Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Falling with
Speaker 1: Style from a tiny dragon to a sky diver without
Speaker 1: a parachute, we're looking at some of the world's most
Speaker 1: spectacularly styl ish fall Discover this more as we answer
Speaker 1: the ageled question how do you make a splash in
Speaker 1: the dating scene when you're shaped like a pancake? Joining
Speaker 1: me today is front of the show and host of
Speaker 1: Secretly incredibly Fascinating the Internet's Darling Alec Schmidt. Welcome head,
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. That's always so great. Every Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I think here, I think we're all
Speaker 1: like this. First of all, I've selected for you some
Speaker 1: choice choice gifts or Jeff's whatever you used to say,
Speaker 1: and we will of course, this is a podcast, so
Speaker 1: we will need to describe these in detail for the listeners. Also,
Speaker 1: as always, include all the images in these show notes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we are talking about animals who know how
Speaker 1: to fall. They know how to take a fall, and
Speaker 1: they do it with pizzazz and flourish, and it is
Speaker 1: incredible These are not flying animals. These are animals that
Speaker 1: fall really well. I feel like I can really relate
Speaker 1: to them because I can't fly either, and then at
Speaker 1: the same time I cannot relate to them because I
Speaker 1: lack physical grace. It seems like they're really good at
Speaker 1: doing a movement that looks cool when dropping out of
Speaker 1: the air. I'm yeah, so I'm like, I do do
Speaker 1: take a tumble on occasion. I do fall down, you know,
Speaker 1: perhaps more than my fair share. Um. I sometimes catch
Speaker 1: my self in a cool way, though, so I think
Speaker 1: it all evens out. It's like, yes, I trip in
Speaker 1: my own shoes for seemingly no reason, but then when
Speaker 1: I catch myself, I think I look cool doing it.
Speaker 1: Even the way you said that was very stylish, Like
Speaker 1: I'll probably not get it verbatim, but like I take
Speaker 1: a tumble on occasion, like I'm imagining you had a
Speaker 1: fancy party, Like I take a tumble on occasion, and
Speaker 1: then Mr Bean movements all over the room, then tumble
Speaker 1: on occasion. Yeah, but yes, this is essentially what we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. It's okay to fall as long as
Speaker 1: you do it with confidence, which is what these animals do.
Speaker 1: And Alex, do you believe in dragons? Oh, I'd say no, broadly.
Speaker 1: I was I was thinking a lot about the Chinese
Speaker 1: zodiac the other day, and I was born in the
Speaker 1: Year of the Dragon, so maybe that's something. This is
Speaker 1: very upproposent because they're real dragons. Dragons is real breaking, fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like learning I'm real. It's great. Yeah, yeah, teeny
Speaker 1: as long as you go teeny weeny, little teeny weenie.
Speaker 1: Flying dragons are very real. The drake a lizard also
Speaker 1: known as the flying dragon. It is a real animal.
Speaker 1: These are little lizards about eight inches or twenty centimeters
Speaker 1: in the length including their tails, so you know your
Speaker 1: neil guys. And typically they look just like skinny, little
Speaker 1: olive green lizards with a band of yellow under their throats.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're very cute. They're very pretty, but nothing extraordinary,
Speaker 1: just lizarding around being lizards. Uh. They live in the
Speaker 1: forests of Southeast Asia and southern India. They are arboreal,
Speaker 1: meaning they live in trees where they eat ants and termites,
Speaker 1: and they are safer from predators than they would be
Speaker 1: on the ground. So you know, normal lizard lifestyle. So far,
Speaker 1: it broadly sounds better than the lizard laves I'm used
Speaker 1: to in my general situation. Like I remember, I don't
Speaker 1: in l A anymore. But when I moved to l A,
Speaker 1: my first job was in Santa Clarita, which is in
Speaker 1: like the desert north of l A. And there would
Speaker 1: be lizards on the ground and I kept getting super
Speaker 1: excited about it. And the people I know from the
Speaker 1: Southwest were like, no, there's just lizards around, and they're
Speaker 1: kind of underfoot and they're just little scrambly guys. These
Speaker 1: lizards sound like they're living it up in the tops
Speaker 1: of trees, a very happy forest society. Like yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's sky rises in their trees. And it is actually
Speaker 1: for these lizards, it makes sense because they are able
Speaker 1: to avoid predation by staying in the trees. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is widely speaking, why a lot of species like
Speaker 1: to be in the trees. It makes them less of
Speaker 1: a target for predators that prowl the ground. So the
Speaker 1: males therefore can be very territorial of their trees and
Speaker 1: do not necessarily like to share, and they will extend.
Speaker 1: This is what they do, like when they want to
Speaker 1: tell another male back off, I'm I'm I own this tree,
Speaker 1: they will extend a long, bright yellow dow lap. But
Speaker 1: a dow lap is is like a flap of skin
Speaker 1: under their throat, under their chin to warn other males
Speaker 1: to back off. Do lamps are also used in sexual
Speaker 1: selection to like attract females, So like, check out my
Speaker 1: little yellow do Hicky. It's terrifying to males and attractive
Speaker 1: to females. As I understand that this podcast often finds
Speaker 1: ways that the animals are like us, the humans, and
Speaker 1: am I supposed to be able to relate to an
Speaker 1: animal where the behaviors for fighting with other men also
Speaker 1: has something to do with attracting women? Is that a
Speaker 1: thing I'm supposed to relate to? Am I supposed to
Speaker 1: find that similar? I mean, I don't know, I don't like.
Speaker 1: I guess what would be sort of an analogous thing
Speaker 1: with with human males. I guess it would be, uh
Speaker 1: asking someone on Twitter. I don't know, Oh, I'm I
Speaker 1: was joking. I'm the kind of like all wearing leather jackets,
Speaker 1: doing masculine stuff. It's all like you know, like boxing,
Speaker 1: like way punching other authors was like gonna attract these ladies,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna mess up this dude. At the same time,
Speaker 1: naming Way is the most attractive of the authors. That
Speaker 1: is true, especially when he extends his dow lap. The
Speaker 1: ladies love. The ladies love a dow lap. I think
Speaker 1: that's that much as universal amongst all species is the
Speaker 1: ladies love an extendable dow lap, especially if it's bright yellow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they in addition to this incredible dow lap,
Speaker 1: they have another trick. They have flaps of skin connected
Speaker 1: to their torso that they can extend that act as
Speaker 1: gliding wings, and they can sail through the sky like
Speaker 1: tiny dragons. So, Alex, I have shared with you an
Speaker 1: image of one of in fact, a moving image of
Speaker 1: one of these lizards as it jumps off a tree
Speaker 1: and engages in flight. It looks man, I guess I
Speaker 1: watched some of them recently. It looks like basically every
Speaker 1: shot in a Marvel movie in a good way where
Speaker 1: somebody like flies off of that hell of carrier thing
Speaker 1: and just a sense to the earth for combat. It
Speaker 1: looks really cool, like it's the falcon doing that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it looks really cool. It looks like some kind of
Speaker 1: mechanized I don't know, yeah, like a little Superhero. It
Speaker 1: extends out. This maybe is a dated reference, but to me,
Speaker 1: it looks a little bit like a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
Speaker 1: Does anyone anyone know that movie? Anyone? No, wasn't that
Speaker 1: like the first Marvel movie? Keep up, Keep up. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like these these colorful wings that like
Speaker 1: extend out, like they unfold perpendicular to the lizard. So
Speaker 1: it is really cool looking and it's super weird because
Speaker 1: it is actually supported by extended rib bones. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: they're actual rib bones. Like they have these extensions of
Speaker 1: these rib bones, and normally they lay flat at their sides,
Speaker 1: but then when they want to fly, they extend outward,
Speaker 1: like if your arms were kind of laying flat at
Speaker 1: your side and then you move your arms and like
Speaker 1: a t pose. They do that with their arms as well,
Speaker 1: and then their whole, this whole flap unfurls behind their
Speaker 1: arms and forms these little wings. It is incredible. I
Speaker 1: think I'm even seeing it on the jift because like
Speaker 1: it does expand its wings and start gliding, but before that,
Speaker 1: on initial jump. It's basically a really cool torpedo. And
Speaker 1: it must because the bones are really aligned to the body.
Speaker 1: There yeah. Yeah, they run flush with the body really well,
Speaker 1: and then only when they really need to unfurl the
Speaker 1: wings they come out. It's uh yeah, it's really it
Speaker 1: looks very very cool. I highly encourage you to look
Speaker 1: up gifts of the Draco Lizard. I'll also include them
Speaker 1: in the show notes because it is they do. They
Speaker 1: look like tiny superheroes like Lizardman. Yeah. Like, if this
Speaker 1: was a movie, the immediate previous moment would be James
Speaker 1: Bond or Ethan Hunt talking to a guy from Langley
Speaker 1: who's like, and by the way, the territory there is
Speaker 1: really scary. What and then he does this show like
Speaker 1: it's one of these situations. It's really cool. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a like a secret agent lizard who's just learned
Speaker 1: that in the other tree. I don't know, some actresses
Speaker 1: being held hostage. I can't really think of secret agent
Speaker 1: lizard plotlines. I'm just not in that mindset right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's let's seek a more peaceful world,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can we can beat
Speaker 1: Lizards of the Plowshares, you know what I mean. Let's
Speaker 1: do that so in a single leap they can travel
Speaker 1: over two hundred feet or sixty meters, So this isn't
Speaker 1: some like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not peddling little hop
Speaker 1: they can seriously glide without losing all that much altitude. Man.
Speaker 1: I also, I'm maybe there's too much Prosidrick. Soon people
Speaker 1: will hear a wonderful, secretly incredibly fascinating episode where Katie
Speaker 1: Golden is the guest about imperial units of measurement, and
Speaker 1: I like that feet and meters I understand both of those.
Speaker 1: So when you shared both for both systems, it just
Speaker 1: hit me twice. It was great at such a long
Speaker 1: distance two hundred feet or sixty that's wild. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: no it is, it's it's I mean, And also think
Speaker 1: about how teeny tiny these guys are. It'd be like
Speaker 1: if one of us, like in one of these you
Speaker 1: know those like squirrel suits that people use like for gliding.
Speaker 1: They look absolutely bonkers, uh deadly and scary um, but
Speaker 1: it'd be like, I mean, you know, these guys are
Speaker 1: like barely these aren't even a foot long, So it'd
Speaker 1: be like traveling. I don't know, like four hundred times
Speaker 1: there body so like traveling. I don't know what's for
Speaker 1: like four hundred times your own body length in one leap.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, It's like it's like when I take
Speaker 1: up late in somewhere, but it's like, obviously I can't
Speaker 1: go this distance delta can. So if only we hadn't
Speaker 1: get enough of these lizards though, And like sort of
Speaker 1: if you if you tie each one with a bit
Speaker 1: of string and then attach them to like yourself, and
Speaker 1: you have like hundreds of these guys, could you do
Speaker 1: it with the mechanics of it work out. I'm headed
Speaker 1: to Charlotte Douglas. Let's do this, Let's make it happen.
Speaker 1: It's an airport. But yeah, they really look like fantastical
Speaker 1: little dragons, and they're very colorful to Their wings range
Speaker 1: from yellow and orange, and in males can also have
Speaker 1: these like bands of blue. It's truly incredible looking. They
Speaker 1: look they either look like a fantasy dragon or something
Speaker 1: prehistoric from like dinosaur times, which they're just they're just
Speaker 1: lovely and amazing looking. Oh yeah, I look, because there's
Speaker 1: there's other pictures you're down here, and one of them.
Speaker 1: The wings are really pretty. It's like a yellow with
Speaker 1: black stripes and a red edge to it. It's sort
Speaker 1: of it's almost like the Dilophosaurus from Jurassic Park. But
Speaker 1: if you took the face frills and put it on
Speaker 1: the sides of the bag. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of these gliding dinosaurs that you know, eventually,
Speaker 1: like we had birds come into play that probably evolved
Speaker 1: from some of these gliding dinosaurs. Of course these are
Speaker 1: these are lizards, which is the the shared the same
Speaker 1: ancestor as dinosaurs. But dinosaurs didn't evolve from like lizards,
Speaker 1: even though like they're all reptiles. Um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it is, it is really fascinating. What a thing, man.
Speaker 1: I have never made that connection. I guess I didn't
Speaker 1: know about any gliding lizards, but I never thought of
Speaker 1: that as some kind of intermediate stage or relative or
Speaker 1: part of the broader thing. Because birds birds as dinosaurs.
Speaker 1: Birds are birds are dinosaurs, uh, and their relatives, you know,
Speaker 1: their their ancestors. Um, We're probably a little kind of
Speaker 1: they were more reptile like uh than modern day birds.
Speaker 1: And of course I'm not like the this is a
Speaker 1: case of convergent evolution with this gliding lizard. I don't
Speaker 1: believe they shared any ancestors with like the ancestors of birds. Um.
Speaker 1: But still it is. It is fascinating because you can
Speaker 1: see sort of like these you know, these kind of
Speaker 1: different methods of flight. Also, it is fascinating that with birds,
Speaker 1: their wings are made out of extended finger bones in
Speaker 1: their arms, so it's a very different construction of their wing,
Speaker 1: whereas with these guys, their wings are made or I
Speaker 1: guess gliders are made out of extended rib bones, so
Speaker 1: it is a different type of wing. And so it
Speaker 1: is it is really interesting to see these like different
Speaker 1: methods of This is not quite flight because they don't
Speaker 1: gain altitude, but it is a really incredible display of
Speaker 1: anatomy of like being creative with anatomy of like yeah,
Speaker 1: I can just like shoot out my rib bones and
Speaker 1: then have a membrane in between each bone, and now
Speaker 1: I got gliders. Why not? Yeah? And like as cool
Speaker 1: as flight or gliding would feel. As you describe both
Speaker 1: of those physical structures, I didn't want to do either
Speaker 1: of them myself. I'm not I'm not interested. Like that
Speaker 1: sounds awful either way as an experience for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to grow out, but I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: good for them, your bones and stretched skin over them.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a good time to you. No,
Speaker 1: my yeah, I feel like my fingers and my ribs
Speaker 1: are my two weakest points, maybe toes like and you know,
Speaker 1: you know where else, but like there's there's a short
Speaker 1: list of areas I don't want to put the pressure
Speaker 1: of like lift onto you know what I mean, forget it.
Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, when you look at like
Speaker 1: when you look at the way that bird wings or
Speaker 1: even bat wings and you see like how long their
Speaker 1: little thingies are, it gets a little creepy. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: keep that inside the old skin there, please, thank you
Speaker 1: my request. Yeah, yes, especially especially bats, because with birds,
Speaker 1: while they do have us, you know, some some stretched skin,
Speaker 1: they a lot of their flight is on the projection
Speaker 1: of their feathers, so they don't need a big membraneous
Speaker 1: flap of skin to keep them aloft. A lot like
Speaker 1: that is what feathers do for them. But you look
Speaker 1: at a bat and it's all skin. There's no feathers,
Speaker 1: it's just like skin, and they're still able to manage
Speaker 1: flight with it. So I just I love all these
Speaker 1: different methods of gliding and flight. How you know that
Speaker 1: you have a similar end result of some kind of
Speaker 1: wing or glider but then very different body parts involved.
Speaker 1: Like with there are mammal gliders like the colugo, the
Speaker 1: flying squirrels, and they usually have a flap of skin.
Speaker 1: But it's a colugo the same as a flying squirrel. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's a it's like a very primitive it's not it's
Speaker 1: not quite a primate, but it is like it shares
Speaker 1: a common ancestor think with primates. Also with flying squirrels.
Speaker 1: I sort of always assumed there was a real correct
Speaker 1: name for those that I just don't know. So I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe it's girls. There maybe a Latin name,
Speaker 1: but I don't need to know it because because flying
Speaker 1: squirrels is good. No, colucos are um. They're actually found
Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia. Uh, And yeah they're related to primates.
Speaker 1: They aren't primates, but they're they're mammals that kind of
Speaker 1: like share a common ancestor with primates and they're really
Speaker 1: fascinating looking. But yeah, they they're also called like flying lemurs,
Speaker 1: although they are not lemurs like flying squirrels. They have
Speaker 1: just like this flap of skin that's like attached to
Speaker 1: their arms and their legs, and a lot of gliding
Speaker 1: mammals have the structure. So it's like it's similar to
Speaker 1: you know, the the flying suit that people that we've engineered,
Speaker 1: and that's some people who don't have that self preservation
Speaker 1: instinct will put on and then zoom down mountains. But
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, this like flap that's connected to
Speaker 1: their arms and then to their lower lay. But it's
Speaker 1: a very different style of glider than these draco lizards
Speaker 1: because the draco's there. Their gliders are not attached to
Speaker 1: their legs or their forearms. It's just attached to their
Speaker 1: rib bones that they you know, are able to with
Speaker 1: the use of muscles like either extend or lay flat
Speaker 1: against their body. So really it's it's just so cool
Speaker 1: that you'll have gliding at many different gliding animals, but
Speaker 1: many different techniques and different anatomies and different kinds of
Speaker 1: like evolutionary strategies. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, I like that.
Speaker 1: I guess it's nice that the air is available all
Speaker 1: the time. I like air being available all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't use it really for anything,
Speaker 1: but it's it's just like a space we could be
Speaker 1: moving through if we chose, and all these different animals
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's wide open up there. I'm going
Speaker 1: to figure it out something. Yeah, yeah, no, it is,
Speaker 1: it is, it is. I mean it is a testament
Speaker 1: to the pressures of like. The by having a any
Speaker 1: kind of available space where a living organism can be
Speaker 1: in like it is physically possible for them to occupy
Speaker 1: that space, and it is possible for them to evolve
Speaker 1: traits to take advantage of that space. It's almost inevitable
Speaker 1: that will it will happen. In fact, it happens over
Speaker 1: and over again. So it is incredible. Yes, But when
Speaker 1: we get back from the break, we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about a little guy who also is capable of impressive falls,
Speaker 1: but without a parachute, wings, gliders, nothing, he doesn't just
Speaker 1: straight up naked. Never mind, I don't want to shame you.
Speaker 1: To take a back. So we talked about the draco lizard,
Speaker 1: which is an incredible little guy who it's got these
Speaker 1: gliders on the side of its ripped cage that it
Speaker 1: uses to glideing compressive distances. But I guess like the
Speaker 1: only it seems like the only way that animals can
Speaker 1: survive these falls is through having some kind of evolved
Speaker 1: skin flap or glider or feathers or something. Except there
Speaker 1: is a little, a little dude who is putting those
Speaker 1: assumptions to the test. There is a world class skydiver
Speaker 1: who can successfully dive from the tallest trees in the
Speaker 1: world without a parachute, which I do not recommend you
Speaker 1: try at home unless you are a wandering salamander. So,
Speaker 1: the wandering salamander is a small, brown, four unassuming amphibian.
Speaker 1: It's just like about I don't know about the size
Speaker 1: of your hand, your palm, very tiny, guy, um. And
Speaker 1: they live in the redwood forests of California, and these
Speaker 1: trees are very very tall, and the salamanders can climb
Speaker 1: around a hundred and thirty feet or forty meters up
Speaker 1: into the trees. Yeah, feet and meters. Hit me twice.
Speaker 1: Leave it. So they will snack on insects they find
Speaker 1: in the trees. They're nocturnal. They also have no lungs
Speaker 1: or gills. They breathe through their skin instead, they do
Speaker 1: gas exchange with their skin. This is a trick that
Speaker 1: some yeah, this is a trick some amphibians are capable
Speaker 1: of doing. And this is why amphibians also things like gastropods,
Speaker 1: like they can breathe through their skin. But this is
Speaker 1: why they have to live in very moist environments. So
Speaker 1: these salamanders always have sort of this moist sheen on
Speaker 1: their skin, and they have to live somewhere where they
Speaker 1: won't dry out so much. So in these foggy, moist,
Speaker 1: sort of humid redwood forests, their skin will stay hydrated.
Speaker 1: And the because you need water H two O to
Speaker 1: facilitate gas exchange, which allows them to extract oxygen from
Speaker 1: the air. Wow. Yeah, and so we and so there's
Speaker 1: all these different Like it's a tiny salamander that can
Speaker 1: leap out of a tree impossibly and breathe without gills
Speaker 1: and lungs and stuff. And then they named it the
Speaker 1: wandering salamander. Yeah, the name is like the main thing
Speaker 1: about these guys. They go from place to place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't expect him to settle down. He's a wandering salamander. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh. They could have called them the super skin breathing,
Speaker 1: jumping salamander, but now, yeah, they were like this type
Speaker 1: of salamander. The big thing about them they will never
Speaker 1: pick a favorite coffee shop. They just keep going to
Speaker 1: different ones. I can't believe it become a regular think
Speaker 1: about it. Don't ask it for restaurant recommendations. It doesn't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the first bar we went to was good,
Speaker 1: let's stay here, salamander that it's like, and does anybody
Speaker 1: need anything from the tenth floor, I'll go get it
Speaker 1: really fast. It's like, yeah, it's more interesting. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: they are also able to leap from these tall trees
Speaker 1: and somehow survive with no skin flaps, no wings, no
Speaker 1: big webbed feet, no parachute, nothing. So it is really
Speaker 1: incredible to watch these little sale managers just floating through
Speaker 1: the air because you can actually see this. Researchers wanted
Speaker 1: to see how they survive from falling from trees, and
Speaker 1: they stuck these little dudes in a vertical wind tunnel
Speaker 1: and so you can watch the video of the little
Speaker 1: selement or just spinning and floating arms all out, all
Speaker 1: starfished out, just you know, free bird playing in the background.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. Is it just that like indoor
Speaker 1: skydiving stuff you can do in some city exactly? But
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at here, I think in his
Speaker 1: chif it's exactly what it is, Yes, vibing out like
Speaker 1: the people in the commercials for that. They've never done it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I want to do it. I mean, this salamander
Speaker 1: makes me want to do it because he looks like
Speaker 1: he's having a real good time. He's just he's just
Speaker 1: he is just vibing. He's chilling. Gravity has no you know,
Speaker 1: he's the master of gravity, has no fear. It's incredible,
Speaker 1: spinning around having a good time. Yeah, just like floating
Speaker 1: and kind of wobbling. Basically the movements of lava lamp
Speaker 1: stuff or like for like Windows media player visualizations or something.
Speaker 1: You know, this is really just viby, antarctic little movements.
Speaker 1: I like it. You gave me a very unethical You
Speaker 1: gave me a very unethical idea, which is um, having
Speaker 1: just a bunch of these guys in like a wind
Speaker 1: tunnel on my on my bedside to watch all day long.
Speaker 1: It's unethical. I would never do it, but now I
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about it. So these salamanders, it's interesting
Speaker 1: you bring up indoor skydiving, and the reason it looks
Speaker 1: so similar to that is they actually adopt a very
Speaker 1: human like skydiving posts. They extend their arms and their
Speaker 1: legs out, they hold up their chest and by like
Speaker 1: star fishing. Like this, they increase their body's surface area
Speaker 1: and the wind resistance slows their descent. This is what
Speaker 1: is called drag, which is not a drag if you
Speaker 1: are trying to survive a fall. So, uh, that's I'm
Speaker 1: a dad. That's how I announced everyone I am a dad,
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to survive a fault dad of rebelling. Now,
Speaker 1: I refuse um man. I I do sometimes just want
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, annoy annoy random children with
Speaker 1: like science puns. So I do think it's like I've
Speaker 1: I've learned this from my father, and I need I
Speaker 1: need to now do it to others so so they can.
Speaker 1: These salamands can also precisely control their trajectory by using
Speaker 1: their tail as a rudder or tucking in a leg,
Speaker 1: so they're not just casting themselves at the mercy of gravity.
Speaker 1: They are the masters of their descent. And so they
Speaker 1: are so good at naked skydiving that they don't really
Speaker 1: disind trees by climbing down. They just use nature's elevator,
Speaker 1: which is falling. Man, it's just but also thinking of
Speaker 1: the previous lizard that does sort of a leaping bullet
Speaker 1: shaped move out of a tree like c G I have.
Speaker 1: The action movies such as Later Pierced Brows and Bonds
Speaker 1: or Marvel have taught me, like the hero jumps out
Speaker 1: of a plane or whatever, and then there are two
Speaker 1: movements they can make. They can either do this drag
Speaker 1: thing that this salamander is doing to like slow down,
Speaker 1: or they can do the bullet thing to move to
Speaker 1: the thing. And I'm seeing I'm seeing animals do both things. Amazing.
Speaker 1: We could actually replace all c g I and stunts
Speaker 1: with with lizards and amphibians. Apparently, I would love that.
Speaker 1: Like you're watching you're watching Mission Impossible seven or whatever
Speaker 1: they're on. You see Tom Cruise like getting out of
Speaker 1: a plane and then suddenly just like cuts to one
Speaker 1: of these salamander's falling and with with the music and
Speaker 1: everything going. But you just like, you know, just to
Speaker 1: spend disbelief like this, this is now Tom Cruise the salamander. Right,
Speaker 1: if you're looking for the tucked tail, you're not in
Speaker 1: the movie. You know, you're not fully taking it in,
Speaker 1: like don't don't be, don't be a cinema sins about
Speaker 1: this people, exactly is it is? It? Really? Like it's
Speaker 1: the it is the you know when like people say
Speaker 1: it's the something of the law, like, oh, letter of
Speaker 1: the law, spirit of the law, spirit of the law.
Speaker 1: There it is. Wow, sorry, god, my brain, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta look for, like, you know, the
Speaker 1: spirit of the movie, not details such as is this
Speaker 1: tom cruise or an amphibian that lives in the redwood
Speaker 1: forests of California? Those are unimportant details. I also, I
Speaker 1: do like to imagine all stunt men and stunt women
Speaker 1: living in a redwood forest when they're not making movies.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that just feels right to It does feel right. God,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hang out with that crew. That'd be awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I can like that cabin that a commando who
Speaker 1: has become disenchanted with the force lives in before there's
Speaker 1: one last mission to bring them back. I want all
Speaker 1: stunt men to live in those And right, why haven't
Speaker 1: we had like a movie about like Hollywood stunt people
Speaker 1: have We would be so good. They deserve it, they
Speaker 1: get they do so much of the stuff gets a
Speaker 1: little of the credit. Um. But yeah, I mean, these
Speaker 1: these salamanders are they typically don't jump all the way
Speaker 1: down from the tree onto the forest floor. What they
Speaker 1: try to do is land on another tree, and this
Speaker 1: allows them to jump to other trees, quickly, find other
Speaker 1: mates of a danger, and just get around because they
Speaker 1: like to wander. I guess that's appropriate. Man, that's good though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you when you quit your tree, you want to
Speaker 1: have an ex tree lined up. It's just it's a
Speaker 1: better situation all around. Gold It's it's not a golden parachute.
Speaker 1: It's a confident salamander. You want to be a confident salamander.
Speaker 1: All these CEOs getting confident salamanders where they leave, which
Speaker 1: sounds fine compared to the real thing. So we've talked
Speaker 1: about draco lizards, the little real dragons that can glide
Speaker 1: through the sky. We've talked about salamanders who are so
Speaker 1: confident in falling they don't even need a pair of shoot. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the best falls that marine
Speaker 1: life can do. You might be thinking, like, how can
Speaker 1: an aquatic animal even fall? They're like in the water, dumb, dumb.
Speaker 1: I imagine everyone thinking at me with arms crossed, if I,
Speaker 1: if I may bring some extraordinary expertise in here. When
Speaker 1: they're moving downward, it's actually because they're swimming down there
Speaker 1: in water not air. Ah, yes, yes, sorry, I guess
Speaker 1: last section is canceled because Alex Alex out thought me,
Speaker 1: outmaneuvered me mentally. I was destroyed biologic and facts. So no,
Speaker 1: But what we are talking about our rays. So rays
Speaker 1: are those flappy oceanic gliders with flat bodies, these two wings.
Speaker 1: At times they have a stinger. Uh. They are cartilage
Speaker 1: us and are closely related to sharks. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, Manta rays, sting rays. Lots of
Speaker 1: different species of rays. I like that their shark relative. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: shark cousins and the There are many, many different species
Speaker 1: of rays. But right now we are going to talk
Speaker 1: about one particular genus, the mobula. So the mobular ray
Speaker 1: is found all over the world in warm oceanic waters.
Speaker 1: Depending on the species, mobulas can grow from around four
Speaker 1: ft or one meter to seventeen feet or five meters
Speaker 1: from wing to wing, so they can get quite big.
Speaker 1: I hope the really big ones are irritated with the
Speaker 1: really little ones. We're not in the same club. Try
Speaker 1: is hard to be us. We're basically like brothers, you know,
Speaker 1: the same You mean you need me and you and
Speaker 1: me we're the same. Yeah, um, I hope it's wearing
Speaker 1: that little hat that I've only seen in tropes about children,
Speaker 1: where it's a little ball cap that's speech ball colored,
Speaker 1: like it's five or six color propeller, like like a
Speaker 1: big what are you doing? Like I again or different species?
Speaker 1: I'm not your big brother. Yeah, yeah that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 1: Uh might if I hang out with Yeah. That hat
Speaker 1: has only ever existed as a prop in a prop house.
Speaker 1: No real person has ever worn it. I know I
Speaker 1: had a I had one of those little hats when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, the propeller hats. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a toy. But I was really sad because it didn't
Speaker 1: just like I had seen in cartoons that you you know,
Speaker 1: you get the propeller going and you actually are able
Speaker 1: to like take off in flight. Not true, right, not
Speaker 1: not even a little bit true. It was very disappointing.
Speaker 1: Is the last chunk of the episode animals that do
Speaker 1: take off? That? Yes, the last The last animal is
Speaker 1: man who uses the propeller hat to float down from
Speaker 1: amazing heights. Don't do that. Don't try that. It doesn't work.
Speaker 1: I tried it. As a kid. It didn't work, just
Speaker 1: led to like a scraped knee and and disillusionment. So yes,
Speaker 1: momule rays are also called devil rays, but they're actolutely.
Speaker 1: They're actually fine, they're actually cool despite being called devil rays.
Speaker 1: Most species of Mobula lack a tail stinger, or if
Speaker 1: they have a stinger at all, it's harmless. So it's
Speaker 1: a very fearsome moniker. But you know, there's chill, their chill,
Speaker 1: little sea pancakes. Not to make the show to sports sea,
Speaker 1: but have you heard of the Devil rays sports mascot.
Speaker 1: There's a baseball team in Tampa Bay, Florida. They're now
Speaker 1: called the Tampa Bay Rays, but when they were first
Speaker 1: an expansion baseball team, they were called the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Devil Rays, and I always thought that was just like
Speaker 1: a made up aggressive thing and that. But they've since
Speaker 1: changed it to raise because I think people were not
Speaker 1: into devil rays. They were like, what is that? Now
Speaker 1: I finally know what that is. I'm a humgus baseball fan.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. I think devil rays was a
Speaker 1: cooler a cooler name, both as someone interested in biology
Speaker 1: and heavy metal. H So, you know, it's just you know,
Speaker 1: go back, go back to being called the devil rays.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, and their their logo is a little
Speaker 1: devil roy. That's so cute. I love that. I think
Speaker 1: I think they were going for a verbal rhythm like
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay devil ray, you know. But now it's just
Speaker 1: the race. Yeah, oh my goodness, wow sports huh really
Speaker 1: going downhill ever since they got rid of the devil
Speaker 1: ray um. So yeah. They are also filter feeders. They
Speaker 1: just eat plankton. So they're really sweet little things. They're
Speaker 1: not scary at all, little sleep floppers, flopping glinding around
Speaker 1: under the water. They're so graceful and beautiful. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: form these big shoals where you just have these big
Speaker 1: groups of of these devil rays all kind of like
Speaker 1: shoaling together, swimming together in these big balls and like
Speaker 1: gracefully changing direction together. It's beautiful. They actually to me,
Speaker 1: looking at one of these mobular rays from like the top,
Speaker 1: they look like if Batman was like squished squished into
Speaker 1: a pancake, you see that, right, or like or like
Speaker 1: maybe like the like the bat wing, you know, his
Speaker 1: like airplane thing that's kind of shaped like a bat ish.
Speaker 1: It sort of looks like if a bat also was
Speaker 1: wearing Batman's hat, and then it's like, you know how
Speaker 1: Batman's caves. Sometimes they depict it with like a hundred
Speaker 1: specialty suits on a big clothing rack or whatever, like
Speaker 1: this is the scuba aqua whatever it is, right, but
Speaker 1: a bat that's wearing Batman's hat because they have like
Speaker 1: their heads are sort of you shaped, with these two
Speaker 1: prongs kind of coming off off near their eyes, and
Speaker 1: then the rest of their body is sort of typical
Speaker 1: ray you know, like like with the wings sort of
Speaker 1: the downward wings that it's kind of this like V
Speaker 1: shape um, and then and then a tail. I mean
Speaker 1: I can see how they look, I guess a little menacing.
Speaker 1: To me, they look cute. I like them, they do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of why I was so surprised
Speaker 1: to learn they're related to sharks, because, like I like,
Speaker 1: I know, this is not how evolution works, but part
Speaker 1: of my like cartoon brain wants to think evolution is
Speaker 1: one animal deciding to look like a different animal. So
Speaker 1: just the idea that there was this shark that wanted
Speaker 1: to be really flat and weird is fun to me.
Speaker 1: And these guys are like flat and weird in a
Speaker 1: really appealing way. It's great. Yeah, yeah, now they have
Speaker 1: decided to go the pancake root and it worked out
Speaker 1: well for them. Uh. And there are other nickname other
Speaker 1: than devil rays is flying rays because they do an
Speaker 1: extraordinary behavior where they leap out of the water, glide,
Speaker 1: flap their little wings, and then crash back into the
Speaker 1: water in a spectacular belly flop. And you've probably you've
Speaker 1: probably seen dolphins gracefully slipping in and out of the
Speaker 1: water as they jump barely making a splash. Mobula Rays
Speaker 1: they don't do this style for them. They pride themselves
Speaker 1: on doing the biggest, sloppiest belly flop they can possibly manage.
Speaker 1: This jip is so stupid. This I'm looking at a jim.
Speaker 1: Some wonderful person got really cinematic footage of like many
Speaker 1: devil rays doing this just direct leap into the air,
Speaker 1: flap back down into the water, maneuver the crap. I
Speaker 1: love that there's a crowd of them. It feels like
Speaker 1: this should be soundtracked, like when the Ewoks are celebrating
Speaker 1: at the end of Return, like it's it's a real
Speaker 1: just party going on of pointless sleeping, it's into the
Speaker 1: air and landing. It's great and it is I mean
Speaker 1: it is a party atmosphere because these are rays that
Speaker 1: are trying to flirt with other rays. By making these
Speaker 1: loud splashes, they create a sonic wave underwater, alerting eligible
Speaker 1: singles to their location. And the bigger the splash, the
Speaker 1: more noticeable they are. So male mobulas do this breaching,
Speaker 1: jumping out and splashing into the water the most, but
Speaker 1: females will also partake, and it's often these big groups
Speaker 1: of all these rays all putting on a stunning show
Speaker 1: as they try to impress a potential mate. Uh. And
Speaker 1: they can actually, they can get some serious altitude. They
Speaker 1: can leap up to six and a half feet or
Speaker 1: two meters out of the water. Wow. Yeah, it really
Speaker 1: looks like it. Because I'm looking at the mountains behind
Speaker 1: these guys and stuff, I kind of have a general
Speaker 1: sense of the depth and scale and everything. They're really
Speaker 1: getting up there. This is not like, this is not
Speaker 1: that thing where it's like, oh something, what am I
Speaker 1: thinking of? Never mind, Yeah, I love the leaping. This
Speaker 1: is just right. And then just like the flapping of
Speaker 1: their little because like the wings that they have are
Speaker 1: for uh, therefore gliding through the ocean. There there for swimming,
Speaker 1: they're not really for flying, and yet here they are
Speaker 1: flapping these little wings and a little more altitude. It's
Speaker 1: it's so cute. They're so cute. I think all rays
Speaker 1: are really cute, but these guys just like being the zest,
Speaker 1: the jois de vive of these little these so little
Speaker 1: actually they can be quite quite big. But yes, it's
Speaker 1: just incredible, just such spunk, right because they they're not
Speaker 1: going to take off when they come out of the water.
Speaker 1: They are flapping as if they are going to just
Speaker 1: proceed to fly into a tree and make a mast
Speaker 1: or something. It's really we're going to marsh. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it does look very optimistic, like they've just kind
Speaker 1: of forgotten that they're not birds and they're not bats,
Speaker 1: and they're just like, you know, I'm a bat now
Speaker 1: we and then falling back down. But yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's so cute. Yeah. Also, if I
Speaker 1: remember right, the Tampa Bay baseball team, they have a
Speaker 1: stingray tank at the stadium, and I wish it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of them constantly leaping or like when there's
Speaker 1: a home run. They do this, they would be great,
Speaker 1: but that's probably not how it works. No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I feel like if they were doing that, that
Speaker 1: would mean that they're in an amorous mood, which you
Speaker 1: know might not be appropriate for all the kids who
Speaker 1: show up for the baseball And it's a two one
Speaker 1: count to Jeff Cappinger. Also, we can see the raise
Speaker 1: are amorous, amorous, and the pitch oh man, actually, I
Speaker 1: take it back. I do want baseball integrated with animal
Speaker 1: mating rituals. But then you have to like because I
Speaker 1: don't want them to just be in a little tank.
Speaker 1: It means taking the baseball to their habitats, like a
Speaker 1: big floating lootilla of baseball right next to the rais
Speaker 1: or nothing. Right, it's it's field of dreams, but instead
Speaker 1: of walking out of a cornfield to to play ancient baseball,
Speaker 1: it's guys like going through a double ray party on
Speaker 1: surfboards or something you could do like underwater baseball. Just
Speaker 1: real slow. Oh yeah, right, the manager is going to
Speaker 1: have to take out that picture. I mean his arm
Speaker 1: is tired. He ran of oxygen um. His arm is tired.
Speaker 1: Though that's the main reason the third baseman is turning blue,
Speaker 1: which I've never seen this strategy before. You hate to
Speaker 1: see it. I don't know that much about baseball, I'll
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, you don't want the third basement
Speaker 1: to turn blue? That's pretty good crystal, all right? All right,
Speaker 1: well then maybe I know more than I thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you should manage my favorite team. But yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some real change around here you put me
Speaker 1: in charge. There was a clip the other I won't
Speaker 1: divert it too far, but there was a clipp the
Speaker 1: other day of the White Sox manager in the first
Speaker 1: inning probably falling asleep, like they had the camera on him,
Speaker 1: and it looked like was probably falling asleep. So I
Speaker 1: think you're ready. I think you could do it. You
Speaker 1: would probably remain awake for the first inning. If I
Speaker 1: was president of baseball, I would never fall asleep during
Speaker 1: the baseball Only outside of baseball times would I sleep.
Speaker 1: So already more well qualified, I wouldn't get rid of
Speaker 1: the Devil Raises the name of my baseball team, because
Speaker 1: what the heck? That is such a cool name and
Speaker 1: that's just the Raise. Come on, Yeah, these guys are great.
Speaker 1: They got such a baseball spirit and I'm proud of them,
Speaker 1: and I don't want them to get discouraged just because
Speaker 1: baseball teams are changing their names from devil rays to
Speaker 1: just raise. That's the you know, I see you guys
Speaker 1: out there, I see you you mobular rays. They could
Speaker 1: have changed it to the mobular rays. That would have
Speaker 1: been cool too. It's a cool name, oh man, I'd
Speaker 1: love that because the minor leagues especially, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of teams with relatively obscure animal names, like the
Speaker 1: snappers and stuff and so yeah, and the miners. You
Speaker 1: could some kind of like wandering salamander franchise. Also, mobulas
Speaker 1: sounds like a mob of draculas, so it sounds cool.
Speaker 1: There as the plural word for it. Yet a flock
Speaker 1: of draculas is called a mobula. Yeah, you thought it'd
Speaker 1: be a murder. Murder was taken. Murder was taken. We
Speaker 1: had to be a mobula. Biologist never used those funny names,
Speaker 1: like it's like, did you know, like a group of
Speaker 1: crows is actually called a murder on a group of
Speaker 1: vowels is called a parliament. It's like I've I've never
Speaker 1: see actual Like it's no, it's not really used in
Speaker 1: biology papers. I don't ever see it actually used really
Speaker 1: the different like things like flocks versus herds versus shoals, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, yeah, or troops, like there are there are
Speaker 1: general ones that are done for like very different animals,
Speaker 1: but when you get really specific, like a group of
Speaker 1: flamingos is called a flamboyance, it's like you just made
Speaker 1: that up right now, I don't. I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: even if it's true, I don't really see any anyone
Speaker 1: using that in any official capacity. I'm I'm really glad
Speaker 1: to hear that, honestly, because I really always felt like
Speaker 1: I really want to celebrate science and support science, and
Speaker 1: I really always felt like those nouns were specifically just
Speaker 1: British nobility around. I always assumed it's like an earl
Speaker 1: was bored and decided to just a group of British
Speaker 1: nobles is called a rough by the way, Yeah, uh, well,
Speaker 1: I think we've we've covered some of the world's most
Speaker 1: spectacular followers. Uh. And it's it's a good reminder. It's
Speaker 1: like you can fall down, you could pick yourself up,
Speaker 1: but you could also fall down a really fun and
Speaker 1: cool way that's also active to mates. So you know,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with falling, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like the especially I feel like animals. And again, I
Speaker 1: know evolution is not individual choices by animals, but it
Speaker 1: feels like so many animals have either chosen to fly
Speaker 1: or chosen to walk, swim, etcetera. And I like that
Speaker 1: so many of them are in the middle area between
Speaker 1: light and not flight. You're just gliding around. Look, you
Speaker 1: know it's we think that you can only conquer the
Speaker 1: skies by going up flying. No, like you can, you
Speaker 1: can be like you know what, gravity, You and I
Speaker 1: let's team up together and get something done and not
Speaker 1: instead of fighting gravity. It's like we're we're joining forces
Speaker 1: two for me to be a little salamander guy just
Speaker 1: jumping out of trees. Uh uh you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. Just you gotta work with physics sometimes, give
Speaker 1: yourself a little express elevator, you know what I mean this? Okay,
Speaker 1: Now we're getting dangerously close to telling people to just
Speaker 1: like fall great distances, and I don't don't want to
Speaker 1: do that. Human human beings are not quite We're not
Speaker 1: Our bodies are not as capable of handling these kinds
Speaker 1: of feats. Uh as these animals so you know, leave
Speaker 1: it to the professional like the like the little salamanders
Speaker 1: and the little flying lizards and the ray but not
Speaker 1: you know, but they're professionals. Yeah, buzz Lightlier. Also, I wish,
Speaker 1: I wish the buzz Lightyear movie was just kind of
Speaker 1: about the real buzz Lightyear learning how to fly. That
Speaker 1: would have been fun just watching tape of mobular rays, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do they do? What do they do? Like Chicken Run,
Speaker 1: but a fully man sized buzz Lightyear. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the movie, so I have no opinion
Speaker 1: on it, but you know, that's I just I just
Speaker 1: like to see things getting launched into the air. This
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound weird. The most recent movie I've
Speaker 1: watched his Chicken Run. It was. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. It's still great. It is. It's that was
Speaker 1: a good movie. It's about chickens trying to learn to
Speaker 1: fly to escape escape their egglaying operation. But really it's
Speaker 1: kind of a metaphor for unionization and and the fight
Speaker 1: against oppressive capitalism because I think I only saw it
Speaker 1: as a child in a theater and then now and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a pretty based movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but make it chickens. Well, before before we get all political,
Speaker 1: we gotta play a game. This game is called Guess
Speaker 1: Who's Squawking? The Mystery Animal Sound Game. Every week I
Speaker 1: play a mystery animal sound and you know, the listener
Speaker 1: try to guess. Hey, this squawking can be any animal.
Speaker 1: I know it's called Guess who squawking? But it's not
Speaker 1: just birds. Can be any animal in the world. Uh,
Speaker 1: in the universe really, once we find aliens. So um.
Speaker 1: Last week's mystery animals sound, the hint was don't blame
Speaker 1: the dog for this one, but it is the sound
Speaker 1: of a happy carnivore. Okay, So I promise this is
Speaker 1: not a rude noise and just play a part for you.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I'm not a child. So who
Speaker 1: do you think? Get squawk? Can anything's making this sound?
Speaker 1: I got an aquatic vibe from it and almost kind
Speaker 1: of a dolphin sound, But I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a dolphin. I'll just go dolphin. You are correct, Alex,
Speaker 1: good job, Yes, bonus points. Can you guess what it's doing? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the more difficult to ask. And I think
Speaker 1: I think I was able to get it because Atlantic
Speaker 1: Bil those cellphones were a prime animal at my childhood
Speaker 1: zoo that I later worked in as a guide. So
Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't like go through the dolphin exhibit
Speaker 1: on the tours. But I I've gotten to hear him
Speaker 1: a lot and it's a lot of like clicking and
Speaker 1: funky sounds, flicking and squeaking part noises. Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: it doing because it sounded happy. I'm going to say
Speaker 1: it was like rooting out some kind of food out
Speaker 1: of a thing. Alex You are so good, that is
Speaker 1: exactly what is happening. Nice job, well done up. Yes,
Speaker 1: so this is a dolphin hunting and closing in on
Speaker 1: a fish. You're like the dolphin whisperer, alex I. Brookfield
Speaker 1: Zoo was like training me shout at Brookfield z Brookfield, Illinois,
Speaker 1: outside Chicago. I feel like I feel like I heard
Speaker 1: that sound and I activated, like Jason Bourne, like a
Speaker 1: bunch of dolphin training just turned on. I don't know
Speaker 1: very much about that was a sleeper cetation. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: finish taping and be capable of like perfectly feeding dolphins,
Speaker 1: like I throw fish individually into their mouths or something.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have incredible skills. You're you get elected dissent
Speaker 1: and you start passing like pro dolphin bills and you
Speaker 1: don't even know why was it the cetacean candidate or so? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: As the dolphin closes in on its prey, it emits
Speaker 1: a terminal buzz which is so narrow that lets it
Speaker 1: precisely close in on the fish. And that little squeak
Speaker 1: at the end is called a victory squeal. It's a
Speaker 1: happy sound as the dolphin catches its meal, so it's
Speaker 1: it is happy and it did find food. So you
Speaker 1: are so correct. I am very impressed and a little suspicious.
Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same about myself. Yes, so I
Speaker 1: actually got some guesses that it was an orca or
Speaker 1: bluega which was closed but no cigar. Still, thank you
Speaker 1: guys for writing in your gifts. Is really good sleuthing everyone.
Speaker 1: You narrowed it down to a cetacean, which is impressive. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: technically that sound of the dolphin was from two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: since last week I aired a rerun so I could
Speaker 1: go on a little vacation. Um, So congratulations to Nathan
Speaker 1: A who actually guessed the rerun sound correctly. That sound
Speaker 1: was the rock high Racks, which is an adorable little mammal,
Speaker 1: little fluffy. Uh. And they are related to elephants incredibly
Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animals sound. The hint is the
Speaker 1: Sharks and the Jets are about to have a showdown,
Speaker 1: but they really ought to calm down. H So uh Alec,
Speaker 1: you gott guesses the correct answer is space alience what presiden,
Speaker 1: we got it, we got it, we did it game over.
Speaker 1: But if you think you may know what this is
Speaker 1: other than the space sailing space sil Lands, which he
Speaker 1: clearly is space aliens, you can write to meet Creature
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