WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: London Calling 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.000 I Get everybody. I'm Dan Horden. This is the Bengals 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:13.680 Booth podcast, the London Calling addition, as the Bengals travel 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:17.120 across the Atlantic Ocean to face the La Rams at 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.400 Wembley Stadium. Coming up, I'll be joined by my broadcast 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.000 partner Dave Lapham to discuss the hot button topics right 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.680 now for Bengals fans, including the trade deadline, the Cordy 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.120 Glenn situation, and what if anything, the Bengals can do 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.720 to generate a running game. My locker room conversation this 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.400 week is with punter Kevin Huber, who had one of 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.120 the best games of his eleven year NFL career last week. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:48.120 We'll discuss that and if my recent induction into the 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.080 UC Athletics Hall of Fame as a broadcaster has ruined 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.720 it for guys like him who earned their way in 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.000 with great athletic achievement. And in this week's No The 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.080 Faux segment, we'll get the load down on the Rams 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.040 from Gary Klein, who covers the team for the La Times. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.560 All of that is straight ahead, but first, here's a 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.520 quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.360 this podcast delivered right to your phone tablet or computer 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:20.800 by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:26.679 It's the greatest thing since sleeper seats on an airplane. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.959 When the Bengals travel to London, many of the players 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.240 will have sleeper seats, the so called bed in the 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.559 sky where they can fully recline and get a good 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.600 night's sleep in order to hit the ground running. When 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.360 the team arrives at six thirty five in the morning 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.600 London time, that's still one thirty five at night back 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.480 in Cincinnati. The time change makes for a challenging trip, 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.639 but hopefully the players will be rested and ready thanks 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.440 to those sleeper seats. Now let's get to my conversation 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.680 with Dave Lapham, and we start in a familiar place. 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:06.400 The Bengals struggling running game last week against Jacksonville. Joe 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:10.680 Mixon had ten carries for two yards and Giovanni Bernard 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:15.560 had four carries for zero. Surely they can do and 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.359 must do better, But how lap The Bengals are on 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.240 a pace to rush for eight hundred and fifty yards 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.640 this year. The lowest total in team history is ninety 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.640 nine back in nineteen eighty two, and that was a 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:31.800 strike season, when the Bengals only played nine games, what 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.600 would be the first couple of things you would try 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.920 to get something going in the ground game. It is 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:43.440 really quandry, a nightmare because let's let's just take the 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:47.799 last football game Jacksonville. Watching some of that again, and 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.639 the point of attack looks pretty good. Don't block the 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.359 backside linebacker, you know he he's not cut off, crushes 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:59.720 the play. Later front side's crushed. They have no opportunity 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.320 at the lay and later a tight end misses his block. 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.720 You know, it's it's equal opportunity participation. It is the 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.200 damndest thing I've ever seen in terms of they can't 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.200 come up with a clean snap. You know, everybody involved, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.600 five offensive lineman, if there's tight end involved him, you know, 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.560 wide receivers in the perimeter, every single person. I'd just 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.240 like to see a handful of plays during the course 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.720 of a game where every single person that has a 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.760 responsibility fulfills the responsibility. It has to be driving the 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:36.400 coach is crazy because there are you know, if the 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.240 play starts, you look at it, Oh got a shot, 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:43.920 Oh no shot. Somebody totally misses, whiffs, goes the wrong way. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.720 They had people going the wrong way halfway through the season. 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.240 That is inexcusable. The season is almost half over and 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.400 you got guys going the wrong way, whether it be 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.480 a running back, whether it be an offensive lineman, whatever 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.000 the case may be. Can't have it, can't have that 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.880 kind of stuff. Now you start to think, is the 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.400 focused starting to slip? You know, is that part of 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.680 its starting to go away? You know, the old woe 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.400 is me kind of thing. You just you just can't 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.920 can't have it. But uh, you know again, they're they're 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:15.320 trying to find their identity, struggling, and honestly, I really 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.640 don't know what it can be, what it is, I 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.000 have no clue myself. I really don't know. And that's 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.560 a that's a scary thing because right now they've rushed 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.159 for three hundred and seventy two yards and they've given 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.240 up thirteen hundred and twenty three. They've been out rushed 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.120 by nine hundred and fifty one yards in seven games. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.440 That's an average of one hundred and thirty six yards 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.040 a game. They've been out rushed by a football field 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.560 and a quarter plus almost a football field and a half. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.880 That is nuts. So they're averaging three point nine two 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.840 point nine one am I talking about two point ninety 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.039 carry the opposition five point two minus two point three 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.720 is Nutso basically, when the opponent carries the ball twice, 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:55.080 they have a first down. When the Bengals carry three times, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.760 they don't have a first down. You can't win football 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.279 games that way. You just can't do it. I don't 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.400 care if you got Vince Lombardi, Don Shula, Bill Walsh, 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.919 you have a staff of Hall of famers, man, you 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.680 just can't. You can't win games that way. Lap The 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.920 news broke Tuesday that the Falcons were trading former Bengals 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.239 wide receiver Mohammed Sanu to the Patriots for a second 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.760 round pick. Last week, Jacksonville got two number ones and 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.040 a number four for Jalen Ramsey. The trade deadline is 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.600 coming up next Tuesday. Do you think teams are reaching 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.840 out to the Bengals about possible trades. I think they 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.000 probably have made phone calls. That wouldn't shock me at all. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.279 Bill Belichick and Mike Brown have a great relationship. I 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.000 would be stunned if Bill Belichick did not call just 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.919 to see if AJ Green might be available, depending on 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.799 what Mike Brown wanted, but aj and Sneuer same same age, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.760 and they got a number two from Mohammed Sanu. The 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.919 thing is, Mohammed Sanu hasn't been hurt recently AJ Green. 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.880 So there's the question of you know, it's it's not 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:59.800 necessarily age. It's like, oh, Willie be available, you know, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.920 to health concerns. He's also signed for one more year. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:07.159 That helps, Yeah, definitely helps, definitely helps. So you know, 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.200 look at what they got for Jalen Ramsey. I mean 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.960 a Hall two, number ones and a number four. So 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:16.360 I'm sure I don't think, you know, if Bill Belichick 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.800 did talk to Mike Brown, I'm not sure it even 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.800 gets to the point of, you know, what round picks. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:26.000 I think Mike probably politely said Bill, appreciate the interest, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.200 but now we're keeping AJ Green. He's our guy. We're 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.559 going to keep AJ Green. We want him for years 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.040 to come, and that sort of thing. But I'm sure 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.000 I'm sure teams are called. I'm sure teams are called 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:41.400 about AJ Green, about Geno Adkins, you know, potentially Carlos Dunlap. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.279 Carlos Dunlap a couple of weeks to go in the 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.559 locker room made it sound like he knew that people 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.880 were calling, so his agent must have told him. He 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.880 must have found out from teams that they have reached 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.320 out to the Cincinnati Bengals and inquired about Carlos Dunlap 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.240 for him to say that to the media, Oh, it's 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.400 a business. I know, it's a business. I'm sure they've 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.839 called about you know, they probably have called about me. 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.480 So he's heard something and that's not a shock. Um, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.200 those kind of calls happen all the time. But I 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.520 just don't think, Um, you know, the Bengals will will 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.320 be in the market, and I think if they weren't 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.160 in the market, it might be tough to strike a 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.720 deal because, let's face it, when they give their players 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.600 second and third bites to the Apple, it's significant money. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.800 And a lot of people here in bengaland think that 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.679 the Bengals overvalue their veteran players. They think their guys 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.520 are better than than other people think they are. So 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.640 if that's the case, they probably asking way more than 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.200 other people are willing to offer. And you know, it's 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:38.880 it's tough to make deals at that point. But that 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.240 Muhammed's a new deal is very interesting. I Mean, Patriots 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.320 needed them and they gave up some value. I think. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.640 I think that's a good deal for for Atlanta to 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.480 get a second round pick. Now it'll basically be a 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.560 third you know, New England second. It's like early three. Um, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.640 it's going to be so late after they win another 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.200 super Bowl probably, but still that's that's a decent pick 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.840 from Mohammed Sanu. The Bears are three and three. Mitchell 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.040 Trubisky is averaging the fewest passing yards per game of 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:11.320 any full time quarterback. I think there's any chance the 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:15.080 Bears reach out about Andy Dalton. They might, Yeah, I 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.720 bet they reach out about you know, a few quarterbacks, 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:23.680 and they may. They may realize that historically, again, the 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:28.760 Bengals don't move players, particularly a quarterback, so they may 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.840 reach out elsewhere. And there's going to be other quarterbacks 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.880 around the league that probably fall into the same category. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:40.000 I mean, Aaron Rodgers, the performance he put on last 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.600 week is like that's that's basically what you think Aaron 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.760 Rodgers might be able to do any given week. He's 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.560 about the only guy in the league. You know, maybe 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.040 maybe one other you know, maybe Mahomes can do that 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.760 kind of thing, but there's there's no more than three 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.800 of them walking the streets, so everybody else kind of 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.920 falls into a category where they need a lot of 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.800 support to put up, you know, significant numbers in the 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.480 league for sure. Lapt the Bengals and seven start has 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.240 the doomsayers talking about the nineteen nineties when things obviously 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.440 did not go well. But I want to go back 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.839 to our first five years together in the Booth two 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.480 eleven to two fifteen, when the Bengals went to the 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.920 playoffs every year, and the reason why they did that, 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:24.200 or probably the biggest reason, was that from two thousand 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.960 and nine to twenty fourteen, they had six straight excellent 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:32.520 drafts with at least three really good players every year. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.120 In two twelve, they drafted five really good ones and 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.719 signed Vontz Berfect as an undrafted free agent. The two 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.400 fifteen draft was a disaster. CJ. Zama is the only 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.959 guy left. The last five drafts really haven't been home runs. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.280 Injuries have been a factor. I guess my question is 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.240 what happened? Why did they go from drafting so well 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.480 to not doing nearly as well. Yeah, that's that's a 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.760 great question, and I think I think it's just like 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.880 like anything, if you as an organization let's face it, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.079 the Bengals theory, and there are other teams in the 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.000 league that do. At Seattle, you can name off a 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.200 bunch of teams. They build through the draft and they're 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.920 gonna they're gonna draft develop pertain. That's their mantra. And 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.199 when you do that, when you live by their draft, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:23.040 you die by the draft. And they put their release 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.760 every week. How many players the Bengals of draft that 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:29.760 are still in the league, and it's like second usually, no, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.400 no worse than third, but it's usually in the top three. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.679 So but that's still going back to those drafts where 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.520 they had those consecutive you know, put the bat on 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.840 the ball regularly, and some of those guys are still 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.080 in the league. That shows you how good they were 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.120 in selecting in those particular drafts the last few year. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.960 Talking about I'd like to see how many guys are 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.040 still in the league, you know, I bet the numbers 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:56.560 are down. And if you're not going to supplement it 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:01.040 with you know, serious free agency intent or trades or whatever. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:05.680 And your philosophy is draft developer tain, you are You're 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:10.040 you're basically putting all your eggs in that one phase 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:14.199 of building a roster. And when you have a situation 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.680 like they had we've talked about with Setrica Boy and Fisher, 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.000 set you back. I mean the left that left tackle 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:24.520 position is again a microcosm of what's what's happened those 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.160 two don't pan out. Um, we saw stetric away with 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.800 the Jaguars and Fishers out of the game. Um. And 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:35.440 and then trade for Corty Glenn and look what's going 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.880 on with the Corty Glenn fiasco. So that left tackle 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:45.200 iss got, you know, like a black cloud hanging over it. Uh. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.880 And then and then you try to address it with 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.800 the eleventh pick in the draft, and Jonah Williams rips 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:56.480 or a rotator or a labor terraces labor before training 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:01.280 camp even starts. So man, you're you're you even try 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.160 to trade to solve that. You drafted three different guys 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.800 and Jonah william School still out. I'm not saying Jona 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:09.800 Williams isn't going to be a great player for a decade, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.520 but this year they didn't won a football game, and 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.120 he's not responsible for any of it, but they were 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.240 hoping that he'd be at that left tackle position solidifying it. 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:23.800 So yeah, it's you there's a lot of pressure to 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.360 put your bat on the balls at a high, high percentage, 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.200 high high ratio. If that's the way, that's the only 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.000 way that you've decided you're going to try to build 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.440 your franchise. Part of that Cordy Glenn trade was moving 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.839 backward in the first round. The Bengals had the number 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.280 twelve pick. They went backward to select a Billy Price. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.280 And when you look at some of the guys they 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.160 could have had at number twelve, Derwin James was the 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.640 seventeenth pick in that draft. Layton vander ashe was the 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.240 nineteenth pick in the draft. I remember how much the 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.160 Bengals loved him going into that draft. Imagine what either 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.800 of those guys would be doing for the Bengals. D Yeah, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.920 you can. You can go back historically, you know, um 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.360 on a lot of drafts and say that the what 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.439 ifs and uh, you know, I was just thinking the 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.959 other day when I was watching Lamar Jackson just tooled 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:18.120 the Seattle Seahawks like he tooled the Bengals. I mean, 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.600 Ozzie Knewsom said, enough, this guy's the first round pick. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.040 Can't let this guy slide out of the first round. 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.679 He's the first round talent athletically, Ozzie Knewsom said, now, 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.800 I'm going to be the one. I mean, he went 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:31.319 all the way to the end of the end of 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.439 the draft in that first round. I bet there's a 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.400 lot of franchises in the NFL right now they're saying, man, 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.160 but the thing that they decided to do is a 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.640 franchise is We're not going to try to fit him 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.120 into something that doesn't work. We are going to say 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.040 what he did at Louisville, we're implementing here and we're 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.080 we're going that way. We're making sure that we set 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.120 him up to succeed, not to fail. And that's just 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.760 a great organizational you know, decision on many levels by 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.120 the Baltimore Ravens. And you know sometimes when you when 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:06.800 you start drafting specifically for need and you're trying to say, 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.920 can that guy translate from what he's doing in college 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.480 to what we're doing here with our scheme it's similar, 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.080 but could he translate the better way to go as 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.520 the way Baltimore and others are doing now Arizona's you know, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.320 take what that guy did so well in college and 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.720 implemented in the National Football league. That's why these young 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.360 quarterbacks are succeeding. Instead of trying to put a square 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.760 peg in a round hole, They've got the same shapes 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.920 and these these young guys are fitting a lot better 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.000 and a lot more quickly. Getting back to Corty Glenn, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.800 is there a way out of this mess? Man? You know, 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.520 if I'm a player in that locker room, that's a 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:46.520 that's a totally unnecessary distraction. And you know, if everything 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:50.120 to happen rumored to be happened have happened last week, 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.320 did um my understanding is he when he went out 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.760 to practice, he didn't he didn't really feel like he 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.240 should be going out to practice. But this independent doctor 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.280 in pitts Berg said that you're cleared. So they said 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:03.760 you got to go out there. And he went out 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.640 there and Jim Turner said, and hit the two men 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:07.960 Slett He put two hands on and walked away, and 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.480 you know, of course that started a beef. And then 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.200 after practice on Wednesday, he went home, didn't hang around, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.360 go to the meetings, goes home and basically says, you know, 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.560 you know, to a coach, Taylor just cut me. And 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:22.800 of course you had just cut me. I'm gonna collect 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.440 my ten eleven million and not have to do anything 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.280 for it. They're not going to do that. Then he 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.280 doesn't come the next day, so he's he's suspended. And 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.800 I wonder if suspended with pay or suspended without pay. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.240 It's all defined by the collective Bargaining Agreement. But and 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 when you have any questions like, oh, just get rid 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.040 of them, well you get just get rid of them. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:43.240 I mean there's a salary cap concerned. That's a salary 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:48.440 cap hit of not seven figures eight figures, eight figure 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.240 hit to your cap. And so now you're trying to 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.080 figure out what the collective bargain agreement, what are the steps? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.080 If there are five steps, you can't go from one 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.120 to five. You have to go one two throughout. You know, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:01.040 can't go one to three. I mean you have to 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.080 take it step by step in this process. So I'm 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.800 not familiar enough with the collector Bargain Agreement to see 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.920 if there are any things you can do to protect 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.840 yourself as an organization or you know, in what Cordy 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.200 Glenn can do on his behalf of the union as 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.320 a player. But right now, the thing's a mess. It 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.040 is just a country hot mess, and I don't know 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:22.920 how it's gonna I don't know how it's gonna unfold 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:27.160 and unstore. But if I'm a teammate, and honestly, you know, 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.920 when I watch the interaction between Cordy and his teammates, 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.240 there is none there is none zero. So it's a 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.920 you know, I think they decided the best thing to 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.840 do is suspend them or you know, try to separate 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.080 them from from the locker room, because it's not it's 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.720 not an easy situation, and players are going to sympathize 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:50.359 to some extent because CTE and you know, all concussions 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:54.800 are different. But Alex Erickson, he has a concussion. A 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.440 few days later, he's catching four balls in the in 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.520 the in the second quarter for ninety three yards and 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.159 he's got you know, eight catches one hundred and thirty 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.000 seven during the course of the game. And I'm not 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.200 saying that his concussion is the same as Quartery Glens. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.200 I'm not trying to say that at all. They're all different, 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.960 but I mean, you talk about North and South Pole, 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.359 that's a pretty good example right there. The team is 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.679 off to London as the Bengals take on the defending 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.520 NFC champion rams LA snapped to three game losing streak 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.320 last Sunday, hammering the Falcons thirty seven to ten. Give 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.200 me a scenario for the Bengals pulling off the shocker 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.440 in London. Well, the easiest thing to think of is 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.960 the Rams have to help. The Rams have to self destruct. 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:41.439 The Rams have to turn the ball over. The Bengals 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.200 went minus four last week and lost a game that 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.639 they had a ten to nine lead going into the 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:50.399 fourth quarter, and have you know, three interceptions in the 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.280 fourth quarter. They had a fumble I think in the third, 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.240 but three interceptions in the four so you have a 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.159 you have a three turnover quarter. That's the kind of 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:59.520 thing the Rams are going to have to help with. 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.920 Be at fumble, be an interception, be a you know, 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:05.440 some sort of misq like that. And the Bengals have 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.240 to play a very clean game in that regard, because 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.639 you know, looking at them right now, at fifteen giveaways, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.399 thirty first in the league. They're minus nine, that's thirtieth 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.320 in the league. The flip, the script is gonna have 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.320 to flip for the Bengals to compete with the Rams. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.680 The Rams are gonna have to be the generous ones, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.400 and the Bengals are gonna have to be the selfish 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.560 ones taking all those those extra possessions. And I think 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.879 that the red zone defense has to stay the way 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.440 it's been playing. I mean that they're doing a really 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.560 good job in the red zone. They find themselves fourth 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:39.280 in the NFL now red zone touchdown percentage allowed. They 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:43.280 have two teams the Bengals are played, Arizona and Jacksonville 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.040 both went one touchdown and six opportunities in the red zone. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.320 They did it twice two touchdowns in twelve red zone possessions. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.639 I mean, you look at it. The Bengals defense has 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.840 been in the red zone twenty seven times, thirtieth in 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.160 the league. They've only a lot of eleven touchdowns, tied 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.160 for eighth in the league. So they have really when 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:03.040 the field's compressed, I don't have to worry about the 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.760 ball going over their head, and the tricks and the 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.840 gadget and the misdirection is less of an issue. Because 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.440 the fields so compressed, they played pretty good. They play 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.600 a lot better defense. The other thing that has to 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.959 continue to happen if the Bengals do turn it over 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:22.760 on the Bengals fifteen giveaways, the defenses allowed five field 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.639 goals fifteen points. That's unbelievablely good. I mean, that's that 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:28.960 might be the best in the league. And one of 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:30.760 the one of the turnovers, it was a pick six, 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:32.040 so they had nothing to do with any of it. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.160 So say fourteen of the turnovers, fourteen turnovers they've allowed 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:40.879 fifteen points. Still pretty pretty damn strong. And if they 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.680 if they continue to you know, play complimentary football that way, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.080 if the Bengals do have a mistake and they you know, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.919 don't let it turn into a big mistake, then they 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.280 have a chance. They have a chance. Lap The Rams 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.840 are averaging twenty seven points a game, tied for seventh 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.359 in the NFL, so they're not exactly struggling, but it 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.760 is down a little bit from thirty two points last year. 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:01.760 And on they scored three points in the Super Bowl 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.600 laws to the Patriots. To what extent has the league 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.520 caught up to the Rams offense? I think there's probably 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.200 something to that. Defensive coordinators, you give them, you know, 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.200 an opportunity, they're going to figure out a way to 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.680 defend things. I think the other part of it is 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:20.280 forty percent of the offensive lines, New Sullivan, their center retired. Uh, 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.920 they're left guard left in free agency and they have 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.560 a new guy at the left guard position, Stafford or 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.320 I think it was Stafford, the big left guard left 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:30.879 in free agency. So uh, you know that's that's a 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.959 that's a factor. You see how new pieces can can 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.480 take take a while. And girly's not the girly of old. 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.159 They say that that knee has had some sort of 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.520 a degeneration, whatever it is. So they're not they're not 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.760 clicking with all the cylinders and the engine that they 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.840 were clicking with when they were. You know, executing is 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.320 such a high level, so I think the execution slips some. 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.919 I think defensive coordinators have caught up some. And uh, 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.640 I think the combination of it is is what you're 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.320 talking about. They win their first three games three and oh, 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.280 and then they lose three in a row. So the 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.479 model of inconsistency there. But they did win. I mean 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.240 Tampa Bay hung fifty five points on them. I can't 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:14.480 fathom that with Aaron Donald and following those guys, how 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.080 they held. Did Jamis Winston hang fifty five on them? 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.399 That's that's remarkable to me. They scored over forty you know, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.520