1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Wow, what is up? Welcome to another edition of the 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man, nam G. 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Marcus Grant, still masking and socially distancing when and where necessary, 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: as joined as always by Michael left Florida and our 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: producer Steve and Uh. We got a lot to do today. 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a big trade that went down recently. We 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: will get into that. We will finish off our positional reviews. 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: But the one that you've all been waiting for, I 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: just get you know, I can't stop people from coming 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: in my mentions. Ask me when we're gonna talk about 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: tight ends. It's just it's insane how much it happens. Uh, 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: not at all. Um So, but we're talking about that 13 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: and also a little bit of fun video game talk 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: at the end as well. Um. But the first thing 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: I want to start with is, Uh, guys, the in 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Florida you brought this up to me. I think I've 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: missed this, but uh, the Washington football team is thinking 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: about a name change. Uh. You said you saw something 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: right this morning that they have They've put out the 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: call now that they're looking for a name. Is that 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: what it is? Yeah? I got an alert right before 22 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: we started recording that they have a website that they 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: tease a name change after the season, saying new name, 24 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: new era. All right, I mean, we gotta get some 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: thoughts on this. And I don't know, Steve, if you 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on this as well. Um, I mean, Steven, 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: do you have a name if there If you could 28 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: pick any name for the Washington football team, what would 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: you choose. Well, I know it's not going to be 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: a bird because team president Jason Read came out and 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: and I think you dropped an F bomb and when 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: describing what the mascot was going to be, So we 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: know it won't be a bird. Uh, Birds, that what 34 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: it is like. I don't know, it's like Falcons, Ravens, Cardinals. 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a bird. We've got that out 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: of the way. Unfortunately, what tends to happen. I feel 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: like when teams are doing these rebrand I used to 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: work in North Dakota. Happen with the U n D 39 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: team is they pick such a lame name after that? 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: So I just hope it's not that like they were 41 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: the Sioux and now they're the Fighting Hawks, and uh, 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: and that's not I don't know it's fighting hawks. It's 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: just so generic. There's no reason for it. I hope 44 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: they just come up with something that's unique and not 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: not a cat or a bird. I don't have the answer. 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: I hope it's unique. I would, I would hope. So. 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a take or a 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: named suggestion Florio for this, but I just county. I 49 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: think they're five bird teams right that I can come 50 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: up with. I got, you know, the Ravens. Uh, let's see, 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: we got the Eagles, the Cardinals, the Seahawks, the Falcons. 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: My missing I don't think I'm missing any I think 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: that's all of them. It's probably for too many. I mean, 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: I feel like they should. Well. First off, I felt 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: like they missed an opportunity by not calling themselves the 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Washington Football Club, Like they could have just gone straight 57 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: out full on soccer. It's just been the Washington FC. 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: They could have sold scarves like a soccer team does 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. They really missed an opportunity, 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: and I guess they can still do that, but it 61 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: feels cheap now. Um, so they're like, you know that 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: being said, like, I feel like they have to pick 63 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: something that's like regional, right, that's something that like is 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: unique to the DC area. UM. I don't know what 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: that would be, like the Washington Partisans or something like, 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: Like they could be the Senators, right, um, which is 67 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: sort of a nod to the old the old baseball team. Right, 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: it would fit with like the Capitals and the Nationals. 69 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: I guess, No, I think I think that's true. I 70 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: think that works if they're the Washington Senators. Um. You know, 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: although I feel like the Washington Senators baseball team just 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: had a history of a failure, So I don't know 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: if that's I think the the joke about the old 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Washington Senators was, you know, first in war, first in peace, 75 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: last in the American League. So I don't know. I 76 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: don't know that's a history you want to attach yourself to. UM, 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm curious to see what happens. 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: I kind of think they should go like the minor 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: league baseball route, and like fans decide like that would 80 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: be fun. Like the stud Muffins was once a potential 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: minor league baseball team name, and I was sad that 82 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: didn't win because I was like, that would be like 83 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: a hilarious mascot. I think there's one, uh and uh sort, 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not in the woods will kind of 85 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: flooring up in upstate New York. I think the Binghamton 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: rumble Ponies. I think yes, I think that the rumble 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Pony might have beat out the Stud Muffin in the 88 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: fan vote. That's a pretty tough competition, right, Stud Muffins 89 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: is pretty tough. Um. You know. I know that for 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: a while the Fresno Grizzlies were the Fresno Tacos um 91 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: most because they would have a big taco festival on 92 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: their field every summer or whatever, so they kind of 93 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: they sort of leaned into it a little bit. But 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm do with that. I'm don with them doing that. 95 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: Would now, would you guys go get a Washington football 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: team piece of paraphernalia? Just hoping it, you know, the 97 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: next big investment. I'm a fan absolutely, Oh, you just 98 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: mean from an event stment standpoint, like a Darren Ravelm 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of move here, like like like top shot or 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: something like. That's why I asked Marcus before we recorded, 101 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: because like right now I'm in the top shot and 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, what else can I get on? Before it 103 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: blows up and it's a w FT apparel the next 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: big thing. I don't know that. I mean I might 105 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: buy one just to have one, but I don't expect 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be. You know, you're not sitting on 107 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: diamond hands if you have like a Washington f T 108 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: jersey or anything like that. If you bought, like, would 109 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: it be Terry McLaurin or Chase Young or Taylor Heineke jersey. 110 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: You gotta invest in the future, you know what. Weirdly, 111 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: a Taylor Heineke jersey might end up being you know, 112 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: like because it is just obscure enough. Um, you know, 113 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's if if they don't make the 114 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: playoffs this season, he would be the only quarterback in 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: w f T history to start a playoff game. Playoff game. Wow, 116 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Now I might go get myself an show up next 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: week and match. Actually, that's gonna be incredible, alright, So 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: keep an eye on that though. It'll be interesting to 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: see what happens with the name change if they just 120 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I still think they should go Washington FC, but I 121 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: would imagine it's going to be something a little bit 122 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: different than that. Either way, Dan Snyder gets to sell 123 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: a whole lot more Jerseys, So hooray for him. I guess, um, 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: all right, elsewhere, I guess sort of staying in the division, 125 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: there was big news. Um, we sort of anticipated this, 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: but Carson Wentz has finally been traded from the Philadelphia 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Eagles to the Indianapolis Colts. I know that this is 128 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: sort of what had been the general opinion for a 129 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: while was going to happen, but it finally did. And so, 130 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, Florida, we've sort of talked about what this 131 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: could mean, but now we can talk about it like 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: in actual real terms because this is a thing that 133 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: has happened. So as I was, you know, thinking about 134 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: this and trying to come up with some discussion topics 135 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: about it, there was one overarching question for me that 136 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: I think sort of you know, I don't know that 137 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: anything else happens without answering this first question, and for me, 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: that is can Carson Wentz be fixed? I mean, the 139 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: last couple of years have not been good. It's you know, 140 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: some of an injury, but a lot of it just 141 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: him not playing well. If if the Colts, if Frank 142 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Rich can't fix him, then none of this really matters. 143 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: Can he get back to where he was a couple 144 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: of years ago, when he was a strong MVP candidate 145 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: before he got hurt. I think so. And the big 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: thing is Frank Reich because his coordinator and the play 147 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: caller of the year that Wentz almost won the m 148 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: v P before he towards a c L and then 149 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles went on to win a Super Bowl with 150 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback that was Frank Wreik. He was the 151 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: one calling the plays there and not a knock on 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, but the Eagles offense just has not looked 153 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: the same since Frank wreck left, and the Colt's offense 154 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: has been humming along with a hodge podge of quarterbacks 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: ever since Andrew Luck has retired. So I do think 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: of stuff wrong with wents like beat reporters and and 157 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: then they talk about how his mechanics have changed since 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: he suffered that severe injury and how he's throwing motion 159 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: changed a little bit. To me, that's all stuff that 160 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: if you're a good coach, you can change. And it 161 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: sounds like there's gonna be a better report here because 162 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: reports out of Philly where that Wentz was not really 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: taken to the coaches criticism this year, and he wasn't 164 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: really going along with their play calls and stuff. So 165 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: part of the problem is Carson Wentz. But I think 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: if if it doesn't work out here like then it 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: might be over for him. But the reason why not 168 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: not just Frank right, is the reason why I'm confident 169 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that Wentz could at least improve the old line as well. 170 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Like he was sacked fifty times in twelve games last year. 171 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: That his previous high before that was thirty seven, I believe, 172 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: and it was in twelve games fifty times, So that 173 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: is just insane how much he was just getting hit 174 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: and taking a beating back there. And we know the 175 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: Colt sol line is anything but bad, and they're going 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: to keep Carson Wentz on his feet and give him protections. 177 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: So I think this was the best case scenario for 178 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. It's funny that, you know, the Colts for 179 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: a number of years had the quarterback. It's seemed they 180 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: had Andrew Luck and they didn't have an offensive line. 181 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Now they've got an offensive line and they're trying to 182 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: find the quarterback that they could put back there. I mean, 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, Jacoby Rissett is a bridge guy. Philip Rivers 184 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: obviously was at the tail end of his career there, 185 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: so now they're hoping that it can be Carson Wentz. 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: I think another thing that might help Wentz, honestly is 187 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: is people say this all the time, but a change 188 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: of scenery and a change of locker room. And if 189 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: you read the reports coming out of Philadelphia, it looked like, 190 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: at least by the end, the locker room itself was 191 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: very split on Carson Wentz. And I think some of 192 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: it had to do with this feeling that the front 193 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: office sort of catered to him a little bit too much, 194 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: especially when he wasn't playing well, And I think there 195 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: was a general feeling of just discontent, and I think 196 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, there there were people who were still behind him. 197 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who very much weren't 198 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: and wanted to see Jalen Hurts get that opportunity. So 199 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: now he goes to a place where he can start 200 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: with a blank slate and he gets that fresh starting, 201 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: a chance to start over again. So maybe that also 202 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: goes towards helping when you've got a locker room that's 203 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: sort of unified behind you being uh starting quarterback there. 204 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: But again, if if it turns out that that whatever 205 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: has happened to Carson Wentz is what is the norm now. Uh, 206 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: then I don't know that any of the rest of 207 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna matter. But you know, let's let's keep 208 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: going on the premise that Carson Wentz is gonna be okay, uh, 209 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: even if he's got an m VP candidate, that he's 210 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: at least back to being, uh, a very viable quarterback, 211 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: a guy that can kind of move to football and 212 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: score points. Does this make any of the Colt's pass 213 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: catcher is more attractive to you in fantasy drafts? I 214 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: think it makes the wide receivers more attractive, especially the 215 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: one who will not give Carson Wentz his number. The 216 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: way like Michael Pittman was like, he asks how attached 217 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: I was to the number. I said I was pretty 218 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: attached or whatever he said, and I was just like, 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: that is awesome because too often players are just like, 220 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: here you go, here's my number. And Michael Pittman was like, no, 221 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not giving it up. But this is also, 222 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: by the way, this this is also this is not 223 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: like you know, Tom Brady coming in and Chris Godwin, like, 224 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, giving up his number. This is like Carson 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: Wentz who it's been okay but hasn't been spectacular so far. 226 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I love that after Pittman said the conversation after he 227 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: said like, no, I'm um, I like number eleven wins 228 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: was like yeah, I was thinking about changing anyway. That 229 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: is like the most passive aggressive like no, it's okay, 230 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: you keep your number. I don't even want it, but 231 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: why did you ask for it? Like? Oh, but I 232 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: think Michael Pittman is the biggest benefactor right now. Especially 233 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: it depends on what they do with that second outside 234 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver because t Y Hilton is a free agent. 235 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: Do they bring him back? But if they do that, 236 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: I expect Pittman to kind of take over as their 237 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: number one. He showed a lot of flashes last year. 238 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: And Marcus he was a player that I know you 239 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: like coming into last year. I like his talent as well. 240 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: I think that Philip Rivers. First, it was a rook year, 241 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: weird year for rookies. But also Philip Rivers isn't the 242 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: type of quarterback that is going to take as many 243 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: shots down field. He's not gonna throw in the tight 244 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: windows as much. And he's more so gonna like he 245 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: is one of the best that just like throwing an 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: anticipation and allowing the receiver to like diving and catch 247 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: the ball or something. So I think Pittman gains. I 248 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: think Paris Campbell can gain from this. And this might 249 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: be sacrilegious the same Marcus and you know, I love 250 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, but the running backs I think are going 251 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: to take a hit in the passing game here because 252 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: no quarterback through to their running backs more last year. 253 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: Well last year it was like he wasn't towards the 254 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: top of the league, but and then years before that 255 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: with the Chargers, like we just know Philip Rivers when 256 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: he feels pressure loves to dump off to those running backs. 257 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: So I think the hem Heinz last year is not 258 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: gonna come close to doing what he did last year. 259 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: But I think it hurts Jonathan Taylor as well and 260 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: helps the receivers here. I was gonna ask about that 261 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: if you felt differently about them, Um, does this mean 262 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: you're not as excited to draft Jonathan Taylor in the 263 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: top five or six now because as of this change 264 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: or what I'm still willing to draft Jonathan Taylor. There 265 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: what it does for me is it makes me not 266 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: as willing to take him as like the second or 267 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: third pick off the board that some people are willing 268 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: to do. For me, I think I I, as of today, 269 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: I like him a little bit more as like the 270 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth pick off the board. What I what 271 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: I do like about the Colts pass catchers is that 272 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't think you have to risk a whole lot 273 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: in draft capital to get them. Um. You know, I 274 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: think I think there's still so much unknown about what 275 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz can be in this offense that whoever you're 276 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: looking at want I want. I I would be surprised 277 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: to see why Hilton is back next year in Indianapolis. 278 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the the price tag versus sort 279 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: of the declining production, especially with what they hope to 280 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: have there. I don't I don't know that he'll be back. 281 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Um So that means Pittman, Zach, Pascal, Paris Campbell. I 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: think these guys are gonna get the opportunity to go 283 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: out and perform. But because none of them really has 284 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: a track record, I don't think that they're going to 285 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: have a very high draft price with them. And you know, 286 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: the upside potentially is really good. I think, you know, selfishly, 287 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: I think Pittman is the guy that I would target more. 288 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm gonna have to reach, you know, 289 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: earlier than shoot. I mean maybe the ninth round, uh, 290 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: for I think a guy like that, I'd be surprised. 291 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: So I do like that part of it, that that 292 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: it's you know, I can add them as kind of 293 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: depth adds. And if they turned out to be something greater, 294 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: then I kind of stumbled onto something. And if they don't, 295 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: then you know, again, it hasn't really hurt a whole 296 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: lot um on the other side, go back to Philly. Now, this, obviously, 297 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: for the moment at least opens the door for Jalen Hurts, 298 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: and I sort of joked on, you know, in a 299 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: in a column I wrote last week that last last Thursday, 300 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: you would be forgiven if you, you know, were on 301 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Fantasy Twitter and thought you had walked into like Wall 302 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: Street bets on Reddit because people were just rocket emojis everywhere. 303 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: When it came to Jalen Hurts last week, I am. 304 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: I think I'll lot more cautious about him than I 305 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: know other people are. I know people are very you 306 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: know all in I think on Jalen Hurts. I liked 307 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: what I saw. I still have questions about the wide 308 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: receiver group there in Philadelphia. And I also realized that 309 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: I went back and looked and he had one huge 310 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: spike game. I had a huge game. I think the 311 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: thirty seven points against the Cardinals. Everything else was just okay. 312 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: It was, you know, eighteen nineteen points, not bad, but 313 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: not great, And so that sort of made me think, Okay, 314 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: this is a guy that maybe has top top to 315 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: it outside, but I felt like more realistically as a 316 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: guy who probably lands somewhere twelve to fifteen for me. 317 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm I'm behind the curve. I 318 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: think when it comes to everybody else, I know that 319 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: you are a little bit more optimistic about Jalen Hurts 320 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: than I am right now, though, yeah, I'm somewhere in 321 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: between you and the rocket emojis. I I saw people 322 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: saying he's a top five fantasy quarterback, and I can't 323 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: do that because I think the top eight or nine 324 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are so good and so proven that you would 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: be making a mistake to take an unproven commodity over them. 326 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: But I think once you get and we know the 327 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: obvious like top guys, but then to round out that 328 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: top nine, I have like Aaron Rodgers, uh and Justin Herbert. 329 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I would still take Justin Herbert over Jalen Hurts today. Um, 330 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: But can that change in a month? I think it 331 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: can if Jalen Hurts and if the Eagles don't sign 332 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: or draft a quarterback, because that is the one thing 333 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: that is giving me pause. I also don't love the 334 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: talent around him. Um. But even if, like Jalen Hurts 335 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: a month from now is their starter, I'm not taking 336 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: him over Dak or Watson or or Lamar or any 337 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks. But I think he does go to 338 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: belong over like Tom Brady and Matt Stafford. And if 339 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: you Rogers and Herbert, I think are an interesting one 340 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: because of what he can just do with his legs. 341 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: In four starts last year, he rushed for two hundred 342 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: and seventy two yards. The only quarterback in NFL is 343 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: three to run for more yards in their first four 344 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: starts with Lamar Jackson, and he averaged in those starts 345 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: sixty eight rushing yards. And in NFL history, three quarterbacks 346 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: ever have averaged over sixty rushing yards. And it's Lamar Jackson, 347 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, and some Jude named Bobby Douglas. Um. I 348 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: don't really know a whole lot about Bob Bobby Douglas, 349 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: but I know Mike mavickon Lamar Jackson are awesome for fantasy. 350 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: So I think that is the upside for Jalen Hurts. 351 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: It's a little bit volatile, but quarterback is so deep 352 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: that if I miss out on those top eight or 353 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: nine guys, I'm fine taking Jalen Hurts in like round 354 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: six or seven and then grabbing Trevor Lawrence or Joe 355 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Burrow or Matt Stafford as a insurance policy. Bears fans, 356 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: well Bears fans at a certain age. No, Bobby Douglas. 357 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I mean he is uh, you know, he's currently seventy 358 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: three years old, so it's been a while since he played, 359 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: uh in the National Football League. Yeah, I said, I 360 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: I see the upside. I really do it. And you know, 361 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: we always talk about looking for quarterbacks who can run 362 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: the football, and and I thought at times he threw 363 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: the ball effectively as well. There were also stretches though, 364 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: where the offense looked stagnant, couldn't really get anything going, 365 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: and and even Hurts himself as a little bit frustrated. 366 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: So I know, I god speed for all of those 367 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: who are going to the moon and and really trying 368 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: to get in early. I I tend to be a 369 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit more cautious, and so for that reason, I 370 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: don't know that I could really you know, I guess 371 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: some of that. I know depends on what the draft 372 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: price is right. And I know you and I talked 373 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: about this that if if we're still talking about him 374 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: in you know, round eight or later than maybe I 375 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: can consider it. If we're talking about having to reach 376 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: into a round six to get Jalen Hurts, then that's 377 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: not that's not a move that that I'm going to make. Um. 378 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: The one thing I hate with this Hurt situation is 379 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: Philly saying they need to bring in competition for him 380 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: because what was the whole last year, like you drafted 381 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: him to be like a Taysom Hill and he beat 382 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: out your franchise quarterback. What more competition does he need? 383 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean that that to me says that they are 384 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: not just confident in just handing him the job, and 385 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, there is still a chance that they draft somebody. 386 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: They have the number six pick. I know, it's sort 387 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: of a weird spot because you figure, you know, obviously 388 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Lawrence is gonna be gone. There's a chance that you know, 389 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson or somebody may be gone. And six it 390 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: is kind of a weird spot to get one of 391 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks. There might be a little bit too early, 392 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: so who knows. But um, there's nothing right now that 393 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: says in stone that Jalen Hurts is going to be 394 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Eagles on Week one, And 395 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: that's sounded kind of something to take into account. You 396 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: also mentioned that you're not in love with any of 397 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: the past catchers there, and I completely understand that they 398 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: just released the Sean Jackson, Uh, the expectations they're going 399 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: to release al Shan Jeffrey. So that leaves you with 400 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: what Jalen reagor who you know was underwhelming last year 401 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: when he was on the field. Uh, you know Travis 402 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Fulgum had flashes, but you know he and Greg Ward. 403 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: That's not a sustainable way to keep a wide receiver 404 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: group going. Um. J j Artega Whiteside is looking like 405 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: a bust after a couple of years right now. I mean, 406 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: any of these guys, I guess Raagor is the one 407 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: you take a shot at. But even then, I mean, 408 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: how how long would you wait before he pulled the 409 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: trigger on Jalen Reagor. Yeah, not like this receiving call 410 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: right now, where like where fantasy hyped the last couple 411 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: of years has gone to die, Like Jalen Reagor had 412 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: so much hype, Arthego, Whiteside came out with a lot 413 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: of hype. Even Travis Folgum in the middle of the 414 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: season last year had a lot of hype and they 415 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: all just flamed out and didn't live up to it. 416 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor is the one that I would reach, and 417 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: even like in early drafts. Right now he's going in 418 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: like the tenth rounders, So so I think that's especially 419 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: like a best ball of that. That's what I'm doing 420 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: now if I'm doing drafts, because no way am I 421 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: doing drafts, and I've got to set waivers and stuff. 422 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: But in a beastball league, I see the appeal of 423 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: a Jalen Reagor because he is so explosive down the 424 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: field that there's any sort of chemistry there with Hurts 425 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: or whoever could be throwing the ball in Philly. He 426 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: can easily live up to expectation. But the thing is, 427 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm expecting them to bring someone in, like whether it 428 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: be in free agency or the draft. Like if they're 429 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: gonna trade Zacorts and and cut uh D Jackson all 430 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Sean and move on from all these old aging players like, 431 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you still need to bring pieces in. So I think 432 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: the Philly top pass catcher might not even be on 433 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: their roster as of today. Yeah, if you're jam and 434 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: Regor and I guess if you're an Eagles fan, you 435 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: either hope that Ragor really picks it up in the 436 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: next year or two, or that Justin Jefferson's rookie year 437 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: was just a mirrage. Man, that's gonna be rough if 438 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: if Justin Jefferson turns out to be a stud for 439 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: the next decade, and and Ragor is not what they think. 440 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: If any fantasy person was running the Eagles, they would 441 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: have Justin Jefferson today. Yep, pretty much pretty much. I 442 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: think spot on right there. Um, So, now we've seen 443 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: we've seen Matt Stafford and Jared Goff traded for one 444 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: another with some picks thrown in. We've seen Carson Wentz traded. 445 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: Do you think this has any bareing on what happens 446 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson in the next weeks or months. I 447 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: think the Stafford trade had a much larger impact on 448 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: it than this trade, because that was like like a 449 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: lot of like picks were involved in that. This was 450 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: more a we knew Watson wasn't going to the Colts. 451 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: They were not going to trade him in their division 452 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: and be like here when the division the next ten 453 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: years against us, They just weren't gonna do that. And 454 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is nowhere near even in the same stratosphere 455 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: as Deshaun Watson in my opinion, So I don't think 456 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: this trade will have much effect on it other than 457 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: it just makes the quarterback market even less available on 458 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback market, which maybe, you know, supplying demand. Maybe 459 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: it makes Watson worth even more. Yeah, I mean, Houston, 460 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: as as many missteps as they've made recently, they're at 461 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: least smart enough to realize that they need a king's 462 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: ransom from someone in order to trade Deshaun Watson. And 463 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: the question becomes whether or not somebody out there is 464 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: willing to pay that. Uh, you know, I know that 465 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: the forty nine and the Broncos are reported to be 466 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: heavily involved and whether or not either team is interested 467 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: in sort of making that move. Uh, we'll see. So 468 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: who knows? All right? That gets us to the end 469 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: of our positional recaps here. I mean, unless we want 470 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: to be silly enough to do defenses and kickers, but 471 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think we do. Shaking your head, 472 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: so I'm annyone know, uh and I agree, So let's 473 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: just finish this stuff with tight ends here. Um, which, 474 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: by the way, if you haven't checked it out already, 475 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: Florio put out his top twelve tight end rankings. You 476 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: can find that on NFL dot com, so go check 477 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: those out. And so we'll start here with where we 478 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: have started with all the other positions here. Who who 479 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: is your biggest you feel like your biggest hit at 480 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 1: the tight end position, which, look, I get a big, 481 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: big hit at tight end might not necessarily seem spectacular, 482 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: But who do you feel like you kind of got right? 483 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: So that's exactly how I I wrote down, Like, were 484 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: there any hits outside of the Waller and Kelsey unless 485 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: you were on like, let's craft all of them? But 486 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: U T J. Hockenson maybe, but I wasn't. I was 487 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: more on no offense than I was on Hokinson, So 488 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take credit for that as a hit. 489 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: I think the hits and markets, you're gonna laugh at 490 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: the names I put in these hits, because I said 491 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: even the hits were super frustrating, like Gronk finished tight 492 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: end eight, hayden Hurst finished tight end ten, Mikeasecki finished 493 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: tight end seven. I think if you looked at the 494 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the year where they were ranked and where 495 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: they finished at the end of the year, those three 496 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: would classify as hits. If you had any of those three, 497 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: you know that they were anything but right. And I 498 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: think that's sort of the thing, like I, you know, 499 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: for at least half the year, I felt like I 500 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: was big on I hit on Johnny Smith. I was 501 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: big on him in the off season and the first 502 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: half of the year. Everything worked out great the back 503 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: half of the year and we saw a lot more, 504 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, like Anthony Firkser getting involved in that sort 505 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: of thing, and so that sort of fell apart. I 506 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: was big on hayden Hurst, and you're right, he does 507 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: finish technically as a top ten tight end, but it 508 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: was a miserable ride trying to get there. The same 509 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: with Mike KASICKI, I mean, you know, was another late 510 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: round guy that I took shots at and he does 511 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: finish in the top ten. But uh, you know, with 512 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: with those kind of guys, I feel like it was 513 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: less about what they did and just more a statement 514 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: on the general state of the position. Um So that 515 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: being said, I feel like, you know, coming up with 516 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: mrs is a whole lot easier. I'm going to ask 517 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I know what your answer is going to be, but 518 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask who it was your big tight 519 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: end missed this year Tyler Higbee. Man, Marcus, you probably 520 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: remember last summer when I came on the podcast and 521 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: you were like, how high can Tyler Higbee finish if 522 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: things live up? And I think I said tighten four 523 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: And that was because he had the big three And 524 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: I said he could have been right after that. That 525 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: would have that was a huge mistake. And I remember 526 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: after Week two when he had those three touchdowns, I 527 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: tweeted out like Tyler Higby beast and I felt great. 528 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, he's gonna live up to expectations. 529 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: He did not have another good game after that, it 530 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: felt like and then two other misses I had. Evan 531 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Ingram was a big one because my approach last year 532 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: was Higby or Ingram because I thought they had a 533 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: lot of upside and you didn't need to pay a 534 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: big price to get him. Evan Ingram was such a disappointment. 535 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Even in mid season, I was saying, like, trade for him. 536 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: He has all the tools, there's targets going his way, 537 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: and he cost me in in a couple of weeks 538 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: where I did move for him. And then my last miss, 539 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: this is a blast from the past, named Marcus jack Doyle. 540 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: I thought Jack Doyle was going to be a safe 541 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: tight end too that you can get super cheap in drafts, 542 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and you know he'd be like a top fifteen tight end. 543 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: And then there was a revolving door at tight end 544 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: for the Colts and he wasn't even a part of 545 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: it most weeks. So those were three bad misses. My 546 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: big one was Evan Ingram for sure. I was I 547 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: was big on Evan Ingram, especially because I had Daniel 548 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: Jones as a sleeper this year. I thought I thought 549 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: this was gonna be a time for Daniel Jones to 550 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: step up and really progress, and I felt like, okay, 551 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: if Jones takes a step forward. The guy who's gonna 552 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: benefit the most is probably gonna be Evan Ingram and 553 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: well as uh, Daniel Jones didn't really take a big 554 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: step forward. Evan Ingram really struggled most of the year. 555 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: Uh you know a lot. I know, for you sat 556 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: here for some of these shows and we talked to 557 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: our old friend Eddie Murphy, and you know, he was 558 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: frustrated with you know, every Ingram drops or fumbles or 559 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: just the the giants general inability to consistently produce anything. Um, 560 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: that one, I think that one for me was maybe 561 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the the biggest one. I would say that I guess 562 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: I missed on Gronk in the cent and I didn't 563 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: think he could finish in the top ten. I thought 564 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: he would be more twelve to fifteen somewhere around there. 565 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: So in terms of just kind of missing and getting 566 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: it wrong, uh, you know, I kind of was was 567 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: wrong on on Gronk there, but those four weeks he 568 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: missed out him. Good Grounk. We're so for everybody who 569 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: got involved, like, congrats, it looked like on your bench. 570 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: I been, it looked like a party. So you know, 571 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: I wish I could have been there seemed like it 572 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: was a good time. Uh, you know, in the meantime, 573 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: I was spending a lot of that time trying to 574 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: pick the right logan Thomas Weeks uh, which was another 575 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: one he finishes, is the top three tied end And 576 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, I guess he you know, he 577 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: finished strong down the stretch and that's what helped. But 578 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it doesn't make sense at all. 579 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: So if we spend that forward, then to you know, 580 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: the the top three once again in drafts are going 581 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: to be Travis Kelsey, who was gonna be a first 582 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: round pick in a lot of drafts, and then probably 583 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 1: George Chittle and Darren Waller. Who is your tight end 584 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: four At this moment for me, it is Mark Andrews. 585 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: And last year I made the mistake of doubting Darren 586 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Waller can he repeat his season? And Mark Andrews I 587 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: had a little bit of concerns for and he came 588 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: out this year though finishing it wasn't as great to 589 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: start like. There was definitely some frustrations early on with 590 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, and and we see that he does not belong, 591 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: in my opinion, in the same class as a Darren Waller, 592 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: but he did finish as a tight in six this year. 593 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: He has been top six two straight years. And when 594 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: you look at his numbers, yeah, they kind of did 595 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: drop across the board, but they were so close to 596 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: what they were in twenty nineteen. Minus the touchdowns to 597 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns went from ten to seven. That's gonna hurt a 598 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: little bit, but every other set was so close to 599 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: what he was in twenty nineteen. We know that he 600 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: is Lamar Jackson's number one target in that passing offense. 601 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm going to have Mark Andrews as 602 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: the tight end four, albeit by saying he should go 603 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: at least two rounds after the tighten three. Yeah, he's 604 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: gonna go. There's gonna be a big gap I think 605 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: between the tighten three and the tight end four. I 606 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: go back to that that first breakout season, the twenty 607 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: nineteen year, and it was sort of amazing because he 608 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: did it on relatively few targets. I mean, he had 609 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: fewer than a hundred targets. He had sixty four catches, 610 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: but you know, big yardage numbers. The ten touchdowns definitely helped. Uh. 611 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: The seven touchdowns this past year kind of helped keep 612 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: him afloat when he was seeing fewer targets and catches 613 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. Um, And I do think 614 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: that his numbers are gonna stay sort of flat. I 615 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: don't I don't expect a major drop off from Mark 616 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: Andrews this year. But I'm going with t J. Hawkinson 617 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: as as my tied end for this year. Um, he's 618 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: a guy who's a you know, this past year is 619 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: a was a big target guy. Some of it was 620 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: because of injury, there was no Kenny Golladay, but there's 621 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: also a chance there might not be Kenny Golladay next year. 622 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: To Golladay is a free agent. Um. You know, I 623 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: said recently that that Golladay leaving or Golladay coming back, 624 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: I should say, is good for the Lions offense as 625 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: a whole, right you you It's always good to have 626 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: a talented wide receiver like that. Golladay leaving is great 627 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: news for t J. Hawkinson because I think that that 628 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: could be where Jared Goffins up going with the football 629 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot. Um. Not only that they used him as 630 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, at least a semi downfield threat. He was 631 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: good when it comes to yards after catch. It was 632 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: sort of that intersection of everything you want from a 633 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: tight end, you know, outside of the elites. And you know, again, 634 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think will be on the board, 635 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, in round five or six potentially. Uh. Although 636 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: you at the point before we started recording that there's 637 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys sort of in this middle group 638 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: that are all sort of interchangeable, right that I feel like, 639 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's not gonna be a real consensus. I 640 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: think in rankings at tight end, after you get outside 641 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: the top three this year, I see, to me, I 642 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: think there's the top three, and then I have tier 643 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: two for me would be Andrews and Hockinson. And then 644 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I think after those five from like tight end six 645 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: through like tight end almost twenty, you can put those 646 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: names in any order. And that's why I think, again, Marcus, 647 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear this is finally the year. Look how 648 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: deep tight end is? Blah blah blah. There's fifteen tight ends. 649 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: You grab two of them and you're good. We know 650 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: that's never the case, like we say it every summer 651 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: and it never ends up happening. But there just is 652 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: so many tight ends. There's there's the like the Gronk 653 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: and the Hearst and those guys that we talked about. 654 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: There's a whole crop of young tight ends. And to me, 655 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: if I miss out on those big three may maybe 656 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: I might dive down until, like you know, like a 657 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: couple rounds later to get a Andrews or Hockinson. But 658 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: if I miss out on those two two then then 659 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting until the double digit rounds are gonna 660 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: grab two upside tight ends because it's the difference between 661 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: like I don't know, a Gronk or a Hayden Hurst 662 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: and Mike Asecki really that different from a tight end 663 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: you can get a couple of rounds later. Some of 664 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: these high upside tight ends that I know we're gonna 665 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: talk about, I don't think so. See, I'm I am 666 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: not going to fall into the tight end is going 667 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: to be deep this year trap. I'm just not. And 668 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: look there there may be a chance of people are 669 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna hate me on Twitter this because I'm gonna be 670 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: buzz Killington, Like every time I see that, I'm gonna 671 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: jump in there, like you know, like training a puppy 672 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: with a spray bottle, Like no, no, it's not stop 673 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: it like I'm gonna be that person on Twitter this 674 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: summer because we we keep doing this to ourselves. Not 675 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: only do we keep doing it to ourselves, we know 676 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: that we're doing it to ourselves. Right. Like, I don't 677 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: know how many times in the last couple of months 678 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: I have seen people say, we're gonna convince ourselves the 679 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: tight end is deep, and then we're gonna get to October, 680 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna say tight ends that. So like, I'm gonna 681 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: be sort of the hall monitor on this this year 682 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: and be like, it's not the don't say it, don't 683 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: tell yourself this, because here we are. But we identified 684 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: just now what five tight ends, and you know the 685 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: top two tiers there, you had another fourteen or fifteen 686 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: that could just sort of be interchangeable at that point, right, 687 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: So we're talking about at best, I'd tell you, we're 688 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: talking about the best fifteen tight ends that could be 689 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: viable for you, right throwing the fact that some of 690 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: them are gonna get hurt, some of them are just 691 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: not going to play well, that number gets cut in 692 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: half quickly and then we're back to where we were. 693 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: So let's stop telling ourselves this lie. Let's just kind 694 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: of like make the best of it. If you don't 695 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: get one of those early guys, then let's figure out 696 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: how to sort of survive. Uh survived the issue, which 697 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: takes us to some of those late round guys. You 698 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: mentioned that you had maybe a couple you're keeping an 699 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: eye on. Who might they be? So one is IRV 700 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: Smith Jr. I love IRB Smith Jr. I think that 701 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: the fact that we're hearing rumors now that Kyle Rudolph 702 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: is unhappy with his role in this offense and he 703 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: wants to move on and go somewhere where he be 704 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: more of a pass catcher is huge because ever since 705 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: the Vikings have drafted IRV Smith, those two have split 706 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: routes ran targets, like their numbers are almost identical in 707 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: an opportunity basis per game. So you get Kyle Rudolph 708 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 1: out of there, and we saw a like month sample 709 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: size of that last season and IRV Smith was putting 710 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: up numbers, and I think Eric Smith has a chance 711 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: to be a big breakout tight end. Another one Cole Commt. 712 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: I know you love him, Marcus, but he showcased last 713 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: year what he can do late in the season. And 714 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: if Jimmy Graham is gone, maybe they'll actually throwing the 715 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: ball in the red zone once or twice, you know, 716 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: who knows. Uh. And then another one that I like, 717 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: really like I'm talking you could basically get with your 718 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: last pick of the draft is Adam Trautman of the Saints, 719 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: just because the Saints are so they're in a really 720 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: bad cap situation, like they are the team that is 721 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: by far the most over the cap, and they're going 722 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: to be looking to shed salary. And to me, I 723 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: think that means that Jared Cook is going to be 724 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: playing for a different team next season and Troutman is 725 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: going to be the starting tight end for the Saints, 726 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: and that is a Saint's offense that we know likes 727 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: to include the tight end. They always have. It was 728 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: Jared Cook before that, I mean, we remember Jimmy Graham, 729 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: and in between those two, we were always trying to 730 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: pick the right tight end when it was Josh Hill 731 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: or one of those guys. So those are three that 732 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: I like a lot. And then there's another young guy, 733 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Marcus So I know we're gonna talk about who hasn't 734 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: even played a snap yet, who I have ranked as 735 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: a tight end one. Yeah, and that's that's I'm I'm 736 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: very kind of get to that too. But I will 737 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: say that of the names you mentioned, I had, you know, 738 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: I had those those guys, the Smith's combats Troutman's. Another 739 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: one I would throw in there is is Dawson Knox, 740 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: who I think has a chance to really, you know, 741 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: maybe take a step forward this year because I think 742 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: we saw one we got comfortable finally with Josh Allen 743 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 1: as a passer, so that kind of took a little 744 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: bit of the worries away. Um. You know, he's fairly young, 745 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: he won't be twenty five until midway through this season, 746 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: and he started to get more involved in the passing 747 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: him late in the year, going through the playoffs, so 748 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: it looked as though Alan was looking his way a 749 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: little bit more. So I think I think there's a 750 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: lot to be excited about with Dawson Knox. There. I also, 751 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: as I was, you know, writing about some some young 752 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: tight end or I shouldn't say young, but upside tight ends. 753 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 1: I guess late round tight ends. I might have talked 754 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: myself into Chris Herndon at least a little bit. Um. 755 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: I know, it feels like we've been talking about Chris 756 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: Herndon forever. He's not even twenty five yet. It just 757 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: it feels like he's been in the league for a 758 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: long time. Like I feel like, you know, he might 759 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: have come in the league with like you know, Kyle 760 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: Rudolph or something like that, but he's not that old. Uh. 761 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: And so you know, depending on what happens, you know 762 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: with the Jets offense, who the quarterback is going to 763 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: be and all that sort of stuff. Um, maybe maybe 764 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: the Chris Herndon dream can actually come true at least 765 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: partially this year. I don't know. Um, but that does 766 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: bring us to Kyle Pitts, who if you follow you know, 767 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: anybody who follows the draft, Um, he he's the one 768 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: name at the tight end position that keeps just jumping 769 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: out and and people are saying that he's he's ready 770 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: to come in and not just start in week one, 771 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: but being a playmaker in week one. That's not the 772 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: norm at the tight end position. But there's a lot 773 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: of excitement about this guy. You have him in your 774 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: top what twelve tide ends this year? You are you 775 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: are really excited about him as well? Right now? Yeah? 776 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: I am. And I don't wanna say like I'm a 777 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 1: scout or a film grinder or anything like that. But 778 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: everything I've seen from Kyle Pitts has just been great. 779 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: And I know the knock on him is his blocking, 780 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: and Marcus, I'll straight up safe for fantasy who cares 781 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: like to me, that just means all right, whichever team 782 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: invested very highly in him is gonna let him run 783 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: more routes and that's what leads to fantasy points. But 784 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: I've even watched some breakdowns and like people are like, no, 785 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 1: his blocking is better than he gets credit for and 786 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: and it gets blown out of proportion a lot of 787 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: the times. But looking into him, he is six six 788 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: two pounds, will get an official listing at his pro day, 789 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: but that's what he's listed as right now. With four 790 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: point six forty speed that is bigger than Draymond Green. Uh, 791 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: he gets comped to de Brian a lot, that is 792 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: bigger than Des Bryant. I looked at and the only 793 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: comparable that I found was Darren Waller, he who is 794 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: six six two fifty six and ran a four four six. Like, yes, 795 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: Darren Waller maybe a little bit bigger and more athletic 796 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: than Kyle Pits But they're like kind of like the 797 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: appointing spider Man kif and I think if any team 798 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: is going to invest a top fifteen pick into maybe 799 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: even top ten, they're gonna look to get him the 800 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: ball right away. And I know rookie tight ends have 801 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: disappointed for the last decade plus. Like I went back 802 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: and found it. There's two tight ends who have scored 803 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: enough points to be tighten one in the rookie season, 804 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: Gronk and Uh. I forget the second one. It was 805 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: another proven tight end Um, but Kyle Pits. I think 806 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the next Kelsey, the next Darren Waller. Like, 807 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: I think he has all of the tools to fit 808 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: into that, and that's why I would take him as 809 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: a top twelve tight end. Although Marcus I will say, 810 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: my fear is that come August he's the sixth tight 811 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: end off the board that you know, you might be right, 812 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: and then that would be a little bit too spicy 813 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: for me. Um. I mean, I don't know what. I 814 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know what to make of him yet. I mean 815 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: I know that the excitement is there, the hype is there. 816 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 1: I would think that at some point I will probably 817 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: you know, draft him somewhere along the line provided the 818 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: the draft price is not too high. Um, but yeah, 819 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: I still just have this this feeling of first year 820 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 1: tight ends generally have a longer learning curve. And maybe 821 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: it is, maybe it will be different. Maybe it will 822 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: be a situation like you said, where whoever drafts him understands, 823 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, what his strengths and what his weaknesses are, 824 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: and they played his strengths a little bit more, uh, 825 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,479 Speaker 1: and allow him to kind of be one of those 826 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: guys that would certainly make me feel a little bit better. Um. 827 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I just I we all know the 828 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: history of first round tight ends, and I don't think 829 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: it's anything because you know, I don't think it's because 830 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: guys are not talented. I just think it's because what 831 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: asked of them at the NFL level is a lot 832 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: different than what's asked to them at the college level. 833 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: But I know the hype there. Yeah, I found the 834 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,760 Speaker 1: other name. He's best rookie tight end in the last decade, 835 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. That was gonna be actually that was gonna 836 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: be like that, you know, but he was. That's why 837 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: we're all, that's why we keep clinging to Evan Ingram, 838 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: right because he had that great rookie year and he 839 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: hasn't come close to doing that since then. So, you know, 840 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: I don't know this Is this a maker or make 841 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: or break year for Evan Ingram at least fantasy wise? 842 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't happen this year, is it just 843 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, is it's just not gonna happen now? I 844 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: think so. I think for it's a maker at least 845 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: in my mind, it's a make or break year for 846 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: two tight ends, because I can't just keep getting drawn 847 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: into what they did is rookies and and sit telling myself, 848 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: oh well, they have so much upside. It's Ingram and 849 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: it's Hunter Henry. Yeah, yeah, I think I was. I 850 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: was a big Hunter Hanley fan from the moment he 851 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: was drafted, and you know, I gave it a couple 852 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: of years. Antonio Gates was there at first, so we 853 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: knew he was gonna share time and he hurt and 854 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: it just you know, it just hasn't really happened. And 855 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't know what happens with him. 856 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: I think he hits free agency, I believe this year. Um, 857 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens where he goes if he 858 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: stays with the Chargers or not. But I am I'm 859 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: sort of with you that I think I'm I'm fading 860 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. Now, um, I reserve the right to change 861 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: that if he lands in what I think is a 862 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: favorable spot, which let's let's let's say this, Hunter Henry 863 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: goes to, say Indianapolis, where Carson Wentz has been pretty 864 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: good at getting the ball to tight ends. Does does 865 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: that get you more excited about Hunter Henry? Yeah? Because 866 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: last season the only quarterback that through the tight ends 867 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: more was Patrick Mahomes. And I mean he's tryps who 868 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: blames him? But yeah, and Carson Wentz, I know it. 869 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: It kind of is a personnel thing because they had 870 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: Zach Hurts for so long, but that's a staple of 871 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: his game. Since he's coming to the NFL throwing to 872 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: the tight end. So and and the Colts, well, they 873 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't have a tight end last year. We're heavily involving, 874 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: especially in the red zone. There three tight ends. So 875 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: I think that would be a really good landing spot 876 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: for Henry, and that would get me sucked back in. Um, 877 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: I did want to one tight end that I have. 878 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: I've ranked him as a top twelve, but I basically 879 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: no interest in drafting him. Is big Bob Tonyon. He 880 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: was averaging three point seven targets per game last year. Yeah, 881 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: what what happened last year definitely feels like a mirage 882 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: with him. Um, I mean eleven touchdowns. When you say 883 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: when you say Travis Kelsey had eleven touchdowns, You're like, yeah, 884 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: he can do that. Again, you say Robert Tonyan had 885 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns, I'm sort of like, yeah, that that doesn't 886 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: seem like it, like you know. So, so I I 887 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: am curious to see where people draft him because I 888 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: do think that I think a lot of people are 889 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: gonna be very hands off with Robert Tony in this 890 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: year just because it just doesn't it doesn't feel sustainable. Uh, 891 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: for a guy that had fifty two catches and fewer 892 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: than six hundred receiving yards. It just doesn't feel like 893 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: another top five finish it's possible for him. Um all right, 894 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: So you know, so there's your takeaway tight end not deep, 895 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: get one early or you know, pay the penalty or 896 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: something like that. Um, so as we finish up. I 897 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: I saw over the weekend that uh, the Legend of 898 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: Zelda uh turned thirty five turns thirty five this year, 899 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: which I thought about it, and I'm like, Link, the 900 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: video game character Link has been on this earth longer 901 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: than you, Florio, which is crazy. He's been around longer 902 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: than you have. Um, but it's funny that I guess 903 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: Nintendo has not properly celebrated it, and so the fans 904 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: have gone out and they've done a lot to kind 905 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: of celebrate that, the fact that this game has survived 906 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: and and you know, expanded the world has expanded for 907 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: so long. But it did make me think of, um, 908 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: which non sports video games? Did you love that? Where 909 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: your go to? Uh? You know, we can sit here 910 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,800 Speaker 1: talking about sports games like all day, but like outside 911 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: of sports video games, whether any that you just felt like, 912 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, that was your jam, that was the one 913 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: you always wanted to play. Yeah. As a kid, I 914 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: was a huge Nintendo fan. Like I played the Mario 915 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,479 Speaker 1: games all the time. I like Donkey Kong, I love 916 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: I got really addicted to Animal Crossing when I was 917 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 1: like ten years old, which is basically like Nintendo's version 918 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: of the SIMS almost and I just like got fully 919 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: like every day for like over a year, I played 920 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: that game. Um, But now that I'm older. My go 921 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: to game is Gears of War on Xbox, but I 922 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 1: still I still have to switch and I play like 923 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: Mario Kard and Super Smash Brothers. I play with my fiancee, 924 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: who I will admit is much better than me in 925 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,320 Speaker 1: those games. So did you get back into Animal Crossing 926 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: like recently? Because I know that with the pandemic people 927 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: were like really heavy into Animal Crossing. Did you did 928 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: you go back to it? I didn't buy the game 929 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: because I probably would have. I tried the phone app 930 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: game they made, and I played that for like a 931 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: solid week or two, and I was like, all right, 932 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: I had my fix. Uh, Steve, did you have any 933 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: any non sports games that you were big on? And 934 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm shocked that this in the first word out of 935 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 1: Florio's mouth, and if it's yours, Marcus, I'm sorry for 936 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: taking it. But it's Pokemon, and it has to be Pokemon. 937 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 1: That's the the the game that we grew up with. 938 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: It's like the the original almost M m O RPG 939 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: in the way that you traded with your friends and 940 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: you came up with plans. Like before I battled the 941 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: Elite four, I got a white board out like I 942 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: was game planning to play the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. 943 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: Like it was. It was deep, uh but like for me, 944 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm like a red blue yellow and then they remakes 945 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: the fire red leaf green and that's it. There are 946 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: no other Pokemons that exist. Um to me, I've played 947 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: I When I got Pokemon Red was the first one 948 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: I ever got, and like I didn't look up from 949 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: my game Boy color for like weeks when I got that. Yeah, 950 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: and then caught missing go. I don't know if you 951 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: remember that, and then mess I had to send my 952 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: cartridge to Nintendo and tell them, like which Pokemon I 953 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: had it. Like I was on the phone for like 954 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: an hour, and like they reprogrammed my game and sent 955 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: it back. It was but yeah, I played all the 956 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: way through up until like I got to high school, 957 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: and then I was like, all right, maybe I should 958 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: I should stop seeing now. I mean because I think 959 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: I was a little too old for Pokemon. Like when 960 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 1: it hit big, I wanted. I remember during a period 961 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: of fun employment, I think I watched it for like 962 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 1: a month and I'm like this ash dude is terrible 963 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: at his gig. Like that's what I realized. So I 964 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: took away from watching the cartoon and then like, you know, 965 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: I think I started calling him trash catch him or 966 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: something like that. For a while, He's very good. It 967 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: feel like he's very good at it. I did play 968 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: Pokemon Go when it got popular, for like, I played 969 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: that for a few weeks. Um, but it was like 970 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: killing my phone battery. So I think I stopped buying 971 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: because it was just draining the life out of my 972 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: phone all the time. Um, you know, I mean I 973 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: go back to for me, like I go back to 974 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. Um, you know, I'm old enough to remember 975 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: when you had to have a special code to get 976 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 1: the blood on motal Moral Kombat because it just looked 977 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: like sweat was flying off these guys when you hit them, 978 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: and like that wasn't any fun. Um, you know, because 979 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: I grew up on Nintendo. I mean, I grew up 980 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: on Zelda, I grew up on like Contra and stuff 981 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: like that. I think when I got to you know, 982 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: I think when I have to play that time I 983 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: got to PlayStation, I was mostly uh mostly sports games, 984 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: but I think I had like a you know, Star 985 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: Wars Rebel Assault that I was really big on that. 986 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: I played a lot of stuff like that. I have not. 987 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: I have faded from gaming a little bit, uh in 988 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 1: recent years. Um. You know, part of it was being 989 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: broke for a while because then I was like, you know, 990 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: if you're broke, you don't have money to spend on 991 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: our games. So that's sort of changed it a little bit. Um. 992 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: But I'm trying to get back. I want to get 993 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: I want to get back to I tried to do 994 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: World of Warcraft. I played for like an hour and 995 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: I got stomped, and I'm like, this is I'm not 996 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: World of Warcraft. Um overwatched That's what it was. I 997 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: played for an hour and I got smashed, and I'm like, 998 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: this isn't fun. So these days are they're basically all 999 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: professional gamers pretty much. I gotta find something that I 1000 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: can I can play. Marcus. If if you're a Mortal 1001 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: Kombat fan, haven't you seen the new trailer? I seen 1002 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: the new trailer. I look so good. It looks so good, 1003 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: and then threw just enough of the game stuff in there, 1004 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: like a lot of the catch phrases from the game 1005 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: that I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna watch this like I'll 1006 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: be you know, it'll be because I'll be the only 1007 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: one in my house who watches it, so it'll be 1008 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: like up late on a Friday or Saturday night, like 1009 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: by myself. But I'm totally gonna watch. Yeah. Absolutely. It 1010 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: looks way better than the nineties one, which I loved 1011 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: as a kid. Which random I think I found it 1012 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 1: on I don't know if it's Netflix or I was 1013 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: on Prime, but I did see it there and I 1014 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: started watching this and I'm like, this is really corny. 1015 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,959 Speaker 1: So hopefully this one, hopefully this one is a little 1016 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: bit better. So all right, that feels like the perfect 1017 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 1: spot to pull the shoot on this one. That is it. 1018 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you hanging out with the 1019 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football show. You know the drill. 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