1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: By our two Sean Hannity Show toll free. Your number 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: is eight hundred and nine to four one Sean if 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. There's 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: been so much news about the issue of what Joe 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: Biden was bragging about thinking he was going to run 6 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: his campaign on, which was biden Omics. But now even 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: you had the Washington Post commentator on Meet the Press 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: last weekend saying bad idea. You might want to get 9 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: rid of that term and get rid of it once 10 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: and for all. As we have been discussing, government has 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: such a big impact on our life. You know, for example, 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: local government has a big impact. Your school board will 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: have a big impact on what books your kids are 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: going to use to be educated with, whether or not 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: they're going woke, whether or not they they they want 16 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: to get into issues involving sexuality and inappropriate ages, transgender, 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: gender identity, crt ETCAT. It's a big impact on your 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: family's life. And then of course the ability of states 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: to tax you and the ability of states to regulate 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: you to death. And you know, this issue of mass 21 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: migration out of blue states into red states is very 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: very real. I mean, if you look, for example, the 23 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: current average of gasoline is three twenty five. It's lower 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: in Florida, but for eighty eight in California. 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: That's insane. 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, under Joe Biden, prices are up about a 27 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: buck fifty a gallon. Well, everything you buy, every store 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: you go to, that is a big deal. And if 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: you look at you know, the state of Florida, they 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: don't have a state income tax, but they have a 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: thirteen percent income tax out in California. And even if 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you're and they say, well, we're just taxing the rich, 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: No they're not. If you're a married couple and you're 34 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: making eighty four thousand dollars a year, you're still paying 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: six percent of your income to the state. That's on 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: top of whatever you pay nationally up to a top 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: marginal rate of just shy of forty percent. It's insane. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the impact of government spending. 39 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: It's what we're at thirty three point eight trillion dollars 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: in debt. How do you ever pay that back? 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: We need? These are crazy numbers. 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: The sales tax, for example, why why is it hiring 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: California seven point twenty five percent? Why is it lower 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: in Florida at six percent, you know, income and corporate taxes. 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: For example, why is it thirteen point three percent eight 46 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: and eight point eight percent in Florida. Florida didn't even 47 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: have a state income tax like California. You think, well, okay, 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: they have a state income tax, but they charge less elsewhere. 49 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: You know. 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: Uh, you look at all these numbers and I'll tell 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: you it's just it's it's killing people. When you have 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: two thirds of our country now sadly living paycheck to paycheck, 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: it is unbelievable. Let me play for you two cuts 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: here from last night. Then we'll check in with a 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: friend Steven Moore talking about how Newsome messed up California, 56 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: the first California governor to lose population, and then debating 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: their state taxes and the impact of that. 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: Let me play that what he is. 59 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: It's a simple question, how do you explain this phenomenon, governor? 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: What's going on? 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: When I was in the Navy, I got orders to 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: go to naval amphibious based Coronado in southern California, and 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: I was a lifeline Floridian. But I went there and 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: I was like, man, this is one of the most 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: beautiful places on Earth. And I think California has more 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: natural advantages than any state in the country. You almost 67 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: have to try to mess California up. Yeah, that's what 68 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom has done since he's been governor. He's the 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: first governor to ever lose population. They actually at one 70 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: point ran out of U hauls in the state of 71 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: California because so many people were leaving. Of course, he's 72 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: imposed restrictions on his own people while exempting himself from 73 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: those restrictions and going to the French laundry while his 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: people were suffering. He led the country in school closures, 75 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: locking kids out of school while he had his own 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: kids in private school. In person. Now, he's very good 77 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: at spending these these tails. He's good at being slick 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: and slippery. He'll tell a blizzard of lies to be 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: able to try to mask the failures. But the reality 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: is they have failed because of his leftist ideology. 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 5: California has lower taxes, lower than thirty two states for 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 5: working families in the middle class, significantly lower taxes. 83 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: That's right, taxes. 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: Do you support a six percent income tax people, I'm 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: going to. 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 5: For progressive taxes that advantage billionaires and millionaires over working 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: families in the working poor people in his state pay 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 5: more taxes in the low end than we tax people 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: on a high That's saying. 90 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 4: Seven dollars to the gallon and the gas help working people. 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: That doesn't help working people at all. How does paying 92 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: an eight percent sales tax help working people. That doesn't 93 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 4: help working people at all. They have the highest taxes 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: in the nation. People flee to be able to save 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 4: money to get out of California, and you have working 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 4: class people that move to these other states. They're dollars 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: go much further. But here's the thing. They want to 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: take this Biden nomics, and they want to double down 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: on this for the next four years. How many people 100 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: are able to afford groceries now compared to what you 101 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 4: were doing three or four years ago. I talked to people, 102 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: you know, I talked to a woman who had a 103 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: card full of groceries going in and they're ringing it 104 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 4: up and it got to be so expensive she has 105 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: to take a lot of the stuff out. 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: That didn't used to be the case. 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: People used to be able to work hard and get ahead. 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 4: That is not true under Joe Biden. 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: All right, joining us now, Steve Moore is with us, 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: author of the bestseller Trumpanomics, Inside the American First Plan 111 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: to revive our economy. 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: I want to give credit to Steve. 113 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: When this debate came up and became public, he confided 114 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: to me. And by the way, I hope I can 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: say this on the air. You have been doing a 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: deep dive into blue state red state? 117 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Is that okay to say? 118 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 6: Our laugher and I have been working on this for 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 6: twenty years, Sean, and it's the working title of the 121 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 6: buck we're only halfway through, is called the Blue State Meltdown. 122 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 6: And of course there's no blue state that is melting 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: down faster than California, except maybe New York. 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so, how do you explain a loss of 125 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: in the last In the last two years, we have 126 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: on record seven hundred and fifty thousand people leaving California 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: and nearly five hundred thousand going to Florida. And that 128 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: was my first question last night, right out of the box, 129 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: how do you explain this phenomenon? And look Avin, you 130 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: know he's very good at deflecting. He never really gave 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: an answer on that. He had a prepared first opening statement, 132 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: if you will, that he went to and I went 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: back to him, I said, but you still didn't answer 134 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the question. I was trying to be respectful, and we 135 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: still didn't get an answer in terms of the phenomenon. 136 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: He just wanted to attack Governor DeSantis. But you know, 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: how do you explain that if I'm the governor, I'm 138 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: the first governor to lose population in my state. I 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: think I'd be looking in the mirror and asking myself, 140 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: why is this happening? 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, after that debate last night, By the way, 142 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 6: he Shawn, you did an amazing job. That was a 143 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 6: great work in terms of being the real chaperone of 144 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 6: that debate. I was struck by the past. I mean 145 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: you had to ask Gevin Knew some questions three or 146 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 6: four times before he would answer. In some cases he 147 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 6: never answered those questions, including. 148 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I'd say, I said, wait a minute, can you just 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: answer the question. I'm going to get to your answer 150 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: and then do whatever he wanted right. 151 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 6: Well, you know what they're calling him today is the 152 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 6: artful dodger. He dots all your questions, but the toughest 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 6: one for him to answer is how can a place 154 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 6: like California and the Fantis handled this very well? I mean, 155 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 6: let's face it, you've lived in California. I A doresed 156 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 6: a most beautiful place on the planet. It's a little 157 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: slice of heaven. Beautiful beaches, beautiful mountains, beautiful women. You 158 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: know what's not the like about California and the progressive movement. 159 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 6: It is not just it's not just the governor knew 160 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 6: some It's been happening now for ten or fifteen years. 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: High taxes, high regulation, forced union rules. You know, just 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 6: as an example, the governor there wants to outlaw gas 163 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 6: cars over the next five or six years. I mean, 164 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 6: come on, the government's going to tell you what kind 165 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 6: of car you can buy. You know. The other thing 166 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 6: that's happening in California that's really sad is that the 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: middle class is being hollowed out there because you can't 168 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 6: afford to live there. You know, you were being charitable, 169 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 6: and you know, I looked at these gas prices. It's 170 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 6: about three h five today. It's almost five dollars a 171 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: gallon in many areas, So you're paying two bucks a gallon. 172 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 6: Think about this, two dollars a gallon more to fill 173 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 6: up your tank in California than Florida. Well, that's thirty 174 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 6: bucks a week. You know, it's a tax. It's a tax, 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 6: they tax. 176 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, and who's impact Who does that 177 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: impact the most? That impacts the poor, the middle class 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: the most. And they got to use that money to 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: get to work so they can put food on their 180 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: table and pay their rent. And guess what that thirty 181 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: bucks is a lot of money to people. 182 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 6: Well, look, this is why this debate was so important. 183 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 6: I'm so I'm just so pleased you sponsored this, because 184 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 6: the whole debate of America, really, the whole election in 185 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four, really is going to be about do 186 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 6: you want America to look more like New York and 187 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 6: California as you're thinking, or do you want it to 188 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 6: look like in like Bawd Berk, places like Texas and 189 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 6: Arizona and North Carolina and of course Florida that are 190 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 6: booming today. You know, if California stays on the same 191 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 6: trend that it's been on for the last five years, 192 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 6: think about this, Sean, it will lose three or four 193 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 6: congressional seats in the next census. That's how many people 194 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 6: are leaving California. That's never happened before in one hundred 195 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 6: and fifty years. 196 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: It's never happened. 197 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: And having lived there five years in the early part 198 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: of my life in the eighties, I remember at the 199 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: time my sister and I had a two bedroom that 200 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: we shared for a while, and it was like seven 201 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five bucks a month at the time. 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: It seemed like an enormous amount back then, but it 203 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: was what it was, and I'd go out, work hard 204 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: and pay the rent every month. But yeah, that is 205 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: a tax. Everything else is a tax, and except for 206 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: property taxes, and that's only because of Prop thirteen out 207 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: out in California, all the taxes are higher. And in 208 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: California over Florida, and they don't have a thirteen percent 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: you know, income tax. 210 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Thirteen percent. 211 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: I mean that's on top of let's say you pay 212 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: the forty percent radio thirty nine and a half percent. Okay, 213 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: just to add the numbers up, that's fifty three cents 214 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: out of every dollar just in income taxes if you 215 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: live in that state. 216 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 6: Well, we're gonna have to start calling it Taxifornia. I mean, 217 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 6: it's amazing California versus Florida. California, as you just mentioned, 218 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 6: has this thirteen and a half percent highest income tax 219 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 6: rate zero in Florida. The middle class tax rate, depending 220 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 6: on how you define the middle classes somewhere between seven 221 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 6: and nine per percent in California. It's zero in Florida. 222 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 6: And then, as you said, then they have a higher 223 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 6: gas tax, they have a higher corporate tax rate, they 224 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 6: have a higher capital gains tax, they have a higher tax. 225 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 6: I mean, what's the old joke, if it moves, tax it. 226 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 6: That seems to be the philosophy in California. And by 227 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: by the way, that state could be turned around. It's 228 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: hard to believe, isn't it. Tean that you know, fifty 229 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 6: years ago Ronald Reagan was the governor of California and 230 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: now it has turned so far to the left. This 231 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 6: is progressive governments, folks. How do you like it? Homeless 232 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 6: people on the streets, builthed no, you know, the fentanyl crisis, 233 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 6: border out of control, that's what they I mean. Desanta 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 6: said that Verdi, by the. 235 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Way, violent crime rates were so much higher. It was 236 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: twice the rate per one hundred thousand than the state 237 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: of Florida. I mean, that is impacting everyday life. 238 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 6: How is it last night that Gavin Newsom said they 239 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 6: have a higher murder rate? I mean, some of the statistics. 240 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 6: I don't know. He just pulled him out of his 241 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 6: hat because that's not true. I think you showed on 242 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 6: the screen that the time rate is double in California 243 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 6: what it is in Florida, and yet he totally just 244 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 6: denied it. 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: All right, quick break right back. 246 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: We'll continue more with Steve Moore on the other side 247 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: than your calls coming up on this Friday, eight hundred 248 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: and ninety four one, Sean, If you want to be 249 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: a part of the program, Hey, if you want a 250 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: killer extended Black Friday deal, our friends of Pure Talk 251 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: have it for you. 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One of the things that I 262 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to do is insert myself too much into 263 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: this debate. When when somebody wouldn't answer a very straight question, 264 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: I would go back in and say, Okay, can you 265 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: now answer the question. We heard the speech, now you 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: know answer. But look, I don't family. I have some 267 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: issues with the people around them, but I'll save that 268 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: for another day. The behind the scenes, there's a whole 269 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: book in that. But you know it's I'm just asking people, 270 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: what do you prefer? Why do the people of California 271 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: not want to explore the possibility that life can be 272 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: very different for them? 273 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 6: Well, it's a great question. I mean, you have you know, 274 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: California has been a state now where it really is 275 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 6: the very very rich who can afford to pay those 276 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: massive taxes because they're you know, the people of Silicon 277 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 6: Valley for example, you know, the billionaires, they can afford 278 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 6: to pay that high tax rate. And then at the 279 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 6: bottom of the ladder, you know, California is the most 280 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 6: generous welfare benefits. So it's people at very rich and 281 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 6: people very poor that you I think you said it 282 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 6: last night, or just Aanta said it. California has one 283 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 6: of the highest rates of income inequality. I thought the 284 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 6: left was against incoming equality because the only people who 285 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 6: can afford to live there are very rich. 286 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: In the by the way, if you're a married couple 287 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: and of two people and your income's eighty four thousand 288 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: dollars a year, you still pay six percent income tax. 289 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 6: Unbelievable. 290 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Well in California, that's a lot of money. 291 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: You know that that makes living there almost unaffordable for 292 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: that couple. 293 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: But you know, it is what it is. 294 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 7: You know. 295 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I think people, I think people are leaving based on 296 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: all the things we're talking about, and if they wanted 297 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to reverse the trend, they'd have to go backwards. 298 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: And I don't see that happening. 299 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 6: Not very likely. I mean, Newsome has been elected now 300 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 6: twice their way with overwhelming you know numbers, and I 301 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: don't get it. I don't get why people say, hey, 302 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: we need to change here. I mean, look look at 303 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: the beaches. The beaches have needles on them. You don't 304 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 6: see needles on the beaches in for You can't go 305 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: bareful down a lot of the beaches in California. 306 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: And walk the streets fair foot. And in a lot 307 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: of these cities it's Henry the poop map. I mean, 308 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: that cracked me up. 309 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 6: But that was good. 310 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: All right. 311 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: Well, Steve Moore, you're on TV tonight with us. By 312 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,479 Speaker 1: the way, we'll see you tonight. Thank you, my friend, 313 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: and thank you. We had a lot of long talk. 314 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Steve's Steve and Art Laugher writ in a great book. 315 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: When do you think that'll come out. 316 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 6: About how we're hoping to get it out in about 317 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 6: six months because we want to front center in that 318 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 6: presidential Oh perfect. That was amazing that Newsom said he 319 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 6: would not run for president. I don't, I don't. I 320 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 6: don't know if I believe him. 321 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: Well, he's now said it to me on multiple occasions. 322 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, I have to take people at their word 323 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: and then you know, trust but verify. Right anyway, Steve Moore, 324 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Thank you, sir. You're a good man. 325 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four one, Seawn our number. You 326 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. You are 327 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: listening to the best of the Sean Hannity Show, and 328 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: stay tuned more memorable moments, interesting guests, and a lot 329 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: of fun coming up next twenty five to the top 330 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: of the hour. Toll free on numbers eight hundred and 331 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: ninety four one Sean. If you want to be a 332 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: part of the program. Well, before we get to Curry Lake, 333 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: one of the big issues is the issue of the border, 334 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: and in this case, it came up a lot in 335 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: the debate that we had last night with California Governor 336 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom and Governor Ron De Santas of Florida and 337 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: are red versus blue state versus state debate and anyway, 338 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: let me play Gavin accusing Desantus of supporting amnesty for 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants, which is absurd, and you know, for lying 340 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: to migrants, and then I pressed them on the issue 341 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: of border security during this debate. 342 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: Listen to those two, and I'll. 343 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 5: Be honest with you, I think there's probably one person 344 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: I wouldn't listen to on this topic more than the 345 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: guy that I'm standing next to, Ron De Santis. He 346 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: absolutely lacks any credibility on the issue of immigration. When 347 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: he was in congress's supported amnesty. When he's in Congress, 348 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 5: you supported John Bayner's bill to fact when you were 349 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 5: in Congress, you supported you supported Obama's efforts to advance 350 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 5: comprehensive reform. The last guy you want to talk to 351 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: on the immigration Your immigration policy can best be described 352 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 5: as a governor from the state of Florida going into 353 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 5: another state, the state of Texas, line to migrants, promising 354 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 5: them jobs and housing, sending them to an island Martha's vineyard, 355 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: and then sending him to a parking lot in Sacramento, California. 356 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 5: I met with those migrants that you lied to under 357 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 5: false pretense. That kind of gamesmanship using human beings as ponds, 358 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 5: I think is disqualifying. So again, a guy who stands here, 359 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: who's been out on the Republican debate stage saying well, 360 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: he's going to be tough, he's going to shoot people 361 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 5: with backpacks, and that he has a strategy to potentially 362 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 5: even invade our second largest trading partner, Mexico, that has 363 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: a record of supporting amnesty and supporting reforms under the 364 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 5: Obama administration, is the last guy. So we spent standing 365 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: on stage talking about the issue of immigration reform tonight. 366 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: Now there's two things that are interesting about this California 367 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: and Matha's Vineyard. I thought they offered sanctuary status for 368 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. That is their stated policy as of January one. 369 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom signing in the law anybody that is illegally 370 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: in this country They're gonna get free healthcare medical just 371 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: for being in the state of California. Just walk in 372 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: and there you go. You get free healthcare. Martha's Vineyard. Oh, 373 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: they were so compassionate. They threw them off that island 374 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: within twenty four hours. And we went and we found 375 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: that there were plenty of rooms in Martha's Vineyard available 376 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: at the time. Let me just play one more quick 377 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: cut here. When I press Governor Knewsom over the border 378 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: security issue during this debate last night. 379 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: With all of these millions a million of people coming 380 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: into this country unvetted, the question was and remains, is 381 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: this a clear and present danger from the countries I 382 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 3: put up on the screen that's is that a clear 383 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: and present danger to the America? 384 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: Answered? What do you do in the intact Why. 385 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: The President of the United States put a fourteen billion 386 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: dollar package in front of Congress they can act on today, 387 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 5: and what we haven't done anything that years this Congress? 388 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 5: What do you really want a single piece and support 389 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: a border ortization. I support the fourteen billion dollar package 390 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: presidents put forward that includes twenty three hundred border agents 391 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 5: and customers efficient by the way, also includes eight hundred 392 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 5: and fifty million dollars in new technology for border security. 393 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: You hear nothing from Ronda Santis. You hear nothing shot 394 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: and respectfully, you hear nothing from the Republican Party. They 395 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 5: play politics almost president put for the plan up to address. 396 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: Does it worry Let me ask the question another way. 397 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: Does it worry you that are top geopolitical foes and 398 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: the number one state sponsor of terror Iran, China, Russia, 399 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: the Afghana, Stan, Syria that there at our southern border. 400 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: You're a border state governor, Does that concern you at all? 401 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: This way? 402 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 5: Why else would I have put? The answer is yes, 403 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: Why else would I have the National Guard? Why would I 404 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: just increase it by fifty percent on the largest port 405 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 5: in the western hemisphere in my state? 406 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: Now, why does any deport him to me? Is the question? 407 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: If we look at the numbers of Iranians, six hundred 408 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: and fifty nine that we know of, six three hundred 409 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: and eighty six people from Afghanistan, that we know of, 410 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty eight Syrians, that we know of, 411 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: three thousand, one hundred and fifty three Egyptians that we 412 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: know of the home of the Muslim brotherhood. In the 413 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: case of Iran, the number one state sponsor of terror 414 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: twenty two thousand from Russia. Our number one geopolitical foe, 415 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: the communist Chinese twenty two thousand, one hundred and eighty 416 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: seven that we know of. 417 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: Now, what are the odds that we. 418 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: Have terror cells in this country because of Joe Biden's 419 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: white O borders. I'd say one hundred percent. I hope 420 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: them pray that I'm wrong. I hope them pray that 421 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: nothing ever happens. But I don't think everybody from some 422 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: of these countries that hate us come here with the 423 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: best intention anyway. Carrie Lake is with us. She's running 424 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: for Senate in the great state of Arizona, also a 425 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: border state. First a reaction to. 426 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 7: All that we don't have a border anymore. Thanks for 427 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 7: having me on Sean. We don't have a border. I mean, 428 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 7: the border is a joke. They call it porous. It's 429 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 7: beyond porus, it's wide open. I just saw video today 430 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 7: a journalist was down on the border and where President 431 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 7: Trump's wall is still standing. There were a bunch of 432 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 7: cartel members with heavy equipment taking it down, literally taking 433 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 7: down portions of the border wall. And nobody's there from 434 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 7: our side. Our military isn't there our border patrol. They're 435 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 7: too busy processing people. And literally they were laughing at 436 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 7: the reporter, just laughing, going, yeah, we're in charge of 437 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 7: the border. An invasion on the border is an active war, 438 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 7: and our government is failing to do anything about it. 439 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 7: People of this state can't believe what's happening. I took 440 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 7: a group of mothers down to the border because in 441 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 7: our mom's coalition for our Senate run, we talk oftentimes 442 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 7: about the struggles that families are having. And these moms 443 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 7: who are running their families, helping to keep the kids 444 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 7: in school and pack their lunch and check their homework, 445 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 7: are wondering and protect their families, are wondering why our 446 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 7: government's not protecting our border. And so we went down 447 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 7: and watched as they processed hundreds of people, put them 448 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 7: on buses, sent them to airports to fly off. They 449 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 7: get a free airline ticket, they get a free phone, 450 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 7: they get free food, free clothes, a free help checkup, 451 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 7: and then they end up in a hotel in a 452 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: city near you with free housing. Meanwhile, families are struggling. 453 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 7: This can't go on much longer. I even had the 454 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 7: Democrat mayor of Nougalls, Arizona. He's supporting my border plan 455 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 7: because he said, the Democrats have created this problem and 456 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 7: it's going to take our city down with it, because 457 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 7: they're losing funding down there in no Gallas. This is 458 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 7: the city where all of these people coming across the 459 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 7: illegal thousands and thousands and thousands every week they go 460 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 7: there to get processed and put on a bus to 461 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 7: leave and go to another city or an airport. And 462 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 7: that funding is going to end, and that means these 463 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 7: people are going to be just roaming around this small 464 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 7: town of twenty two thousand, five hundred. And these aren't 465 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 7: people who even speak Spanish or English. They speak all 466 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 7: kinds of different languages. They're from Africa, they're from Asia, 467 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,959 Speaker 7: they're from China. And the city, the small town of Nogalas, 468 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 7: is very concerned about what's going to happen when all 469 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 7: of a sudden, hundreds of people each day are just 470 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 7: spilling out into that tiny community. Something. 471 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: You know, So let's talk about your race, obviously is 472 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: going to be really crucial Arizona. You have to say, 473 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: has now I've kind of been been a purple state, 474 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: if that's fair, and you're going up against Kristen Cinema. 475 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: What is her position on the border, because doesn't she 476 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: vote with Joe Biden over ninety five percent of the time. 477 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting to ask. You know, she became 478 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 7: an independent about a year ago, and since she became 479 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 7: an independent, she's voted with Joe Biden one hundred percent 480 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 7: of the time. She's voted with Joe Biden more often 481 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 7: than even Chuck Schumer or Bernie Sanders. So she's trying 482 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 7: to fool the people of Arizona into thinking she's independent. 483 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 7: I'm actually literally looking at her voting record on the border. 484 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 7: She voted against President Trump's plans to build the wall 485 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 7: on numerous occasions. She supports voting rights to illegal immigrants. 486 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 7: So all these people you see pouring across the border, 487 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 7: she's forgiving them voting rights. She's voted that way in 488 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 7: the past, and nothing says she wouldn't vote that way 489 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 7: in the future. She doesn't believe a wall is effective. Well, 490 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 7: if the wall's not effective, then Joe Biden wouldn't have 491 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 7: had to send his people down there to weld it 492 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 7: open in near Lukeville, Arizona. And she's also voted to 493 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 7: cut salaries for immigration and customs enforcement. If we start 494 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 7: cutting the salaries of these people border patrol ice, they're 495 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 7: already demoralized because of Joe Biden. We're going to start 496 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 7: seeing people just walk off the job. And we need to, actually, 497 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 7: I believe, give them bonuses and help them do the 498 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 7: job that they want to do, which is protecting our 499 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 7: border and not just processing people to come over and 500 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 7: invade our country. 501 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, MAJORCIS was down by the border yesterday 502 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: meeting with the border patrol agents that were on horseback 503 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: that were accused of whipping illegal immigrants, which they were 504 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: found not to be guilty of, but of course there 505 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: was a rush to judgment at the time. It wouldn't 506 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: even apologize to them, Carry Lake. I mean, how do 507 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: you not apologize when you were so wrong and there 508 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: were so many people that were explaining to you what 509 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: it was, the maneuvers they were making, and it was 510 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: not to whip any illegal immigrant at all. But yet 511 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: they went with that narrative, They raced the judgment. They 512 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: demonize these guys and they don't even get an apology. 513 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 7: I'm not surprised. I mean, in my opinion, Mayworks should 514 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 7: be impeached and maybe even tried for allowing this to happen, 515 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 7: allowing this to happen to our country. You know, the 516 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 7: people coming here illegally, I told you what, they're getting 517 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 7: treated better than many Americans. They get a free cell phone, 518 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 7: they get a free airline ticket, they go to the 519 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 7: city they want, they get jobs, they get you know, 520 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 7: if we keep voting Democrats, and they're going to have 521 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 7: voting rights, and so we've got to put our foot 522 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 7: down and start electing people who are going to take 523 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 7: the job. Seriously. You know, I'm a big fan of 524 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 7: President Trump. I worked as a journalist here in Arizona 525 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 7: for almost thirty years, twenty seven years. 526 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: By the way, his policies works, stay in Mexico, work, 527 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: building a wall, worked, yep. 528 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 7: And during the time, you know, we've seen a lot 529 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 7: of politicians come and go and talk about the border. 530 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 7: Is the first guy that did something about it and 531 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 7: secured the border. And it's really simple. We just need 532 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 7: to go back to those policies and for starters, let's 533 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 7: build the wall. I mean, so many politicians and a 534 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 7: few of them with ours behind their named sadly, but 535 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 7: mainly the Democrats were pushing against President Trump building that 536 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 7: wall and it was really, you know, less than ten 537 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 7: billion dollars needed to do the job, and they were 538 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 7: fighting him on that. And then we watched as they're 539 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 7: sending nearly two hundred billion over to Ukraine, but they 540 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 7: don't want to protect our own border. We got to 541 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 7: get our priorities straight. We won't have a country much 542 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 7: longer if we don't protect the border. And I've got 543 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 7: a ten point plan on my website Kerrielake dot com 544 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 7: and it will secure our border starting on day one. 545 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: I quick break more with Senate Kennedy Republican Senate Kennedy 546 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: kr Lake from the Great State of Arizona on the 547 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: other side. Then we will get to your calls and 548 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: Joe Kancho will analyze Gavin Newsom and Ron De Santis 549 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: at the top of the hour. As we continue, continue 550 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: now with Republican Senate candidate from Arizona, Carrie Lakers with US. 551 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: A lot of Democrats are now even beginning to speak out, 552 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: including the Senator from Arizona, Mark Kelly, called a chaos, 553 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: a complete mess. The Mayor of New York, Eric Adams said, 554 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: quote it will destroy New York City. The Joe Biden 555 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: illegal immigration issue the governor of Illinois Pritzk are saying 556 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: it created an untenable situation. The Democratic governor of Massachusetts 557 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: at a federal crisis of inaction. I think Democrats are 558 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: now realizing this is their big issue if they don't 559 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: get their act together. But I see no movement at 560 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: all in it to make a change in policy. The 561 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: only way that's going to happen is if we get 562 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: a new president. 563 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and well we know the tricks they play. They're 564 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 7: saying that now, surprise, surprise, were within a year of 565 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 7: the election, and that's when they come around and go, 566 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: oh boy, we're in trouble that people don't like our policies. 567 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 7: But they've never done anything to prove that once they 568 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 7: get re elected or elected that they'll do anything about it. 569 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 7: And so we need to vote these people out. You know, 570 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 7: as a mom, one of the statistics that has given 571 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 7: me it just keeps me up at night. I cringe 572 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 7: to think of what's happened is that they've lost track 573 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 7: about one hundred thousand children who've come across illegally. You know, 574 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 7: President Trump was really good. He separated them out from 575 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 7: the adults they came over with and did DNA testing 576 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 7: to make sure that they truly were related, because he 577 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 7: didn't want these children sex trafficked or you know who knows, 578 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 7: child labor, whatever, whatever nightmare they end up in and 579 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 7: under Joe Biden's administration in may Orchis and the rubber 580 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 7: stamp from Kirston Cinema and you know, Reuben Diego here 581 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 7: in Arizona, one hundred thousand kids are missing. Where are they? 582 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 7: What kind of hell are they living it? This is 583 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 7: just a complete chaos is a great word for it. 584 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 7: But it was, in my opinion, planned chaos because in 585 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 7: the first hour of taking office, Joe Biden peeled back 586 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 7: an incredibly effective border policy and invited the world to 587 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 7: pour in. 588 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: I said, they should come, they should come. I've played 589 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: the cut a million times. He said that in the 590 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: Democratic debate. Well, carry Lake. By the way, your website, 591 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: you said, is Carylake dot com. People want to see 592 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: your plan, and I would just urge people to take 593 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: a look at it. And people must understand this Senate 594 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: race is going to be critical if the Republicans have 595 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: any chance of taking back the Senate. Anyway, Carrie Lake, 596 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk to you a lot between now 597 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: and then. Thank you so much for being with us. 598 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 7: Thanks Sean. This is a seat we can pick up 599 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 7: and we need everyone's support. Thank you so much.