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Speaker 1: I know I did so. Look some of y'all may

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Speaker 1: I was definitely gobbling meat, bless wings, non dairy macaroni

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Speaker 1: Sto making you know, stop making those faces. And I

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Speaker 1: it was nice to have a break because you all

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Speaker 1: this episode being thankful for where I am in my life,

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Speaker 1: who I am. I have this wonderful fan base called

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Speaker 1: my rain Drops, as you all are, but I also

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Speaker 1: know that some of you all don't know much about

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Speaker 1: me besides what you read on the Internet. And baby,

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Speaker 1: don't believe that shit. Stay away from the world Wide

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Speaker 1: Web please, but no all jokes aside. I am calling

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Speaker 1: this episode May King Carlos. You get it, Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: May King, Carlos, Yes, clever, yes, Okay, on the strength

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter. I am so thankful for that acknowledgment because, look,

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Speaker 1: I have been producing reality TV for fifteen years, and

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Speaker 1: very hard on prayerful So when you get the acknowledgement

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Speaker 1: So before Nini Leaks, Vicky Gomvason and Ramona Singer, there

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Speaker 1: my mom. Yes, my mother's name is Gail King. How

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Speaker 1: these quick as. This is reality with the King, and

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Speaker 1: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. So

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Speaker 1: call me General Electric, because bitch, I'm shining bright. Thank

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