WEBVTT - Almost Famous OG: Reporting for Duty, Sir! 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.600 This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.160 Hi everybody, this is Trista and Bob. Welcome back to 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:12.000 the Almost Famous OG podcast. I'm really excited. We have 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.479 one of the DS, Joe Vaughn Q. Did I just 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:20.279 hear you laugh? Cue? No, maybe that was you, Bob 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:25.320 jovonn Q Charles. He is one of the DS. And 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.240 if you don't recognize the name, and if you saw 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.680 the show, he's the one that was following me. Let's 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.920 let's say that following me out of. 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.839 He was following you, Pepper and you. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.160 Basically he's like, you don't belong here, You're done, get 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:41.519 out of here. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.320 Yep, exactly. So I'm really excited to talk to him. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:46.680 Uh. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:48.880 This is kind of the first time that I've had 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:54.720 interaction with any of the DS after the show, and. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.240 I am a little bit nervous. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.880 I mean, obviously, you know, you know, they're good people. Yeah, 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:04.160 I would imagine it would. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.680 Be under ranking experience for you. How's it going. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.880 It's good so Q. This is my co host for 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.280 our Almost Famous OG podcast. This is Bob Guinea. He 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.640 was actually on the Bachelorette with me. Uh, sir, when 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.640 I was the Bachelorette. Do you even know what the 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:23.440 bachelorette is? 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:32.760 By the way, I know that's really a good question 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.080 because I was going to say, yeah, then I was 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.360 the Bachelor after but you don't know the Bachelerette or 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:36.960 the Bachelor. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.200 But it is kind of funny you had two. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.720 I mean, you've had several people from the Bachelor franchise 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.640 on the show as you've been affiliated with it, just 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:47.320 in general. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:49.560 Obviously, Trista's the toughest. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:56.400 Yeah, I know, Trista, Tristan the G. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:57.520 That's true. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.360 She is right, She's a real G. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.840 But no, you're you're you're totally right, do I do? 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.720 We We have had a lot of the uh, the Bachelor, 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.400 Bachelorettes and all that stuff on the show. So it's 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:14.000 been it's been. It's been good to see how y'all respond. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.000 Yeah, that's a that's a good that's a good word. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:17.919 It's a lot. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:23.080 Yeah, I like those words. Okay, so welcome. I would 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.600 I would love to hear because they don't really do 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.200 enough of this. I feel like on the show. Your 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.079 background and how you became part of. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:37.160 The show, well back twenty two years in the military. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.160 I just retired in twenty twenty one, right as all 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.720 the cast and everyone knows I'm a former Navy seal. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.400 So I did that most of my career. 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:50.120 Okay, I've deployed seven times in my career out of 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:50.880 twenty two years. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.720 Great time. You know, got all my things into So 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:59.040 I'm I'm all good, right And from where my background, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:02:59.640 I will say. 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.040 From where I come from. Originally, I'm originally from Washington, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.800 d C. That's where my my home home status. But 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:09.639 I kind of I kind of reaped both. I'm from Washington, 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.680 d C. But I finished high school in North Carolina, 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.239 so everything. I joined the Navy in June ninety nine 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.200 from Charlotte, which. 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.200 Is where I'm at right now. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:24.000 And you inst directly this is all coming up because 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.440 my son is actually considering applying. He kind of wants 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.720 to be a Navy seal que so I might be 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:36.800 calling you, so did you enlist? I know there's a 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.880 few different ways that you can become part of the 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.880 military in the United States. Did you enlist? 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.120 I did? I did. I came in I mean straight 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:48.600 row right when I was in the military. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.120 So one of the reasons I came I joined the 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.480 military is because I had kids in high school. So 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:56.080 that's the whole of where I come from, right, you know, 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.080 I was my I didn't I didn't have my mom 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:58.560 growing up. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:03:59.960 I was raised with my grandparents. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.160 My mom was a drug ACDT Oh wow, she was 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.120 in and out of prison a lot. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.840 So I never knew who my dad was. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.600 So my grandmother took that responsibility and my aunts and uncles, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.280 they all kind of played that role. Is raising me, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.680 I guess you would say. So took me from DC 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.320 to North Carolina. Still have my issues again, had my 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.679 kids in high school as a teenage dad then, and 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.920 my grandmother was like, Okay, you're going into the military. 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:26.640 This is how it's going on. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.560 You're going in the military so you can help take 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.200 care with kids and get out of this craziness. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:31.440 Right. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.440 So it was a good idea, I think today in hindsight. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:38.240 You know, she was very sick as well, diabetic ampuchief 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:38.920 from the knee. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.480 Down write me down. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.440 So she was the one who initially pushed me into 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.640 the military, which I had never wanted to do. I 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.240 was just not one of the things. I wanted to 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.680 go play football. I was a football star and all 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:52.120 that stuff. 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.680 But it worked. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:56.799 Out you know, if I couldn't be a pro athlete 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:01.159 or a collegiate athlete, being in Navy Seal truly is 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:03.479 the next best thing. Now not really the next best thing, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.360 it's really the thing because I have done so much 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.680 right I could be especially I mean I can be 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:14.200 a pro athlete or even a collegian athlete. But collegian athletes, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.480 pro athletes, they couldn't do what Navy sills do, you 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.640 know what I'm saying. So it's one of those things 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.880 where I have respect for them. I have respect for 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.320 anybody that's a professional in any industry that they're doing right. 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:25.600 I have complete respect. 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.960 But when I look at what I've done and what 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.600 the Seal teams have done as a whole across the world, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.560 you know, it takes the right person. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.760 To be this, to do this. 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.120 You know, when I in my class, we want to 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:41.960 graduated fifteen men, but we had two hundred and seventy starts. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.479 You know what I'm saying, Wow, this is the normal 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:51.000 of when people feel this is reality. It's hard, it's 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:51.960 a year long training. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.599 They just as much. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.800 As we're we gave it to you on the show, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.440 Imagine what we get on in realistic life of the. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.039 Training pipe I can't even imagine. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.760 They don't they don't shake your hand until you graduate. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.520 You know, you're not cool at all, and gradually and 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.520 then when you get to a series like you start 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:10.159 all over again. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.000 So those are some of the things. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.320 Is how I got involved in the Seal teams is 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:16.320 how it all started to me. 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:17.600 You know, to be honest with. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.400 You, that's incredible. I love that. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.400 But my father was a marine. I have incredible respect 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.920 for anyone who serves a country. And especially when Trista said, 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.240 you know that her son wants to be a Navy Seal, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:30.760 I was going to pipe in and say, I think 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.520 every single guy in the world would tell you if. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:35.159 They could do anything. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.600 You know, in my mind, like I tell trist of 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:40.200 this all the time, I watch a movie and I 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.920 walk away going, I need to get I think I 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.760 can still do it. I think, you know, there's first 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.400 of all, there's no way, there's no way I could do. 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.560 But yeah, just a tremendous amount of respect and admiration 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:52.040 and appreciation for what you've done with your career and 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.919 and and you know, for what the Navy Seal Teams 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:55.320 have done. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.520 You know, for our country. I mean, it's a it's amazing. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.880 Having someone on this show, like like like Trista, who 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:05.240 obviously you know is coming into this at a later 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:05.760 stage in. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.040 Her preparation for seal them. 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.040 I just got see that's why I couldn't make it on. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.000 The show or an ABC. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.760 I just started sweating. So when you have someone like 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.400 Trista on there, and people like like Stephen Baldwin and 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.080 everyone that's on the show, even Cam Newton, I mean, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.800 I'm sure you you see things in them that you 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.040 know they're they're they have the fortitude, and they have 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.720 the courage, they want to be there, and they're putting 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:36.640 themselves in this situation. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.400 But I mean, what was someone. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.560 Like, for example, like for Trista, when you would kind 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.720 of like size her up and you'd see she has 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.480 tenacity and she has grit, But what was her what 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.880 was her shortcoming if there was one that would have 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.560 possibly stopped her, one that could have possibly stopped her 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:55.440 from becoming a seal? 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:58.840 How is that? 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:00.800 I love you, Bob. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.040 I'll just there you go. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:05.800 Hey, you pushed that on to me now, so you 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.680 want me to be bad? 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:11.240 Yes, sir, Yes, sir, I'll answer it, I'll be the 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:15.160 bad guy. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.840 Okay, I like I like it, Thanks a lot, thanks 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.200 a lot. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:25.400 Yeah, Oh my gosh, oh man. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.560 So, uh all right, how do I tiptoe into this this? 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:31.000 You know what? Let me. 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:32.959 I'll help a little bit. So I have to tell 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.240 a funny story. And I don't know if you remember this, Q, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:41.280 so hopefully you do. But I walked up to uh 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.640 where we were going to jump off the bridge, and 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.000 I got to the top, like, you know, you climb 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:50.560 up this really steep hill by yourself. You know, Golden's 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.960 not there to carry my pack. I didn't have my pack, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.080 but but you know, no one's there to help me. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.040 So I climb up this hill and I get to 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:02.040 the top and Q is way there, And do you 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.160 remember what you said to me? And what I said back? 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:06.679 I don't really remember you a breaka. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.640 Oh my god, you're gonna laugh. Hopefully you're gonna giggle. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:13.000 So you you were like, why are you Why are 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.840 you so out of breath? What took you so long? 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.200 And I was like, I'm fifty one years old, I'm 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.280 out of breath, I'm out of shape, and I have asthma, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:26.800 And you were like yep, and you walked away. Okay, yeah, 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:27.719 it sounds about right. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.360 You definitely gave me everything I needed to hear. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:35.240 I was like, oh yeah, I got nothing. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.040 I got nothing on that I can. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:42.440 Perfect. I was like, well, if I'm being honest, like 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:45.120 I'm totally out of shape and I'm fifty one. You know, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.240 it was really it was a funny moment and a 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:52.520 moment that I feel like, hopefully, you know, at least 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:56.000 to yourself, you're finding like a little humor because I 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.280 can't even imagine. But let's go back to Bob's question, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.000 So what do you think is my weakness? 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.200 All right, all right for all the people watching this 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.120 and don't yeah, at the end. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:18.520 Of this, no, no, I mean I'll probably you know, say, yep, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.920 he's He's totally right. But I am curious to see, 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.880 like what you what you thought of it, like as 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.840 someone who sees all these celebrities come through it. And 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.800 you know, I'm small, I'm older, you know, I don't 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.120 I'm not a professional athlete, I'm not an Olympic star. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.080 You know, I'm sure you have certain judgments that you 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.160 have to make because you guys are judging us essentially. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:51.240 So yeah, i'd love to know like what I can 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:56.200 work on just from my own personal perspective, what I 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:00.760 could utilize from your experience, and how I can myself. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.400 Well, I will initially say, like for the for the 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.680 general right, for everyone who comes on the show, Yeah, one, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.319 typically everyone is not physically in condition in some kind 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.920 of way. Like me, I, even at forty four years old, 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:19.559 I hold my conditioning to the utmost highest standard for me, right, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.160 I want to a one hundred year old man is 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.040 still a beast in this world, and I will always 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.520 carry and be that way. And I think for the 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.320 broad spectrum of it all, everyone comes in not really 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:34.400 physically ready for that, and then there's others who are 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.400 even not even close to that, they're even worse. And 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.920 then mentally, people are assuming the celebrities that come on 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:42.880 the show, assuming that. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.600 There will be a little bit of a lull where you. 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:46.320 Get to go and relax and you can kind of 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.040 you know, have a little chill time where you know, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.679 maybe a hotel, maybe your cell phone back, you get 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.400 to kind of relax. Yeah, all we strip all that 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.000 away and let all that gum. We treat you like 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.400 you are really on a deployment, because we want youry 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.400 to get a full understanding of what we had to 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.160 go through for the years of seven eight nine months. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.120 Depending on if you was a seal, you're gone for 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.000 seven eight If you're a marine, you could be gone 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.280 for an entire year and say yes, SBS the same thing. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.960 So's we want people to understand that, you know, you're 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.160 isolated in this in these positions, and you're mentally you 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.080 have to be in the game, you have to be 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.800 all in on what you're doing. And I think a 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.719 lot of the celebrities come in not really understanding that's 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.600 how it's going to be because as you know now 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.920 that's this reality show was not like any other reality 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.439 show ever, and we've really, you know, kicked the crap 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.160 out of you. So I would say for you personally 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:42.400 physic the physical aspect of it was huge for you, right, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.160 and then you win it. Right, you have asthma, you 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.000 have all those things, your age and all that stuff. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.120 But it's something that because you're a family person, right, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.960 it's not something that you're really common to or normal 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.000 to in your normal daily life, your routine because you're 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.200 a mom or a wife do all these different things. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:01.280 So you're going to come into with that weakness, right, 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:05.080 and then the mental as of it is another thing. Uh, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.199 there's a lot of fear in you on this thing. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:08.800 So you know, I can't remember you. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.240 First of all, you're answering this brilliantly. I mean, I'm 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.000 just blown away. 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.280 I'm like, God, God, he's doing great. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:23.800 I've seen a lot. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.920 And I was also instructed before I got out the navy, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:28.920 you know, so I kind of I got the chance 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.800 to see what it's like on the instructor's side for 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.560 kids who's trying to come in and beat me like 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.160 your son. Trust I got to see now because at 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.080 first I wasn't always in the instructor role, so I 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.880 didn't get the chance to look at her from the 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:40.400 other side. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:41.480 But when I did, it. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.160 Was like whoa, whoa, Is that what I look like 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:46.040 when I went through. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:57.000 Crying and throwing up? And like then it's so funny side, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.440 But generally that's what it is. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:58.640 You know. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.600 The mindset of the thing is you're going through hell 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.280 the entire time, right, it's the worst thing. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.760 It's a lot of fears that you've never done this before. 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.720 You got people yelling at you, you know, and and 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.720 if you're not mentally prepared for the especially us the 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.800 verbal abuse that we're giving you, right, and it's. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:17.959 Ye own verbal abuse. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.760 There's a purpose behind it because we're meant to break 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.680 you down and see if you can still push through 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.800 all that, if you can not hear it, if you 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:26.840 can shut it out, and still even when you fail 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.840 a task, can you tell yourself to pick yourself up. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.120 It's all right to keep moving on, even though I'm 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:32.760 in your. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.960 Ass the entire time and telling you you're not, telling 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.920 you you're not this is not for you, telling you 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.360 you're weak, telling you you're a failure to the rest 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.120 of the team, the rest of your your classmates and whoever, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.920 and see how you can manage that. You know, all 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.080 that hell, And I'm like, okay, that's the whole. So 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.520 I think a lot of that stuff. Everyone that comes 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.920 on the show, they have they struggle with all those 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.120 aspects of what I just said. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.200 So you have you have your struggles with that as well. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:58.320 And the physical part. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.080 I think you've probably been a little bit more physical condition, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.600 you would have been able to probably push through some 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.520 more of the things that we were giving you. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:07.440 That's what I was saying. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:12.560 Yeah, oh, tot and I'll tell you kind of a background. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.800 They approached me I think about three months before, and 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.760 I was I was basically signed up. I was going 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.680 through the like medical clearance, and they weren't going to 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:26.520 clear me medically because I have had a I had 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.160 back surgery, I had a lumbar fusion, and at one 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.240 point the doctor was like, well, I just don't know 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.960 if you could handle being pushed off a boat, and 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.680 I was like, being pushed off a boat, Holy crap. 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:43.400 So basically I had to get my doctors involved and 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.680 ended up obviously getting cleared. But during that time, I'm 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.720 super superstitious, and I didn't work out when I was waiting, 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.520 so I lost like at least a month of training 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.600 that would really have helped. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.440 Three months tholand months would have definitely put you in 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.760 a better bracket physically to handle a lot of the 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:09.440 stuff that we was doing with Especially when you start 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.520 running with fact all that stuff, it weighs on you, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.920 like your lower back starts to hurt and be painful, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:20.760 so uncomfortable your neck from this. People don't realize how 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.600 miserable you completely are when you add weight to your 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.840 body and you're always wearing this weight and you're always 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.640 doing this certain thing and you're always running here and 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:32.560 you can give They don't realize the they don't realize it. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.600 But it's good. It's good to see what, yeah, you. 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:50.720 Do because your only respect too, I'm sure trust that. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.120 I mean not that, I mean, I know you have 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.760 friends who have trained in their Navy seals and things 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.320 that are retired now as well. I will say this, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.680 you know, watching the show, I mean I got literally 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.320 emotional watching the show because you know, I know a 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.360 lot of the people that were on this season and 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.320 I was just watching how you guys are. I mean, 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:11.919 but I also feel like, you know, you guys have 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.640 been there and done it, and you clearly still keep 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:15.959 yourself in spectacular condition. 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:17.800 Everyone looked like they're in such great shape. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:19.840 But it's funny, you know when you went into the 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.440 I think it's called the mirror room, and you kind 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.280 of would be you know, and it was like the 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.240 one time on the show where we'd see you guys 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.399 actually you know, as the DS is sort of not 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.439 ever letting the guard down, because that was one thing 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:34.640 Denise Richard's commented on too. She had said she kind 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.760 of had thought, you know, we'll go to a lounge 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:38.960 or something. She's like, where's the lounge? You know, where's 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.639 craft services. But you'd kind of get to know these people, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.680 which I thought, Man, you guys aren't just great at 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.080 what you've trained your whole life to do. You're really 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:53.760 good at getting us as a viewer to like, you know, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.720 you kind of got to the heart and soul of 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.399 what made these people give this thing a shot in 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.399 the first place, and why they're there, why they're not 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.399 just in their cushy lifestyles, and and I was just 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.480 watching it thinking, man, they've got to be feeling for this. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:09.280 Person, you know. But so I have to ask, like, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.760 you know, in your role, were there ever. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.280 Moments where you were like, oh man, we got to 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:16.480 back off of this person, or was it because of 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.600 your training, because you know what you've gone through, they're like, okay, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.159 we got to step it up on this person in 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.840 that moment where we're all at home going hump the brakes, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.760 you know, give her, give her a minute. Was there 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.399 ever like that moment where where you, guys, it's not 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.480 like you smell blood in the water, but you see 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.240 this person and you're like, okay, we got to push 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.840 harder now or where are you in those moments? 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:34.880 Yes or no? 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.720 To anskwer that out of the bet. Yeah, you'll see 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:38.920 that and you want to push. And you'll see that 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.920 and you're like, oh, let me laying up a little 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.080 bit on this person. We want to we want to 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.560 challenge you period, hands down. We want to give you 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.520 full bore challenge. One thousand percent. What is like one 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.040 hundred percent right? One hundred percent of the time. Well, 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.240 you'll you'll get to a point where you see someone say, 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.679 like a like a Denise right herself when on the 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.080 scene saw me pulling her number, Yeah about her back 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.439 right and this and if she sees this, Denise, I 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:07.679 have nothing more respect for you. 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:07.920 Girl. 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.200 Don't ever know everything. This is personal? 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.240 Okay, Yeah, sometimes celebrities will take some of that stuff personal. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:16.600 I mean, I get it, we took it. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.520 I didn't like my instructors when I went through I 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.919