1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Ron an Aanian that they're taking his vehicle to a 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: testless service center, who was quoted, are you ready. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Sixteen thousand dollars that's being told the entire battery would 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: needs to replace him So he reached out to Bernoid, 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: who was able to fix the small part using a 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: breast fitting. If you find a home improvement store for 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 2: only seven hundred dollars twenty three times less than test. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Tha's quotes, so I guess we're going to be going 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: a home depot to get our cars fixed. In the future, 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, we'll start fixing more Australian cars a lot. 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: I could say, oh yeah, you never know, but the 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: phone anyway, let's hop along. You get that kangaroo hop 13 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Australia segue like a led below. 14 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron an Inian, the 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: pick up the. 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: Phone and call in. 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: The garage doors. 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your calls 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: at eighty five five five six oh ninety nine hundred 23 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: and now pee running. Hey, welcome aboard, Thanks for us, 24 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by this this day and this weekend 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: and this day of the week whenever you're listening, and 26 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: we're happy to be here with you. My name is 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: Ron Andaniy and the Car Doctor. I'm here for you 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: That number is twenty four to seven, I should point out. 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: And you can call us anytime, day or night. We're 31 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: not when we're not on the air. We're live on 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: the air Saturdays two to four pm East Coast time, 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: and you can call eight five five five six zero 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero, leave a message and we will 35 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in the Q for 36 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: the next live broadcast. And we'd like you to call in, 37 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: you know, we really would. We'll be gentle, we promise. 38 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: This is real easy. You call up, ask a question, 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: we'll give you an answer. We'll help you fix your car. 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's. We would rather answer questions 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: here than by email because when we do it one 42 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: on one, it's a time element. You know, there's there's 43 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: only so much of me to go around, and its 44 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: benefits everybody. If we ask the question up by ourn air, 45 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: which is why sometimes you'll hear me read emails on 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: air so I can answer them. And you know, everybody 47 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: gets to hear, hey, here's here's a solution to a problem. 48 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what this is about. Keep in mind 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: I should point this out. You know, I guess as 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: summer's winding down now, you know we're coming up on 51 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: Labor Day weekends soon. You know, one thirty four refrigerant 52 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: there's going to be an announcement in October. I'm told 53 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: that one thirty four refrigerant there's there may be a 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: mandatory cut in production and there may be a ban 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: coming I'm hearing rumors of. So you know, just be aware. 56 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: If you're into air conditioning and you know, charging refrigerant 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and you do your own you 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: may want to put someone thirty four away because you 59 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: may not be able to find it come next season. 60 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: You know, it's the government's clamping down for whatever reason. 61 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: And you know they and the weird thing is they 62 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: haven't announced the replacement yet, which makes no sense to me. 63 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: They're talking about a ban or cut some production, but 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: they haven't announced a replacement refrigerant. So It makes me 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: wonder what we're going to say, makes me wonder what's 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: going to happen. I want to talk about tires, tires, tires, 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: tires as Jerry Tire. Jerry would always say, you know, tires. 68 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: We're having problems getting parts on a lot of things, 69 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: but tires seem to be contentious. I think is the 70 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: word big word, college word, you know. Stevie B Regular 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: customer OA Jeep Grand Cherokee s R T eight, I 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: believe it is. You know, the hot rod version of 73 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: the Grand Cherokee was in this week and he has 74 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: run flats on his jeep, which a lot of the 75 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Jeeps do, a lot of you know, the s R 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: T eight's the fancy jeeps do because of exhaust configuration, 77 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: chassis configuration and so on, and you know, it's a 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: neat vehicle. It's you know, it's a hot rod jeep. 79 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: And the front tires are a different size than the 80 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: rear tires and that's the way it came factory. But 81 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: they're run flats and they've never been cheap, but now 82 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: they're getting they're not just getting more expensive, they're also 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: getting very very hard to find. Local supply house didn't 84 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: have them. The second tier local supply house didn't have them. 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: We had a resort to going online, and at that point, 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, it was a question of availability. It would 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: take a week to get them, and the tires were 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: somewhere around the neighborhood if I remember right, of about 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: twenty four hundred dollars for a set of tires and 90 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: they're not even on the car yet. And you know, 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: part of the issue is because as the tires dwindle 92 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: and availability, you know, supply and demand, right, price goes 93 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: up when there's less tires to sell. And we see 94 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: that on everything, you know, tires, brakes, filters, filters or 95 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: another one, not to go off the subject, but real 96 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: quick filters, air and cabin filters. We're seeing fifty dollars 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: air filters now. You know, we buy filters on Monday, 98 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: we go to reorder them on Friday, and the filter 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: you know, went up nine bucks in a week. Not 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: all the time, but just enough of them out there. 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: It makes you wonder what's going on in the filter business. 102 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: That's that's definitely a problem. But Stevie going back to 103 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Steve and his tires, so you know, it's a run 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: flat issue now Steve has a nail in the left 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: rear tire and he didn't even realize it until he 106 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: pointed it out to him. He's been driving around like 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: this with the TPMs light on and he kept looking 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: at the tires, going, well, they don't go down. You 109 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: know it must be you know, it must be a 110 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: defective sensor. And I said, no, Steve, the reason the 111 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: tire doesn't go down is because it's a run flat. 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: It's got a stiffer sidewall. It's designed to support the vehicle. 113 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: It's doing what it's supposed to do, which you have 114 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: to realize that, all right, as the vehicle owner, you 115 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: have to realize that the vehicle. You're not going to 116 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: see a flat tire. With a run flat, it's always 117 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: going to be inflated. It's always it's it's designed to 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: run without air. So Stevie needs tires. I'm back to that. 119 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: He found them. They're going to be about two grand 120 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: and it's going to take ten days to get they're 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: on order. We should see them this week coming. But 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: imagine you're stuck on the side of the road with 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: a run flat and it doesn't work like that. You know, 124 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: you need a tire, and then what do you do. 125 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: In Stevie's case, he's driving a classic car. You know, 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, he might as well be driving a 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: seventy Corvette at least, you know, it's got a little 128 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: more style to it. But you know, it's parts are 129 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: an issue on older cars. Now tires are too. We 130 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: had it's not just the not just the older cars. 131 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: We had a twenty nineteen Toyota Siana this week. Also, Matthew, 132 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: who if you recall a couple of months back, I 133 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: told you the story about how the poor guy took 134 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: his family down on vacation, and I believe the car 135 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: was stolen in Maryland or Delaware. I forget where. They 136 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: parked it in a hotel parking lot, and they came 137 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: out the next day and it was gone. And when 138 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: they got back, what was left of it would fit 139 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: inside of a coffee can because they had sent the 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: car through the crusher. Well, Matthew has purchased a certified 141 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: pre owned toyotas seeing it, which is a nice vehicle. 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: I like to see in this you know, I think 143 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,559 Speaker 1: they I think they do a great job, not cheap, 144 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: but what is today? I believe this one the way 145 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: it's decked out and equipped. It's a seventy thousand and 146 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: seventy two thousand dollars vehicle. Well, he's had a couple 147 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of months now and he this week called me up 148 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, Ronnie, I've got a tire pressure 149 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: light on. I'm not quite sure what to do, and 150 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: I said, drop it off, Matt, let me take a look. 151 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: You know, we we'll make sure you're safe. We want 152 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: to be safe. It's tires, and we'll tell you what 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: we see. So he dropped it off, and we, you know, 154 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: we looked at it, and yeah, the left rear tire 155 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: had eighteen pounds of air in it, so it clearly 156 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: had a leak. I pulled it off and I got 157 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: to use the tank. I love the tank, the water tank. 158 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: I well, you know what, it's the cheapest diagnostic tool 159 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: I've got and it works great. It works every time. 160 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: All I have to do is fill it with water. 161 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: So I, you know, inflated a tire and you know, 162 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: put it in the water tank, and sure enough, in 163 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: a about five or six minutes. It took a while 164 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: to settle down because it creates a lot of foam 165 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: and frouth. When you put it in the you know, 166 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: you put it in the in the tank. We we 167 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: waited a couple of minutes and let it clear, and 168 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: you could see there was a crack in the sidewall 169 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: where the sidewall met the you know, the face of 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the tire, the side of the tire that actually rides 171 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: on the road, and the tire itself is coming apart. 172 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Here's the dilemma. The tire that was on the vehicle. 173 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: This vehicle has had two tires replaced at a clip, 174 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: not four, and that can be a problem. You know, 175 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: all wheel drive like this Siena, but any all wheel 176 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: drive vehicle, you know, you have to worry about diameter 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: of tire for equality, for balance in the system, and 178 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: it's really best to try and keep them as close 179 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: close to each other as possible, which is why, you know, 180 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: rotating tires is a great thing, right it. You know, 181 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: if you rotate tires moving around, it helps with wear 182 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: and helps promote tire life and things like that. So, 183 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, in the case of Matt, he had you know, 184 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: the two rear tires were newer. They had about seven 185 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: thirty seconds of tread on them. A new tire has 186 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: ten thirty seconds of tread, so they were thirty percent worn. 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: The front tires, though, were at two maybe three thirty 188 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: seconds of tread. They clearly needed to be replaced. Unfortunately, 189 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: both front tires weren't on the back because it was 190 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: the left rear, one of the better tires so to speak, 191 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: that had the damage to the sidewall. It gets expensive 192 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: four run flats. The run flats for that car were 193 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty bucks apiece, something crazy like that. 194 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: By the time you do some labor, by the time 195 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: you put an alignment on it, you've got a telephone 196 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: number for a set of tires that you know, twenty 197 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: years ago was half the price or a third the 198 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: price of adjusted for inflation. I think the important takeaway 199 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: for you is to be aware that your vehicle may 200 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: have run flats. They're being used more and more. There 201 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: is a degree of difficulty in repairing them. You know, 202 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: there is is a conversation right now that I don't 203 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: think we have a good answer on yet, where the 204 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: industry talks about can a run flat be safely repaired? 205 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: We should actually do that. We could actually get somebody 206 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: from a tire rep or a tire company to come 207 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: on and talk to us about repairing run flats and 208 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the practicality of it. Can that be done? So I'll 209 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: have to make a note of that too. We can 210 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: think of the call and you know it would be 211 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: interesting just talking about proper ways to repair tires. But 212 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: my point becomes, if you have no spare, if you've 213 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: got a Siena and you've got a third row seat, 214 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: a rearwood facing seat or a forward facing seat, third bro, 215 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: you don't have a spare. Know that, and you know 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of vehicles are like that today. And my 217 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: concern with it is when I every once in a 218 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: while you run into a run flat tire that gouges 219 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: the sidewall, It tears the side wall up, and it's 220 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: the tire is not strong enough at that point to 221 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: support the way to the vehicle seat. You need a spare, 222 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: which you don't have, so just run flat tires. Ah 223 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: technology what it's doing for us, so just be aware. 224 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: I just want to give you a little tire talk 225 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: this day as we kick off the car doctor. I'm 226 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: running eighty in the car doctor. I'm here at eight 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'll 228 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: be back right after this don't go away. 229 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: Whether it's a little red Corvette or you go. You've 230 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 4: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 231 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: We're on an eighty in the Car Doctor eight five 232 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 4: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 233 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: Now back to Ron. 234 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Hey and we are back running the Car Doctor at 235 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: your service. Great email here from Maurice. Maurice writes in Hey, Ron, 236 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: I listened to your show in Tucson on kV I 237 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: Saturday mornings between five a and seven eighths recorded from 238 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: the previous week and delayed, but it's still a great 239 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: show and I enjoy it. Thank you, Maurice. I appreciate 240 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: that I ran across this article and I thought you'd 241 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: be interested in it if you haven't read it already. 242 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: This guy, unfortunately brought brought into the choir everyone running 243 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: to the next great hope of the industry. As you've 244 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: correctly noted, in my opinion, we're moving too fast on 245 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: this Elon Musk Award winning marketing idea, and the infrastructure 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: of the country is definitely not ready for these vehicles 247 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: on a mass scale. And he goes on to talk 248 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: about there was a recent article that came out about 249 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: someone that had purchased a newer Ford ev F one 250 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: P fifty lightning pickup truck. And it's a sad story 251 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: in a way. He took his family out on vacation, 252 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: the owner of the truck, and he traveled, you know, 253 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: I think fourteen hundred miles from Canada down through into 254 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: the United States, and he couldn't get anywhere. He couldn't, 255 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: he couldn't, he couldn't find charging, and when he found charging, 256 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: it was more expensive than gassing up. And there were 257 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 1: issues with the vehicle long term, and he ended up 258 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: having to drop it off at the Ford dealer, at 259 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: a Ford dealer, renting a gas version of the vehicle, 260 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: you know, to continue the journey, and then pick it 261 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: up on the way back, writes, and I find it 262 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: interesting that the only clear thinking industry CEO is mister Toyota, 263 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: who says they'll stay with hybrids for now, you know. 264 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's clear thinking. I think hybrids are 265 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: the answer. I think hybrids do provide, you know, a 266 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: lot of balance and opportunity for the industry and for 267 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: cleaning things up. You know, we see this all the time. 268 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: We hear this all the time, that you know, the 269 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: infrastructure the infrastructure, and I don't get it. The emperor 270 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: has no clothes, and yet we continue to go in 271 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: this direction. To continue with Maurice's letter, many of Toyota's 272 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: shareholders want to run them out on a rail. 273 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 274 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. I maybe, but you know. But 275 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: for these statements, yet Forge Farley bets the future of 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: his company, and nav is getting rid of internal combustion 277 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: way too early in the game. What's wrong with CEOs? 278 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: They seem embarrassed because their vehicles aren't as sexy as 279 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: a tesla, even though it lists fifty percent of the 280 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: country can't afford a tesla. Here's the most important part 281 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: of Maurice's letter. I got to tell you this. This 282 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: is why I read this. This is the hook. What 283 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: about embracing Henry Ford's idea of creating a vehicle for 284 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: the masses, a vehicle that people can afford and is 285 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: a dependable vehicle. It seems that Toyota Motor Company is 286 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: only one that isn't totally in the process worrying about 287 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: the future of vehicle ownership like that. Let's proceed slowly, 288 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: carefully and thoughtfully. He concludes, about stepping into the swift 289 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: water of EV ownership, which the gentleman in this article 290 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: spent off a small fortune having to learn, unfortunately the 291 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: hard way. These vehicles are not quite so greatful the 292 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: planet that they seem to be, and at the moment 293 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: only only good for short, medium range travel. Faithful listener, 294 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Maurice from Tucson, Arizona. You know, Maurice, solid points and 295 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I think it's something we have to address at some point, 296 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: and I think we will. You know, we have Mark 297 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: Millson from time to time. He's, in my opinion, the 298 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: industry expert on what it's going to take to bring 299 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: EV to the light that it is and to or isn't. 300 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: And you know, as Mark says, you give it a 301 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: couple of years and you're going to start to see 302 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: people back down because it can't be done. You know, 303 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm all about listen, I'm all about clean up energy 304 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: in the environment, and I was worried about the planet 305 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: as the next guy. You know, if there's something here 306 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: to worry about, but the legislation, you can't legislate it 307 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: and regulate it into existence and expect it to work. 308 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: And you hear all these stories, you know, I love 309 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: how you read the stories. You know such and such 310 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: companies coming out with a battery that will charge in 311 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: ninety seconds and go four times the distance. And then 312 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: when you read the story, Yeah, they're working on that, 313 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: and they've got a rough prototype that doesn't quite do that, 314 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: but you know, given ten years, they'll get that to 315 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: do that because of the technology and the cost. So 316 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: it just not practical. Hey, Ron, less piece of email 317 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: today or list of this hour. This comes to us 318 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: from Mark Ron. I've been listened to you since the 319 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: early days on New York Radio. Thanks for all the 320 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: useful information you've shared. I have a twenty seventeen day 321 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: Tucson with about forty five thousand miles on it. Here's 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: another common story. I've been pretty happy about it, but 323 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: I've also heard your warnings. Hunday recently extended one hundred 324 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: thousand mile WARRANTYED one hundred and fifty. I'd be looking 325 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: to replace it or are the things I could do 326 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: to prevent some of the problems? Also, do you think 327 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: that the current model is okay to buy? Thanks for 328 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: your help. Mark originally from New Jersey but now on 329 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Rhode Island. You know what, Mark, this is a problem 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: for Hyundai, these engines just don't seem to be holding up. 331 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: And I you know, you can do your oil changes 332 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: on time. I've had people that do all their maintenance 333 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: do the oil changes on time, and the engines still 334 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: come apart. So there's a reliability problem here. And I 335 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: know Hyundai's working on this, and to their credit, they're 336 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: extending the mileage on the warranty and they're trying to 337 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: replace everybody's engines. But you know, brother, it ain't easy. 338 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of work. It's they've got 339 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: a you know, they've got a few things that they 340 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: have to take care of, and the sheer volume. I 341 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: talk to guys in Hundai dealerships to tell me they've 342 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: got anywhere, depending upon the dealership, they've got anywhere from 343 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty two cars apart and any one time 344 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: with engines pulled. Do I think it's worthwhile to get 345 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: rid of now if you can get a good price 346 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: for it, if you want to get rid of it, 347 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, it's because it'll be cost versus replacement costs 348 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: versus you know, what's the aggravation factor. Like I said, 349 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: there's more than a few bulletins about this from Hyundai. 350 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: You can go down and talk to your local Hondai dealer, 351 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: which you probably should because if you're if you own 352 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: a Hundai and you think you've got, you know, the 353 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: four cylinder that's got the engine problem, you may want 354 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: to go down there and talk to them because they'll 355 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: tell you proper procedure if you are you know, if 356 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: you're again, if you are an owner of a Hyundai 357 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: and you're doing oil changes, I don't care if you're 358 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: doing them on your own, if you're going to the 359 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: local quick Loube, if you're going to your regular mechanic, 360 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: if you're going to the dealer, they'll have a copy 361 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: of it, but have some kind of records of oil 362 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: changes because when those engines fail, and Mark I say 363 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: this to you and everybody else, when those engines fail, 364 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: they want to see oil change interval, you know, copies, 365 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: They want to know how often in between, and they're 366 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: doing that obviously. If you know, all of a sudden, 367 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: you can't produce an oil change for fifteen thousand miles, 368 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: that's their out. You know, they get out of it. 369 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: They don't have to deal with it. So you know, 370 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: if you can do if you can produce receipts. That's 371 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: what they're looking for. But as far as getting rid 372 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: of the car, I don't know. You know, I might 373 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: get rid of it for other reasons. I might get 374 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: rid of it for that. It all depends on what 375 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of shape the rest of it's in and what's available. 376 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: What would you buy? I appreciate the email. Keep on trucking. 377 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I'm wanting any of the car Doctor. I'm back right 378 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: after this. I coming by right up with Welcome back 379 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Actual, let's say the social media conversation 380 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: for later. Let's go talk to Dave in Michigan sixteen 381 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Nissan Rogue and some transmission issues. It looks like, Dave, 382 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 383 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 5: Thank you for taking my call. 384 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: You're welcome. 385 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I bought the car used with about one hundred 386 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: and four thousand miles on it. It runs fantastic, it's 387 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: great car. I love it, but all of a sudden 388 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: it started with some transmission issues. And I've changed the 389 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: fluid in it with the recommended NSH Tree liquid or 390 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 5: fluid that the that the company recommends, right, and it 391 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 5: hasn't made any difference. 392 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: Right in other words, you're using either original Nissan fluid 393 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: or something an aftermarket equivalent to Nissan fluid for that dematic. 394 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: I think it is or something like that, correct, right, 395 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: And it has it changed the way it operates or 396 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: still operates the same it was prior to changing the fluid. 397 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 5: Still operates the same before, Like I never changed the 398 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 5: fluid in it. I've changed the fluid in it several 399 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 5: times since I've owned it, just to keep it up 400 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 5: because I've heard they've had problems. But it started one 401 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 5: day had a crossed an intersection. It seemed it was 402 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 5: always when i'd get up to operating temperature, when it 403 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 5: when it was cold and stuff, it would shift fine 404 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: until it gets to operating temperature. Then all of a 405 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: sudden I'd go to cross an intersection. It's like the 406 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: axles were shaken up and down and from rear to front, 407 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 5: and then it started. The would rev way up to 408 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: like five thousand RPMs on its own, come back down. Yeah, 409 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 5: it was slipping. 410 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: And who services this vehicle, Dave, a dealer or a 411 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: private You do your own. 412 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: No, I do my own, many many many years ago. 413 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 5: I taught automotive technology before they got so technical. And 414 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: so for oil changes, breaks and things like that. I 415 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 5: still do that myself. 416 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a scan tool? 417 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 5: I don't, my grandson does. I took the one day 418 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: when I had it in town, before it started acting 419 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: up and the check engine light was on, I had 420 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 5: it scanned in an automotive shop that I buy a 421 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 5: lot of parts at. And the scan that came up 422 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: was a PO eight one code, which when I looked 423 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 5: it up, was to do with the transmission pressure sensor 424 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 5: or fluid pressure sensor. 425 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Right, zero eight forty one? Yes, okay, right? 426 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 5: And so then I had somebody I questioned whether or 427 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: not the computer to be cleared of that code before 428 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 5: it would correct itself. So I had had him eliminate 429 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 5: that code out of there. The engine lights stayed off 430 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 5: and so on and so forth, but it didn't make 431 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: any difference in the shifting. 432 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of what kind of scandal does your grant? 433 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: I think you said, your grandson? What kind of scandal 434 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: does your grandson have? Is it generic? Obed two? Kind 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: of going by your make model, you. 436 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 5: Know, I'm not sure what he has. The one that 437 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 5: the parts place had, they said, was just an average 438 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 5: scan tool. So then I took it to an ahead. 439 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Good, no, go ahead, you had finished your thought. 440 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 5: I took it to another guy who's a mechanic for 441 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: a long time and had him check it, and he 442 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 5: saw all kinds of codes that were there from a 443 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: long time ago. I had, you know, I had a 444 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: battery failure, the all alternator, it failed at one time, 445 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 5: and so he cleared some of that stuff out of there, 446 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 5: and then he cleared the the codes so that the 447 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: engine light was off and it's still off. But I 448 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 5: can't drive the car anyplace, right, And when I tried 449 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: to back it up the driveway after leaving his place, 450 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 5: which was two miles away, I couldn't even I lost reverse. 451 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: All right, So this probably needs a trans as much 452 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: as you don't want to hear that. And I understand that, 453 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: all right. 454 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 5: I know that's what I was. You know what I 455 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 5: could come up with also? 456 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you why. The P zero eight 457 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: forty one usually results in one of two things. It's 458 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: either a fluid issue, low fluid, dirty fluid, tired fluid, 459 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: fluid filled with debris, which brings the question where did 460 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: debris come from? Okay, or the trans is failed internally. 461 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: The reason I'm asking about scan tools. Is you can 462 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: go in and look, all right, eight forty one is 463 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: a fluid pressure sensor switch are they'll command the transmission 464 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: to They'll say, hey, go to fifty percent duty cycle 465 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: to apply the band to allow the transmission to operate. 466 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: They'll tell it fifty percent and then they'll look for 467 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's actual and commanded. You know, command says 468 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: do this. Actual is what comes out with a good 469 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: year make model scan tool, something that's you know, the 470 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: equivalent of the factory scan tool. You can look at 471 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: actual and commanded, so you know it's it's the old analogy. 472 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: I told you kids, I told you to go upstairs 473 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: and clean your room, and I went upstairs in your 474 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: room wasn't clean. Guess what you need a transmission? You 475 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: know it's it's that. So I mean you could you 476 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: could go do that and prove that. The reason I 477 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: was asking who works on this because Nissan, depending upon 478 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: your relationship with the dealer or wherever you're taking it 479 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: for service, Nissan did have some extended warranties. I believe 480 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: by sixteen they had stopped. I think they were more 481 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: fourteen and down, you know, going into the thirteen's, twelves, 482 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: elevens and so on. But I know Nissan had extended 483 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: some of the warranties on these CVT transmissions up to 484 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: ten years, one hundred and fifty thousand miles. I just 485 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: don't know where the year break was where they stopped 486 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: doing that, But it might be worth a phone call 487 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: to the dealer to say, hey, you know I bought 488 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: one of these things. Here's what it is. Because I 489 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: don't quote me on this, and please don't faint, but 490 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: I think you're going to find that that trans is 491 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: somewhere between six and seven grand installed. Not a cheap 492 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: not a cheap unit. You know, it's it's at least 493 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: worth it to go down there and have a conversation 494 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: and maybe you know, you can kind of finesse him 495 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: into hey, if I buy the I if I pay 496 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: for the part, well you guys provide the labor. Since 497 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: it's such a known problem. Will that get you anywhere? 498 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you'll feel better about it at 499 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: least when you get to pay the credit card bill 500 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: next month. 501 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 5: You know, I did get a letter from about a 502 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 5: year ago, right, and uh, this was from the manufacturer 503 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: about the problem and they extended it to a certain 504 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 5: amount of miles, and then when I talked to the factory, 505 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: they said, oh, no, yours is past it. So there's 506 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 5: nothing we can do for you. So, because that was 507 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 5: before the problem started, right, So I but so I 508 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 5: know they're out. I've talked to the dealer about that 509 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 5: sensor and it's and they say it's in the valve body, 510 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: in the valve bodies almost two thousand dollars. 511 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Well then, and to take out the valve body and 512 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: to go through all that. How many miles are on 513 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: the car now, Dave? 514 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: One hundred and ninety two undred, Dave, you. 515 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: Got to buy a transmission. You're done, I know it. Yeah, 516 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: you got You got twenty thousand miles on a transmission 517 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: that likely failed at the one twenty mark. You know 518 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of nursed it all this way. Uh. 519 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: The other thing to be aware of is and it 520 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: was more the pathfinders, but I did see it occasionally 521 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: on the rogues where the radiators had internal trans cooler 522 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: issues and the but usually those failed calamitously, very quickly. 523 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: The fact that you were able to nurse this thing 524 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: for another seventy eighty thousand miles. Probably not, but you 525 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: may want to think about if you invest in a radiator. 526 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you invest in a transmission. You may want 527 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: to invest in a radiator too, because that's seven to 528 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: one eight years old, two hundred thousand miles, and you 529 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: don't want to put a six seven thousand dollars transmission 530 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: in it and then have the radiator fail and cause 531 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: a problem as a result of the trans fluid getting 532 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: contaminated with colon. 533 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 5: So how do you feel about an external cooler? For yeah? 534 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 5: Why not? Sure? 535 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: Why not? I? And you know what we I've seen 536 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: quite a few of those where they'll bypass the factory cooler. 537 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: But you know, obviously it needs a cooler, but first 538 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: you got to get a transmission in, kiddo, all right? 539 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, Unfortunately I wish I had a 540 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: better answer for you. 541 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 5: I was thinking about it. I've been this has been 542 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 5: just tearing me apart for several weeks now, and I thought, well, 543 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: maybe you know, maybe there was something I'm missing. 544 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: Well, no, listen, I can I can convince you to 545 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: I can convince you to put a trans in it? 546 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: Real easy or not? All right, have you priced a 547 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: new vehicle yet. 548 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: Well I haven't. I still owe over five thousand on 549 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 5: this one, oh, Dave, And I'm unfortunately, Oh I know, Oh. 550 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: Dave, I'm so sorry. Yeah, but listen, I can make 551 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: you feel better about it. Go go go price a 552 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: new Go price a new vehicle. You know it's it's 553 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: it's just that simple, all right, because I think you're 554 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna find although you know now you're going to be 555 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: into this vehicle not five thousand, You're going to be 556 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: into this vehicle twelve thousand. And you know at two 557 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles, you do have to play what if? 558 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: You know what? What if? 559 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 5: Is? Right? Oh? 560 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what if the engine fails? What will 561 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: you do next? So sometimes you're better off punting. Maybe 562 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: there's a deal out there where you can purchase a 563 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: used vehicle and roll your debt into the next one. 564 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but you know, there might be some 565 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: better financial alternatives versus you know, just you know, doing 566 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: it that way. And so but anyway, let me go, Dave, 567 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: I got to pull over. I appreciate your call, and 568 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here for us. We're glad to 569 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: help you anyway we can. Let us know what you decide. 570 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: We can talk about it on are at another time. 571 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: All right, Kitto, You'll be well, you'd be well. I'm 572 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: running any of the Card Doctor. We're back right after this. 573 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back, I'm running the Card Doctor. Let's two for 574 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a quarter, Dave writes, and Hey, run twenty ten Cadillac 575 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Escalade with a sticky slip yoke on the drive shift. 576 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: After breaking to a stop and loading these suspension there's 577 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: a pop coming from the slip yoke when taking off 578 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: from a stop. I've greased it several times and the 579 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: problem comes back. I did research and want your opinion 580 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: about the nickel plated slip yoke. Will this solved the 581 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: problem long term? I've got an older Chevy truck and 582 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: i never had this issue. Dave, be careful of the 583 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: nickel plated slip yoke. My understanding is that this slip 584 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: yoke noise, this this popping sound, is because of how 585 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: the splines are interfacing to the output shaft of the 586 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: trans So when you say nickel plated slip yoke, I'm 587 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: thinking you're telling me around the outside, all right, which 588 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: isn't a bad thing. But the problem we're trying to 589 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: circumvent is on the inside of the yoke, So are 590 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: we talking about the same thing here? Are you saying 591 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: it's nickel plated on the inside of the yoke. I 592 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: have seen different plated, different treated yokes solve this problem, 593 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: and then they're put on with a specific grease. So 594 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: then your next question would be, whoever's making or providing 595 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: this yoke, is there a specific grease to solve the problem? 596 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: That's that's worked it out. And keep in mind too, 597 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: you want to make sure that the bushing and the 598 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: tail shaft of the transmission is not worn out, creating 599 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: an issue as well. Sometimes if this is an older vehicle, 600 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: it's thirteen years old, I don't know what the mileage is, 601 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: but play in the support bushing there can create this 602 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: issue as well. Last it's not common, but I have 603 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: seen it happen where problems with rear suspension, rubber bushings, 604 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: control arms, things like that will create erratic drive shaft movement, 605 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: shall we say it like that that causes this popping 606 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: noise as well, So just just be aware of that. 607 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: Second one two thousand and one Pontiac Grand Prix with 608 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: a three to eight V six runs rough obviously missing 609 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: on one or more cylinders, pulled coded and showed a 610 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: mass airflow out of tolerance, sprayed it with cleaner and 611 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: that code did not come back and now runs great 612 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: until it warms up. Then how does it run? It 613 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: just doesn't run well? You know, good fuel pressure, suspect 614 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: the ignition, pulled it out, checked all three cools of 615 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: mounting plate, took it over part store. How to test 616 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: to check that good? Thoughts? Well, yeah, it does it 617 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: run the same? Does it still run like it's got 618 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: a misfire? You know there are ways because this is 619 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: an older distributist ignition vehicle. You know with the three coils? Uh, 620 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, where does it report the misfire? Can you 621 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: swap those three coils around? They were all the same. 622 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: Can you move I think they were numbered. I think 623 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: was one in six, two and five and no three 624 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: and six, two and five, one and four. Can you 625 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: move those around and make the misfollow the coil. I've 626 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: seen more than a few bad coils where they were 627 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: tested good, but they just didn't work. So, you know, 628 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: the outo part stores checking for circuit continuity, it's not 629 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: really able to do performance if it's the test are 630 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of it's a bench test, you know, it 631 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: could still be something in the module. And for that matter, 632 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: do we have a crank sensor problem, do we have 633 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: other sensor related issues? What sort of scan tool do 634 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: you have? The fact that it changed with mass airflow? 635 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: And this is what caught my eye here real quick. 636 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: The fact that it changed with mass airflow may makes 637 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: me think this is a mass airflow sensor problem or 638 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Can you do can you get 639 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: it to run good enough cold? Can you do a 640 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: calculated load test wide open throttle down the road, put 641 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: your foot through the headlight. This calculated load hit one 642 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: hundred percent. If it falls short, chances are this could 643 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: also be part of the problem or the problem a 644 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: bad mass airflow sensor. Two good problems, Dave. They'd be 645 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: great to talk about on the phone. Give me a call. 646 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm running ady in the car doctor. We'll be back 647 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, I'm running of the car doctor, 648 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: busy hour, right. I appreciate the calls. I appreciate you 649 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: guys reaching out and the comments and the questions. I'm 650 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: stunned at Dave. I think it was Dave with the 651 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: CVT transmission at two hundred thousand miles. Dude, that needs 652 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: a transmission. You're done. I'm just not quite sure what 653 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: I would do with the five thousand dollars upside down 654 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: on the loan for the vehicle. But I, you know, 655 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: we're going through this. At the shop, Danny's brother Tony 656 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: found a nineteen ninety six Dodge pickup truck twenty five 657 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: hundred worth a five to nine comings diesel stick. And 658 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, Tony's one of those wild kids that 659 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: he just always finds these deals. And he was all 660 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: hot to trot and all ready to go until he 661 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: brought the truck to the shop, and I went through 662 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: it and looked at the front end and gave him 663 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: a detailed list of you know, the ninety eight hundred 664 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 1: dollars worth of work that this truck that's not worth 665 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars needs. Well, you know, supposedly the truck's 666 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: worth a lot of money. I don't think so. It's 667 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: almost thirty years old. We can't get half the parts 668 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: for it from Chrysler anymore. A lot of it's going 669 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: to be half the market. And as I said to Tony, 670 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: and as I as I was trying to say to Dave, 671 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: there comes a moment where it's you got a fish 672 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: and cut bait. I mean it's time to you know, 673 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: we're done, get out of it, you know, but to 674 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: go deep. I don't know if I'd go deeper into 675 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: a two hundred thousand miles seven year old Nissan rogue 676 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: with a transmission that needs to be replaced, and what 677 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: shape is the rest of it unless you're ready to 678 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: make the commitment, because you've always got to play what if? 679 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: What if? This goes? So till the next time I'm 680 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: running aiding the car doctor. Thanks for being here till 681 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: the next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 682 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: See you