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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus

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Speaker 1: Podcast presented by bet MGM. This is the group of

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Speaker 1: five Deep Dive. I'm Mike Caliber is joined by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mike Ianello. This is Part two and our

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Speaker 1: G five NFL Draft coverage. So if you missed our

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Speaker 1: first episode where we covered all the first and second

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Speaker 1: round prospects in the upcoming drafts, please go back listen

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Speaker 1: to that one comment, rate review, subscribe. Everything you do

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Speaker 1: on YouTube as well as your podcast feed really helps

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Speaker 1: us out. But this is the episode where we're hitting

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Speaker 1: on the sleepers, the diamonds, and the rough the true

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Speaker 1: difference makers between good GMing and elite GMing. If you

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Speaker 1: want to be somebody who leads your franchise to an

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Speaker 1: NFL championship getting that Super Bowl trophy, you need to

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Speaker 1: crush rounds three all the way through the undrafted free

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Speaker 1: agent portion of the post draft process. So we're going

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Speaker 1: to get into some of those guys. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: their names very early in round three, all the way

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Speaker 1: down to some of those camp in bites that could

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Speaker 1: that we're bullish on. So we're gonna start with a

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Speaker 1: player that I kicked out of the last episode, Michael

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Speaker 1: Pratt from Tulane. I'm not a believer in him being

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Speaker 1: a second r NFL draft pick, but maybe you are.

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Speaker 1: I know what, what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Pratt. To me, I have Pratt QB

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Speaker 2: seven in this draft. I think Williams May you know,

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Speaker 2: I have that as tier one. But if you want

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Speaker 2: Then I think there's a massive gap, and then you

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Speaker 2: get into McCarthy, Knicks, Pennix in whatever order you want,

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Speaker 2: and then I have Pratt right there after that. I

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Speaker 2: have him at the top of tier three. If you're

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Speaker 2: going to try to tell me Spencer Ratler is ahead

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Speaker 2: of Michael Pratt, you're insane. So to me, I have

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Speaker 2: Pratt right there. And I think when you look at

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Speaker 2: you don't have Patrick Mahomes, you're screwed. But even if

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Speaker 2: you want to say, if you don't have a Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: unless you go Brock Purty. To me, when you look

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Speaker 2: at you know that that second tier obviously you know Chicago, Washington,

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Speaker 2: round one, because I don't think you're winning any more

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Speaker 2: games with bow knicks than you would with Michael Pratt.

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Speaker 2: And you look at like, let's take Vegas for example.

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Speaker 2: You can't tell me Michael Pratt's worse than Aidan O'Connell

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Speaker 2: or Gardner Minshew. Obviously Mitchew's played in the league for longer.

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Speaker 2: But when you look at, you know, look at the

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Speaker 2: who else would be in there? Are you gonna take both?

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Speaker 2: Is your team better because you have bone knicks or

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Speaker 2: or you take Quell Mitchell, who we talked about then

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Speaker 2: you take Pratt, like, dude, give me Mitchell in the

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Speaker 2: first and man Pratt in the third. You're gonna win

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Speaker 2: just many games, if not more than if you take

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Speaker 2: fine NFL starters? Sure, they're not beating Patrick Mahomes on Sunday. Ever,

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Speaker 2: give me Pratt in round three or four and get

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Speaker 2: better guys in the first round. When you look at Pratt,

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Speaker 2: four year starter at Tulane, finished screer with ninety touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: the competition caveat and Pratt's four years actually it was

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Speaker 2: only over like a three year stretch. But he played

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Speaker 2: those teams, two outright wins with eight touchdowns in two interceptions.

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Speaker 2: The four teams he played were number ten Oklahoma, Number

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Speaker 2: When you watch him, he is just calm pull in

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Speaker 2: like an NFL type passer. He's a leader. His teammates

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Speaker 2: he's not Josh Allen, but he can't move. He's tough

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Speaker 2: as nails. You said it last week that you know.

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Speaker 2: I assume these nflgms aren't listen to me. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: take Michael Pannix and Bonnicks and they're gonna suck. And

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Speaker 2: I assume he's a backup. He's the guy where I think,

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Speaker 2: as soon as he enters the game, like he's not

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Speaker 2: I think if he's a backup, he's won that. I

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Speaker 2: in this league. So, like I said, I think he

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Speaker 2: win more games with Michael Pratt in round three or

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Speaker 1: All right, I have lots of things to say about this.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with this a little trivia time. He talked

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Speaker 1: passes did he complete in that game?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he ran for like eighty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's great. I mean if this was like nineteen

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Speaker 1: talk about what he did passing the football games.

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Speaker 2: He threw two touchdowns and I'm not looking up. He

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Speaker 2: threw two touchdowns and no picks. I know he was

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Speaker 2: like eight for seventeen or something like that, right.

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Speaker 1: Eight for seventeen is correct. Eight completions. I sort of got.

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Speaker 2: I don't have anything in front of me, like like,

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Speaker 2: I don't have his numbers.

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Speaker 1: Propty ding ding Ding number two, and this one's a

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Speaker 2: How many times how many touchdowns did he hand off Tadre.

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Speaker 1: Spears exactly Taj Spears when he wasn't there. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about how he played last year, particularly against SMU, with

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to win back to back AAC titles. He

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Speaker 1: to PFF, completes just fifty eight percent of his passes touchdown, interception.

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Speaker 1: this kid is fine. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. You don't take backup quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 1: get him in the fifth, I'm excited. I think he

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Speaker 1: I think his arm is average, and there's very few quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I think if you put Pratt in there. He could

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Speaker 1: million dollars in his career. I mean, fingers crossed, I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for this kid. Go to the Chase Daniel route.

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Speaker 1: Just make like forty million dollars a backup quarterback. Like yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I think the reality is the best two lane

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Speaker 1: Pratt was someone who facilitated that. He gets credit for that.

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Speaker 1: And the benefit is by doing all these things, he

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Speaker 1: hanging around for all that long. It should be the UFL, XFL,

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Speaker 1: career there Tommy Maddock style. But when it comes to Pratt,

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Speaker 2: So I agree with you in that sense where I

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Speaker 2: you agree with me that you're gonna win just as

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Speaker 2: then on day three as you do if you take

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Speaker 1: One, I think in a perfect scenario where Penex gets

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Speaker 1: not have an NFL future whatsoever. Only in the exact

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Speaker 2: All right. There, here's another question, because I think we

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Speaker 2: can all agree, whether we agree or not, those that's

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Speaker 2: going to be the top six agreed. Yes, do you

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Speaker 2: agree with me Pratt's QB seven, Yes, I do. Like

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Speaker 2: you take him over Raller and yeah, I mean Rattler

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Rattler. You can talk about the stuff between

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Speaker 1: the years and is you know, leadership ability or lack thereof,

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Speaker 1: concerns me the most about him, he took too many sacks.

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Speaker 2: For he's just he's every time i'd hear him talk,

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Speaker 2: he just is such a dick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's something to be said that a lot

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Speaker 2: Gonna say, quick, Friday Night ends, those six quarterbacks are

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think I think that's a good

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Speaker 2: If you had to pick one kind of who would

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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance in the right system. Austin

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Speaker 2: See if I take a backup, I'm taking Bradley. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this might sound like an old man take, but hey,

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Speaker 2: That's red flag city to me. I'm taking Bradley's strictly

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Speaker 2: He's been around the game since he was born. Really

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he should be a coach. Why don't

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Speaker 2: He's my QB three practice squad guy, hold the clipboard,

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Speaker 2: me him all right, running back, and you have to

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Speaker 1: Miss This one's super easy to me. It's rashein a

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Speaker 1: The six foot two hundred eleven pounder from Ohio Vertical

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Speaker 1: fully healthy with a better offensive line. In twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: why is this guy playing at Marshall. His numbers were

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Speaker 1: down back, which I think is what he's going to

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Speaker 1: I think he's the complete package. It's rare at the

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Speaker 2: He led the country with plays of fifty plus yards.

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Speaker 1: He's someone who could win you your fantasy league by showing

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Speaker 2: The NFL. Yeah, I love Ali. You know the Knox

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Speaker 2: Darryl Henderson, Tony Pollard, Antonio Gibson, Kenneth Gainwell. Memphis has

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Speaker 2: he fits today's NFL perfectly. Last year, his first year

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Speaker 2: I think he's the perfect third down but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: I love Blake Watson, and I think it's nice too.

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Speaker 1: Old Dominion. You want to see somebody move from smaller

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Speaker 1: always spots for Kenny Gainwell's in the NFL with so

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Speaker 1: Blake Watson a lot there, All.

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Speaker 2: Right, real quick, judge, you I mentioned comin even all

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Speaker 1: Too small, too small, I think, right. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: Muscle, dude. He only he was tired with Oli Gordon

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Speaker 2: And then if you do want a seventh round, pick

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Speaker 2: do you places quarterback, wide receiver, running back, kick returner

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Speaker 2: four straight years, he's basically drafting four, you know, back

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's the line from the Friday Night Light movie.

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Speaker 1: You know, he'll fill up the water bottle, will walk

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Speaker 2: Wide receiver, I will say, compared to last year, super thin.

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Speaker 2: You know, last year we talked about Nakua, We talked

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Speaker 2: that could potentially get drafted. Ja Kwon Jackson from Chulane,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's always a potential for a sneaky under

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Speaker 1: but we're not going to talk about that, so let's

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Speaker 1: learning curve. He got better and better moving from quarterback

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Speaker 1: two years. He knows how to be a pro clearly

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Speaker 1: from his family history, he clearly put in the work

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Speaker 1: to get better and did it at a place where

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Speaker 1: there wasn't much limelight. I think he started his career

432
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Speaker 1: at what Nebraska as a quarterback. He had an opportunity

433
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Speaker 1: to make stay at a bigger name program. He wanted

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Speaker 1: to play and he wanted to give it an honest

435
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Speaker 1: go at wide receiver. He has the physicality, he has

436
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Speaker 1: the numbers. I think this could be a real steal

437
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Speaker 1: for somebody. And I know sometimes it smacks a bit

438
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Speaker 1: of nepotism, or it's just the name. No one's comparing

439
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Speaker 1: him to Christian. No one thinks he's gonna come in

440
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Speaker 1: and be an all pro guy. But I think in

441
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Speaker 1: the current NFL, where you need three good receivers, there's

442
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Speaker 1: no reason why he can't work his way into that

443
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Speaker 1: third wide receiver slot for a lot of teams in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So he's my pick of this group. Although

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Speaker 1: Jackson's speed is so enticing, Like if we just list

446
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Speaker 1: off some of his splits in his forty yard dash,

447
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 1: time you say that three times, you know the ghost

448
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Al Davis is going to come out and listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast. But like he's somebody that a team will

450
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Speaker 1: fall in love with the ability to stretch the field

451
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Speaker 1: in four or five wide receiver sets, that's still valuable

452
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Speaker 1: to take the top off of the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Jackson as fast as he really didn't

454
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Speaker 2: put off like crazy numbers that too lane and he

455
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Speaker 2: had Pratt. Yeah, to me, mcaver is a no brainer.

456
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Speaker 2: And I think the fact that you know, when you

457
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Speaker 2: get to these round five through seven and the guy's

458
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Speaker 2: fighting and klawn and make the team the guy that

459
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Speaker 2: everyone's calling, you know, the NEPO baby, give me that

460
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 2: chip on each other you mentioned it. You saw him

461
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Speaker 2: have to drop down from Nebraska. He had his switch

462
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Speaker 2: positions and all he did was lead the American and

463
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Speaker 2: touchdown catches. You know, freaky athletic. He he's second in

464
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Speaker 2: the country and contested catches last season.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's all the NFL is like when you

466
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Speaker 1: think about Sundays, like, unless you're a Tyreek kill, unless

467
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Speaker 1: you're a super elite route runner or have crazy speed,

468
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Speaker 1: you don't get wide open looks. You got to go

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Speaker 1: take the ball away from something.

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Speaker 2: Too like he's not the like small shifty Jillian Edelman

471
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Speaker 2: white receiver like search on Twitter Luke McCaffrey one handed catch.

472
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Speaker 2: This dude was one handed moss and dudes in the

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Speaker 2: end zone last year. Like, I think he absolutely is

474
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Speaker 2: a home run at in this kind of range for

475
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Speaker 2: a guy that you just know is gonna work his

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Speaker 2: bag off to like make the team and get you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's got a massive chip on his shoulder

478
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Speaker 2: being the less talented brother. So yeah, give me Luke

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Speaker 2: McAfrey all day. All right. Tight end Dalen Hooker Carrado state,

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Speaker 2: any thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I like the guy. I think it's funny that when

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Speaker 1: people talk about the position in general, I saw like

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Speaker 1: two or three comments where, oh, he doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: speed to stretch the field like, and then they just

485
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Speaker 1: start listing off some of the greatest tight ends in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. It's like, no one thinks he's gonna be Gronk,

487
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Speaker 1: No one thinks he's gonna be you know, Travis Kelce.

488
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Speaker 1: Like that's fine. You can be a really good number two,

489
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Speaker 1: borderline number one receiver because he's physical the point of attack,

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Speaker 1: he can block, and when he gets the ball, he's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good runner once he gets up to full speed.

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Speaker 1: You saw him really do some damage in the second level.

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Speaker 1: I granted it was the Mound West, but he had

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Speaker 1: a really nice season and as long as he stays healthy,

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Speaker 1: and that's the big issue on him. He had, you know,

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Speaker 1: a lost season at BYU due to injury. He's also

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Speaker 1: older because he won on his Mormon mission. I think

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Speaker 1: these are realistic things. I think this moves him down

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Speaker 1: teams draft boards. But when I watch him play, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's an NFL tight end for sure. I think he's

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Speaker 1: you know, if you told me in two years trying

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Speaker 1: to set my lineup for my fantasy, he's in that, like,

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Speaker 1: just outside the top ten of tight ends. That makes

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Speaker 1: sense to me, given his ball skills and his ability

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Speaker 1: for run, you know, running after the catch. So I

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Speaker 1: like the guy a lot. I'm happy to see him succeed.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him a ton in the preseason series

508
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Speaker 1: talking about Colorado State being a sleeper in the Mound West.

509
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Speaker 1: He was a reason why he lived up to the hype.

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Speaker 1: Their quarterback situation again, we just talked about McCaffrey catching

511
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Speaker 1: passes from different quarterbacks. Issues on at that position group.

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Speaker 1: He was still able to produce even though they were

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Speaker 1: playing musical chairs. They had a freshman in there. They had,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy who didn't have experience. He was

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Speaker 1: a safety blanket. I think he got close to what

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Speaker 1: seven hundred yards of the rams last year. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm in on Hooker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's only weird about Hooker. I agree.

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Speaker 2: He had a great year, you know, thir and third

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Speaker 2: among all tight ends and forced miss tackles last year.

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Speaker 2: And it's weird he has that weird com He really

522
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Speaker 2: didn't do anything at Uyu, so he has that weird

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Speaker 2: combo of like one season of real breakout production at

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Speaker 2: Colorado State. But you can't even say like he's super

525
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Speaker 2: rock because, like you said, he's twenty four years old,

526
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Speaker 2: because he had like two years of like religious mission trips.

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Speaker 2: So it's like he's like rab but like old. So

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a weird thing.

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Speaker 2: Any offensive lineman you want to talk about, I.

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Speaker 1: Like Frank Crumb, I like any Wyoming tough. You think

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Speaker 1: about all their teams just in the d until you

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Speaker 1: like about blocking, but just Wyoming go for oun data. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also thinks there's a certain element of like culture

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Speaker 1: where they talk about some of the guys at the

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Speaker 1: very top, particularly at the tackle position. Sometimes these guys

543
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Speaker 1: are like dancing bears. They have such great athleticism and

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Speaker 1: they're more in the past protection scheme. I sometimes want

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Speaker 1: to add into the mix, whether it's just you're too deep.

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Speaker 1: A guy who's a road grader, who is a bully

547
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Speaker 1: who comes in maybe a half second after the whistle

548
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Speaker 1: blows and knocks over a defensive back off the pile,

549
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Speaker 1: like those are Wyoming guys. So that's just my thought

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Speaker 1: on it. We don't have to get into it. We don't,

551
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Speaker 1: you know, claim to be the cole Kublicks of the

552
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Speaker 1: world breaking down all the different elements and the schemes

553
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Speaker 1: and all those kind of things. But when it comes

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Speaker 1: to culture fits, I wouldn't mind having a wyoming offensive

555
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Speaker 1: linement in my locker room.

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Speaker 2: Agreed, all right. Switching over to defense, and you look

557
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Speaker 2: at the edge rushers. If you listen to our part

558
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Speaker 2: one podcast everything we said about Marshall Neeland, Mohammed Kamara

559
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Speaker 2: is the exact opposite. This dude is all production. Thirteen sacks,

560
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: seventeen tackles for loss. Last year Mountain West Defensive Player

561
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Speaker 2: of the Year. This dude's a lunatic. When you watch

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Speaker 2: him play, He's one of those guys who are like,

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Speaker 2: when you watch, you're like, that dude is not like

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Speaker 2: you just you can you notice him on defense, crazy energy,

565
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: He launches off the line of scrimmage as soon as

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Speaker 2: he is relentless. Everything you read about him from his teammates,

567
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: his coach is just no nonsense player, super intense, work

568
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 2: ethic like but compared to Nieland he's undersized. You know,

569
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: he's fast, but he's small. He's not as long, but

570
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Speaker 2: he plays with crazy intensity. And I'm telling you, give

571
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Speaker 2: me this dude on my team every day of the week.

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Speaker 2: I don't care how big he is, I don't care

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Speaker 2: how long he is. Give me the dude that I

574
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Speaker 2: know when the ball snapped he's going to try to

575
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: kill the other team's quarterback or die trying. I love

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Speaker 2: Mohammed Kamara.

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Speaker 1: I am with you. I couldn't be more in lockstep

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Speaker 1: on this one. And what's interesting, having watched a ton

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Speaker 1: of Colorado State football, really the last two years, he

580
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Speaker 1: was the best defender they had, so you know that

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Speaker 1: every single team was game planning against him, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, I'm still going to be the defensive

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Speaker 1: player of the year in this conference. He finished second

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Speaker 1: in career at Colorado State with thirty and a half

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Speaker 1: thirteen career tackles for loss with almost forty six. To me,

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Speaker 1: he's very similar to Shaq Barrett, another Colorado State product

587
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: who became an NFL Pro bowler. And like Barrett, he

588
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Speaker 1: moved from linebacker to edge and once he did that,

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Speaker 1: he still remains undersized, but he flourished in that role.

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Speaker 1: And I think he really made himself rich by his measurables.

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Speaker 1: His ten yards split one point five eight, elite forty

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Speaker 1: yard dash four point five eight, that is going to

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Speaker 1: make him a very high third round pick, if not

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Speaker 1: a second round pick. You mentioned it in our first episode.

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Speaker 1: Depending on how the dominoes fall in the first round

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Speaker 1: and when those edge rushers go, if there's a run

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Speaker 1: on them in the top twenty, I think teams are

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Speaker 1: going to start getting desperate because if you don't have

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Speaker 1: a Patrick Mahomes, as we started this episode talking about,

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00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: you gotta get to a Patrick Mahomes. You gotta hurt

601
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: these guys, you gotta make life miserable for them, and

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: you can never have too many pass rushers. So for

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00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: that reason, I think he's gonna be a very early

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Speaker 1: third round pick.

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Speaker 2: Think with Kamara two and like, this is crazy comparison.

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Speaker 2: Obviously he's not close to that talent level. He's the

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Speaker 2: closest thing I've ever noticed, at least for me recently

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Speaker 2: with Michaeh Parsons, where when I watch Colorado State when

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Speaker 2: they're on defense, I'm watching Kamara and just like, is

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Speaker 2: he gonna get there this time? And like, like Parsons,

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Speaker 2: you always know where Parsons is, Like even when he

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Speaker 2: doesn't get a sack, you just like see him fly

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00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: across your screen and like either get double teamed or

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00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: swinging miss or the quarterback has to step up to

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Speaker 2: avoid him. Where that every single snap is determined based

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Speaker 2: on where Kamara is, Like they have to game plan

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Speaker 2: against him, and it's basically like he's either gonna screw

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00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: up the whole play or they're gonna are they are

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Speaker 2: they gonna be able to blot Like you just watch

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Speaker 2: him every play. I love I love watching him play.

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Speaker 2: The other edge rushers that probably go Eric Watts, Yukon

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Speaker 2: and Javon Solomon from Troy. I like Troy a lot

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Speaker 2: or Solomon a lot from Troy. He's just he's just undersized, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could talk about him really fast. He

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Speaker 1: is undersized, but he's fast, he's twitchy. For that reason,

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably gonna fall to the fifth rounds

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Speaker 1: because of, you know, his overall length.

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Speaker 2: And so when I'm reading like NFL draft like analysis,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing I love more than here in smooth hips.

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Speaker 2: Ohlman got them smooth hips.

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Speaker 1: He certainly has those smooth hips allowed him to lead

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Speaker 1: the country in sacks. I think you can do a

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Speaker 1: lot worse than adding the leader in sacks to your

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Speaker 1: roster at sixteen last year, three time all Sun Belt

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Speaker 1: team over you know, the course of his career. Honorable

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Speaker 1: Mention All American Once I watched him a ton because

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Speaker 1: I love Carlton Marshall on that defense a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago, but he actually stood out more in terms

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Speaker 1: of just wrecking plays in the passing game. And in

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Speaker 1: his career he had sacks against k State in South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: so he wasn't out of his element when they played

642
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Speaker 1: some of the best teams on their schedule. So he's

643
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: somebody that I think you can get at a discount

644
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: because of his physical limitations. But if you get him

645
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, I think there's no reason to

646
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: think that he couldn't add you know, let's call it

647
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: three four five sacks as a situational pass rusher by

648
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: you know, the first couple of years of his career.

649
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: YEP, I completely agree, all right. For linebackers, we got

650
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Jordan McGee from Temple Hyre, s Knight from UTEP, Easton

651
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Gibbs from Wyoming, John Tree Hunter from Georgia State, Dallas

652
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,719
Speaker 2: Gant from Toledo, and Jackson Mitchell from Yukon. Those are

653
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: the linebackers I expect to hear called. Two guys I

654
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: just wanted to quickly say we mentioned the Wyoming thing

655
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: copy paste Easton Gibbs just tackling machine smaller guys, so

656
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna fall, but just works his bag off. He's

657
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: a guy I'd love to have the sixth seventh round,

658
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: and then we mentioned it for Christian Haynes. Jackson Mitchell

659
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: is a guy I think really got hurt from coming back.

660
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: I think he's probably firmly a Day three draft pick

661
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: if he went came out of the draft last year

662
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: for Yukon. Now he's probably that fringe round seven UFA guy,

663
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: but he just did everything for that Yukon defense. And yeah,

664
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: I really wish he ended the draft last year after

665
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: that one hundred and forty tackle season. Do you have

666
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: any thoughts on those six guys?

667
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: I like Jackson Mitchell, I still do. The guy played

668
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: through injury like it wasn't it wasn't even hard to see,

669
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: like he had the huge cast on his arm, and

670
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: like that to me shows toughness because in the nil era,

671
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: oh like I'm not getting you know, enough endorsements, or like,

672
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: oh I could play at a better program and immediately any

673
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: opportunity transferring. This guy was stuck at Yukon after a

674
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: huge breakout season. By the way, he could have gone anywhere,

675
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: comes back, buys into it. Things just didn't go the

676
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Huskies way last year. We don't have to belabor that point,

677
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think that. I think it's a bit

678
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: of an overaction to say all of a sudden, oh,

679
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: they don't have guys who can play in the NFL.

680
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: We talked about Haynes in the first episode. I think

681
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell's somebody who can be a rotational guy in the NFL,

682
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: those tackling machines, making sure that those five yard runs

683
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: don't turn into twenty five yard runs. I know that

684
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: linebacker has become almost the mirror image of the running

685
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: back position on offense, where it's like, we don't value

686
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: this position anymore. We don't pay these guys a lot

687
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: of money. They're not as impactful as they were in

688
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: the nineties. That's true, but you still gotta have guys

689
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: who are reliable, and it's a position group that if

690
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: you don't have depth, where you don't have quality starters,

691
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: you can be taken advantage of in a serious way.

692
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: I think he can be somebody who can be a

693
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: value add you know, in the sixth or seventh round.

694
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: I hope he gets drafted because I think he's someone

695
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: who's proven, at least you know two years ago that

696
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: he's an absolute missile to the football. He is very

697
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: quick diagnosing plays, and he's a sure tackler, and he's

698
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: also someone who's disrupted you can force fumbles and get

699
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: into the backfield as well.

700
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: The country led the country and fumbles recovered the last year.

701
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Before last year all right, secondary, the only safety had

702
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: written now was Trey Taylor from air Force. And then

703
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 2: cornerback was weird because it was all over the map,

704
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: Like every site you looked for prospects, like there was

705
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: probably five or six g five corners that were listed,

706
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: but every site had a different like three or four guys,

707
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: so I didn't want to just write like every name.

708
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: The three big ones that I saw pretty much on

709
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: every list were Chicken Museum from Colorado State, Carlton Johnson

710
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: from Fresno State, and Mike Abraham from Marshall. There's a

711
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: few other guys that you know potentially fall into that list.

712
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: Are there any guys you know corner safeties that you

713
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 2: were interested in? The one I'll talk about of the

714
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: guys I just named is Mike Abraham because he's the guy.

715
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: Like I said that. I know we've talked about on

716
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: the Pod a lot. He was so good at Marshall

717
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 2: fifty five passes defended in twelve picks during his Marshall career,

718
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: led the Sunbelt and interceptions over the last two years.

719
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: Ballhawk and then just a quick ramp on this state

720
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: of you know, Pro Bowl, the NFL Drafts, Pro Day

721
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: combine stuff. I was reading his you know profile on

722
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: NFL dot com and this sentence made me so angry.

723
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: Looks twitchier on tape than he did at his pro day. Okay,

724
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: so then he's twitchy, Like I don't give a shit

725
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: what he did as Pro Day. If when he's playing

726
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: football he's fast in twitchy, then he's fast and twitchy.

727
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: You know.

728
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: We saw with Kyle Hamilton and his forty hard time.

729
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: It's like if you watch him at Our Dame, he

730
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: was fast, and then you see him with the Ravens

731
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: and that he's fast and like he's awesome and he's sick.

732
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: We mentioned it last year with Pogannakua, like watch him

733
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: with the football, he runs fast. See them like Abraham,

734
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: when you watch him play. He's twitchy, he's fast. I

735
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: don't care what he does as Pro day. When he's

736
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: playing for football, he's twitchy. So draft him to play football.

737
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: So that's my rant. I like Mike Abraham of kind

738
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: of those G five corners. Anybody I listed or anybody

739
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: else you want to talk about that you kind of

740
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: like coming out of the G five secondary.

741
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, first, I think there's a lot to be said,

742
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: particularly when you get to the mental aspect of the NFL.

743
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: There's paralysis through analysis where if you don't know exactly

744
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: the scheme or where you're supposed to be or where

745
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: players are going to be when you're playing in zone,

746
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: when you're passing people off and coverage, you can play slower.

747
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: And it can also go the opposite way, where, yes,

748
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: a guy may have two tenths of a second faster

749
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: on a forty yard dash, but if he doesn't know

750
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be or have that field feel

751
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, that he can play slower.

752
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: We've seen it play out. So I do think it's

753
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: a good point when you talk about the secondary. There's

754
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: just one guy that I was thrilled to research for

755
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: this piece, and it's Trey Taylor out of air Force,

756
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: first of all.

757
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: And I knew, I knew. I later wrote him down.

758
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: You want to talk about it, all right?

759
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is a dog. You watch that meme,

760
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you go through the whole roster. Dog.

761
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: This guy's a dog. He's Ed Reid's cousin. He won

762
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: the Thorpe Award last year, which is increasingly rare for

763
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: a G five player to win a national award. Taylor

764
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: is the first ever Thorpe Award winner recipient from Air Force,

765
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: and only the second Falcon to win a major college

766
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: football award, joining Chad Hennings, who won the nineteen eighty

767
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: seven Allen Trophy before contributing to the Dallas Cowboys Super

768
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Bowl teams. You'll get his PFF grade eighty two point six.

769
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: You'll get his rafts score nine point three to three

770
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: out of ten, twenty two bench reps at two twenty five,

771
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: twenty two, which is incredible for a player out of

772
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: the secondary, great vertical, great shuffle, three cone time. The

773
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: guy's a stud, and he's also a proven leader. At

774
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: the very least, I know he's gonna come in and

775
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: work his ass off because when you look at all

776
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: of his accomplishments on the field. He was also honored

777
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: by the Falcons as the Defender of the Nation award,

778
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: which is an award given to a college football player

779
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: from one of the name service academies based on exceptional

780
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: leadership qualities, performance on and off the field, and a

781
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: high standard of integrity. I understand that the NFL you

782
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: want to stock your team with the best players possible,

783
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: but it doesn't hurt getting a first class human being

784
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: who also is an incredible athlete to get in your

785
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: locker room because he can do it all. He was

786
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: a tremendous tackle or if you look at his highlight

787
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: reels that are making the rounds on social media, he

788
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: flew in like when he walked down to the box

789
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: like running backs had to be on notice because he

790
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: was throwing kids around like rag dolls, and he went

791
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and got the football. You know, there wasn't a whole

792
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities when teams were throwing at him, but

793
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: when they did, he took it away. And the last

794
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: piece of it is I don't know if you're in

795
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: on this news, but as it sits, this is going

796
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: to be the last year that the US government will

797
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: permit service academy players those at Army, Navy, Air Force

798
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: to jump directly to college or jump directly to the

799
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: NFL from college. Next year, athletes will be required to

800
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: serve two years in the military, which had been you know,

801
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: kind of the long established rule until twenty nineteen, so

802
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: they had this window in which they could make the

803
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: quick jump. This is the last time. He's going to

804
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: be the last player to do it. As somebody who

805
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: loves the position of safety because it's so versatile, some

806
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: of my favorite players in college and the pros played

807
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the position. This guy, the fact that they're having him

808
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: mocked like later in the NFL draft is bananas to me.

809
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: He is somebody that all you had to do. We

810
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: mentioned it with Kamara. There was a couple of Mound

811
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: West guys. There's some players who are like one of

812
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: these things or not like the other. You only had

813
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: to watch five or six snaps and you're like, what

814
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: is this guy doing at Air Force? Because he was

815
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: an absolute missile to the football and for that reason,

816
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: when you pair it with all the measurables, there's no reason,

817
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: in my opinion not to take him in the second

818
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: or third round, but apparently everywhere he's getting mocked. It's

819
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: interesting I mentioned on the previous podcast there's like aggregators

820
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: of all of the mock drafts around the internet right now.

821
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: His average pick is two hundred and fifty first his

822
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: best in the entire pross this was one hundred and sixth,

823
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: which still puts him, you know, not in that first

824
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: or second round conversation even close. You cannot convince me

825
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: there are two hundred and fifty college football players better

826
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: than this kid. I would take him as the second

827
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: or third best safety in this entire class. And as

828
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: I mentioned, world class human being, great plus to the

829
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: locker room. I want this guy on my team.

830
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: Hey, that's the guy you want to go to war with?

831
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Literally yeah, quite literally?

832
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: A right, that's all I got.

833
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: All right, So we have covered it all from Quinyon

834
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: Mitchell ideally being the very first G five player and

835
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: first cornerback. Hopefully it cashes my ticket there, MIAs win

836
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: fifty fingers crossed for Quinnyon the Toledo product to be

837
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: the first corner off the board. I think he will

838
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: be all the way down to the last pick in

839
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: the seventh round as well. As some undrafted free agents.

840
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: I do think there's going to be some more defensive

841
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: players that are going to be impactful in this draft

842
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: than necessarily the offensive side, as we saw last year

843
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: from G five Land, But that's no reason to you know,

844
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: throw any cold water on it. Any final thoughts about

845
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: this draft class top to bottom.

846
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: No, I think this is you know this, this one

847
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: isn't as bettable as you know most of our pods typically.

848
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: I think I think hopefully you guys use what we

849
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: say here. I mean, it's harder this year. It's not

850
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: many like receivers. But if you're someone who plays Dynasty Fantasy,

851
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,479
Speaker 2: like I said, we nailed it last year. The first

852
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: thing I did with my Dynasty draft ended was pick

853
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: up Pooka Nakua for free, and he's my you know,

854
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: he's like a top fifteen receiver. So you know, Rashid Ali,

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