1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show Falling with 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Style from a tiny dragon to a sky diver without 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: a parachute, we're looking at some of the world's most 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: spectacularly styl ish fall Discover this more as we answer 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: the ageled question how do you make a splash in 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: the dating scene when you're shaped like a pancake? Joining 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: me today is front of the show and host of 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Secretly incredibly Fascinating the Internet's Darling Alec Schmidt. Welcome head, 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. That's always so great. Every Yes, 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm very excited. I think here, I think we're all 13 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: like this. First of all, I've selected for you some 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: choice choice gifts or Jeff's whatever you used to say, 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: and we will of course, this is a podcast, so 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: we will need to describe these in detail for the listeners. Also, 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: as always, include all the images in these show notes. 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, we are talking about animals who know how 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: to fall. They know how to take a fall, and 20 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: they do it with pizzazz and flourish, and it is 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: incredible These are not flying animals. These are animals that 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: fall really well. I feel like I can really relate 23 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: to them because I can't fly either, and then at 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: the same time I cannot relate to them because I 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: lack physical grace. It seems like they're really good at 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: doing a movement that looks cool when dropping out of 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: the air. I'm yeah, so I'm like, I do do 28 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: take a tumble on occasion. I do fall down, you know, 29 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: perhaps more than my fair share. Um. I sometimes catch 30 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: my self in a cool way, though, so I think 31 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: it all evens out. It's like, yes, I trip in 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: my own shoes for seemingly no reason, but then when 33 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: I catch myself, I think I look cool doing it. 34 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: Even the way you said that was very stylish, Like 35 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: I'll probably not get it verbatim, but like I take 36 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: a tumble on occasion, like I'm imagining you had a 37 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: fancy party, Like I take a tumble on occasion, and 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: then Mr Bean movements all over the room, then tumble 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: on occasion. Yeah, but yes, this is essentially what we're 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: talking about today. It's okay to fall as long as 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: you do it with confidence, which is what these animals do. 42 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: And Alex, do you believe in dragons? Oh, I'd say no, broadly. 43 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: I was I was thinking a lot about the Chinese 44 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: zodiac the other day, and I was born in the 45 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Year of the Dragon, so maybe that's something. This is 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: very upproposent because they're real dragons. Dragons is real breaking, fantastic. Yeah, 47 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: it's like learning I'm real. It's great. Yeah, yeah, teeny 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: as long as you go teeny weeny, little teeny weenie. 49 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Flying dragons are very real. The drake a lizard also 50 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: known as the flying dragon. It is a real animal. 51 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: These are little lizards about eight inches or twenty centimeters 52 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: in the length including their tails, so you know your 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: neil guys. And typically they look just like skinny, little 54 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: olive green lizards with a band of yellow under their throats. 55 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're very cute. They're very pretty, but nothing extraordinary, 56 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: just lizarding around being lizards. Uh. They live in the 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: forests of Southeast Asia and southern India. They are arboreal, 58 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: meaning they live in trees where they eat ants and termites, 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: and they are safer from predators than they would be 60 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: on the ground. So you know, normal lizard lifestyle. So far, 61 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: it broadly sounds better than the lizard laves I'm used 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to in my general situation. Like I remember, I don't 63 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: in l A anymore. But when I moved to l A, 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: my first job was in Santa Clarita, which is in 65 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: like the desert north of l A. And there would 66 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: be lizards on the ground and I kept getting super 67 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: excited about it. And the people I know from the 68 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Southwest were like, no, there's just lizards around, and they're 69 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: kind of underfoot and they're just little scrambly guys. These 70 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: lizards sound like they're living it up in the tops 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of trees, a very happy forest society. Like yeah, and 72 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: there's sky rises in their trees. And it is actually 73 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: for these lizards, it makes sense because they are able 74 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: to avoid predation by staying in the trees. I mean, 75 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: this is widely speaking, why a lot of species like 76 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: to be in the trees. It makes them less of 77 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: a target for predators that prowl the ground. So the 78 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: males therefore can be very territorial of their trees and 79 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: do not necessarily like to share, and they will extend. 80 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: This is what they do, like when they want to 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: tell another male back off, I'm I'm I own this tree, 82 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: they will extend a long, bright yellow dow lap. But 83 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: a dow lap is is like a flap of skin 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: under their throat, under their chin to warn other males 85 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to back off. Do lamps are also used in sexual 86 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: selection to like attract females, So like, check out my 87 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: little yellow do Hicky. It's terrifying to males and attractive 88 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: to females. As I understand that this podcast often finds 89 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: ways that the animals are like us, the humans, and 90 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: am I supposed to be able to relate to an 91 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: animal where the behaviors for fighting with other men also 92 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: has something to do with attracting women? Is that a 93 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: thing I'm supposed to relate to? Am I supposed to 94 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: find that similar? I mean, I don't know, I don't like. 95 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I guess what would be sort of an analogous thing 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: with with human males. I guess it would be, uh 97 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: asking someone on Twitter. I don't know, Oh, I'm I 98 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: was joking. I'm the kind of like all wearing leather jackets, 99 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: doing masculine stuff. It's all like you know, like boxing, 100 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: like way punching other authors was like gonna attract these ladies, 101 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna mess up this dude. At the same time, 102 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: naming Way is the most attractive of the authors. That 103 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: is true, especially when he extends his dow lap. The 104 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: ladies love. The ladies love a dow lap. I think 105 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: that's that much as universal amongst all species is the 106 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: ladies love an extendable dow lap, especially if it's bright yellow. 107 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, they in addition to this incredible dow lap, 108 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: they have another trick. They have flaps of skin connected 109 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: to their torso that they can extend that act as 110 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: gliding wings, and they can sail through the sky like 111 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: tiny dragons. So, Alex, I have shared with you an 112 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: image of one of in fact, a moving image of 113 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: one of these lizards as it jumps off a tree 114 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: and engages in flight. It looks man, I guess I 115 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: watched some of them recently. It looks like basically every 116 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: shot in a Marvel movie in a good way where 117 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: somebody like flies off of that hell of carrier thing 118 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: and just a sense to the earth for combat. It 119 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: looks really cool, like it's the falcon doing that. Yeah, No, 120 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: it looks really cool. It looks like some kind of 121 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: mechanized I don't know, yeah, like a little Superhero. It 122 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: extends out. This maybe is a dated reference, but to me, 123 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: it looks a little bit like a Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. 124 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Does anyone anyone know that movie? Anyone? No, wasn't that 125 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: like the first Marvel movie? Keep up, Keep up. Well, 126 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: it's like it's like these these colorful wings that like 127 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: extend out, like they unfold perpendicular to the lizard. So 128 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: it is really cool looking and it's super weird because 129 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: it is actually supported by extended rib bones. So so yeah, 130 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: they're actual rib bones. Like they have these extensions of 131 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: these rib bones, and normally they lay flat at their sides, 132 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: but then when they want to fly, they extend outward, 133 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: like if your arms were kind of laying flat at 134 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: your side and then you move your arms and like 135 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: a t pose. They do that with their arms as well, 136 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and then their whole, this whole flap unfurls behind their 137 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: arms and forms these little wings. It is incredible. I 138 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: think I'm even seeing it on the jift because like 139 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: it does expand its wings and start gliding, but before that, 140 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: on initial jump. It's basically a really cool torpedo. And 141 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: it must because the bones are really aligned to the body. 142 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: There yeah. Yeah, they run flush with the body really well, 143 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and then only when they really need to unfurl the 144 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: wings they come out. It's uh yeah, it's really it 145 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: looks very very cool. I highly encourage you to look 146 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: up gifts of the Draco Lizard. I'll also include them 147 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: in the show notes because it is they do. They 148 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: look like tiny superheroes like Lizardman. Yeah. Like, if this 149 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: was a movie, the immediate previous moment would be James 150 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: Bond or Ethan Hunt talking to a guy from Langley 151 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: who's like, and by the way, the territory there is 152 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: really scary. What and then he does this show like 153 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: it's one of these situations. It's really cool. Yeah, it's 154 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: like a like a secret agent lizard who's just learned 155 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: that in the other tree. I don't know, some actresses 156 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: being held hostage. I can't really think of secret agent 157 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: lizard plotlines. I'm just not in that mindset right now. Yeah, 158 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, let's let's seek a more peaceful world, 159 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We can we can beat 160 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: Lizards of the Plowshares, you know what I mean. Let's 161 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: do that so in a single leap they can travel 162 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: over two hundred feet or sixty meters, So this isn't 163 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: some like yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not peddling little hop 164 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: they can seriously glide without losing all that much altitude. Man. 165 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: I also, I'm maybe there's too much Prosidrick. Soon people 166 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: will hear a wonderful, secretly incredibly fascinating episode where Katie 167 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: Golden is the guest about imperial units of measurement, and 168 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: I like that feet and meters I understand both of those. 169 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: So when you shared both for both systems, it just 170 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: hit me twice. It was great at such a long 171 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: distance two hundred feet or sixty that's wild. Yes, yeah, 172 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: no it is, it's it's I mean, And also think 173 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: about how teeny tiny these guys are. It'd be like 174 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: if one of us, like in one of these you 175 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: know those like squirrel suits that people use like for gliding. 176 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: They look absolutely bonkers, uh deadly and scary um, but 177 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: it'd be like, I mean, you know, these guys are 178 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: like barely these aren't even a foot long, So it'd 179 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: be like traveling. I don't know, like four hundred times 180 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: there body so like traveling. I don't know what's for 181 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: like four hundred times your own body length in one leap. 182 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, It's like it's like when I take 183 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: up late in somewhere, but it's like, obviously I can't 184 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: go this distance delta can. So if only we hadn't 185 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: get enough of these lizards though, And like sort of 186 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: if you if you tie each one with a bit 187 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: of string and then attach them to like yourself, and 188 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: you have like hundreds of these guys, could you do 189 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: it with the mechanics of it work out. I'm headed 190 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: to Charlotte Douglas. Let's do this, Let's make it happen. 191 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: It's an airport. But yeah, they really look like fantastical 192 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: little dragons, and they're very colorful to Their wings range 193 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: from yellow and orange, and in males can also have 194 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 1: these like bands of blue. It's truly incredible looking. They 195 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: look they either look like a fantasy dragon or something 196 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: prehistoric from like dinosaur times, which they're just they're just 197 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: lovely and amazing looking. Oh yeah, I look, because there's 198 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: there's other pictures you're down here, and one of them. 199 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: The wings are really pretty. It's like a yellow with 200 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: black stripes and a red edge to it. It's sort 201 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: of it's almost like the Dilophosaurus from Jurassic Park. But 202 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: if you took the face frills and put it on 203 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: the sides of the bag. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, there 204 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: were a lot of these gliding dinosaurs that you know, eventually, 205 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: like we had birds come into play that probably evolved 206 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: from some of these gliding dinosaurs. Of course these are 207 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: these are lizards, which is the the shared the same 208 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: ancestor as dinosaurs. But dinosaurs didn't evolve from like lizards, 209 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: even though like they're all reptiles. Um. But yeah, I 210 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: mean it is, it is really fascinating. What a thing, man. 211 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: I have never made that connection. I guess I didn't 212 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: know about any gliding lizards, but I never thought of 213 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: that as some kind of intermediate stage or relative or 214 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,359 Speaker 1: part of the broader thing. Because birds birds as dinosaurs. 215 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: Birds are birds are dinosaurs, uh, and their relatives, you know, 216 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: their their ancestors. Um, We're probably a little kind of 217 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: they were more reptile like uh than modern day birds. 218 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: And of course I'm not like the this is a 219 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: case of convergent evolution with this gliding lizard. I don't 220 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: believe they shared any ancestors with like the ancestors of birds. Um. 221 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: But still it is. It is fascinating because you can 222 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: see sort of like these you know, these kind of 223 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: different methods of flight. Also, it is fascinating that with birds, 224 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: their wings are made out of extended finger bones in 225 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: their arms, so it's a very different construction of their wing, 226 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: whereas with these guys, their wings are made or I 227 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: guess gliders are made out of extended rib bones, so 228 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it is a different type of wing. And so it 229 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: is it is really interesting to see these like different 230 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: methods of This is not quite flight because they don't 231 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: gain altitude, but it is a really incredible display of 232 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: anatomy of like being creative with anatomy of like yeah, 233 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: I can just like shoot out my rib bones and 234 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: then have a membrane in between each bone, and now 235 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: I got gliders. Why not? Yeah? And like as cool 236 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: as flight or gliding would feel. As you describe both 237 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: of those physical structures, I didn't want to do either 238 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: of them myself. I'm not I'm not interested. Like that 239 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: sounds awful either way as an experience for me. Yeah, 240 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to grow out, but I'm sure it's 241 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: good for them, your bones and stretched skin over them. 242 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like a good time to you. No, 243 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: my yeah, I feel like my fingers and my ribs 244 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: are my two weakest points, maybe toes like and you know, 245 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: you know where else, but like there's there's a short 246 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: list of areas I don't want to put the pressure 247 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: of like lift onto you know what I mean, forget it. 248 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: I can see that. Yeah, when you look at like 249 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: when you look at the way that bird wings or 250 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: even bat wings and you see like how long their 251 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: little thingies are, it gets a little creepy. Yeah, oh 252 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: keep that inside the old skin there, please, thank you 253 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: my request. Yeah, yes, especially especially bats, because with birds, 254 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: while they do have us, you know, some some stretched skin, 255 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,479 Speaker 1: they a lot of their flight is on the projection 256 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: of their feathers, so they don't need a big membraneous 257 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: flap of skin to keep them aloft. A lot like 258 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: that is what feathers do for them. But you look 259 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: at a bat and it's all skin. There's no feathers, 260 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: it's just like skin, and they're still able to manage 261 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: flight with it. So I just I love all these 262 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: different methods of gliding and flight. How you know that 263 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: you have a similar end result of some kind of 264 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: wing or glider but then very different body parts involved. 265 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Like with there are mammal gliders like the colugo, the 266 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: flying squirrels, and they usually have a flap of skin. 267 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: But it's a colugo the same as a flying squirrel. No, No, 268 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: it's a it's like a very primitive it's not it's 269 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: not quite a primate, but it is like it shares 270 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: a common ancestor think with primates. Also with flying squirrels. 271 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: I sort of always assumed there was a real correct 272 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: name for those that I just don't know. So I 273 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: was like, maybe it's girls. There maybe a Latin name, 274 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: but I don't need to know it because because flying 275 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: squirrels is good. No, colucos are um. They're actually found 276 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia. Uh, And yeah they're related to primates. 277 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: They aren't primates, but they're they're mammals that kind of 278 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: like share a common ancestor with primates and they're really 279 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: fascinating looking. But yeah, they they're also called like flying lemurs, 280 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: although they are not lemurs like flying squirrels. They have 281 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: just like this flap of skin that's like attached to 282 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: their arms and their legs, and a lot of gliding 283 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: mammals have the structure. So it's like it's similar to 284 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, the the flying suit that people that we've engineered, 285 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: and that's some people who don't have that self preservation 286 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: instinct will put on and then zoom down mountains. But 287 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, this like flap that's connected to 288 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: their arms and then to their lower lay. But it's 289 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 1: a very different style of glider than these draco lizards 290 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: because the draco's there. Their gliders are not attached to 291 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: their legs or their forearms. It's just attached to their 292 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: rib bones that they you know, are able to with 293 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the use of muscles like either extend or lay flat 294 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: against their body. So really it's it's just so cool 295 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: that you'll have gliding at many different gliding animals, but 296 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: many different techniques and different anatomies and different kinds of 297 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: like evolutionary strategies. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, I like that. 298 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I guess it's nice that the air is available all 299 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: the time. I like air being available all the time, 300 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't use it really for anything, 301 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: but it's it's just like a space we could be 302 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: moving through if we chose, and all these different animals 303 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's wide open up there. I'm going 304 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: to figure it out something. Yeah, yeah, no, it is, 305 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: it is, it is. I mean it is a testament 306 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: to the pressures of like. The by having a any 307 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: kind of available space where a living organism can be 308 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: in like it is physically possible for them to occupy 309 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: that space, and it is possible for them to evolve 310 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: traits to take advantage of that space. It's almost inevitable 311 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: that will it will happen. In fact, it happens over 312 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: and over again. So it is incredible. Yes, But when 313 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: we get back from the break, we're going to talk 314 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: about a little guy who also is capable of impressive falls, 315 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: but without a parachute, wings, gliders, nothing, he doesn't just 316 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: straight up naked. Never mind, I don't want to shame you. 317 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: To take a back. So we talked about the draco lizard, 318 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: which is an incredible little guy who it's got these 319 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: gliders on the side of its ripped cage that it 320 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: uses to glideing compressive distances. But I guess like the 321 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: only it seems like the only way that animals can 322 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: survive these falls is through having some kind of evolved 323 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: skin flap or glider or feathers or something. Except there 324 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: is a little, a little dude who is putting those 325 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: assumptions to the test. There is a world class skydiver 326 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: who can successfully dive from the tallest trees in the 327 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: world without a parachute, which I do not recommend you 328 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: try at home unless you are a wandering salamander. So, 329 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: the wandering salamander is a small, brown, four unassuming amphibian. 330 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: It's just like about I don't know about the size 331 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: of your hand, your palm, very tiny, guy, um. And 332 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: they live in the redwood forests of California, and these 333 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: trees are very very tall, and the salamanders can climb 334 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: around a hundred and thirty feet or forty meters up 335 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: into the trees. Yeah, feet and meters. Hit me twice. 336 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Leave it. So they will snack on insects they find 337 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: in the trees. They're nocturnal. They also have no lungs 338 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: or gills. They breathe through their skin instead, they do 339 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: gas exchange with their skin. This is a trick that 340 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: some yeah, this is a trick some amphibians are capable 341 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: of doing. And this is why amphibians also things like gastropods, 342 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: like they can breathe through their skin. But this is 343 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: why they have to live in very moist environments. So 344 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: these salamanders always have sort of this moist sheen on 345 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: their skin, and they have to live somewhere where they 346 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: won't dry out so much. So in these foggy, moist, 347 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: sort of humid redwood forests, their skin will stay hydrated. 348 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: And the because you need water H two O to 349 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: facilitate gas exchange, which allows them to extract oxygen from 350 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: the air. Wow. Yeah, and so we and so there's 351 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: all these different Like it's a tiny salamander that can 352 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: leap out of a tree impossibly and breathe without gills 353 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: and lungs and stuff. And then they named it the 354 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: wandering salamander. Yeah, the name is like the main thing 355 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: about these guys. They go from place to place. Yeah, 356 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: don't expect him to settle down. He's a wandering salamander. Yeah, 357 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: it's uh. They could have called them the super skin breathing, 358 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: jumping salamander, but now, yeah, they were like this type 359 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: of salamander. The big thing about them they will never 360 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: pick a favorite coffee shop. They just keep going to 361 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: different ones. I can't believe it become a regular think 362 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: about it. Don't ask it for restaurant recommendations. It doesn't know. Yeah. 363 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, the first bar we went to was good, 364 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: let's stay here, salamander that it's like, and does anybody 365 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: need anything from the tenth floor, I'll go get it 366 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: really fast. It's like, yeah, it's more interesting. Yeah. So 367 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: they are also able to leap from these tall trees 368 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: and somehow survive with no skin flaps, no wings, no 369 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: big webbed feet, no parachute, nothing. So it is really 370 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: incredible to watch these little sale managers just floating through 371 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: the air because you can actually see this. Researchers wanted 372 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: to see how they survive from falling from trees, and 373 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: they stuck these little dudes in a vertical wind tunnel 374 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: and so you can watch the video of the little 375 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: selement or just spinning and floating arms all out, all 376 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: starfished out, just you know, free bird playing in the background. 377 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing. Is it just that like indoor 378 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: skydiving stuff you can do in some city exactly? But 379 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at here, I think in his 380 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: chif it's exactly what it is, Yes, vibing out like 381 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: the people in the commercials for that. They've never done it. Yeah, 382 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: now I want to do it. I mean, this salamander 383 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: makes me want to do it because he looks like 384 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: he's having a real good time. He's just he's just 385 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: he is just vibing. He's chilling. Gravity has no you know, 386 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: he's the master of gravity, has no fear. It's incredible, 387 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: spinning around having a good time. Yeah, just like floating 388 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: and kind of wobbling. Basically the movements of lava lamp 389 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: stuff or like for like Windows media player visualizations or something. 390 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: You know, this is really just viby, antarctic little movements. 391 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: I like it. You gave me a very unethical You 392 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: gave me a very unethical idea, which is um, having 393 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: just a bunch of these guys in like a wind 394 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: tunnel on my on my bedside to watch all day long. 395 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: It's unethical. I would never do it, but now I 396 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about it. So these salamanders, it's interesting 397 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: you bring up indoor skydiving, and the reason it looks 398 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: so similar to that is they actually adopt a very 399 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: human like skydiving posts. They extend their arms and their 400 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: legs out, they hold up their chest and by like 401 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: star fishing. Like this, they increase their body's surface area 402 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: and the wind resistance slows their descent. This is what 403 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: is called drag, which is not a drag if you 404 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: are trying to survive a fall. So, uh, that's I'm 405 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: a dad. That's how I announced everyone I am a dad, 406 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to survive a fault dad of rebelling. Now, 407 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: I refuse um man. I I do sometimes just want 408 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, annoy annoy random children with 409 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: like science puns. So I do think it's like I've 410 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: I've learned this from my father, and I need I 411 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: need to now do it to others so so they can. 412 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: These salamands can also precisely control their trajectory by using 413 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: their tail as a rudder or tucking in a leg, 414 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: so they're not just casting themselves at the mercy of gravity. 415 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: They are the masters of their descent. And so they 416 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: are so good at naked skydiving that they don't really 417 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: disind trees by climbing down. They just use nature's elevator, 418 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: which is falling. Man, it's just but also thinking of 419 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: the previous lizard that does sort of a leaping bullet 420 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: shaped move out of a tree like c G I have. 421 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: The action movies such as Later Pierced Brows and Bonds 422 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: or Marvel have taught me, like the hero jumps out 423 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: of a plane or whatever, and then there are two 424 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: movements they can make. They can either do this drag 425 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: thing that this salamander is doing to like slow down, 426 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: or they can do the bullet thing to move to 427 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: the thing. And I'm seeing I'm seeing animals do both things. Amazing. 428 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: We could actually replace all c g I and stunts 429 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: with with lizards and amphibians. Apparently, I would love that. 430 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: Like you're watching you're watching Mission Impossible seven or whatever 431 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: they're on. You see Tom Cruise like getting out of 432 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: a plane and then suddenly just like cuts to one 433 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: of these salamander's falling and with with the music and 434 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: everything going. But you just like, you know, just to 435 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: spend disbelief like this, this is now Tom Cruise the salamander. Right, 436 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: if you're looking for the tucked tail, you're not in 437 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: the movie. You know, you're not fully taking it in, 438 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: like don't don't be, don't be a cinema sins about 439 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: this people, exactly is it is? It? Really? Like it's 440 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: the it is the you know when like people say 441 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: it's the something of the law, like, oh, letter of 442 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: the law, spirit of the law, spirit of the law. 443 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: There it is. Wow, sorry, god, my brain, it's yeah. 444 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta look for, like, you know, the 445 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: spirit of the movie, not details such as is this 446 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: tom cruise or an amphibian that lives in the redwood 447 00:28:53,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: forests of California? Those are unimportant details. I also, I 448 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: do like to imagine all stunt men and stunt women 449 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: living in a redwood forest when they're not making movies. 450 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that just feels right to It does feel right. God, 451 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to hang out with that crew. That'd be awesome. Yeah, 452 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: Like I can like that cabin that a commando who 453 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: has become disenchanted with the force lives in before there's 454 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: one last mission to bring them back. I want all 455 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: stunt men to live in those And right, why haven't 456 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: we had like a movie about like Hollywood stunt people 457 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: have We would be so good. They deserve it, they 458 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: get they do so much of the stuff gets a 459 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: little of the credit. Um. But yeah, I mean, these 460 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: these salamanders are they typically don't jump all the way 461 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: down from the tree onto the forest floor. What they 462 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: try to do is land on another tree, and this 463 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: allows them to jump to other trees, quickly, find other 464 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: mates of a danger, and just get around because they 465 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: like to wander. I guess that's appropriate. Man, that's good though. Yeah, 466 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: when you when you quit your tree, you want to 467 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: have an ex tree lined up. It's just it's a 468 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: better situation all around. Gold It's it's not a golden parachute. 469 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: It's a confident salamander. You want to be a confident salamander. 470 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: All these CEOs getting confident salamanders where they leave, which 471 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: sounds fine compared to the real thing. So we've talked 472 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: about draco lizards, the little real dragons that can glide 473 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: through the sky. We've talked about salamanders who are so 474 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: confident in falling they don't even need a pair of shoot. Now, 475 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the best falls that marine 476 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: life can do. You might be thinking, like, how can 477 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: an aquatic animal even fall? They're like in the water, dumb, dumb. 478 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I imagine everyone thinking at me with arms crossed, if I, 479 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: if I may bring some extraordinary expertise in here. When 480 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: they're moving downward, it's actually because they're swimming down there 481 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: in water not air. Ah, yes, yes, sorry, I guess 482 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: last section is canceled because Alex Alex out thought me, 483 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: outmaneuvered me mentally. I was destroyed biologic and facts. So no, 484 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: But what we are talking about our rays. So rays 485 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: are those flappy oceanic gliders with flat bodies, these two wings. 486 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: At times they have a stinger. Uh. They are cartilage 487 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: us and are closely related to sharks. You know what 488 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, Manta rays, sting rays. Lots of 489 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: different species of rays. I like that their shark relative. Yes, yes, 490 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: shark cousins and the There are many, many different species 491 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: of rays. But right now we are going to talk 492 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: about one particular genus, the mobula. So the mobular ray 493 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: is found all over the world in warm oceanic waters. 494 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: Depending on the species, mobulas can grow from around four 495 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: ft or one meter to seventeen feet or five meters 496 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: from wing to wing, so they can get quite big. 497 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: I hope the really big ones are irritated with the 498 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: really little ones. We're not in the same club. Try 499 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: is hard to be us. We're basically like brothers, you know, 500 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: the same You mean you need me and you and 501 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: me we're the same. Yeah, um, I hope it's wearing 502 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: that little hat that I've only seen in tropes about children, 503 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: where it's a little ball cap that's speech ball colored, 504 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: like it's five or six color propeller, like like a 505 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: big what are you doing? Like I again or different species? 506 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm not your big brother. Yeah, yeah that's cool. That's cool. 507 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: Uh might if I hang out with Yeah. That hat 508 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: has only ever existed as a prop in a prop house. 509 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: No real person has ever worn it. I know I 510 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: had a I had one of those little hats when 511 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: I was a kid, the propeller hats. Yeah, yeah, it's 512 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: a toy. But I was really sad because it didn't 513 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: just like I had seen in cartoons that you you know, 514 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: you get the propeller going and you actually are able 515 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: to like take off in flight. Not true, right, not 516 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: not even a little bit true. It was very disappointing. 517 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: Is the last chunk of the episode animals that do 518 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: take off? That? Yes, the last The last animal is 519 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: man who uses the propeller hat to float down from 520 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: amazing heights. Don't do that. Don't try that. It doesn't work. 521 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: I tried it. As a kid. It didn't work, just 522 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: led to like a scraped knee and and disillusionment. So yes, 523 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 1: momule rays are also called devil rays, but they're actolutely. 524 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: They're actually fine, they're actually cool despite being called devil rays. 525 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: Most species of Mobula lack a tail stinger, or if 526 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: they have a stinger at all, it's harmless. So it's 527 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: a very fearsome moniker. But you know, there's chill, their chill, 528 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: little sea pancakes. Not to make the show to sports sea, 529 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: but have you heard of the Devil rays sports mascot. 530 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: There's a baseball team in Tampa Bay, Florida. They're now 531 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: called the Tampa Bay Rays, but when they were first 532 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: an expansion baseball team, they were called the Tampa Bay 533 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: Devil Rays, and I always thought that was just like 534 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: a made up aggressive thing and that. But they've since 535 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: changed it to raise because I think people were not 536 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: into devil rays. They were like, what is that? Now 537 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I finally know what that is. I'm a humgus baseball fan. 538 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: I had no idea. I think devil rays was a 539 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: cooler a cooler name, both as someone interested in biology 540 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: and heavy metal. H So, you know, it's just you know, 541 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: go back, go back to being called the devil rays. 542 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, and their their logo is a little 543 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: devil roy. That's so cute. I love that. I think 544 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: I think they were going for a verbal rhythm like 545 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay devil ray, you know. But now it's just 546 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: the race. Yeah, oh my goodness, wow sports huh really 547 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: going downhill ever since they got rid of the devil 548 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: ray um. So yeah. They are also filter feeders. They 549 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: just eat plankton. So they're really sweet little things. They're 550 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: not scary at all, little sleep floppers, flopping glinding around 551 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: under the water. They're so graceful and beautiful. Sometimes they 552 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: form these big shoals where you just have these big 553 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: groups of of these devil rays all kind of like 554 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: shoaling together, swimming together in these big balls and like 555 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: gracefully changing direction together. It's beautiful. They actually to me, 556 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 1: looking at one of these mobular rays from like the top, 557 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: they look like if Batman was like squished squished into 558 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: a pancake, you see that, right, or like or like 559 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: maybe like the like the bat wing, you know, his 560 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: like airplane thing that's kind of shaped like a bat ish. 561 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: It sort of looks like if a bat also was 562 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: wearing Batman's hat, and then it's like, you know how 563 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: Batman's caves. Sometimes they depict it with like a hundred 564 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: specialty suits on a big clothing rack or whatever, like 565 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: this is the scuba aqua whatever it is, right, but 566 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: a bat that's wearing Batman's hat because they have like 567 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 1: their heads are sort of you shaped, with these two 568 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: prongs kind of coming off off near their eyes, and 569 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: then the rest of their body is sort of typical 570 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: ray you know, like like with the wings sort of 571 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: the downward wings that it's kind of this like V 572 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: shape um, and then and then a tail. I mean 573 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: I can see how they look, I guess a little menacing. 574 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,959 Speaker 1: To me, they look cute. I like them, they do. Yeah. 575 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: I think that's part of why I was so surprised 576 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: to learn they're related to sharks, because, like I like, 577 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: I know, this is not how evolution works, but part 578 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: of my like cartoon brain wants to think evolution is 579 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: one animal deciding to look like a different animal. So 580 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: just the idea that there was this shark that wanted 581 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: to be really flat and weird is fun to me. 582 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: And these guys are like flat and weird in a 583 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: really appealing way. It's great. Yeah, yeah, now they have 584 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: decided to go the pancake root and it worked out 585 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: well for them. Uh. And there are other nickname other 586 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: than devil rays is flying rays because they do an 587 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary behavior where they leap out of the water, glide, 588 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: flap their little wings, and then crash back into the 589 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: water in a spectacular belly flop. And you've probably you've 590 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: probably seen dolphins gracefully slipping in and out of the 591 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: water as they jump barely making a splash. Mobula Rays 592 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: they don't do this style for them. They pride themselves 593 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: on doing the biggest, sloppiest belly flop they can possibly manage. 594 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: This jip is so stupid. This I'm looking at a jim. 595 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: Some wonderful person got really cinematic footage of like many 596 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: devil rays doing this just direct leap into the air, 597 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: flap back down into the water, maneuver the crap. I 598 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: love that there's a crowd of them. It feels like 599 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: this should be soundtracked, like when the Ewoks are celebrating 600 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: at the end of Return, like it's it's a real 601 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: just party going on of pointless sleeping, it's into the 602 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: air and landing. It's great and it is I mean 603 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: it is a party atmosphere because these are rays that 604 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: are trying to flirt with other rays. By making these 605 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: loud splashes, they create a sonic wave underwater, alerting eligible 606 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: singles to their location. And the bigger the splash, the 607 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: more noticeable they are. So male mobulas do this breaching, 608 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: jumping out and splashing into the water the most, but 609 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: females will also partake, and it's often these big groups 610 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: of all these rays all putting on a stunning show 611 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: as they try to impress a potential mate. Uh. And 612 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: they can actually, they can get some serious altitude. They 613 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: can leap up to six and a half feet or 614 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: two meters out of the water. Wow. Yeah, it really 615 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: looks like it. Because I'm looking at the mountains behind 616 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: these guys and stuff, I kind of have a general 617 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: sense of the depth and scale and everything. They're really 618 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: getting up there. This is not like, this is not 619 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: that thing where it's like, oh something, what am I 620 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: thinking of? Never mind, Yeah, I love the leaping. This 621 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: is just right. And then just like the flapping of 622 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: their little because like the wings that they have are 623 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: for uh, therefore gliding through the ocean. There there for swimming, 624 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: they're not really for flying, and yet here they are 625 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: flapping these little wings and a little more altitude. It's 626 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: it's so cute. They're so cute. I think all rays 627 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: are really cute, but these guys just like being the zest, 628 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: the jois de vive of these little these so little 629 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: actually they can be quite quite big. But yes, it's 630 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: just incredible, just such spunk, right because they they're not 631 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: going to take off when they come out of the water. 632 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: They are flapping as if they are going to just 633 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: proceed to fly into a tree and make a mast 634 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: or something. It's really we're going to marsh. Yeah, no, 635 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: it's it does look very optimistic, like they've just kind 636 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: of forgotten that they're not birds and they're not bats, 637 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: and they're just like, you know, I'm a bat now 638 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: we and then falling back down. But yeah, it is, 639 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: it's it's just it's so cute. Yeah. Also, if I 640 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: remember right, the Tampa Bay baseball team, they have a 641 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: stingray tank at the stadium, and I wish it was 642 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: a bunch of them constantly leaping or like when there's 643 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: a home run. They do this, they would be great, 644 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 1: but that's probably not how it works. No, no, yeah, 645 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: I I feel like if they were doing that, that 646 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: would mean that they're in an amorous mood, which you 647 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: know might not be appropriate for all the kids who 648 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: show up for the baseball And it's a two one 649 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: count to Jeff Cappinger. Also, we can see the raise 650 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: are amorous, amorous, and the pitch oh man, actually, I 651 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: take it back. I do want baseball integrated with animal 652 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: mating rituals. But then you have to like because I 653 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: don't want them to just be in a little tank. 654 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: It means taking the baseball to their habitats, like a 655 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: big floating lootilla of baseball right next to the rais 656 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:52,760 Speaker 1: or nothing. Right, it's it's field of dreams, but instead 657 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: of walking out of a cornfield to to play ancient baseball, 658 00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: it's guys like going through a double ray party on 659 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: surfboards or something you could do like underwater baseball. Just 660 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: real slow. Oh yeah, right, the manager is going to 661 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: have to take out that picture. I mean his arm 662 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: is tired. He ran of oxygen um. His arm is tired. 663 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: Though that's the main reason the third baseman is turning blue, 664 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: which I've never seen this strategy before. You hate to 665 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: see it. I don't know that much about baseball, I'll 666 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: be honest. I mean, you don't want the third basement 667 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: to turn blue? That's pretty good crystal, all right? All right, 668 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,959 Speaker 1: well then maybe I know more than I thought. Yeah, 669 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: you should manage my favorite team. But yeah, yeah, there's 670 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna be some real change around here you put me 671 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: in charge. There was a clip the other I won't 672 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: divert it too far, but there was a clipp the 673 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: other day of the White Sox manager in the first 674 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 1: inning probably falling asleep, like they had the camera on him, 675 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: and it looked like was probably falling asleep. So I 676 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: think you're ready. I think you could do it. You 677 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: would probably remain awake for the first inning. If I 678 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: was president of baseball, I would never fall asleep during 679 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: the baseball Only outside of baseball times would I sleep. 680 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: So already more well qualified, I wouldn't get rid of 681 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: the Devil Raises the name of my baseball team, because 682 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: what the heck? That is such a cool name and 683 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 1: that's just the Raise. Come on, Yeah, these guys are great. 684 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 1: They got such a baseball spirit and I'm proud of them, 685 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: and I don't want them to get discouraged just because 686 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: baseball teams are changing their names from devil rays to 687 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: just raise. That's the you know, I see you guys 688 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: out there, I see you you mobular rays. They could 689 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: have changed it to the mobular rays. That would have 690 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: been cool too. It's a cool name, oh man, I'd 691 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: love that because the minor leagues especially, there are a 692 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: lot of teams with relatively obscure animal names, like the 693 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: snappers and stuff and so yeah, and the miners. You 694 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: could some kind of like wandering salamander franchise. Also, mobulas 695 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: sounds like a mob of draculas, so it sounds cool. 696 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: There as the plural word for it. Yet a flock 697 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: of draculas is called a mobula. Yeah, you thought it'd 698 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: be a murder. Murder was taken. Murder was taken. We 699 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 1: had to be a mobula. Biologist never used those funny names, 700 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: like it's like, did you know, like a group of 701 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: crows is actually called a murder on a group of 702 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: vowels is called a parliament. It's like I've I've never 703 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: see actual Like it's no, it's not really used in 704 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: biology papers. I don't ever see it actually used really 705 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: the different like things like flocks versus herds versus shoals, yeah, 706 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: of course, yeah, or troops, like there are there are 707 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: general ones that are done for like very different animals, 708 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: but when you get really specific, like a group of 709 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: flamingos is called a flamboyance, it's like you just made 710 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: that up right now, I don't. I don't know, like, 711 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: even if it's true, I don't really see any anyone 712 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: using that in any official capacity. I'm I'm really glad 713 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: to hear that, honestly, because I really always felt like 714 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: I really want to celebrate science and support science, and 715 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: I really always felt like those nouns were specifically just 716 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: British nobility around. I always assumed it's like an earl 717 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: was bored and decided to just a group of British 718 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: nobles is called a rough by the way, Yeah, uh, well, 719 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: I think we've we've covered some of the world's most 720 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: spectacular followers. Uh. And it's it's a good reminder. It's 721 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: like you can fall down, you could pick yourself up, 722 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: but you could also fall down a really fun and 723 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: cool way that's also active to mates. So you know, 724 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with falling, is what I'm saying. Yeah, I 725 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: like the especially I feel like animals. And again, I 726 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: know evolution is not individual choices by animals, but it 727 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: feels like so many animals have either chosen to fly 728 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: or chosen to walk, swim, etcetera. And I like that 729 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: so many of them are in the middle area between 730 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 1: light and not flight. You're just gliding around. Look, you 731 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: know it's we think that you can only conquer the 732 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: skies by going up flying. No, like you can, you 733 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: can be like you know what, gravity, You and I 734 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: let's team up together and get something done and not 735 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 1: instead of fighting gravity. It's like we're we're joining forces 736 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: two for me to be a little salamander guy just 737 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: jumping out of trees. Uh uh you know, yeah, I 738 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: love it. Just you gotta work with physics sometimes, give 739 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 1: yourself a little express elevator, you know what I mean this? Okay, 740 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: Now we're getting dangerously close to telling people to just 741 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: like fall great distances, and I don't don't want to 742 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: do that. Human human beings are not quite We're not 743 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: Our bodies are not as capable of handling these kinds 744 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: of feats. Uh as these animals so you know, leave 745 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: it to the professional like the like the little salamanders 746 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: and the little flying lizards and the ray but not 747 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, but they're professionals. Yeah, buzz Lightlier. Also, I wish, 748 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: I wish the buzz Lightyear movie was just kind of 749 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: about the real buzz Lightyear learning how to fly. That 750 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: would have been fun just watching tape of mobular rays, like, Okay, 751 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: what do they do? What do they do? Like Chicken Run, 752 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: but a fully man sized buzz Lightyear. Yeah, I don't know. 753 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: I didn't watch the movie, so I have no opinion 754 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: on it, but you know, that's I just I just 755 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: like to see things getting launched into the air. This 756 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound weird. The most recent movie I've 757 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: watched his Chicken Run. It was. It was a lot 758 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 1: of fun. It's still great. It is. It's that was 759 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: a good movie. It's about chickens trying to learn to 760 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: fly to escape escape their egglaying operation. But really it's 761 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,759 Speaker 1: kind of a metaphor for unionization and and the fight 762 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: against oppressive capitalism because I think I only saw it 763 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: as a child in a theater and then now and 764 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a pretty based movie. Yeah, 765 00:49:52,800 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: but make it chickens. Well, before before we get all political, 766 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: we gotta play a game. This game is called Guess 767 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: Who's Squawking? The Mystery Animal Sound Game. Every week I 768 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: play a mystery animal sound and you know, the listener 769 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: try to guess. Hey, this squawking can be any animal. 770 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: I know it's called Guess who squawking? But it's not 771 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: just birds. Can be any animal in the world. Uh, 772 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: in the universe really, once we find aliens. So um. 773 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: Last week's mystery animals sound, the hint was don't blame 774 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: the dog for this one, but it is the sound 775 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: of a happy carnivore. Okay, So I promise this is 776 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: not a rude noise and just play a part for you. 777 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I'm not a child. So who 778 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: do you think? Get squawk? Can anything's making this sound? 779 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 1: I got an aquatic vibe from it and almost kind 780 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: of a dolphin sound, But I don't know if it's 781 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,960 Speaker 1: a dolphin. I'll just go dolphin. You are correct, Alex, 782 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: good job, Yes, bonus points. Can you guess what it's doing? Oh? Yeah, 783 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: that's that's the more difficult to ask. And I think 784 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: I think I was able to get it because Atlantic 785 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,720 Speaker 1: Bil those cellphones were a prime animal at my childhood 786 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: zoo that I later worked in as a guide. So 787 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: we didn't we didn't like go through the dolphin exhibit 788 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: on the tours. But I I've gotten to hear him 789 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: a lot and it's a lot of like clicking and 790 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: funky sounds, flicking and squeaking part noises. Yeah, what was 791 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: it doing because it sounded happy. I'm going to say 792 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 1: it was like rooting out some kind of food out 793 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: of a thing. Alex You are so good, that is 794 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,720 Speaker 1: exactly what is happening. Nice job, well done up. Yes, 795 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: so this is a dolphin hunting and closing in on 796 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: a fish. You're like the dolphin whisperer, alex I. Brookfield 797 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,760 Speaker 1: Zoo was like training me shout at Brookfield z Brookfield, Illinois, 798 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: outside Chicago. I feel like I feel like I heard 799 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: that sound and I activated, like Jason Bourne, like a 800 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,400 Speaker 1: bunch of dolphin training just turned on. I don't know 801 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 1: very much about that was a sleeper cetation. I'm gonna 802 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,879 Speaker 1: finish taping and be capable of like perfectly feeding dolphins, 803 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 1: like I throw fish individually into their mouths or something. 804 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have incredible skills. You're you get elected dissent 805 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: and you start passing like pro dolphin bills and you 806 00:52:46,120 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: don't even know why was it the cetacean candidate or so? Uh? Yeah, 807 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: As the dolphin closes in on its prey, it emits 808 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: a terminal buzz which is so narrow that lets it 809 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: precisely close in on the fish. And that little squeak 810 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: at the end is called a victory squeal. It's a 811 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 1: happy sound as the dolphin catches its meal, so it's 812 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: it is happy and it did find food. So you 813 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: are so correct. I am very impressed and a little suspicious. 814 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same about myself. Yes, so I 815 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: actually got some guesses that it was an orca or 816 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 1: bluega which was closed but no cigar. Still, thank you 817 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 1: guys for writing in your gifts. Is really good sleuthing everyone. 818 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: You narrowed it down to a cetacean, which is impressive. Um. Also, 819 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: technically that sound of the dolphin was from two weeks ago, 820 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: since last week I aired a rerun so I could 821 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: go on a little vacation. Um, So congratulations to Nathan 822 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: A who actually guessed the rerun sound correctly. That sound 823 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: was the rock high Racks, which is an adorable little mammal, 824 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: little fluffy. Uh. And they are related to elephants incredibly 825 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animals sound. The hint is the 826 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: Sharks and the Jets are about to have a showdown, 827 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: but they really ought to calm down. H So uh Alec, 828 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: you gott guesses the correct answer is space alience what presiden, 829 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,360 Speaker 1: we got it, we got it, we did it game over. 830 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: But if you think you may know what this is 831 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: other than the space sailing space sil Lands, which he 832 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: clearly is space aliens, you can write to meet Creature 833 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: Feature Product gmail dot com. Alex, thank you so much 834 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 1: for joining me today or can people find you? Hey? 835 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: Thank you? And my podcast is called Secretly Incredibly Fascinating 836 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 1: and I hope people check it out. If you just 837 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: search Secretly in your podcast you have, you'll find it. 838 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: It's a red logo and uh and I don't know 839 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: when this comes out with Katie's on one either soon 840 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: or recently and has been on many of them and 841 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,920 Speaker 1: amazing on all of the ones she's been on, so 842 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: but I hope people like it. 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