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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sorry, and I did meant breath control, not

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Speaker 3: How can I say this in in a nice way? Uh,

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Speaker 3: hormones are something that affects you for your whole life.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now now i's like hormones.

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Speaker 3: No, I not defend nobody.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hormones, we got it.

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Speaker 3: Hormones hombotic affect you for your entire life. You know,

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Speaker 2: But then like like maybe your beard will grow in

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, I mean certain things don't ever stop

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Speaker 2: It's annoying. Yeah, I mean, it's just part of aging,

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Speaker 2: I mean, this entire beauty for women anyway as a tire,

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Speaker 2: contrary to what you believe, rubbing Donald Trump's head is political.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, let's get let's get to LGBTQ news. Oh man, uh,

431
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: it's all harsh news, guys. I'm sorry, a mother of

432
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Speaker 2: a slang team to Trump defend all LGBTQ people, not

433
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: just my child. Yeah. Yeah, he loves to do the

434
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: individual case of faking empathy while passing policies that, uh

435
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: it exactly exactly they target at harm people. And there's

436
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: not even a there's not there's no there's not even

437
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: two ways to look at it. It's just harmful. Yeah. Uh,

438
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have to take it shouldn't take it, shouldn't

439
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: have taken, uh for a child to lose his life,

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00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: she says. Katrina Johnson, the mother of a gender floyd

441
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: teenager who was shot to death last year in Burlington

442
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: I Wall, appreciates President Donald Trump's Justice Department sent a

443
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: federal hate crimes attorney to aid the prosecution of a

444
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 2: man accused of killing the high school student, but Johnson,

445
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: who was no fan of Trump, wants the administration to

446
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 2: push for the rights of all LGBTQ people, not just

447
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: her child. This is another sid situation too. You're essentially

448
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: a victim of a hate crime. Your uh, your son,

449
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: she because I believe she refers to him as he.

450
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: Hopefully she's not miss gendering in this thing, but you

451
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: essentially are saying my son died. Now I have to

452
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: become an outspoken advocate, like I don't get to really grieve,

453
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: you know, same thing with that military family. You don't

454
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: even get to grieve. You don't even get to grieve.

455
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: You have to also end up becoming a fucking activist

456
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: by the nature of this dude being such a fucking

457
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: scandalous fuck up. Anyway, I love the fact that they

458
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: have interviewed, she told her posting a phone interview. But

459
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have taken for a child to lose his

460
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 2: life for everyone to think it was a hate crime

461
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: for them to step up and do something, she said,

462
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: using the male pronoun to refer to Kadarie Johnson. They

463
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: need to continue to do something after this cases over

464
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: turney Jeff's Sessions took the unusual step of sending in

465
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Speaker 2: a federal lawyer. I'm surprised he did.

466
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: That right because he gives zero fucks because they constantly

467
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: passing laws and said it is the wild wild West.

468
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: They help prosecute one of two men charged and killing

469
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 2: those sixteen year old lidcision surprised people familiar with the case,

470
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Speaker 2: particularly given that Sessions has rolled back protections for LGBTQ

471
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: people more broadly, For example, overturned the policy that encourage

472
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: the schools to lect transgender students use bathroom facilities to

473
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: correspond with their gender identities. Although several news outlets have

474
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: referred to Kadari as transgender, Katrina Johnson and the school

475
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 2: mentor preferred to turn gender fluid. Johnson said Kadari sometimes

476
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: like the wad girls clothing and go by the name Candice,

477
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: and they would go get their nails and hair done together.

478
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: But she compared Cardari to Rue Paul, referring to RuPaul

479
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 2: Andre Charles, a professional drag queen who is gay and

480
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: identifies as male. When Kadaria comes out, came out to

481
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: her as being interested in boys. She said she was supporter,

482
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: though she said some peers bullied her child. I had

483
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: to teach him and instealing him. Don't be ashamed of

484
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: who you are. Be who you are and what you are,

485
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: no matter what people say people think. Sandra Campbell, former

486
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Career Center coordinator at Burlington Community High School and mentor too.

487
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: Kadari said the team had a big heart and care

488
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: for a lot for others. If he saw someone crying

489
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: in the hallways of the school, he will always try

490
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: to go comfort them. He was comfortable in his own skin.

491
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: I tell you I have yet to meet somebody, even

492
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Speaker 2: an adult like that. Campbell said she was surprised by

493
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: the Justice Department's action because he's a kid, and I

494
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: would hope that something that would happen, and I'm grateful,

495
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: but there's so many people that this has happened to

496
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: and if nothing else, I'm hoping this will get some

497
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: recognition around in the United States that hey, this isn't

498
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: okay that people are getting killed because they're transgender or

499
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: gender floyd, or because of their sexual orientation. Yeah. Seemed

500
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: like a bare minimum fucking thing to be able to

501
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: agree on, but apparently we can't all agree. First degree

502
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 2: murder charges have been fouled in the case of Jorge

503
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: Luis Sanders Galvez, who whose trial is scheduled to start

504
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 2: next week in Jerondrel Purham, who is being prosecuted separately.

505
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: Department of Justice officials the clion to comment on whether

506
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: Paraz is aiding in the prosecution of Perim, for whom

507
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: a trial date is not yet been set. Ah, so

508
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: one they turn one dude against the other. They both

509
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: conspired to kill this person, a sixteen year old. Though

510
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: Johnson and others believe Kadari's mother was murdered was a

511
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: hate crime, the cases are not being prosecuted as such.

512
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: Under Iowa state law, the statue covers sexual orientation but

513
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: not gender identity. So there you go, like, U's not

514
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: a hate crime because it happened to a trans person,

515
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: because we're not going to recognize that trans people exist,

516
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: so therefore we won't even have to cover it as

517
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: a hate crime. Federal officials, though, have been investigating whether

518
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Sanders Galvez could be charged with federal hate crimes, so

519
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: they would like to be a part of the case

520
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: of the state's case for seamless prosecutions. Such shouldn't mean

521
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 2: in federal court be handed now handed down Amy Beavers,

522
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: the Des Moines County Attorney, said Curtis Dill, a defense

523
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: attorney who represents Sanders Galvez, and said the Justice Department

524
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: contacted him in July and the form of the investigation.

525
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: I was surprised that there's another attorney joining the prosecution.

526
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't have any effect on the way we're handling

527
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: our case. Sessions direct the Civil Rights Division attorneys to

528
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: dedicate themselves to proactively investigate a certain set of cases

529
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: of individuals who were murdered because they are transgender. Devin O'Malley,

530
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: a Department of Justice spokesman, told The Huffing and Post

531
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: this is just one example of Attorney General's commitment to

532
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: enforcing the laws and acted by Congress and the protecting

533
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: the civil rights at all individuals.

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00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: I have a question, I wonder, and I might be wrong,

535
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: and they're just my lack of knowledge of the law.

536
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: I wanted. The only reason why he's doing this is

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00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: because he has to maybe there's this particular statute of

538
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: limitations or something like that. Then after that is like,

539
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: fuck it, I don't care anymore.

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00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: My honest I mean, it's all speculation, honestly, because you

541
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: know this what he said doesn't make sense. My guess

542
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: is that like the Confederate statues, uh, they want these

543
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: cases to look like, oh, we tried with these cases,

544
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: so don't say when we roll back protections for transgender people,

545
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: don't say that we're transphobic, because look, in this case,

546
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: we tried, you know, and the mom in this case

547
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: addressed it immediately, like okay, but you pass laws that

548
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: don't protect trans people, but then you don't want to.

549
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: But but then you want to hop on board to

550
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: just for my child. What's the point of that, you

551
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like if I you know,

552
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: it's like men that are misogynistic, but then then they'll

553
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: bring up like individual cases of women that they don't

554
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: like they aren't misogynistic towards like I really support Hillary Clinton,

555
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: or you know my friend so and so and she

556
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: you know, I love her, but then the whole other.

557
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 2: But any other time, it's just a woman. They can't

558
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: they can't wait to not all men, and shit. That's

559
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: what it is to me, is these are banner cases

560
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: that you can go in and go. But look at

561
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: the accomplishments we had prosecuted these two or three cases.

562
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but we rolled back to law on that.

563
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like y'all, y'all don't believe it, Like, yeah,

564
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: this is like you said, this is just dressed up.

565
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean shit. But I mean, obviously it

566
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: means something to this one. But she's right. The bigger

567
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: picture is it doesn't mean shit. The Advocate had this

568
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: article by Ashley Marie Preston that says, uh, why are

569
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: we giving awards to Caitlyn Jenner.

570
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 3: Now?

571
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Actually Marie Preston is an activist transgender activist.

572
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

573
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: She says it's not only wrong to give an award

574
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: to the Trump supporter at as Saint John's Well Child

575
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: and Family Center plans to do is downright and Sultan

576
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: and I think this has always been a problem with

577
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn gender gender, My bad.

578
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: Correct.

579
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: This has always been a problem with Kaitlyn Jenner is

580
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: that she is at the forefront of a lot of

581
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: people's ideas of like, this is what trans people value.

582
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: This is a person we want to put on a podium,

583
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: we want to put on TV shows, and to a

584
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: certain extent, obviously, you don't control the media. You can't

585
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: make like you you know, and I guess not my

586
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: place to tell you what you need to decline that

587
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: interview because you don't, uh, you don't identify with the

588
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: majority of people in your you know. It's like me

589
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: saying Stacey Dash can't go on TV. That's not really

590
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: my problem. My problem is where's everybody else? Why Why

591
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: does this name keep coming up? Why is this the

592
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: name against the wars?

593
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 3: Why is this the name that the other women out

594
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: dan y'all ignoring the fuck out of those women?

595
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one thing. When was the SBI's right,

596
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: because like, I understand why you would give Kaitlyn Jenner

597
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: an ESBI, Like that actually makes a lot of fucking sense.

598
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: It's not like you had a lot of examples at

599
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: the time. This was a very prominent person that we

600
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: had all known as one way for so long, and

601
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: there's so much like speculation and discussion, and you know,

602
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: it struck a chord for inclusiveness in a way that

603
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: you know, I forget who the other person was up.

604
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: It was like a soldier who had lost a limb

605
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: or something, but it struck like it was definitely a statement.

606
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: And within the sports world after that, I don't understand,

607
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, you're not representative of

608
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: anyone's values. You actively support candidates and political ideals that

609
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: are against the rights of everybody within your community. You

610
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: yourself have problems even grasping these things. I know she

611
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: wanted to make her educational process part of a TV

612
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: show and that was gonna be a thing. It's like,

613
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: watch her learn about LGBTQ rights and stuff. But she

614
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: has lived so long with the privilege and with the

615
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: appearance of a white and a power, the attachment to

616
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: white male hood for so long. It's like, if anything,

617
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: is a case study on how it's almost impossible to

618
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: see pat your privilege once you have had it for

619
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: so long, Like you can't even process things the same

620
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: way a marginalized person can. So just flipping the switch

621
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: in the world like that you know, like whether it's

622
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: a I know it's not a switch inside, but switching

623
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: that flip, flipping that switch for the world where the

624
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: world goes Okay, now I see you as a white woman,

625
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: as a trans woman, all of a sudden, it's you

626
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: don't even conceive yourself that way. Because also she was

627
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: still allowed in places that they wouldn't allow other trans

628
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: women in right, specifically because of their attachment to her

629
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 2: history as Bruce Jenner in their minds. So to them,

630
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you can still go off with us. Well,

631
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: you're not having a typical experience. So of course when

632
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: you're talking on Ellen, you're fucking up. You're not even

633
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: living with the you know, you're still a rich person,

634
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: you're still a white person. You know, you're still connected,

635
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: Like you're not even living this existence in the way

636
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: that most people typically live it. So yeah, your politics

637
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: are not gonna be typical, you know. But at any rate,

638
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: I understand why people are questioning because now it's what

639
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen and you're still getting awards. How Like I said,

640
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: I understood the ESB. This isn't like a knock on that,

641
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: Like I don't have a problem with that but after

642
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: that it's over. That's a wrap, like a you are

643
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: a problem, you are a minis. You are actively hurting

644
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: and harming people by advocating for politicians that would carry

645
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: out agendas that absolutely would hurt people. And you're just

646
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: and motherfuckers still feel like, let's put you on a pedestale.

647
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand, but yeah, let me read this. Sorry,

648
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: I don't mean to go off on tangent. Kaitlyn Jenner

649
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: said this to Diane Sawyer in her twenty fifteen coming

650
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: out interview. What I'm going to do. What I'm doing

651
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: is going to do some good. We are going to

652
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: change the world. After two years a TV show, several awards,

653
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: cosmetic endorsements, magazine cover, speaking engagement, guest appearances, in a

654
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: book deal where she threw her family under the bus

655
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: for four million dollars in a number three sixty one

656
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: on Amazon's list, our confidence in Jenner has plummeted. Kaylen

657
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: Jenner's transition wasn't a pr stunt. The stunt was in

658
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: her financially forged relationship to the LGBTQ community and her

659
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 2: self assided role as gatekeeper and spokeswoman for the transgender community.

660
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: Kaylen has to come to Christopher Columbus of the transidentity

661
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: and that she sailed over into the community and attempted

662
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: to take complete credit and ownership of our movement. She

663
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: can't lead our movement when she's never taken one step

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00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: in our shoes and our experienced discrimination we have mounted

665
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: on our backs thanks to her political pen pals in

666
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: the White House. There's some ether right here. Any and

667
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: every opportunity Caitlin has had to truly understand the struggles

668
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: of LGBTQ people are up against has been met with

669
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: obstinate disregard, as she stayed in on Ellen Dejender's talk

670
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: show two years ago, the episode where she did the

671
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: limbo and revealed she doesn't get marriage equality. She's a traditionalist.

672
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: She is also a proud Republican and Donald Trump supporter,

673
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: even wearing a Make America Great Again had after the

674
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: Tyrant in Chief banned our people from the armed forces.

675
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: Her beliefs and views of the world are projected through

676
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: a lens of wealthy, white, privileged CIS hetero man with

677
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: the world as their oyster. But we are not props

678
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: or puppets for her propaganda, nor do LGBTQ, specifically, trans

679
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: people want her represented our interests. We don't need a

680
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: representative who plays step and fetch it to an administration

681
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: that has launched an aggressive attack against trans people and

682
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: trans members of the Armed force, trans children and transmembers

683
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: of the Armed forces, and reversed civil rights protections implemented

684
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: by President Obama. The LGBTQ community deserves leaders who don't

685
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: cringe at the idea of same sex marriage. Who deserves

686
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 2: leader who sees us as more than a tax shelter

687
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: and a press opportunity. Our trans women deserve role models

688
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: who don't shame them with passability politics and refer to

689
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: them as men in dresses. Most importantly, the LGBTQ community

690
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: deserves leaders who center our voices and not themselves. See

691
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: that's the other thing that Kaitln Jenner did. She tried

692
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: to be on something like I was on a magazine cover,

693
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: so that means all trans people were on a magazine cover.

694
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: It's progress, y'all. I got a book deal and Fox

695
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: million dollars, so that's like all of us got a

696
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: book deal. But it's like, you don't do shit for

697
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: nobody else, and then your experience never reflects or mirrors

698
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: the rest of people's experience, you know, And we're not

699
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: at a place where everybody's getting on, so it's not

700
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: so you are going to catch the flag from the

701
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 2: community when you step out the box like that, because

702
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: you don't have fifty seven people getting book deals, Like

703
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 2: there's like a handful of people that there's Laverne Cox as,

704
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Janet Mark, there's you, you.

705
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, like some of the most well known,

706
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: right and some it's like, but.

707
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: You're not getting a bunch of diversity of opinion, you know,

708
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: and yours really is a one percent or type of

709
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: opinion to this shit. So yeah, that's why you get

710
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: a lot of flak. And you know, and I say

711
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: all that without trying like no misgendering her, no, you know,

712
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: like you don't have to attack her name, call her

713
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 2: out her name, shit like that that so many people

714
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: end up going to. But you can look at her

715
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: politics and her fucking way she navigates life and be like, yo, you'

716
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: a trash ass person, period, you know what I mean,

717
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: Like you're not a good person, So you don't get

718
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: to prop yourself up like that. And the fact that

719
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: you would let yourself be used as a token. Like

720
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: I said, I remember wearing that make America Great Again

721
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: hat after the That was after Trump had pass rolled

722
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: back some initiatives. I was like, what the fuck are

723
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: you doing? Like, what is it gonna take? What would

724
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: it take to be like, you know what, man, maybe

725
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.

726
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: The pass the law with her name specifically owned.

727
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: It really would take the like fuck Caitlyn Jenner law

728
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 2: before she was like, you know what, all right, fuck

729
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: Trump And even then it'd be too late because fuck you,

730
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: because it took all It took a specific you. It

731
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: was always about you anyway. Sorry, uh, the greatest tool.

732
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn used the center herself as a Kaitlyn Jenner Foundation,

733
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: made up of white trans people and non representative of

734
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: the target demographics she claims to serve. The foundation is

735
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: humanitarian fraud in its highest form. Aside from tax benefits

736
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: and press notices, Kaitlyn has now used her foundation to

737
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: honor the seemingly most important person in our community, herself.

738
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Saint John Well Childer Family Center, a clinic that serves

739
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Speaker 2: the needs of the trans community, is presenting its annual

740
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Speaker 2: TransNation Film Festival in Los Angeles this weekend. The event

741
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: spans a couple of weekends and consists of several independent

742
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: film screeners, a pageant, and a fundraising gala on Saturday,

743
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 2: where Jenner is set to be honored for her role

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 2: as a trailblazer. Trailblazer and possibly the smaller amount of

745
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: money she donated to LGBTQ causes coincidentally or not. Zachary

746
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: Drucker is the director of CJF and the organizer of TransNation.

747
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: Let's be real, Caitlin doesn't give money for tardity's sake.

748
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: She's never written a check without being a company by

749
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: a makeup artists and the camera crew. Having this reality

750
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: star share the stage with someone like Nicola Creighton, a

751
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: co honoree at the Galleries and sold in to say

752
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 2: the least. Jasmine has been advocating for the LGBTQ community

753
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: through film, TV and nonprofit work for over twenty years.

754
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: She has appeared in numerous television and movie roles, or

755
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: her most recent betraying Bobby gen Walker, a prominent transgender

756
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: activists and religious leader, in the television series When We Rise.

757
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: As co producer of the play Lovely Bouquet of Flowers

758
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: and the accompanying documentary in full Bloom. She gives voice

759
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: to members of the community from all walks of life

760
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: and challenges viewers to move past their preconceived stereo types

761
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: and see our commonalities. In the documentary, Jasmine explorer situations

762
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: that are easily relatable to the transit of the community,

763
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: like family struggle, inter conflicts, coming out, surgery, hormones, and

764
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: the complexities of sexual identity and orientation. She works with

765
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: the HIV organization A p a I t A Testing

766
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: as a testing counselor. Her work, art and creativity continue

767
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: to inspire many. We don't need a self serving retired

768
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: Olympic champion to represent us when we have genuine champions

769
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: such as Jasmine and many others who've been doing this

770
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 2: work well before, well before it could score you a

771
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: reality show in a book deal. I've launched a petition

772
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: of urging Saint John's to stop this honor in our

773
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: community and resining Kaitlyn's award. This isn't about organizations taking

774
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: money from Kaitlyn Jenna, although I personally don't recommend it,

775
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: our petition is about rescinding her self congratulatory award and

776
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: not rubbing our faces in the fact that she can

777
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: force her way into power while holding us in our

778
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 2: narrative hostage. If Saint John's we're rescinding the award, this

779
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: could all go away, but instead we're likely going forward,

780
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: going to move forward with our intent to disrupt the

781
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: event from the inside while leading our demonstration from the outside. Yeah,

782
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean that's a read, but that's the truth, and

783
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: that that does make sense. That it's almost like giving

784
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 2: yourself an award, because who else. I can't see a

785
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: community of people choosing her, you know, without you know

786
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying out like a community of people within

787
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: her community being like, oh, let's award her. It had

788
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: to be manipulation of some kind anyway, because in.

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Speaker 3: Their mind they're like, Okay, you got this foundation, but

790
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: you have no women of color in your foundation. You

791
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: have no diversion in your foundation. It's like supporting whiteness.

792
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: That's all you're telling me that whiteness is the only

793
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: thing that matters. Right.

794
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: Ontario Minor Hockey makes transgender training for coaches mandatory. Wonderful,

795
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: so that's some good news. That is some good news.

796
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: Educational transgender athletes is mandatory for all Ontario. Ontario's Minor

797
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: hockey coaches, trainers and managers this season, the latest step

798
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 2: in a series of changes stemming from a human rights

799
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: complaint fouled by transgender team at twenty thirteen. A pair

800
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: of online training modules must be completed by or within

801
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 2: a month of the person being assigned to the team.

802
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Non compliance when he's the coach, manager or trainer will

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: not be registered by their minor hockey association. The Ontario

804
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: Hockey Federation, Hockey Eastern Ontario and Hockey Northwestern Ontario have

805
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: rolled out training materials on understanding discrimination based on gender

806
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: identity and gender expression, as well as a guide to

807
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: dressing room policy. If something new in our society, we're

808
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: just not used to it. It's good information to have

809
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: that situation where it arrived at Mitchell, Ontario bantam coach

810
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Tyler Tulton. Jesse Thompson, a transgender player from Austria, Ontario,

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00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: got the ball rolling on gender inclusion in minor hockey

812
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: with his complaint to the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario

813
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: some four years ago. Man took four years for this. Thompson,

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00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: who was seventeen at the time, felt being forced by

815
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: a league official to change in a separate dressing room

816
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: during the twenty twelve twenty thirteen season out at him

817
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: it exposed him to harassment and bullying. At the time,

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00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: Hockey Canada's co ed dressing room policy required male and

819
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 2: female players ages eleven and older to change in separatessing rooms.

820
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: The policy was applied basically anatomical sex, not gender identity.

821
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Speaker 2: Thompson's complaint led to Ontario's minor hockey branches agreeing in

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00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen to change dressing room policies and educate personnel

823
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: on transgender inclusion. A dress room dressing room policy implemented

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00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: a year ago state that athletes who identify as transgender

825
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: can use a dressing room corresponding to their gender identity.

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Speaker 2: This season's mandatory training makes understanding and accommodating trans athletes

827
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: required reading. It provides information on genders. Itself, explains what

828
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 2: gender identity is and what makes up gender identity and expression.

829
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Speaker 2: It provides information on how to provide an inclusive environment.

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00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: There's also an implementation guide that's been provided to our

831
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: on our website as far as stressing room implementation and

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00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: what you can do in that situation. Adapting the facilities

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00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: of varying ages and design may require advanced homework. According

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00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: to Tulton, every facility is different too. If you're going

835
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: to an away arena you're not familiar with that arena,

836
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: would have to know the situation as well. Hockey branches

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00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: inside Ontario have yet to adopt transgender policies. The issue

838
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: has yet to be tabled for discussion as Hockey's Canada

839
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: and your general meetings. According to a spokeswoman, this is

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00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: a model that was based out of our Ontario Human

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00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: Rights Commission settlement and applies only to Ontario. It's not

842
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: a Hockey Canada program. It's an Ontario based program that's

843
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: in place, saying that that may be an adaptation later on,

844
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: but that's up to Hockey Canada. So it's still just

845
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: in this one location. Well, I mean it's a start.

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Speaker 3: That's progress.

847
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: Four years? Who four years?

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00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: Progress is slow. I think people really don't understand how

849
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 3: progress is slow in something that you talked about before.

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00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: It's a disservice in our country, particularly all over the world,

851
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 3: when you really don't show how progress is slow. Shit

852
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: don't change overnight. It takes years. It takes decades. It

853
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 3: takes two and three and four and five, sometimes generations

854
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: before shit you actually see the fruits of your labor.

855
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: So you might beat the foundation of something and you

856
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: might not even see the fruits of your label. You'll

857
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: be dead and gone and somebody else will actually benefit

858
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: from something that you started. But it has to start

859
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: from somewhere to spark other people to continue to carry

860
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: the torch.

861
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Let's move into some other news. Guys. Nicki Minaj may

862
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: testify at her brother's child sexual assault trial for the defense,

863
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: So you know, testify, I guess on her brother's behalf. Now,

864
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: I will say this, I'm not one hundred percent sure

865
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 2: how that works. I've never been in a situation where

866
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: I've had to testify. Do they call like are you compelled?

867
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: Like?

868
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: Do they call you as a characteristic witness? And then

869
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: you show up? And because the thing is this also

870
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: means you get cross examinated by the prosecution as well.

871
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: Can you choose not to testify in someone's case? I

872
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: don't like, I honestly don't know.

873
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: The DNA if you have a choice that they'll be like, look,

874
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: you got to come to court, you get a subpoen

875
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: up going, you got to you got a choice. My

876
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: assumption is that she did. I don't think I person

877
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: don't think she would be willingly to do this. Somebody

878
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: was like, hey, you got to come to court.

879
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I just know I know enough

880
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: to know that I don't know to be honest, So

881
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you can just say I refuse

882
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: to testify or the whole time. Yeah, I don't know.

883
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 2: I don't know. A lawyer for Nicki min I's older

884
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: brother claimed the family or the accuser and his child,

885
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: and this trial is uh attempted to extort millions from

886
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: the rap star. I mean, here's the thing. If that's true,

887
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: then I guess she would have to testify if they

888
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: really did go we want blank millions of dollars or

889
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: we're going to accuse your brother of sexual assault if

890
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: that's true. So I guess the only way to know

891
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: is that she testifies at court that that's what happened,

892
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: which well, we'll see in the news by the time.

893
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: If that happens, we will see in it. I have

894
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: no idea what happened. I see a lot of people

895
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: having hot takes and they don't know what the fuck

896
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: happened either.

897
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 3: No, they don't.

898
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: The prosecutor reportedly maintained that the evidence proved Julani Mirage,

899
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: thirty eight, prayed on a pre teen girl for months. Yeah,

900
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: I think she was in sixth grade. We've talked about

901
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: this before. Mirage's trial began on Thursday, with his attorney

902
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 2: David Schwartz, telling jurors the charges were part of a

903
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 2: scheme to get money from Nicki Minaj. Mirage was arrested

904
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. According to court regoras, he's charged of

905
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 2: predatory sexualout against the child, course of sexual conduct against

906
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: the child in the first and second degrees, and dangering

907
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: the welfare of a child. He is pleaded not guilty.

908
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 2: He's accused of repeatedly sexually abusing a young girl, who

909
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: was then a sixth grader, for eight months, allegedly making

910
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: her his indentured sex object. Prosecutor said. On Thursday, the girl,

911
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: now fourteen, and her younger brother revealed alleged abused. Prosecutor

912
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 2: said DNA and forensic evidence corroborated the children's claim. According

913
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 2: to the paper, yeah, that's over and shut case if

914
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: that's true. And then also, this is the first time

915
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: I heard her younger brother too. They always made it

916
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: sound like it was just a girl, not that you

917
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 2: know that's not enough, but you know that's pretty damning evidence. Yeah,

918
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: Schwartz says it's all lies. The victims family tried to

919
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: shake her minage down for twenty five million, she alleged.

920
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: He alleges part of a plot. They made up the lies.

921
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: They wanted to make charge go away for twenty five million. Okay,

922
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: So here's the other thing too, because we should also

923
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: be prepared for this possibility. It's possible that both things happen.

924
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: It's totally possible her brother is a sexual predator and

925
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: that's and discuss it, and he needs to go to jail,

926
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: and he did this thing. And it's also possible that

927
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: the people around the children may have tried to blackmail

928
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj. I don't know, you know, I don't know

929
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 2: what the evidence is gonna say and what she's gonna

930
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: end up testifying to at what evidence they have, because

931
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 2: it would seem that if you try the blackmail for

932
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars, there's probably some record of however

933
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: you tried to contact me and whatever the black mail

934
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: demands were. If that's what she's testifying to, I don't

935
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: understand why people would be upset if that's what happened,

936
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: because you're just there to tell the truth. So the

937
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: defense called you and they go, hey, is it true

938
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: that your ass was asked to give twenty five million

939
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: dollars to this family and then they would keep this

940
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: abuse quiet? And you said no. Then I don't know

941
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 2: how that makes her a bad person for getting on

942
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: standing and saying yeah, they did that. You know, it's yes,

943
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: specifically for the fact that it may have been her

944
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: denial of paying any level of ransom that puts her

945
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: brother in jail, correct, which is another complicated step. You know,

946
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: like you had the money to pay these people and

947
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 2: you went no, which means you know, this is gonna

948
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: go to court. You know, this motherfucker gonna go to

949
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: jail the end, you know what I'm saying, Like I

950
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: to me, it would have been a little more fucked

951
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: up if she would have if this happened, if there

952
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: was ransom demands and she paid it to be like hush,

953
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: keep my brother out of jail. To me, that's more

954
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: fucked up, you know. Uh So, I don't know. I

955
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: just saw people had the hottest of takes and we

956
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: don't know shit yet.

957
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 3: We'll see particularly because like I said, nobody knows, you know,

958
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: how niggas get when it comes to tear the black

959
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 3: woman down about anything.

960
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, like I said, if she's up there

961
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: being like, you know whatever, you know, we'll see if

962
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: she's what her Let's see what her commentary is for

963
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: at least for me before I jumped the conclusion right,

964
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: And then you know, also, like I said, this means

965
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 2: the prosecution is a cross examine, I believe, So we'll

966
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: see what her answers are to that too, you know,

967
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: because that's the other thing too, This like proximity to somebody.

968
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how close they are. I don't know

969
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: what she knew when you know it and stuff, But

970
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: prosecution will find out or at least ask her the

971
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: right questions, and we'll see, you know, because maybe she

972
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: really didn't know that much shit. You know. I could

973
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: see you just out being a fucking pop star, and

974
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it's blam, your brother is

975
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: in jail and we need your help as a family.

976
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: It's like, well, what the fuck is this? You know

977
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: what I mean? Or even worse, hey, you got twenty

978
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: five million dollars so we can keep your brother out

979
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: of trouble. No, and what the fuck did he do?

980
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So I don't know. And

981
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: then people lied. We've already seen people lied about her already,

982
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: Like I know, people want to be on the it's

983
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: black and white shit. But her, they were saying she

984
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: paid for her brother's defense. When she did her mother

985
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: put her fucking house up to pay for her brother's defense.

986
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: Nicki Minach can't control that, you know what I mean.

987
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: But people were Nicki Minaj out here defending you know,

988
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: so you know, it does seem like people are jumping

989
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 2: in rather quick to be like this is how it

990
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: has to be. Fuck her, And I'm just waiting to see.

991
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens when when the trial starts or

992
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: when she's called to the stand, if she's even called

993
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: to the.

994
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: Stand, right, because she might not testify.

995
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did say may testify, So she may not

996
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: even testify.

997
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: It might be one of them things. But sometimes you

998
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: actually people write shit and they read what you rolled

999
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Sometimes people don't always come in.

1000
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's well, you know. The other thing is

1001
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: if she doesn't testify, I feel like a lot of

1002
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: people are gonna owe her apology because I see a

1003
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 2: lot of people just shitting on her because if she

1004
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 2: doesn't testify, that means even if they did try to

1005
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 2: extort her, that means she won't be played. She won't

1006
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: talk about it, which is basically just sitting her brother

1007
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: up the river. What she's probably going anyway, if they

1008
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 2: have DNA evidence. I don't even understand how this case

1009
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 2: is anyway. But the other part of this is if

1010
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: she does testify to the effect of she didn't know

1011
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 2: this nigga was doing this shit and she got extored,

1012
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 2: if that's all she knows, it's just all she knows.

1013
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know. It feels like you said earlier,

1014
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: one way or another, it's gonna turn into this is

1015
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: this black woman's fault and not this fucking sexual predators.

1016
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: Regardless of what the truth is, right.

1017
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 2: So, but but it's been that way for a while.

1018
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: I remember reading the articles that are like Nicki Minaj

1019
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: paid for her his defense, and I was like, fuck,

1020
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: for real, I guess that's complicated. And then you read

1021
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 2: like the retraction a few days later, it's like, well,

1022
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 2: no one's gonna know the retraction, right, Like, no one?

1023
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: We only everyone I guarantee. There are people listening right now.

1024
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: They went, They are like, no, but she did pay

1025
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 2: for his defense. Go look it up. I didn't know either.

1026
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: We definitely read the first one on this show. And

1027
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 2: it took months before someone pointed out, like, that's not true.

1028
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay, well, yeah, what the

1029
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: fuck's she supposed to do about her mom putting her

1030
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: house up?

1031
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1032
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. And in that case, you

1033
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 2: don't see people being like his mama fucking put her

1034
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: house up protecting this to because she's not the famous one.

1035
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: And we you know, so I asked to be nikkas

1036
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: fault somehow, right, But yeah, we'll see if it's true,

1037
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 2: because we don't know. Let's see what else happened put

1038
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 2: on blast. A designer ripped the sparkle off of Ashanti's

1039
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: shimmery cakes for returning a be splattered, a be spattered bikini.

1040
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to Bostle, only they can do it this way.

1041
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1042
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if people have been paying attention, but

1043
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, Ashanti is still fine as.

1044
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: Hell, ain't she though? Rounding now?

1045
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere around there, I still remember her being, you know,

1046
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 2: the woman in the jar ru videos. But yeah, Ashanti

1047
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: nearly broke the internet with her SHIMMERI so rock ad

1048
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 2: cakes recently, and now the people who let out her

1049
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: bikini has something to say.

1050
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: Can we see there?

1051
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 2: Okay, give me one second, I'll put it on screen. Sorry,

1052
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: my firefac fox is freezing and then moving, freezing and moving.

1053
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, the store owner who goes by aiden y.

1054
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: Yes, girlfriend, That's what I'm talking about.

1055
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: Posted and deleted some jazz at the singer for returning

1056
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: a filthy bikini. He claims he reached out to her

1057
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 2: team and the about the standing and had no response. Yeah,

1058
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: he said, you look beautiful in your News of Rock campaign.

1059
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: But I've tried the professional approach to reach out to

1060
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: your stylus and your team and still no definitive response

1061
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: about getting a reimbursement on the damage bikini your team

1062
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: sent back. It's unfair for small online business owners like

1063
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: myself to keep quiet at well you put quite, but

1064
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: keep quite and stay in fear of ruining one's reputation

1065
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: and losing possible clients when there's so much passion investment

1066
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 2: in hard work that goes into what may seem like

1067
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: a simple, cute, glittery bikini to some Yeah, this is

1068
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: that doing work for exposure thing. This that doing work

1069
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 2: for exposure thing, And sometimes people trick folks into doing

1070
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: like just do it for the exposure. It's like, hey,

1071
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: but this has costing me something and exposure ain't worth

1072
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: it if I don't get paid. The bikini, for example,

1073
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,720
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before, is all handmade. It took sixteen

1074
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 2: hours of labor over six thousand hand placed uh Swaravski

1075
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: crystals that I personally placed. This was a free charge,

1076
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: free of charge pool, and the bikini was to be

1077
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 2: used in another playing pool. Right after this project. I

1078
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: lost that pool. Followed with that, followed with a stylist

1079
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 2: I highly respect because the bikini was a turn damaged

1080
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: and unwearable. I've been fishing and chasing a diskoinnd of

1081
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: reimbursement that I still have yet to receive. Your campaign

1082
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: and yourself look beautiful, but I'm still getting brushed under

1083
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: the rug over something that only seems unfair. Well, listen,

1084
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you how you played this wrong. You

1085
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: should have immediately put a gently soiled Ashanti bikini on

1086
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: eBay because you could have got all your man me back.

1087
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: I feel like there's some freaks out there, and you

1088
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 2: totally underestimated the freak market because there's a lot of

1089
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of that's that, that's

1090
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: the thing, A lot of people. Okay, that's that's Japanese

1091
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: businessman getting underway out of machine right now. That would

1092
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: put it all on the line for a whiff of

1093
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: that Ashanti. Okay, I'm just saying you totally you totally

1094
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: fucked up dog. But maybe this was an ad. Maybe

1095
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 2: that's because I know that's what my black ass would

1096
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: be like. Listen, I got gently used Ashanti underwell Folk

1097
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: free folk for post it on eBay. Get the bidding,

1098
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: Let's go, thank you a shanty That's what I'll be doing.

1099
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: I'll just be holding up a plastic baggage like full

1100
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: of a shanty juice. Oh let's see here. Oh, so

1101
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: riz is back in the news for something that I

1102
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: thought we all knew happened last year, but uh it

1103
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: reserviced because he recently did an interview. Apparently the Wu

1104
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: Tang has a new album out to which yeah, basically

1105
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: so the Rizza had an interview on the Breakfast Club.

1106
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: By the way, this entire story is so bizarre to

1107
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: me is it's almost like proof positive of people like one.

1108
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: It's it's so many agendas floating like people. This is

1109
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: why nobody ever gets canceled. This is why niggas stayed

1110
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: getting multiple chances. Uh, you know, outrage, flip flopping, all

1111
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: that shit happening in the one collective story. So Rizza

1112
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,959
Speaker 2: was on the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne God and dj

1113
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: Emmy and Paula Angela yee right, and so in the interview,

1114
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 2: he admitted that Russell Crowe did spit on your Bank's

1115
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 2: at the Hollywood party last year. That was the party

1116
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: where we covered that on the show. She started acting

1117
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: real bizarre. Eventually got I don't know if she hit

1118
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: him or some shit Russell Crowe, but then they got

1119
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 2: into an altercation where he threw her out, he spit

1120
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: on her, and even me at the time, I was like,

1121
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: it's not that I don't believe is Zalia Banks. It's

1122
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 2: that it's Azalia Banks. So who knows what the fuck

1123
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: happened in that party? And yeah, like she continued like

1124
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: and this is the thing with her is so many

1125
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: she is a black woman, and so many people just

1126
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 2: have their team. So it's like teen black women, Bam

1127
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: the end. I don't give a fuck what they ever do.

1128
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 2: But she's transphobic, she's homophobic, she's violent, she's hit people,

1129
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: she's coloriss, she's like, she's a lot of shit Like

1130
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 2: she's she's the kind of person where it's like a

1131
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: broke clock is right twice a day and people will

1132
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: never cancel her because of that, you know, which is

1133
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: the same thing with Charlemagne, by the way, like, for

1134
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: to me, the same reason she's around with a lot

1135
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: of people. They don't even really like her music. She's

1136
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: just around because they like the idea of.

1137
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: Black Most people don't even know what that means to

1138
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: sound like, right.

1139
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: But same thing with Charlamagne though, right, it's the same

1140
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 2: people that go, I don't understand why there's a Charlemagne,

1141
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: uh for shit like this, Cuz there's other times where

1142
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 2: you're like, he's trash trash, trash, trash trash, Why the

1143
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: fuck do y'all fuck with him? And then he does

1144
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: like one thing right, and everybody's like, oh, I fuck

1145
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: with that dude, Glad he was there. You know, it's

1146
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 2: just a prism of blackness, right, Like when you don't

1147
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: when they don't agree, you gotta go. When they do,

1148
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: then it's cool, right At any rate, I remember back

1149
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: then the Riza being like, yeah, that shit happened, and

1150
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: I'm staying like he wanted to sign her some shit.

1151
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: He took it to this event Daga had an altercation.

1152
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: He basically was like, dropped her. I'm not signing her,

1153
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 2: fuck it, and which I'm like, why'd you want to

1154
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: sign her after all this shit? She's done anyway, But okay,

1155
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: you know where money can be made, money can be made.

1156
01:01:52,040 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: So this time, though, the difference is Charlemaine asked a

1157
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 2: question in a way that made it so that it

1158
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: was about like he basically was like, you allowed this man,

1159
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: this white man, to split on a black woman, and

1160
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: now it's back because I was wondering how I got

1161
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: back in the news. But it's Charlemagne kind of positioning

1162
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 2: the thing as a oh, so, what kind of man

1163
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: are you, as a black man to let this happen

1164
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 2: to a black woman in your presence? Because you know,

1165
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: Charlemagne is so good the black women. Remember the picture

1166
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 2: of Rick Ross and Angela Yee as fucking Charlemagne and

1167
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 2: Envy sat in the background watching this dude be creepy

1168
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: in front of her, Like the whole fucking thing is

1169
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: such a shit show of people like flip flopping on this,

1170
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: Like it's it's like nobody in the situation has any integrity,

1171
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: So everybody is just kind of like it's a it's

1172
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: a it's it's a roar shock test. It's it's that.

1173
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: It's the Oh I see an ink blot? Is it

1174
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: a butterfly or is it tohn lamps? Like everyone's just

1175
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 2: seeing what they want to see here, And I mean,

1176
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: I guess it's good for the clicks and everything. But

1177
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: his publicis released a statement that was basically like which,

1178
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the statement is simply that the Rizza

1179
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 2: admitted this. Last year. He did an interview with TMC

1180
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: October twenty sixteen, where he clearly stated that Russell did,

1181
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 2: in fact spit at Banks around the twenty eight second mark.

1182
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 2: He never denied that while there's no excuse of spending

1183
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: that anyone, you'd have to be in the room to

1184
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: witness the whole ordeal to see exactly why the night

1185
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: ended that way. Yeah, like I said, it's just it's

1186
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: everybody fucking up at the same time and me going Okay,

1187
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: it's just really what is happening? You know what I mean?

1188
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I Ozia Banks one of those people.

1189
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: I refused to step in front of the bullet for her.

1190
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: And same thing with Charlamagne questioning, the same thing with

1191
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: the rizzulds. To be honest with you, y'all, like for

1192
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: all three of them, Okay, happy fighting, but I'm not

1193
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: doing it. Let's see what else we got. Lapela and

1194
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: Niago revealed she was sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein. She

1195
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: said she was offered a role in a Weinstein co

1196
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 2: film and she declined. I knew I would not do

1197
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: it simply because it was the Weinstein Company, but I

1198
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: did not feel comfortable telling this to anybody. I turned

1199
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: down the role, but Harvey would not take no for

1200
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: an answer. While at cons, he assisted on meeting me

1201
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 2: in person. I agreed to do it only because my

1202
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: agent would be present and the meaning he was honest

1203
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: about intended to persuade me to do this movie. I

1204
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 2: told him I simply did not feel it was a

1205
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 2: role I needed to play. He said he was open

1206
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 2: to making it bigger, more significant. Maybe he could add

1207
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: a love scene, he said, if I did this one

1208
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 2: for him, he would do another one for me, basically

1209
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: guaranteeing back in the Star Vehicle film for me. I

1210
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: ran out of ways to politely say noing so did

1211
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: my agent. I was so exasperated by the end, I

1212
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: just kept quiet. He finally accept to my position express

1213
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: he still want to work with me at some point.

1214
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: Thank you. I hope so our lied then her past

1215
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: personal account was Our business is complicated because intimacy is

1216
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 2: part of part so of our profession. As actors. We're

1217
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 2: paid to do very intimate things in public. That's why

1218
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: someone can have the audacity to invite you to their

1219
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: home or hotel and you show up. Precisely because of this,

1220
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 2: we must stay vigilant and is sure that professional intimacy

1221
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: is not abused. I hope we are in a pivotal

1222
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 2: moment where a sisterhood and brotherhood or allies is being

1223
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: formed in our industry. I hope we can form a

1224
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: community where a woman can speak up about abuse and

1225
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: not suffer another abuse by not being believed and instead

1226
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: of being ridiculed. That's why we don't speak up, for

1227
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: fear of suffering twice and for fear of being labeled

1228
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: or characterized by our moment of powerlessness, though we may

1229
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: have endured powerlessness at the hands of Harvey Weinstein, by

1230
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: speaking up and speaking out and speaking together, we gain

1231
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: that power that we hopefully ensure that this kind of

1232
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: rampidt predatory behavior is an accepted feature of our industry.

1233
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 2: Dies here and now, God damn girl, now that we

1234
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: are speaking, let us never show up about this kind

1235
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: of thing. I speak up. I speak up to make

1236
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: certain this is not the kind of mis that deserves

1237
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: a second chance. I speak up to contribute to the

1238
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: end of the conspiracy of silence.

1239
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: Jesus, I guess you know she need to write for Sonny.

1240
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: For Sonny and which one? And oh oh yeah, oh yeah,

1241
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: that one hurts you.

1242
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: Uh, y'all fell and realized I was a huge fan

1243
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: of hers.

1244
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: I used to love to like.

1245
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 3: I said, she was one of the few black people.

1246
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 3: And when I said that hurt, that really really hurt,

1247
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 3: because the thing about it is that for her, in particularly,

1248
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie, a lot of people criticized

1249
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: her because she was a black woman and she's heavy,

1250
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 3: so a lot of times the way they clothe her,

1251
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: they would clothe her like weirdly like big stuff and

1252
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 3: just try to kind of constantly hide away. She almost

1253
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 3: like Rachel Ray, kind of went up on the way,

1254
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 3: went down on the way, went up on the way,

1255
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 3: went down on the way. You know, and you know,

1256
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 3: food never was predomini white, so getting a lot of

1257
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 3: you can see a lot of white people criticize her

1258
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 3: because of these things. And so it's one of those

1259
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: things where I supported her. You know, her food was good.

1260
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 3: I think I've even got a book or two of hers,

1261
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 3: And I think for me, it's very hurtful for you

1262
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: to say that because you were a victim, and so,

1263
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: like you said, it took the other people speaking up

1264
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 3: in order for your case to go forward, because if

1265
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: it would have just been you, a one woman show,

1266
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 3: nobody would have gave it a fuck wow.

1267
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: She found a way to make it about the women.

1268
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: By the way, there were two encounters. That was the

1269
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: second one. In the first one, she said that she

1270
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: left the situation. Another incident where they were at dinner,

1271
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: he suggests they go upstairs to a private room. She says,

1272
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,959
Speaker 2: if I wanted to be he said, if I wanted

1273
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: to be an actress, then I had to be willing

1274
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: to do this sort of thing. When she declined, he said,

1275
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: so we are done here, you can leave, and she

1276
01:07:57,880 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: also had that and this is the part to so hemily,

1277
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 2: but you had to she had to ask like are

1278
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 2: we gonna? Are we good? And he was like, I

1279
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: don't know about your career, but we're fine. We're good.

1280
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: So you know what does that mean? Like that's that

1281
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 2: implication of like I'm a torpedo your career, but you

1282
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,799
Speaker 2: know you didn't fuck me, so we'll see, we'll see.

1283
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: What happens, right, And that's the ship. Nobody wants to

1284
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 3: make him mad because he's so powerful, And that was

1285
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: that's what really really frustrate me about everybody with these

1286
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: quote unquote hot takes, act like this man didn't have

1287
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 3: no power, that like these women not making him mad

1288
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 3: could cost the end of their career. That you know

1289
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,839
Speaker 3: what I mean, Dad, Like you know how he feels

1290
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 3: and his mood twins couldn't make a break shit. And

1291
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 3: one of the things no means no, I told you no,

1292
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 3: My agent told you no. You're still calling, You're still begging,

1293
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: still pleading. You know you were overly all out of

1294
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 3: all the women you constantly you are pinpointed on me.

1295
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's that trophy ism too, because she was

1296
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 2: such a hot commodity, you know. That's that's the thing

1297
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 2: like people are. Like I said, I'm not saying race

1298
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 2: doesn't affect us at all, because it definitely does. It

1299
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 2: affects everything, even who can get in the room, who

1300
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 2: gets an agent, who gets the idea of being in

1301
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 2: a vehicle that can help their career. There's just not

1302
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 2: very many black women. But a predator like this is

1303
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: looking for desperation, so you just never know what the

1304
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: fuck he's into. So we can't just assume it's the

1305
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: exact same thing as sexual preference, like, oh, I only

1306
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: fucked this type of chick. Uh do you or you?

1307
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, can we say that with certainty? Or is

1308
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: it that he fucks anybody that he thinks he can

1309
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: make a buck off of that also has no power

1310
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: in the situation. And I don't mean fuck because he

1311
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: didn't literally fuck everybody. But he attacks these women because

1312
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 2: he know he expects them to be that desperate to

1313
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,879
Speaker 2: be a star. So it's like you better come upstairs

1314
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 2: with me. No, okay, okay, Well I'm gonna try it

1315
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 2: on the next moment, you know. And it got so bad,

1316
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: people just weren't going to meetings like it sounds like

1317
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 2: a lot of women just like whether or I just

1318
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 2: won't do any movies or demth So enough people knew

1319
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: that the reputation preceded him, yet somehow he still was around.

1320
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's now to get off topic. This goes

1321
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 3: back to Lapeta when a lot of people criticize her

1322
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: about picking certain roles and doing certain things.

1323
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: Why she keep working with Star Wars and Disney and

1324
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: she ain't on screen and all this shit and now

1325
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 2: she's like the Disney woman over there. She got like

1326
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: what three or four movies working with Disney now, right,

1327
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: And I think that.

1328
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:38,480
Speaker 3: That frustrates me, particularly when the criticism. And I understand

1329
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 3: because a lot of times when it comes to black women,

1330
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: black women feel a certain way, but also black women

1331
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: need freedoms, and a lot of times people act like

1332
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: a lot of times people that like, when it comes

1333
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 3: to black people, particularly black women, you should accept anything. Well,

1334
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: you're there, Just be honest and grateful that you're there,

1335
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 3: and just accept anything that they throw you. And you know,

1336
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: and they just put these ridiculous demands on you when

1337
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: you don't know personally if she wanted that role, if

1338
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 3: that role fit her, if her schedule would have allowed

1339
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 3: her to do certain things she may have wanted and

1340
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: to been like, Nah, it's a scheduling conflict. And I

1341
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 3: understand that there are some things that are race based,

1342
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but when it comes to that,

1343
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of that criticism to us, so,

1344
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 3: in my opinion, was completely unfair. We don't know, we

1345
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 3: don't know why she opted to do certain things. We

1346
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 3: don't know. This right here may have allowed her to

1347
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: enhance her career, you know, but we're so quick to

1348
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: want to because I understand that black women and black

1349
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: people want to see themselves and they want to see

1350
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: themselves representative, and they don't want to see a cgi.

1351
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 3: They don't want a voice, So I completely understand that.

1352
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 3: But you also got to understand that that's where a

1353
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: lot of that technology is going.

1354
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: So you have to be diverse.

1355
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 3: And she's work with the motherfucking best out there right now.

1356
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 3: Who wouldn't Who would fucking.

1357
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 6: Pass that chance to work with a living legend, who

1358
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 6: would probably go down as one of the best ever

1359
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 6: whenever he retires. You know, it's it's it's one of

1360
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 6: those things where yeah, you talk about Andy Andy circus.

1361
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I applaud her for making the decision that's

1362
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: best for her.

1363
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: Well, also though she still had other things in the irons, right,

1364
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: like you still had. She played the mom in the

1365
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: Chess movie Queen Queen of Cotway. Yeah, yeah, a lot

1366
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: of people didn't go to see it. You know, a

1367
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: lot of people, Oh we need representation that I'm away

1368
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: for the Star Wars movie. If you saw the Star

1369
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: Wars movie and didn't see Queen of Cotway, I mean,

1370
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 2: can you really even say anything to a certain extent, right,

1371
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: And that's problem you've spent Star Wars money. But then

1372
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 2: when it was Africa Chess, it was I don't need

1373
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: to see Lapetera. Well that's the one. She ain't got

1374
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 2: no CGI. But the other thing was that she still

1375
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: like she's one person. She has she can only film

1376
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: so many things. But then you have to think about

1377
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: this avenue that was essentially cut off to her, Like

1378
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: there's this that we would have never known about. If

1379
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: all these women had to come forward, we would have

1380
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 2: just been like, well, I guess the industry don't really

1381
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 2: fuck with her like they say they fuck with her

1382
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 2: but the only role she got to do was a

1383
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: waitress and fucking lim Neeson. Oh no, a stewardess and

1384
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 2: a lim Neeson movie, which she probably felt before Twelve

1385
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: Years Slave, Twelve Years of Slave and then cgi Star Wars. Well,

1386
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 2: we didn't know that there was a whole avenue of

1387
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: her life, basically her professional career that she had to

1388
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: say no because I don't want to fuck this guy

1389
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: simply to have a part, and who knows what influences

1390
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: he may have tried to have on her career, you know.

1391
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 2: And also a big part of the story that people

1392
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: didn't talk about is Weinstein was waning in power similar

1393
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: to Cosby, so his company was already kind of trying

1394
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: to freeze him out. And this is another way of

1395
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 2: being like, well, let's stop protecting them. Essentially that I

1396
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: feel like that's the same thing that happened with Kazi too.

1397
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: He once he had less power, it was easier to

1398
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: be like, well, no need to protect them. People had

1399
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: brought up that shit with them women before, you know,

1400
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 2: Hannibal Bers brought up in a fucking joke, and people

1401
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: were like, we're latching on this time because fuck him,

1402
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 2: he ain't got no power. So yeah, I think, you know,

1403
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people want to look altruistic in the hindsight,

1404
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 2: and but to me, and there's no way these people

1405
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: could have known. But I've just always trusted La Peter

1406
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 2: know better about her career than I do. Me too,

1407
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: So why would I you know, I didn't feel like

1408
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: you know, and she and she did interviews and she

1409
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: was like, no, these are the things I want to do.

1410
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: So to me, that was the end of it. When

1411
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: people were writing about like, oh, she needs to do

1412
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: this and that, and it's like, well, when the actress

1413
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: herself comes out and says, I like these roles, I'm

1414
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: learning some skills that I can use forever. This is

1415
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: what I want to do. I want to work with Disney,

1416
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: I want to learn CGI motion capturing stuff. I want

1417
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: to do this. I'm like, well, that's the end of

1418
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: it for me, you know. So anyway, let's uh, well,

1419
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of we already are doing it, so.

1420
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with those black people.

1421
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 2: Were just fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with

1422
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: fucking with black people. That's right, guys. It's kind of

1423
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 2: played the game that we all hate to play it's

1424
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: fucking with Black People the game. We go all about

1425
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 2: the globe, we find different articles that make us feel

1426
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: fucked with the black people and will side points. Scored

1427
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: from zill T one hundred and it was twenty five

1428
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: Today's contestants everybody hey, and one hundred for the one

1429
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: we just talked about. So apparently Complex Media is having.

1430
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: That's a website, news website, right, yes, a hip.

1431
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 2: Hop slash news thing. They they're getting the podcasting and

1432
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: YouTube shows now. I think they have every day struggle

1433
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 2: with Joe and then uh uh fuck. I don't I

1434
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: don't listen to the show, so I don't know all

1435
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: their names, but Academics that's his name, and I think

1436
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 2: they may even have a woman on the show. But

1437
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 2: it's basically like what do you call it? It's basically

1438
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: like it's basically like uh, first take, but with hip hop,

1439
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 2: a lot of arguing, uh spectacles, Uh it goes viral.

1440
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 2: People talk about it because they fight so much. Well,

1441
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: now they're having and then they had they started a

1442
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: show with Mia Kali for the porn star has two

1443
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: million followers on Twitter.

1444
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: That's why they were talking about Hood of It. I

1445
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 3: was like, why are y'all talking about this woman.

1446
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's known for like outing athletes who come in

1447
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: her d M s and ship like that.

1448
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it got called out for making black people yeah

1449
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: and uh.

1450
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah that was trash. Porn equality is my calls. Okay, people,

1451
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be fucking everybody wrong, fuck everybody wrong,

1452
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: don't just put the condoms on the black people. That's racist,

1453
01:16:58,720 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: right if.

1454
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: We gonna if we he gonna put condoms for everybody.

1455
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,639
Speaker 3: If not, we condom freedom.

1456
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you barely having good sex. But listen, I'm the

1457
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: Martin Luther King of condom equality in the porn industry. Okay.

1458
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: Uh but anyway, she so she and Gilbert arenas too

1459
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: well known trolls are gonna be doing a sports show.

1460
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 2: So that's the kind of ship that Complex Media is

1461
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: doing right now. Oh, we had to break. Let me

1462
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: go to the one to the next session. Be right back, guys.

1463
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: Togetherwhere that's gonna be interested. Honey, y'all be talking about

1464
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 3: them on ball Beat Sports. And uh, he is the

1465
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 3: king of motherfucking petty.

1466
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gilbert is just the trolley, is the trolls, you know,

1467
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: like that's his whole thing, is uh, like he CHROs

1468
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: his ex wife, he chrose his kids, he trows Nick

1469
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 2: Young's kids. The idea of wanting to tie your brand

1470
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: to him is definitely a it's a definitely a note

1471
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 2: that hey, we're we're just all about getting the clicks.

1472
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 2: But also the same thing with Joe Budden. You know,

1473
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: like at this point, Joe Budden's well way more known

1474
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: for his opinions on other people's popular music and than

1475
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 2: his unpopular music.

1476
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1477
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 2: Rachel Dolozou apparently was invited to be on a panel

1478
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: at Complex con. They're doing their own convention or Complex,

1479
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 2: and they had a poll, I mean, a panel that

1480
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 2: was supposed to be about some trolls coming. Now here's

1481
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 2: the thing. On Friday, when I saw this link and

1482
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 2: saved it, I was like, they must like this. Two things.

1483
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: The first thing was, oh, Complex must be owned by

1484
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 2: white people, because I feel like no black person, even

1485
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: in the name of troller, would even attempt to invite her.

1486
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: Right The other members on the panel were also trolls.

1487
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: Azalea Banks was listed as supposed to show up, and

1488
01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 2: you know, because of who Complex caters to, my guess

1489
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: is they expect a lot of black people to be

1490
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 2: at this event. You're gonna have Azalia Banks there, You're

1491
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: gonna have you know, who's homophobic, transphobic, all kinds of colorists,

1492
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: all kinds of fucked upness, right.

1493
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

1494
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: I think it was Spencer Pratt, who I don't know

1495
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 2: what he's what is, right, I don't know what his

1496
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 2: thing is. It was supposed to be. Uh, there was

1497
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 2: some like two or three other people that were on

1498
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,799
Speaker 2: the on the panel, and then of course Rachel doles

1499
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: out and Pharrell was supposed to host it for real

1500
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: Williams and that right there. Let me know, like I said, one,

1501
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 2: white people must run this ship because there's no fucking

1502
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 2: way that There's no way black people will allow this

1503
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 2: to happen. At this point, like I feel like the

1504
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: fucking it's been out. You know, we know that it's

1505
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 2: the the jury is in on her, so to say.

1506
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:00,599
Speaker 3: Now.

1507
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 2: The second thing is I went back this morning and

1508
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 2: Rachel dollars I was gone. So I don't know if

1509
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: they got enough pushback. I don't know if I was.

1510
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 3: Like that's not a good idea. How people protesting this ship.

1511
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I mean, was this always the goal?

1512
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: Like I think the whole panel is gone.

1513
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: Now you know what that would make one hundred They

1514
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 3: probably got so much push back, people go, I'm got

1515
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 3: Pye tickets to go see that bullshit.

1516
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, LeVar Ball is supposed to be at this this

1517
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: thing for another another panel called the Disruptors. So I

1518
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if they came to their

1519
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: better senses or money.

1520
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 3: Money. People's like money, no, when sponsors may have been.

1521
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, yeah, the whole yeah, the whole

1522
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: fucking panels gone, the whole panels. So I guess they

1523
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: decided enough people got mad. But yeah, they were gonna

1524
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: have Rachel Dollars out speak uh and Azalia Banks and

1525
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,799
Speaker 2: a bunch of other people about being trolled.

1526
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: And that makes one hundred percent sense. But to be canceled,

1527
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: You rather canceling now than have it and people show

1528
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 3: up and it's a ship show, which is probably what

1529
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 3: you want for the clicks and shit, yeah, or people go,

1530
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm not paying to see fucking Rachel Dolors out.

1531
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it was always a joke. I don't know. People

1532
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: make one hundred dollars to go see this shit. Maybe

1533
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: maybe it was always maybe that was the inside jokes.

1534
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 2: We're gonna be we're gonna be trolling, you know. But

1535
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: I mean they already had enough, you know, people that

1536
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: are already stars and shit that appear to be showing up.

1537
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why they would have to resort to

1538
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 2: that shit anyway. I'm looking at the list of people.

1539
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:48,520
Speaker 2: I mean, these are some big names, you know, So yes, anyway, ridiculous.

1540
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm glad it got canceled, But one hundred

1541
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: for the whole idea in the first place. Yes, fucking

1542
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: idiots man, And and yeah out, now here's a thing.

1543
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: If it would have been online video tickets or something

1544
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: like I gotta pay ten dollars to see this. Your

1545
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: boy would have paid the ten for this panel. I'm

1546
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: not gonna lie out. I would have paid the ten

1547
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: for the panel. I would probably up to twenty five

1548
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: I would have paid to see this one particular panel

1549
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: if it would have come together. So I guess I'm

1550
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: part of the problem as well, because that sounds like

1551
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 2: a certified shit show.

1552
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That would have been a purpose, right,

1553
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 3: You'd have been here to snapchat and stream it and

1554
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: post it on Facebook, because do one of those things

1555
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: where everything everything now is about going viral, and they

1556
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,839
Speaker 3: know this group of people would have definite listen listened

1557
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: to the viral shit.

1558
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I would have paid for that shit. I yeah,

1559
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: Joe said, And then you would be mad. No, I wouldn't, y'all.

1560
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't understand. Maybe you've been listening to this

1561
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: show all these years, would have common misunderstanding of me. Oh,

1562
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been mad. I get entertained at a

1563
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: shit show. Okay. I saw Geo Storm in the theater yesterday. Okay,

1564
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 2: I paid the full fifteen to see Geo Storm yesterday. Okay.

1565
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: I was cackling like a motherfucking food And everybody in

1566
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: the theater was looking at me like, why is this

1567
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: shit so funny to him? Because it's a goddamn comedy

1568
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: to me.

1569
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: Yes, Geo Storm with a Geo Metro trying to outrun

1570
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: the storm.

1571
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: It was outstorm. It was out running the storm. It

1572
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: was they had a self driving taxi out running the storm, Yes,

1573
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 2: dodging lightning strikes. Y'all missed the good I bet you.

1574
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: It was a classic.

1575
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: Y'all missed the good when y'all, I'm telling you, But yeah,

1576
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: I would watch a shit show. I don't give a fuck.

1577
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: They ain't got no reflection on me, you know what

1578
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: I mean. That's y'all looking stupid, and I'm entertained by

1579
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: y'all being dumb as fuck. I was like, ooh, I

1580
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 2: can't even imagine, just imagine what Ozia Banks would have

1581
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 2: to say the Rachel dollars out despiteer Man pointing spider

1582
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 2: Man so good. But yeah, one hundred for the whole

1583
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: idea is shit.

1584
01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 3: Yes, still one hundred for the idea.

1585
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Solange is in the news. She is upset with this

1586
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 2: magazine because they photoshopped her braid off of the cover

1587
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: on the Evening Standard. So the Evening Standard had a

1588
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: picture of her on the covers like a salone, you know.

1589
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 2: But she had done this really complicated braid that was

1590
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: like intricate, you know. It was like it basically made

1591
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 2: a halo on the back of her head almost. I

1592
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: don't know if y'all can see it in chat. Okay, Well,

1593
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: she saw that they edited photoshopped it out, and yeah.

1594
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,879
Speaker 2: She ended up responding to the cover's publication by highlighting

1595
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: the missing part of the braid. On Instagram Stories, she

1596
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: posted a segment of her interview where she spoke to

1597
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 2: the magazine about braiding. Braiding is important to those in

1598
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 2: the active is an act. It is an active beauty,

1599
01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 2: an active convenience, and an active tradition. It is its

1600
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: own art form. She adds, every black woman has a

1601
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: personal journey with her own hair, and for those that

1602
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: began in her mother's salon, which was a refuge, a

1603
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: spare bedroom, so to speak. For her as a young

1604
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: girl growing up, there was pivotal. I got to experience

1605
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: women arriving in one state of mind or leaving it

1606
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: in a completely transformed way. It wasn't just about hair.

1607
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 2: It was about the sisterhood and the storyteller. Being a

1608
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: young girl who was really active in dance, theater and

1609
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: on the swim team, the salon was kind of a

1610
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 2: safe haven. This She posted on Instagram a picture of

1611
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: the unedited photo, which captured dtmh. I would imagine don't

1612
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: touch my hair, the title one of her most critically exclaimed,

1613
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: So that that is so wild. They literally did touch

1614
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 2: up her hair and take it out.

1615
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they didn't want show it. They didn'tant to

1616
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: qute unquote the readers like.

1617
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 2: What was the physive about it? She looks beautiful. Yes,

1618
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: she does, like a fucking like Star Wars princess or

1619
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: something with the look at them earrings and then you

1620
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 2: know the whole like circle and spiral like.

1621
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 3: Because Solange's point is too black, they don't want to

1622
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 3: admit that it's too black, like like what other reasons

1623
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: if this was a white woman with her hair done

1624
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 3: like that, and there's no way in the world you

1625
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 3: would have edited that out.

1626
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh they love Oh they don't mind editing. I mean

1627
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 2: leaving it unedited. When white women get braids and they hair,

1628
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:21,719
Speaker 2: they want to call it white women in vitting braids.

1629
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Come on, So no, don't edit it out if that's not.

1630
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: The put she took. Yeah, Solange took the picture and

1631
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: it took the picture of the cover and did use

1632
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 2: the U the edit function on her phone to draw

1633
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 2: a circle of brown.

1634
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.

1635
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so or maybe someone else did. I think

1636
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: it's I think it's from her though, Yeah, it's from her.

1637
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 2: So oh no, no, no, I'm sorry it was a

1638
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: fan that didn't I'm sorry, not her. But yeah, that's

1639
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 2: that's so weird. That's so weird. Jesus Christ. It literally

1640
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: interviewed her about the braid, photo shopped it out and

1641
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: then sit up there like, oh, I love don't touch

1642
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: my hair. It's so beautiful.

1643
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 3: Right.

1644
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: So also this song is for us as white people.

1645
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: We claim it too. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

1646
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: So you're reading the article about her hair and her braid,

1647
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 3: but we don't get the braid. That's dumb. That's dumb.

1648
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 2: Now you got to make a new song called don't

1649
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 2: photo shop my hair. Come be hindred? Oh, same, masterchu't.

1650
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 2: The school district is sorry for a photo of a

1651
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 2: black girl on a leash? M What could possibly have

1652
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: what could even be the story?

1653
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 3: Nobody just raisist anymore?

1654
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Then you know that they have apologized after the photo

1655
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: appeared to show two white children old and Lisha's, attached

1656
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: to the black child. By the way, both of the

1657
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: white children had leashes attached to the black child, and

1658
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 2: the children were wearing seventeenth century clothing.

1659
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 4: Under fire for racial insensitivity, a Massachusetts school district has

1660
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 4: issued an apology for a photo that is circulated on

1661
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 4: social media appearing to show white children holding a leash

1662
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 4: attached to a black child. The picture features three third

1663
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 4: grade students posed with their teacher in seventeenth century wardrobe.

1664
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 4: The two white children are standing while the black child

1665
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,839
Speaker 4: is on the floor tethered in straps. In a statement,

1666
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 4: the Bridgewater Rainham Regional School District says the students were

1667
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 4: learning about colonial era clothing and were being taught about

1668
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 4: the tethering strapped used during that time period to help

1669
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 4: teach toddlers to walk. The statement also said without context

1670
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 4: added to the photo, it could be perceived differently, then

1671
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 4: explained the lesson was not intended to demean or degrade

1672
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 4: any group or person.

1673
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: You need to teach people history.

1674
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: I mean they were literally teaching history right there. Here's

1675
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 2: the thing.

1676
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't mean literally, I mean like textbook, pictures, video tape,

1677
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 3: b h ah track, like like LP show me like that,

1678
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: don't don't literally teach me.

1679
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 2: How am I, as a parent of this black girl,

1680
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 2: supposed to be expected to not put my motherfucking hands

1681
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 2: on you? Right? And by how is that possible that

1682
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to take this lesson and just go, oh,

1683
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 2: it's just a mistake, just an oversight.

1684
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 3: And I'm supposed to be colme. I'm supposed to be cool,

1685
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 3: and I'm supposed to be collected, and it's also one

1686
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: of those things too, to why there's a really really,

1687
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 3: really really big increase of people that's like, fuck it,

1688
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 3: I'm teaching my particularly brown parents. I'm teaching my kids

1689
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 3: at home, Like I.

1690
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Mean, and here's the thing. I do believe that that

1691
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 2: teacher didn't think, Oh, this is like, look, black girl

1692
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 2: on the leash, hilarious. I don't think she thought that.

1693
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I just want to be clear. I don't

1694
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: think she thought that because they took a picture of it,

1695
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 2: like they were so proud of this lesson. You can

1696
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 2: see it in her face. There's no like, oh, this

1697
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 2: is problematic. But part of the problem is that you

1698
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 2: didn't think about it right, you know, Like that's you

1699
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 2: know a lot of cases when we talk about racism

1700
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 2: and shit. I feel like people get this like tightness

1701
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,679
Speaker 2: in their chest when they're not black, you know, same

1702
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 2: way men get with misogyny that straight people get with homophobia.

1703
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:39,719
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, oh, I don't want to hurt anybody.

1704
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 2: I didn't do it. I don't want to do anything wrong.

1705
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: You know, I just don't understand. I just but that

1706
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: aversion to learning, that, aversion to even considering, is problematic

1707
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 2: in itself. Because you end up repeating this kind of

1708
01:30:55,880 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: behavior over and over and I don't trust you anymore.

1709
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: It doesn't even fucking matter at this point. I don't

1710
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: I literally, I am incapable of looking at this picture

1711
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 2: and going I give a benefit of adopt to this woman.

1712
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 2: You should be fired just for even fucking up this

1713
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 2: bad right. That's it. That's it, you know, I'll give

1714
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 2: a fuck it this coincidence or not. It just by

1715
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: the fact that the lesson even that we're gonna dress

1716
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: up and put leashes on people, I don't know. We

1717
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 2: can just learn about it reading a book. I don't know,

1718
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: like probably come up with other ways to figure this

1719
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: one out, you know, because regardless when this picture goes out,

1720
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 2: a kid on the leaves don't look bad to somebody.

1721
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna figure a way out for it to little

1722
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: fucked up. But just in general, as a black parent,

1723
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can expect me to just

1724
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,680
Speaker 2: come to school pick up my daughter the next day

1725
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 2: like everything cool, like we didn't minimum gotta have words

1726
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 2: at minimum, Like can I talk to you for a second,

1727
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 2: you know, Like I don't know, and I know it

1728
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: looks worse than it is. I do know, like it's that,

1729
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 2: it's the dove ad thing. I get it. It's context.

1730
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about the context.

1731
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:09,439
Speaker 3: Correct.

1732
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 2: The context is my child as a black girl in

1733
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: America and you put a fucking leash on her for

1734
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 2: some type of classroom experiment.

1735
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 3: Fuck that shit, right, right right? And that's one thing

1736
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 3: that blessed parents, because, like I said, I don't know

1737
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,040
Speaker 3: how I would respond to seeing this picture and knowing

1738
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: this my child or my child coming home and telling

1739
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 3: me that this happened to them. Yeah, and it would

1740
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 3: be one of the things where they would get tired

1741
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 3: of me because I would demand that she lost her job.

1742
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 3: I would be in front of that school every mother

1743
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: fucking day. Is the bitch gonna yet? Is the bitch

1744
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 3: gonna yet? It's the bitch gonna get because you do

1745
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 3: not need to teach nowhere?

1746
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. And like I said, and maybe I'm

1747
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 2: just uh compromised with my experience as a black person

1748
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 2: in the math, right, Maybe that's just all it is.

1749
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean because I rationally, I can understand the argument

1750
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 2: of she really didn't even think about that shit. I

1751
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 2: can understand, but.

1752
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 3: That's the problem.

1753
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: But god damn it. You should be thinking about this shit.

1754
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 2: I don't understand how how are we this far into

1755
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 2: Trump's presidency and you're not thinking what are the optics

1756
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: of this racially? You know, it's not that I don't

1757
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: trust that. You really didn't think about it. That's the problem.

1758
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 2: You just young. They never fucking think about us, you know,

1759
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: that's the that's part of the problem we act. Like

1760
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 2: Karen said, it does go to teaching people history, because

1761
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: if you knew your history, you'd be like, this is

1762
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 2: bad optically right, But we want white people to not

1763
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 2: feel bad when they learn, so we don't teach them

1764
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 2: this shit. And they think I'm colorblind. Listen, I would

1765
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: have had anybody holding the leash. Well, guess what, there's

1766
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 2: actually some scenarios where you shouldn't have people holding the

1767
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 2: leashes of other kids. And that's okay, And that's okay.

1768
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 2: A white at one hundred. By the way, I think

1769
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Karen already said her a white ex Tosa cop convicted

1770
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 2: in the death of a daughter's black boyfriend. They finally

1771
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 2: got that, nigga. We've covered this thing at least three

1772
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,559
Speaker 2: times on the show, right, this is the fourth trial

1773
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: he's had. This is the one that got him. He's

1774
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:17,920
Speaker 2: convicted of first degree manslaughter. He clearly killed that kid

1775
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 2: because his daughter was dating a black man. His daughter

1776
01:34:24,360 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 2: who was eighteen by the way, and this boy was nineteen.

1777
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 2: So put us some context, because all the other articles

1778
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 2: made it seem like, oh, well, you know, it's like

1779
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 2: this black boy took this young child from her parents

1780
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 2: and he's just a father trying to get his child back. No,

1781
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: he went Liam Neeson on on this dude because his daughter,

1782
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 2: a white girl, was dating a black woman, a black man,

1783
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: and he called him a whole bunch of motherfucking like

1784
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: racial epithets and shit, and then killed him in cold blood.

1785
01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 2: And three jerseys before this, when I don't know, that's

1786
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:04,000
Speaker 2: a tough one. And then they got him. This time.

1787
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 2: They delivered about deliberated about six hours before finding him

1788
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: guilty to a lesser charge in the August twenty fourteen

1789
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,640
Speaker 2: killing of the nineteen year old Germany Lake, who had

1790
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 2: just started dating Kepler's eighteen year old daughter. Didn't know

1791
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 2: it would be a deathtinist at the time.

1792
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: And my thing is, this is something that people have

1793
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: a tendency to forget. Kudos to that family that had

1794
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: to go through this motherfucking shit four times to give

1795
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 3: a goddamn conviction.

1796
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the family, the lawyers, the I mean, every the

1797
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 2: whole jer I mean, imagine how much extra money was

1798
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: spent in the justice system retrying this motherfucker four times

1799
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 2: because people refuse except the obvious fact he killed a

1800
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 2: black person in cold blood.

1801
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 3: Right, and a lot of people if you go through

1802
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 3: one time is traumatic enough. The fortitude that that family

1803
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 3: must have had to have go know you were going to.

1804
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 2: Be sture that you go to jail, and his juries

1805
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 2: before this and each other three juries, only one black

1806
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 2: person was on each one of those jurys.

1807
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 3: Hm.

1808
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then another racial element has recently been

1809
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 2: added to his case. When he argued that he couldn't

1810
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 2: be tried by state prosecutors because he's a member of

1811
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 2: an American Indian tribe. A judge determined the fourth trial

1812
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: in less than a year could move forward in the

1813
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 2: state court. He is one one hundred and twenty eighth Muscogee.

1814
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: He tried to throw that I can't I'm a Native

1815
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: American part of the tribe. Y'all, No, sir, his attorney

1816
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: said to twenty four, y'all, I mean twenty four.

1817
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 3: I guess him and Michael Focker both.

1818
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, him had they both were Blacktail magazine tribe. Kepler

1819
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 2: attorney said the twenty four year veteran was trying to

1820
01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: protect Lisa Kepler because she had run away from home

1821
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: was living in a crime ridden neighborhood. Nigga, you the criminal,

1822
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: so you brought some crime to the neighborhood. Defense attorney

1823
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 2: Richard O'Carroll said, Lisa abben in and out of a

1824
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: homeless shelter after her father forbade her from bringing men

1825
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: home into her house. Mmm what kind of men, wonder

1826
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: what kind of men would make you forbid your daughter

1827
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 2: from So she.

1828
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 3: Moved out right A grown woman was like, well, fuck it,

1829
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 3: I'm out.

1830
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: He told the police he was acting in self defense,

1831
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: but police didn't find a weapon on Lake or at

1832
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 2: the scene. Kepler retired from the force after he was harsed.

1833
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 2: He testified he shot Lake because he wasn't given a choice,

1834
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: that it was him or Lake, because that's what they're

1835
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 2: trained to say. Kepler said he pulled a trick because

1836
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,640
Speaker 2: he saw Lake pull a semi automatic weapon out of

1837
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 2: his pocket, so he lied. He just lied because that's

1838
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: what they caught to do.

1839
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 3: There ain't no gun, ain't no evidence of a gun.

1840
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 3: Nobody had no gun. But you what's happening here.

1841
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Every cop says they saw a gun and they were

1842
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 2: in fear of their life. Because every jury just about

1843
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: accepts it as reason. They don't need a weapon, They

1844
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: don't need any evidence that there was aggression of anything.

1845
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 2: Just he I thought I was under attack, so I

1846
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: killed him. Well, what it was supposed to do, black person.

1847
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty much a weapon in itself. Kepler

1848
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,200
Speaker 2: said he never felt resentment of hatred towards Lake. He

1849
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 2: said he went to the shooting scene to find Lisa,

1850
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 2: askid a return.

1851
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 3: Home, and so you put her out well after she

1852
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 3: ran away.

1853
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 2: Right, He said he saw people coming toward him after

1854
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 2: he pulled the trigger, so he got in his car

1855
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 2: and left left the scene of killing this man. Prosecut

1856
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 2: to said Kepler first watched his daughter in Lake from

1857
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: his SUV before approaching them on the street. Lake's art

1858
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 2: disputed kepitler self defense account and said has said that

1859
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 2: her nephew was reaching out to shake Kepler's hand to

1860
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 2: introduced himself with Kepler fired jurors in the previous three

1861
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: trials are dead like eleven one, which one was the

1862
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: one ten to two and then six six, forcing the

1863
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 2: judge of the club miss trials. Although they couldn't agree

1864
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 2: on the murder charge, jurors in the first trial convicted

1865
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: him of recklessly using his firearm. Uh you know what,

1866
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 2: he got convicted and that's still a fucking hundred for me.

1867
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why. Oh yeah, had reason to tell

1868
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 2: y'all why, But I'm always be fucked with by this. Yes, sir,

1869
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 2: this should happen the first fucking time, and it's still

1870
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:13,040
Speaker 2: a lesser charge. Uh all right, I gotta get out

1871
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:18,720
Speaker 2: of this second. This shit is killing me. Uh oh man,

1872
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 2: uh uh. Let's do some guest the raise, guys, Let's

1873
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 2: just do some guestorrais and get out of here. Good grief.

1874
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 2: Now that is time for some guests. The race. That's right,

1875
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: it's guest the race time. Now, that is time for

1876
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 2: some guests. The race.

1877
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 3: That's right, it's guest the race time.

1878
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: That's right, it's time for guests.

1879
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 3: The race.

1880
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 2: The number one game show going across all the podcasts

1881
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:49,680
Speaker 2: land where we read a play dude arka from all

1882
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 2: over the globe and we asked our contestants today caring

1883
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 2: in the chat room to guess the race, and all

1884
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: the people playing on races? All right, see who we

1885
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 2: got here? How about this one? A Toronto teen doctor

1886
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 2: Kitty performed botched plastic surgery in a basement. Say the cops?

1887
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 3: What?

1888
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1889
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 4: Oh?

1890
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 3: Wait?

1891
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 2: Am I still sharing my screen? I don't need y'all

1892
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: to see this?

1893
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't realize you were sharing it. My bad.

1894
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 2: A nineteen year old Toronto woman allegedly posing as a

1895
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 2: plastic surgery plastic surgeon and working out of a basement

1896
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: has been arrested. Muh doctor Kitty aka Jingy Kitty Wang

1897
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: was taken into cassidy custody on Friday, October thirteenth. That's

1898
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 2: being charger aggravator saw that the surgery she performed led

1899
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 2: to serious infections and the need for a corrective procedure.

1900
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 2: Wang did not graduate high school and has no official

1901
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,839
Speaker 2: training for the procedures she was peddling. She was arrested

1902
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 2: during a raid on the basement clinic she had allegedly

1903
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 2: been operating in, located under a private home. Wang services

1904
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 2: were avatars via a flyer in April of this year

1905
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 2: at a local restaurant in North Enditoio, Toronto, in the

1906
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 2: Ynge and Finch area. Young and Finch, I don't know.

1907
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: Police say the ads include a barcode to be scanned

1908
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 2: into a smartphone for more info. Ooh, that's diabolical right there.

1909
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. The face slimming injections was one of the

1910
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: procedures Wang allegedly offered The woman who fired a complaint

1911
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 2: against her that led to her arrest underwent a face

1912
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 2: filler procedure. The victim's name is not currently public, but

1913
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 2: police said she is in close age Dwang. Who knows

1914
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: how many other establishments at is placed in Toronto. Police

1915
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 2: spokesperson Allison Douglas Cook told The Toronto Start it's quite

1916
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 2: discreet how it is. So there's a possibility there may

1917
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: be others, in a very high likelihood that there may

1918
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 2: have been others who have who have responded to this

1919
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 2: ad in sought services of this person. Police believed there

1920
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:57,360
Speaker 2: were other victims. Guess the race of doctor Kitty aka

1921
01:41:57,560 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 2: Jingye Kitty Wang. Hey, Karen's going with Asian. Let's check

1922
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 2: the chat room and see what they believe. Revenge of

1923
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:09,760
Speaker 2: the North Vietnamese. Wang also served Wings and fried Rice

1924
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 2: out of the same clinic Asian Oh, bootleg surgery and

1925
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 2: c these Asian Asian Asian Asian shrimp fried Rice. Oh,

1926
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:32,040
Speaker 2: the correct answer is y'all. All right, she's Asian. I'll

1927
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 2: tell you this much. She had some nerve. You call

1928
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,679
Speaker 2: yourself a doctor. You ain't even get out of high school.

1929
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 2: I mean, shit, I guess due your houses did it.

1930
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,679
Speaker 2: But I mean the nigga went to college at least.

1931
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean, well, no, you graduated high school early, that's

1932
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 2: all right.

1933
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you graduated sixteen, seventeen, fifteen, whatever, twelve.

1934
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Something like that, right, doctor Kitty? Mm hmm.

1935
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 3: Don't nobody check it? We see if her license on

1936
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 3: the wall or nothing.

1937
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: Hell, you know they ain't checked you walking there and

1938
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 2: fucking seventeen year old got a needle like you do?

1939
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: What that was?

1940
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean the ad was on the damn telephone pole

1941
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 2: next to a missing dog probably you know what I mean.

1942
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in the racist way, So

1943
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,640
Speaker 2: please don't. I don't know. That's not how I'm in

1944
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 2: it or baby City services. Also facial injections from doctor Kitty, ooh,

1945
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:21,639
Speaker 2: I got.

1946
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 3: To also my house. Would you like to flip your House,

1947
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 3: followed by my Cats missing.

1948
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 2: Have you get my mixtape?

1949
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Get my mixtape. Oh.

1950
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 2: Also, I'm gonna get face surgery from this woman. These

1951
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:36,639
Speaker 2: are all good ideas.

1952
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 3: We got to al on tomorrow from from eight am

1953
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 3: to two right.

1954
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you must be out your motherfucking mind.

1955
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 2: I wish the nigga would talk about some damn face surgery.

1956
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: M Sorry, my candle went out, I need more pumpkin

1957
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 2: spice to get through the rest of your life. I

1958
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 2: can't get through the rest of it. Showed out this

1959
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: pumpkin spice smell filtering.

1960
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,280
Speaker 3: You had a pumpkin spice? What was that yesterday? Oh?

1961
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 2: I had a pumpkin spice Martini, y'all.

1962
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 3: It was actually pretty.

1963
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 2: I said, what's you'all drink specials? It was at the Lirity.

1964
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: She said, well, we got pumpkin spice mark. I said,

1965
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 2: I'll take that. I'm a basic bit.

1966
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 3: I know. She didn't finish what it was.

1967
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 2: He was like, I got it, don't even matter what

1968
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 2: that is, pumpkin spice me up. Baby.

1969
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:21,479
Speaker 3: It was actually good.

1970
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,040
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. I still gotta go order that pumpkin spice. Wine.

1971
01:44:25,160 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 2: Off for trying a wine cough.

1972
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 3: That's happening all right. And also I know, I know

1973
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 3: not to get off topic, but found out for when

1974
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 3: our fans did, Tangle wine actually sells non alcoholic wine.

1975
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 3: So for you those of you out there, go with

1976
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't drink, you can still get the discount off

1977
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 3: the non alcoholic wine and the cheese and crackers with

1978
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 3: usn't have a good time.

1979
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 2: Was it tasting, miss ad Oh, it was tasty? Mm

1980
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 2: hmm it was? It tastes like a milkshake?

1981
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 3: It did? It tastes like a milkshake with some.

1982
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Pumpkin spice in it. So good. A dad of two

1983
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,880
Speaker 2: fake terminal cancer and spent twenty three thousand dollars in

1984
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 2: donation money on booze, marijuana and video games.

1985
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 3: Oh shit.

1986
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 2: A man from Minnesota has been arrested at the Condon

1987
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: people into giving them money by pretending he had to

1988
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 2: have been diagnosed with terminal cancer, but instead he spent

1989
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 2: the money on video games in marijuana. Fairbault police were

1990
01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 2: tipped off about Jeremiah John Smith's callis scheme that saw

1991
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 2: him tuck his way into raising seven thousand dollars from

1992
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 2: donations through a gofundy page and further fifteen thousand through

1993
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: several community fundraising events. The thirty seven year old told friends, family,

1994
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 2: in well wishers that he was battling stage four cancer

1995
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: and had between eighteen months to two years of live wow.

1996
01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:38,679
Speaker 2: According to a criminal complaint as seen by KTTC, Smith

1997
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 2: even quit his job shortly after revealing his diagnosis. Investigators

1998
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 2: say Smith spent all the money from fundraisers, with some

1999
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 2: of the money going towards paying off four thousand dollars

2000
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 2: in outstanding bills. The rest were spent on alcohol, marijuana,

2001
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:55,879
Speaker 2: dark tournaments, and mobile video game cat Clash of Plans.

2002
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 3: Ooh shit that that thing they fromot on TV, ain't it?

2003
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 2: Yep, got all his though it is surprising, I guess

2004
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,519
Speaker 2: you don't expect to see people pretend to have a

2005
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 2: disease to try and make money off of it. Rice

2006
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 2: County Ortorney John Folsom told WCCO really.

2007
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,120
Speaker 3: Got diseases and shitting really dying.

2008
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: I'm fairly confident that mister Smith was the only one

2009
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 2: that was aware that he wasn't sick when they were

2010
01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 2: playing these fund rangers. He didn't really give it away

2011
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 2: to anyone. He was playing his part. He was acting

2012
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,719
Speaker 2: like a con man, he said. Smith's own wife, Amanda,

2013
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 2: became suspicions of her husband after she was unable to

2014
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 2: find medical records or bills that would back up his

2015
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 2: story about having treatment. He didn't tell his own wife,

2016
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 2: y'all wow, just begging to get caught m Compounding her

2017
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 2: suspicions was the fact that every time Smith had a

2018
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 2: doctor's appointment, he refused to let his wife come along

2019
01:46:43,200 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 2: for support. Walter to White on her ass, I got

2020
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 2: to do this by myself. You hear the man get shot,

2021
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: and you think me I am the danger. When investigators

2022
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 2: asked for his medical because he promised to turn them over,

2023
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 2: but he never did. When in when investigators met several weeks,

2024
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 2: Lady continued to stick to his story, telling them the

2025
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 2: Kansas spread to his colon, to his kidneys and bladder.

2026
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 3: The doctors would have had evidence of this.

2027
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, everybody would have had doctors bills. I mean,

2028
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:17,640
Speaker 2: ain't none of this free? Right?

2029
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 3: Come on?

2030
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 2: Eventually police obtained the search warrant to attain his medical records,

2031
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 2: which revealed he was not sick at all, at least

2032
01:47:22,880 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 2: not physically. The criminal complaint showed Smithy he usually yes

2033
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,600
Speaker 2: used some of the money to play video games like

2034
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Clash account clans and buy marijuana, as well as pay

2035
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: off some credit cards. That's what you should say. Oh no,

2036
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: the marijuana cure of my cancer, y'all say it's a miracle.

2037
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:43,360
Speaker 2: Drug legalize it. Police contributed over twenty thousand dollars to

2038
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: help pay for the I mean people contributed over twenty

2039
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to help pay for this, which again he

2040
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 2: blew on other things. Spend the money off people who

2041
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 2: contributed phil with trade, because how could you feel anything else.

2042
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 2: Smith now faces a feil in charge of theft by

2043
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 2: swindle and goes face up to ten years of prison

2044
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 2: if correct if convicted. Go fund Me is promised to

2045
01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,560
Speaker 2: refund all the donors who had their trash taken in

2046
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 2: the skin.

2047
01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

2048
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I guess the rights of mister Jeremiah John Smith.

2049
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 3: White.

2050
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 2: All right, Walter White, let's check the chat room. See

2051
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 2: what they believe. A white man who wanted to relive

2052
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: his frat boy days. No one cares about a black

2053
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 2: man dying. White John Jacob jakinhimer Lyne ass could only

2054
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: get away with this because mayo white. And now he'll

2055
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,799
Speaker 2: be danced, be on dancer with the mediocre white stars

2056
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 2: spending money on dark tournaments. Come on, buddy white right,

2057
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 2: Uh Coco, I mean Tom Hanks from the movie Big

2058
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 2: Fuck Being Honest white called donors all kinds of niggas

2059
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 2: playing calling white white, the male safe and caucasidy white

2060
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:55,320
Speaker 2: white but funking. Uh saltee fury line ass white. Oh

2061
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 2: my god, the correct answer is white. You all got

2062
01:48:59,040 --> 01:48:59,679
Speaker 2: young people.

2063
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 3: M h m hmm.

2064
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 2: I feel people was like, you know, you're looking kind

2065
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 2: of healthy for a cancer patient. I mean you ain't

2066
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,760
Speaker 2: losing no hair or nothing. Oh yeah, I do need

2067
01:49:17,800 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 2: to shave my hand. I mean yes, I'm keeymof starts tomorrow.

2068
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 2: So just you guys know how this is. Anyway, you

2069
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 2: got some more weed, I'm gonna need to.

2070
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 3: People's got thousands of dollars of goddamn medical billsiness they

2071
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 3: can't pay off, trying to get money to live and survive.

2072
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 2: Let me know if you want to play destiny later on,

2073
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be online. Uh so just uh the fact

2074
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,560
Speaker 2: that he lied to his own wife, well, I just

2075
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: want to support you and talk to the doctor. I mean,

2076
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 2: you think the doctor would want to talk to me

2077
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 2: about what we would need to do if something happens. Yeah,

2078
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 2: I don't think. No, I don't think they don't want

2079
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 2: to talk to you. I'll take care of it. I'll

2080
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 2: talk to them. It'll be fine anyway. Love, you go

2081
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 2: to work so I can play video. Guys, just treat

2082
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 2: my cancers. Think you all right? Bonus round and the

2083
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 2: race double up on saying the race. That's right, double

2084
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,880
Speaker 2: the points, double the race, and a bonus round against

2085
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: the race. So far we kars tu for two. Let's

2086
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: see see if you can finish strong.

2087
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:26,519
Speaker 3: Y'all.

2088
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:30,000
Speaker 2: Y'all, you never know what this one. You never know.

2089
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 2: Most people two for two. I think everybody's two for two.

2090
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 3: Uh.

2091
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:38,639
Speaker 2: An awkward moment happened at a church when a married

2092
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 2: pastor is confronted in the middle of church service about

2093
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 2: sleeping with a parishioner's daughter. Aw shit now, and it's

2094
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: caught on video. The video captured the awkward moment a

2095
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 2: woman stood up in the middle of church service and

2096
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:55,639
Speaker 2: accused the pastor, married a pastor of sleeping with her daughter.

2097
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2098
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 2: This is at the World Fellowship Baptist Church in Prince, Mississippi.

2099
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 2: Cam's going right, Going Black already. A woman stood up

2100
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 2: in the pews and made allegations from pastor Billy Walker,

2101
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 2: who have been carrying on? Uh, that he had been

2102
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 2: carrying on a fair with her daughter for three years.

2103
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: What yeah. Yeah. According to the woman, the pastor had

2104
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:22,080
Speaker 2: called the police on her daughter after she confronted him

2105
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 2: about having another woman on the side. So wow, was

2106
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 2: like the other woman, other woman. All right, there's video

2107
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 2: of this if you guys want to hear the audio

2108
01:51:33,680 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 2: to guess the right. Three years and I know about

2109
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 2: three years.

2110
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he already got ya.

2111
01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh we have a disturbance here at twenty eighteen. Oh,

2112
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: call police, is it? Call police on everybody? Mama's daughters,

2113
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 2: everybody communic And we don't have church?

2114
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 3: Amen? Amen? Amen?

2115
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 2: At this time.

2116
01:52:59,560 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 3: That you.

2117
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 2: People like ship They really was like, amen, were gonna

2118
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 2: still have church? Oh my god, in order.

2119
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Speaker 3: Hell, we ain't about to have nothing up in hell.

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01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 2: No, We're about to have Maury up in this bitch church.

2121
01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,120
Speaker 3: Were about to have a deliverance for you, pastor.

2122
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 2: Uh. But yeah. Accord to the person who uploaded the

2123
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 2: church the club, Pastor Walker's wife, Vivian, was sitting in

2124
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 2: the pews by the incident. Occurred. Mm hmm. Church money

2125
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 2: must be good. M all right, care I guess the race?

2126
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah black black, Yeah, because yeah, that's one of

2127
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 3: this one of running jokes like yeah, you bet be

2128
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 3: glad that that woman talking to you, pastor was saved

2129
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 3: the sanctified and hold the gold fill hounty because she

2130
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 3: might have jumped on you in the pool pit. And

2131
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 3: when to give a damn about you are your wife

2132
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 3: mm hmmm.

2133
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 2: H yeah, his wife went up with with up. I mean, listen,

2134
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,200
Speaker 2: I've seen that woman. His wife didn't want it with

2135
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 2: that woman anyway, right, and you got drug all up

2136
01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:02,559
Speaker 2: through the church.

2137
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 3: Everybody, come on, because I don't know you know the woman,

2138
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:08,640
Speaker 3: but you can tell in a black woman's voice that

2139
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 3: she was serious about it. And we's coming on, we's

2140
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 3: coming off. Would have been coming off now, only would

2141
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 3: a web been coming off. She was ready. She was like, oh,

2142
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 3: you come at me. We're gonna have problems up in

2143
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 3: here today. And it's one of those things to where

2144
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 3: it's a disgrace that you allow service to continue on

2145
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: as usual, like like this incident didn't even happen at all.

2146
01:54:35,480 --> 01:54:36,960
Speaker 3: We're not gonna dress it or nothing.

2147
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,840
Speaker 2: If we don't if we don't acknowledge it. Karen, it's

2148
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 2: like I mean, in a way, it's kind of like

2149
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: it didn't happen, you know, if you think about it.

2150
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 2: M M.

2151
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, co passed over here. You

2152
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 3: let something like that come out. They ain't got to

2153
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:53,680
Speaker 3: worry about who mm hmm.

2154
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they gonna down.

2155
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. You'd been like, hell, pull the police, police, mother.

2156
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: It's chugging the hell out of me in front of

2157
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: the whole congregation.

2158
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 2: The truth, tugg the truth. That's why I would have

2159
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 2: been like if I was sitting in there in the congress.

2160
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: We've been to have church amen telling the truth, tell

2161
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 2: the truth. Mm hmmmm nah that uh anyway. Let me

2162
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 2: get to y'all guesses. Okay, oh, there's a lot of guesses.

2163
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:44,840
Speaker 2: Hold on black Nigga ship. Woo you fitting the drop black,

2164
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 2: says Carol, Eddie Long's cousin looking for his wrap me

2165
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 2: in your torough moment because I'm busted with my hands

2166
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 2: in my cookie in the cookie jar called out by

2167
01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 2: Black Mama at church. Black. This pastor also wants to

2168
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,800
Speaker 2: eat Nicki Minaj's.

2169
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 3: Got about that.

2170
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 2: They have Martin Luther Kings fans. Black pimp in the

2171
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: pool pit Black, Jamal Black Briant, I mean Jamal Brian Black,

2172
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Kreflo Dollar, Lonnie Love, Leon Lonni Love, flying pimp and

2173
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: ass preacher Black. Turn to your neighbor asking if your

2174
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,960
Speaker 2: pastor slept with your daughter too? Black? Oh no, Satan

2175
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 2: Dabor Black Leon Lonnie Love put hands on sister Gina.

2176
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 2: That woman set me up, Amen Black. Some reason word

2177
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: got spoken today?

2178
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Black?

2179
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Uh police will I mean pastor will be back in

2180
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 2: a pool pit next Sunday? Black, Yep, nobody would canceled

2181
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 2: all that was Vissit was medea U Pastor Lonnie Love

2182
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:44,920
Speaker 2: Black Black. The upper room is not the only place

2183
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 2: he is going hold on And they wonder why I

2184
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 2: stop going church smut black Ship, I might go back

2185
01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 2: if they doing this.

2186
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 3: On world stole so I'm good.

2187
01:56:57,160 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: Shit. If I knew it was gonna be like this

2188
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 2: every week, your boy might, I mean, I might have

2189
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 2: to step up in there, a boss of headline. Should

2190
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:07,480
Speaker 2: I miss a little football over this?

2191
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 3: They're gonna like they're gonna be like past They're gonna

2192
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 3: be like pasta chopping cakes over of an underage girl

2193
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 3: and another.

2194
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 2: Woman this ship turned the green leaf.

2195
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,160
Speaker 3: Every week I step up in there like, oh, your

2196
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 3: boy is back.

2197
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: I have seen the error of my ways. Ship now

2198
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 2: getting past over that chicken. Let's give me some of

2199
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: that communion wine. Let's do this wed in greens like

2200
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 2: I wanna be like an artist. I mean Jerry, Jerry

2201
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 2: Cherry oh Man. Anyway, of course they were black cat that.

2202
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 3: Long gas name am Polstado by the rock face Baptists

2203
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 3: down by the river church. Yeah, they black.

2204
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 2: She showed up on behalf of her baby, who was

2205
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 2: already the other woman about the other other woman, good, great,

2206
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: that's a black story. Who I wonder when the other

2207
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 2: other woman mama gonna show up.

2208
01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 3: She need to come through too, right, might been in

2209
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 3: the conregation.

2210
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: The other other woman mama gotta show up and and

2211
01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 2: play some of that scissor. Oh look at this nigga.

2212
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,600
Speaker 2: This It looked like an oh, dirty ass preaching pimp.

2213
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 2: Ain't no facial hair either, mm hmm oh, like a

2214
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 2: old Oh y'all got money for rent and Netflix, but

2215
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 2: y'all come up in here, and y'all don't give past

2216
01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: the nothing. You don't hug my neck ass, nigga thirty

2217
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 2: as Jesus, so Jesus gay. That's that's just okay. Now listen,

2218
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:59,280
Speaker 2: when I with my other other family, we all know

2219
01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: that Jesus is straightened. I would never even joke like that.

2220
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 2: That's blashemous, Brother Rod. Anyway, all right.

2221
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 3: Pass the tize and please mm hmmm mm hm hmmm.

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01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't there give him a dime. You know that's

2223
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,400
Speaker 2: that old like uh, I mean, because if you know, see,

2224
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:34,480
Speaker 2: that's the thing. This isn't the sermon I necessarily want

2225
01:59:34,520 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 2: to see. I gotta see the next week's sermon. That's

2226
01:59:39,320 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 2: the one. That's the one that's gonna be flames with

2227
01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 2: my dog. He's gonna have to sing for his suffer

2228
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 2: that day. Boy, if he's gonna be talking about forgiveness

2229
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 2: and Jesus and all kinds of shit.

2230
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,640
Speaker 3: About as soon as I finished congregation, I want you

2231
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,960
Speaker 3: to know, don't think it's strange that the sheriff depart.

2232
02:00:00,320 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 3: That's outside right now. Round it up. They just gonna

2233
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 3: give me ten more minutes to wrap this service up,

2234
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna turn it over the co pastor.

2235
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 2: Listen, that motherfucker's gonna be up in there like ooh,

2236
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,440
Speaker 2: he gonna he gonna deliver one for the ages. You know,

2237
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:20,200
Speaker 2: our pastor's supposed to have a nice car and not

2238
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 2: get bitches. Come on, y'all, the Lord, the Lord said,

2239
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: we're supposed to have multitude, be fruitful and multiply. Well,

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02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 2: I did some multiplications, and I could multiply even better

2241
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 2: with more wives. You know, Solomon had many wives. Okay,

2242
02:00:36,200 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 2: And I'm a man with a heart after the Lord.

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02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 3: That is all.

2244
02:00:40,120 --> 02:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I lay my hands on many pastors. This

2245
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,440
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. Can you dig that?

2246
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

2247
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, y'all get offended that Jesus was gay

2248
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 2: and y'all worship him. So now you're gonna have to

2249
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 2: be a little offended that I got three women. I'm

2250
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 2: so straight. I got families on families on families.

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02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 3: My niggs, that woman was interrupted. He was getting ready

2252
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 3: for the three o'clock service, and she was stalling.

2253
02:01:08,360 --> 02:01:11,480
Speaker 2: Right now, anybody else got in the cute daughters up

2254
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 2: in the congregation, because I mean, you know, pastor looking

2255
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:16,880
Speaker 2: for a new one. I got a position that's open

2256
02:01:17,640 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 2: in mine house.

2257
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,880
Speaker 3: We're getting ready to revival too. Yes, I'm getting rid

2258
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:26,040
Speaker 3: of Red the revived. This Penis. Y'all, ain'tybody want to

2259
02:01:26,080 --> 02:01:26,680
Speaker 3: revive it for me?

2260
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,600
Speaker 2: I will be receiving volunteers in my chambers today, is

2261
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Ladies.

2262
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get, I get. The ladies hold their hands

2263
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:35,280
Speaker 3: on you.

2264
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 2: Anyway. A man was slashing the face with a sword

2265
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 2: downer attacking a flat they saw. It happened on South

2266
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 2: Street and Greenock Inverclyde on ten at ten pm on Monday.

2267
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 2: They forced their way into the house before the attack

2268
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 2: was carried out. The man had said to have been

2269
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:56,200
Speaker 2: bleeding severely throughout the whole incident. He was taking the

2270
02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 2: hospital cuts on his face and later released. And that's

2271
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 2: all they the detail they got.

2272
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 3: That woman didn't come up there with the sword of

2273
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,320
Speaker 3: the one hundred ways she was talking her. She just

2274
02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 3: sliced them up.

2275
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 2: I know, man, I'm trying to imagine how low things

2276
02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 2: got to get for me to go to church on

2277
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 2: my daughter's behalf, to be like nigga, you a fuck

2278
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 2: nigga in the middle.

2279
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to be. I'm mad because I got

2280
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 3: to show up in the first place.

2281
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:25,080
Speaker 2: Next week gotta be just.

2282
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 3: I know.

2283
02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 2: You guys have seen the news and you can't believe

2284
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:33,240
Speaker 2: everything you read. Okay. By the way, the sister who

2285
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 2: recorded it surreptitiously. One she was fine, just as a

2286
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 2: note be some fine women in church. But two she

2287
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 2: was trying to hold her laugh in and she was

2288
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 2: feeling so the way she filmed it, she first she

2289
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,440
Speaker 2: had the phone in her laugh because she ain't want to,

2290
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, the woman to see her feeling her, which

2291
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:56,440
Speaker 2: gave us a direct shot of the titties, by the way,

2292
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 2: thank you. Then she did it like she was she

2293
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:00,480
Speaker 2: put it up to a faith. It's like she was

2294
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 2: using it as a mirror to straighten her hair. But

2295
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 2: she was just recording the woman being mad. And then

2296
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,000
Speaker 2: at the end where the pastor tried to keep going,

2297
02:03:08,360 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 2: she was holding in her laugh. I want to be

2298
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 2: her best friend, Like I that's me because that was

2299
02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 2: that I was like, I was like, yep, MVP, that's

2300
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 2: how ridiculous that was. I know she was talking ship

2301
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:23,200
Speaker 2: during the church. She probably know everybody's secret. So I

2302
02:03:23,280 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 2: mean she was the quickest with the phone, like oh

2303
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 2: she was ready that. Yeah, she must have saying ooh,

2304
02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 2: here come miss Barbara. I already knew.

2305
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 3: I already knew what was popping off when she's seen up.

2306
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:34,560
Speaker 2: Let me turn this video miss Barbara on the camera

2307
02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:37,760
Speaker 2: here for one thing. Instagram map open girl, you know

2308
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 2: you know her daughter fucking the pastor right, and then

2309
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:43,920
Speaker 2: he called the police on him. He can't call the

2310
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 2: police on the mama, the fuck boy, I tell you,

2311
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:51,000
Speaker 2: and y'all mad that I don't believe. How's that possible?

2312
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 2: Everybody in that church to stop believing?

2313
02:03:53,480 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 3: Right then?

2314
02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 2: Like this saint bullshit, get my money back, you know.

2315
02:03:58,080 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 2: But they gonna be back next week. That's the worst part.

2316
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the best show in town. It's gonna

2317
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 2: be the best today. Is lit up in there today, sir. Oh,

2318
02:04:08,680 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 2: I hope that girl. I hope that woman in the

2319
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,360
Speaker 2: video is live streaming today, sir.

2320
02:04:12,600 --> 02:04:15,320
Speaker 3: Because it's gonna be like that that they said that

2321
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:19,560
Speaker 3: the Circus the best, the greatest show on earth.

2322
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:23,120
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good Instagram story today. What I'm saying,

2323
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:25,960
Speaker 2: so all right, guys and man, we'll be back next week,

2324
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 2: thank you so much for I mean tomorrow, I'm.

2325
02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:29,200
Speaker 3: About saying we already into the week.

2326
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 2: I made a mistake. Sorry, y'all. We'll be back tomorrow

2327
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:39,120
Speaker 2: with more. What this was until then Walking Dad is back,

2328
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 2: but we reviewing it tonight.

2329
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 3: No, we're not.

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Speaker 2: Later in the week letting people keeping up. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't wait Season eight. They're gonna be killing people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So we'll be recording that later on this week.

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Speaker 2: Yep, all right, y'all. We'll talk to y'all then until tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Love you, I love you to