1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: for our enemies because we're going to medieval. 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 2: On these people. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: He's not got a free shot. All these networks lying 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: about the people, the people have had a belly full 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: know you tried to do everything in the world to 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: going to happen. And where do people like that go 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: to share the big line? 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: Mega media? 12 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my 14 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: task and what is my purpose? If that answer is 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: to save my country, this country will be saved war. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Here's your host, Stephen k. 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: Bath. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 4: Every country in the Middle East except maybe the UAE 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: is desperate to avoid this war. The Chinese and the 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: Russians don't want this war. Trump really doesn't want this war. 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 4: Who wants this war? Benjamin Netanyahu? 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 5: Wow? 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: Will he get the war that he wants? 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Boy? 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: It's very hard to say. I go back and forth 26 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: on this one. On one hand, I say this war 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: can happen because we can't achieve our goals by striking Iran, 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: and furthermore, you have to take into account what Iran 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: can do in retaliation. You were just talking about the 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 4: straits of war moves and what the consequences would be 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 4: if that one heated up, And of course the Iranians 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 4: are going to launch ballistic missiles at Israel as well. 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: So it's hard to see why it makes sense to 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: start this war from a purely strategic point of view. 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: But then it looks like Trump has boxed himself in. 36 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 4: And furthermore, the Israelies appear to be putting enormous pressure 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: on him to go to war against Iran, and you know, 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: can he disobey his masters? I don't think so. So 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: that pushes me in the other direction. So I feel 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: one day war is inevitable because of pressure from the Israelis, 41 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: and the next day I think it's not going to 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: happen because I can't tell the story as to how 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: a war leads to some sort of happy ending for 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: all the party. 45 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Okay, that's Professor Mersheimer. Obviously the guy's been dead right 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: on Ukraine the entire time. Matt Boyle now joins us 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: from Greece, another tinderbox of this part of the broader 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: region Matt overnight, Axios came out with a and we 49 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: had Captain fanel On here yesterday go through a detailed 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: presentation kind of an NSC type briefing all the assets 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: pouring into the region. Axios this morning reports that this 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: is much farther advanced strategically and the planning in the 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: White House than people understand. You're in the region right now, 54 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: your situation, the event you had with Kimberly Guildfort was great, yes, 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: say she's our great and bad. I don't know what's 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: more beautiful, Matt, is that you're smiling visage of Matt Boyle, 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: the national editor Breitbart, or the Acropolis at sundown in 58 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: the background, Sir, Yeah, well. 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: I mean the Greeks are totally hooking it up here. 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 6: For me, We've got the Acropolis back back behind me, 61 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 6: which is pretty impressive to see the the It's been 62 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: quite a it's my second trip here, really exciting. 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: It's your point about. 64 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 6: You know what may or may not be booming with 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 6: regard to Iran and the President's eventual decision making there. 66 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 6: Everyone here is talking about that right like, so, I've 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 6: been having a series of discussions with folks in the 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 6: media in Athens, as well as political defense business leaders 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 6: both inside and outside government, since I've arrived a little 70 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 6: over a day ago, and everybody expects something to happen 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 6: from President Trump. Exactly what nobody really seems to know yet, 72 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 6: and I don't think anybody knows except President Trump. Ultimately, 73 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 6: the President will make a decision. I think that there 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 6: are several things that the President is keeping in mind 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 6: as he makes any kind of a decision with regard 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: to Iran. And the first and most important thing, if 77 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 6: you remember see last time we talked, is the polling 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 6: data that shows that support for taking out the regime 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 6: in Iran significantly drops when you start talking about even 80 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 6: one American casualty. So I think the president, you know, 81 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: if you look at the two major military successes so far, 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 6: and I'm talking about major ones. There have been a 83 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 6: lot of minor ones as well, like taking out the 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 6: terrorists and stuff. But I'm talking about the major ones, 85 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 6: the striking Iran, taking out the nuclear program last year 86 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: and at the beginning of this year, to you know, 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 6: the capture of Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela. 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: What is the constant in both of those cases. 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 6: Very short operation no American lives at risks, clearly defined 90 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 6: policy outcome and goal that was in the American interest 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 6: and achieved, you know, quickly and without paying for America. 92 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 6: Right Like, so I think that those are the things 93 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 6: that the President is considering as he. 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: But hangover for a second. The Axios piece was very detailed, 95 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: and this came from administration people, and they talked specifically 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: about the difficulty of the target sets different than the 97 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Twelve Day War. Different because this is just not going 98 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: after nukes and not ballistic missiles. They're talking about a 99 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: several week bombing campaign that's pretty detailed and pretty well planned. 100 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: At the same time, President Trump's in the negotiation and 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: he wants to see results, and he's a master negotiator. 102 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: He's brought in all the possible leverage he could have 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: with this military because they're flooding. You know, you're gonna 104 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: have two carrier battle groups there. Captain Fanel talked about 105 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: the possibility of maybe a third carrier battlegroup of the 106 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Bush that would be available. So when Mersheimer says that 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: President Trump's, do you buy that or you think this 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: is a master negotiation strategy to try to get what 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: he wants to achieve and maybe cut force him to 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: cut off the oil to the Chinese Compani's party to 111 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: bring down the regime economically. 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,559 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, first off, I don't think President Trump 113 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 6: has ever boxed in when it comes to negotiations, and 114 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 6: he's more powerful than he's ever been in his entire 115 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 6: political career here in his second term, especially as he 116 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 6: enters his second year ahead of the State of Union 117 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 6: address a week from today, right like. So, the fact 118 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 6: is is that I think you were going to see. 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 6: I don't know exactly what's going to happen, right, So, 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 6: I don't want to predict the future. But what I 121 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 6: will say is is that the president always has leveraged 122 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 6: and this president in particular is a master negotiator, right Like. 123 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 6: I mean, we've seen it with trade deals, with peace deals, 124 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 6: with economic deals. You know, one of the things I 125 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: talked with Ambassador Guilfoyle about here in Athens last night 126 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 6: is in her first hundred days as US ambassador to Greece, right, 127 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 6: she was delayed to getting here because you know, one 128 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 6: of the beauties of democracy, and we've got the birthplace. 129 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: Of it here right behind me. 130 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 6: One of the beauties of democracy is is that our 131 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 6: United States Senate has all sorts of finicky procedures. But anyway, 132 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: she's been here a little more than one hundred days now. 133 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 6: Finally got through the delays in the United States Senate 134 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 6: and they got her confirmed. 135 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: What has she done? Major energy deals? 136 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 7: Right? 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 6: Like, so they just signed a huge deal with Chevron 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 6: to do offshore drilling an exploration for LNG off the 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 6: coast of Greece. 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, who would have thought that's possible? 141 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 7: Right? 142 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: The Europeans, you know, are are basically doing drill, baby drill. 143 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 6: That's the thing I keep hearing from everybody, Right, everybody 144 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 6: here is walking around talking about drill, baby drill. Who 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 6: would have thought that in Greece or anywhere in Europe, 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 6: you know, a few years ago. But what you're seeing 147 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 6: is is that the you know, these folks are setting 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 6: with President Trump. But again, so what I'm saying is 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 6: is that everything's in negotiation with President Trump. Everything's about 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 6: creating more leverage, everything's about interconnected with everything else. And 151 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 6: so to your point about you know, cutting off the 152 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 6: Chinese Comingist Party, it's worth noting the President has a 153 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: planned trip there coming up in April right, like so, 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 6: and the the ultimate negotiation is with China right about 155 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 6: the future of that. So in all of these other 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 6: trade deals are about creating leverage for that, and the 157 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 6: you know, the India trade deals all about Russia and 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 6: Ukraine and cutting off India from buying Russian energy. 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: So the all of these things are interconnected. 160 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 6: The president has more leverage than he's ever had his 161 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 6: entire political career and his entire life in business. I 162 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 6: think that he has more power and control than ever 163 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: And so no, he's not boxed in. I think if anything, 164 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 6: he's in the driver's scene. 165 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 3: Let's let's talk what happens next. 166 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the carry battlegroups, it looks like, are heading 167 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: to the North Arabian Sea, but you can't forget the 168 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Eastern Mediterranean, where Greece and Turkey are. At the very 169 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: beginning days in this discussion, Hu said, Okay, look, if 170 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: you guys aren't prepared to go, let us go. We'll 171 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: do it, but we will need some defensive support. In 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the first forty eight hours of the twelve day War, 173 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: we shipped I think sailed two or three Aegis class 174 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: cruisers to the Eastern Mediterranean, right off of Greece to 175 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: act as air defense. Is the concern in the region 176 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: that everybody's looking at the North Arabian Sea and hitting Iran, 177 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: but a conflict that could go from the Persian Gulf 178 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: and the because the Iranians, if their hit, are just 179 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: are going to try to hit back. They're going to 180 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: try to hit the old the gas fields and Katar, 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: They're going to try to hit the Saudiast. Is there 182 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: any concern that this could metastasize because you're essentially sitting 183 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: on a tinder box between the Greeks and the Turks 184 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: who hate each other's guts. Sir. 185 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, first off, I will say here a little 186 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 6: bit less of Turkey talk here since on this trip 187 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 6: has compared with my last one, and I think that's 188 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 6: because President Trump has effectively handled there to one and 189 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: you know, he says nice things about him but doesn't 190 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 6: actually give him anything right like. They keep wanting the 191 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 6: same things dating back to twenty nineteen and they haven't 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 6: gotten it right like. So that is what it is 193 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: with that, But more particularly to your point about if 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 6: there is some kind of a war with a Ran 195 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 6: or some kind of a military action. I literally just 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 6: left in an interview where another journalist asked me the 197 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 6: same question, and they are concerned about it here because 198 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 6: of how close it is, right like and. 199 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: So okay, I think we just dropped the feet of 200 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: Matt Bold. Try to get that set back up. Let's 201 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: go to Australia. We got doctor Thayer. This is the 202 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: magic of real America's voice. Let's go to Australia, one 203 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: of our top strategies down there for a big conference 204 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: with Ben Harnwell. Doctor Thayer. Your assessment. You've seen the 205 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: axious piece this morning. You've been warning that this planning 206 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: had to be a much more advanced than it was. 207 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. 208 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 8: It certainly is. And the air bridge keeps flowing into 209 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 8: the region. And if you're looking at the movements of 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 8: course of American mobility of the Air Mobility Command, Steve, so, 211 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 8: lots of resources are flowing into the region. 212 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on one second, because Jim Fanel 213 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: talked about the naval resources to SCO. When you say 214 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: air bridge, what do you mean by that? To find 215 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: it for the audience, and what resources are flowing in 216 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: on the air bridge. 217 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 8: Now so very valuable and resources are flowing in via 218 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 8: American cargo aircraft. Those would be C seventeens and C 219 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 8: five's larger, but principally C seventeens into the region. They 220 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 8: would be bringing personnel, they'd be bringing material that would 221 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 8: be immediately useful to deploy in the region. And that 222 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 8: bridge is very important because it's signifying that America's precious, 223 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 8: valuable and assets are going there right now, right So 224 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 8: they're going to the Middle East presently, uh. And that's 225 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 8: designed to allow, obviously the military option to be executed. 226 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 8: That's also allowed to allow real muscle to be provided 227 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 8: to the diplomatic effort which is ongoing, which is coterminous. 228 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 8: So the Iranian regime is looking down the wrong end 229 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 8: of a very large gun barrel, and that's going to 230 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 8: help with diplomacy. But if diplomacy fails, then the trigger 231 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 8: is going to be pulled against the target set in. 232 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: A raw hang On, let's talk about hang On. I 233 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about the target set because you did 234 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: great analysis in the Twelve Day War and then the 235 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: total obliteration campaign, the expeditionory force of the of the 236 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: of the bombers from Nebraska and the Navy Tomahawk missiles 237 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: also in this the strike the Magnificent Strike Special Forces 238 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: from the eighty second Airborne in Venezuela. This is quite different. 239 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: They're talking now, Axios the League, and it came from 240 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: the illustration a minimum of a several week intense bombing campaigns. Sir, 241 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: your thought, we got about a minute. We're going to 242 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: hold you through. 243 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 8: But your thoughts, well, certainly I would make two points 244 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 8: here just before the break, Steve One. Matt's right that 245 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 8: Trump's not boxed in, and Trump is a master negotiator, 246 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 8: and nothing is determinative yet. But it does look that 247 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 8: we are not just inching, but we're really taking some 248 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 8: We're galloping towards conflict with Iran. That target set could 249 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 8: be limited, or it could be a major attack option. 250 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 8: It's looking like a major attack option against the leadership, 251 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 8: against the Republican Guard, against other military targets, and the 252 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 8: ballistic missiles, of course, which are at at this point 253 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: Iran's principal mechanism of retaliation ballistic missiles, more so than 254 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 8: the modest aircraft assets that they have. So it does 255 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 8: look like we're galloping towards a major attack option against Iran, 256 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 8: and at this time that of course consequences, Hay in. 257 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: One second, We've got thirty seconds. I want to hold 258 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: all this through the next break galloping and not boxed 259 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: in pretty detailed leaks out to the media today, Kurt 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Mills is going to Josh. We're talking about what Mershammer said. 261 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen takes you out on the streets of Minneapolis, 262 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: not the streets of Tehran or break back in a moment. 263 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Stephen k Bas Okay, we lost the 264 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: light in Athens. We're gonna try to get bowled back 265 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: up by phone doctors in Australia. Jim Murgant's gonna be 266 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: with us tomorrow. One of the best geopolitical thinkers around. 267 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Rickards warroom dot com. You go there, You get this 268 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: a landing page, you get ass access to strategic intelligence, 269 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: his newsletter that the c suites that be Chairman of 270 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: the board and CEOs read every month. You get access 271 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: to it. It's based upon this a set of analysis 272 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: he calls predictive analytics. One of the reasons has been 273 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: so accurate is such a legendary figure. Like I said, 274 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna try game up tomorrow morning. Rickards Worroom dot Com, 275 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: go there, right now Rickords Warroom dot COM's a landing page. 276 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: You get access to strategic intelligence and it'll throw in 277 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: a book. He wrote this quite brilliant about Fiat currency 278 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and artificial intelligence. Was money GPT. You cannot miss it. 279 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: Jim Murgerts the best doctor Thayer. It's the middle of 280 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: the night. We're going to get you and we're gonna 281 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: stream your your talks and panels. You're there with Harnwell. 282 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: We couldn't be prouder that you're taking the taking the 283 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: war room and taking it to an Australian audience. Closing 284 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on this, Kurt Mills is on deck. You've you've 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: kind of called this from the beginning. You've got an 286 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: air bridge. Now you get massive naval assets coming in 287 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: leaks from the White House saying that the planning for 288 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: this and for a sustained long attack is much more 289 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: developed than people have thought. You're closing thoughts are Yeah. 290 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 8: They're certainly signaling that, see right, they're signaling that this 291 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 8: is going to be major attack. That's useful for diplomacy, 292 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 8: as I said, and that would certainly be useful if 293 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 8: conflict erupts. My thoughts are these that closing thoughts. Are 294 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 8: these not determinative. President Trump can alter course if he 295 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 8: chooses to. Secondly, major attack option is going to be sustained, 296 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 8: and that's going to involve it's very difficult tart gets 297 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 8: set going after individuals and going after even ballistic missiles 298 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 8: and cruise missiles, which the Iranians have and which will 299 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 8: likely be along with terrorism, their principal means of retaliation 300 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 8: against the Gulf Shakedoms and US allies and perhaps the 301 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 8: US itself. Finally, this is these assets are precious, So 302 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 8: all the assets that are going into this area have 303 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 8: a high opportunity cost. Right, They're not around Japan, they're 304 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 8: not around Taiwan, they're not around the Philippines. Even as 305 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 8: Chinese communist parties aggression continues against our allies and partners 306 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 8: in the Indo Pacific and elsewhere. So China's military build 307 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 8: up and its aggression continues, and the assets that are 308 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 8: in the Middle East can't be used to serve conventional 309 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 8: detern or other missions in the Indo Pacific. So very 310 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 8: important to keep that in mind. If there is going 311 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 8: to be a war, it's likely going to be one 312 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 8: which is sustained. And of course every war takes its 313 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 8: own course right once you start it. As Klauswitz warned, 314 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 8: of course, warfare is not predictable. It will have its 315 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 8: own pathway, So very important to keep these points in 316 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 8: mind as we move towards obviously great security competition with Iran. 317 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: What is your social media? How they follow you on 318 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: your trip and all your writings and analysis? 319 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 8: Sir Well brad theare X and Bradley there get her 320 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 8: in truth and thanks you very much Steve for streaming. 321 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 8: We have a lot of great Australians here who are 322 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 8: working with us to solve really to cut the Gordian 323 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 8: k nod of Western politics, which is how can the 324 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 8: people of Western countries be heard right? How is it 325 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 8: that you can change path and bring about popular change, 326 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 8: whether it's in Ireland or in Texas or in Australia. 327 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 8: Thanks very mull. 328 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: We sent two of our biggest hammers, doctor Bradley Thayer 329 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: and our own Ben Harnwell from our international division in Rome. 330 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: So thank you sir, Thank you for being out there. 331 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: It's great. Look forward to streaming all the panels and 332 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: speeches and get you guys back on fantastic. Kurt Mills 333 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: the leak overnight to axios and others. I think part 334 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: of that came from, obviously the Israelis. The writer is 335 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: known to be very plugged in at the highest levels 336 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: of the Israeli military, intelligence services and government. What is 337 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: your thought is this, President Trump? Is this another strategic 338 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: asset he's using to try to get to a negotiate 339 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: in Because as you said two days ago, we had 340 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: you on this thing's changing every twelve hours. So given 341 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: the fact that they're sending a message that hey, we 342 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: have been planning this for a while, we under stand 343 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: that this target set is not going to be a 344 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: one night knockout like the Twelve Day War or Venezuela, 345 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: and we're set if we do it, we're set to 346 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: go in and we're set to Essentially, let's be blunt. 347 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: This is not about the nuclear at least what's been 348 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: purported is not about the nuclear program. It's not about 349 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: the blisting missile. This is a it looks like planning 350 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: a regime change strike. 351 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: Sir. 352 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I think the first thing that you flag 353 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 9: that it's been a bit of a whiplash is an understatement. 354 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 9: Yesterday morning Eastern Time, so as the negotiations were concluding 355 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 9: at the end of the business day in Europe on Tuesday. 356 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 9: The Iranian readout was quite positive on how the negotiations went. 357 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 9: They thought that they had a framework for continuing the 358 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 9: talks and the US signal that the talks would continue. 359 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 9: The Vice President's appearance on Fox News or Fox Business 360 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 9: at the evening Eastern time, or at least when it aired, 361 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 9: was open to some interpretation of a roar shock test. 362 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 9: Some thought that Vance's rhetoric was pretty hawkish, indicating that 363 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 9: they'd only signaled that they were to continue the talks. 364 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 9: Others thought that there was more of an opening there. Dvance, 365 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 9: the Vice President, only emphasized, as the President has emphasized 366 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 9: that no nuclear weapon is the goal. So if that 367 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 9: is the goal, in my view, they will come to 368 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 9: a deal. If the goal is more expansive, i e. 369 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 9: Zero enrichment, Basically what it would take is ninety percent 370 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 9: in Richmond to get a nuclear weapon. So if they 371 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 9: accepted some low level in RICHMENTD like one point five, 372 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 9: I think we would get a deal. If the goal 373 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 9: is zero enrichment or even more expansive ballistic missiles, then 374 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 9: I think we are going to war. And the report 375 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 9: that revened in you're right to say the acost writer 376 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 9: is extremely plugged in. I believe he's a dual national 377 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 9: or he's literally just an Israeli says that not only 378 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 9: is Trump considering going to war, that it's going to 379 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 9: be a war that is far, far, far more expansive 380 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 9: than the operation that went on to Maduro. Indeed, as 381 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 9: the midnight hour approached Eastern time last night, the people 382 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 9: very plugged into it thought that there was a chance 383 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 9: not only of a strike a la June twenty twenty five, 384 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 9: but a broader maneuver. And as the day as wanted 385 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 9: is on today Wednesday, the Iranians appear prepared for that 386 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 9: contingency and that battle that ship before is ap appears 387 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 9: to be a lot closer to the region that people 388 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 9: understood even the day ago. 389 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: So let's go back. I want to go back over 390 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: there for a second, particularly because the region. I think 391 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: people in the region are not as gung ho as 392 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: as because of the blistic missile situation, the gas fields 393 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: with Qatar, which I think some of them jointly run 394 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: with the Persians. You got the situation with the southeast 395 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: and the blistic missiles. I can't see now if you're saying, hey, 396 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: it's got to be totally about enrichment in nuclear I 397 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: just don't see how President Trump gets off this ballistic 398 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: missile situation because I think it's absolutely not ICBMs, not 399 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: things that would hit the United States as a lot 400 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: of people, you know, to run hurified. These are these 401 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: are these are the blistic missiles hit Tel Aviv that 402 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: did so much damage, also could hit Qatar. And they're 403 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: really concerned about the old fields. I've talked to people 404 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: that are experts in the region. They're saying, hey, you 405 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: get into a three or four week shooting war. Here 406 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: our gas field, that massive gas field that supplies so 407 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: much for Europe and others could be taken out and 408 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: not be brought back up for five years. So I 409 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: don't see any situation. Do you think that these negotiations 410 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: can't include some sort of discussion of blistic missiles? And 411 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: if you're saying the Iranians are going to say, well, 412 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: heck would that would just go to war, then I 413 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: think we're in the path to a kinetic conflict, right. 414 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 9: I mean, look, the president has to decide basically what 415 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 9: his criterion are. I totally see a pathway to negotiation 416 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 9: without the missiles. That's what the original negotiations were last spring, 417 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 9: before the negotiations were interrupted by the israel Is. And 418 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 9: then frankly, this is why our politics are becoming corroded 419 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 9: by this discussion. Frankly, the mcbms, the medium range ballistic missiles, uh, 420 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 9: don't affect the United States. They're not a threat to 421 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 9: the United States. They're a threat to Israel. They're not 422 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 9: a threat to anybody else in the region. 423 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: They're not a threat hang on, hanging hand. They're a 424 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 1: threat to the gas fields, are they not. That's what 425 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: They're going to hit the gas only in the war. Yeah, only, 426 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: that's yes, Yes. 427 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: We don't go to war. 428 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 9: There's no there's no threat. 429 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: Right, Uh, but we haven't. They didn't hit Israel until 430 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: we went to war there. Anyway, what it seems, it 431 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: seems like from the messaging over the last twenty four hours, 432 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: and we had Rabbi Wilucki on here yesterday and one 433 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: thing he mentioned about the framework, he said, look, the 434 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: way the Persians, as you know, they're so bureaucracked, the 435 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: way they traditionally negotiate is a win for them is 436 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: to have another meeting. And so this may be going down, 437 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: and Wick coffin Kushner could be reporting back and saying, hey, 438 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: they want to get the next meeting. There's a serious list, 439 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: but are we really making any headway on the big issues? 440 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: As you know, President Trump is a patient man, but 441 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: he does have limited patients. Sir, Yeah, I know. 442 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 9: I mean the pretty hawkish nuclear expert who I think 443 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 9: is who is a professional. I don't agree with his politics. 444 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 9: But David Albright has signaled that the Iranians are beginning 445 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 9: to hide nuclear weapons sorry you have a nuclear material 446 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 9: again underground further to try to shield them from bombing. 447 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 9: So there is evidence that, you know, look that the 448 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 9: iridiance could be stalling. But I think the overriding story 449 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 9: here is that this is basically a bureaucratic, autocratic you know, 450 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 9: almost Soviet highed part of the world, and that they 451 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 9: are pretty slow and negotiating. In fact, they still maintain 452 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 9: that they want to do indirect negotiations, which is these 453 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 9: are sort of bizarre situations in which you know, wickoffs 454 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 9: in one room, the fore Minister of rachis in another room. 455 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 9: They're not doing themselves any favor, but I mean going 456 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 9: to full scale war because the Iranians tactical decisions diplomatically 457 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 9: are goofy. I'm not really sure as in the American interest. 458 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Hang over a second, because I want to talk about 459 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: the political calculation here domestically, because obviously from Georgia and people, 460 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: they're coming in and out that Georgia election board. We've 461 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: got it up streaming. It's right there. It was on 462 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: this right there on the screen. You can dip in 463 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: and out of that fascinating effort in Georgia as we 464 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: dig in there to make sure they don't give up 465 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: the don't give up the ballots and get to the 466 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: bottom of this entire mess that stolen twenty twenty election. Yes, 467 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: it's still living and breathing because the streets of Minneapolis 468 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: are still living in breeding. The twenty five million of 469 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: illegal alien invaders have not left the country. Natasha Owens 470 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: takes us out where their hit the boss back in 471 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: a moment. 472 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: Confuse your host, Stephen k Man. 473 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Okay, we've got Matt Boyle by phone. We lost the light. 474 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: Pretty poetic, right, We lost the light in Athens, but 475 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: we have Matt Boyle by phone. Matt, you are a 476 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: national political editor of a Breitbart News and have been 477 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: for a very long time. You're probably I think the 478 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: best reporter by far understanding maga uh where it looks 479 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: like potentially on a path to a kinetic conflict here 480 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: your domestic political calculations of that. 481 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 10: Sir, Well, look, I mean, if they if we are 482 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 10: on a path to a conflict, which I would agree 483 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 10: with your assessment, it seems like we are. Then again, 484 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 10: if it really is very quick over and on, I 485 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 10: think the president will be viewed as as a massive success. 486 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 10: But if it turns into a long, drag out thing, 487 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 10: right like, I mean they're talking about what three or 488 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 10: four weeks right now, Well that's what they were saying 489 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 10: at the beginning of Iraq, right like, you know, and 490 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 10: then a decade or so later we were still there, right, So, 491 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 10: Like the question is is can the president do something 492 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 10: quick and you know, not protracted and not long and 493 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 10: is the objective achieved very quickly in our American lives protected. 494 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 10: If that's the case, then you know he's gonna go 495 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 10: down as a you know, an incredible leader if he 496 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 10: gets us dragged into a long protracted war that destabilizes 497 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 10: the region. And what I think when we got cut 498 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 10: off there, I was just talking about when the connection 499 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 10: dropped for me, Uh, that we were just talking about 500 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 10: how Greek people. I've been talking to lots of different 501 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 10: Greek people, both inside and outside government, Uh, and they 502 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 10: are all talking about this and what whether or not 503 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 10: it may or may not destabilize the region. Everybody understands 504 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 10: that that you know, this this has worldwide consequences, UH, 505 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 10: that will ripple across Europe, that will go you know, 506 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 10: into Asia, that you know, over to the United States, 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 10: and so, you know, will this undercut the president's broader 508 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 10: agenda of rewriting the global economic order in a manner 509 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 10: that helps America first with the trade deals that he's 510 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 10: been doing around the world. Will it undercut the energy 511 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 10: agenda that he's achieving, or will it again just be 512 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 10: a quick or you know, in and out type of 513 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 10: a thing. I don't I don't know the answers to 514 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 10: those questions. I can't see the future, but I can't 515 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 10: tell you that those are the questions that American voters 516 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 10: are going to be asking. And there again, at the 517 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 10: end of the day, Republicans want to win the mid terms, 518 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 10: they need to deliver economically on the things that presidents 519 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 10: from campaigned on in twenty twenty four and in other 520 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 10: elections as well, the MAGA agenda. And I don't know 521 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 10: how war helps the economy so much. It really probably doesn't, 522 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 10: right like. And so this is you know, not necessarily 523 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 10: the uh, the thing that you know is going to 524 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 10: address the big buzzword of the year, if you will, 525 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 10: which is affordability, right like, which we'll probably have another 526 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 10: buzzword from the Democrats by November. But the point is 527 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 10: is that it's you know, I don't know if this 528 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 10: this does that, so we'll see. 529 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, we had we had Peter on right for 530 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: you to talking about their affordability agenda, particularly in housing. 531 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Med Bowll fantastic. Uh. The event with Kimberly was fantastic. 532 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 1: He's doing a great job. Look forward to hearing all 533 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: you're reporting from there. Where do people go to get 534 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: everything you're putting up at Breitbart and your social media, sir? 535 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 10: Here just spridebar dot com, at mboil one on ex 536 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 10: Twitter and at Real Matt Boil on True Social And 537 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 10: we have a lot of stuff coming from here, like, 538 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 10: we have a lot of stories that are going to 539 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 10: be coming out, So keep your eyes on all that stuff. 540 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 10: And I'm going to Italy on the way back, and 541 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 10: we have a lot of stuff coming from there too, 542 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 10: So you've got some State of the Union next week. 543 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: You've got some pretty big interviews. My understanding is my 544 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: sources in Rome, of which we're very well sourced, even 545 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: with Harnwell now in Australia, that you've got some pretty 546 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: big inno. I don't want to tip them off, but 547 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: you've got some pretty big interviews coming up in Italy. 548 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 10: In Italy, yeah, So I was originally just gonna go 549 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 10: there to go to the Olympics because a friend of 550 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 10: mine has tickets to the gold medal hockey game. And 551 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 10: then it turned into word got out across the political universe, 552 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 10: Matt Boils coming, so everybody wants to sit down with me. 553 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 10: So we're gonna do amazing stuff while we're there too. 554 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: So okay, great, we'll get you in from Italy. Thank you, 555 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: so appreciate you. 556 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: Yep, all right, thank you, Seve Kurt And. 557 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: The time we got a remaining and I want to 558 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: do something. You know, there has been this tension or 559 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: a discussion between the Israelis and the Americans and NTNYA, 560 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: who's basically and They've leaked this out to say, look, 561 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: if you're not prepared and not ready, we got it. 562 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: If the political calculation is not right, we got it. 563 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: But we're gonna go. You know, we got this thing 564 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: where we want it. We're gonna go, but we're gonna 565 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: need some defensive backup. We're gonna need those as class 566 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: sent back to the Eastern med We're neat dads and patriots. 567 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: You got to back us up. Because Tel Aviv and 568 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: people don't realize. President Trump on the Twelve Day War, 569 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: one of the reasons he stepped in to take it 570 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: down was that Tel Aviv was getting really a viscerated. 571 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Is there an option here that the Israelis can do 572 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: it on their own and we can provide enough minimum 573 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: defense that we don't get dragged in that the Persian 574 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: is just going to say, screw it. I'm going after Cutter, 575 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm going after the Saudi's, I'm going after every American base. 576 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go after the two battle groups. 577 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 9: Sir, I'm not sure. I mean number one. I think 578 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 9: to answer your question directly, that would potentially impair al 579 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 9: the negotiations between the United States and Iran, and the 580 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 9: President seems to like these talks going on, just to 581 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 9: have the talks. I mean, say what you will for 582 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 9: the Iranians, but the President is negotiating a number of 583 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 9: world conflicts right now and likes to be part of 584 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 9: the conversation. And supporting a military action led by Israel 585 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 9: on Iran isn't exactly the act of interested party. So 586 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 9: I think the Iranians will discontinue it. So and then additionally, 587 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 9: I'm not sure there's full trust from the Israelis actually 588 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 9: that if the Israelis led the attack number one, that 589 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 9: they could decapitate the regime. All the reportings since the 590 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 9: beginning of the administration is that they feel that they can't. 591 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 9: They couldn't bomb far Dow, and they can't even do 592 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 9: a lot of these special operations about US air support. 593 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 9: That's all the reporting, and that's all the military understanding 594 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 9: that I have on that front. And then secondarily, there 595 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 9: is the precedent. It's a small precedent comparatively of Yemen. 596 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 9: So the President got into a new war in Yemen 597 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 9: with the Huthis last spring, and then he left it. 598 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 9: He cut bait, he cut a separate deal with the 599 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 9: Houthi leadership, and he said, this is basically an Israeli problem. Now, 600 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 9: Yemen and the Huthis are much smaller potatoes than the Iranians, 601 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 9: but the Israelis must have to fear that contingency, and 602 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 9: they should fear it that if the war got really 603 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 9: nasty and the Irridians put up much more of a 604 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 9: fight this time, which I deeply suspect they will, that 605 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 9: Trump in the US will just get out and then 606 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 9: the Israelis will have a war that they can't finish. 607 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: So, Kurt, we've got on the screen down below, were 608 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: all day at the Georgia Election Board hearing the Warwriom. 609 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: Audience is very focused on the Steel of twenty twenty. 610 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: We've had these reports now that they're mocking and ridiculing 611 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: us in Minnesota about how we you know, the Marxists 612 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: are saying, we lost and we were treated. We're not 613 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: going to do any nasty deportations. They just had a 614 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: major jury nullification here in Dallas on a murder on 615 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: trendy Aragra murdering people in cold blood. And now we 616 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: see these pamphlets and courses on jury nullification. How they're 617 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: training up the left. The left is motivated, it's doing 618 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: voter registration, it's getting out the vote. How does this 619 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: play particularly? And I'm just saying what was in Axios 620 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: this morning that the administrat has not said, Hey, this 621 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: is not true, this detailed plan of an extended bombing campaign. 622 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: How do you think that plays domestically? Given that fact? 623 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: They had the meeting Air State at the Capitol Hill 624 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: Club and they talked about everything's about the economy. We 625 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: had Navarn here. It's all predicated and affordability, GDP growth, 626 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: wage growth, job growth, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 627 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: How does this fit into that calculation. 628 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 9: Well, it's hard to make the argument that you're focused 629 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 9: on the economy if you're starting new foreign wars. And 630 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 9: then additionally, this is a foreign war unlike some of 631 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 9: the other of the adventures that Trump has flirted with, 632 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 9: that actually could really spiral the economy. I mean, it 633 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 9: is not going to be hard for the Iranians to 634 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 9: close the straight up. He removes the very small channel 635 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 9: of water that a lot of global oil goes through. 636 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 9: If the Iranians close it, and all they have to 637 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 9: do to close it is start filing it, firing a 638 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 9: few missiles were a few bullets literally at ships, and 639 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 9: no one's going to put their sailors through it. No 640 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 9: one's going to ensure those kinds of ships except for 641 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 9: the black market pirates. Frankly, that would spike the price 642 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 9: of crude to let's say, eighty ninety dollars a barrel. 643 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 9: So you know, one point five x two x, Americans 644 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 9: aren't going to like that. Americans aren't going to understand 645 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 9: why we're doing this. Moreover, I think you know that 646 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 9: there's a sort of canard or lightmotif that you know, 647 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 9: basically Trump's support is durable. I agree with that. I 648 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 9: think if you call I think if we do this 649 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,959 Speaker 9: war with iron and we are calling people at Easter, say, 650 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 9: you know, early April, and they asked, do you support 651 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 9: the president? If you if you call the median listener 652 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 9: to war room and you ask them, do you support 653 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 9: the president? Do you support the administration, They're gonna say yes, right, 654 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 9: But there's a lot of ruin and a level of support. 655 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 9: There's such a thing as motivation, there's such a thing 656 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 9: as demotivation. And if you know, it's one thing to 657 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 9: prefer this administration over a democratic one, it's one thing 658 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 9: to prefer Donald Trump over most Republicans or any Republican. 659 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 9: I do, certainly, but it's another thing to not really 660 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 9: understand and or have faith in the course of action. 661 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,439 Speaker 9: That looks a lot like George W. Bush. That looks 662 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 9: a lot like George W. Bush's second term. And meanwhile, 663 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 9: the Democrats can dust off the two thousand and six 664 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 9: two thousand and seven playbook and run the anti war 665 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 9: movement thing. Yeah, it'll be very cynical, because the Democrats 666 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 9: continued a lot of these wars, they expanded a lot 667 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 9: of these wars. But it doesn't matter. Centitism wins all 668 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 9: the time in politics, and they can try to run it. 669 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 9: And then finally, one other domestic parallel that I think 670 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 9: should be flagged from history. Barack Obama came in as 671 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 9: an anti war president, and he saw his own ranks 672 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 9: demotivated by what they saw as an establishment sell out presidency, 673 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 9: and that led to the rise of Bernie Sanders. And 674 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 9: I think, you know it should not be discounted. 675 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 10: We are. 676 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: It is a lot. 677 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 9: It is very early in the political calendar, but there 678 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 9: could be a serious new populous right backlash to an 679 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 9: already populist right administration. 680 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, you know, in the Twelve Day War 681 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: and in Venezuela there was a lot of build up 682 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: and people said, hey, that you know, if President Trump 683 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: goes in and try to do regime change, bombing is 684 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. 685 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: He was. 686 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: He sent an expeditionary force that was highly targeted, right 687 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: you s he sent the B twos from from from Nebraska, 688 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: and he sent or you know, on the Midwest, and 689 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: you sent the Navy submarines with the Tomahawks. Boom overdone, 690 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: obliteration in uh Venezuela, the same thing. Take out the 691 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: top guy, make a deal with the other people, figure 692 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: it out. What about because President Trump is a guy 693 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: who looks at a range of alternatives. But if there's 694 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: a strike, it's a concentrated strike and not this three 695 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: or four week bombing campaign which they may have leaked, 696 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: as you said, just negotiating power. If it's intense, if 697 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: it's concentrated, and if it gets results, where do you 698 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: think that leaves us? 699 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 9: What are results that decapitation of the regime? Is that 700 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 9: even particularly preferable, because I mean the US will then 701 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 9: be responsible for the transition, and I think the US 702 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 9: will have to handle the transition the Israelis won't. 703 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: I want, I want to go back to that. Your 704 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: belief is is that if you go in and it's 705 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: more than just taking out ballistic missiles. Are some broader 706 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: contexts with these negotiations, But if it's taking out the 707 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Iranian military, the Revolutionary Guard, the Mullah's ayahtolas, you own it. 708 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: You gatbery worked up in the streets by destroying you 709 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: know best in destroying their currency. You got them all 710 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: worked up. If you take it now, you own it. Yeah. 711 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 9: Pottery bond rule, right, I mean Colin Powell was right 712 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 9: about this. I mean I think Colin Powell should have 713 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 9: resigned for the Bush administration rather than to advocate for war. 714 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 9: He didn't believe it, and I think that's on his 715 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 9: record forever. But Colin Powell's arguments internally cautioning against the 716 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 9: Iraq war based on the pottery bond rule. If you 717 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 9: break it, you buy it, Which is why the first 718 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 9: put Bush administration, George H. W. Bush, the father of 719 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 9: Say what you will, more responsible president than his son, 720 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 9: didn't go all the way to the Baghdad because they 721 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 9: knew it would look like this. And so I think, 722 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 9: you know, stipulating that we can even do this with 723 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 9: the military plan that we're considering that the we can't 724 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 9: even we can even decapitate the regime, what do you 725 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 9: replace it? And I mean there's there's all these sort 726 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 9: of goofy uh sort of proposals, uh, principally anchored around 727 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 9: the race of Palavii's person that sort of stopped. 728 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: Hey boy, the monarchist thing's a joke. You know, they 729 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: had one hundred thousand people meeting. 730 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 9: Is the leading candidate. And I seriously, I don't mean 731 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 9: to float this, and I'm not rooting for this, but 732 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 9: if he goes to Iran and he is murdered in 733 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 9: like ten days, when he says I'm here, that I'm 734 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 9: the king, what is the US plan? 735 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: Then the shaw the shaw? Okay, hangover second, we're gonna 736 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: drill down on this for a minute. On the other side, 737 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: the strategic President Trump, is he gonna roll the iron 738 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 1: dice of war find out protectionally in the next couple 739 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: of days. Burt Mills on the other. 740 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 9: Side, chill. 741 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: In the letter of twenty six, you would say. 742 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: Get here's your host, Stephen K. 743 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: Bas Okay, Tax Network USA. We're in that time of year. 744 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: Take the anxiety away, take the anks away. Call them 745 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: an eight hundred ninety five eight one thousand, tell them 746 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: you're a war room posse or from the worroom. You'll 747 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: get a free discovery call. Actually they'll walk through with 748 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: you what they think, your issue, is, your problem, what 749 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 1: you owe and that comes Normally it's to cost hundreds 750 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: even not thousands of dollars one eight hundred ninety five 751 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: eight one thousand. You get a free discovery call. Tax 752 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: Network USA. Do it today. The feedback we've gotten from 753 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: people is incredible, So go check it out. Just for 754 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: the warm posse. They've obviously got a bunch of clients 755 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: from our audience and they love it. So go check 756 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: it out. I remember they've solved it. I don't know 757 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: a billion dollars of tax issue, so nothing that your 758 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: tale of woe. They've heard before and they've solved before. 759 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: Eight hundred ninety five eight one thousand or TNUs either way, 760 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: just tell them the worm centsure. Kurt Mills, we got 761 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: a minute or two. First of all, I want to 762 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: here's what I want to immerse, the war impossing everything. 763 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: You're great. I want to give your site against it. 764 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: But if you had to recommend the guys who do 765 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: the best job you think of the counter argument, because 766 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: I want people to get I want everybody walk into 767 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: this thing with total eyes open, that you got all 768 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: the information possible, because if something happens here, even in negotiation, 769 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: this is going to have massive geopolitical impact and impact 770 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: politically here domestically. So what would be the who would 771 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: you recommend to give the the alternative to Kurt Merle 772 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: Mills's theory of the case. 773 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 9: Well, I think you in that case, we should flag 774 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 9: the people that are pretty relevant on this, and so 775 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 9: I would say the Foundation for Defensive Democracies, which is 776 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 9: big time renamed from basically a Israeli word or a 777 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 9: Hebrew word because it is basically not declared and Israeli 778 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 9: pr shop and they are are driving the push for war. 779 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 9: This is a group of people who were chock full, 780 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 9: frankly of never Trumper's, people who signed the never Trump 781 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 9: letters frankly, and people who did not support Trump's rise 782 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 9: in the Republican Party in twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, did 783 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 9: not support him for election against Philly Clinton, and we're not, 784 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 9: you know, particularly helpful in twenty twenty I would flag, 785 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 9: But they have been instrumental in writing a lot of 786 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 9: Trump's iron policy in term one, and they are I think, 787 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 9: although they're not as represented in this administration, they are 788 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 9: blowing the horn for war in terms. 789 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: So FDD we know those guys well, and you you 790 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: get TROTL turns. If you wanted to go somewhere to 791 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: get just information about the neo con case without maybe 792 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: the partisan push, where would you so FDD would be one? 793 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: Where would they? Is there any kind of you would 794 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: recommend middle of the road neocon that you could go 795 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: and just get information because I want I want to 796 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: we want to immerse people in both the military, tact 797 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: all of it. Where they go. 798 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 9: The Journal's hard reporting is fine, you know so, I mean, 799 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 9: I think the editorial board exists for the humor of 800 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 9: one man, Rupert Murdoch, and so they're very similar to 801 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 9: fd D and in their flavor. But W S J 802 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 9: is you know that the tone of it is is 803 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 9: more hawkish than my cup of Tea by W. W. 804 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 9: Wall Street Journal is hard reporting. Gonna run is excellent 805 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 9: and I recommend reading. It's highly plugged in and it's 806 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,720 Speaker 9: highly accurate. 807 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: Okay, where do they go for you. I want to 808 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: go to the newspaper, the magazine, and the in your 809 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: social media. 810 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 9: Sure, we are the American Conservative. We are at the 811 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 9: American Conservative dot com founded in two thousand and two 812 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 9: by Paty Canadan and others against the Iraq war. I 813 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 9: am at Kurt Mills at c R T M, I 814 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 9: L L S on on X and uh look, uh 815 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 9: you know we are on the right. Uh and uh 816 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 9: we oppose the Bush administration going to war in I rock. 817 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 9: And you know, if we have to, we'll pose this 818 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 9: administration going to or Iran. But I hope we'd have 819 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 9: to do it. 820 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: So Kurt Mills, thank you for joining us. Sir, Everybody go, 821 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: particularly the next couple of days gonna be quite intense. Trevor, 822 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: we got ninety seconds. I want people to comstock. I 823 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: want people to go to your site. Your reviews speak 824 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: for themselves, your new products sell out immediately. 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