1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back to The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. This is Buck here at NYC Clay 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: out in Nashville, Tennessee, and we are going to be 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: joined by our friend Glenn Beck in the third hour 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: of the program. Glenn, of course has his huge nationally 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: syndicated morning show on Premiere Networks. And it's also the 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: guy who started my career in media, found me right 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: when I came out of the CIA. But much more importantly, 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk to him about how he was 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: part of an operation to bring thousands of Christians out 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan who were in mortal peril as the Taliban 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: advance took over the entire country. Glenn taking action, not 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: just words, action to save lives. We want to have 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: him on to talk about that program and also the 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: work that remains to be done. We got one hundred Americans, 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: we have others who have been left behind in Afghanistan 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: that are supposed to get out as well. Right now, 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Lloyd Austin, the Secretary of Defense is addressing the nation 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: from the Pentagon. We'll bring you updates from that as 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: as they are unfolding here in real time, because I 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: think it's likely we've heard most of what he's We 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: had Biden speaking last night, but we'll have our team 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: here pulling the transcript and we'll bring you soundbites of 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: that in order to give you a sense of what's 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: going on there. There's a trend. There's something trending right 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: now on social media. You may not have seen if 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: you're not as active on social media as Clay and 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: I are. Christian Taliban is what is trending right now. 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: That's the phrase, and it's a reference too, has nothing 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: to do with Afghanistan. Really, it's a reference to what 32 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: is Texas Bill SB eight. This is a fetal heartbeat 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: bill in the state of Texas that the big news 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: today is it goes into effect. The Supreme Court has 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: decided not to put a stay on the bill. Now 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Play and I are going to break down and Clay 37 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: is going to bring in his legal expertise to do 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: this in a moment. Some of the specifics of the bill, 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: because it is the mechanisms of it are fascinating. I 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: just wanted to give you some of the broad strokes 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: and the right to life is a central battle, I believe, 42 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: for the moral compass of this country and for conservatism overall. 43 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: And we are at a point now with a Supreme 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Court that is pretty well calling it solidly sixty three 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: conservative leading might be too much, but certainly, for the 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: first time in my lifetime, you could see an overturning 47 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: of Roe v. Wade and perhaps Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: or combination thereof, and it could happen as soon as 49 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: this June. There's already a Mississippi law that has been 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: challenged that's gone up to the Supreme Court. I believe 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: it's a ban on abortions after fifteen weeks, but I 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: should check on that because I'm not as up on 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: the Mississippi bill. In the Texas bill, there is a 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: they call it. You can see in the Planned Parenthood releases. 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: They say it's a they'll refer to it as a 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: cardiac activity bill, which is just a euphemistic way of 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: saying tiny heart, tiny heartbeat bill, so you're not allowed 58 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: to well, actually, what it does, because they have to 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: be very specific about this, is it deputizes individual citizens, 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: not the state of Texas, to bring suit against not 61 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: the woman who has an abortion after fetal heartbeat has 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: been detected, but the provider of the abortion sewing in 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: damages for up to ten thousand dollars play. This involves 64 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot of moving pieces where they're essentially going 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: to make it more challenging for providers to give abortions 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: after the heartbeat is detected. Has to do with legal fees, 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: has to do with standing a whole bunch of things, 68 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: break some of it down for us. Yeah, so this 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: is let me start here. When you are in law 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: school and you study Roe v. Way, regardless of what 71 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: your preconceived notions are, as it pertains to abortion strictly 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: from a legal perspective, Roe v. Wade is one of 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: the messiest, least logically consistent opinions that has ever been 74 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: written by the Supreme Courts. Bad law, but yeah, bad law. 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: It's just there's a great legal aphorism buck It says, 76 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: tough cases make bad law. There is almost no way 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: to read Roe v. Wade and think to yourself, Okay, 78 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: I can understand what's going on here. The Supreme Court 79 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: justices decided that they wanted abortion to be legal, and 80 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: then they did whatever it took to massage to move 81 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: to blow up all these different aspects of the existing 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: constitution to make Roe v. Wade into law. So what 83 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: has been going on ever since that law? I believe 84 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. It's been a while since I took 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: the ball exam. I think I'm right. Rev. Wade came 86 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: out in nineteen seventy three. What has happened ever since 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade is many people out there, both the 88 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: right the left, reasonable people have looked at Roe v. 89 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: Wade and said, this is a broken ruling. Is it 90 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: possible to make sense of this? And I don't claim 91 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: to know what's going to happen, Buck, but legally you 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: are right in theory. There are six Supreme Court justices 93 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: who are willing to adjust and or change and or 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: overturn Roe v. Wade. I think what's going to happen 95 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: is the Supreme Court is eventually and I don't know 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: if it's gonna be this year, next year, five years 97 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: from now, because with the Roberts Court it is very 98 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: political and oftentimes he doesn't want to step into a 99 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: political mess and they try to have really narrow rulings. 100 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I think what's likely to happen is abortion is going 101 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: to be sent back to the states, and state legislatures, 102 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: like what's going on in Texas right now, are going 103 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: to be able to make their own decisions as it 104 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: pertains to abortion law. That's what I think is going 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: to happen, and that is in some ways legally going 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: to create even more of a mess, right because you're 107 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: going to have a law in New York that could 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: be drastically different than New Hampshire. And certainly the law 109 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: in New York is gonna be a lot different than Alabama, 110 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: California is going to be a lot different than South Carolina, 111 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: all these different hodgepodges of states. But that's kind of 112 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: what we have right now. Well, we have that with 113 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: gun laws. I mean, you have that with a lot 114 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: of everything. You have it with lotteries, you have it 115 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: with assisted suicide, which is legal in some places not 116 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: legal in others. And so it's going to be a 117 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: big mess. But I do think that they are going 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: to uphold some of these laws like Texas, and then 119 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: there's gonna be all these different challenges, but the mess 120 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: as place as I mean, this would be a huge 121 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: advance forward for the right to life movement. I think 122 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: it would be an earth shattering decision for the left, 123 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: because abortion is essentially the sacrament the right rite better 124 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: way of saying it, of the left, they believe it 125 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't be absolute. There can be no restrictions whatsoever. There 126 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: is no right, and this is a fabricated right that 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: they treat the way they do the right to kill 128 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a preborn baby in the womb. And so this would 129 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: strike down what is a we agree is bad federal 130 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: law and the way that and so at that level 131 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: of least, you'd have states like Texas and probably Mississippi, 132 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: and you know, other red states would have some pretty 133 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: clay by the way, I don't even know how many 134 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: states would have total bands. A lot of them would 135 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: have what they have in Europe, by the way, which 136 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: is time restrictions as in fetal heartbeat or beyond. That's 137 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: likely to go into effect in a lot of places. 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: What I found fascinating about the SPA, the Texas version 139 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: of the Texas Bill that is now going into effect, 140 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: is it allows people to bring suit against the providers. 141 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't allow the abortion provider to get legal feed 142 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: damages even if they win from the individual bringing the suit. 143 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: And beyond that, it essentially creates a situation where women 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: are not being women are not being sued, women are 145 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: not being imprisoned. It goes after providers who given abortion 146 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: after a fetal heartbeat is detected and allows monetary damages. 147 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: So it essentially opens up the floodgates of lawsuits and 148 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: incentivizes people who are pro life to financially incentivizes. I've 149 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: never mind, of course, the moral incentive to bring lawsuits 150 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: against providers, and I mean planned parenthood is on the 151 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: is just you know, on the warpath. Today you've got 152 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: you a Christian Taliban trending. The shrill nature with which 153 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the pro abortion left reacts to anything like this is 154 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: honestly just deeply unsettling at a human level. They act 155 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: like this would be the worst thing to have happened 156 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: in this country, certainly since the abolition of slavery. The 157 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: left believes that a pro life surge in this country 158 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: would be absolutely horrific. I think there's no doubt. I 159 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: mean that is that is the drumbeat that they used 160 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: to mobilize anything associated with the Supreme Court. And we 161 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, the Amy Coney 162 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: Barrett hearings. The reason why those hearings were so wildly, 163 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: so wildly, especially Brett Kavanaugh, so wildly and awfully divisive 164 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: and dishonest is abortion, right. I mean, that's the essence 165 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: of the entirety of the anger about Kavanaugh and Amy 166 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Coney Barrett. Now, by the way, that's an extent point 167 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: is that the ferocity over that was all about abortion, actually, 168 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: and that's why people thought they were they were being 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: honorable by lying about kavanaughsart interrupt, No, no, no, you're right. 170 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: But and it's also interesting the reason why Amy Coney 171 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: Barrett was not as wildly outlandishly negative was because of 172 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: the timing, because Democrats were afraid of turning off suburban 173 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: women by going aggressively after Amy Coney Barrett, a mother, 174 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I believe, of six children, and basically, if you talk 175 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: to anybody at Notre Dame, one of the most beloved 176 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: people on the Notre Dame campus, both as a teacher 177 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: and as a human being, and they recognize that she 178 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: was a tough target in a way that Brett Cavanaugh 179 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: wasn't because he's a white guy, and Democrats can go 180 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: balls to the wall after a white guy over abortion 181 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: in the way they can't with a woman over abortion right. 182 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: But so that is the essence of why the battle 183 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: was so intense as it pertained there, even though Amy 184 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Coney Barrett was actually changing the overall makeup of the 185 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: court right because she was replacing Ruth get Aider Ginsburg, 186 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: whereas Kavanaugh was just stepping in for Justice Kennedy. And 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: so this is the this is the fault line. And 188 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: I'm curious for people out there who are just kind 189 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: of reading the tea leaves and trying to assess where 190 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: we're going, what is John Roberts going to do? Right, 191 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: Because he has been an incrementalist, he has been an institutionalist. 192 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: He's been someone who has tried not to rock the 193 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: boat in an aggressive fashion for the first time in 194 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: fifty years, though Clay, we could row is in jeopardy 195 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: as a legal decision right now for the first time 196 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: in real legal jeopardy, or at least maybe you could 197 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: say since planned parenthood be casey, it's been. That's why 198 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: I say, that's why I'm pointing to John Roberts, because 199 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: as an institutionalist, a lot of times they don't want 200 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: to actually directly overturn a case right, they try to 201 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: avoid decide a case narrowly, which is why I think 202 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: they're going to try to finesse it in a way 203 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: that allows states to have more power as opposed to 204 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: overturning federally Row vlad and some sort of aggressive fashion. 205 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: They're going to allow incrementalism from the states, much like 206 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: which is really the legal strategy is, Hey, see how 207 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: far we can go in terms of restricting abortion on 208 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: a state by state basis. We'll find out where the 209 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: Supreme Court draws that long And to be clear, that 210 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: was the Scalia. That was Justice Scalia's lying on this. 211 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: I heard him making the case myself when I was 212 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: in college that it wasn't that the Supreme Court would 213 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: say there's now a federal ban on abortion. It would 214 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: be that it would go back to the states or 215 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: there would be state determination. I think a lot of 216 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: people don't understand that from a legal perspective. Buck they think, oh, 217 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: we're going to totally overturn Roe v. Wade. What's more likely, 218 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: I believe is the incrementalism there would be We're going 219 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: to give the power back to the states to determine 220 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: what is and what is not legal. As it pertains 221 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: to abortion inside of state borders. I'm certainly hoping Roe's 222 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna get struck down. We'll see that'll happen in June. 223 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: If it does happen, but we'll have to wait a 224 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: while for it. And the meantime, we're gonna bring you 225 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: up to speed on the latest from the Pentagon. Here, 226 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: General Mark Millie Joan, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, 227 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: addressing a nation right now, saying the evacuation of people 228 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: will continue even though we don't have military presence there. 229 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: Plan I'll bring up to speed on that. Plus, Glenn 230 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: beck An, our three two o five Eastern, will be 231 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,239 Speaker 1: with us to talk about his operation to get Christians 232 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan who were in peril. 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That's thirty to one. Buck. 263 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: All you gotta do pick aside Georgia or Clemson. You 264 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: now know that Clemson is in South Carolina. How do 265 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: you do that five dollars bet turns into one hundred 266 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars. All you gotta do is pick the winner. 267 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: You go to FanDuel dot com slash clay, that is 268 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: FanDuel dot com slash Clay. We have a Secretary of 269 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: Defense who was actually still trying to massage the argument 270 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Buck that we had an incredible success that was going 271 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: on in Afghanistan, and what you're seeing really is an 272 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: opportunity or an attempt. Maybe we should say to shift 273 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the conversation from the failure on the ground to try 274 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: and praise the troops overall, which, by the way, nobody 275 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: is disputing that the troops behaved in an heroic fashion. 276 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: We've been talking about that on this show for a 277 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: long time. Buck that it's not the boots on the ground, 278 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: it's the suits in the White House that caused this 279 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: massive issue. And I think it's worth pointing out, as 280 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: we said earlier, that this is what's going on with 281 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: this shift. Yeah. Look, it's a moment in time here 282 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: where you wonder, how can we pretend there's any real 283 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: accountability claim. I mean, we've got General Austin right now 284 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: addressing the country. You've got General Millie also in the 285 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: same press conference. Neither of them have resigned. I mean, 286 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: like what Donald Rumsfeld just by way of comparison, offered 287 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: to resign right away, wrote out the letter and offered 288 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: to resign to George W. Bush as soon as the 289 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Abu Grave scandal broke, and Donald Rumsfeld wasn't there saying, 290 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, take photos and abuse these attainees. But it 291 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: was on his watch, and that's how he was supposed 292 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,239 Speaker 1: to go. Yeah. What I think is wild is nobody's 293 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: even arguing that. Let's listen right now, let's play cut 294 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: thirty five here Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin as he 295 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: tries to argue how heroic this ending in Afghanistan was. Now, 296 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: we have just concluded the largest air evacuation of civilians 297 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: in American history. It was heroic. It was historic, and 298 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: I hope that all Americans will unite to thank our 299 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: service members for their courage and their compassion. They were 300 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: operating in an immensely dangerous and dynamic environment, but our 301 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: troops were tireless, fearless and selfless. Our commanders never flinched, 302 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: and our allies and partners were extraordinary. The United States 303 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: evacuated some six thousand American citizens and a total of 304 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: more than one hundred and twenty four thousand civilians. And 305 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: we did it all in the midst of a pandemic 306 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: and in the face of grave and growing threats. I 307 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: am incredibly proud of those who made it happen, and 308 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: they made it happen with grit and skill in humanity. 309 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Analyze that at just a moment, the celebration of the evacuation, 310 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: that's now the talking point. We'll come back to it 311 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: in a moment. Here. You know, this audience is saving 312 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: more money on cell phone service thanks to Pure Talk 313 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: That it's the company name of our sponsor here that 314 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: makes it happen for you. Because if you're with AT 315 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: and T verised in your Team Mobile, you're paying too 316 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: much for your cell service. 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Abdul he's now 334 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: the head guy, that was the one I was dealing with, 335 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: and he understood exactly what I was saying. I said, 336 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: they'll be held to pay if you touch any American 337 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: soldiers and even or any Americans, and even Biden said 338 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: the other day, I think probably mistakenly from his standpoint, 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: because they don't usually do this, but he came out 340 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: and said, well, no American soldier was killed since we, 341 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: since the previous administration came to that agreement, which is true. 342 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: We had many other conditions and they were strong conditions, 343 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: and they didn't meet some of them, and we bombed 344 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: the hell out of them, and they would have met 345 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: them all and we would have been out. We would 346 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: have had all of our people out. We would have 347 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: had all of our equipment. I said, every nail, I 348 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: want every nail, every screw, every tank, every plane. And 349 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: those planes are in very good work in order. You 350 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: look at apatches. They cost a fortune, tens of millions 351 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: of dollars, and they were flying them yesterday. They were 352 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: having a good time flying our Apache helicopters. And they 353 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: have whether it's seventy three, eighty three or eighty five 354 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars worth of equipment, thousands of trucks, hundreds of tanks, 355 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: and other kinds of military gear. And it's just disgraceful 356 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: what happened, and it's I think it's the greatest embarrassment 357 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: in the history of our country. That was President Trump. 358 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: Yesterday on our show. We just wanted to share that 359 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: with you again. We thought his analysis was so prescient 360 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 1: and it's so important to hear. How would it have 361 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: been different? Because right now, the storyline, and welcome back 362 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: to the Clay Travis and Buck Saxon Show for all 363 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: of you. The storyline is that this would have been 364 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the case no matter who was president. Is what the 365 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 1: Democrats are saying. I mean, they're they're actually saying this. 366 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not interpreting it. They're saying, day, you know, 367 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: this was as good as it could have been. Actually 368 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: it was a good thing. How it went down overall, 369 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: This is the Democrat line. It's crazy, but we predicted 370 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: it because it's obvious this is where they were going 371 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: to go. Accountability. Clay, is there going to be an 372 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: under the circumstances that we have here? Lindsey Graham was 373 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: on Hannity's show last night on Fox and he was 374 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: asked the question, is this an impeachable offense? Yeah? I 375 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: think so. I think it's terill election of duty. He 376 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 1: knew that we were going to leave Americans behind and 377 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: I think he lied to us, because there's no way 378 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: I don't believe this ten percent crap. I think there 379 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: are hundreds of note a thousands of Americans left behind, 380 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of Afghans. So the Biden administration is 381 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: lying to us about the threats we face from Afghanistan, 382 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: about what they knew and when they knew it, and 383 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: they're trying to blame everybody but themselves. If you want 384 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: to blame somebody, President Biden, look in the mirror. Twenty 385 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: four kids out of California. I'm surprised this isn't a 386 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: bigger story in terms of the media attention are still 387 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: stuck there. Yesterday we played a clip from Clarissa Ward 388 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: at CNN buck pointing out that a family of four 389 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: from Houston had been unable to get out. We started 390 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: off the show with Joe Biden bragging that ninety percent 391 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: of the people had been removed from Afghanistan who were 392 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: American citizens, despite the fact that just two weeks ago 393 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: he told George Stephanopolis that everybody was going to get out. Now. 394 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: I think Lindsey Graham, from the perspective of what should 395 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: happen if the standard for impeachment, which, by the way, 396 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: I don't agree with. But if the standard for impeachment 397 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: was a phone call that Donald Trump made with the 398 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Ukrainian president, and if the standard for impeachment was a riot, 399 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: a issue on however you want to classify it on 400 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: January sixth intervention. By the way, in the Russia collusion investigation, 401 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: that never should have happened in the first place. That 402 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: was all based on fabrications and lies. But they tried 403 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: to take down a presidency with sorry, then that is 404 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: the standard, right, And that's unfortunate because I do think 405 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: in general all of this is a side show. Because 406 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: the idea that you're going to get sixty seven senators 407 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: who are going to vote for a president to be 408 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: removed is a laughing stock, right, and we haven't seen it. 409 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: We didn't have it with Bill Clinton, we didn't have 410 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: it with Donald Trump. If there were an impeachment with 411 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the consistency of the standard would at least 412 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: be being applied, but the result would be the same. 413 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: We would spend months arguing and then nothing would change. 414 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Is it an amazing that on the issue of a resignation, 415 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, because because you're right there's Look, Biden's not 416 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: going to be impeach and removed from office. We all 417 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: know it. I mean, the guy, the guy could pull 418 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: off his head, we find out that he's actually a 419 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: member of an alien species of lizards or something, and 420 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: you'd have MSNBC saying, you know, look, he's doing a 421 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: great job. If they wouldn't kiss, right, it wouldn't matter. 422 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: There's nothing he could do that would make the Democrats 423 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: want him to want him to be gone, but or 424 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: that they would take him, you know, take him out 425 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: of office voluntarily. But as for the resignation, a point, 426 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: because we have these generals, the Chamber of the Joint 427 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs of Staff, Milly, the Secretary of Defense, former four 428 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: star General Lloyd Austin. I remember actually briefing him in 429 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: Iraq alog. Yeah, we talked about that. You remember him. 430 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: You don't think he remember? No? No, no, no, I 431 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: was just another I was just another guy wearing a 432 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: T shirt with with some sunglasses on. Yes, in like, hello, sir, 433 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: my name is beep Um you know, can'ts can't say 434 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: what my name is. He might know you, now, No, 435 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: well they can know me. Now that's true. Yeah, I'm true. 436 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: But Anyway, I'm just kidding about this, and they can't. 437 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Of course they could know my name an American citizen. 438 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: They were cleared for everything, but it was supposed to 439 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: be a spy joke. Anyway, The point being um clay resignations, 440 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: what do you resign for in this country? What do 441 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: you forced to resign for? Not sending senior citizens into 442 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: nursing homes to die by the thousands, That's not why 443 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Governor Cuomo resigned, but sexually inappropriate comments and some alleged 444 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: touching of subordinates. Uh, that's that's what you resigned for. 445 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: What do you resigned for in the military speaking out 446 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: against the chain command as we know, not presiding over 447 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: a massive blunder. And this just goes to you know 448 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: what in our culture people will be able to get 449 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: away with and what they can what bureaucratically is defensible, 450 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: and what is not in the way things go. Right now, 451 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: it feels like there's no accountability because a lot of 452 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: people don't really you know, they don't care about the 453 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: big things. They care about the hashtags. They care about 454 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: what's going to get them love on social media from 455 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: their friends. Yeah, and there's no chance that Biden is 456 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: going to be forced out of office over this. And 457 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: by the way, we pulled this last week and seventy 458 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: four percent of our audience would rather have Joe Biden 459 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: in office right now than they would Kamala Harris. So 460 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: even if that were going to occur, But I think 461 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: the dishonesty of the media is being put to the 462 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: forefront here because there's no demand for consequences. There's no 463 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: head on a platter that is being forced to be 464 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: brought to bear and take the blame for what happened 465 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, and that's not even being discussed in any 466 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of significant fashion. Instead, you got Joe Biden just 467 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: being able to lie. Same thing going on with the 468 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: Defense Secretary Austin, with Millie, with everybody else. They're trying 469 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: to focus on this and argue that it's a success, 470 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: which is a blatant lie, right, But also that goes 471 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: to the resignations point, because how could you be arguing 472 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: as they are that this is a big success and 473 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: people are resigning over it. So it just turns into 474 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: I always just to say the CIA, the Intel community 475 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: was a giant self licking ice cream cone, right, always 476 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: took care of itself, always first and foremost interested in 477 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: its own prerogatives. What it's doing, it's you know, it's 478 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: pay and it's perks. And what you see here is 479 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: that the narrative requires for this White House no resignations, 480 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: because how could you resign over a catastrophic success, clay, 481 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: because I guess that's what this is. It's funny, that's 482 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: a great phrase, because Biden tried to in his address 483 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: yesterday simultaneously say he had no options because of the 484 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: deal that Donald Trump had made and so his hands 485 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: were tied, and then also claim success for the plan. 486 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: Did you notice that, like he was arguing two different 487 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: things simultaneously. If the plans so bad and you had 488 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: no other options, why should you get to claim the 489 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: success for it? And by the way, we all know 490 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: because he did a hundred executive orders or whatever else. 491 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: The moment Biden walked into the White House, he started 492 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: reversing many of the decisions that had been made by 493 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. He had plenty of time to change this 494 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: outcome if he didn't want to follow it. Instead, he 495 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: wants to be able to blame Trump while simultaneously taking 496 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: credit for the success. Biden wants to have his ice 497 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: cream and eat it too. We know this in general 498 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: and certainly on this issue. On this issue, he is 499 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: telling us that if we didn't draw down in this way, 500 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: if we didn't have the exit clay, we faced a 501 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: Taliban military onslaught that would have forced US troops to 502 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: go into the front lines and be fighting again, just 503 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: like our marines did in Halma, just like our soldiers 504 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: and airmen have been doing an Afghanistan for twenty years, 505 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: on and off, depending on the time period. But he 506 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: says that, But then he also says that it's Trump's 507 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,479 Speaker 1: fault for putting us on this. So which is it 508 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: was the Taliban iss sent in to the point where 509 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: you couldn't stay without an escalation into a major war, 510 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: or is it that Joe Biden made. It's all self contradictory. 511 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: But they're hoping to obscure things enough that the takeaway 512 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: will be Okay, the war's over, so nothing matters about 513 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: how it happened, and then Joe Biden's poll numbers start 514 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: to go up again. That's what they Biden is even 515 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: smart enough or functionally cognizant enough to recognize all of 516 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: those conflicts in the meantime, but kids back in school thankfully. Now, 517 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: let's focus on what they're being taught. When it comes 518 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: to teaching our nation's history. Who decides what's taught? Who 519 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: decides how to teach our nation's truthful history? Will our 520 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: friends at Hillsdale College argue for teaching the truth? They've 521 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: made the Hillsdale seventeen seventy six curriculum downloadable for free 522 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: at K twelve dot Hillsdale dot eedu not only available 523 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: for teachers, but also to citizens like you and me 524 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: to share with other concerned Americans. This is a complete 525 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: K through twelve history and Civics curriculum designed to give 526 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: educators guidance, not mandates. Buckets. Fantastic, and it allows students 527 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: to learn the tragedies and triumphs of American history as 528 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: it really happened, Clay. Only through a complete and honest 529 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: study of our history can students fully understand the world 530 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: in which they live. Our children deserve to be taught 531 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: the truth. You do that with the use of a 532 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: sound curriculum that was created by teachers, not bureaucrats, and 533 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: upholds the dignity of each individual. America's future depends on 534 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: an honest, candid look at our history. Download Hillsdale seventeen 535 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: seventy six curriculum for free today at K twelve dot 536 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Hillsdale dot edu. That's K twelve dot Hillsdale dot edu. 537 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back in play, Travis buck Sexton, appreciate all of 538 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. We have had a lot 539 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: of you who want to weigh in. Going to be 540 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: joined by Glenn Beck in the next segment, the man 541 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: who gave buck Sexton his beginning, his start in media. 542 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: Should be a fun conversations. Glenn has done a ton 543 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: of phenomenal things to try to help Christians all over Afghanistan, 544 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: raised tens of millions of dollars in very short order. 545 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: We'll talk with him about that battle. A lot of 546 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: you want to weigh in still on Afghanistan, many different subjects. 547 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: Let's try to run through as many of these as 548 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: we can. I'll start with Natalie and Scottsdale, Arizona, great 549 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: part of the country. What's up, Natalie, Hey, thanks. I 550 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: just want to say they say all American service members 551 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: have left Afghanistan. No, they have not. Those canines out 552 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: there are American service members. They have served and are 553 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: treated as such. Don't uh soldiers and marines, all our 554 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: military come home with enough trauma from what they've had 555 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: to deal with them to leave their fellow Canine Service 556 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: UH members alone in Afghanistan with no way to fend 557 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: for themselves. I mean, this is sick. This is not right, 558 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: and we need to get those soldiers back. Those are 559 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: American service members we've left behind, and we need to 560 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: get them map What do we think is going to 561 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: happen if the Taliban gets their hands on them, especially 562 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: knowing they are American soldier dogs. No, this is not okay, 563 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: it's a big story. We've seen all of the photos. UH. 564 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: This is one of the big talking points that everybody has. 565 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I think it's jips emblematic of how quickly we have 566 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: left behind in Afghanistan, so many different aspects of of 567 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: of our military apparel and and and and the dogs 568 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: are part to think of all the flights that they 569 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: told us about that had at eight people, that could 570 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: have held two hundred, you know, I mean, look, this 571 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: is about saving these animals. I mean, look, I feel 572 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: Natalie's Natalie's outrage here. Yeah, I absolutely love dogs. You know, 573 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: Americans in general, we look, we love our dogs. I 574 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: would to say, we love our family dogs, we love 575 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: our service member dogs who kept a lot of our 576 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: loved ones alive. I mean, there's no replacement for a 577 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: bomb sniffing dog or a dog that is out on 578 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: tactical operations during you know, night raids in places like 579 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: a Rock and Afghanistan. So, Natalie, we're we're gonna raise 580 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: the alarm about this as much as we can. We 581 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: got Glenn. I'm gonna ask Glenn to be like Glenn, 582 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: you got thousands of people out. I know you're probably 583 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna get more out. Can we get some dogs out 584 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: along with them. I'm sure they're operations underway to do 585 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: just that. Yeah. Look, and to me, it's a representative 586 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: example among many of how much of a disaster our 587 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: departure was and how poorly organized it was. Edward in 588 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: Wisconsin wants to weigh in, I think on the same issue. 589 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: What you got for its Edward, Oh my god, thank you. 590 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: M I could hug Natalie because I am calling for 591 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: that specific reason in regard to the dogs, and before 592 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: I do, I do not collect dogs above people. Don't 593 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: get me wrong, but think of those there's hundreds of 594 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: our soldiers right now. Think of what they're going through 595 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: knowing that a member of their family, meaning these dogs 596 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: are what they're going through. They either I don't know 597 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: what's true. I don't know whether they left them in 598 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: cages or I don't know if they let them loose 599 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: out in the city. Doesn't matter those dogs. First of all, 600 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: that culture they think of dogs is dirty and so 601 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: I just am very concerned about that. And these people 602 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: are sociopaths. They're sick what they've done in this whole thing. Edward, 603 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: appreciate the call. We feel the passion of the outrage 604 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: that you got, my friend, And it's this is why 605 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: when they're telling us now, is they are that they 606 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: should be feeling, meaning the Bide administrations should feel really 607 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: really good about this. I mean, there should be there 608 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: should be solemn apology from Biden and his top national 609 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: security team and advisors. And instead they actually claiming they 610 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: want a high five and and you know, in a 611 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: gold medal and a look at how great we are. 612 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's just too much. It's gaslighting in 613 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: a way. That is, it is enraging for people that 614 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: see what's really happening. But it's where we are. Tiffany 615 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: in Texas wants to switch it up with something else. Tiffany, 616 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: what do you got, Yes, they're that's the same sentiment 617 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: as the earlier callers by Guitar Military. I don't let 618 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: y'all know that in Bear County, specifically in the school districts, 619 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: there's executing an extreme government overreach by violating constitutional rights. 620 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: In particular, at Coal Elementary, a little girl that's suffering 621 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: from medical aparthteit as in special need student is being 622 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: segregated and put into a classroom by herself because she's 623 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: not able to wear a mask. And it's absolutely appalling. 624 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: The parents aren't getting any help, and they if you 625 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: could place happy to appreciate it. Look, this is infuriating 626 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: as a parent, especially for special needs kids who obviously 627 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: struggle so much more when it comes to wearing a mask. 628 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: They're teachers who have to wear masks. They can't interact 629 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: in the same way. Let every single parent and I 630 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: think we need to keep beating this drum buck because 631 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: there's a difference between say what Governor Wolf in Pennsylvania 632 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: is doing. The Democrats are demanding that all kids wear masks. 633 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: The Republicans are saying, as a parent, you get to 634 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: make a choice. This is a big difference. It's about 635 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: freedom and parents know their children, particularly if they're special 636 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: needs kids, like the caller just said, Tiffany down in 637 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: San Antonio, and it fires me up as a parent. 638 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I've obviously been fighting about this for months now, for year, 639 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: a year and a half now. Basically, Buck and we 640 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: need an organized opposition in a really significant way. We're 641 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: coming back in here in a few minutes with our 642 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: friend nashally syndicated radio host, founder of the Blaze dot com, 643 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck. He's gonna tell us about how he got 644 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: people out and maybe he's gonna keep getting people out 645 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: of Afghanistan. Talk to him about what that was like 646 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: and what anybody could do to help out there. Plus, 647 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: we've got more on the CDC telling you not to 648 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: travel this weekend. That's right CC Direct for you. She 649 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: wants to make sure you have no fun. No pumpkin 650 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: spice flavored seltzer for you is what's sounding dream gotta 651 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: talk about. We'll talk about that too. That's all the 652 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: next hour. You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton 653 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: on the EIB Network.