000 of people, now that's out of the system. We had 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.160 a meeting, the meeting didn't go anywhere. We have all 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.919 that stuff that it was leading up to this now. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.840 And I hate to say this because this is not 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.879 the what you want in a corporate environment, but sometimes 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:28.800 there are fights in locker rooms and then it's over. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:30.960 They got it out of their system. And I think 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.680 a lot of people are looking at it that way. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:37.040 Because legals involved, this is all now above us. We 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.359 can only concentrate on what we can do. And I 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.679 think last night there were a lot of people that 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.440 showed out on that show last night that stepped up 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.040 and knew that we had to hit a home run 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.120 last night for things that were out of our control. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.760 The one thing we can control is how we are 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.359 in the ring and how we carry ourselves. And I 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.679 think there's a lot of people who are just again, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.600 this weight and that drama and that fog. It may 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:05.480 not be gone for good, but it's dissipated enough saying 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.159 Moura and the chat here, and this is gonna be 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.920 the show. Everyone goes, Oh, Brian spent the whole show 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:14.399 defending the Young Bucks. But I will I will address 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.760 this here. So and I heard this all day yesterday. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.000 I heard it all day yesterday. Punk was justified because 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:25.640 the Young Bucks leaked all sorts of stuff to the press. Okay, 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.160 so here's my question, everybody, what did the Young Bucks 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:33.200 leaked to the press? How would they know? Brian, you're 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:37.800 a well, no, no, no, well I am asking No. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.800 Here's the here's the thing. Listen. I am sure that 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.760 see him, Punk believes that the Young Bucks leaked stuff 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.520 to the press. And if that's one of the reasons 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.240 for the fight, I'm sure that he believed that. I'm 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.119 sure he's not making that up that he believed that. 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:58.920 But I've mentioned this a thousand times. I didn't get 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:04.120 anything anything about CM punk and Cold Cabana or anything 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.959 from the Young Bucks. And you know what, Mike, somebody 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.320 actually went back and do you know who the first 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.960 person was to mention the rumors of Cold caban and 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:21.480 ceampunk on this program? Who was you on a solo stamp? Yep? Yep? 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.679 What did I say? I have no idea. And I'm 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.080 not even blaming you, I'm I'm pointing out. I'm pointing 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:35.160 out that like, by the time I even mentioned these rumors, fans, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:40.600 every single solitary person in the locker room, three quarters 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:46.440 of Reddit, everybody had heard about this before I ever 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.359 even mentioned it one time on the show. And you 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:50.920 know what, I would bet that of that of the 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:52.640 hun percent of the people that knew by the time 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:57.679 I mentioned it the new by the time you mentioned it, like, 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:00.840 and you know what I would have said if i'm 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.879 if I'm trying to track back here, my mind was 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.480 when everything went down, it was talking about hypothetically what 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.119 the locker room, if you were on CM punk side, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.239 would say, because I was talking about I believe it 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.040 was Friday. It would have been a Friday show where 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.359 I talked about everything, and I think the clip is 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.040 up there on you. I don't actually, I don't know 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:22.880 any more of the clip is up there on YouTube 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.720 from I believe it was like two weeks ago where 0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.360 I just brought up Okay, if you're on punk side 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:34.240 in theory, Okay, this is what they're saying. This is 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.600 what seems to be what they're saying. It was hypothetical, 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:43.280 which I said multiple times. But again, I think we've 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:47.040 seen where this is gone here now to where you 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:53.400 know it just I'm not sure. I'm not sure when 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:56.280 it comes to like how you started this show with, 0:20:56.520 --> 0:21:00.320 Like I, I have missed the attacks on you. I 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.440 know you've gotten your your cajones busted here. But obviously 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.640 this is annoying the hell out of you because they 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.040 had a show last night that we could be talking 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.280 about in the grand scheme of things. How can you 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.920 take what happened and apply it to the future here 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:18.280 the same way with Vince McMahon and that situation with 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:20.320 what happened and all of the fall out there, and 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:22.879 okay that you got a bunch of lemons, what are 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:24.520 you gonna do with these lemons? Now? You're gonna make 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.480 lemonade or you just gonna squeeze them in your own 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.879 eyes and stumble around in the dark. So well, I 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:31.480 will talk about it, but I always save that for 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.320 the final segments. I have a full fourteen minutes recap 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:40.159 all of it. Uh huh, not a conspiracy here. I 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.240 always wait, Well, you want me to do some news, 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:47.520 some unrelated news. Well, Rod did well? I mean I 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:49.760 would like to hear you keep going after your enemies. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.040 Obviously you've got enough ops out there that you have. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:54.080 I have got to get this off your chest that 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.760 you did not hear from the young Bucks. I didn't. 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:01.920 I did it. I swear to god, everybody knew. Why 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:05.040 are you fighting so hard against this If you didn't 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.320 just tell these people you didn't, Brian, you cannot try 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.240 to change somebody's mind who doesn't want it to be changed. 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.399 You cannot help out ignorant. You are right, You're absolutely right. 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.719 So I can at least tell everybody the truth so 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.280 that the people that aren't uh, I don't know what 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.760 term I want to use, so the people that have 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.200 more than a walnut for a brain, well, at least 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:30.639 actually know the truth. Cole. I've given both sides of 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:35.600 this story as accurately as having to qualify that, and 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.960 I think that is I'm irritated more telling me I'm 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.280 only telling one side. I've literally told both sides. I 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.320 told both sides of the dog for crying out loud, 0:22:43.960 --> 0:22:45.280 which for all I know, it might even be the 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:48.359 same side. Maybe they were throwing that Larry back and 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.560 forth and trying to get him out of the room. 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.439 I don't know. I'm trying to tell you both sides 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.200 of this situation here, and I'll tell you one side 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.360 for sure. I did not hear any is from the unbox. 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.639 I didn't either. If they named the Alvarez driver, I 0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.920 would ask him. Well, they didn't, so I didn't. Are 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.320 you taking strays from Dave? Is that what some of 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:21.080 this is about. I'm trying to stall, actually recab the 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.000 Dynamite show. I don't think anybody cares about the raw ratings. 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:26.560 It did well. Everybody at x T six eight four 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:30.280 did a good job. No one cares about that news well, 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:33.800 Dan Ventrell. After the last big issue, they came up 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:36.800 with another company I guess is being inserted into the 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:40.680 position the former uh vice president or president of the 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:44.960 Las Vegas Raiders apparently if Mark Davis never said that 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.719 he was. But he went to the NFL on behalf 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.399 of a lot of women there and about the whole 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.600 the rest of the office, about the culture that needed 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.639 to change, and he was fired for that, and the 0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.240 NFL wentn't investigated. The Raiders had to make some changes 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.240 that they're doing on their own. So if you're trying 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.080 to like make an impact, he's probably a really good 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:05.879 guy to bring into the fold. Right now, back in 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:19.000 a moment Observer Live thinking the show, Brian Elber is here, Russell, 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.159 don't say anything. I'm doing the Dynamite reports. Oh, come on, 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:24.720 don't you want to get out about the queen. It 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.640 opened up with Tony Khan actually, and it was very 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:30.400 interesting because the moment they put him on the screen, 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.680