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Speaker 2: Look at us now. Tip to Tim. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning Combat back like a bad habit of Jesus.

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Speaker 1: I mean, could I I mean I'm the worst person

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Speaker 1: favorite pair of jeans. I'm just I'm struggling today because

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Speaker 1: I had to get up at four am, because that's life.

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Luke Thomas. I am one

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Speaker 1: half your hosting duo from CBS Sports in Showtime, joined

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Speaker 1: by a much more refreshed looking than me. Still washed

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Speaker 1: like a favorite pair of jeans, though, King of Connecticut,

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. What's up? PC? How you doing, Boss?

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Speaker 2: Luke? I can clean up well to cover the washedness,

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Speaker 2: but eventually, by the end of the show it'll seep through.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Luke. Why because you know I'm back

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Speaker 2: at the controls here of the best damn combats sports

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Speaker 2: talk show there is, period.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: This phenomenon is so strong that we had to put

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Speaker 2: it in a song and it goes like this, whoa

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Speaker 2: MK is the color of your energy. Yeah, whoa, let's

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Speaker 2: talk about fights and Poonnani. So would there have been

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Speaker 2: a better way for me to start this Monday, Luke?

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Speaker 1: Na, These are songs I sing while I take it

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Speaker 1: a dump, and then you come and do them on

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Speaker 2: It is an amazing I live rent free in your brain.

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Speaker 1: That's what that means, Luke, rent free. Well, it's not

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Speaker 1: about you, it's about my dump usually, But either way, welcome.

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Speaker 1: It's a Monday show. We are reacting to a lot

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Speaker 1: of Bellator stuff. We're gonna react to some UFC news.

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Speaker 1: We of course have a big set of combat sports

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Speaker 1: fights ahead of us this next weekend, so a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about here. As always, thumbs up on the

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Speaker 1: video hit subscribe. How was your weekend? Very quickly BC?

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Speaker 1: Anything fun you do? You know?

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Speaker 2: I actually got a little handy, Luke, which is not

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Speaker 2: my forte, and I purchased a new chandelier light for

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Speaker 2: the fourier area. We don't don't let chandelier fool you

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Speaker 2: into thinking it's something that costs more than seventy nine dollars, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know, it took me hours, but I

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Speaker 2: that's a big win in these parts.

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Speaker 1: Luke, much like master Much like Master P describing art

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Speaker 1: It's neither eloquent nor elegant. It's eloquent in your house,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm guessing, right, that's the vibe.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Luke. Absolutely. I mean I may have chipped the

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Speaker 2: pain a few times and swore a lot, but Luke,

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Speaker 2: that that ship's up and uh, that don't. That's not

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Speaker 2: always a guarantee. Okay, when you get BC's hands on things, Luke,

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Speaker 2: I'll break Look, I tend to break shit, is really

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Speaker 2: the quote?

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Speaker 1: You know the point here? Yeah, I went to a

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Speaker 1: kid's birthday party yesterday, which was fine, and then Saturday

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Speaker 2: Dad, I like that, Luke. I bet you probably wore

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm cool guys for real. No, I wear

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Speaker 1: This is I feel like it's more Glengarry Glenn Ross

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Speaker 2: The fine folks at Corona who do not sponsor our show? Luke,

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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? Well, who are you, Shannon Sharp? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't dock him. I don't dock him, Luke, because

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Speaker 1: People I think he's got a tough fight against Corey Anderson.

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Speaker 2: He is Lithuanian. Look, he's Lithuanian.

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Speaker 2: Well, if the bigger headline is still we got a

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Speaker 2: Do you see a fatal flaw? Is that really what

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Speaker 2: He got caught. Luke, you know what happens. I didn't

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Speaker 2: But Luke, before Saturday night he went.

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Speaker 1: He went back to it after he got dropped in

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, what if this had been the Cory

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Speaker 1: And I think the story is the both of them,

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Speaker 2: I was eagerly impressed, but I will say that whether

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Speaker 2: this guy was one of the underdogs coming in, but

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Speaker 2: looks like he could be the favorite now, Corey Anderson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's get to him because it's the far

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Speaker 1: and just he looks BC. Let's start here. Has Corey

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the only flash I've seen before

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Speaker 2: this point, when you and I both came around and said,

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Speaker 2: kind of feeling Baiter, or maybe I was. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I didn't see Corey Anderson making this next level leap

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Speaker 2: It was just so much of it that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: he's riding is scary when you're now doing this Because

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Speaker 2: I thought Bader was the more well rounded fighter. I

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Speaker 2: I think. But even pause the beater one, Corey Anderson's

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Speaker 2: freaking here, Luke, And what is it about the way

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Speaker 2: He got out of his UF to see deal early.

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Speaker 2: he had in the health scare, Luke, and now he's

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Speaker 2: like the happiest man on earth, and it's playing into

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Speaker 2: his performance. He's not the first free agent we've seen

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Speaker 2: to come to Belop Tour and say, for my interests,

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Speaker 2: just go out there and fight Luke. He looks damn

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Speaker 2: great because he's on point with everything.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point. I do think the fact that

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced. I'm convinced, like I've never thought Corey Anderson

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Speaker 1: I always thought he was good. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna favor Corey Anderson to win the entire thing.

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Speaker 1: I do think Nemkov can beat him. I think it's

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Speaker 1: I feel like Cory Anderson deserves that nod. His precision,

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, only thirty years of age, dude, he

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Speaker 1: has thoroughly convinced me that he deserves to get a

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Speaker 1: if you don't, I think he's gonna have a bit

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Speaker 1: It's time to take those expectations, ball him up and

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Speaker 1: chuck them in the garbage. This is a different guy

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Speaker 1: he's got a different skill set too, or at least,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's as good. It's not as good,

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Speaker 1: I was. I have to say this, dude. We did

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Speaker 1: Do We did not give him enough due. We sold

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Speaker 2: Well, I think very much. Okay, don't don't. Don't we

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Speaker 2: us in this? I may have picked against him in

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Speaker 2: talking up the praises of this guy. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: He didn't. We didn't shit on him. We didn't shit

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Speaker 1: on okay? But did we wrong? Did we accurately assess

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Speaker 2: At least half of us in it. But that's fine, Luke,

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Speaker 2: he's thirty two, not thirty saw dead wrong here, but

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Speaker 2: Do you see any difference, like in terms of what

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Speaker 1: I think that Bader plays into his strengths a little bit,

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Speaker 1: It was a counter right hand, remember at It was

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Speaker 1: you know, Bader probably made Cory Anderson look a little

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Speaker 1: bit better. But here's the thing. We don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry you about Yanblhovitch. By the way, they're one and one.

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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind because Corey Anderson has a win

433
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Speaker 1: over him, granted from years ago, but he does have

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Speaker 1: a win over him. They're one and one. Nemkov doesn't

435
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Speaker 1: lay back. Nemkov brings the fight. Now. That's usually to

436
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Speaker 1: his strengths, right, He's pushing into you, he's making you work,

437
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Speaker 1: he's overwhelming you. You know, a guy like Blhovitch doesn't

438
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Speaker 1: really do that, which makes Behovich a little bit harder

439
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Speaker 1: to beat, and sometimes it makes Themkov harder to beat.

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Speaker 1: But against Anderson, I wonder if that might make things

441
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Speaker 1: a little bit better for Anderson's chances could.

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Speaker 2: Be could be all either way. He's got the go

443
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Speaker 2: get it right now and you're not blown away? Yeah

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Speaker 2: I was blown away absolutely. I mean to do that

445
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Speaker 2: in a minute against Ryan bater who thirty eight or not.

446
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Speaker 2: I mean this Ryan Baterer was just a two division

447
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Speaker 2: champion trying to get that belt back. So tough loss

448
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Speaker 2: for Bader for sure, but you know, Anderson went after

449
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Speaker 2: it and got it, and it was obviously the type

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Speaker 2: of punch, And he said it in the interview afterwards

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Speaker 2: that he was watching on tape that Bader slips to

452
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Speaker 2: his left just a bit while throwing the jabs, so

453
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Speaker 2: he landed and set up that fight that punch absolutely perfectly.

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Speaker 2: So momentum wise, I wonder if we're gonna end up

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Speaker 2: favoring him when it's time to fight Nemcough. But you know,

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Speaker 2: just style wise contrasting, I can't wait to find out

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Speaker 2: if Cowyn Erson can get in Nemcoff down, if Nemcough

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Speaker 2: can have any success in top position, does this go

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Speaker 2: to a striking war where maybe before I would have said,

460
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Speaker 2: you know, kickboxing well rounded abilities here in Nemcoff finisher,

461
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Speaker 2: I'd like his chances on the feet. But if Corey

462
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Speaker 2: Anderson on the feet is going to use that length

463
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Speaker 2: and be a threat to land counter shots of his own, look,

464
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Speaker 2: We're we're gona have a different championship fight, and I

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Speaker 2: can't wait for it, no.

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Speaker 1: Doubt about it. Also, I just have to say, there's

467
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Speaker 1: there's a discussion to be had about Ryan Bader here now.

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Speaker 1: When we spoke to him on Friday, ABC, what was

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Speaker 1: he saying? He was saying, like you know, I was

470
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Speaker 1: asking him what was left for you to do? Because

471
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Speaker 1: if you win this and then he win the whole tournament,

472
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Speaker 1: you become a two time champ champ, which is like

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Speaker 1: weird to even consider he's still the belt or heavyweight champ,

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Speaker 1: which I know, but I don't know. I think it

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Speaker 1: is time based on what we've seen recently. Whatever how

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Speaker 1: fluky the Nemcov win may have been given some of

477
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Speaker 1: the circumstances that he had laid out, still, thirty eight

478
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Speaker 1: years old is not the best time, even at light

479
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Speaker 1: heavyweight to do your best work. It can be done again,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have that obviously the Blokhovic and Glover to

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Speaker 1: sharifight coming up. But I do think the sun is

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Speaker 1: at least beginning beginning to set on his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well certainly, and certainly at two o five because

484
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Speaker 2: you're seeing Look, it's not like in his prime, Luke,

485
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Speaker 2: he couldn't be gotten to and get to his chin

486
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Speaker 2: and finish him. Mean He's had some destructive elite losses

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Speaker 2: in the first round normally, so it's not that this

488
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Speaker 2: is completely out of character. But at two o five,

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Speaker 2: when the speed gap becomes a legitimate thing in your

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Speaker 2: late thirties, could he go to heavyweight, Luke and just

491
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Speaker 2: focus on that and stay champion for a while.

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Speaker 1: Maybe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he did seem to have a game with

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Speaker 2: the emergence of his boxing that's perfect for heavyweight, given

495
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Speaker 2: that he's got a big frame to begin with, and

496
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Speaker 2: not everyone at heavyweight is close to the accomplishments that

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Speaker 2: he has wrestling wise. But there's still big fights, Luke

498
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Speaker 2: at two o five if he wants to stay there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to, you know, outside of outside

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Speaker 2: of tournament or even title I would love to see

501
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Speaker 2: him be fighting Musasi before he's done rematching Rumbell, Johnson,

502
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Speaker 2: fighting Ramero. I'd be down for all this shit, Luke.

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Speaker 1: You yes, I'd be down for it too. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that this tournament, and you know, everything that

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Speaker 1: happened against Nemkov, I'm with you. I think he can

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Speaker 1: still take fights at two of five if the right

507
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Speaker 1: one emerges or that makes sense, or he can get

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Speaker 1: let's say Anderson wins the whole tournament and he gets

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Speaker 1: a shot at a rematch with him, which will also

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Speaker 1: be a title shot with one more win in belt

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Speaker 1: or which, by the way, I'm not saying title shots

512
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Speaker 1: are easy to come by, but sometimes because the divisions

513
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Speaker 1: are smaller, they're not necessarily as difficult. One win could

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Speaker 1: put them right back in there. Would I take it?

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Speaker 1: If I assume yes, I would take that under those conditions,

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Speaker 1: But I would also begin to prioritize the heavyweight component

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Speaker 1: of the career because I do think there he's still

518
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Speaker 1: going to have speed advantages. He's going to be a

519
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Speaker 1: size that is going to be compelling and agile, but

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Speaker 1: still strong at light heavyweight. It looks to me like

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Speaker 1: that division is kind of moving past, even in Bellator,

522
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Speaker 1: and it might be worth waking up to that fact.

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Speaker 2: Luke, did you see unscheduled coming here? But did you

524
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Speaker 2: see the prelim main event when your boy uh zavlets

525
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Speaker 2: On Yakshimerdov like was willing to go to war with

526
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Speaker 2: Karl Abreksen. Carl gets the decision in a close fight.

527
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Speaker 2: But Luke, that was a former Grand prier and your

528
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Speaker 2: boy davlets On and he came. He came, came to fight.

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Speaker 1: Luke, you see that ship I did not. I did not.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he lose, He lost. But that was a fun

531
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Speaker 2: ass fight with with momentum swings and wild kick attempts.

532
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Speaker 2: It was a It was some good theater like you

533
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Speaker 2: should have You should have caught that, all right.

534
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Speaker 1: All right, So before we move on from bellatort, what

535
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Speaker 1: is your sense about the finals Anderson versus nim Kov?

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Speaker 1: How competitive is that in your mind heading into those

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Speaker 1: the finals, whatever those may be.

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Speaker 2: Well, I I just gave you a ship ton of

539
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Speaker 2: analysis directly on that, Luke. I can only put.

540
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Speaker 1: Some more on top of that ship. Who do you think?

541
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Speaker 2: Just say, Well, like I told you earlier, I think

542
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Speaker 2: we're we're both gonna end up favoring Anderson by the

543
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Speaker 2: time we make you know, we get to fight week

544
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Speaker 2: for what early twenty twenty two, and we make our pick.

545
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: As of right now, Momentum is a thing. And if

546
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Speaker 2: you're gonna pile on top of your momentum a fifty

547
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Speaker 2: one second finish of Ryan Bader with the type of

548
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Speaker 2: you know, power in your counter strikes that we didn't

549
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Speaker 2: think you necessarily even had. Yeah, bro, this is legit, Luke,

550
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Speaker 2: And that's with everything I said good about Nemkov, And

551
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Speaker 2: that's if you're bellator, Luke. It's Look, here's the deal.

552
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: If you're bellatur and you have a lane once in

553
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Speaker 2: a while to make that argument and say, look, right now,

554
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Speaker 2: we might have the best featherweight or light heavyweight in

555
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Speaker 2: the world. Look, I'm all for like debating those arguments.

556
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 2: That's fine, but you also at the end of the day,

557
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: when you're not number one, you want to put on

558
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: competitive divisions with competitive fights for the belt. This is

559
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Speaker 2: that at light have youweight and this Luke has to

560
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 2: make this tournament of success. Even with Romero never fighting

561
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Speaker 2: in it and Rumble not getting the matchup we wanted

562
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Speaker 2: in it, in terms of the biggest names, tournament played

563
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Speaker 2: out pretty damn well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not getting Romero hurt, putting Romero against Davis to

565
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Speaker 1: me still incomprehensible. Obviously, the losing of the Anthony Johnson

566
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: situation is not anyone's fault. It just sort of happened,

567
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: and so you kind of I mean, here's the problem.

568
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Speaker 1: The right side of that bracket was like the bracket

569
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Speaker 1: of death, and you really wanted to see that all

570
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: played out. In the end, Nimkov advanced, which he probably

571
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: would have been the guy to do that anyway, but

572
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Speaker 1: it would have been nice to get it. But I

573
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Speaker 1: think from the other side of the bracket, you got

574
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Speaker 1: a real dark horse contender. You've got a guy you

575
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Speaker 1: can now believe can win the whole thing. And really,

576
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Speaker 1: if you're belt or what do you want when this

577
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Speaker 1: is over. You want a guy you can market, but

578
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Speaker 1: you want to be also able to argue effectively and

579
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Speaker 1: and genuinely we have a claim to have the best

580
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Speaker 1: light heavyweight on Earth. I still think it depends how

581
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Speaker 1: things go between Tashera and Belhovich. Before you can say

582
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Speaker 1: that again, Belkhovich and Anderson at Vanerson wins, they're one

583
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Speaker 1: in one in total. But I do think BC, it

584
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Speaker 1: is possible you could find yourself in a legitimate circumstance

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Speaker 1: where that fight is over on the UFC side, the

586
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Speaker 1: tournament has concluded on the belt tor side, and we

587
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Speaker 1: can say, yeah, the best like heavyweight on Earth resides

588
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Speaker 1: in Blatore. That is a possibility, and not just a

589
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Speaker 1: remote one either.

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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have that discussion in today's DMS

591
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Speaker 2: from donks I hear Luke. So I don't want to

592
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: put it all together, but I think you're damn right, Luke. Okay,

593
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Speaker 2: the tournament worked, and don't forget what was the best

594
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Speaker 2: and most exciting tournament fight up to date, robol Johnson,

595
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Speaker 2: Jose Augusto. Luke, that some weird, sloppy ship, but that

596
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: was that was fun while it lasted.

597
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Speaker 1: It was fun while lasting. It's the perfect way to

598
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Speaker 1: put that, all right. This next one was not fun

599
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Speaker 1: while it lasted. In fact, it was torture for the

600
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Speaker 1: entirety of it. The UFC had a main event, and

601
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: to call it lackluster I think would be quite charming.

602
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Topic number three, aspen Ladd had a fight with Norma

603
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Speaker 1: Dumont and just lost it. And it didn't just lose

604
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Speaker 1: like she didn't get like super beat up or anything.

605
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: That was a terrible fight, terrible in its execution, terrible

606
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Speaker 1: in the fact that aspen Ladd had no seemingly second

607
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Speaker 1: gear to go to BC. How do you assess how

608
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: this fight went and who do you principally blame for that?

609
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Speaker 2: That's a deep question, Luke. With a lot of chatter

610
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Speaker 2: online about it. So look, first of all, you're right

611
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: she didn't get, you know, even though this was a

612
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Speaker 2: debut of sorts under the UFC at one forty five

613
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Speaker 2: and she's moving up in theory facing a bigger opponent,

614
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Speaker 2: and even though we didn't give normal to you amount

615
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Speaker 2: a ton of credit or respect coming in, you know,

616
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Speaker 2: and we're probably look, we're not even really talking about

617
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Speaker 2: her performance either. Right here, it's all to say, Look,

618
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Speaker 2: it was a tough opportunity moving up in wait, two years,

619
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Speaker 2: off injuries, pull outs, missweight, all that craziness just to

620
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: get here. But then she put off the kind of

621
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: performance that it just shows you there's there's major rewiring

622
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 2: that needs to be done to the computer because her

623
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: circuits are all off in this type of performance, Luke,

624
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't get what she was trying to do with

625
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: the head. It looked like not at the Roxbury, like

626
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: stuck in a permanent looping GIF. It was just sort

627
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: of like an awkward star with the head movement patterns

628
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: and not throwing much and the willingness to sort of

629
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Speaker 2: give away the first two or three rounds, like, you know,

630
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: very widely sort of, and then we're all waiting for

631
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Speaker 2: the Jim West power up speech, Luke, which you know,

632
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Speaker 2: only can consider it only this time because lad didn't

633
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: respond right away by going out there knocking out Yani

634
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: Kunitskay like she did last time. It of course made

635
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: it look like a fail. But is the failure the

636
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: fighter the coach? How much do we sprinkle on there

637
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: and get into the juicy side and realize they are

638
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Speaker 2: also dating Luke and have been in a relationship for

639
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Speaker 2: a while and he's coached her since she was a

640
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Speaker 2: very young teen? Is there a place we question if

641
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: there's a place for the father son or father daughter

642
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: trainer relationship at combat sports because of how difficult and

643
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: the line's cross, Is there a place Luke with significant

644
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: others coaching others either way, I can only look from

645
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: the outside in and be like, she's not responding to

646
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: what he's saying, and because of that, it looks extra

647
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: harsh And again, Luke, the problem I think with being

648
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: a coach and the significant other is eventually you're gonna

649
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: get fired of one of those two jobs, and that

650
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: means you get fired of both. And at some point

651
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: you know, like, can't you can't have a twenty four

652
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: to seven relationship that is fighter coach, right, It's got

653
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: to be different. The problem is in the fight game,

654
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: you really have to be twenty four to seven all in,

655
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: from nutrition to your mental thoughts to everything you do

656
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: has to be fighting related. So I don't know how

657
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: that can not end badly. For when you have a

658
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: relationship and it's not like we haven't seen it before,

659
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: you know, husband, wife, Look, it's been done and it

660
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: can be done right, just like the father son thing.

661
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: But there's also a lot of grounds for combustion. And

662
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: I think, Luke, even though we don't want to dip

663
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: too much into the personal side, that's what I'm seeing

664
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: as a factor. There's also a two year layoff. There's

665
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: also a moving up and weight in the sort of

666
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: you know, mental tricks that might be playing on oneself,

667
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: of wondering what weight class do I belong in and

668
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: all that, But down to the foundational core of coach

669
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: and fighter communication looked all kinds of off. And I

670
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: think her performance, even though she did step it up

671
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: a bit in rounds four or five, it was lifeless

672
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: enough Luke that that's almost more concerning than had she

673
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: come out there, gott into a fight and gotten finished.

674
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: I think it's more concerning when you have this far

675
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: of a disconnect between one's ability and one's performance and

676
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: the communication to get there.

677
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the reason why you feel that way,

678
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people feel that way,

679
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: is because if you get finished within two rounds, it's like, well,

680
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: you went for it and it didn't go your way.

681
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: You took on potentially some risk that caused the fight

682
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: ending sequence, and okay, live to fight another day. But

683
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: when you go five rounds and you look bad, basically

684
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: in all five you just got audited. You got audited.

685
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: Every part of your game that is even remotely relevant,

686
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to make itself known and impactful, and

687
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: essentially didn't. I mean, dude, do you know how many

688
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: strikes she landed in the first round? Do you know? No?

689
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't look three three. She landed four in the second,

690
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: nine in the third. So through a regulation MMA fight,

691
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: she landed sixteen total strikes single digits in every round.

692
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: She had twelveth in the fourth round, which is nice,

693
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: and then regressed back to five in the fifth. These

694
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: aren't like that's just total amount landed, dude. Her numbers

695
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: before this, where she was averaging almost three and a

696
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: half strikes a minute a minute and she gets down

697
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: to this. This was a bizarre performance for me. I

698
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: actually think quite highly of aspen Lad in the past.

699
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: I mean she's had some ups and some downs, certainly

700
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: on the scales and and other places as well, but

701
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I tend to think highly of her ability. This was

702
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: a weird we I mean, you took this fight on

703
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: short notice because you want to do right by management. Okay, fine,

704
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: and then you thought maybe this might be a good

705
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: opportunity for you to win. But dude, like there was

706
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: no answer for the job. If you don't have an

707
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: answer for the jab, why are you taking this fight?

708
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: Well, but when she's at her best and this is why,

709
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: like you know, the gym West like something like I'm

710
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: not saying that he's like this is the wrong I'm

711
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: not saying anything. Really, I'm saying there's been times where

712
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: he's been able to light that spark and she's a

713
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: absolute force out there. I remember when she walked into

714
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: the cage before this fight started, going what's like, what's

715
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: with that look? She just had a look that was

716
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: sort of like oh, we're here, okay, Like it just

717
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: didn't something seemed off. So to see the performance mixed

718
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: with that. Yeah. I mean, and it's one way to

719
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: say an audit. But Luke, I don't think this was like, oh,

720
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: everything she tried got stuffed, so she just basically didn't

721
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: have a plan C or D. I don't think she.

722
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: I think it was a failure to launch.

723
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: Luke.

724
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't even think she got audited. I just think

725
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: that she I mean, she looked like a broken robot

726
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: out there, just looked like just the whole patterns where

727
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: it's like a chuck E cheese whe the guy that's

728
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: supposed to be playing the banjo in that puffy band

729
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: is instead doing like you know, crazy hand signs. Look

730
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: at what it doesn't make any sense.

731
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: Well, I'll meet you halfway. I think that's a little

732
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: bit fair to say, like, you know, part of this

733
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: was she just couldn't really get going. True. But when

734
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: you're when you're faced with the same problem for roughly

735
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: twenty five minutes or let's say twenty minutes, right, something

736
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: like that, where the jab is being in your face

737
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: and you don't have an answer for it. Yes, I

738
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: think it's a bit of a middle ground between you know,

739
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: how much are you competitively in a mind space where

740
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: you're able to like, you know, Marshal, all of the

741
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: forces that you have to potentially win and how much

742
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: of that is your inability to actually muster those things

743
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: is a consequence of knowing you don't have an answer

744
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: for this. I mean, it's a bit of a chicken

745
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: in the egg scenario, but I don't think you could

746
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: fully remove one consideration or the other. Both are probably

747
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: playing a bit of a factor here. But to me,

748
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, at this stage of her career, we're missing

749
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: moving up a weight class and having a performance. It's

750
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: not that I don't I'm judging her for losing per se.

751
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: It's just that the lack of another gear, another option

752
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: to turn to, whether it was motivational, whether it was tactical,

753
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: whether it was some combination of both, really was I

754
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: think a major setback. This is a bit of a

755
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: bad time I think for aspen Lad's career. Hopefully she'll

756
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: have some of your days in the future, but this

757
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: one is not quite it, which leads us b C.

758
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, I got it, I got it. Are

759
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: you transitioning out here? Because I got a key question

760
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 2: for you.

761
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the speech and the corner

762
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: after the third round, Please go for it. Yes, yeah,

763
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: so her coach Jim West. As you indicate, they're romantically involved.

764
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: But either way, the round is over and she's walking

765
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: back and her coach just kind of matter of factly

766
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: begins to scold her, saying things like, you know, I

767
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: forget exactly what the words were, but it was like,

768
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? You're down three rounds. This

769
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: fight is over unless you could basically just knock her out.

770
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: But he did it in this very aggressive, in your face,

771
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: you know, almost like a parent talking to a student

772
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: who had troubles in school or was cutting class or something. PC.

773
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: How do you assess the cornering advice there? Was it

774
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: too much or maybe not?

775
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: Okay, here's another situation where it's like we don't want

776
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: to talk about, oh, they're in a relationship, as you know,

777
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: and try to act okay that that doesn't play a

778
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: part in this. I think it does, Luke, because if

779
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 2: they were in a relationship, then that's how some coaches motivate,

780
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 2: and that's how some athletes need to be motivated. Luke.

781
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's it's not so much the

782
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: generation now. I know that because I tried to coach

783
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: you basketball a couple of times in the past few years,

784
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: and Luke, you can't raise your voice or do anything

785
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: most nowadays, or people want to cry or quit the

786
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: team instantly. And maybe I just come from a factory town, Luke,

787
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: so I'm used to being yelled and sworn at to

788
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: get the best out of me. But for some people

789
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 2: that fricking works. When you add in the oh, they're

790
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: also dating, and it's coming from older male to female.

791
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: I just think it gets a little messy, especially when

792
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: it sounds that condescending and almost angry, and it doesn't

793
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: the flip. The switch doesn't flip right, she doesn't go

794
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: out there and repeat what you did against Kunitskay and

795
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: then I go, okay. You know, you may not love

796
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: the coaching methods, but they work when you have a

797
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: complete breakdown in almost the fighter kind of yeah, whatever.

798
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: Then it adds an extra level of focus in the

799
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: in the uh, in the you know, magnifier, Luke, it

800
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: just does it? Does you know? Like, so, do I

801
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: think that was harsh in a normal situation? No, But

802
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: I don't think you this situation is normal at all, Luke.

803
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: So I think that's why you're seeing the very polarizing

804
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: reactions to this in really both directions, you know, from

805
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: DC and and or Sanko coming out and being like, look,

806
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: that's fine, that's how coaches do to mischa. Tate on

807
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: the other end, just really making a run on Twitter

808
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: and just being like, this is, you know, abuse. I

809
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: tend to fall more in the middle on the abuse question,

810
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: but again, this is kind of reality TV. Look, we

811
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: can't really avoid it.

812
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: I am with you. I think I'm with you. I

813
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: think the reality is when you look at that kind

814
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: of motivational attempt, which is what it was, right, I

815
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: think everyone would agree. You could call it a bad one,

816
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: but it would still be one, and it doesn't get

817
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: you meaningfully closer to anything that you're looking for. Then

818
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: you have to recognize that either the tactical way in

819
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: which you are speaking or even at this juncture, you know,

820
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: just trying to will her into something, it's not working.

821
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: It's not working. I don't know what the right answer

822
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: is once you realize it's not working, except maybe to

823
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: call it off because you can get injured in a fight.

824
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: But surely he must reflect on this episode and say, Okay,

825
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: what worked and what didn't, and probably a lot of

826
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: it didn't work, the part about scolding and this being

827
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: like bad for the fighter. I mean, here's what I

828
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: would say. I saw a lot of fighters come out

829
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and say, as you mentioned, Misha Tate and Landy excuse me,

830
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: Lando of Venada was out against its, as some other

831
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: ones too who are like you know, there's a limit

832
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: between angrily motivating through fire and brimstone and then depressing

833
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: through scolding the kind of thing that gets a fighter

834
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: to perform. But I would say and push back to that,

835
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fighters disagreed, as you are indicated, Laura Sanko,

836
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: I'll see us a fighting background as well, and then

837
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Cormier, Dude, these things are very much preference based.

838
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: One thing I have learned through the fight game watching

839
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: is when fighters have disagreements about what best practices look like,

840
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: you should listen to them because they're all basically correct.

841
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: Everyone is going to have a slightly different system, in

842
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: some cases even radically different system by which they have

843
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: a relationship with their coach. What kind of motivational tools

844
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: from those people actually work for them, what kinds don't,

845
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: And we don't really have a window into how those

846
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: things get developed in the training room. We don't know

847
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: what you know Aspen is okay with and what she's

848
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: not okay with. Jim West came out and apologize for

849
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: being a little bit harsh, but kind of indicated that

850
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: these are things that they had done in the past.

851
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: But here's my point. Fine, everyone is on board with it.

852
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: Everyone there looked at it and said, this is the

853
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: thing we normally do. Everyone else butt out, Okay, no problem,

854
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: I go back to what I said before. It just

855
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't work, dude, it didn't work. So my only complaint

856
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: would not be that he violated the sanctity of what

857
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: corners do. It would just be, when it's all said

858
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: and done, dude, did that shit in any way change

859
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: how you guys were operating. It didn't work at all.

860
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: And by the way, anytime you have a weird fighter

861
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: coach relationship of any sex or anything, luke when the

862
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: trainer is such a common deer of the attention and

863
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: sometimes get like remember when Teddy Atlass was in Michael

864
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 2: Morri's corner. He did lead him to a heavyweight title, right,

865
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 2: but he had to do theatrics and pull more out

866
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: of there and sit on the steel himself and just

867
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, event inevitably it almost where you know the

868
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: fighter gets jealous or starts to think, the coach gets

869
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: too much attention, So you already have that to begin

870
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: to deal with when you're implementing a style like that.

871
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 2: But Luke, you mentioned Jim West came out and apologize.

872
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: I do want to read his Instagram post to you

873
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: and ask you a specific question. Here was the quote here,

874
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: Tonight was not our night. It's been our night many

875
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: many times at the highest level, but not tonight. I

876
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: blame myself. Though it may not be my fault. It's

877
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: not up for debate. I take all the blame. Yes,

878
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: after the first couple of rounds, I may have been

879
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: a little harsh, but I know Aspen and at that

880
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: time technical conversation was not in the cards, being down

881
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: three rounds. Nonetheless, I own it and I'm sorry Aspen

882
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart. I will continue to

883
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: be better each time. And then he went out to

884
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: tag a bunch of media members in there to make

885
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 2: sure everyone saw it. Luke, I have UH. I got

886
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: a pretty extreme problem with the UH. It's my fault.

887
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Even though it may not be my fault, I still

888
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: take the blame. Dude, that's not that's not that's not coach.

889
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: That's not coaching right there, Like you wanna come on,

890
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that's like that that's

891
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 2: a little it's a little too far, Luke. Don't you

892
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: want to come out and do nothing but porter and

893
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: put all the blame on yourself and and sort of

894
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: like protect publicly now that this is spun out to

895
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: become a public thing, don't you want to protect and

896
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: snuff that out and be like, look, yeah it was

897
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Look we had a break. You know, it's on me.

898
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,479
Speaker 2: I I need to be better. We'll take care of it,

899
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: instead of like that, well look, and that's a big

900
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: thing to say publicly, Luke. And in as much as again,

901
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 2: we don't we want to avoid you know, well they're

902
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: alsowing a relationship. Look that that plays into how people

903
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: are going to respond to this. It just does, dude,

904
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: It's it's it's uh all right.

905
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to understand what sentence in particular is the

906
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: one that drives you nuts?

907
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Uh, saying outright, it was my fault, but then instantly, uh,

908
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: you know, hedging that with although I'm not sure it

909
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 2: is my fault, you know, I must take the blame.

910
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 2: I always take the blame, like really, bro, Like, oh yeah,

911
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: a real a real leader or coach would would just

912
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: take the blame there, right and then fix it behind

913
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: the scenes, especially with this thing spiraling into like a

914
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, but here's the thing.

915
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what you're saying. If you're going

916
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: to do an apology, do it the right way. I

917
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: get that. I'm not so sure he's wrong. I'm really

918
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: not so sure he's wrong. Honestly, I feel like I

919
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,919
Speaker 1: feel like we got a window into the particular kind

920
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: of dynamic that involves two people that have it. To

921
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: your point, I think well raised that are going to

922
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: have a complex, different set of interactions that have nothing

923
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: to do with cornerman trainer fighter, that are going to

924
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: bleed over into it and affect the way that it looks,

925
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: and we're all going to try to make judgments about

926
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: it based on just one aspect of it that clearly

927
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: was not working, and that can get into difficult territory

928
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: Like dude, like, did he really violate some kind of

929
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: trust between he and Aspen? I don't know that he did.

930
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: Did he do something he's never done before that hasn't worked?

931
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Before with her. I don't know that he did. It

932
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: didn't work that day, I can say that for sure,

933
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: But like, did he really act inappropriately in the grander

934
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: scheme of their relationship, I'm not so sure that the

935
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: evidence for that is very strong. And so as a consequence,

936
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm like left with was that a great apology? No,

937
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: it was not a great apology, But like, is he

938
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: totally a material wrong? Show me where I don't know

939
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: that you can prove that.

940
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: Well, that's fair. I mean, there's definitely not the facts

941
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: screaming in your face that we know what's going on

942
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: behind and closed doors and whose fault it is, But

943
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: certainly enough for us to make a segment about it

944
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: and question it, Luke, because the presurements did not match

945
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: the ability or the coaching coming back.

946
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: So last thing, I'll saying this because the production stuff

947
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: wants us to move along. Last thing I'll say this

948
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: is a lot of times it's like, oh, what do

949
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: the fighters think about X? What do the fighters think

950
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: about why? And what you find is on a lot

951
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: of issues, not not every one of them, but on

952
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: a lot of issues. BC, they're split, like the fan bases,

953
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: some of them find it certain things acceptable, some of

954
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: them don't, and there's no real unanimity across the board.

955
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 1: The one thing I think there's unanimity on is that

956
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: COVID is the flu Other than that they have very much,

957
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: widely different views on the fight game. Okay, number four BC.

958
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know what to say about

959
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: these guys any more that we haven't already said, but

960
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: we just have to go back to it because it's

961
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. Andrea Orlowski and Jim Miller are doing what

962
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be basically the impossible. I mean,

963
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: these guys are I say this, I say this with love.

964
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: These guys are relics from a former era. Really, I mean,

965
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: they had their heyday a long time ago. Do I

966
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: recall watching Andrea Alofski fight Pedro Hiso? You know? I

967
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 1: mean what I mean this is a I can't believe

968
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: they're still around, But they are still around, and they're

969
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: deep into the twenties. In terms of the number of

970
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: wins that they have on the record. I think a

971
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: guy like Jim Miller's maybe one or two wins away

972
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: from sitting the all time most wins in UFC history

973
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: record BCE what can we say about Andrea Orlovsky and

974
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: Jim Miller who got a knockout stoppage in his win,

975
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: Orlowski wining via decision that we haven't already been said.

976
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: These guys are unbelievable ironmen.

977
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: I do wonder like it's hard for us to really know,

978
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: like what really deserves more acclaim and praise and focus

979
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: than something else. So if somebody has a short peak, Luke,

980
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: and they're absolutely world class for four fights, and maybe

981
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: they win a title, and then it sort of falls off,

982
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: whether it's injury or or age or or whatever, and

983
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: then you know, they sort of get out of the

984
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: sport early. We look at those people, Okay, they were

985
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 2: once great, But what about these people, Luke, that have

986
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: had periods where they were absolutely great, periods where they

987
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: were on the down low being fed to others, and

988
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: then somehow pulled that back up and just had periods.

989
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, to do this in your late thirties consistently

990
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: and be a credible gatekeeper. And I say that not

991
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: using gatekeeper in the sort of way we use them,

992
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: which almost you know, disrespectful, but like really playing that

993
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 2: role and only not losing enough to where people are going, Okay,

994
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: you've kind of outlived that role. It's time to go

995
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: to be able to be where Diego Sanchez was a

996
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: few fights ago and then sort of fell off, but

997
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: where these two are now. And then to be Jim

998
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: Miller on top of that, Luke to go in there

999
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: and just absolutely hammer the guy across from him. Uh,

1000
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, the ghost Pepper Gonzales himself. Was that the

1001
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: guy Luke?

1002
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1003
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 2: Or was that the guy Nate Land where fought Either way,

1004
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: that's right, Aeroso go. You know, he went in there

1005
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: against the damn ghost Pepper and was the sort of

1006
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: the Jim Miller we don't always see. We see Jim

1007
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: Miller grind out fights and take it to you know,

1008
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: and I'll out wrestle you and maybe get a submission

1009
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: or just you know, out will you. He went out there,

1010
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: Luke and found an opening with that lead left hand

1011
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: and just milked it. I mean, he just took this

1012
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 2: guy apart with it. So then to see him do that,

1013
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 2: and I mean, you know, he just set once again

1014
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: the UFC record for most appearances. As you mentioned, he's

1015
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: about what one win away from tying or two wins

1016
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 2: away from tying Cowboys record for most wins. Him and

1017
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: Damian Meyer are tied right there. You know, as long

1018
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: as him and Cowboy keeps staying active, they're probably gonna

1019
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: keep flip flopping these a few times. I'd almost rather

1020
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: see them both in the retirement match, Luke, where both

1021
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: have to go home, and whoever wins, if they're tied

1022
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: in the wins record against each other, wins the wins record. Okay,

1023
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: for as long as that will last, you know, either way, Luke. Yeah,

1024
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna sit here and tip the cap to a

1025
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: great warrior in Jim Miller. Do you believe there's any chance,

1026
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: Luke that his goal of fighting on UFC three hundred

1027
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: after doing the same on UFC one hundred and two hundred,

1028
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 2: joining brock Lesnar is the only you know fighters to

1029
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: do that. Do you think he can get there? They're

1030
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: estimating on the broadcast that it would take another four

1031
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 2: or five years at this pace, and what he's already

1032
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: thirty eight.

1033
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: No, he can't do that. I mean he might, they

1034
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: might try when we get to that point, but in general, no,

1035
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: he can't do that. Okay, I'll say this, dude, We'll

1036
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: start with Arlovsky. I mean he has figured out a

1037
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: hack and we knew this. We called it on Friday.

1038
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: We're like, dude, this is what Arlovsky does now. You

1039
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 1: know he can't go back to being what he was. Dude,

1040
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Arlovsky used to be a heavyweight gung slinger. I mentioned

1041
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: to Pedro has a fight. You can go back to

1042
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot of fights where he was doing that, and

1043
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: some of those he won and some of those he didn't,

1044
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: but he did it a lot. That's not what he

1045
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 1: does now. What he does now is he is careful.

1046
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: He manages risk, he manages the rounds, and he finds

1047
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: a way to get these heavyweights who all want to

1048
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: ascend the ladder, but who just don't have another gear

1049
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: to go to. He did he borrows a lot from Blahovich, dude,

1050
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: slowing the fight down. But here's what he makes them do.

1051
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: He doesn't allow these new heavyweights. When I say new,

1052
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean relative to him. He's generationally different heavyweights. Really,

1053
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't allow them to use all the tricks they've

1054
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: been using to that point by slowing the fight down

1055
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: and not engaging with a firefight. Now, what they have

1056
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: to do is they have to use skills and tactics

1057
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: to control Arlovski, find the right range, land the right punch,

1058
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: exit or take him down or whatever. And as we know,

1059
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: he's got pretty stout takedown defense. In other words, he's

1060
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: making them. He's like, if you're gonna beat me, and

1061
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: some of these guys are gonna beat him, right, But

1062
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: if you're not, what you're gonna find is that I'm

1063
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna make you rely on skills that you just kind

1064
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: of got away with not having against other heavyweights by

1065
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: virtue of aggression or a big punch or something else.

1066
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you try and play the smart game

1067
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: with me, and if you can, great, If not, I'm

1068
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: just gonna keep feasting. And sure enough, he just keeps feasting.

1069
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: It's a bit of a commentary on the state of

1070
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: the heavyweight division, but it's even more commentary that this

1071
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: guy has figured out a crafty and frankly BC here's

1072
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: the thing. You can say, win or lose in these fights,

1073
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: and he's mostly winning four and one in his last five.

1074
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: It's incomprehensible. He's not taking a ton of damage, he's

1075
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: not getting me beat up, he's not getting super bloodied.

1076
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: He can do while as you mentioned, in his prime,

1077
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: he was such a destroyer and then became in his set,

1078
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: you know, in his late prime, a knockout or nothing guy.

1079
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: He's either gonna finish you or an elite I will

1080
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: finish him. I never would have pegged him to be

1081
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: somebody who can transition to making this a technical fight

1082
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: and as you said, slowing down the speed of it

1083
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: to give him that advantage. I mean, it kind of

1084
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: works better in heavyweight obviously, because some guys can make

1085
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: it pretty far up the top ten without really having

1086
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: those skills, because it can be so much a knockout

1087
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: or nothing or you know, weaponizing your cardier or whatever.

1088
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: Like.

1089
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: There are ways to win heavyweight fights you can't win

1090
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: in other divisions, but uh all either way, I mean,

1091
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: just to avoid Look, I know four or five and

1092
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: those have come in against you know, guys that we

1093
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: found out because of good gatekeeping matchmaking that that they

1094
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: weren't meant to be and it's look, it's like when

1095
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: gatekeeping is done right, some of those fights are the

1096
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: best fights because it's the old name pulling in that

1097
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: bag of tricks, you know, staying around and exposing the

1098
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: young one or the young one you know, handing it

1099
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: to him I love that shit, and uh, credit to

1100
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 2: both these guys most importantly to be in your late

1101
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 2: thirties and have fought so many big names and to

1102
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: not catch one of those losing streaks that leads to

1103
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: a to a losing your job. And I know Ralowski

1104
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: had to go to w World Series of Fighting, but

1105
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: he worked his way back. I mean, that's probably the

1106
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: most important thing. Luke, avoiding that that ending blow, that

1107
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: that slide that you know, no promotion unless your BKFC

1108
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 2: can promote you at that point. To be able to

1109
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: keep that shit going is ridiculous.

1110
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: It's it's very hard to do. He's making it look

1111
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: way easier than it is, and I'm blown away by

1112
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: how impressive this run has been for him. Again, it

1113
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: doesn't really changed exactly how far you think he can go,

1114
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: but it definitely makes you rethink how far he can

1115
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: make this whole process work. And that seems to be

1116
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: for now no end in sight. In the case of

1117
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: Jim Miller. None of us think he's going to be

1118
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: a little to recapture you know, top status in the

1119
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: division or anything, but it is that's amazing to me.

1120
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: He has been at it as long as he has again,

1121
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: he's from a different era as well, although our Labsky's

1122
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: even predates Jim Millers in certain ways. But to be

1123
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: out here doing this and you're still beating young competition

1124
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: and now you're stopping them with strikes, it just tells

1125
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: you that this guy has to be a martial artist

1126
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: in the way in which he lives his life. There's

1127
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: no way to not make this just who you are

1128
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: every day when you wake up applying the skills, learning

1129
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: new trades in the gym, training in the gym, working

1130
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: in the gym, coaching. You can't have a life that's

1131
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of in and out of the gym and then

1132
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: do what Jim Miller does at this stage in his career.

1133
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: You only get to do this if you've lived the

1134
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: life inside of it, and you've got so many tricks

1135
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: and so many tools to use that even these young

1136
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: bucks coming up, they just can't quite hang with you.

1137
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: It is so impressive what he has done.

1138
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: Well, look, it's a testament to his work ethic, because

1139
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: I think the reason why you don't see guys that

1140
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 2: have had big highs. And although Jim Miller's been you know,

1141
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: he's had a season where he was elite certainly, and

1142
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: on the urge of real title contention. You know, he

1143
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: didn't have the highs that Arlovsky had. But I think

1144
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: when you have big highs and then they fall apart,

1145
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: not everyone has the work ethic to, you know, to

1146
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: give everything you have when your ceiling may never be

1147
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: a title shot, right and I you know, and so

1148
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, Jim Miller may wake up every day and

1149
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: every week fighting to get into that title contention and

1150
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: still fighting to do it. I don't know if that's

1151
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: his goal or not, but you have to fight with

1152
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: that goal to stay irrelevant for this long because how

1153
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 2: many times I think it just comes down to pride.

1154
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: If someone's like I can't be as good as I

1155
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: used to be when shit came easy to me. I

1156
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: don't know if I have that same work ethic to

1157
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: adapt and learn and just be in amazing shape and

1158
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: be ready when the phone rings, as Jim Miller always is.

1159
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping this Jim Miller victory Tour, you know,

1160
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 2: Final Lap, really gives him a chance to make some

1161
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: money and to really get applauded, because you know, he

1162
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: may not have had the personality even to have a

1163
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: cowboy like run where he was like the darling of

1164
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: fight fans. The real fight fans know and love this guy,

1165
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: so I hope he can make a little bit of

1166
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: money on the way out, do some Mickey Ward type matchmaking,

1167
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: meaning you know that Gotty Ward fight. The first one,

1168
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: Luke came at a point where both we're kind of

1169
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: down on thee. I mean, you know, Gott he still

1170
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: had maybe one more run running for a title, but

1171
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 2: they were on the both on sort of like, Okay,

1172
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: we don't have anything else to do. Let's match up

1173
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: against each other. Hopefully there's one of those or two

1174
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: of those for Jim Miller, that perfect old guy fight

1175
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: where he could put on a you know, put on

1176
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 2: a fun clinic and we can appaud them.

1177
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: Would be amazing, all right, Last, but not least, we

1178
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: see it was a busy weekend in Combat Sports. Point

1179
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: number five here, if we can do it, simple question,

1180
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: who stood out to you in this combat sports weekend

1181
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: for reasons good or bad?

1182
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: Luke, I gotta go good. Here on a guy who's

1183
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: inevitably going to become a favorite of this show if

1184
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: he keeps this up. Nate the train Land where uh, Luke,

1185
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: this guy is hicantastic, unabashedly. But he's also, even though

1186
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: he's been alternating wins and losses of late, kind of

1187
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: figuring out how to fight down there. At MMMA Masters

1188
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: of Miami, he went in there against Ludevoy Klein, who

1189
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: came in shredded and knew what he was doing as

1190
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: a boxer, and Luke to see land where you know,

1191
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: not have to necessarily dig into the blood and guts

1192
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: Darren Elkins style, although him and Elkins combined to make

1193
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 2: a very fun blood and gets fight to kind of

1194
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: start to realize that he's in such great shape and

1195
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: he's evolving maybe faster than we can tell on the

1196
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: outside looking into see land Ward go out there and

1197
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: put on that type of performance submission wise, when he's

1198
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: known as really just being a brawler and as a

1199
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: pretty heavy underdog, getting a late submission win with the

1200
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 2: kind of you know choke and a Kondo choke that

1201
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: he had locked in earlier and almost had it but

1202
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: just stayed after it. Luke, he didn't necessarily have to

1203
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: go berserker to get there, and you know, every time

1204
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: he talks in the post fight interview, I'm gonna probably

1205
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: play it on have you seen this shit, But this

1206
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: guy's wild and this was a step forward in a

1207
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 2: lot of ways.

1208
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: No denying it. He looked his opponent was jacked. By

1209
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: the way. If that dude Kleine, he was huge. Although

1210
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: I thought Dean Thomas had the best advice during that fight,

1211
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 1: which is, dude, Nate Land. We are He's not quite

1212
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: as technical, at least from standing at range as Klein,

1213
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: but he can just get in your face and just

1214
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: make it ugly and grimy. That's exactly what he did

1215
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: and he got the win. Pretty goddamn impressive. I'll say

1216
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: for me, it's not for reasons good or bad in

1217
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: terms of who I'm highlighting. I could not believe this.

1218
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: In fact, we see dil the truth. When I saw

1219
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: the result, I texted you being like, how is this possible?

1220
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: It is possible. Mikey Garcia, a four weight champion, goes

1221
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 1: in there in a mandatory if if I get the

1222
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: details wrong.

1223
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm not a mandatory, Let's be honest. He was supposed

1224
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: to fight Ruguru Dezne didn't want to put up the

1225
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: money for it. Mikey at the last minute got paid

1226
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: in a million and a half to take on what

1227
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: we thought was no hoper.

1228
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: What was the guy's name, Martine, Sandor Martin from Spain.

1229
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sandor Martin, who had you know his best fight

1230
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: had been a loss to Yeah than a Yigit the

1231
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: same guy that roll Romero just sent to hell. So

1232
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 2: this was not I mean, look, it was like minus

1233
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: twenty five hundred favorite Garcia and he made Sandor come

1234
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: up and wait they did at a catchway to one

1235
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: forty five. Everything was tilted toward this guy getting sent

1236
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: to hell.

1237
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: And Sandor Martin dude, not they had one judge, had

1238
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: it a draw? Dude? It was not close. When this

1239
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: fight was over, it was only a ten rounder, not

1240
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: a twelve. Sandor Martin clearly had done the better work.

1241
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: His combinations along the ropes to give a guy like

1242
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: Garcia problems was incredible. His intercepting punches was great. He

1243
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: had more spunk, He was good about rolling with the

1244
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: combinations along the other excuse of the fence line with

1245
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: the rope line that Garcia was throwing, Garcia seemed, I

1246
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: won't say in water BC, that's not quite true. He

1247
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: didn't look languid, but dude, even into the eighth, ninth,

1248
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: tenth round when you're like, uh, Garcia is losing on

1249
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: my scorecard. He didn't show any urgency. I don't know

1250
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: if he phoned it NBC. I don't have quite enough

1251
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: experience covering Garcia's career, but he tenth round. He's clearly

1252
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: clearly losing at this point, and he's not really trying

1253
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: any harder. Meanwhile, Sandor Martin just looked to have the

1254
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: day of his life and he wins. Not controversial even

1255
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was shocked.

1256
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean this, look, you know you're shocked when we

1257
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,919
Speaker 2: didn't even preview or mention this fight last week. Why

1258
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 2: because the opinion in boxing was, what a waste of

1259
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: his own main event, what a waste of a million

1260
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: and a half paycheck in Sander Martin, by the way,

1261
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: only got one hundred and fifty thousand, So it almost

1262
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: didn't when you lose a fight that people were saying

1263
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't have been televised. And it's not that Santa Martine

1264
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: is incompetent, as you saw as a soft paw. I mean,

1265
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: he fought great, fought the fight of his life. But

1266
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: we didn't expect Mikey to be as lifeless. And the problem, Luke,

1267
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: was that Mikey Garcia had little pockets of success here

1268
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: where he was getting his power shots off, so he

1269
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: was believing that his pressure was winning and that he

1270
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: was ahead on the card. So that explains from his

1271
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: standpoint what looked like a lack of passion and to

1272
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: not really understand the circumstances there was telling and so

1273
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: it's also really just voiced a bigger discussion Mikey. I mean, look,

1274
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Speaker 2: he had almost two years off. He's had big time

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Speaker 2: off in his career ever since he got out of

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Speaker 2: his top rank deal, and he's been willing to call

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Speaker 2: his own shots.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: He's also just not the same fighter. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to say that he was in the first half its

1281
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: square because when he came back in that second half

1282
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Speaker 2: after sitting out for almost three years, you know, he

1283
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 2: was blowing dudes away and winning, you know, lightweight titles.

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Speaker 2: He moved to one forty and beat Lipin Yet in

1285
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: a war, and you know, then eventually moved up and

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00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: fought Spence. It's not that he hasn't been the same

1287
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Speaker 2: when he's been great, but I don't think he's active

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Speaker 2: enough and I don't think welter Waite is a division

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Speaker 2: for him, Luke, I mean he got handled by Spence

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Speaker 2: with ease and a fight where you were, you know,

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: you thought guys were some guys were kind of getting

1292
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: hipster takes of you know what. He's such a great boxer,

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00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: you never know he might be able to pull this off.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he rebounded and beat Jesse Vargas and he

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: looked good. But he's so much better at one thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Even at one forty, his power doesn't really carry like

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 2: it does at one thirty five. He's just a destroyer.

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Speaker 2: When he touches you, you go down. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's a if there's a commitment problem with making

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Speaker 2: the weight, Luke, I just feel like he should really

1301
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Speaker 2: re examine where he's at because Walter Waite ain't it

1302
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Speaker 2: And this was like lifeless enough where it was just

1303
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: sort of like where's that hunger, where's that passion? It

1304
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: just didn't feel it.

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Speaker 1: I think, dude, I think he was losing. I think

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: he came into this fight being like there's a certain

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: amount I'm willing to give to win. I'll kind of

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00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: push it a little bit relative to that limit, but

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00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: it requires anything other than that. I'm just not really

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: gonna try. I think he feels like he can rebound

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00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: from this with some other fight, which, to an extent

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00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: he probably could. He still got some name and some

1313
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: people still care about watching him compete. There were only

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00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: eight thousand people in attendance for this fight anyway, which

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: I guess is even a pretty good number considering what

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00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: they were trying to sell to the public.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a success, dude. They pack that baseball stadium.

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00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 2: That was a good crowd in for us.

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Speaker 1: Though it was decent. It was decent, But the point

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: being is there. You can't convince me that he was

1321
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: trying to win that fight by the tenth round. I

1322
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: think he was trying to like just hold on long

1323
00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: enough where he could kind of smile his way through

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: the result and then get another fight down the road,

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Speaker 1: because on that day he knew he was beat and

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Speaker 1: I don't think he cared that much. But we'll have

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Speaker 1: to see how things go. Now, this fight does shocking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as bad as this loss is, obviously doesn't kill

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: him and ruin his chances. But you know, there was

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01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 2: talk coming into this fight that he would move down

1331
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: to forty and take on Josh Taylor for all four belts.

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01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 2: He also had some public interest in fighting Gervonte Luke.

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01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: So I wonder if this loss. You know, it's going

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01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: to hurt him financially, but I don't know if it's

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: going to take him out of those conversations completely.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think it does. I don't think. In fact,

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01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: in some ways it could make him more of an

1338
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: attractive opponent, depending on what we're talking about here. But

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: in terms of Mikey Garcia, the four weight world champion,

1340
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: where could he go to ply his trade? That question,

1341
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: to me is a lot less intriguing. It's a lot

1342
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: less intriguing. I'll put it that way. All right. With

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: that out of the way, ABC, it's time for us

1344
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: to take questions from the audience. It's time for dms

1345
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: from dams. My daughter came home and did not make

1346
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of noise, which is amazing because she woke

1347
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: up at four this morning and wouldn't let me go

1348
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: back to bed, and so I thought for sure she

1349
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: would come back to the house after going to the

1350
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: park like a maniac who needs a hit of meth.

1351
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: But no, BC, she doesn't.

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: It reminds me of your pre license days when she

1353
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: was a young baby, and you would get zero sleep

1354
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: and come in hot off the train in New York

1355
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: angry as Elle Luke, no sullen jokes, not because you

1356
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: understand the pure art of comedy, but because you hate

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01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: anyone who steps in front of you. Those were the

1358
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: days on early MK.

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: I was tired, Bro, I was existentially tired those days. Now,

1360
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: I just know, so all your jokes because they're bad,

1361
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: all right, I'm teasing. I'm teasing, all right? From at

1362
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: underscore ze terrain? Is that a rain? After Nimkov's performance BC,

1363
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: does your perception of his chances against Yan change at all?

1364
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: Well, look, if you're gonna focus on him getting caught

1365
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: by a punch, a gatting dropped, and you know, against

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01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: somebody as patient and powerful as Yan, yeah, I believe

1367
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: if while I don't want to focus on that one

1368
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: hiccup there, that certainly illuminates what potential chances he can

1369
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 2: have against a finisher like that. So could he be

1370
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: favored against Yan? I would say no, But Luke, I

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01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 2: don't think, and you sort of alluded to this that

1372
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: Nevklov is out of the conversation that he has a

1373
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: chance if should he win this world Grand Prix to

1374
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: sort of exit that hold up the million dollars the

1375
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: title belt in the tournament championship claim and say I'm

1376
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: the best light heavyweight in the world. I don't think that.

1377
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: I think that's still possible. If he goes out there

1378
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 2: and finishes Cory Anderson dominates him, I think we're still

1379
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: in that debate. But as as you look right now,

1380
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: I think he could beat Plahovich. I don't think he

1381
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: could be favored against him.

1382
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Though, yeah, favorite, I don't know. I mean, here's the

1383
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: funny part about it, though, Like Corey Anderson also has

1384
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: a win over Glover to shaff so he's got wins

1385
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: over Blakhovich and to share again. Granted, the fuller picture

1386
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: is since that first win over Blovich, Blovic got a

1387
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: win in the re match, But okay, he does technically

1388
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: have wins over both the two guys who are fighting

1389
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: for the UFC light heavyweight title. If he goes in

1390
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: there and loses to Nemkov and then to share a wins, right,

1391
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: do you can you claim he's the best light heavyweight

1392
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: on Earth. I think at that point you could you

1393
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: could reasonably, But if some of the other circumstances don't

1394
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: line up. It's not a question of how he does

1395
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: against Yan. I don't know he's gonna do against Yan

1396
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: because they're not in the same organization. But could he

1397
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: still reach a similar status by virtue of some other circumstances, Yes,

1398
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: he could.

1399
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: I I think Jan's more as as cerebral as nemkov is,

1400
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: and that's a big part of his poise and why

1401
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: he's never in you know, he's never out of position.

1402
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Nemcov is pretty solid. Uh Blahova showed against

1403
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: Outasnia as particularly Luke his his IQ is pretty high.

1404
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: It is pretty damn huyep yep, yeah, totally, totally, totally

1405
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: and against Luke Rockold as well. You know, all right

1406
01:03:54,840 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: from at Lloyd H one two three, Has Ryan masked

1407
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: or bad had a massive decline since steamrolling the heavily

1408
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: Grand Prix or how do you explain his last four

1409
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: fights where he's one, two and one, because we kind

1410
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: of hinted at this before. But is there a way

1411
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: to encapsulate that argument?

1412
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: It's hard because, like I mentioned, you go back over

1413
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: the prime of Beater's you know, especially as ufc run which,

1414
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 2: by the way, his win loss record in his last

1415
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, ten or whatever, and uf he was very impressive,

1416
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: but he would lose big when he steps up and

1417
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: makes an early mistake. So it's not absurd to see

1418
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: him go out there and lose to somebody the class

1419
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 2: of nemcov or Corey Anderson. And even in this regard

1420
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: as shocking as it was to see Anderson land one

1421
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: punch and kind of finish him, it's a bit of

1422
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 2: same with as it ever was, Luke, even if we

1423
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 2: both agree that, you know, he's probably lost that step

1424
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: enough where he was as an elite like heavyweight just

1425
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 2: you know two years ago. Okay, he's not that anymore

1426
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: at two o five, But I refuse to believe until

1427
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: I see some legit heavyweight fallback too, that he's significant

1428
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: washed from those days.

1429
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, to me, it's like you could make an

1430
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: argument that there's not much of a departure, right, So

1431
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: he lost even when he was a UFC, he lost

1432
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: to Glover Leoto, Tito, John Jones, and Anthony Johnson. Since

1433
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: then he's lost to nemkov who I think is absolutely

1434
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: at a bare minimum on par with those names. Not

1435
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: John Jones, but you know, Anthony Johnson is Nimkov as

1436
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: good as Anthony Johnson was in that fight. Different skills,

1437
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: but yes, I do think he's as good.

1438
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

1439
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: He beat Leota fine, and then he lost to Corey. Okay,

1440
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: the Cory one was surprising for certain things, but Corey

1441
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: is is a lot better in some ways. I don't

1442
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: see that as necessarily out of step. It's it's the

1443
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: loss is kind of close together. His only other pair

1444
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: of losses close together like that was Tito and John Jones,

1445
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: and the Tito one was kind of accidentally he was

1446
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: coming off of the Jones fight due.

1447
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: The Tito loss is bad. It's a really bad loss.

1448
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean that, I mean it was bad. Then it's

1449
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: probably worse.

1450
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: Out when you think of like great fighters who have

1451
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: inexplicable losses, and like which one is the worst, this

1452
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: one is in conversation, given the circumstances for the worst.

1453
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: So what I'll say is BC in certain ways, the situation,

1454
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: I think you rightly articulated is not that different. On

1455
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: the other hand, that they're happening in close proximity, that

1456
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: he is getting to thirty eight, you just wonder what

1457
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: could be done to get past that level, to like

1458
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: get rid of that at this point, the guy is

1459
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of cast and you just kind of have to

1460
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: live with it. But as you indicated, you know, I

1461
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: think he's smartly playing this where if things don't work

1462
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 1: out a light heavyweight, could he go to heavyweight and

1463
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: win for a while? Dude, who do we really think

1464
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: that Bader has no chance against Valentine Moldovsky? I don't

1465
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: think that. I think he can very much win that fight.

1466
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe he's not what he once was.

1467
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: But the idea that he's just trash to throw away

1468
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: seems a little premature. It seems misguided, Luke mis misguided? Wrong.

1469
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: How about from at buzz the blogger, what is more

1470
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: unnecessary BC pushing the drug rug merch or Luke giving

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: seventeen spoiler alert warnings before an Instant Analysis episode. Now,

1472
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: in my defense, the reason why I do this is

1473
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: because if I don't believe it or not, which you

1474
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: just can't believe. It's like, who would even care about

1475
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: this video other than people who want spoilers or whatever.

1476
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: They No, dude, they get fucking bitter if you don't

1477
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: put a preamble at the beginning.

1478
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 2: So here's just a reminder. The world revolves around none

1479
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: of you spoiler alerters. Look, do I want you to

1480
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 2: spoil the new Star Wars film at a time? No,

1481
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 2: keep that shit away from me. Do I want you

1482
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 2: to even spoil reading the Dave Meltzer rag which big

1483
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: superstars are gonna come back in a month? I hate

1484
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: that shit too. Okay, But if a sporting event or

1485
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: the premiere of a television show happens and you don't

1486
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: watch it live, like, that's on you. And if you're

1487
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: gonna make that choice not to for whatever reason, and

1488
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 2: you're not protecting yourself by staying off Twitter or watching

1489
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: a freaking instant analysis clip, good lord, Luke, never ever, ever, ever, ever,

1490
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: ever ever again say spoiler alert during an instant analysis clip. Ever, Luke.

1491
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,439
Speaker 2: If that caused a mass on subscription, I'll stand firm

1492
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: in that, Luke, fuck them like, no, No, I'm.

1493
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: With you, I'm with you. I'm I'm one thousand percent

1494
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: with you. These people who it's like, oh, the Walking

1495
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Dead season's been out for six months, spoiler bro, Hey,

1496
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: how about this. Here's a spoiler warning. Your life is

1497
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: going to be disappointing to you because you're stupid and

1498
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: you'll never do anything right. There's a spoiler alert.

1499
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: Here's a spoiler I didn't go that far, Luke. I

1500
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: mean I just went fuck them. You know, you're like, yeah, okay.

1501
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: Here's a spoiler alert. You know how you are deeply

1502
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: unsatisfied with the condition of your life. It's never gonna change,

1503
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: spoiler alert because you're a fucking loser. That's why there's

1504
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: your spoiler alert. But if I don't do it, dude,

1505
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: they get so bitter, they get I get believe.

1506
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 2: I mean, who is going to seek out on YouTube

1507
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: and an analysis video and then be like, I want

1508
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: you to provide this analysis in a dramatic way which

1509
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: never actually tells me who won until the very end.

1510
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 2: What is this like? What is this like old time rado?

1511
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: And what are we doing here? Luke?

1512
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: You know I I'm with you, bro, I'm with you.

1513
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you. What about the idea about you are

1514
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: unnecessarily pushing drug rug merch? Are you pushing drug Here's

1515
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: the deal.

1516
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna how about this. I guarantee you the drug

1517
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: rug will sell out on the first day. I guarantee you, Okay,

1518
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 2: and then and then and whoever sent that in then

1519
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 2: then we'll find as Luke would say, then we'll find

1520
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 2: out what time it is.

1521
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: That's right, what time it is? All right? From Lund

1522
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 1: the House, Lundhouse. I cannot believe they put this in here?

1523
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: All right? How many times each day do you guys

1524
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: check the Fighter and the Kids sub reddit. I'm surprised

1525
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: this made it to cut to air. But here we are, BC,

1526
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: as the chairman of the board of what do you

1527
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: think you see?

1528
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 2: They're very They're very passionate fight fans. Luke, you know

1529
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 2: I uh, you know I I this is like, BC,

1530
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: can I see your search history please? Okay? I mean

1531
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 2: are you just looking at nude broads or are they

1532
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 2: in action? You know, like, what are we doing here? Uh?

1533
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: I've really been there before, and they've.

1534
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: Definitely been during this recent war.

1535
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: Luke.

1536
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we have many reasons not to talk about this,

1537
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: but what the hell is going on right now?

1538
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: Luke?

1539
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: In this rivalry? That's good.

1540
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: Here's here's what I'm trying to do to the best

1541
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: of my ability. I am trying to just la la

1542
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 1: la la la la my way out of this. I

1543
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,839
Speaker 1: don't know if that will work, but I am certainly trying.

1544
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm letting I'm playing. I'm gonna be Switzerland here, y'all

1545
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: wanna y'all wanna you know, the Allies and the and

1546
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 1: the Communist Army. You all want to beef over this?

1547
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Or I should say allies with the Communist army and

1548
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: then the Germans on one side with everybody else. The

1549
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: y'all can do this. I don't. I don't. I'm gonna adjust,

1550
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: but yes, if you've never been there, Like, who the

1551
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: hell is they don't like they don't like Brenda?

1552
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 2: No, they I thought they did. That's why I got

1553
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: into that channel At first. I'm like, oh, this is cool.

1554
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: They got this whole, this whole breddit board that like

1555
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 2: supports this show and like goes, you know, and yeah,

1556
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: how long.

1557
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: How long before our our subreddit turns into the same kind.

1558
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know that, Michael. Every day is to

1559
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: not turn my back on the people, because we are

1560
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: you know they, Matt, Like, when you and I do

1561
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: this show, we're really just crowdsurfing on their hands, like

1562
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: you feel that itch right, they're looking your crack. That's

1563
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 2: our that's our fans just holding us up and probably molested,

1564
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: maybe getting a little little, you know, a little treat

1565
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 2: on the way by.

1566
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: Lottle a little a little creeper shot.

1567
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1568
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, moving on there you go at Jonah Griff underscore.

1569
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: If the Eagle, globe and anchor make up the Marine

1570
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: Corps insignia. What are three images and symbols that would

1571
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: best represent MK on New m K Insignia BC. It

1572
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: has to be a gummy edible.

1573
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say hot dog. But yeah, I mean,

1574
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 2: we do have two symbols in our logo, Luke. We

1575
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 2: have the rising sun, which is sort of the light

1576
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: that I try to bring to this show, and then

1577
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: the fist Luke, which is that detailed foot analysis that

1578
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,799
Speaker 2: all those p one hardcore is with no sense of humor.

1579
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 2: Not only it consume on this show, but then right

1580
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: in the comments, man, this show be a lot better

1581
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: if BC was not it.

1582
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: You know, well that's not true. You wouldn't be better

1583
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: with that you wanted. But is there a third one

1584
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: that you could add? I guess a donk E No,

1585
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to do the dog ship, dude, it's

1586
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: so played out.

1587
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: It's very played out. It is very played out. I

1588
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 2: don't know if there'd be a third one, something phallic, Luke,

1589
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: or maybe a maybe a rake Luke.

1590
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the backscratcher.

1591
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm growing it back so my wife doesn't

1592
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 2: leave me. She she hated Luke. The you know like

1593
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 2: you've well you've never done it because you know, what

1594
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: was the last time you shaved your beard. It's really

1595
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: like a debt before you've Okay, so you you're what

1596
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 2: so wait, you're your wife has never seen you in

1597
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 2: person without a beard.

1598
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: She has seen me I had I I did not

1599
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 1: have a beard when I first met her.

1600
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,640
Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting factoid on the on the

1601
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: history right there. Wow, I was gonna say, if you

1602
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,799
Speaker 2: had shaved it off and just walked in the door tomorrow,

1603
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: your wife would be like, oh my god, my wife

1604
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: gets like that, even if I don't have the five

1605
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: o'clock shadow. Look, I don't know that.

1606
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: You know.

1607
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: They women like what they like, Luke.

1608
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: Right, they like what they like.

1609
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: Okay, BC, that's that?

1610
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, that is it for maybe a pepto bismal container.

1611
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, something like that. Probably a marijuana leaf,

1612
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: I think just behind the sun and the fist, something

1613
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: like that. BC. Is that a fair assessment.

1614
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 2: I think all the smoke has that, all the smoke

1615
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 2: has that on that ip on Lockdown, I think, Luke.

1616
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's working for him, so let's just steal from them.

1617
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: All right. With that out of the WAYBC, it's time

1618
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: for when we watch elderly abuse take it away.

1619
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I do every Sunday. I scoured

1620
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 2: the globe of the inner that for the good and bad,

1621
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: the huis and lows, and the in between, maybe even

1622
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: the ugly of combat sports and beyond. For this week

1623
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: it is have you seen this shit?

1624
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: Well? Have you?

1625
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: Oh? God? UFC Fight night in Vegas. Luke Jim Miller

1626
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier, walked away a walk off winner

1627
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 2: in his thirty eighth trip to the octagon. Let's see

1628
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: this finishing shot. Good God, I act like you've been

1629
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: there before. That's because he's been there before.

1630
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: Luke.

1631
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna look at that. You like his his

1632
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: new tattoo on tittye? Do you like that?

1633
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: Luke? I didn't see it, all right?

1634
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: All right, it's on his left peck. I'm not sure

1635
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 2: what it is, but it's probably pretty cool, I miss

1636
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: Jim Miller. It's probably pretty cool, all right, Luke. Let's

1637
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: go mention Nate Land. Where can take over an interview

1638
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 2: at any time with his hick from French lick persona

1639
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: that I that I love.

1640
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: Luke.

1641
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 2: Let's hear the train talking to Michael Bisping after the fight.

1642
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I expected a submission.

1643
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: I don't my credit out here in the three.

1644
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: I still got power in his hand. That was a

1645
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: war time and now I just wanted to sell that there, Luke.

1646
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: His he has the voice of like a like seventy

1647
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 2: five year old African American blues guitar master, like in

1648
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: some club, and you know, like he's he that's a

1649
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,440
Speaker 2: distinct voice that I've heard before.

1650
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: There, Luke. Yeah, he was definitely. Uh well, I don't

1651
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: think he's doing a bit though, right, I mean I

1652
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: think that's how he normally sounds, right, Yeah.

1653
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: I mean he's got great one liners and inspirational quotes too, Luke.

1654
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 2: Let's see his quote that that was making the rounds

1655
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter there for MacLife. I mean, I mean that's

1656
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: well said, Luke, that's very well said. All right, look

1657
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 2: I'm on the train. I'm not clowning this guy. I'm

1658
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: on the train. He's he's becoming my guy, Luke. Okay,

1659
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: it is what it is.

1660
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 1: All right, he's he's he's infectious. Really, Look you.

1661
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 2: Went to Mongolia to find Batham waight, Dana, But garyl

1662
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 2: and Luke, did you see this beat down he put

1663
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 2: on Brandon Davis in the first round?

1664
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: That was good shit, this was ugly. This was one sided.

1665
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: Oh good lord, just not letting him have an inch.

1666
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that punch that he first dropped him with was fantastic.

1667
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 2: And look at this. Yeah there's the celebration. Yeah, wow, yeah,

1668
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: woo ha. Yeah.

1669
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: I think he's correct me if I'm wrong. Is he Mongolian?

1670
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: I think that's right.

1671
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: Look you're really doing that? Are you doing a bit?

1672
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 2: Is this a bit?

1673
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: Luke?

1674
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 2: This is about the fifth time today I've said something

1675
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: and then within like ten seconds, you're like, now, correct

1676
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. But I'm gonna tell you whatever Brian.

1677
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: Said I and I do hear you. I swear to god, dude,

1678
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm beyond I don't. I didn't plan it for it

1679
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 1: to be this way. Usually on Monday Show. I tried

1680
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: to come in bright eyed, and but she telled me,

1681
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: my wife is away on work and I'm just I'm

1682
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: running ragged. So I apologize you. I am listening to you.

1683
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 1: I don't have any distractions up. I'm just my brain

1684
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:00,759
Speaker 1: is it's struggling.

1685
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: Since when did this turn to couple's therapy? Luke, all right,

1686
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. I mentioned Misha Tate, who had

1687
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 2: some words for aspen Lad when she missed wait more

1688
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: than a couple weeks ago, came back hard at Jim West.

1689
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 2: This is abuse. What a douche. Let's keep these tweets

1690
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 2: rolling at Jim West Gold fifteen. You would never speak

1691
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 2: to one of his mail fighters that way.

1692
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: Hate to see it speak his mail fighters that way.

1693
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,719
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't. That's where you know. Yeah,

1694
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't fully agree with that that take

1695
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: without really knowing either way. But she would close with

1696
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 2: She would have done that without him. It's who she is.

1697
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: He will take credit for her win, but never for

1698
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: her loss. Trust me, she can only take so much

1699
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 2: of this abuse before it breaks her spirit. Luke, I'm

1700
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: not on the inside. It appears Misha has some level

1701
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 2: of knowledge of the inside. I don't know. I'm not

1702
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 2: saying that this is abuse. All I'm saying is I

1703
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't see him fully take credit for the loss in

1704
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: the quote either. Luke, Okay, I didn't like that.

1705
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: Fairpoint. That's a fair point. You know. He he was

1706
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: bitter about it, dude, she was real bitter about it.

1707
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's go to Phoenix Belcher two sixty eight. Luke,

1708
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: are you aware of Nike will Nick Brown? Check out

1709
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: this first round knee bar he put on Bobby Lee.

1710
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: You see this shit? That's Nick Brown with the bald

1711
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 2: head in the front.

1712
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: Luke rolls underneath, comes to the bottom leg and then

1713
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: perfectly let's see. Oh and then just inside he'll hooked.

1714
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: It from Oh, that guy's in pain.

1715
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: That's a weird knee bar. It's like an inside he'll

1716
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: hook k nee bar. That's weird.

1717
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: Someone to watch, Luke. He looks like he's up your alley.

1718
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: All right. I love his haircut or lock theirlove.

1719
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 2: It's very Fox Catcher. Yeah, it's fantastic, all right, Luke,

1720
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 2: let's keep it going. Bantamweight Jalen Bates nearly takes out

1721
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 2: his corner during celebration of his first round submission of

1722
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 2: Rafael Mantini. Looke, I feel like we see this a lot.

1723
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this kid's good. Belatore has something special with

1724
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: this guy. I don't know how far he'll make it

1725
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 1: be see, but this is a name for folks to remember.

1726
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: He is up and coming. He's very young, and he

1727
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: is beating the shit out of everyone. Belts were confined

1728
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 1: to give him some you know, up and coming experience.

1729
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: He looks like the real, the real deal.

1730
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,440
Speaker 2: All right, that guy almost took a ko one good

1731
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: Edmund should be looking off for that cup man. Good

1732
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 2: head movement. All right, Luke, let's go to Benson. Henderson's

1733
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 2: wife Maria opened the night in her amateur MMA debut

1734
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: with this first round submission. Not bad. Look, I think

1735
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: it was fifty nine seconds.

1736
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, she ran through this other girl like it was nothing.

1737
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: The other girl was Oho and two, probably not a

1738
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 1: great fighter. But you know, folks like, oh what about

1739
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 1: these squash matches do That's exactly how promotion works at

1740
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,600
Speaker 1: the at the regional level. You see this one and

1741
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 1: oh versus oh and two all the time. And yeah,

1742
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: she just took her down, got the back, put the

1743
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: choke on, you know, there's no real hand fighting, and

1744
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: then she gets the tap.

1745
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: I don't know was this a pro bowt Wikipedia set?

1746
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: It was an amateur bout. It didn't actually appear on

1747
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 2: the broadcast. Right, it was like a pre limb prelimb.

1748
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: It looks like an amateur about but I don't know.

1749
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it rolling. A MC fight nights

1750
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 2: somewhere in Eastern Europe. Check out Sharap putin Mago Metof

1751
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 2: with this elbow ko off the wall. Luke watched this

1752
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: closely and then they steps on him on the way by.

1753
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: He did the iverson over what's his face?

1754
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: I look at this, Luke, Oh god.

1755
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: W dude, and he walked into the he took every

1756
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: inch of it. And let's just see he steps on him.

1757
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: Cigarette on my feet.

1758
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 2: For putting this on the timeline. Good lord, that's good ship,

1759
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: all right, Luke his own boxing from Fresno. We mentioned

1760
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 2: that Mikey Garcia card. Let's listen to the trash talk

1761
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 2: between Devin Haney and Tayo Femo.

1762
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: We don't fight for free here. What was that conversation?

1763
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: Like, he's not going to do a mother thing, so

1764
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 3: we ain't got to worry about nobody fighting anyways.

1765
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: Continue, what was that conversation like, for you, moment you feel.

1766
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: That you gotta the only way you're relevant is through me,

1767
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 2: relevant through you? What are you talking about that's the

1768
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: only way before that. What are you talking about?

1769
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,440
Speaker 1: You? You're a clown.

1770
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: Because of you?

1771
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: But I got more followers, more followers, you know.

1772
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: We're talking about Look what it did to Ryan. You

1773
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about already? That's the world. How much

1774
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: money I make more than you?

1775
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: No, you don't, okay, do.

1776
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 2: We want to ask? You don't want to ask?

1777
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: Eddie?

1778
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,719
Speaker 2: You talk about following? All right, this is the problem

1779
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 2: with society today. You see what I'm saying. You see

1780
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 2: that's the problem with society today exactly. All about Wow,

1781
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: it's not about followers. That's why you guys.

1782
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: How you make it?

1783
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Always you want to make it?

1784
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: All right?

1785
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: You could cut it? Uh, Luke, I've got more follow

1786
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 2: out of you. Yeah, I've got more followers line than you.

1787
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 2: Sounds very Luke, Thomas Lake. And also the uh twenty

1788
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: four year old tale female going this is what's wrong

1789
01:21:56,280 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 2: with society today? Was great? But Luke, does it lead

1790
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 2: to a fight? I mean, they really should be fighting

1791
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: each other. They're two studs at one thirty five.

1792
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: But you know politricks, Luke, Yeah, I mean okay, so

1793
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,320
Speaker 1: help me correct me if I'm wrong. It is Hani.

1794
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Were Hani and Lopez ever supposed to meet on any

1795
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: circumstance by one of the other having a mandatory that

1796
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: was them.

1797
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Hani is the WBC champion. He was the

1798
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 2: interim and then they bumped him up when they made

1799
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: Toao Fimo the stupid franchise champion, which is just such bullshit.

1800
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,480
Speaker 2: So we have two WBC champions. They were never officially

1801
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: like paired up, like you must make this fight or

1802
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: they'll lose their belts. But everybody's like, hey, WBC, pair

1803
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: them up and make them must make this fight, so

1804
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: like we can see it because promotion and rival network wise,

1805
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: we're not going to see it right now until both

1806
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: become like legitimate pay per view brands, because that's how

1807
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 2: the shit works, Luke, But can we show also the

1808
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 2: video they ended up getting loose after the interview, Luke

1809
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 2: and did a little roast to nose Tayo Fimo Senior

1810
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 2: Junior are getting involved. His name they call him junior

1811
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: by the way, Tale's dad Tao Senior. I don't understand

1812
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: that at all, but uh, anytime Taalo Femo Senor is involved, Luke,

1813
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 2: hands could get through all.

1814
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: Right, And there's Eddie hearn just like letting this whole

1815
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: shits simmer.

1816
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he looks. Speaking of father and son Lopez

1817
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 2: though they know how to get down in training camp.

1818
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: You see this video that's floating around.

1819
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: This is you and me after recording a show in studio.

1820
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's you and me the day you got that

1821
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 2: medical license, Luke.

1822
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean show me the lie. I don't

1823
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: see it all right.

1824
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: Back to Fresno for that design card. Look who showed

1825
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 2: up in attendance, Luke. Well, look at those moves. Look

1826
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 2: at those tale moves that look at that.

1827
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Look at that, Luke, he's almost crip walking.

1828
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 2: What him?

1829
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, OKAYU. That dude's athletic.

1830
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 2: Bro, Holy shit, I didn't even know that was at

1831
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 2: the end of that video. All right, next one, Luke, Hey,

1832
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 2: Nate Dia is taking the fights in in Fresno.

1833
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: Luke, your thoughts, Hey, does Nate Diaz like the color black?

1834
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell.

1835
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: Him and my dad have the exact same wardrobe. Luke,

1836
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 2: You're not far from being a black.

1837
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: G I am. I am on the same I'm on

1838
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: the same trajectory.

1839
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 2: But it's funny, all right, uh, Luke. Also, when that

1840
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:29,839
Speaker 2: Mikey Garcia loss happened.

1841
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 1: This was Ruguru's response because I see so they believe

1842
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: that if he had won, that that that have the

1843
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: money in line.

1844
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, that they would have put Mikey Garcia against Ruguru,

1845
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 2: probably because his own could not fit it in I

1846
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: guess budget and date wise, they couldn't put up the

1847
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: money for it to make Ruguru the opponent, and now

1848
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: he lost it. It seems Luke so uh yeah, all right,

1849
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: Luke h top ranked boxing. It was in San Diego

1850
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: on Friday. We may have to be aware of this

1851
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: eighteen year old pro Floyd Mayweather protege Luke. His name

1852
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: is Floyd Diaz, but he goes by the nickname cash Flow.

1853
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: Uh.

1854
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 2: Floyd found him in Vegas. He seems to be a

1855
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: rising prospect. What do you think about this Michael Myers

1856
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: esque Halloween mask and knife to come to the ring with.

1857
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's weird is if he's doing it when there's

1858
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 1: no one in the audience. Look, the stands are like

1859
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: completely empty. I don't know where this was, but there

1860
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 1: wasn't anyone there. Look at there's one Donk right here

1861
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: to his right. Watch this there he is. Where's everybody? Else.

1862
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, cash a little.

1863
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 1: Better if there was like an audience, But there's not Floyd.

1864
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: But it's a good name, Floyd cash Flow, Diaz, Luke.

1865
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: He would go on to drop Jose Ramirez and take

1866
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: a four round unanimous decision to improve to four and oh.

1867
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: Oh god, seems a little bit brawly.

1868
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: That's some sloppy shit. Look, wow, cash Flow, Floyd cash Flow.

1869
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: There.

1870
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: I mean he did get the win, Luke, so we'll

1871
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: see what happens on him development. Also deep on this

1872
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 2: top rank card you want freaks, Luke. Six foot nine

1873
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: heavyweight Antonio el h Gante Morellis made his pro debut.

1874
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: Look at that tall drink.

1875
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: Of water Eligante. Wasn't that a professional wrestler from our

1876
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: high school days?

1877
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was. He was one of the worst

1878
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: in terms of being able to walk or move in

1879
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: the history of the of the genre.

1880
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: Luke.

1881
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Do you remember he wore that that giant man suit

1882
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: where they had like the body parts on it, Like, yeah, okay, Luke,

1883
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't find video of it. But this fellow Morellus

1884
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: would go on to score a TKO one over this

1885
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: guy with the big moves.

1886
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, old titties. There is not having a good day.

1887
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to the MMA side, Luke.

1888
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: This apparently is how Jspey jumps into bed every night.

1889
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 1: This is me getting into bed when I've had edibles.

1890
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I know I said it last. Dude, retired

1891
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: GSP is pretty weird. He's pretty weird, Luke.

1892
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like the Dungeons and Dragons guy who's also athletic.

1893
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that.

1894
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, You're like, I can't deny your obvious athleticism,

1895
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: but you seem a little bit like a nerd. Luke.

1896
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia heard his hand which pulled him out of

1897
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 2: that Jojo Diaz fight, but the week before him and Shack.

1898
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: Can we pull this up? Luke? Does this count as

1899
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: tips to tips? What do we got going on here?

1900
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? But it's like Lexi Impaler tips and then ordinary

1901
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:33,520
Speaker 1: man tips.

1902
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: I've seen that film before. It's called Rocco Loves Jenna.

1903
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: Luke.

1904
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, okay, let's keep it going, hey, Luke.

1905
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: AE w wrestling. Check out Jake Hager, who's rock hard

1906
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 2: with emotion as he slams down Junior Dosantos in jds's

1907
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 2: pro wrestling debut through the damn table, Luke.

1908
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 1: This is when you say pro debut, you mean like

1909
01:27:58,720 --> 01:27:59,919
Speaker 1: in a match by himself.

1910
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: He was in a six man tag match, which is

1911
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: three on three, and he had a couple moments, including

1912
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: this against Hagar.

1913
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 1: How did he do?

1914
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't, dude, I'm really out of it, even though

1915
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 2: I get back in every couple of weeks and then

1916
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,599
Speaker 2: I get out of it. I didn't watch. I saw

1917
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: highlights only I hear he did. Okay. I mean, people

1918
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: are very The whole Dan Lambert invasion angle is getting

1919
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 2: very well received, even though it doesn't make a ton

1920
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: of sense, because Lambert's so good on the microphone, Luke.

1921
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: And when someone's so good on the microphone, that can

1922
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 2: cause the great ones that they're up against to also

1923
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: be good. Here is Chris Jericho unleashing on Paige van

1924
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Zand and Austin Vanderford.

1925
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 3: I got a question for you, Paige van Zand. Yeah,

1926
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 3: you only seem to be wherever the inner circle is.

1927
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: You got a little bit of an possession with La Chapion.

1928
01:28:51,160 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 3: Maybe huh, You're maybe gonna try and slide into my DMS. Well,

1929
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 3: I wouldn't worry about it because I wouldn't touch you

1930
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: with your husband's genitalia.

1931
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: What are you having work? Also, I don't believe them.

1932
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: I think I also see it taking a lot of.

1933
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 3: Pictures for your Instagram?

1934
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 2: What kind of the filter do you use, Clarendon? You know,

1935
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 2: bimbo or bitch.

1936
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 1: A little personally?

1937
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: Luke? Does this?

1938
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 1: Uh?

1939
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: Does this verbal thrashing make you?

1940
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: Who are the people who can look at me in

1941
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 1: the face and say I'm wrong when I say this

1942
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 1: is rubbish? Like I thought?

1943
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 2: I thought you would have enjoyed that, Luke.

1944
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Okay, why would I enjoy bad insults like they're not

1945
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 1: even good?

1946
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we we usually enjoy bad insults on the show.

1947
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Luke.

1948
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's kind of right.

1949
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 1: They're but they're our bad insults, our Okay, don't witness

1950
01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: to another's all right?

1951
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 2: Hey, back to the action. Look, there was a boxing

1952
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 2: card called Crypto Fight Night. Check out Sajid Abid with

1953
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: this nasty ko coming up here.

1954
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: He actually rolled under the hook. Did you see that?

1955
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, oh my god, stop the fight boy. Satchin

1956
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: over there not having a good day.

1957
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jo Sanchin got there was like five extra shots

1958
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: that Sashen got from Sajid Luke.

1959
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 1: I can't wait till NFT Fight Night where everyone gets

1960
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: paid in NFT's aka scams and no one goes home

1961
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: with any money.

1962
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 2: Luke, I told you the Roly Romero training camp would

1963
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 2: be a wild ride. Here's what Roly's been doing on

1964
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 2: the weekends.

1965
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: Dude, I tell you what, I tell you what sign

1966
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,479
Speaker 1: up four KOs, Devin's biological father. I tell you what

1967
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: about this guy role Romero BC has this a million

1968
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: times correct, Which is, for as long as the fight

1969
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: promotion and the fight itself lasts, it's gonna be hilarious.

1970
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: And then this dude is going to take one of

1971
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 1: the all time great knockouts of our lives. It's going

1972
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: to be.

1973
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Here's Rollie breaking out his gravante Davis Pinata Luke on

1974
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: the streets.

1975
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Very clever. Yes, get it. He's wearing a bra so

1976
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: that that's that's hells.

1977
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it won't be cringe, but wha god.

1978
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: They're running up jee oh the car oh man.

1979
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:36,879
Speaker 2: Oh wow wow? Yeah?

1980
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: Well how much to get that tweet tattooed on your

1981
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: body somewhere?

1982
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Look, I mean this is pretty corny, this ship, but

1983
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 2: I love it, Luke. Okay, it's uh.

1984
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 1: I like the guy the accordion. The guy with the

1985
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: accordion in the back is really a MVP here.

1986
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't even notice that at first. Wow. Okay, Luke,

1987
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 2: Let's go over to not your dad, but some his dad.

1988
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 2: It's having a fifty eeth birthday party. Shout out to

1989
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Padre right here.

1990
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Oh no, Padre is uh oh Jesus, there's like three

1991
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: torn acls.

1992
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 2: What he's got? He kaot himself, Luke, he knocked himself out.

1993
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: This looked like Romero Widman.

1994
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 1: Look at this.

1995
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 2: Need to the back of the head too, by that

1996
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: mariachi guy.

1997
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Wow, the guy the dad is laying there like he

1998
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: got shot.

1999
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 2: Dude, he's out cold. Need to the back of the head, Luke.

2000
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Oh is that what it was, because he just looks

2001
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 1: like he got killed. Look at him? Yeah, look at that.

2002
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at that. Look at Senor Barria

2003
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: right there.

2004
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 2: Get Padre an undershirt, please hold off on the takenos. Yeah,

2005
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,080
Speaker 2: all right, Luke, Let's go over to the playground. You

2006
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,799
Speaker 2: said your your daughter loves these. You're at this playground.

2007
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: You can learn sex education.

2008
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 1: While you say it has to be photoshopped, that has

2009
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 1: to be photoshopped.

2010
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: Talk to your boy Slash. He's been a very interesting

2011
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: ig follow, Luke. Okay, that's all I gotta say there, Luke,

2012
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: you love it when dirty dancing goes wrong and white

2013
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 2: people try to swazee themselves to neck and back injuries.

2014
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: Yep, here we go. You deserve every bit of this.

2015
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 2: You She's had the time of her life to be fair.

2016
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 4: Oh o god, hey baby.

2017
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: I like how in the end he wasn't holding onto her,

2018
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: just her clothes. Yeah, he's like, yo, let me take

2019
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 1: off your bra to help you break your fall.

2020
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: Oh boy, yeah, I mean you know, you know he

2021
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 2: is the one man that she can't get enough of.

2022
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, dude, you know what, practice your breakfalls kids,

2023
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 1: because all right, it's gonna prove valuable.

2024
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: Louke. Good story here boxing in England over the weekend,

2025
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Chris you Bank Junior finally made his return and while

2026
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 2: signing autographs on the street in Newcastle, can we blow

2027
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,160
Speaker 2: this up, Luke. I know sometimes fighters are asked to

2028
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 2: sign a boob, sign a baby, but check out the

2029
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: ball on this one. Fan. If we can get through

2030
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 2: these youngsters. First, Luke, this guy showed up with his microwave.

2031
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: But you sign, I need you to sign my motherfucking BCR.

2032
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 2: I need you just sign my beta mags please yes, yes.

2033
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: Yo, my form and grill. Can you sign that shit though?

2034
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's great ship anyway you bank would go on

2035
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 2: Luke to score a fifth round TKO. But the bigger

2036
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: story was this was his first fight since the law

2037
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 2: of his brother Sebastian. So not only did he honor

2038
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 2: his brother with his robe, but he dedicated the fight

2039
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 2: and had his nephew Raheem, who was the son of

2040
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 2: his late brother, right there. This was a good, good,

2041
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 2: wholesome moment.

2042
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: Luke. That's cool. Yes, I did see this picture. Good

2043
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: for him, all right, Luke.

2044
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 2: We've heard of a shotgun wedding before, but how about

2045
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 2: a gas station wedding. This is my kind of couple.

2046
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Can we blow this strap up?

2047
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, it's good that brothers and sisters can find

2048
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 1: the kind of convenience to get a mountain dew and

2049
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: a bag of chips while marrying one another.

2050
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: This is real, dude, Oh my god, this is it's hey,

2051
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: I've seen her. She on BKFC Luke, we.

2052
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,879
Speaker 1: Should get we should get Gay Mary doing this.

2053
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Tiger king style. Loo who gotta do it in a

2054
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 2: in a seven to eleven or company?

2055
01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: We gotta do it m Corey and gaff also marry

2056
01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: you or something like that. There's gonna be three of

2057
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 1: us in the pink and the pink shirts, yeah, with

2058
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 1: the cowboy hats, and then we'll be just like for

2059
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 1: like the after party will be catered by like Dorito's

2060
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: and Bang Energy Drink or something.

2061
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know where they're going for their honeymoon, Luke. Okay,

2062
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 2: liver or treatment, right, you know what.

2063
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 1: By the way, who is the guy who is marrying them?

2064
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,719
Speaker 2: He looks like the undertaker, Like guy's great. Yeah, yeah, wow,

2065
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 2: you know I have I kind of believe he just

2066
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: works the pumps, Luke. It might. It must be like

2067
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: full service. This guy just works the he's the cashier.

2068
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: You're damn right. This this this the guy who is

2069
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: marrying them looks like somebody who is very upset when

2070
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick kneels.

2071
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 2: Oh, he looks like the guy I sold my guitar

2072
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 2: to at the pond store, Luke, I mean it's just

2073
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: about the same.

2074
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Yet, Oh, this guy has definitely officiated. Here's the thing.

2075
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 1: You think it's his first? You know, gas station wedding BC.

2076
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Not even not even a chance.

2077
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 2: I bet you. You know, if you open up gas

2078
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: station divorces, that's a nice little spinoff thing for your

2079
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 2: family pump business.

2080
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, all.

2081
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 2: Right, I got one more for you, Luke, and it's

2082
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:13,280
Speaker 2: the T shirt of the week, your favorite I PA style?

2083
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this your dad or something? Who is this?

2084
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: No? But that's a great shirt, right, I p a

2085
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: lot one nice drink.

2086
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: We didn't drink once in Jersey City last week, and

2087
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: I got to tell you I'm so glad we didn't.

2088
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know it can't take it anymore. Yeah,

2089
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 2: it was great to see Chuck though he drank.

2090
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: All right, Chuck did drink because he's a sensible human

2091
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: and he's not completely washed like the two of us.

2092
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 2: Look, people should be seeing that that clip we did

2093
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 2: with Chuck in the next week's What about this resume review?

2094
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm not when does that come out?

2095
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Were you ready to announce who we who we reviewed?

2096
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: I think I think that's more a youth thing than

2097
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 1: a me thing.

2098
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 2: I can do it right now, Luke, do it. This

2099
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 2: time around, we put the seven and zero resume review

2100
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 2: curse with six finishes to the test when we look

2101
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 2: at the four division championship career of the biggest pound

2102
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 2: for pound star in the sport of boxing today, Saoul

2103
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez. You've been resume reviewed.

2104
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. We'll see how it goes.

2105
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 1: Should be interesting, Luke.

2106
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: That is a you know, that's basically Luke saying like

2107
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 2: you know that the Jennifer Love Hewitt meme from uh

2108
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: you know, I know what you did last summer, you know, yeah,

2109
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 2: saying to the heavens, like you know, if you're if

2110
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 2: you hey, hey, curse, if you're real, then then smack

2111
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 2: that l on my boy, Canelo. I'm hit my hit

2112
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 2: my boy big red where it hurts. All right. Oh

2113
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 2: oh you think you're a plus seven hundred favorite, Canelo,

2114
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 2: I'll show you.

2115
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: Is that it for? Have you seen this shit? Yeah?

2116
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:13,840
Speaker 1: That's it? All right? So that means it's time for

2117
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: odds and ends? What do you have for odds and ends? BC?

2118
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 2: Look, we didn't hit up a much of a boxing

2119
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 2: preview last week because the fights were of a certain level,

2120
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Speaker 2: although they proved very entertaining and Friday Night's top ranked card.

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01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, Luke, I don't give Emmanuel Navarete

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Speaker 2: the respect that he deserves. The former one and twenty

2123
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: two pound champion who gave up his belt moved up

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Speaker 2: to featherweight. Luke, it seems like he's headlining in an

2125
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 2: ESPN card like every damn week. He's so active, he

2126
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 2: fights every three months on the dot. And you know what,

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01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 2: he makes great fricking fights. And the best fight of

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01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 2: his entire career came Friday night in San Diego when

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01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 2: he took on Joe at Gonzales the WBO title at stake.

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01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 2: This was a blood and guts war that will be

2131
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 2: in the conversation for fight of the year. And the

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01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 2: reason why is Joett Gonzales. Luke, even though I started

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01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 2: this praise rightfully saying Navarette is a guy we sleep on.

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01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 2: He's got one loss and it was like fifteen years ago.

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01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean, here's a guy who's really fun and he's great.

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01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 2: But Joet Gonzalez, who we saw loose to Shaquir Stevenson

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Speaker 2: for his featherweight title opportunity before this, And also, Luke,

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Speaker 2: he didn't just get owned by Stevenson. Stevenson was dating

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01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,000
Speaker 2: his sister at the time too. There was family drama.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was just a rightfully so I think

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Speaker 2: we looked at Joette as saying, we know who he is.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know who he was. Luke, he came out

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Speaker 2: balls glazed, if that's even a thing, and he brought

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Speaker 2: that shit. And Luke, he had vicious swelling under his

2145
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: right eye. He had two cuts around it early in

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01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 2: the fight, and he fought through that shit to really

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Speaker 2: push the pace and make it a close decision. If

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Speaker 2: anyone hasn't checked this fight out, it's worth your time.

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01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 2: Just blood and guts battle at one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: six pounds, our boy Navarete with those crazy long arms. Luke,

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Speaker 2: he's tough to beat. He's not technically perfect, he's not

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01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: necessarily a slugger, he's not necessarily a boxer. But he

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Speaker 2: comes out there and he fights and this was a

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Speaker 2: This is a great theater, So shout out to these two.

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Speaker 1: Yes I have not seen that one, but I look

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01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 1: forward to watching it. I was still blown away by

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01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: the Sandor Martine performance. For my odds and NSBC, I

2158
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about this, it's like

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01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:18,839
Speaker 1: partly it's like, if you commit crimes in European parties,

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01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 1: does it even really exist? But McGregor has allegedly, we

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Speaker 1: should sort of note allegedly here punched an Italian DJ

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01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: who he was partying with over the weekend. The way

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Speaker 1: it is told to us, I can't even pronounce this

2164
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: donk's name, but the way it was told to us

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01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: is that the two were hanging out after McGregor had

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Speaker 1: one of his children baptized at the Vatican. If you

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01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: can believe that, Wow, and everything was fine and it

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01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 1: was going well, and then I guess McGregor had invited

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Speaker 1: the DJ to another party, and when he said yes,

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Speaker 1: he punched him in the face. According to the Italian

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Speaker 1: DJ's girl friend BC. Do we care about McGregor punching

2172
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 1: Italian DJs?

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01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the same reason why when I when I got

2174
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Speaker 2: a pretty hard stance this time around against John Jones,

2175
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't about this specific transaction per se. It was

2176
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: about the total, just amount, just adding up, where it's

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Speaker 2: just constant and where you know, again a regular person

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01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 2: would would get a little bit more than a slap

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Speaker 2: on the wrist. At this point, what is going on here? Look, dude,

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Speaker 2: are we at that level? Maybe you can debate the

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01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 2: serious nature of the crimes and put you know McGregor's

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01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 2: recent run against Jones. You know, good God, which sins

2183
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 2: are better? Which sins are worse? Are both pretty bad,

2184
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,720
Speaker 2: but Jones has had some pretty severe ones within there.

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01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 2: Mc I mean, did he just fight with one leg

2186
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 2: machine gun?

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01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Kelly?

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Speaker 2: What are we doing here?

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01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: Luke?

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01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:38,719
Speaker 2: What is wrong with this guy?

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01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah? We're having like a mid like Cesco. I think

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01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,280
Speaker 1: it's Faki and Netty is how you pronounce it, faccian Netti.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Christo's Cristo Furrows the Italian Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, that's the DJ he punched to. I

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01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: guess it's famous. It's like, dude, you know this is

2197
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: we're back to the dude, if you're just beaten up,

2198
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 1: if you're trying to start fights with old minute bars

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Speaker 1: or Italian DJs or you know MGK, who looks like

2200
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,160
Speaker 1: if Heroin and Fentonol was a person, it would look

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01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 1: like him.

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01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Uh oh wow, wow he doesn't. I mean that's like,

2203
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 2: that's like you and I sitting out in a park

2204
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 2: like enjoying the breeze. And then you pull out a

2205
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 2: gun and shooting an animal. Look and you're like, yeah,

2206
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 2: they were annoying me. Sorry, try about that.

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01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, in any case, you know, he just looks strung out,

2208
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: but he's not a fighter. He's just an ordinary person

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Speaker 1: in that sense. You know, this is who you're trying

2210
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 1: to routinely get into conflicts with. Dude, something's wrong with

2211
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: you. You know what is it in this particular case, God

2212
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: only knows, But it's just another another like tick on

2213
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: the list of things where you're like, dude, this is

2214
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: this guy ever really coming back in the way in

2215
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: which like the real Conormergregger come back where he can

2216
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: be something approximating what he was against Eddie Alvarez or

2217
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 1: something like that. Is that guy ever coming back? I

2218
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: don't think that guy's ever coming back. I think those days.

2219
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 2: No, the absence in this case has not made our

2220
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,679
Speaker 2: hearts grow fonder, and I think it could have been.

2221
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: If you know, I've compared this before to like, you know,

2222
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,479
Speaker 2: when we look back in hindsight after a breakup, when

2223
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 2: we were the one who got broken up, and then

2224
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 2: you're like, man, I wish I could have those you know,

2225
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 2: eight months back of when I just sat around did

2226
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 2: nothing and was sappy on the phone all the time.

2227
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: You know, you had to you had to get through it.

2228
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,760
Speaker 2: You had to grow, Luke. But you wish McGregor can

2229
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 2: look back and have not given us any insights to

2230
01:44:22,880 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 2: his psyche, his healing, his recovery, or any of that

2231
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 2: shit from this injury, so that the time would have

2232
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 2: been fonder to the badass that was once in there,

2233
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,679
Speaker 2: and we we kind of hope and want is still

2234
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure he's taken constant steps back in

2235
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 2: the court of public opinion in terms of where he's

2236
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 2: at and could be at after this injury, and you know,

2237
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 2: his character and makeup and all that stuff. I mean,

2238
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 2: it's just been just constant shit. So if I was

2239
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 2: running his PR and had a influence in there, it

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01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 2: would be like, h yeah, can we uh can we

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01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 2: please we please just get this guy, you know, fix

2242
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 2: and get him off the uh. But uh, you know, Luke,

2243
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 2: it feels like, I mean, do you feel like we're

2244
01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 2: in a runaway car without breaks, gonna crash badly at

2245
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 2: the end.

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01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to see Yeah, this one individually means hard

2247
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: to really know, But like, where am I most curious.

2248
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm most curious to see how this ultimately plays out

2249
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 1: into one big event, which it will, what that will be,

2250
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:24,840
Speaker 1: and when that will be. Your guess is as good

2251
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 1: as mine, but it's it's going. Almost all of these

2252
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,839
Speaker 1: unless there's real reformation, dude, almost all of these poorly,

2253
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 1: you know, although I will say he's also had a

2254
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,960
Speaker 1: series of like okay, Dolly throwing. Notwithstanding, he's had a

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01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 1: series of these smaller incidents all the time, punching the

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01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 1: guy in the pub, this one, the Miami cell phone thing.

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01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,520
Speaker 1: You know. He tends to get into these little small

2258
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 1: skirmish seem to amount to anything. Yeah, God, her jumping

2259
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: in the cage, that whole thing. By the way, our

2260
01:45:55,200 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: staff is now telling us this far too late, but uh.

2261
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Yombolohovich tweeted about how Corey left the UFC and is

2262
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: not claiming to be the best. Quote Yoanbohovich says, hold up,

2263
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: so a guy who bolted from the UFC after I

2264
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 1: slept him and almost made him retired. He got a

2265
01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: couple of wins in the Second League and claims he's

2266
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: the best. Maybe I punched him too hard. No class

2267
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:20,120
Speaker 1: in winter defeat Corey there's levels to this. Wow. Wow,

2268
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 1: well laying down the gauntlet. Corey responded apparently as well.

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01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't have his response.

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01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: Look, you think it's creepy that yoan belhowic hangs on

2271
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 2: to that rope of some guy that hung himself in

2272
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 2: a forest. I'm not into that.

2273
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not as into it as others are. Corey responds,

2274
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: let's not forget what happened to you the first time

2275
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:42,799
Speaker 1: I left you looking like elephant man and you posted

2276
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:47,640
Speaker 1: I need to rethink my career. Okay, it's a not

2277
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 1: a bad response.

2278
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 2: Justice Monday for you.

2279
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 1: Here there you go, BC. I gotta remind everyone you

2280
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 1: gotta like this video, you gotta subscribe. I apologize you

2281
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 1: one more time. BC. I just am tired in a way.

2282
01:46:59,120 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to explain. I should have been a little

2283
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 1: bit more alert about things you were saying. But I

2284
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 1: promise I was trying. I really was. If you want

2285
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: to follow us on social media, I did, dude. I'm

2286
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: just I'm struggling a little bit. But here everything you

2287
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,160
Speaker 1: want to follow right there on the social media Morning

2288
01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: Combat's name is consistent. BNBC have slightly different names between

2289
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. You want to email the show for

2290
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: Wednesday's fan subs or Friday's dead wrong. Morningcombat at gmail

2291
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 1: dot com. New merch, as BC indicated, is up on

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01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 1: the store now Morningcombat dot Store, including Halloween editions, which,

2293
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:35,840
Speaker 1: by the way, that means limited time only. They're not

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01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 1: going to be there forever. So if you want the

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01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: Halloween edition stuff, now's your time to get it right there.

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Speaker 1: Morning can't.

2297
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,639
Speaker 2: You can't be buying that ship on our bor day, Luke. Okay,

2298
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 2: it's now or never for this stuff.

2299
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: Okay, either pull the trigger or don't.

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01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 2: We got an line inspired by by by our old producer, Luke.

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01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that as well. We certainly will

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Speaker 1: not do that. You can go to showtime dot com

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01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: to thirty day free trial. If you'd like it, you

2304
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: can keep it. If not, you could pound sand be

2305
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: on the lookout for MK extra credit. We'll talk about

2306
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: some of the fights we didn't get to here. B

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01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 1: see anything else that the audience should know for today.

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01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

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01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 1: That's it.

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01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I was kind of into MK dradles, Luke,

2311
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: we can make them out of clay.

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01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,760
Speaker 1: I would be very into that, But we could do that.

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01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I just have a sense for commercialism, and it

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01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: would you would go too far.

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01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 1: It would really probably so, probably so all right, so

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01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 1: thanks to CBA Sports, Malka, Showtime, everybody else who makes

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01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: this possible. That's the King of Connecticut, Brian Campbell. I'm

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas. Until next time, all of your gains be loyal.