1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson. 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling. Railvalry. No, no, sibling, 4 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: don't do that with your mouth, revelry. That's good. Hi. 5 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: It was your birthday, was my birthday and you went 6 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: out four forty four years old. We you know, I 7 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: bought a thirty three foot trailer and this was the 8 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: maiden voyage and we went to this it's called Bogan 9 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Flats and had my birthday and it was really really 10 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: fun fun. I know, it was great. The kids had fun. 11 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: We camped with another family there, so the kids got 12 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: to hang and we swam in the in the in 13 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: the river, and yeah, the whole experience is just so 14 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: much fun. Good. It's what I'm gonna do from now on. 15 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm just leaving. Isn't it like a million degrees where 16 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: you are right now? Oh? Yeah, it's it's crazy hot. 17 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: And then it snowed here on September eighth. How about that? 18 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: But I almost died the other day on my mountain bike. 19 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: You mean, after I told you to be careful. Yeah, 20 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: that day. It's so funny. I knew it not because 21 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: of a fall a fall, but it was so hot 22 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and I got dizzy and had to like go under 23 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: a tree and rest, and then I was like got 24 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: nervous because I was like, oh, I can't get my 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: heart rate down. And then I finally was able to, 26 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: but I had that moment of panic, you know, and 27 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: it's like I'm going to die up here. Oliver like, relax, 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: You're not gonna die. Just take some deep breaths. But 29 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: I can't cool down. I can't cool down. This is 30 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: the conversation I'm having with myself, and all the while 31 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: my adrenaline is spiking and then it's making everything worse. 32 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: So you had a panic attack and like one hundred 33 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: degree heat on a mountain where no one was around. Well, 34 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: let me just set this up for everyone listening. I 35 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: was on the phone with Oliver. We were facetiming, and 36 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: he was up and it was weird because it was 37 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: sort of flat, kind of plateauy land. He's like, yeah, 38 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm and I go for a ride and it was 39 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: really quiet and I could kind of see, you know, 40 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: when you're facetiming someone. I could see the back I 41 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: could see that, like there was nothing around. There was 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: no other cars, and Olie was going I found this spot. 43 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I was just driving and 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: I found the spot. I'm gonna go for a ride. 45 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, don't die because I don't know what 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: this is. There's nobody around. It's not like there's going 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: to be anybody on the trail. Yeah, you know me, 48 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty psychic. I felt weird. I was like, 49 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: this is not great. I don't like the way this feels. Well, 50 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: I thought of you when I was dying under the tree. 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean I was like, yeah, well, I was like, 52 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: fucking gate knew, I know you when you would have died, 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: thinking God, I'm so mad that she was right. Oh god, 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: how did she know? Oh man, Well, everything's good here. 55 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: It's the same, same kids are. The schooling is actually 56 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: better than I thought I was going to be. I 57 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: feel like, you know what, I figured it out. I 58 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: couldn't agree more. It's like weirdly good. I mean not. 59 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: I would much rather the kids be in school, especially 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: for Wilder. I was going into seventh grade. He was 61 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: very excited to go with his friend to Sea Rider. 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: Everyone being is there one's there and he was pumped, 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, and you know it didn't happen. But when 64 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: we go to hybrid maybe if it's like a hybrid, 65 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: they do a hybrid sort of. Yeah, but you're right, 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: the remote learning isn't so bad. Yeah, I think that, 67 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think as long as here's one thing 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: I was saying. I heard this story about a teacher 69 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: who said the teacher said, uh that she was trying 70 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: to teach Norbouys videos were off, and it was this 71 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: really sad thing of this teacher and like none of 72 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: the kids were engaged, you know when you get older 73 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: in high school. Yeah, And I was like, well, wait, 74 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: hold on, if I was a teacher, if your video 75 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: is not on, you're you're going to fail the class. Yeah, 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I mean that that should immediately be like, yes, you 77 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: need to set up your zoom so that you can 78 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: be accountable to being attentive. Right, so at least the 79 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: teacher can gallery view the class and make sure that 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: you know, because that's what you would be doing in 81 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the classroom anyway, you'd be you know, calling out you know, John, John, 82 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: is there something more interesting? You know, I know, you 83 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: should not be able to turn your cameras off. They're not. 84 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm shouting off to all teachers that should be just 85 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: like the very first rule of thumb. It's like, no, 86 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: we don't do. My thing is with Wilder is that 87 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: you know. I'm trusting him, right, I'm trying to put 88 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: trust into him. So far, so good. But he goes 89 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: into the room, which is your room, actually your childhood 90 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: room here at the guest house and that's where he 91 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: works from. And then he just started because and I 92 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: poked my head in and I'm like, hey, but like 93 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: everything good? Are you are you doing anything in here? 94 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: And he's like that, like, can you just leave? Like 95 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: you're on camera? You know. I'm like, I know, but 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: are you what are you doing? Are you fucking around 97 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: in here? Or I guess I just trust that you're listening. 98 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: You know. I love messing. I love messing with the 99 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: kids in their classes. By the way, so funny. Yeah, anyway, 100 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: so well, happy birthday brother, Thank you forty four? You know, yeah, 101 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: oh she did. I didn't see anything. I've been off 102 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: the grid. I'm saying you a very sweet song on Instagram. 103 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I gotta see it, and I responded, I responded, and 104 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: what did you say you should just look first look 105 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: at mind me. Okay, first look at my post, and 106 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: then you can look at Okay, I want to say 107 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: one thing about about my birthday and then we can 108 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: talk about our guests coming up. But you know, I'm 109 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: forty four years old and I've never felt age. It 110 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: never mattered to me much and it still doesn't. But 111 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: I think when I'm fifty. I think when I'm starting 112 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: to hit around fifty, it's gonna I might have like 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a problem with it, you know, maybe not already. If 114 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: you're already thinking about it, then then it's probably gonna 115 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: happen like sooner than fifty now, because I just keep turning, 116 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just keep getting older every year. And 117 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm forty three, forty four, and I never really think 118 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean, It's just another day. 119 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not a birthday guy. But I feel like when 120 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm when I'm approaching fifty, I'm like, oh my god, 121 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: I need to read the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, 122 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: you know what. You know what I think. I think 123 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: that no matter what decade you hit, that you're always 124 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: going If you think about age like that, that when 125 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: you're sixty, You're going to go, why did I do that? 126 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: I was fifty, right, you're seventy, you're going to go, 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: why did I go there when I was sixty? I think, 128 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, And and then I think you're right. I 129 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: think you should read that book. I think it's like 130 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: it's like, honestly, I don't mean to like bring this down, 131 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: but I'll let why not, let's bring this down just 132 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: to bring it back, because that's what life is. Ye, 133 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: We're all going to die. Yeah, yes, that's where I 134 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: was going. And you know, the thing is is that 135 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: we are in the middle of experiencing so much death. 136 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: I've lost many friends and I know that lately I 137 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. And then COVID I know 138 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: so many people who are losing people, and you know, 139 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: it feels like it's this crazy thing. It just feels 140 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: like one piece of news you don't want to hear 141 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: after another another friend just got diagnosed with lung cancer 142 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: and we're going to you know, getting through it, we're 143 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: going to fight it and all that. But it just 144 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: almost feels like it just comes at you so like 145 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: hard and heavy right now. And I thought of, you know, 146 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: with the passing of Chadwick, who I had an opportunity 147 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: to know and work with, I just went to this 148 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: place like he really inspired me to really live moment 149 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: to moment. I mean, if there's anyone that could show 150 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: how like what a noble life he lived, because he 151 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: just stayed so present and you would have never known. 152 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: And and I think that for a lot of us 153 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: that knew him, it's sort of like all of a 154 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: sudden it made so much sense, like, oh wow, like 155 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: that's why Chadwick was the way he was. And you 156 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: just have to I mean, I honestly believe and I 157 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: think about him now when my friend and then right 158 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: after that a friend gets diagnosed, and then I just think, 159 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: you know what that you just have to live every 160 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: day in the moment. It's a really hard thing to do. Yeah, 161 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: but we just don't know. No, we don't know. We 162 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: don't know what our existence. No, we don't know now, no, no, 163 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we's no idea. But yeah, but that can be a 164 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: beautiful thing too. I mean, if you look at it 165 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: the right way, you know the fact that we don't know, 166 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: there's something wonderful about that and freeing if you can 167 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: spin it. I mean yeah, Well I read an article 168 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: in The Guardian about this young man who's has terminal cancer. 169 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: He's thirty one years old, and he was talking about 170 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: what the things to remember to live by, and it 171 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: was it's not a sad article. It feels like it 172 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: could be. Like you read the headline, you're like, ooh, 173 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose it, you know, But I actually read 174 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: it and felt inspired because you can tell that he 175 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: felt like good and loved and that he lived well. 176 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, this man is really special and he 177 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: but one of the things he said is he said 178 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: be vulnerable because when he got diagnosed, he finally allowed 179 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: himself to live vulnerably from a place of love and 180 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: just pure vulnerability, and that his life in those two 181 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: years have been more beautiful than anything because he allowed 182 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: himself to open up like that to people. And I 183 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: just that really again, another thing where you went, you know, 184 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: that's so like what a gift to give, Like I 185 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: feel grateful that he passed that onto me through his 186 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: words through the Guardian. It's like so just like that. 187 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: So look, you're you know, when you're fifty, Oliver, I'm 188 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: going to send you lots of books and articles about 189 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: living in the moment. It'll be my first panic attack. 190 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: And then I say, when I turned fifty, I'm gon 191 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: like not know to do it. So, speaking of ageless wonders, Oliver, 192 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I just went We had Courtney Kardashian and Kendall Jenner 193 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: on that podcast solid segue, Thank you beautiful, You're pro 194 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: And I was super excited about this because they're sort 195 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: of you know, Courtney is sort of going through that 196 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: time right now and in the last year of like 197 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: wanting to be more private. I've always about Kendall kind 198 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: of even though they're all, you know, available, but I 199 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: always thought Kendall kind of did her own thing a 200 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah. Yeah, it was a great pairing. Actually, 201 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was fun to get those two together. Yeah. 202 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: For sure. I really want to get I mean, it 203 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: would be fun to get all of them, like I 204 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to all of them, you know, Oh 205 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: for sure. But the pairings were great, you know, you 206 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: got to get them right. Yeah, But it was they 207 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: were cool, man, they were super fun. Kendall you've known 208 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: as well obviously through just social circles. It was a 209 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: fashion world mm hmm. But there they were. They were awesome. 210 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: They were just very obviously down to earth and cool 211 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: and open. And Kendall especially, you know, I don't know, 212 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about her. I'm speaking from the outside. 213 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: You know, you you knew these girls a little bit better. 214 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: I only knew Courtney from basically watching the show. And 215 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: then Kendall, you know again, like you said, she's sort 216 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: of her own thing. She's got her own sort of 217 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: thing going on. So I didn't really I wasn't. They 218 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect. It's it's interesting when you know, 219 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: these are their family, it's really their cultural icons. Like 220 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: they changed the game in such a unprecedented way, like 221 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: not definitely not what was expected. They came on the 222 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: scene and they became you know, the Kardashians honestly really 223 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: did change the direction of which how people see celebrity 224 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: and and influence. You know, as much as I think 225 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: when you get to know them on keeping up the Kardashians, 226 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: like you really do fall in love with them. They're 227 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: very outspoken, They're really honest about there. They're very they're 228 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean talk about being open and sharing your life. 229 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know, I know I could 230 00:14:55,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: never do that, and just I mean just because. But 231 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: what we didn't know, which was announced today, was that 232 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be twenty twenty one will be the 233 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: end of breaking news, breaking news and sibling revelry. That's right. 234 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: Actually we didn't break the cavalry. It wasn't but we 235 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: just know that's it. Oh my god, how many how 236 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: many seasons? I mean like five hundred it's been going 237 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: on for us? I think it was around five hundred. Yeah, 238 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: I at the age of wonder. I mean no, but seriously, 239 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean they've been doing this for fourteen years. That's wait, Alison, 240 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: what twenty fourteen years? Twenty seasons? Oh my god, that's crazy. 241 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: That's half half their life. That is half their life. 242 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: There's got to be some liberation. There has to be 243 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: some I don't know a little. You're just projecting maybe 244 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: your own feelings on what that is or it will 245 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: be really sad, I guess. But they're still family, I 246 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: know the other you know, maybe they're going to be 247 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: like remember when we used to like sitting here and 248 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: makeup together before we were going to do the show, 249 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: like go over to each other's house. You know, remember 250 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: when we used to do our like style meetings together 251 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: and we were you know, I don't know. I mean, 252 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: I now nostalgia. Remember when Chloe, Chloe, remember when Remember 253 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: when you and I like took on Miami and we did. 254 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: We were in Miami trying to open the shop. You know, 255 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: there's like nostalgic moments. I'll just smoke a Jay and 256 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: watch you're keeping up with the Kardashians. I could actually 257 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: see you getting into one of those marathons for sure. 258 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. That was my jam. You know, I 259 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: just want to know what they're going to be next. 260 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: You would just switch between the Deadliest Catch and keeping 261 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: them Cardashians. Yeah. Balance is the key to a good life. Yeah, 262 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: I hear you. And it was nice to be able 263 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: to connect with Courtney like that. I hadn't done that 264 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: for many years. Yeah. And Kendall, I love how open 265 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Kendall is about things that she knows are important. I 266 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: actually have a little premonition about Kendall. I think she's 267 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna do some really interesting things as she gets older, 268 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: and I think she's going to be quite a powerful 269 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: force in a different way than people would expect her 270 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: to be. That's what I was a well, I mean, 271 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: what a professional segue, perfect moving to the episode. Moving 272 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: to the all right, enjoy our episode with Courtney and Kendall. 273 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm really excited you guys are here. Thank you so 274 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: having me. Okay, so little history. Courtney and Kim are 275 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: around the same grade as me in high school. So 276 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: in the Kate and I are the same grade, and 277 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: we have our birthdays are one day apart. That's right. Yeah, 278 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: So so Courtney and Kim were we were all in 279 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: the same grade. The girls where they went to Marymount. 280 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: I went to Crossroads, and they were like the girls 281 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: that the guys talked about all the time. Oh yeah, 282 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: And I remember being in high school going who the 283 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: fuck is like Courtney and Kim Kardashian. This is crazy 284 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: because the guys they'd be like, you know, talking about 285 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: how they saw the girls whenever, and it was like, 286 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, the mysterious Kardashians. And then I remember we 287 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: were at a party. I forget which one. It was 288 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: Ashley Crane's house. I remember seeing once at actually Crane's 289 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: birthday party. I think I saw you guys at Victor Ehrenberg's. Yeah. 290 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Maybe was my first boyfriend, yes, exactly. Okay, so Elia 291 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: was my best friend in high school. So that's so 292 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: this is sort of Lilia was a study. But Kim 293 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: broke up with him for me on a on a votemuth. 294 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: She left him a voice message on his home answering machine. 295 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: We only were dating for two weeks. We never saw 296 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: each other because he had bronchitis, so there was no 297 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: making out, there was nothing. So here, so here we are. 298 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: And I remember the first time I saw the girls. 299 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: You were in your in your uniforms, like about five 300 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: inches shorter than they were supposed to be, I'm sure. 301 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: And I I remember the initial like reaction to seeing like, oh, 302 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm finally meeting the girls that the guys are all 303 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: talking about all the time. And I was like, oh yeah, 304 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: like I get it. They're really hot, Oh my god. 305 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: And I remember the dynamic then, which was like you 306 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: were always the one that the guys felt like they 307 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: could talk to. Kim was always the one that was like, Okay, 308 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Kim is like a little bit you can't really get 309 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: close enough to her, but like Courtney was the best friend. 310 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: So that was my perception of what they were in 311 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: high school. That's like pretty accurate team. I think that's 312 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: more of how our personalities even are now. I'm definitely 313 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: more social, but that's even like me and Kylie, Like 314 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the more the more Kim type, 315 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: like I kind of have like a little bit of 316 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: a wall. And Kylie's super like always even when we 317 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: were growing up, she had so many friends and like everyone, 318 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: like she was just easy to get along with, and 319 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: I was always like, I don't know about you. Even 320 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: when Kim's friends would come over, they would end up 321 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: hanging out with me, and that's really I would get 322 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: so mad. All my friends would go, hang Kylie real quick. Okay, 323 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: you're the oldest. Is the breakdown? Me thn Kim, then Chloe, 324 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: then Rob, than Kendall, than Kylie. My god, poor Rob, 325 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Holy ship, a boy that's not even throwing the Jenners. 326 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: There's a whole other. You've got Rob and then Bert 327 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: and case that's right, Burt and Casey. Wait, so is 328 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Burt older than you? Yes, he's a year older than me, 329 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: and Casey is the same. I wasn't in this whole. 330 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: I'm three years older, so you're ancient. You're like super 331 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: I know, It's okay, I still looks pretty good. No, 332 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: I was three years older. I was I was at 333 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: like Bar one. I was at Bar One. That's where 334 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: I saw you guys sometimes at like Opium Den Dublin, 335 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: remember Dublin. Where were all of these? Was the best? 336 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: These were all l A clubs. They were in West Hollywood, Hollywood, Hollywood. 337 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: The days of LA clubbing was actually pretty fun back. 338 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: So let's start seriously, because you guys are very your 339 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: how many years apart are you sixteen? Do you feel 340 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: like you had very different upbringings? Yes, what would you say? 341 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: Your The dynamic was in the house. It was you, 342 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: and it was Kim, and it was and then Chloe 343 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: and Rob. We there was We would go to church 344 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: every Sunday and it was very like family. And my 345 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: mom's big on celebrating everything, you know, every any little 346 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: excuse for a celebration. My mom was very involved, like 347 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, would make our lunches, would make dinner every night, 348 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: would make us breakfast. I don't know if she was 349 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I think she was working more with you guys, she 350 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: was working more, but in the big like in our 351 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: really much younger years. She always made us dinner and 352 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: breakfast and lunch and everything. And and my dad would 353 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: do a lot. And I think when we were like 354 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: when we moved to the house that now Rob lives in, 355 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: she was still kind of doing it. And that's when 356 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: it started to die off and it became more my 357 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: dad cooking for us. But yeah, I mean you would. Yeah, 358 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: they they made great food. I mean it was the same. 359 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: Remember you told me about the picket fence protests that 360 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: you guys did for the spaghetti. Oh yeah, my mom 361 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: used to make spaghetti every single night, and so I 362 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: it was just repetitive mines and I would walk around 363 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: the house with a sign and say no more spaghetti, 364 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: like I'm not eating your dinners anymore. But yeah, they 365 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: were kind of repetitive. What's really interesting to me when 366 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: I think about just our age gap is like there 367 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: was a time in life where we were like, I mean, 368 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm still the little sister, but where we were like 369 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: really the little sisters, like you could probably never imagine 370 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: like hanging out with us on like a like a 371 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: friendship personal level. And then it just like it's I wonder, 372 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: like what age was it that it flipped where we 373 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: actually like started hanging out and like they hang out 374 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: with my friends now. Sometimes when we go out together 375 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: and we go to like we actually go on trips together. 376 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember the moment when it was like, okay, 377 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: she's of age, like, let's go get a beer, let's 378 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: go get a drink, let's go hang as. Yeah, when 379 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: did we start? Probably when I was like eighteen nineteen, 380 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: like when it really started to become like and kettle 381 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: also was became what age did you become like this model? 382 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: And you know what I remember is when I had 383 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: rain and so I wasn't I can't even add right now. 384 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: I think I was thirty five. Then how old were 385 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: you at that time? Twenty one thirty five minus sixteen, 386 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, twenty twenty five, how old you twenty three, 387 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty four? So I remember we started. Guys, 388 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: it's okay, everyone's successful here. We don't need to know 389 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: how to add that. Well, it's eight people in this 390 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: nineteen I think she was nice. It would be nineteen 391 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: we were six. We're six thirty years apart. So but 392 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: I remember at that time going with you to that 393 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: the roast, the Comedy Centual Roast, and then I feel 394 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: like we would start, yeah, or if we'd have a 395 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: barbecue at the house, you would come and bring your 396 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: friends and then totally and like also our birthdays, like 397 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: when ye, Kylie's eighteenth birthday, it was like everyone was. 398 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I feel like that's when it was really starting. Was 399 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: like when Kylie turned eighteen and I was like nineteen 400 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: twenty Yeah, how old were you in when your dad 401 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: passed away? Twenty four? Wow? You were my age? That's crazy. Yeah, 402 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: your mom at that time was with your dad. They 403 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: weren't together for yeah for a while. Yeah. And so 404 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: did you ever have a moment where mama was like 405 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: dating guys? Yes, when I was eleven and my parents 406 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: got a divorce. When I was eleven, my mom had 407 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: first she had a boyfriend, then they broke up, and 408 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: then she was I just remember her going to Bar One. 409 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: She would go to Bar one all the time. That 410 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: was her spot. What year this was? That's so funny. 411 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: You weren't there, okay, it's like sixteen, you were like no, 412 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: you were like fourteen, Cole, you were there yet. But 413 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: she would go to Bar one and she would wear 414 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: these tight like a live dresses that was the what 415 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: year was this? And the this was early nineties yes, yeah, 416 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: like late eighties, early nineties. Yeah, And she wore like 417 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: hot pink lipstick, and I just remember she was such 418 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: a vibe. She had like this sailor hat that she 419 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: would wear sometimes out. She was super nineties. Oh so funny. 420 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: And did she and she had boy? She had a boy. 421 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend, but not for very long. And 422 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: then she was just out having fun with her friends 423 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: and who knows what she was doing. But and then 424 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: she started dating Bruce. And I remember he came over 425 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: for his first for their first date, to pick her 426 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: up at the house, and I was there with my 427 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: friends and we were actually trying on her tight dresses 428 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: and doing a fashion show. And I have all these photos. 429 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I think we put one on my brother, a fluorescent 430 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: yellow one, and we had photos of Rob and this 431 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: florescent yellow dress with your dad. That's so funny, so cool. 432 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: What did you think of him, like, do you remember, 433 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, was there a moment where it was like, Okay, 434 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: this is real? And were you always accepting of sort 435 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: of your mom dating other guys and having her own life. 436 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: You were not? Definitely not. But also you hated my 437 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: dad for a second, right, but not in the beginning. 438 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: I liked him in the beginning, and then they were 439 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: we had all of the kid this I had now 440 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: four step siblings, so we thought that was super fun 441 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and we would go on trips together. Bruce had a 442 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: house in Lake Tahoe, so we would always go and 443 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: we thought it was so much fun. And then just 444 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: when he would tell me what to do, you know, 445 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: or it's the I think it's one of the hardest 446 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: positions to have to be in because I mean, there's 447 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: four of you guys, and then you're walking into this 448 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: dynamic that's been going on for quite a while, and 449 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: it's just hard. My dad had a fiance who lived 450 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: with us for maybe five years. Oh wow, and I 451 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: loved her and we got along extremely well. Then Denise. 452 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: Where's Denise? And we're still friendly, we're still close. She 453 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: came over on Christmas actually to our party, and her 454 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and I always had you know, there was probably a 455 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: few little things, but I think, you know, she I 456 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: think she wasn't strict with us. That's the difference. She 457 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: would try to teach us a lot. She's the person 458 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: who taught Kim and I about makeup. She gave us 459 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: these makeup lessons and had someone video us doing makeup 460 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: and we learned. She bought us all you know, makeup, 461 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: and she would just try to give us all these 462 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: lessons about being you know, a woman and just teach 463 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: us all these tricks and things like that. But was 464 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: the divorce was the divorce? Was it a good divorce, 465 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: meaning like, was it was it amicable? Contentious? Yeah? But 466 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: they ended up with my mom our mom and and 467 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: uncle Robert ended up being like cool. Yeah, then they 468 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: ended up being close friends and and like my dad 469 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: and uncle Robert were a calm and were really cool 470 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: right after a while. And then once he was cool 471 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: with Bruce, then I felt like I could be nice 472 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: to Bruce. Yeah, that's so interesting. You're protective. Do you 473 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: have moments where you're like, I can't stand this sibling 474 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: right now, and I don't get I don't I'm not 475 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm not backing you up. I'm not protecting you. You 476 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: you fend for yourself. I mean, I think, like any 477 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: sibling relationship, there's always like you getting these crazy fights 478 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: and you can hate them for five minutes, but then 479 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes later, you're like, all you want to 480 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: get lunch. Like it's like kind of that relationship. But 481 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: also if you're talking about like you know, publicly when 482 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: we always say like when we're like a group, we're 483 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: like a package deal, do you know what I mean? 484 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: So it's like when one of us does something, it 485 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: kind of reflects on all of us. So there's not 486 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: that like, you know, what, screw you, you go deal 487 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: with it. It's your problem, tod it, because it's kind 488 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: of anything that we all do. It's like all of 489 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: our problems. I mean, we joke about like when you 490 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: when you when you date one of us, you date 491 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: all of us, Like it's like kind of that thing 492 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: of like. But I think I think there are so intimidated. 493 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I know, everyone kind of then gets in your business, 494 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, when with the dating thing. But I think 495 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: as far as like if one of us says something publicly, 496 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: like Kendall recently said something that I wasn't happy about. 497 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: She went on James Corden and they said rate your 498 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: sibling in order of worst parents, best parents. And she 499 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: and I saw her right after at a party and 500 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: she ran up to me and was like, oh my god, 501 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: I said this thing. And I said, you was the 502 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: last parent and haha, like it was the joke. I 503 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: didn't mean it, blah blah blah. And I was like, 504 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: first of all, that is not what I said to you. 505 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: I went up to you because I was like, I 506 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna put Rob first and 507 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: then the rest. I'm just not even gonna like. I 508 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: just was like, I'm just gonna throw them out there, 509 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: and Courtney, I swear to god, this is how It's 510 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: like she happened to be the last one. So then 511 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that sounds kind of bad. So 512 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: but before I was like, they're all amazing whatever. They 513 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: are all incredible parents, and I don't have a kid. 514 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: We were just talking about this. I can't really speak 515 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: for anyone because I don't have a child, but I know, 516 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: just visually amazing question. I'm not kidding. Is it your 517 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: scenario with your kids? And your family always the source 518 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: of most of like the conversation conversation, there's always something 519 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: happening about me. I was just like, I'm the least 520 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: one that needs to be You have more said why 521 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: why do you get picked on? So I don't know. 522 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm like an easy target or 523 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: they think I'm not going to say anything, or it's 524 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: like if she would have said that about Kim or 525 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Kylie and then me or Chloe would have been the 526 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: easiest ones to say it about. So I feel like, 527 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: forget it if you said it about Kim or Kylie. Yeah. 528 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: Let me let me ask Kendall this question because you 529 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: are an outside perspective. You do not have kids, and 530 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: this is not a rating or a judging. But do 531 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: you see those who do have the children? Do you 532 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: see how they parent? Do they parent differently? Do they 533 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: all parent a little differently, or is there a common 534 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: thread between all of them, like the way they discipline 535 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: their kids? Maybe? Yeah, I know they're like traveling all 536 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: over the world. No I know. Yeah, No, she's not wrong, 537 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: like I don't. So, yeah, you guys, I'm going to Milan. 538 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: I see you later. Yeah you know, I literally don't. 539 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't see a lot like I see them as 540 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: often as I could. But so she's not wrong. But 541 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're with me and the kid. 542 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I do, and I see a lot of it. I 543 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: get a very personal feel of who the most, probably yours. 544 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: I see courts the most because I travel with her 545 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: and the kids a lot more than I travel with 546 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: the rest of them. But no, that I mean, I 547 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: think naturally, there's definitely differences in discipline in all those things, 548 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: and not to say any of them are wrong or 549 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: bad or you know, like I said, I can't really 550 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: see parent from your perspective, court And who's the strictest, 551 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: like yeah, no, don't do that type of vibe. It's 552 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: between Kim and Chloe. Well that I don't need. Maybe 553 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: it's Kim. I think it's Chloe. Really, I would assume 554 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: it would be Chloe just is her personality that she's like, 555 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it. But her daughter is also not 556 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: even two years old, right, I mean that's tough, so 557 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: there's a big difference. But I think Chloe is going 558 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: to be like a face. I feel like my friend 559 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: has this thing where anytime something's happening in her life, 560 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just I need to, like Courtney Kardashian, 561 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: this I need And what that means is and this 562 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: is her what she was saying about it is that 563 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: it's like nothing seems to face Courtney. I mean, is 564 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: that is that who you are? It is? It can 565 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: be and it is a lot of times. But I 566 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: do have my moments of being impatient or you know, 567 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 1: you know who I think is even more like that 568 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know is Kylie. Kylie 569 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: is Soldida, Like everything is just like and cute. Yeah, 570 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: Kylie is the baby, right, She's the baby. What was 571 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: it like for you guys when the new ones came 572 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: in play? You know what I mean? Like? Was there 573 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: was it? Was? It? Was it exciting? Was it taking 574 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: attention away from you guys? I know you were, but 575 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: you know what was that vibe? Like? I think it 576 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: was super exciting. I remember when we knew that my 577 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: mom was trying to get pregnant with Kendall, so you know, 578 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: we were that was very exciting for us. We were 579 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: in the room when Kendall was born and then with Kylie. 580 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: When she told us she was pregnant. With Kylie, it 581 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: was a huge shock. So I remember being like what 582 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: and we were kind of embarrassed. I think, like our 583 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: mom was having another kid. At it was like forty 584 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: it was more rare, I think at that time, well 585 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: at that time, now it's now it's normal. But at 586 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: the time I remember, I think she was forty she 587 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: was forty forty one with Kylie because she was by 588 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: the time she had her, she was forty one but 589 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: I remember being just feeling a little embarrassed, like, is 590 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: should she be having another kid? Are you able to? Like, 591 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: we just were kind of surprised, and then you know, 592 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: by the time we were really excited. We were in 593 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: the room. Also when Kylie was born. Wow, like during 594 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: the birth, Wow, that's awesome. Was it your mom's idea 595 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: to do the show? Yes, we were actually Kim, Chloe 596 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: and I were trying to do a show about this 597 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: producer came to Kim and we were trying to do 598 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: a show about our stores dash. They just kind of 599 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: followed us and that's what they thought was great. And 600 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: then when we were doing that, they started filming with 601 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: our family, Like they came to the house once for dinner, 602 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: they started filming some stuff, and then I think they 603 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: just decided to do a family show. And do you 604 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: go back and never look at any of the past 605 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: episodes and go like, oh my god, that's crazy, or 606 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: I just forget a lot. So I'll look and I'll 607 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll just be like, wow, I can't believe we did 608 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: this or we showed this, or you know, there's only 609 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: time that I'll ever like if I'm like channel searching 610 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: or whatever, and I see that our show is on 611 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: the only episodes I'll ever click on, or like the 612 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: really old ones like the first because those are like 613 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: low key videos to us, Like, so it's really cool 614 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: for me to see those ones, the new ones. And 615 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: you're such a baby. I know, I'm so crazy weird 616 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: to see how like little Kylie and I were. Oh 617 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: my god. There must be also such a fashion shift. 618 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: But it is crazy that almost every day of our 619 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: lives were photographed, so to see these crazy outfits. Sometimes 620 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: the fashion was so awful, so bad, but at the time, 621 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: so I always think about this. I'm always like, okay, 622 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: so whenever anyone looks at an old photo of them, 623 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: whether it's their face or their clothes or whatever, and 624 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, what was I thinking? Like 625 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: are we always going to look back? And like, what 626 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: was I thinking now? Because look at like my mom, 627 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: like eighties, seventies, eighties mom. It's like, you guys know 628 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: what's happening right now. Because of the four of us, 629 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much the fashion person the nineties has made 630 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: a major comeback. I don't firstly that guy, I don't 631 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: like it. It's like I'm you love it, but I'm 632 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: not into the high highway jeans and these huge, white, 633 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: clunky shoes and yeah, it's not my thing. Oh you're 634 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: wearing these like mom jeans. Okay, they're not mom jeans. 635 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: They're they're basically going up to your breasts. I mean, 636 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: they're very they feel great, they feel great, everything looks 637 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: so great. No, no, but it doesn't. It makes the 638 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: tushy not look as good. Differ. I beg to different 639 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: pull up the moml mom jeans sketch. That's what it is. 640 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: That's not I mean, that's literally just here's the thing. Literally, 641 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 1: guys don't like the high waisted jeans. They literally none 642 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: of them like crazy, none of them like it, and 643 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: I mean not and it's but I love the What 644 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: I love the most is that girls don't care. I 645 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: was about to ask that question. Do girls dress for 646 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: girls or do you dress for boys? I dress for myself? 647 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: You do I dress for girls? Yeah, I mean girls 648 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: for yourself. But I mean, like, do you take into 649 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: account what the what a guy might like or is 650 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: it idea? It depends on the day, it depends on 651 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: what we're it depends on what you're doing. Yeah it does, 652 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: But is it the specific guy you might be going 653 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: on a date with, or is it just in general, 654 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: Like if you and I are going on a date, right, 655 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: like dress for you? Yeah, Well, here's the thing you 656 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: just you just heard. You just heard that. I I 657 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm sort of like the high waist thing. I'm like, eh, 658 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: so if we go on a date, probably wouldn't wear 659 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: those jeans. I probably wouldn't if you were like, I 660 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: really don't like high waisted jeans, and then I probably 661 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't come in with a with a big mom geno. 662 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: I just think if you're going to dress for your body, 663 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: and you're gonna and you know what looks good on you, 664 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: then other people are going to see that that looks 665 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: the better you feel in whatever you're wearing, that translates 666 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: on other people. 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That's 728 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: code sibling for five dollars off your first order with 729 00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: door Dash. Deserve any part of you, guys where it's 730 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: just like God. Of course it goes without saying that 731 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: you know you're grateful for all this the opportunity that 732 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: even the keeping up with the Kardashians has given you. 733 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: But is there any part of it that's just sort 734 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: of like I just for just a week, just I 735 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: wish this was just I could just fucking go out 736 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: and do my thing and go on family vacation or 737 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: just you know, get me out of this. I think, 738 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: get me at it. We've come to the place where 739 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: we can. Yeah, I think, fine, please you find the 740 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: places and I almost like demand it, like I will 741 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store if I'm in the mood 742 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: or you know, I don't really let let it hold 743 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: me back. I think there's times when, like you said, 744 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: like you can't even go out to dinner with the 745 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, somebody that you're seeing because you don't know 746 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: what it is or whatever. But then I'm just like 747 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: I have to live my life too. But at some 748 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 1: point you realize like it just doesn't matter anymore. It's 749 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: like someone's gonna say that I'm doing something that I'm 750 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: not doing anyway, and I'm doing this, and I'm this, 751 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: I'm and everyone forgets about something like a within a week. 752 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: So it's kind of just like if you're gonna do it, 753 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: just do it, and you're right. Everyone says it, so 754 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna say something anyways, and in a week, no 755 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: one will remember this, especially now, especially now. That's why 756 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: I've done so many Hallmark movies, because I think everyone 757 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: just forgets, like it's a collective paycheck and then move 758 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: on to maybe something cooler. Do you take the money around? 759 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: Do you know everything that's out there? Do you get 760 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: to a certain point where you just don't even like 761 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: someone can say something to you you have no idea 762 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: that that was out there as like some rumor. I 763 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: think we usually know on some level just because everything 764 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. You don't even have to 765 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: like look for it. Sometimes it's just like like we 766 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,240 Speaker 1: were talking about our Instagram popular page earlier, Like sometimes 767 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: it just like pops up and you're like wait, what, 768 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: like how did people and what is this? Do you 769 00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: ruminate over it? If something's intense enough for you know whatever, 770 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: I think definitely. I think it depends on the subject matter, 771 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: especially like stuff with me about my kids, Like when 772 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: Kendall said that even though I know it was not 773 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: intentional and she didn't mean it, but that like got 774 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: to I apologized for yes, which she did, and I 775 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: wrote her and said that it hurt my feelings and 776 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 1: then she apologized and it was fine. But like stuff 777 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: like that where it's about like a series, you know, 778 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: like a topic, and then you're like, oh god, now 779 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 1: everyone thinks I'm the worst parent in the and then 780 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: it's like who cares? I know that I'm not. We 781 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: have different parenting styles, you know, is your mom the center? 782 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: Like is she the great mediator of the family or 783 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: are there moments where there's still individuation happening. I think 784 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,359 Speaker 1: we're super independent and individual, but our mom is like 785 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: i'd say, like home base, captain, whatever you want to 786 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: call it. Like, if I'm ever having an issue, whether 787 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: it be personal life or work life, I'm running to 788 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: my mom, like I'm gonna call my mom just probably 789 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: like like anyone would. But it's it's a plus that 790 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: she also, like you know, helps us out with our 791 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: with our work stuff. Being so young, Actually, did your 792 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 1: parents ever talk to you when the show is happening? Like, look, 793 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: this is what life is like right now. This isn't 794 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: necessarily this is your life, but there's this isn't real 795 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 1: life in a sense, even though it is. You know 796 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: what I mean, was there a bigger talk or was 797 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: it just this is what we're doing because at eleven 798 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: years old, your your brain is still forming, yeah, and 799 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: your cognition is right. And I wonder this. I wonder 800 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: stuff like this a lot, and I it's hard to say, 801 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: like I know the exact reason or whatever why Kylie 802 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: and I ended up for the most part pretty like 803 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: chilled and like normal about the whole situation because we 804 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: actually lived it. So I can't tell you like what's 805 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: different from like how we did it, to like how 806 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: someone else was raised, because I that's the kind of 807 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: the only thing I know. I mean, I can tell 808 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: you surface level what I think I see. But it's 809 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: so interesting because I think about it all the time 810 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: and like how they raised us, what was different? And 811 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: why how did we How did everything turn out this way? 812 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm just like it was a slow build 813 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: and it was gradual, and they made us feel so 814 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: like we never had like we weren't just given everything. 815 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: We were spoiled. For sure, we were very blessed and 816 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,800 Speaker 1: we had a great upbringing. And I have no complaints whatsoever, 817 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: but like it wasn't I don't know, correct me, if 818 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: you think I'm wrong, but I just think Kylie and 819 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: I grew up for the most part pretty normal. And 820 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: I know I've said that a minute ago, but like 821 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: it was, just what do you attribute that to? Because 822 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: you guys all seem very down to earth, well rounded, 823 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: grounded people who are appreciative, you know, I mean, is 824 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: that the parents that parenting? I mean, do you think 825 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't have like a like in a direct answer 826 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: for you, because I just I haven't been able to 827 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: like put my finger on the exact thing that it is, 828 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: but I could generalize it too. Yeah, I think it's 829 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 1: amazing parenting. But beyond amazing parenting. I think it's it 830 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: is like you are a product of what you're like. 831 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: It is just the lifestyle we lived like. We lived 832 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 1: like just we went to normal school and like that's 833 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,919 Speaker 1: what I was concerned about. I didn't care like who 834 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: was coming over for dinner. There is like a surprising 835 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: groundedness that you guys have that I don't know if 836 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: it's represented in your show, but you have a very 837 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: centered and that does It comes from your It has 838 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: to come from your parents, and you guys, no matter 839 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: what's happening, are are always so close I think that's 840 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: a huge testament to your mama right now, your brothers. 841 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: Are you close with Brody and Brandon? Yeah, we we 842 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: are obviously not as close as my sisters, and even 843 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: just growing up, I grew up they lived in the 844 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: same house with me at one point, so we just 845 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 1: had like I just wasn't ever as close with them 846 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: growing up, but we were always like I saw them 847 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: all the time, and we go I go in and 848 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: out of like phases with them, Like there will be 849 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: times where I'm home a lot, and like I'll go 850 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: over to Alibu and I'll see my dad and my brothers. 851 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 1: So it's not that we're not close, it's just not 852 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 1: as close. And then do you go in and out 853 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: of being close with one sibling totally? How does it 854 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,240 Speaker 1: happen though? I mean just because you're it just happened. 855 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: I think it kind of shifts, doesn't it. Yeah, Like, 856 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm all that could be closest with Courtney right now, 857 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,760 Speaker 1: But Kylie and I will always have some special certain 858 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: bond and maybe that's because her and I are full blood. 859 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: Of course, Kylie was my per like Kylie was my pair, 860 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: So there were things that I experienced with her mostly 861 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: because of an age difference that I didn't experience with Courtney. 862 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: Like we we were. I mean, we're very clear, we're 863 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 1: twenty one months apart, so we're like pretty much twins 864 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: at a certain point. So like we just did all 865 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: these things together, we grew up together. Who is the 866 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 1: most Instagram followers? Uh? Kim is Kim? And where's Kim? 867 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: And Kylie are pretty much like they're very there? Okay? 868 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: And there were how many Instagram followers? Is that? I 869 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know? Millions? Does anyone care? I mean, does it? Kid? 870 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: Do you? Guys? Is there any is there? You've got 871 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: more than I do? Not at all? You do that 872 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: with me? What about the competitive nature? You know what 873 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean? Is there is there? There is literally none? None. 874 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: I don't feel any, do you. I don't envy, you're 875 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: jealousy of like? Fuck? You know I want that, Swear 876 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: to god, I don't feel any I mean personally at least, 877 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: and I don't feel it towards me. But I also 878 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: think that's because we all just are so different when 879 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: you really think about it, and we'd all do such 880 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: different things. And that's something that I like, really the 881 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: reason I got so excited when you said that is 882 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: because it's something that i'm so just like thankful for, 883 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 1: like because it's so easy. There's so many girls, and 884 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: like it's so just like could be so caddy, and 885 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: it's not at all, at least in my opinion. Him 886 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: and I had it growing up. Kylie and I were 887 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, but now I think there's none. But 888 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: growing up there was that sort of butting heads, like 889 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: stealing each other's clothes, so feeling each other's friends boyfriends. Right, 890 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,320 Speaker 1: And I have a question. You guys have put yourself, 891 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,560 Speaker 1: put yourself out there for basically entire lives. There's a 892 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: probably at this point, I can say a societal perspective 893 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 1: on who you guys are or a perception. Right. What 894 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: is bullshit about that? Is there are there things that 895 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: the society probably thinks about you, just based on what 896 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: they've seen, which honestly is based on editing, because let's 897 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: be honest, they can edit you guys in ways the 898 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: way you're like, wait a minute, that's bullshit, that's not 899 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: who I am. It's frustrating. It's got to be frustrated, 900 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: especially because you can't micromanage all. You have to just 901 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: let it roll. What do you think the one thing 902 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,439 Speaker 1: that that society might get wrong. There's not just one thing. 903 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,960 Speaker 1: There's so many many things. Like I'm like trying to 904 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: think of things that like for me, it's more of 905 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: like a like a very like a tunnel of like 906 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: who I feel like I'm edited to be like very 907 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: like gluten free, dairy free, like like won't but you are. 908 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 1: It's like but the way, no, but the way it 909 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: is like first of all, yes, I am at my house, 910 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: but like then I don't know, I'm not. It's pretty 911 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,759 Speaker 1: those things are You're like, no, when I go to 912 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: a restaurant, no, I am not gluten for everyone's on 913 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: her shes no, but you're saying that they kind of 914 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: there's this idea that you're like so regimented exactly that 915 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm super rigid. And like when we had the girl's 916 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 1: birthday party, it was a candy Land theme and so 917 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: there was this big fight between me and Kim about 918 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want as much junk food at the party 919 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: and she did. And so it was this whole thing 920 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: and then the whole way that it was portrayed though 921 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: it looked like I don't know, it looks like you 922 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: were no fun, right, yeah, exactly, that's the character that 923 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: they've sort of made you right to be, right, right, 924 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: So it's bothersome when I'm like, I'm the most fun 925 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: and what about you? Kendles are anything specific? I know 926 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot, but one or two where it's like 927 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: this is kind of bullshit because this isn't really who 928 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: I am. Well, it's not even I mean, I'm not 929 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: even talking personally. I'm talking about like like the whole 930 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: just Kardashian gener like label. I guess I just I 931 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: get I'm super loyal and I'm super defensive over like 932 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: the people that I love. So especially when it's like 933 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 1: a whole group, like when we're talking about our entire family. 934 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's a lot of the 935 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: time when people are just like, oh, like that we 936 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 1: manipulate situations, or that we do this, or that we 937 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: do that, or like even people are like they call 938 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: the paparazzi and they do this, and I'm like, why 939 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: would First of all, first of all, I don't have 940 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: the time. Second of all, like why I don't You're 941 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: the one that's just none of it makes sense to 942 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: me sometimes and that gets super frustrating because I'm like, there, 943 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 1: I know people I know, like people that I would 944 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,640 Speaker 1: never name who actually do that stuff that you guys 945 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't ever think do that, And like I couldn't even 946 00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 1: tell you who to who to call, who to tell 947 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,760 Speaker 1: who to you know what I mean? Like it's things 948 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: like that's just one random example, and that's kind of 949 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 1: a very general one, but like there are so many 950 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: things like that where people don't actually realize how Like 951 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: I mean, like like we're actually pretty like I don't know, 952 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: you get what I'm trying to say. I know what 953 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to say, Well you're trying. Sometimes I have 954 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: a hard hard time. I get really a hype. I 955 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're trying to say. We're basically saying 956 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 1: is everybody will always try to make you, guys look 957 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 1: like you're attempting to make it happen, and it's not 958 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 1: just something that's actually organically what it is. Your mom 959 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 1: is sitting there with the puppet strings calling what I'm 960 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 1: trying walking down the street and what is that? There's 961 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: that meme that's like the devil works hard, but Chris 962 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: Jenner works harder, or something like that. It's like people 963 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,759 Speaker 1: really think we sit here and like play out calculate 964 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: all these things and like, but it's genuinely it's it's 965 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: literally why we have a show is because we're actually 966 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: we just are. There's craziness all the time and it's 967 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: just not even planned, and that's just why our show. 968 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,959 Speaker 1: Bet you guys ever think about like where you'd be 969 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: if the show didn't exist. I mean, what would your 970 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: life be like, Oh, yeah, we have to go. We 971 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: want to do this. We want to go through each 972 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: person in your family and what you think they would 973 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: be doing they would be doing if you were It's 974 00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: funny keeping up with ku. What would your mom be 975 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,799 Speaker 1: doing right now? You got to start with mom. Well, 976 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: my mom and I had at the time when our 977 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,280 Speaker 1: show started, we had a kid's clothing store called Smooch Okay, 978 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: and then two years later we opened My Sisters and 979 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: I opened Dash, which was our store two doors down, 980 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: and I pretty much ran the smooch one and Chloe 981 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: pretty much ran Dash. But I don't know, I don't 982 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: know if we'd have still be doing the stores, you'd 983 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 1: probably be in fashion going and buying, and you'd open 984 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 1: probably like your version of we would market exactly. So 985 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 1: we were doing these buying trips, Kim, Chloe and I 986 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: in New York, and we had the best time. We 987 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 1: would go to all these lunches, so buying trips and 988 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,920 Speaker 1: go out. It was really fink the three of you 989 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: would be in business together, fashion, right, you'd be in 990 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: fashion okay, but specifically Mom would be what the accountant, like, 991 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: what would my mom might be accounting? She would maybe 992 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: still do the store. My grandmother, my mom's mom had 993 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: a kid's clothing store in La Joya until maybe four 994 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: years ago, so no, I think it was a little 995 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: like maybe two years ago. Oh really, yeah, so she 996 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,240 Speaker 1: had the store forever. We would go there growing up. 997 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,280 Speaker 1: So maybe my mom would still do the kid's store. 998 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: Her thing at the store, she could sell anything to anybody. 999 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: She was the number one ultimate salesperson. If anyone walked in, 1000 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: no matter how much money they had, Mom she would 1001 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 1: convince them that they just needed everything. She would make 1002 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: the biggest sales. And then she her thing was also 1003 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 1: doing the windows. She just would make the windows look 1004 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: so magical. And I did all the buying and paid 1005 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: the bills and okay, Kim Kim would at her role 1006 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 1: like at the store was more like styling like people. 1007 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 1: She would go to people's houses, bring them a bunch 1008 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: of like help people clean out their closets. She would 1009 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: say like, this is what you don't need, this is 1010 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: what you need. She would clean out their whole closet, 1011 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: say get all this stuff from Dash and then all right, 1012 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 1: so I'm going to say Kim would end up being stylist. 1013 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: And then Chloe. Chloe really ran Dash like she was 1014 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: the one, you know who the operator? Yeah, the operator, 1015 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: So I was the CEO. I'll just make that there. 1016 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: And then and Kylie, I have no like I'm trying 1017 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 1: to think what she would be doing. I mean, she 1018 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: really created Kylie Cosmetics. She really did. That's why I'm 1019 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: saying she still had to think of her doing anything else. 1020 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: Like she really still would still be doing it, right, 1021 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: she just wouldn't have the same platform. It would just 1022 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: be ready to do something in cosmetics, I'm sure, And 1023 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: you still she would still be I feel like I 1024 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: would have gone to the Olympics, yeah that riding. Yeah 1025 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,400 Speaker 1: I still would love to go, but I just haven't 1026 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: make it happen. But you can make that time. How 1027 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: cool was that? I'd love to be the second Olympian Jenner. 1028 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: That would be amazing, you know, I know, you know 1029 00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: I think about it all the time. I really do. 1030 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 1: I have two horses. But you also don't like you 1031 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: can travel and ride anywhere you go, right world? Yeah, 1032 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: and you don't have to be modest. Do you have 1033 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 1: the talent? Yeah? No, I mean I I I literally 1034 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: did it for twelve years straight, like my whole life 1035 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: didn't stop. I'd like, would go from eight am to 1036 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: eight pm. 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So right now, butcher 1098 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Boxes offering new members ground beef for life. I'm gonna 1099 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 1: say that again. Butcher Box is offering new members ground 1100 01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: beef for life. That's two pounds of ground beef in 1101 01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: every box for the life of their subscription. Just go 1102 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: to butcherbox dot com slash sibling. That's butcherbox dot com 1103 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: slash sibling. Okay, so, what have been the highlights so far? 1104 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: You're forty years old of your working life. Kids aren't 1105 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: You can't say kids because kids are always highlights, so 1106 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: that's not allowed to that, But like, what had been 1107 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: the highlights? Just say right now, right now? Doing this enough. Yes, right, 1108 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: Our family did an interview with Oprah, which was really cool. 1109 01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: She came and interviewed each family member, even thinking back 1110 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 1: to moments that at the time I didn't think were 1111 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,160 Speaker 1: a thing, like even just like doing David Letterman or 1112 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, things like I get really nervous to do 1113 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,400 Speaker 1: shows like that now and I think, like, I don't 1114 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: even know if I could do that, but I would 1115 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,680 Speaker 1: go with no, I had no care. I had so 1116 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: much confidence. I would just like walk out and just 1117 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even really get it. Everything was moving so 1118 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 1: quickly that I feel like we just did things all 1119 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,520 Speaker 1: the time. Like I did a soap opera like an 1120 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 1: acting thing as which I'm the worst actress of all time, 1121 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 1: But I did that just kind of for fun. We 1122 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: were in New York and they filming our show and 1123 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: they asked me to do that. So there's been so 1124 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: many different things that I've tried, and I think to 1125 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,760 Speaker 1: all these random jobs that me and my sisters had 1126 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that I think are just so cool that we had 1127 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to try experience. Yeah, what about travel? Do 1128 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,960 Speaker 1: you like to travel? I love to travel. What's your 1129 01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 1: favorite place? I mean, BALI was really special. It just 1130 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: it was really different, I think than anywhere I had been, 1131 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: and just you know, but I really love going to Japan. 1132 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I think the time change and just it feels like 1133 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: you're in a different world, like you're on a different planet. 1134 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: For some reason, to me, it's my favorite. I love Japan. 1135 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: You know, I've never been really never time gotta go Japan. 1136 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I know, Okay, got your next So what about you? 1137 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: Twenty four so far? Like what twenty years? It's my 1138 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 1: whole life. What has been a seminal moment for you 1139 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 1: in these in these last i'd say five six years, 1140 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean kind of just what we were saying, Like, 1141 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: I think overall, I would have never imagined that it 1142 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: would have been even just at this level, or that 1143 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I would have been in the place that I am 1144 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,080 Speaker 1: at today. And I always say, and I don't know 1145 01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: how it could be the corniest thing, but I always say, like, 1146 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: some of the most special things that I find that 1147 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: come out of my job are the people that I meet, 1148 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: the places that I get to go, and just the 1149 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: experiences that I get to experience. Because I know that 1150 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: not everyone gets is able to do a lot of 1151 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the things that I could do, and I try not 1152 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: to ever take it for granted. And everyone always says 1153 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: like grasp the moment or whatever, and it's like, how 1154 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: do you Like, I sit there sometimes and I'm like, 1155 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 1: how do I grasp this right now? Like it's just 1156 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 1: all gonna keep going. So I like to sit and 1157 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 1: think about things and just be like, I really am 1158 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: so fortunate and so blessed, even if it is just 1159 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the day or whatever. But like 1160 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 1: certain things i'd say, like I got I did September Vogue, 1161 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: which was really big for me a couple of years ago. 1162 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: I've done like I mean, the reason I started modeling 1163 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: was the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show, And I know that's 1164 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 1: very like stereotypical, but like I did that and that 1165 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,160 Speaker 1: was super cool for me, and just like that's like 1166 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 1: that's like, I mean for a model. I would think 1167 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: that growing up. You see those girls, You're always like, oh, yeah, 1168 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: those were like my superheroes. Yeah. I think it's just 1169 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 1: the overall like I really didn't ever and I had 1170 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: a lot of, you know, doubters, Like there was a 1171 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: lot of people that were like I'm I'm a very 1172 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 1: like competitive person when it comes to myself, and like 1173 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,560 Speaker 1: proving people wrong almost. So I really took that. I 1174 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: really was like, I'm gonna work even harder now, like 1175 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 1: keep the keep the haters coming, because I swear to God, 1176 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 1: it like makes it like fuels me. I'm like, okay, 1177 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,000 Speaker 1: let's keep it pushing. So I had like a lot 1178 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 1: of I didn't know where I would end up, and 1179 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I started doing it because I 1180 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,919 Speaker 1: wanted to be an example for little girls like myself 1181 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 1: that when I would look at you know, supermodels, I 1182 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: thought of them as superhero. So I'm like, I want 1183 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 1: to I want to be that example to other little 1184 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,880 Speaker 1: girls or boys. And so I felt like I had 1185 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,960 Speaker 1: I just I had this drive that I like didn't 1186 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 1: even realize I had. In the moment, I was just 1187 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,479 Speaker 1: like loving and having so much fun, and I was like, 1188 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: I want to do more. I want to do more. 1189 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: I want to keep going. In other than The Victoria's 1190 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,680 Speaker 1: Secret Show, what was the moment for you where You're like, 1191 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm doing this. So with The Victoria's 1192 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Secret Show being said, coming into it, that's what I, 1193 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, thought that I wanted and I didn't. I 1194 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 1: didn't do a lot of my research what models that 1195 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 1: I loved, and I knew a bit about fashion, but 1196 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't like super into it like that because I 1197 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: was kind of focused on my horses. So once I 1198 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: got into it and I was like, you know what, 1199 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: I want to do this for real. I want to 1200 01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,759 Speaker 1: do this big. I went to my agency, I got signed, 1201 01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 1: and they basically were like, you're not gonna do the 1202 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,080 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret Fashion Show right now, like we're gonna show 1203 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you this whole other world of like high fashion and 1204 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 1: just this these these amazing shows. And my first season, 1205 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I walked Chanel. So, I mean, I did a bunch 1206 01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: of other shows, but that was like really big for me. 1207 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: I never even imagined that was where I would be. 1208 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I literally was like like I don't care, like I 1209 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: want to do like whatever's cool, Like just send me, 1210 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 1: send me wherever I gotta go, Like I'll go do 1211 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: it and I'll put my my hard work into it. 1212 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: So getting Chanelle, I was like what the I was like, 1213 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 1: Holy Moley, like this is really happening. So I walked 1214 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: Mark Jacobs my first season, and so those moments were 1215 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: like really cool for me. I don't think people really, 1216 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,000 Speaker 1: but I mean I guess now they do because they 1217 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: can see more of it. But the energy that's happening 1218 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: in the shows and when you're backstage and it's just 1219 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,600 Speaker 1: like constantly moving and girls are constantly going, and the 1220 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: travel is insane. I remember being about nineteen years old 1221 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,440 Speaker 1: and I had flown all I was flying from Ireland 1222 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: to London to New York to la and back and forth, 1223 01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and I had to audition for almost famous. It was 1224 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 1: like one of those moments in my life where I 1225 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,559 Speaker 1: just didn't stop. And I remember being on a plane 1226 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 1: and I was taxing and I just like burst into 1227 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 1: tears because I didn't know my head from my feet. 1228 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,200 Speaker 1: And at this point I now could look back and go, 1229 01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, I was I just finished high school. 1230 01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot when you're that young and 1231 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: you're kind of you think you're ready for it, but 1232 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: then you're just living out of a suitcase. And I 1233 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 1: remember calling my mom. I was like, Mom, I don't 1234 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm like losing my mind. I don't know where I 1235 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: am anymore. And she talked me kind of down and 1236 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: made me realize that that's not that normal for a 1237 01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 1: nineteen year old girl to be traveling like that, like right, 1238 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 1: out of the house and anyway, I'm just wondering if 1239 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 1: you ever had moments like that where you I had 1240 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 1: a lot of crazy moments. I've always had, like, you know, 1241 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,040 Speaker 1: some anxiety, and I didn't even really know what it 1242 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: was when I was really young, but I think all 1243 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,720 Speaker 1: of this kind of really ignited it in me, so 1244 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: I really have So Okay, So that's sorry interrupt, But 1245 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I want to touch on 1246 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: that because I was reading about your debilitating anxiety. Yeah, 1247 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, because I think it's important, especially for a 1248 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,479 Speaker 1: lot of people. You know, you have however, hundreds of 1249 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: millions of people who follow you. These are the things 1250 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 1: that can really, you know, touch people and people can 1251 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: relate to. I went through it in my twenties, Yeah, 1252 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to sort of ask about that 1253 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 1: and what that was for you and how it manifested. Yeah. 1254 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,519 Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I've always had it and 1255 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,439 Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was because no one really 1256 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: talked about it when I was really young. And I 1257 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: remember going to my mom when I was super little 1258 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,559 Speaker 1: and being like, Mom, I can't breathe, Like I'm really 1259 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: short of breath. I feel like I can't get a 1260 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: deep breath, and she was like, I don't know. So 1261 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: I went to a doctor, my lungs checked, my lungs 1262 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: are fine. Whatever. No one ever told me what it was, 1263 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 1: and not even my mom really knew what was going on. 1264 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: She couldn't be like, Okay, you're having a panic attack 1265 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,000 Speaker 1: or you're having anxiety or whatever. So it was slight 1266 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,559 Speaker 1: growing up. And then, like I said, going into my 1267 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 1: job and just traveling NonStop. I mean I would be 1268 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: on eight to eleven to twelve hour flights almost every 1269 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: single day for seven years. Like I was like not 1270 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,760 Speaker 1: there was no stopping, Like I was losing my mind, 1271 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 1: even like missing the smallest holiday like Fourth of July, 1272 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I would like lose my mind. I'd be hysterical in 1273 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 1: my bedroom. Like but I felt I almost felt like 1274 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: I was like I knew I wanted to be there 1275 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,160 Speaker 1: because I knew that the outcome is what I wanted, 1276 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,759 Speaker 1: Like I wanted to do that job and I wanted, 1277 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,679 Speaker 1: but in reality, I was like, what am I doing 1278 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: this for? I'm nineteen years old? I'm eighteen years old 1279 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 1: and I should be having fun with my friends, Like 1280 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: why am I? What am I doing? Like I'm whatever? 1281 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 1: So I would just have these breakdowns and my anxiety 1282 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,280 Speaker 1: got really really bad. And I think that everyone uses 1283 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the word anxiety really lightly these days because it is 1284 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: a real thing. And I would get I would go 1285 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 1: into the deepest panic attacks where I would I'd have 1286 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,800 Speaker 1: people like rush me to the hospital. I'd be like, 1287 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die, like there, things are not going right. 1288 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: I got my heart checked, I got my brain checked, 1289 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: I got my lungs tipped, got everything checked to make 1290 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: sure that I was okay. I would I had these 1291 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: really bad attacks where I would someone my my Chinese 1292 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 1: medicine doctor guy told me that they kind of call 1293 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: it cave woman syndrome. Basically where you go to bed 1294 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,439 Speaker 1: and you think every you feel fine. You're like, I'm 1295 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: going to bed, I'm good whatever, I don't feel anxious, 1296 01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: and you basically wake up in the middle of the 1297 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: night with like complete like just anxiety. In the middle 1298 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 1: of you're sleep, You're waking up. I was screaming, I 1299 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: was couldn't stop like I could felt like I couldn't breathe. 1300 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: My heart was going crazy. I would just have these 1301 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 1: like frights whatever you want to call in the middle 1302 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 1: of the night, I'd call someone. Usually it was Shelley's off, 1303 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 1: and I would like, I'd be like, I need to 1304 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: come over. She was so nice. She would answer the 1305 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: phone every night at like three in the morning. I 1306 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 1: would go there, and all of a sudden, I would 1307 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: feel fine. And it's basically when I got robbed a 1308 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,760 Speaker 1: few times in my last house, and like stalkers and 1309 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 1: all these things. And it's basically when you go to 1310 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 1: bed and subconsciously you don't You're not even aware that 1311 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: you don't feel safe. So it's like when when the 1312 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:07,719 Speaker 1: cave men would go out to hunt and the women 1313 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,240 Speaker 1: would have to stay back with the babies. They would 1314 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: have that too, because they wouldn't feel safe anymore. Because 1315 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: prim right, how did you get through it? It's funny 1316 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 1: because I would only get it in that she realized 1317 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 1: that she needed to wake up and be like, I'll 1318 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: kill a motherfucker. So it would only happen in that house. 1319 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes on airplanes. I would have these weird things 1320 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 1: where I would like fall asleep on an airplane and 1321 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,439 Speaker 1: I would wake up like every five to ten minutes 1322 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,639 Speaker 1: with like full anxiety, really bad. So I had to, 1323 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: like I started meditating, and that was helping a lot. 1324 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: I started doing like a lot of acupuncture and like 1325 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 1: all these other things. Anything I could figure out would 1326 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: help me just calm down. But and then I was like, 1327 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I think I got to get out 1328 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,639 Speaker 1: of this house. I don't think this house is good 1329 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: for me. Something about the energy and just everything that's happened. 1330 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't feel safe here. Do you still have anxiety? 1331 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, for sure, I got this is 1332 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 1: just one example with something really gnarly that would happen 1333 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,719 Speaker 1: to me. So I ended up getting out of that house. 1334 01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,000 Speaker 1: And I don't have those episodes anymore. But I do, 1335 01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 1: and I haven't had a panic attack in a really 1336 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: long time, just because I've gotten I think anxiety you 1337 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: can't once you're having it. They say you just have 1338 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 1: to ride the wave. So it's not about getting rid 1339 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:15,960 Speaker 1: of it when you have it, it's about preventing it. 1340 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,880 Speaker 1: So for me, it was just about finding even if 1341 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: it was the littlest things like I have so many 1342 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,320 Speaker 1: apps in here, I couldn't even like I have a 1343 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: whole like folder in my phone, just like the apps 1344 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:29,800 Speaker 1: or the aromatherapy or the acupuncture or the meditation massage. 1345 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Once a week I'm meditating. We're little, Yeah, but I 1346 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: didn't know what it was. I mean now it's definitely way, 1347 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 1: way worse. Well, when I was twenty three years old, 1348 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: this happened to me, and it hit me hard. I 1349 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 1: was on the street and I felt like my heart 1350 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: was going to explode. I went down to a knee. 1351 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: I thought I was dying. Yeah, same thing. I got 1352 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,920 Speaker 1: tests hard everything realized it was a cute anxiety. For 1353 01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,479 Speaker 1: eight nine months, I was throwing up on the street. 1354 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I was getting nauseous and I would try to fight 1355 01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,839 Speaker 1: through it. And meditation was massive. For meditation and journaling, 1356 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, I literally I started journaling last year, like 1357 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,799 Speaker 1: beginning of the year. I all started reading, like physically 1358 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,040 Speaker 1: reading books, which helps me a lot. But journaling helped 1359 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 1: a lot, just to even even if I just write 1360 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,800 Speaker 1: down like little thoughts, like it's not even about like 1361 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: writing a whole story. But but yeah, a lot of that, 1362 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:18,600 Speaker 1: A lot of that helped me. And I am in 1363 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 1: a dealing with anxiety. And you're right, I think it's 1364 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,839 Speaker 1: used lightly now. The term is so it is a horrible, 1365 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: horrible feeling, you know what I mean. I think we 1366 01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 1: are living in an anxious world right now. I even 1367 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 1: see it with my kids. My oldest is going through 1368 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: it right now. He's going going through this anxiety. Yeah, 1369 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the phones don't help. I think we got to put 1370 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: our phone down. Yeah, we do. And I really did 1371 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 1: fall victim to being on our phones a lot. And 1372 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't think you should feel bad about it if 1373 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 1: you are, but I think that you just it's about 1374 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: being aware. Did you ever get to the root of 1375 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: your anxieties, you know, or really sort of think on 1376 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,599 Speaker 1: it and be like, I wonder where this is stemming from, 1377 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,800 Speaker 1: because it all does come from something. I think a 1378 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: lot of it, like I was kind of saying before, 1379 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 1: was true, mainly by like being overworked and I didn't 1380 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,640 Speaker 1: really have a moment for myself. So I realized that 1381 01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,600 Speaker 1: when I when I consciously kind of went to my 1382 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,880 Speaker 1: agents and my mom and I was like, listen, guys, 1383 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I love working. I'm not gonna stop working. I still 1384 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:13,640 Speaker 1: want to do it, but I want to be a 1385 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,560 Speaker 1: little more selective and I want to start saying no 1386 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: and being smart about my travel schedule and just like 1387 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 1: really planning things out properly. Once I started doing that 1388 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,720 Speaker 1: and taking time for myself, I mean even just like 1389 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the little trips that Courtney and I go on, or 1390 01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,360 Speaker 1: like or just being like, you know what I'm gonna book. 1391 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna book this holiday out and I'm gonna be 1392 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: in LA for this or I want to be here 1393 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. Just taking back control of my life helped 1394 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 1: me so much. Third Love their love Third Love makes braus. 1395 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 1: I've talked about this before. I love my Third Love. 1396 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 1: I love what they do to give back. First of all, 1397 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 1: this company is it's all about your intimate. 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So go go find out 1417 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: what your bra size is. Mine was actually different than 1418 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was, so right now, they're offering our 1419 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: listeners fifteen percent off your first order. So go to 1420 01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 1: third love dot com slash sibling now to find your 1421 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,799 Speaker 1: perfect fitting bra and get fifteen percent off your first purchase. 1422 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: That's third love dot com slash sibling for fifteen percent 1423 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:40,040 Speaker 1: off today. So your parents, you guys always had to 1424 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 1: have jobs, right. That was like one of the big things. 1425 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 1: Kylie and I were always motivated because we grew up 1426 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,120 Speaker 1: around so many like you know, our older siblings and 1427 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,000 Speaker 1: our parents, like everyone always had a job, so I 1428 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 1: think naturally we were really motivated. So they didn't even 1429 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 1: really have to push us into having jobs. We kind 1430 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 1: of just loved doing it. Right, But except you were clever, Right, 1431 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: there's something about a job walker and yeah, I used 1432 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,839 Speaker 1: to walk the dog, but you hired somebody. Yeah, genius. 1433 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Well here you want to talk about having jobs, And 1434 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,559 Speaker 1: then I could say my story. Sure. One summer I 1435 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,479 Speaker 1: was a production assistant on a movie. Okay, it was 1436 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 1: like a TV movie. My dad was friends with the director. 1437 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 1: My mom was friends with the owners of Guests, So 1438 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 1: I had to work at the guest store on Rodeo. 1439 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 1: Okay up. I usually worked upstairs in the men's section, 1440 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 1: but I am an expert T shirt folder now. I 1441 01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: worked for both my parents as their personal assistants on 1442 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 1: different summers, which honestly was probably where I learned the 1443 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 1: most in life, because I feel like just watching them, 1444 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: like what I was saying, like role modeling, and just 1445 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,000 Speaker 1: hearing my mom on the phone or my dad on 1446 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,960 Speaker 1: the phone and how they would talk to people and 1447 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,720 Speaker 1: get things done. Or I was in charge of my 1448 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 1: mom's Rolodex. I had to typewrite. She like was obsessed 1449 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,680 Speaker 1: with the writer. I had to use her typewriter and 1450 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 1: make her Rolodex cards when she got someone's contact. I 1451 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 1: loved deck. I remember the family Rolodex, and so just 1452 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: seeing how she organized. I had to do all of 1453 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,400 Speaker 1: her filing, her filing systems, and how she organized everything 1454 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,680 Speaker 1: and how she got her you know, errands, and I 1455 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: had to run all of our errands, go with her 1456 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 1: to Costco do all this stuff like just I don't know. 1457 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 1: It just taught me so much about how to keep 1458 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: a household, and especially my dad's. I was in charge 1459 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 1: during the OJ trial of organizing the mail into OJ's mail, 1460 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,879 Speaker 1: and it was into boxes. I had to do ones 1461 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,880 Speaker 1: with money, ones with that had a lead, ones that 1462 01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. There was like four categories, hate mail 1463 01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: and fan mail. I think it also like we all 1464 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: we were talking about how you haven't really been to 1465 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,439 Speaker 1: any of our houses, but we all, like, you know, 1466 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,720 Speaker 1: we just run our households a certain way, and you can, 1467 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 1: like you can see it. It's like literally a product 1468 01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,639 Speaker 1: of like what my mom has just instilled in all 1469 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,519 Speaker 1: of us and how we like run our lives and 1470 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,559 Speaker 1: how organized we are and we're just like we were 1471 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,160 Speaker 1: adults at such a young age thanks to our mom. 1472 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 1: And I consider it a really good thing. Like we 1473 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 1: just you know, we know how to like run shit, 1474 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: run yeah, yeah, run sh okay. And then so your dog, 1475 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,439 Speaker 1: your dog story real quick. Yeah, So we used to 1476 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Kylie and I used to walk dogs in our community 1477 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,960 Speaker 1: all the time. We would literally just like make poster 1478 01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 1: like flyers and like go to our neighbors' houses and 1479 01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 1: just be like, do you need a dog walk? Do 1480 01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 1: you near dog walk? And so it became like a 1481 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: little bit of a thing. And then there was this 1482 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: man in our community that ended up he was doing 1483 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 1: the same thing as us, and we didn't even really 1484 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,439 Speaker 1: know about him, and we found out about him, so 1485 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 1: we were like, oh, like here, like you could start 1486 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 1: taking the dogs whatever, and we would still kind of 1487 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 1: get paid for it. And then and then they ended 1488 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,680 Speaker 1: up like they caught me doing it on the show 1489 01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 1: at one point, Yeah, on the show. It was on 1490 01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 1: the show so so funny. I like, I like got 1491 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 1: paid for walking my dog. But then I would just 1492 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 1: go give her the dog walking my kid, Like I 1493 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,599 Speaker 1: guess I go. But I would be really entrepreneurial, Well, 1494 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I would like this. I would like the spirit of it, 1495 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 1: which is I've got the things i want to be doing. 1496 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to figure out how to make money and 1497 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: not have to do the work. I was genius at that. Well, 1498 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,800 Speaker 1: I mean I mean, I mean sort of oh, what 1499 01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,080 Speaker 1: do you mean now? No, but when I was a 1500 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: kid all the stuff. Let's talk about where did this 1501 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 1: come from? How long have you been doing it now? 1502 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,280 Speaker 1: And then what are your dreams for it? It is 1503 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: a lifestyle website that I don't know. I just felt 1504 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,400 Speaker 1: like when you think of even like the stereotype what 1505 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 1: we were talking about, how I feel like I'm you know, 1506 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 1: edited or portrayed on my show that I feel like 1507 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,559 Speaker 1: if you care about what you're eating and you want 1508 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,479 Speaker 1: to eat organic and be healthy and take care of 1509 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,400 Speaker 1: yourself and like wellness is important too, it was almost 1510 01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: to me like you couldn't be also sexy or cool. 1511 01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,160 Speaker 1: This lifestyle was kind of missing, I felt. So we've 1512 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:23,960 Speaker 1: been having so much fun with it. I do it 1513 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: with two of my best friends from high school, and 1514 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 1: it's been really fulfilling and I think there's a lot 1515 01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,639 Speaker 1: we could do with it. So we have a bunch 1516 01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,200 Speaker 1: of plans and is the platform? Is it? Is it 1517 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 1: an email? Is it a newsletter? Is it? We do 1518 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: have a newsletter that goes out. It's a free site, 1519 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,720 Speaker 1: which I had an application before we all did, all 1520 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 1: my sisters, but it was like you had to pay 1521 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,759 Speaker 1: to get the content. So this is all free content. 1522 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:57,160 Speaker 1: We've done some collabs last year with products that we 1523 01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: were selling on it, so it does have a shop 1524 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: shopping element, but it's mostly the content is what I'm 1525 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,679 Speaker 1: finding the most fulfilling. Fun Ready, let's do a speed round. 1526 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,479 Speaker 1: One word to describe the other cool you or me? 1527 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 1: You're okay? I was gonna say, kind kind of cool? Funny? 1528 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 1: Which sibling do you fight with the most, Kim Kendall do? 1529 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: I like? I feel like I don't fight with anyone really? 1530 01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Maybe I'd say Kylie for sure, Kylie, Okay, that makes sense. 1531 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:38,439 Speaker 1: Who has the better closet to raid? Probably Kendall. I'd 1532 01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:42,280 Speaker 1: say me too, Well, I can't really raid her stuff 1533 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 1: because her shoes are too small. I do have a 1534 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:48,600 Speaker 1: great vintage. You do? You have really good vintage? I 1535 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,720 Speaker 1: do have really good I want to come see both 1536 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:59,080 Speaker 1: of your closets anytime. Who's more bossy? Me? Courtney? Maybe 1537 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: not anymore? Yeah, I get kind of boss. I'm just 1538 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 1: freak like I just like I think Kendall is. I'm 1539 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,639 Speaker 1: going to change my answer, really, I'll take it. Which 1540 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: sister would you call to bail you out of jail? 1541 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:19,400 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be you guys. Chloe Kim oh interesting. 1542 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 1: I would trust either of them though, but I think 1543 01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,960 Speaker 1: Kim right now. Chloe's like Chloe would I feel like 1544 01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 1: Chloe was like legal professional. Chloe would probably find any 1545 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,000 Speaker 1: way she could be out of jail. He would dig 1546 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 1: a hole. Okay. Who is best at giving advice? It 1547 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: depends on what the advice is. For guy advice, I 1548 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,479 Speaker 1: think Chloe, but Chloe's is harsh, harsh advice, super harsh 1549 01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to relationships, like there's no tolerance. If 1550 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,439 Speaker 1: you want that harsh advice, if you want the kind 1551 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,879 Speaker 1: of on your same level, I would talk to Kendall. 1552 01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 1: And then if I want like fashion advice, I usually 1553 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 1: ask Kendall or like, if you really want to like 1554 01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 1: what photo to post? Maybe a Kylie so funny. I 1555 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: was pretty on point with it, though. Is that the 1556 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 1: same as you? Yeah, I mean I think relationship advice, 1557 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:24,439 Speaker 1: I'd say it does depend on what I'm going through 1558 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,560 Speaker 1: because sometimes you're like, Okay, this person I feel like 1559 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,719 Speaker 1: could relate to this situation. I wouldn't go to Kim 1560 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,519 Speaker 1: for relationship advice. I go to her sometimes if I 1561 01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 1: need to be like an the only one who's married, 1562 01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,160 Speaker 1: so we probably should. Well, now we need to have 1563 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Kim and Chloe on so that we Kim's like the 1564 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,200 Speaker 1: investigator though, like I could call Kim if it's like 1565 01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 1: the tea like drama, Like I'm like, ooh, I need 1566 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: to call Kim because she'll just like she'll vibe with 1567 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 1: me on the drama because she just loves the tea. 1568 01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,360 Speaker 1: But then, yeah, Chloe's super harsh, but I could call 1569 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 1: her to be like, what the fuck do I do? 1570 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 1: And She's like, Okay, here's what you do. What about advice? 1571 01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I would ask Kim. I go to Kim. Who's the 1572 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:09,519 Speaker 1: worst at keeping secrets? Who's the most laid back? Kylie's 1573 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,880 Speaker 1: pretty laid back because Kylie, like I said earlier, she's 1574 01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 1: just kind of like, whatever's gonna happen. Kylie's very non judgmental. 1575 01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,040 Speaker 1: If there was a stoner, who would be Kendall Am 1576 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,080 Speaker 1: a stoner? Really? Yeah, no one knows that. That's the 1577 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: first time I remember really said anything out there. Who 1578 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 1: is better at making decisions? It's definitely not I'm the least. 1579 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm super indecisive too, probably, but I'm the worst most. Yeah, 1580 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 1: you're really indecisive. Chloe is probably like we're going here. No, 1581 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: because Chloe doesn't really travel and stuff. Kim is, I 1582 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:50,519 Speaker 1: would say, maybe the most decisive. Yeah, you guys should 1583 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:56,719 Speaker 1: do well show. Yeah, you guys should do a show. 1584 01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: What she's like a show. On Friday, I was packed 1585 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,719 Speaker 1: with my passport in my hand, suitcases in my trunk. 1586 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,960 Speaker 1: I was going to drive to cop to the airport 1587 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,240 Speaker 1: to go with Kim and Kanye to Cabo for one night. 1588 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Walking out the door to my car, I saw Mason 1589 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,280 Speaker 1: in the hallway and I was like, Okay, Mace, I'm leaving. 1590 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: Mommy's leaving. It's like, Mommy, don't go. And then I 1591 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I don't know it to anyone. 1592 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to stay home like I'm the worst. Oh 1593 01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 1: my god, that's kind of how I am. I'll cancel. 1594 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:28,599 Speaker 1: I love that. Though I have plans, I hate making plans. 1595 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,719 Speaker 1: I cannot commit to me. I am the biggest planner 1596 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,640 Speaker 1: and I'm such a committer. But like this past New 1597 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Year's I had a real big just deliver yeah, And 1598 01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,720 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like losing my shit. I 1599 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 1: was like, I am so indecisive right now, I'm losing 1600 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,280 Speaker 1: my mind. I just not like, I can't even do this, 1601 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,760 Speaker 1: and I have this. This was muscle testing that I 1602 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,040 Speaker 1: was trying to teach Kendall, where you kind of rock 1603 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 1: back and forth in your body and you say yes, yes, yes, no, 1604 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,280 Speaker 1: no no, and then you ask the question and then 1605 01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,120 Speaker 1: you either it either pushes you to yes or no. 1606 01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:02,560 Speaker 1: And so I do that when I can't decide. I 1607 01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:07,639 Speaker 1: did that for Cabo. Really, I thought, your body, who's 1608 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 1: the messiest? If it's you too? Of all you guys, 1609 01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: who's the most rebellious? Chloe was? Chloe was? It's so 1610 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 1: funny because Katie Perry calls me the Patty Hurst of 1611 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:28,000 Speaker 1: our family, so maybe it's me. I don't know. That's 1612 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:34,640 Speaker 1: so funny? Fuck the kardash Who's the funniest of all 1613 01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:38,320 Speaker 1: you guys? Who would you say? Is Kylie? And really 1614 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I think I think sister dynamic robst I think Chloe's 1615 01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 1: the funniest sister. I definitely would not say Kylie. Really, 1616 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 1: I think Kylie's so funny, but I guess it's But 1617 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,320 Speaker 1: I think she's funny just as a person. But I 1618 01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,439 Speaker 1: don't think she's trying to be funny. I think she's 1619 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,160 Speaker 1: super witty. It is Kim though Kim's really witty. Who 1620 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:09,280 Speaker 1: wins in a fight? Too physical? No? I don't know, 1621 01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,600 Speaker 1: like girl like fight are we like your fighting? Like 1622 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 1: who usually gets the last word? M Who's like between us? 1623 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Are amongst between you guys and then everybody? I don't know, 1624 01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,640 Speaker 1: maybe me, I'm pretty stubborn. Yeah, but you also like 1625 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,000 Speaker 1: you also kind of at a certain point you're like, 1626 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: why are we having this conversation? I gotta go, you 1627 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you kind of like bow 1628 01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 1: outs are like piples. We just we like I like 1629 01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, when we when we? But when are 1630 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:44,479 Speaker 1: when our jaw like clenches down, it's really hard to release. Okay, 1631 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,320 Speaker 1: childhood crush? Did you have a childhood when you were little? Like, 1632 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's still your crush because he's still hot. 1633 01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:59,000 Speaker 1: Benny the Jet Rodriguez from the Sandlot. I swear to 1634 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,680 Speaker 1: God I have the biggest So we do we do 1635 01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,519 Speaker 1: this with everyone. So we'll start with Corney. If you could, 1636 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,920 Speaker 1: if you could have something that Kendall possesses, meaning about 1637 01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: like who she is, of a quality of hers that 1638 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you could take for your own, what would it be? 1639 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 1: I think her like I'm getting there, but like her privacy, 1640 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,200 Speaker 1: her real lack of not caring to share to like 1641 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 1: validate the moment mmmm and then and to alleviate from 1642 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:38,719 Speaker 1: Kendall's I think her like worry her, Like she worries 1643 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 1: about things that you know, ultimately probably aren't important. It's 1644 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:50,360 Speaker 1: very true huge stressor suss about everything. So one thing, 1645 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,640 Speaker 1: one thing you would take from her, her that you 1646 01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,120 Speaker 1: wish you possessed, a quality of some sort. I think 1647 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,439 Speaker 1: you're like cool and calm because like even if you 1648 01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,880 Speaker 1: do stress thought about something, you're still just cool and calm. 1649 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't do that. I just like 1650 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I spiral. I think I'm going to record myself in 1651 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 1: a freak out so all of you guys can see 1652 01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:13,160 Speaker 1: that I really do freak out. Well, then I wish 1653 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,640 Speaker 1: I could be as like, you know, like put it 1654 01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,040 Speaker 1: aside for like, because I can't put things aside. I'm 1655 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: very like if I'm freaking out, I need to like 1656 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 1: stay home and freak out. I can't just like move on. 1657 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,920 Speaker 1: And then something I would leave from her maybe some 1658 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,639 Speaker 1: of your insecurities. I wish I could like leave from 1659 01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 1: you because you're a bad bitch. Thank you, Okay, But 1660 01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,600 Speaker 1: then the last thing I would say is advice to 1661 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,799 Speaker 1: people out there who have the patchwork families like ours, 1662 01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 1: like yours, and you know what, like what's the glue? 1663 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: What would you say to people who sometimes struggle in 1664 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,240 Speaker 1: those relationships? But the glue is the love And just 1665 01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 1: like I was going to say that unconditional love, like 1666 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,680 Speaker 1: it's there's no you know, we love each other no 1667 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,200 Speaker 1: matter what, even if we fight, we would always have 1668 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: each other's backs. I think it's also just like understanding 1669 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:14,719 Speaker 1: each other and knowing that everyone has their own shit. 1670 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:21,400 Speaker 1: It's sorry no, butassionate, yeah it is, and just like 1671 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, and forgiveness totally. I think all of that 1672 01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:31,240 Speaker 1: just yay, yay, than you guys, thank you for having us. 1673 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 1: Sibling Revelry is executive groups by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson. 1674 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:42,720 Speaker 1: Producer is Alison Presnank, Editor is Josh Wendish. Music by 1675 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,639 Speaker 1: Mark Hudson aka Uncle Mark.