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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middle Coop three and

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Speaker 1: Out podcast, a little post fourth of July show, And

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Speaker 1: I want to thank the sports gods. Last week they

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Speaker 1: gave us Cam Newton and the Patriots. This week they

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Speaker 1: gave us Mahomes contract extension, historic amount of money, ten

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Speaker 1: year extension. Basically he has two years left on his deal.

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Speaker 1: It's overall, I think a twelve year contract, four million.

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Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of money. We'll dive into

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Speaker 1: all things Mahomes, uh, from every different angle off the

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Speaker 1: top of the show. We're also going to talk about

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Speaker 1: some other things that I saw the day, UH, some

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Speaker 1: And I think you see the disconnect in a lot

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Speaker 1: ground floor. And then an article that I saw that

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Speaker 1: came out about the PAC twelve Commissioner Larry Scott and

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Speaker 1: And I think it wasn't that long ago that the

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Speaker 1: Will dive into that, and then of course the Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: Now let's dive into all things Patrick Mahomes and the

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Speaker 1: story breaks you see ten years you just go. It's

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Speaker 1: one of those stories where you're not even shocked, right

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Speaker 1: to me, Cam Newton to the Patriots, Not that it's

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Speaker 1: even that unbelievable. I think, just think it's a little shocking.

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, it actually happened. What do you think

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Speaker 1: that the Chiefs we're gonna do. Not sign this guy

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Speaker 1: to a contract. He's three years into his career, two

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Speaker 1: you just go, this guy is a superstar. Now you

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Speaker 1: this guy is on a completely different level. The head

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Speaker 1: That's just a fact. Joe Flacco basically made every penny

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Speaker 1: the teams are following the same protocols. But Roger Goodell

426
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Speaker 1: and his cronies they know television contracts, they know how

427
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 1: to make high margins, they know how to sell jerseys,

428
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: they know how to market the product on television and

429
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: print cash. They know nothing about putting a practice script together,

430
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Speaker 1: or how meeting rooms work, or how setting up training

431
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: camp works. They have no clue. Well, a huge part

432
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Speaker 1: of setting up Corona protocols is understanding that, right, it's

433
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: no problem for them to give advertising buy backs and

434
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: change stuff around. If they have to move the season around,

435
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: they can do that with anybody. They will be more

436
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: than flexible operating that way. But when it comes to

437
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: it's easy to write on a piece of paper make

438
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: sure every player in a meeting room is six ft apart. Well,

439
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: the coach will tell you we don't have that much

440
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: square footage in a meeting room, or make sure we

441
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: do this at practice, and they would go, well, this

442
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: isn't feasible. You know why, because they've never been a

443
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Speaker 1: player coach. They have no clue. Now, there are a

444
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Speaker 1: couple of former play years like Martin Hank's in the

445
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: front office of the NFL, but the differences as a player,

446
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: you just do what you're told. You don't ever think about, well,

447
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: this is how it would be set up from a

448
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: coaching and a front office standpoint. And I've seen some

449
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: reports that the league is bracing four from going from

450
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: nine rosters down to seventy five during training camp with

451
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: because of the virus. I actually think that's gonna be counterproductive.

452
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna need more bodies because the no one's practiced

453
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Speaker 1: as a team, you know, for nine months or eight months,

454
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: and guys are gonna get not only corona, they're gonna

455
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: get injured. We saw I think the most injuries that

456
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: have happened over the last decade came in the lockout.

457
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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a lot more injuries. So it's

458
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Speaker 1: easy to be like, well, I'll just cut off fifteen

459
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: people to limit the corona. Uh you know, uh, the

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Speaker 1: ability for it to spread, which sounds good on paper.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't know anything about a training camp or

462
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Speaker 1: how it operates, I throw out the same statement. But

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Speaker 1: when I think about it from someone that's been a

464
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: part of carrying these free agent lists, and when guys

465
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: go down and training camp, flying them in and pick

466
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: them up at the airport and signing them. That's you

467
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: need a lot of bodies. There is a reason the

468
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 1: g ms and the coaches pounded the table to expand

469
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: the roster from eighty to ninety because guys get hurt.

470
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: You want to give guys rest. And this is such

471
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Speaker 1: an unprecedented time because guys have not been practicing besides

472
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: like their little throwing sessions on their own, which we

473
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: know is not football. I mean it is in the

474
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: sense of it's like seven on seven, but practice, you

475
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Speaker 1: do team stuff, you train with your teammates. It's a

476
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Speaker 1: lot different. And I just I'm not saying like they're

477
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: doing it out of They're coming from a good place.

478
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Speaker 1: They're trying to do everything possible to limit the ability

479
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: for Corona to spread with teams. So you're gonna follow

480
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: all the protocols that you're reading everywhere else, but it

481
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: might not be functional. And I've said for a while,

482
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Speaker 1: just based on the statements from John Harbaugh, from Sean

483
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Speaker 1: McVeigh who said, like it's impossible to social distance in football,

484
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: because it's true, like it'd be easy for Roger goodellill

485
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: be like no huddles are allowed. What's easy for him

486
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: to say that from his biggest office in Park Avenue.

487
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: Tell that to Belichick, Tell that to Kyle Shanahan like

488
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: and again I'm not anti like sometimes you gotta change

489
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: and adapt. But and I also read they were gonna

490
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: have a big conference call with the gms and coaches.

491
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: You need to get their input. You need to have

492
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Speaker 1: part of putting together a plan. I would say in

493
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: any business, and definitely the military. Is is it functional?

494
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: Like you can't just be like, well, I'll just climb

495
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: that mountain. Someone might go, well, that mountain is unclimbable.

496
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: That's not we have to go around the mountain. And

497
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: unless you talk to a guy that actually can climb

498
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: the mountain, you wouldn't know. He's like, I'll just go

499
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: over it. That's easy. Just do this, do that, like, well,

500
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Speaker 1: we can't sell that many cases, or we're gonna sell

501
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: ten times that many cases. And when you get people

502
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Speaker 1: on the ground floor that tell you that that's feasible

503
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Speaker 1: or not, it helps you to kind of meet in

504
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: the middle and be safe in a protocol that's actual

505
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: possibly uh, you know, able to be executed. Because right now,

506
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: if you just let Roger Goodell in the suits in

507
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: Park Avenue dropped these Corona plans. It'll look great on paper.

508
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,479
Speaker 1: It's why every prefector you know, every teacher I ever

509
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: had in college, they were unreal with the charts. Supply demand,

510
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: you mark it this much, you sell the product, you're

511
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: a millionaire. It's like, well, if you're this big of

512
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: a genius, you're telling me this, why are you sitting

513
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: here teaching me? Why aren't you out making the money. Uh,

514
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: there's a reason. Most people that do do most people

515
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: that can't teach. And I'm not not a shot of

516
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: teachers as more of a college professors teachers. I'm a

517
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: big fan of teachers. I'm I was friends with my

518
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: college professors, but they talk a big game, especially in

519
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: the business world. You know, a lot of charts, a

520
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: lot of theories, a lot of this is really easy. Well,

521
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: it's very black and white on the white board, no

522
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: different than in a football coach drawn up a play. Well,

523
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: it's it's easy to say, just you know, uh, hold

524
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: off the defensive end and then the defensive end is

525
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Khalil mckravon miller. You know, just sell this many products

526
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: and then recession hits right or marketing, you know, social

527
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: media starts and television and radio disappears. Who know, things change,

528
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: but you need to have communications. So when I see

529
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: that the communication from the league office with their coaches

530
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: and their gms has been virtually non existent, that's a

531
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: problem because you you have to get these guys input

532
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: so you can put together protocols and you know, put

533
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: these teams in the situation to actually be successful with

534
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: the virus, because if you just put it down the paper,

535
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: it'll look sweet and it'll look good when they tweet

536
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: it out at NFL tweets out all the protocols and

537
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is so safe. They're gonna do this,

538
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: and then I'll be like, well, it's not possible to

539
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: do this right. So I think the g ms and

540
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the coaches need to play a much bigger role in this. Okay,

541
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: let's dive into something I saw today about the Pack

542
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: twelve and I I think no conference has been more

543
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: negatively impacted perception wise the last several years as West

544
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Coast football and basketball. The Pack twelve is really really struggled.

545
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: Their network is you know, invisible to most people, even

546
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: people on the West Coast. Right if you have dish

547
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: or direct TV, you do not have it. I have Comcast.

548
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: I get it and I use it, you know when

549
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: big football games are going on, but the networks are relevant.

550
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: It's been a complete failure. The their ability to get

551
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: teams in the college football playoffs has struggled. I would

552
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: have said when the college football playoffs began, the PAC twelve,

553
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: the SEC, the Big Ten, the Big twelve are kind

554
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: of all on equal playing footing. The SEC over the

555
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: last seven eight years has gone to a different stratosphere.

556
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: When Urban went to Ohio State and then they got hardball,

557
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: Penn State came back to you know, national relevancy. Wisconsin

558
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: with Chris and uh Iowa still solid, like the Big

559
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Ten is easily the second best conference then the a C.

560
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: In Big twelve, at least they have Oklahoma and Clemson

561
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: who make the playoffs and win national champions The PAC

562
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: twelves and complete chambles. And it starts with the leadership.

563
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time, is the SEC

564
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten and the Big twelve in the

565
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: a c C they suck, but they do prioritize sports.

566
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: In the Pact twelve right now, we just don't. We

567
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: prioritize academic first. And listen, it's college athletics. But if

568
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: you if you're consumed with making money, you better go

569
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: all in on football. And I tipped my hat to

570
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Oregon they have done that. Even the University of Washington

571
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: has done a good job saying with Utah and they

572
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: have been the best three programs over the last five

573
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Speaker 1: or six years by a relatively wide margin. U S

574
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Speaker 1: C U s U C l A, and Shambles just

575
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: absolute chambels. Stanford had a really good run, just hard

576
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Speaker 1: for them to maintain it because of their academic kind

577
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: of excellence and the recruiting aspect of it. But I

578
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: read a story, uh that the CEO board, which is

579
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: basically the chancellors and the presidents, are thinking about firing

580
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Larry Scott, the commissioner of the Pact twelve. And during

581
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: this time of economic prosperity, the Big ten is printing cash.

582
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: The SEC is like Bank of America. Larry Scott, the

583
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: commissioner of the PAC twelve is somehow the highest paid

584
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 1: commissioner of all the power five commissioners. That doesn't make

585
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: any sense, So think about that. Well, then during this

586
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Speaker 1: recession and pandemic that everyone's had to take somewhat of

587
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: a haircut right, and a lot you've seen a lot

588
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: of companies if you make six figures, I would imagine

589
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: some people listening have been impacted. If you have a contract,

590
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: whatever said company you work for, and you make over

591
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars, A lot of companies i've read

592
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: in all types of industries have done a mandatory ten

593
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: percent cut. The irony is, you'd be better off making

594
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: ninety nine thousand dollars than making a hundred and five

595
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars and taking that hundred five you know, thousands,

596
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: a hundred five thousand dollars and taking a ten percent

597
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: pay cut. But so if you make a hundred and

598
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars, you can have to take a ten

599
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollar pay cut, or excuse me, a ten percent

600
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: pay cut. Larry Scott makes five point three million dollars

601
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: more money than any other commissioner. He took a twelve

602
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: percent pay cut, and in the article I read basically

603
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: just said that's embarrassing. He should have taken about a

604
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: fifty percent pay cut. But Larry Scott kind of feels

605
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: like when you watch him, he's like a perfect fit

606
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: for academia. No wonder some of these presidents and chancellors

607
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: of these West Coast to lead US institutions love him

608
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't want him anywhere near my football or

609
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: baseball or basketball programs for the life of me, and

610
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: I definitely wouldn't pay him over five million dollars. They

611
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: have this studio that's in San Francisco, which I've been

612
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: in and I've done some stuff for. It's really cool,

613
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: but it doesn't make that much sense to be in

614
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: San Francisco if you're the Pack twelve one. It's really

615
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: really expensive to operate here, and the square footage they

616
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: have in downtown San Francisco, it's super expensive. And the

617
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: network isn't making any money. They have been losing cash

618
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: for years. Should have been in Vegas, they could have

619
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: picked countless and some somewhere in Arizona. I get they

620
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: wanted in the middle, but geographically, who cares go to

621
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: where it's cheap and functional to be. But regardless that,

622
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, to me should on fire this individual

623
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: because if this was the SEC or this was the

624
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten, there is no chance that Larry Scott would

625
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: still be surviving, you know, and have his employment as

626
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: the Commissioner of the Conference because football and money are

627
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: too important. They are the lifeblood now of college sports,

628
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: and the PAC twelve is falling further and further behind

629
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: all these other conferences. And I was thinking about this

630
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: because you go, well, the thing with Oklahoma football, Ohio

631
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: State football, or Michigan football, or you know the SEC teams,

632
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: their fan bases are so big. And I'd say one

633
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: thing we battle out here on the West Coast is

634
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: a lot of our big programs are in cities, unlike

635
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: the SEC or even the Big Ten, where you're competing

636
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: with pro teams. But here's what I do know is

637
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: that the pro cities like Seattle, the Bay Area, Los Angeles, Arizona,

638
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Speaker 1: UH have huge fan bases for their teams, like the

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Speaker 1: Lakers are arguably the second biggest brand in America behind

640
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Right the forty Niners are a top five

641
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: NFL brand. The Seattle Seahawks have become huge, and clearly

642
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: the passion for sports out west is really big. But

643
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: here's the key. Unlike a lot of these other areas

644
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Speaker 1: and the SEC, and I think the Northeast is like

645
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: this with their proteins like the Red Sox or the

646
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: Phillies or the Eagles or the Yankees, even when they suck,

647
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: people care. The one thing that binds us on the

648
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: West Coast. We do not care when your team's loose.

649
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: When the forty Niners are four and twelve, people don't

650
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: pay attention. We do not hate watch the teams out here.

651
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: When the Lakers suck, the ratings plummet, and with the

652
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Phillies if they go five hundreds, like people are taking

653
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: it in at high rates in Philadelphia. Out here, it's

654
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: not the case. The Giants were terrible last year. Nobody

655
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: watched historic low ratings because we got too much to do.

656
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: The sun, just the culture out here. But when you win,

657
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: even in college, look at Oregon, they've been winning now

658
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: for two decades. Places always packed. Always when Pete Carroll

659
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: had se rowling the Dodgers, the Kobe was there, it

660
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't matter that place was humming. We care when when

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00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: Cal wins under Jeff Tedford, that place is sold out.

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00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: Moral Stadium grew up going there, cool environment. The Washington

663
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: Huskies when they've had a really good teams, that places

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Speaker 1: rocking and rolling up there. But you gotta win. Utah

665
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: has been really good the last couple of years. That

666
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: place I think Rice Echo Stadium is what they call

667
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Speaker 1: it is a big time you know, it's a tough

668
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Speaker 1: place to play. And I think the SEC and the

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00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten are good examples of they understand the importance.

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00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: Now the commissioner can only do so much. And one

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00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: thing Larry Scott has said, and he's not necessarily wrong,

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00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: I don't hire and fire coaches. I'm not the guy

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00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: recruiting these players. That is on the individual programs, and

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Speaker 1: I would agree, But to me, you are the top

675
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: of the food chain, and you are the guy determining

676
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: and forcing the importance of the Almighty dollar and the conference.

677
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: And when I watched the SEC, I just go, goddamn.

678
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: They treat their product like the NFL. When I watched

679
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, I think the same thing. When I

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00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: watched Oklahoma football and Texas football, Texas sucks. And I

681
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: just know that Carol Lot they do everything. I don't

682
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: feel that out here. Really. The only program that I

683
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: feel every chip is in the middle of table right

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00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Now's organ maybe you taught to given their resources, and

685
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 1: I think it starts at the top. And I don't

686
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Speaker 1: necessarily have a solution to this. I just know this

687
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: guy has to go, and you need to get an

688
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: individual who understands the West coast but brings that big,

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00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, conference mindset. We're here to be massive. If

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Speaker 1: that means getting linked up with ESPN, if that means

691
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: getting linked up with Fox, whatever you have to do,

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00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: you have to be available in two thousand twenty to everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's why podcasts are wiping out radio. They're the easiest

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Speaker 1: thing to you just press a button on your phone

695
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: and you listen radio, Like, what's the channel? Where are

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00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: these guys? I go out of market? Can I hear it? Boom?

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: Podcast stream boom, press a button stream the SEC. It's

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00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: really I can just find their product. Really, I don't

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Speaker 1: know where the Pact twelve is and I live in

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Speaker 1: Pact twelve country. So they need to get a guy,

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00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: a heavy hitter from one of these conferences. I don't

702
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: pretend to know you know, the next Nick Saban of commissioners.

703
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: But it's timed up your game. It's time to get

704
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Speaker 1: rid of this guy who just gave himself a twelve

705
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: percent pay cut in the middle of a pandemic, when

706
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: his conferences in shambles, shameful, embarrassing, a joke, But that's

707
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: what elite us do. They beat to their own drum.

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00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: He doesn't think he's doing anything wrong. He probably thinks

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Speaker 1: he's crushing it. Why wouldn't he. He's making more money

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00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: than everyone else. I'd probably think that too, so would you. Well,

711
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: I'll promise you from an outside perspective, you're not crushing it, Larry,

712
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: You're an embarrassment. And if you were in a conference

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Speaker 1: that truly valued football and this, listen, this is gonna

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Speaker 1: be an uphill battle for whoever takes over this conference.

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00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: The president's out here don't quite understand it. Clearly in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. The guy Obama, the guy at LSU, the

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00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: guy at A and M, the guy at Florida, guy

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: at Georgia, they understand when football crushes, so does the school.

719
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Speaker 1: Your enrollment goes up, your money flow goes up, everyone wins.

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Speaker 1: We don't quite get that on the West Coast. It

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Speaker 1: pains me because I'm a football and a sport lover,

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Speaker 1: and when I was growing up, the Pack twelve was

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Speaker 1: the real deal. We produced teams that competed for national

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Speaker 1: championships in both basketball and football. We no longer do that.

725
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Speaker 1: It pains me. I'm rooting for the conference to get back.

726
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: I think we have an uphill battle. But to me,

727
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: the only way that the first step toward relevancy is

728
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Speaker 1: the fire this dude. Okay, let's get into the Middlecoff

729
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram handle. Slide

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Speaker 1: right into those d m s and you get your

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Speaker 1: question answered here on the podcast. Let's start with uh,

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Speaker 1: got a lot of responses here for Mahomes. Holy sh it,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes ten years question. It's hard to do that if

734
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Speaker 1: your case it's hard not to do that if you're Casey,

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Speaker 1: But damn if he gets hurt. Yeah, I mean, just

736
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: don't have a choice. You know, it's technically twelve years

737
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Speaker 1: because it's an extension, so he's got two more years

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00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: than ten years now. As of right now, the numbers

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00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: are kind of all over the place. I think I

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00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: said four fifty earlier, four eight, five hundred, whatever. We

741
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: know how NFL contracts work. I'm not overreacting to the numbers.

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Speaker 1: I think the number that I saw hundred forty and

743
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: true guarantees, which would be the highest guarantee in the

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00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: history of the league. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback and you're good. You play at

746
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: your contract. Joe Flacco played out his contract, Derek Carr

747
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: played out his contract. You know, Eli Manning forever played

748
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: out his contract like he's gonna get a lot of

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00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: money and he deserves it. It's just it's the risky

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00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: part of doing these long contracts. I don't know what

751
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: else you do it. You probably do the longer deal

752
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: more because, uh, for cap reasons. How many Super Bowls

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00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: do Patrick and Andy win during the tenure contract? Well,

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00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: I would guess they got a decent chance. I would

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00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: take the over under it. I'd put it one and

756
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: a half the next five years and think they have

757
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: a chance to win two out of the next five years,

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00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: so they basically win three and you know, and what

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00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: seven years. That would be a pretty good Patriot like

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Speaker 1: Ron if he can get two more and you have

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Speaker 1: three championships, you know, Peyton's or excuse me, Brady six.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say that's unattainable. Let's look at other elite quarterbacks.

763
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: Montana's got four, always got too. Manning's got to, you know, Eli,

764
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Speaker 1: it's not an elite quarterback, but he has to. You

765
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: know a lot of guys. Breeze has one Russell as one. Uh,

766
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Speaker 1: trying to think of some Roethlisberger technically, yeah, he's got two.

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Speaker 1: I think a fair goal for Mahomes in his career

768
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Speaker 1: would be three, Like I mean always arguably like the

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Speaker 1: third or fourth best quarterback. Everyone is too same with Manning.

770
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Speaker 1: So to me, if you get three, I think you

771
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Speaker 1: could go. Patrick Mahomes is like the better version of

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Speaker 1: Aaron n Aaron Rodgers has one, So I'd say the

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Speaker 1: goal would be three. I mean the goal is don't

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00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: win it every year, of course, but but yeah, I'd

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00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: say three is an attainable number. What sort of trade

776
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: compensation would it take for the Browns depart within the JOKU. Also,

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00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: the Hooper signing bad in that regard. I think in

778
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: the NFL you just try to sign good players. And

779
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: they got Austin Hooper for one million dollars or maybe

780
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: it was twenty two million dollars guaranteed just a numbers game.

781
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: The value there is too great. I think today it

782
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 1: was it came out someone tweeted, or maybe the Browns

783
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: said or released a statement like he's in their plans.

784
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: This this is not the NBA. Players don't dictate the terms.

785
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: Teams and coaches trade you when they want to trade you.

786
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: So if they like him, he'll stay. If they don't,

787
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: they'll trade him. Kind of sucks for him, but it doesn't.

788
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Speaker 1: I mean their offense should be really good. It's got

789
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry, Odell Beckham all the running backs like they

790
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: should be dynamic. Does the new Patrick Mahomes deal mean

791
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: that Chris Jones deaf he's getting traded? Will this mean

792
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will only be able to sign two and

793
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: a half three star players after Hill and Kelsey's contracts

794
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: are up. You know, I think there's so much up

795
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: in the air, true money, how much he's making per year,

796
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: how the cap goes up. Uh, you know, the the NFL,

797
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: even like Frank Clark, who I think got like sixty

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00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: million dollars, maybe it was seventy. It's technically like a

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Speaker 1: two and a half year contract, so you can finagle

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00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: and wiggle yourself out of contracts. The key is if

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00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes is sweet, he's gonna dominate and the team is

802
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna be really good. It's just that simple. Aaron Rodgers

803
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: made huge money for a decade, they built really good

804
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: teams around him, So it's just to me, the pressure

805
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: just on the homes to maintain being an elite player,

806
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: and they'll be fine. In the light of the potential

807
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: Redskins name change shot out to the Bulls Jordan documentary

808
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Dennis Rodman played college for Southeastern Oklahoma State Savages. Now

809
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: they are called the Savage Storm. Not the greatest name ever.

810
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: That's a good little, uh, good little nugget there. So

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Speaker 1: with all this outrage over politics, I see it pouring

812
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: over into the NFL. What's your take on all the

813
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter being placed on jerseys and changing names

814
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: of teams seems a little over the top for me.

815
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: I think there should be a separation between politics and sports.

816
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: Love the show, don't ever miss a pod. I don't

817
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: really know what the Black Lives Matter it's gonna be

818
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: in the In the NBA, they're gonna, I think, put

819
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: it on the court. I don't necessarily see that happening

820
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think they're clearly gonna allow the

821
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: players to kneel. It doesn't bother me. I get how

822
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: people are bothered. I no longer really get triggered over

823
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: political stuff, you know, when it comes to sports. I'm

824
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: just kind of numb to it. So I'm probably the

825
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: wrong person to ask because I don't get offended at

826
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Speaker 1: the offended, Like I'm not offended by the Redskins. My

827
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Speaker 1: simple take is I don't give a ship, and if

828
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Speaker 1: you do, I get it. I don't. I just that's fine.

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Speaker 1: If they want to change the name, cool, It doesn't

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00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: bother me one way or the other. I think the

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00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: Redskins are kind of irrelevant. If they want to change

832
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: it to the Washington Warriors or whatever, that's fine with me. Uh.

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00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: You know, if if a player is passionate about a cause,

834
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: like it doesn't really affect me. I I do think

835
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: it does impact people, though, And I don't think you're alone.

836
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Speaker 1: And I think the media struggles with that. A lot

837
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: of people that consume sports. And when I say consume,

838
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: if you watch, you're making them money because sports are

839
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: generated now off television ratings. I think the NBA is

840
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: a good example. If they got really really political the

841
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: last like five years, their ratings are in the tank.

842
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: And I also think one of their problems is they're

843
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: pretty big hypocrites. Like they're in bed with China and

844
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: Adam Silver. China is running concentration camps. I read an

845
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: article last week about the the racism that goes on

846
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: over there about the African community. It was it was

847
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: eye opening. The China government is bad, like really bad.

848
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about it until the NBA

849
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: scandal hit and I've just read some articles. It was

850
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: like Jesus and it's hard. So it's hard for me

851
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: to take the NBA seriously because I know, at the

852
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: end of the day, if you run a business, the

853
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: number one thing you care about is money. That's why

854
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't even take the NBA that seriously

855
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: talk about politics all the time. They care about money

856
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: more than anything. That's why they refuse to denounce China

857
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: because they love money. And it's really hard for me

858
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: to take businesses seriously when they get into politics. One

859
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: thing they care about first and foremost is money. If

860
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: you unless you run a charity, and you run a business,

861
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: the bottom line is about profit. It's why a lot

862
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: of businesses, like all the tech companies, love acting to

863
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: be quote unquote really progressive, like Mark Zuckerberg. You buy

864
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: out companies left and right. You don't give a shit.

865
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: You you you you can't even hardly pretend to. Now,

866
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: if a player wants to have an opinion like, that's fine.

867
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: Every person should have their own opinion. I'm a big

868
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: believer in think whatever you want to think. See, most

869
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: of the media does not believe that. Most of the

870
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: media wants you to think like they think, I got

871
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: no problem if you're really liberal, you're really conservative whatever.

872
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Like being woke is not being anti racism, being anti

873
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: racism just anti racism, right. But there is a level

874
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: in a line of just politically correct on just a

875
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: lot of issues that I just don't think a lot

876
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: of people care about. And I think it becomes a

877
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: really big deal on social media, and I think most

878
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: people in the real world are not consumed with it.

879
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Most people in the real world. And here's the problem

880
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: gonna be this fall. We're in the middle of a pandemic,

881
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: and we're in the middle of a recession. We've lost

882
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: forty million jobs over a three month period, historic amount

883
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: of lost workers in that period of time. And people

884
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: aren't gonna want to get lectured on how they're a

885
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: bad person. Because I was telling someone this weekend, I

886
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: think my generation I'm be five years old and younger. Again,

887
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that everyone is perfect and there are

888
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: areas in this country that are definitely bad, and there

889
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: are people that you know are racist. But I think

890
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: my generation is dramatically different than my parents generation when

891
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: it comes to skin color and tolerance. But I also

892
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: see a lot of frauds, like California Loves acting like

893
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: they're really progressive. Our richest neighborhoods that are quote unquote

894
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: the most liberal, refused to build low income housing. We

895
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: have historic amount of poverty here. No one does anything.

896
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: They drive right by the homeless people every day, don't

897
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: even look at it. They don't care. So I I

898
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: think there's a balance of real world stuff and then

899
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: what we hear from athletes about that stuff that impacts them.

900
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: Like I've said over and over, I've had issues over

901
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: the years where I've snapped just being immature, yelled at cops.

902
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: Not maybe yelled would be strong, but gotten like confrontations,

903
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: arguments when I got pulled over because I don't even

904
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: think about I'm just a white guy. And I had

905
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: an issue probably a month ago where I started arguing

906
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: with the cop. I was kind of a legally parked

907
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: and go into an a t M and I realized,

908
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: like God, I just argued with this guy. I was

909
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: in the wrong a lot of people. You know, it's

910
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: a big thing that black lives matter. From from my perception,

911
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: what they're fighting for is like they can't do that

912
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: because they might get shot. I didn't even think twice

913
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 1: that I would get shot, Like this ship is real,

914
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: Like it's not even arguable, and I don't even think

915
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: about that now. Luckily it was like happening in America.

916
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I kind of I almost apologized to the police officer

917
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: because I was in the wrong, and shit, if you

918
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: wanted to, he could have arrested me. Like it wasn't

919
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: that big a deal. I mean, I was just illegally parked.

920
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: But the way I acted like who the hell do

921
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: you think you are? And that's why people can't act

922
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: like that, like it's not even debatable at this point.

923
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: Now there are elements of like, you know what, My

924
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: issue with the political stuff in general, and I've said

925
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: this over and over and over again, is acting like

926
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: it's black and white, like, oh, just put Joe Biden

927
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: off as everything will change. No won't. That's not true

928
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: at all. Look at these progressive states. California is a

929
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: great example. Nothing changes. Who do you think we've created

930
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: historic poverty socio economically. Who do you think has been

931
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: impacted the most? So to think that everything just changes

932
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: when democrats get involved, that's not true. Here's my take.

933
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Neither side gives a ship. One side just as better

934
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: at pretending they do about poor people. And you know,

935
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: a lot of these movements and it becomes so big

936
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: on social media. We're luckily a lot of people in

937
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: real life, especially in the business community. And I know

938
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of you guys that listen to our businessmen.

939
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Uh know, we have some women, but majority of the

940
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: listeners or men know just how fraudulent everything is. And

941
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: I think social media has become a place where everyone

942
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: can just get up on their moral high horse and

943
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: say things. And they don't live their life like that.

944
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: So it's just I I do understand where sports fans,

945
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: I guess a long winded way, just don't want to

946
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: see it with their you know, with sports. But the

947
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: reality is in two thousand and twenty, it's going to

948
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: be part of it. I do think the messenger matters.

949
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: It's it's a huge problem for the NBA, Like you

950
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: can't be in beddle with China and then get and

951
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: then lecture me on how to live my life. You know,

952
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: but if you get up from a point of you're

953
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: just a really good guy and you you have a

954
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: spotless track record, I I do think it resonates more

955
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: with people. It just does. Like Lebron James has created

956
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: a school, He's done a lot of good things. He

957
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: refused refused to budge from China. Why because the majority

958
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: of his cash comes from China. And I think that

959
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: rubs people the wrong way. And I think that my

960
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: whole thing is like people are allowed to be offended

961
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: by that. Like I'm a big believer in diversity of thought.

962
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: People should not all be thinking the same. Now again,

963
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: you're asking someone that's just not offended by anything, you know.

964
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: Uh And when I mean that, like like the Washington

965
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Redskins if they want to change the name, change his name, Okay,

966
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: it just doesn't even mean anything to me. Not that

967
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: I just I just don't even care. I don't have

968
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: the energy. What I've realized my older years is I

969
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy to be triggered and offended

970
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: by everything. I'm too busy trying to make money for

971
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: my partners, trying to gain new sponsors, trying to produce content,

972
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: trying to expand business wise. You know, have a have

973
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: a personal life, a dating life, play golf, be happy.

974
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how the media is so miserable, and

975
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you because most of them just aren't that

976
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: great at their job. Uh, They're just miserable people in

977
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: general that they don't even I don't think a lot

978
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: of them like their job that much. Like I'm lucky.

979
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: I like my job. I hate being miserable and I

980
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: the one thing is like, you want to change these

981
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: teams names? Do it? But I can't pretend like I'm

982
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: not triggered or offended by it. But I get why

983
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: people might want to change overall though, keep it, change

984
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: it whatever. Fan from Ireland love the pot. Sorry for

985
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: the long question, hot take. Want to see if you

986
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: agree Hoodie is the undisputed best coach of all time,

987
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: but I think we finally discovered that he has a

988
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: bottom ten GM going to disagree there. He's had very

989
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: shoes standout draft picks in recent years, and rarely as

990
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: good draft classes in general. His solo focus on only

991
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: signing football guys a free agents had left his team

992
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: un athletic, causing the a b desperation. Is it fair

993
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: to say that he has had to rely on his

994
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: coaching ability to keep the dynasty going? If he had

995
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsome or or Howie Roseman, would he have won ten?

996
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: Thanks keep the pods coming. I don't think it's fair

997
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: to say that the NFL is so hard to win

998
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: in general. Uh. He has drafted a lot of good players.

999
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: Just look at the last decade. Obviously Hernandez turned out

1000
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: to be a murderer, but that was a really good pick.

1001
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: Gronkowski is a Hall of Famer. He's drafted Logan Mankins,

1002
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour, Devin mccordy, High Tower. He drafted Jamie Collins Thuney. Uh,

1003
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to think. You know, Jimmy Garoblo

1004
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: Jacoby were set like that. Edit him a second and

1005
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: third round pick for trading those guys, and he used him.

1006
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, he signed Chris Hogan like he makes good moves.

1007
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: He signed Stefan Gilmore like that. They've been in nine

1008
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowls in two decades. That is incredible. I don't

1009
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: know if they would have been able to go to more,

1010
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: just because they would have had a quote unquote GM.

1011
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: I I really don't. The year I started watching football,

1012
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: Jabil Jabril Peppers went off at Michigan, but his NFL

1013
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: career is kind of underwhelming. You think he'll turn into

1014
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl safety that many of us thought he

1015
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: would be or is he headed toward a mediocre NFL career? Uh?

1016
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Full disclosure, I haven't really studied him. I think one

1017
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: problem when you get a guy like him, he's not

1018
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: a true player in space, so you need him in

1019
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: the box. Well, there's never been less impactful safeties now

1020
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: in the box because the game is played spread and

1021
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: in space. So I just think the game is not

1022
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't benefit his skill set like to

1023
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: be a huge impact player. Like if you put Cam

1024
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: Chancellor in two thousand twenty, he would not be the

1025
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: Camp Chancellor that we saw in two thousand two up

1026
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: to then thirteen. There's just more space, uh, I'm I

1027
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: mean just more ability to lay with wood and hit.

1028
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: And I think it's a problem for any quote unquote

1029
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: box safety at I think it's ultimately Jamal Adams undoing.

1030
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: If he could do both at an elite level, he's

1031
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: an elite player in the box. Is the elite player

1032
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: in space now. If he was, I think he'd be

1033
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: viewed as like Ed Reid and every team in the

1034
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: league would want to be trading for him. Right now,

1035
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: that's not the way he's viewed. He's a great run stuffer,

1036
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: He's a great blitzer. I pay my dbs to cover

1037
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: and pick the ball off, and I think I think

1038
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: that's at the end of the day. Jabrill Pepper's downfall

1039
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: isn't me or are people sleeping on Sean McVeigh that

1040
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: he's reached the playoffs his first two seasons and last

1041
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: season was down year. Is there any chance he becomes

1042
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: the league the best coach in the league post Belichick?

1043
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: I would say it's gonna be a little challenging because

1044
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's now equipped to dominate. If Belichick were to retire,

1045
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's not going anywhere. Kyle Shanahan's team is much

1046
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 1: more complete. Kyle Shanahan also benefits from having Parag Marathe,

1047
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: who is a cap wizard. Less Sneed and Kevin Diamoff

1048
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: are awful at the cap. It's why the l A

1049
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: Rams constantly signed terrible contracts and are in cap hell

1050
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: all the time. So part of being a good coach,

1051
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: you do need a good cap manager and slash GM,

1052
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: and I'd say Sean McVeigh does not have that. And

1053
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: he has that Sean uh excuse me, Sean Payton has that. Uh.

1054
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's had that with John Schneider. I think that's

1055
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's kind of downfall right now. Now. Is he

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Speaker 1: an excellent coach? Hell? Yeah, he's in his mid thirties.

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Speaker 1: His worst year so far as the head coach is

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Speaker 1: nine and seven, and if he would have had that

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Speaker 1: year this upcoming year, he would have made the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So I'm a big believer in Sean McVeigh. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a really impressive guy. I'd like to be friends.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to drink beers with him. I love to

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Speaker 1: talk football. I think he's gonna be an elite coach

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Speaker 1: for a long time now. Can he be quote unquote

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Speaker 1: the best coach in the NFL? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he can do that with less sneed and whoever he

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Speaker 1: has running his cap, whether that's Kevin dimof or whoever

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Speaker 1: they have, because right now they're just they've blown way

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Speaker 1: too many things for even Belichick wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: overcome it and tying yourself to Jared Goff. I'm a

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Speaker 1: big Jared Goff fan, but he's pretty you know, dependent

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Speaker 1: on his offensive line, and right now their offensive line

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Speaker 1: is atrocious. So they're in a division with the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners who have a big time defensive line. You got

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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. Seattle always just finds ways to mess with you. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just gonna be a challenge. Appreciate everyone

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Speaker 1: listening and uh again, subscribe to the podcast, leave a review.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone doing that. Have a great week, and

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you a little later. Pooce