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Speaker 3: Because that's unrealistic. Everybody normally speaks for their own personal

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Speaker 3: falling this trap where it's easier to attack smaller pieces

431
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: than it is to attack the system. So it's easier

432
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: to direct this anger, this frustration, this sadness that you

433
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: have about things going on and attack coaches than it

434
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: is to say, oh, white people, y'all fucking up. Because

435
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 3: for a lot of people, they've given up and they've

436
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: decided that that's not something that they can attack. But

437
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: attacking him is not gonna cost system to change as

438
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: a totality, and it.

439
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: And and I want to be clear, I feel this

440
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 2: way about pretty much most black people because because because

441
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: this isn't a I'm a black man, he's a black man.

442
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: Let me protect this man. I said this about Insecure

443
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: with Easa Ray, where I was like, Okay, at this point,

444
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: people are coming for her work more because she's the

445
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: person right now more so than the work is bad.

446
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: It's right, it's a madter, like you're not representing all

447
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: black people correctly. And it's like her job was never

448
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 2: to do that, So why like, at this point, why

449
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: are y'all coming for her work under the guise of

450
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have safe sex unless your characters on

451
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: TV have Safe Sex. But no other show that I

452
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: watch even touches this topic. And I don't have that problem,

453
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't have that critique of that show. And

454
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: it's like, Oh, she's the person right now in a

455
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 2: lot of people's eyes, so her work has to be

456
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: beyond beyond critique, Like it's beyond Like I think it's

457
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: critique to a level where it's almost ridiculous, you know, right,

458
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: And I think that's kind of some of the stuff

459
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: that's happening with whoever the intellectual of the moment is.

460
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know so much that black people

461
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: ascribe this much to public intellectuals in this way. Like

462
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: I think in academic circles they might, but just in

463
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: your everyday circle, I don't. I don't run into niggas

464
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: quoting Coats or West or Bell Hooks or you know,

465
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: or any of these people like people like in the

466
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: general public, I don't think these storied halls full of

467
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: white people listening to black people talk about race is

468
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: just not a thing that we in general ascribe much

469
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: value to, you know. Like I feel like I walked

470
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: out and start talking to random black dudes that I

471
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: know and be like, have you read this Kanazi Coast books,

472
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 2: the Vassengury, don't say no. And I would even venture

473
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: to guess even the people that are really critical of him,

474
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: a lot of them aren't reading his work because I've

475
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: seen them make critiques of stuff that I've read that

476
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: I know is the opposite of what they're saying. So

477
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, y'all just don't read. Y'all are more

478
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: upset than he's the guy. And I don't want to

479
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: be dismissive of people, but I don't know the proofs

480
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: in the putting of these critiques, like, oh, you're just

481
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: kind of upset. He's the dude right now, and there's

482
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: always more black people would be the solution to me.

483
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: That's always if.

484
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: There was you know, if there were panels, if there

485
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 2: was public discourse, if there was kind of open you know,

486
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 2: we've lost that gender that that that like seventies and

487
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: sixties era of turn on PBS and because you know

488
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: there's only five panels then, but turn on PBS and

489
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: James Baldwin is going to be debating somebody, and you

490
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: know there's gonna be a panel that has Malcolm X

491
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: on it, and you know, Fanny Lou Hammer on it,

492
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: and like, we don't have that really anymore, and cable

493
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: news doesn't lend itself to that. It's more about arguing.

494
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: So there really isn't a space for that that we

495
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: could see who the voices of quote unquote black academia

496
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: are right now. It's kind of like whatever white people like,

497
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: and like Bill Maher likes Michael Eric Dison and Cornell West.

498
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: So that's why we know them in a large part.

499
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: For those that don't really read their work, you just

500
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: know them because they're always on TV talking. You know,

501
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: cable news shows. They'll pick a couple people, Hey, I

502
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: know Jelani Cobb. He comes on Melissa Errs Perry Show

503
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: or some like. That's kind of how you get to

504
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: know some of these people. But in general, I don't

505
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of discourse in the way

506
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: that there used to be. So I would like to

507
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: see Coats kind of talk about his disape his where

508
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: he and other people disagree. I like to see that

509
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 2: played out in the public form, But it won't be

510
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 2: via Cornell West, cause it's just in bad faith from

511
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: the beginning, and I don't think Cornell West read his

512
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: work that's for your comments on hope. I agree with

513
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: black people will never top as system that was designed

514
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: without a mind, without us in mind in the first place. However,

515
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean we should just lay down and take it.

516
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: How shad black excellent, hashtag black girl magic has black

517
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: boy joy and the likes are perfect examples of us

518
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: celebrating us without the need for a desire validation. For

519
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: the majority, our excellence in general, bad ass is not

520
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: contingent upon the validation of a system or matrix that

521
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 2: does not and will never genuinely see it for us. Yeah,

522
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: I agree. Like I was telling somebody that the other day.

523
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: Whenever I was like, yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't call

524
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: what I feel pessimism. I say that these are this

525
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: is reality. You can't make me be optimistic, you can't

526
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: make me agree with you. It's fine. This is not

527
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: me saying don't resist, don't protest, don't have hope. Yeah,

528
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: don't have hope. Don't That's what.

529
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: People hear, and that's what make them respond as an attack.

530
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: And it's not an attack. I'm able to believe this

531
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: and still exist in this world. And like I said,

532
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: if even if we're sissifist and racism is that ball

533
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: that you're that that boulder you're pushing to the top

534
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: of the mountains, and it's doomed to keep falling down

535
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: and changing and morphing and pushing us back down, and

536
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: we push it back up and and there's gonna be

537
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, change is not a straight line. It's you know,

538
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: it's cyclical, it's it's uh, you know, it's pushing pull

539
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: you know. I I can feel all that and still

540
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: be supportive of resistance. And I don't understand how people

541
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: conflate my attitude with either age is not knowing or

542
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: you're focused on the wrong things, Like, nah, I'm not

543
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: you know, there is you know, you hope, we hope

544
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: for the you hope for the best and everything. And

545
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: I would love to be proven wrong, you know, love.

546
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: I would love to sit around and be like, I

547
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: guess I had it wrong, But I don't know. White

548
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: white supremacy keeps finding ways to come back to the

549
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: same point over and over again, and America is not

550
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: really ready to face up to it. Nope, you know,

551
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: we're still doing puff pieces about white voters who voted

552
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: for Trump, yes and blaming it on working class and

553
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: blaming it on not making enough money. Black people don't

554
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: make enough money. Black people are working class. Latino people

555
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: don't make enough money. Latino people are working class. Why

556
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: didn't they vote for Trump?

557
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: Right?

558
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: Why weren't they? Why didn't they turn races like it

559
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: only like it's we As long as we talk around

560
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room of the general attraction, white

561
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: people had a bigotry, we are going to be in

562
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: trouble in this country. And nothing since Trump's election has

563
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: made me feel like we're moving towards something better. Oh no,

564
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: Brooklyn shoo Bas says, I did not have anything intelligent

565
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: to add to this conversation, but a forty five year

566
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: old woman, As a forty five year old woman, I'm

567
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: so glad to hear that about a beef where I

568
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: know all the players. My now ex husband is a

569
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: huge Tanazi coach fan, and was also a big Derek

570
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: Bell fan when they were we were in college. This

571
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: gave me all the intellectual feels, These vocabulationios motherfuckers. Yeah,

572
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: oh yeah, And I meant to say, yeah, Cornell West

573
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: will go on Bill Martin Shaw and Bill and because

574
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: he was his big critique was coach is an intersectionalen.

575
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: You'll go on Bill Martins Shaw and let that dude

576
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: be transphobic and islamophobic right in your motherfucking face and

577
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: laugh at them jokes. So I don't know what to

578
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: tell you, and y'all ain't come right back next month,

579
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: So I don't you know, like if they're like, if

580
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 2: this is a legitimate intellectual beef that you have with

581
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: coach it, then I don't know how you don't have

582
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: this beef with other people. It's just seen to come

583
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: down to there's one dude, over and over and over.

584
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: It's weird. JD says. I limited my Twitter for my

585
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: sanity sake and went back after reading that article the

586
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: other morning just to see the that machismo again. Perusing

587
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: just reminded me how folks refuse to read and use

588
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: Google but still want to engage in debates with the

589
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: least bit of information possible. That's the truth. I really

590
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: wish I had that much confidence and or fuck it

591
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: in my system to be so boldly loud and wrong.

592
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: I too them all for critiques and push back and

593
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: good su stand up debates, but this shit is ridiculous

594
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: and disheartening. Nicole Hannah Jones mentions it or especially frustrating.

595
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: I agree with y'all and many others this was petty

596
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: and lazy and possibly employed for attention. Y'all continue to

597
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: be careful on these internet streets. Folks are relentless and

598
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: the dumbest way possible. Yep, gotta be careful with these motherfuckers. Man,

599
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: I ring you off of social media just dealing with

600
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: people that don't even want to be educated. Nope, Like,

601
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: there's so many times I just want to link somebody

602
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: to the podcast, Like, can you just listen to this

603
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: episode because I already explained this and the things you're

604
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: saying trying to take me out of context are fucked up.

605
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: But honestly, taking people out of context is kind of

606
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: rewarded on social media, yes, especially Twitter, so you can

607
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: never tell people are doing it on purpose or not.

608
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: And I, like I said, everybody different, I don't have

609
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: the time or the energy to occup with stupid people.

610
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: I just don't waste my time. And it's not the

611
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: fact that they're quote unquote stupid, it just the fact

612
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: that you're coming at me uneducate, you don't want to learn,

613
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: you're not trying to expand your mind or anything like that.

614
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Why we having a conversation, Like, in my mind, there's

615
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: nothing for us to talk about. I don't mind me

616
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: and nuanced. I don't mind going back and forth. I

617
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: don't mind being intelligent with you. But when you come

618
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: in automatically I'm ten and you accused and take stuff

619
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: at the countries that, okay, you just went act the food,

620
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: I ain't got time for that.

621
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think what bothers me is as a person

622
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: who really tries hard to pick my words and stay

623
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: focused in my speech and be I speak to understand

624
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: and to be understood, Like I listen to understand and

625
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: I speak to be understood. There's no bigger nightmare than

626
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: people purposely taking you out of context to make points

627
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: that you either already addressed or were not speaking to.

628
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: There's just nothing worse than that, you know, Like I

629
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: honestly take Tanazi coach at his word when he's like,

630
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: there's certain topics I don't talk about because I don't

631
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: know enough about him yet, and I'm like, cool, hope

632
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: he continues to learn, because you know, he'll put his

633
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: reading list out there and I'm like, oh, so he

634
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: is reading about these things in hope, and I've seen

635
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: over the years it'll start to show in his work,

636
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: slowly at first. But that's kind of how shit works,

637
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, like this thing where we're all parroting other people.

638
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: Like when I read Angela Davis's book this year, one

639
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: of the things that I ended up learning more about

640
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: was the conflicts between Palestine and Israel. I didn't know

641
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: shit about that. I'm thirty nine years old. I still didn't.

642
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: I still don't feel comfortable as on the show. I

643
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: still don't feel comfortable enough talking about it on our

644
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: show because I don't know enough, you know. But she

645
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: was able to make some comparisons and pouring out some

646
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: similarities between Palestine and the condition of black folks in America.

647
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: That made me be able to see the parallels in

648
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: a way that I was not able to before. You

649
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 2: know that that's the ship that's in up. That's kind

650
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: of missing is in this process is that people expect

651
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: you almost to pair it what other people are saying,

652
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: even if you don't know. And I think it speaks

653
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: to a lot of what people are doing on social media.

654
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: They don't know, but they pair it the people they hear,

655
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: Like I think it's kind of callous when people bring

656
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: up stuff like drone bombings or Palestine or something, but

657
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: they're only doing it to win a Twitter fight.

658
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: And derail the conversation.

659
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, Oh, you don't really care because

660
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: you knew that there was nothing I could say or

661
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: you could say that could even approach any level of

662
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: actual depth on this conversation. But you threw it out

663
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: like the big joker because that's you know. And it's like,

664
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: if that's how you're going to if that's what all

665
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: you're on here to do is to win debates and

666
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: the row that at people, then I guess that's your thing.

667
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: But in general, you're not speaking to it with any substance.

668
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't even have to be relevant to what's at hand.

669
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like boom, I won, you know,

670
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: And there's a callousness in it that. But I think

671
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people do that. They pair it what

672
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: other people have said, and that's kind of just how

673
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: they go as opposed to really sitting down learning about

674
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: it and trying to spread information to sort of engage people.

675
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: There's a difference between engagement and trying to shut people down,

676
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: and so I think That's kind of interesting because I

677
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 2: think in general, more people, if they were being honest,

678
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: would admit, like, yo, I don't always know and I'm

679
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: always learning, So I can't speak to what I don't

680
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: know and what I definitely don't want to do. Because see,

681
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: I give you a good example, Tim and Minda and

682
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: how she feels about trans women. Do is everybody happy

683
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: that she's speaking on that? Do y'all feel like she's

684
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: coming from a place of knowledge, y'all feel like she's

685
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: listening to people? Or do you feel like I wish

686
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: she hadn't said that. I really liked her. She should

687
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: have got way more information before she starts speaking on that,

688
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: because we will hold those words against her forever. I

689
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck if she develops on it or not.

690
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: The vast majority of people will forever go. I remember,

691
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: she said these very hurtful things to a lot of

692
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: people in the trans community, and she's trash and she's

693
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: canceled and forever, da da da dada. Not that anyone

694
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: gets canceled, but you know what I'm saying, Like, those

695
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: receipts will forever be there. It doesn't even matter if

696
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: she develops or not. I think that's one of the

697
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: reasons people stay in their lanes. But it's like, by

698
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 2: being black and speaking about black shit, you must occupy

699
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: all lanes. And I think that's not true.

700
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's not true. Just like nobody expects

701
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: all white people to know everything, why would you expect

702
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: all brown people to know everything if it's not your lane.

703
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: It's quote unquote not your lane. And it's okay to

704
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 3: be like, I don't know, and motherfuckers will get mad

705
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 3: because you say I don't know, when, motherfucker you don't

706
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: know everything either, Why hold you up to a standard

707
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: that you wouldn't even hold yourself up to, right, you know?

708
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: And we, and especially in a climate where we hyper

709
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: critique and pedalize people when they don't when they when

710
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: they don't know something and they speak up and get

711
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: it wrong, we don't really go back and say, oh,

712
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: well they didn't know the correct term was this, and

713
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: now they have changed and it's okay, guys. No, we

714
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: go remember when so and so called so and so

715
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 2: at this and like, well they you know, they said

716
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: they didn't know about it and they didn't mean to.

717
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: We don't give a fuck. You should have known before

718
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: you open your mouth the end, like, so, I don't know,

719
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: I feel like people are I don't know. People kind

720
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: of want it both ways.

721
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: Yes they do, and that's not realistic. And I think

722
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: the thing that frustrates me, and I will continue to

723
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 3: say this, don't hold people up to a standard that

724
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: you wouldn't hold yourself up to. If you know that,

725
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be willing to do it, or you wouldn't

726
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: be willing to say it or shit like that. Don't

727
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: hold somebody else up on the pedal stool that you

728
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't even hold your own standards for your own personal,

729
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: fucking everyday life too. I think that's the most dumbest

730
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: shit ever. I don't do that.

731
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I remember when that Megan Marko thing

732
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: was happening, and so I was like, well, how come

733
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: you didn't say this about you know, the black women

734
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: and how they feel in this way? I say, because

735
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: I'm not a black woman and I can't really speak

736
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: to I'm never gonna tell black women to shut up

737
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: about some shit that I don't experience. It's just how

738
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: it is, Like I don't feel comfortable being like, y'all

739
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing this while y'all sell it like that's

740
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: not my experience. I don't really I've never lived in

741
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: your body in your life to really tell you what's

742
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: good and bad for you. You know, other black women

743
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: may want to have that conversation with with with you, you know,

744
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: that may be a conversation within that space. But I'm

745
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: not weighing in to be like, mm mmm, this is

746
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: the right way to view this within you know, within

747
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: black womanhood. I can only say what I support and

748
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: what I agree with. You know, if someone says something

749
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: egregious or I could be like, yo, that scenms kind

750
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: of foul and this is what I've heard about that.

751
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: But to come in and be like, nah, you can't

752
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: feel that way. I can't say that, you know, but

753
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: I feel like that's kind of That's the weirdness of

754
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: being cis had black men in these discussions is I'm

755
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 2: not here to step over people and tell and tell

756
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: them what to think. And so many, so often black

757
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: men have that kind of ego, and they write books

758
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: and they're telling black women what to think and what

759
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: the experience is supposed to be like and relaying disadvice. Slash.

760
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: I'm speaking for y'all listen to me, and most of

761
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: the time you end up getting sick of these people

762
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: and rejecting them anyway, right, you know, and Coach kind

763
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: of does the opposite of that in my opinion, where

764
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: he's like, I don't know, I'll tell you how I

765
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: feel about this black woman in my life. I'll tell

766
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: you how I feel about this mentor I'll tell you

767
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: how I feel about the subject of an interview I had.

768
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to sit on here and be like,

769
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: this is how black women feel about this thing, or

770
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: this is what black women should do about this thing.

771
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: And I kind of respect that I take that approach

772
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: to a lot of shit where I'm like, I don't

773
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: really know, but this is how I feel.

774
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't know if I'm always gonna say too,

775
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: and uh, going back to what you're saying, how a

776
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: lot of times, you know, when black men are on

777
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: these platforms and they speak out and they kind of

778
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 3: quote unquote talk on black women's behalf, you get the

779
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: same reaction did we get. White women. Don't talk about

780
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: shit you don't know nothing about. You know. That's why

781
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: a lot of times we we we group them in

782
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: the same category on a lot of shit because we're like,

783
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: you're talking about shit you don't know, you're talking about

784
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: on a topic you don't know nothing about. You won't

785
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: you won't actually come to us, the source of whatever

786
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: the fuck you're talking about, and ask us what do

787
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: you think, how do you feel? What are your experiences different?

788
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: You said, no, I haven't experienced that, but I have

789
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: talked to Da da da da da, or I've you know,

790
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: and this and these other things that they had to say,

791
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: because then you're speaking on on you. You're giving somebody

792
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: something from somebody else's experience without you taking credit. A

793
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: lot of times they take credit for shit that like

794
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: if you do have a conversation with us. This is

795
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: why a lot of black women get angry. You have

796
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: these conversations behind closed doors. You meet with us behind

797
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 3: closed doors, because for some reason, it's shameful to fucking

798
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: meet with the black women in public and say we're

799
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 3: having these public conversations about shit that affect brown women.

800
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: You won't have that. Everything is behind her to close door.

801
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, you're taking credit for

802
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: shit that we do. And then you wonder, while we

803
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 3: get angry, it is because you didn't come up with

804
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: the shit on your own. You had to come up

805
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: with it from a source. But the thing is you

806
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: don't give the source that you stole it from credit.

807
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: And that's the problem.

808
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: Well, especially in academia, right, like if you pair it

809
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: someone's work too much, then it's like, well, I should

810
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: just be reading they book, and it feels like you

811
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: just copied that. Like that was one of the things

812
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: I saw when people were going on West on social media.

813
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: Once again, like I said, I kind of stayed out

814
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: of that shit, but one of the things I saw

815
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: people being like is well, Cornell West stole his work

816
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: from Bill Hooks, and they started naming black women like

817
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: trying to say like he just taking eight points. And

818
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if that's true or not.

819
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't really know his work like that,

820
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 2: but I know that that there's this there's just this

821
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: space right there where it is kind of that gender

822
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: wars thing where it's like maybe and maybe he did

823
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: that shit, I don't know, but where if he kind

824
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: of read something that came to those conclusions, or if

825
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: he came to those conclusions on his own, they're not

826
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: it's not his experience. So people do hit you with

827
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: the stay in your lane? Why didn't they just have

828
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: a black woman talk about this thing, which is a

829
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: valid critique. But at the same time, what are you

830
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: supposed to do?

831
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's also one of the things too. For

832
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: some reason, I don't know why people have this myth

833
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: that black women's labor is supposed to always be free.

834
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: You know, so a lot of times they're gonna do

835
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: this shit for free and then get pissed me. You

836
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: be like, hey, I come, but I'm on you. But

837
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: but it's a thousand dollars a file, whatever my fee is.

838
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: You get mad at me where you want to pluck

839
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: my brain and take my time and all this shit.

840
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: Pay me. You would pay a white person if if

841
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: they was to come in here and give they got

842
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: their expertise or whatever the fuck it is.

843
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: You would pay. And there's an animosity I think that

844
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: builds up from if so and so is coming to

845
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: speak and the room got fifty people in it, and

846
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: coach is coming to speak in the room sold out,

847
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: there's just an animosity that's that's gonna be there, you

848
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like where it's like, okay, I

849
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't my lane, quote unquote, my my audience isn't

850
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: as big as yours, and it's not my fault. Like

851
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: I've done the same work. I know what I'm talking about.

852
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: You know, I'm respected within my community and within scholarship,

853
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: and yet motherfuckers just look at me and go vagina.

854
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that shit, correct, you know?

855
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: So and and so I do. Like all things, when

856
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 2: there can only be one and the white people are

857
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: focused on something, there's it's just never gonna be it's

858
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 2: always gonna be mndy. It's always gonna be money, right.

859
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 3: And and and the thing is, it's almost like a

860
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 3: CAS twenty two because the white people in most instances

861
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 3: what the money is. And so a lot of times,

862
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: if you can get over there, that's when you make

863
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: the money. You have black people that have been doing

864
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: this shit for years, and they make their money off

865
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 3: of blackness. But because they make all their coins and

866
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: all their money off of blackness, all of a sudden,

867
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: they're not respected. It's considered less than. You know, all

868
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you don't get the accolades, you don't

869
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: get their wards. You know, you don't stund on the Instagram.

870
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: But you can't stund on an Instagram quote unquote, because

871
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: all of a sudden what you do is worth is not.

872
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: It's valuable because it's black people supporting it, it's black

873
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: people funded it. But you're talking to that underserved market.

874
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: Well also people want in that room though correct. It's

875
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: the like that's the upper eche line of this genre

876
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: of being black academics speaking on race. That's the problem.

877
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: All of it leads to that room, that room full

878
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: of white people that pay money to hear you talk

879
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: about race. It doesn't matter. That's I guess that's maybe

880
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: that I'm working it ours on the air. I guess

881
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: that's my ultimate issue is for me, it doesn't matter

882
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: who's in the room at some point. And I don't

883
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: mean that it doesn't matter like I don't want their

884
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: voice herd. I'm saying, even if I agree with them,

885
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: even if it's the greatest person in the world to me,

886
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: whoever's in the room, people are going to partially turn

887
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 2: on them because they're the one in the room, right

888
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: Because ultimately, the pedestal there is always gonna the pinnacle

889
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 2: of your career is gonna be a bunch of white

890
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: people co signing you, and it doesn't fucking matter if

891
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: you want to be or not. You know, to hear

892
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: Cornell West, a guy who's IVY league degreed up in

893
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: white spaces, who's made a living and being in white spaces,

894
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: who's made a living as being the voice of black

895
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: people for white people, talk about somebody being a neoliberal darling.

896
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it would take one to no one,

897
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,479
Speaker 2: you know, to a guy who got an HBCU, who's

898
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: an HBCU drop out. It just don't come off right.

899
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: But like I said, it wouldn't matter who was in

900
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: the room. I feel like that that person just gonna

901
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: catch hell. And the same thing, like I said for

902
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Easter Ray shit, the same thing for Tyler p ten

903
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, right, the same thing is to always

904
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: the same shit. Whoever is the person gotta get shitted

905
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: on by black people to prove that we don't really like,

906
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: to prove we're not a monolith, we have to shit

907
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: on this one person. And it's like, I don't know

908
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: what the point like that anyway, Anyway, I'm just repeating myself.

909
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: This entire podcast one thousand come through Julyanny Cowler season

910
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: screenshots says d ramzy pH done. Michael Williams says, rider

911
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: carry intellect, you will be free. Cap was amazing. You

912
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: guys had a good mix of insightful commentary and humor.

913
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I listened to this episode three times of how It's

914
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: allowed each time. Tupac in the background was perfect soundtrack

915
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: for the blackademic throw down. It's perfect for the I'm

916
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: woke but you will get this verbal heat crowd. I

917
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: E r Angela Raie and Michael Eric Dyson. Yeah, I

918
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: only wish Michael Eric Dyson that chimed in again.

919
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: But yes, I love his vocapitulation's ass.

920
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Listen his ghost to uh of Cornel West that was

921
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: that's that's the ether.

922
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: Of all of them long, all time classic. I love

923
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 3: his words. Honey, you gonna get some caught from Tubac

924
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: and Biggie and some of them are your other favorite.

925
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I'm here for it.

926
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 2: Can't wait to see Cornell West on blad TV explaining

927
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: his side and him trying to protect the culture looking

928
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: like his boondock's character. This was delicious. Great episode, guys,

929
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

930
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

931
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: Derek Harris says, sick with the flu cough, but Karen,

932
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 2: her husband is helping me. Get through a ps, get

933
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: your flu shots. The flu is real out here.

934
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: Lo o L yes it is.

935
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: EV says someone needs to check Cornell West's blood pressure

936
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: because that dude stay salty. The poe was who won

937
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: the blackademic beat this time? Uh, Cornell West, Tanasi Coats

938
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: or Jolanni Cobb fifty two percent of y'all and the

939
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: winner is Johanni Cobb. Three win with Tanasi Coats and

940
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: five percent with Cornell West. You know, my man on

941
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: Facebook was saying how he wished UH had a deleted

942
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: ascount the account from Twitter and quote unquote like Tuck Taylor,

943
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, what's funny is he really did

944
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: defend himself via his Twitter account and cite his work

945
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: and show it to be like listen, like he may

946
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: not have been boring woke quote unquote nobody really is,

947
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: but he's talking about the death of trans women, he's

948
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 2: talking about LGBTQ people in resistance, he's talking about black

949
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: women in resistance. Like he's talking about these things more

950
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: than he was. And I just don't think people read

951
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: his work so it doesn't matter. And I think that

952
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: had to be the most disheartening part, you know, it's

953
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: like if someone would allow on me or allow on

954
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 2: you about our pot, like they don't talk about this topic.

955
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: And we have this fucking podcast with volumes fifteen hundred

956
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: episodes of but we did talk about that, and people

957
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: just go in our mentions like, yeah, y'all don't do that.

958
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: I would be upset because I'd be like, that's you know,

959
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: like that's fucking disgusting that I feel like my work

960
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: is in vain or more importantly, I don't need to

961
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: be in a space where people are following me as

962
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: if I'm a celebrity and they don't even check out.

963
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: My work, right, And I feel as though it's real

964
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 3: easy to tell somebody you shouldn't delete your Twitter account

965
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: when you're not bombarded with probably millions of responds. Don't know, baby,

966
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 3: and my thing is leaving Twitter is not a tucking

967
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 3: tail in quote unquote running.

968
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny is and that's I responded

969
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: to him. I said, well, he didn't really to tail

970
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: and run. He kind of responded on Twitter with his

971
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: with you know, they said, well, what I wanted from

972
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: him is like a long form kind of like debate response,

973
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: And I said, you know what one. We still might

974
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: get that true because he writes for the Atlantic and

975
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: he does specialize in long form. He may be sitting

976
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: around figuring out what he wants to say right now.

977
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: He may never, but he may also be correct. We

978
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't get it from anyway, I said. Also, he responded

979
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,479
Speaker 2: on Twitter and he was like, that's not what I wanted.

980
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: I said, So then what does it matter if he

981
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: deleted his account right cause because it sounds like you

982
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: weren't gonna get what you wanted from Twitter either way.

983
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: So why call that running? Because you really do want

984
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: him to respond with some depth to these to this analysis,

985
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: and you know whether he does or not. I think

986
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 2: Twitter wouldn't be the space for that anyway.

987
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 3: No, it's not designed for that.

988
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: Like I said, it had to it had and maybe

989
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: it's just me internalizing their personalizy. It has to suck

990
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: when you have done so much research and you have

991
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 2: literal proof and links to like this is what I

992
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: said on these topics, and like the first like with

993
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 2: the drone shit. The first like five things he linked

994
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: to were like this when I talked about drums, this

995
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: when I talked about drums, this, want I talk about drums,

996
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: and this is when I talked about drums and people

997
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: were like, see, you didn't have a problem with this

998
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: boy Obama with droning people. And I'm like, oh, they

999
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 2: don't even read or care. It just doesn't matter. They've

1000
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: just been attacking people on social media so much the truth,

1001
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: does it It stopped mattering to people a long time ago, Yes,

1002
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: it did. Brooklyn Shoeba says, putting on I can't take

1003
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Closter head scarf and Malcolm ATE's eyeglasses from Circle nineteen

1004
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: ninety two. Now this the top the type of beef

1005
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: I like, ah, those basics, says Coach went all MLK Obama,

1006
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: we go high like some kind of gentleman, letting the

1007
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 2: record show and whatnot. Don't he know he's a college

1008
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: dropof cop came in with the pinch hitter though. Amazing

1009
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: What happens at the end of the year when there's

1010
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: a slow time. Yeah, I guess school ain't in right

1011
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: and it's random.

1012
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: Things were like, oh my, almost like the what's you?

1013
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: Mccallarg being Obama's translator, like, Hey, I know you can't

1014
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: say this, but I don't give a fuck. I'm not

1015
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: trying to you know, show out for these white folks.

1016
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: He is what's happening?

1017
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: We had episode fifteen eighty one, fat Albert versus the police.

1018
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: A lot of people seem to like this, Yes they did.

1019
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: I even plusted the video for my phone of us

1020
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: talking about it. Spiteful. Chad says, as a black person,

1021
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: I find that I'm not really driven by hope as

1022
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: much as I am by Spike. But black people are

1023
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: an't supposed to have these negative emotions, according to some,

1024
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: even though we have every right to have them. If

1025
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: people want us to have a nice view of America,

1026
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: then maybe America should stop being so racist, come right?

1027
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 2: Or why can't they write about us flowery and nice

1028
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: like they write about coworkers. I'm just saying, uh.

1029
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: Were gonna catch black lung and die because now they

1030
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 3: ain't got no insurance to cover that shit.

1031
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 2: Right? But they be like, don't call these people names,

1032
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: don't call them stupid, don't do this, And I'm like,

1033
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: y'all don't have a problem calling us names, calling us stupid, lazy,

1034
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: a bunch of.

1035
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 3: Shit, who ain't gonna who who don't whose jobs ain't

1036
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: gonna exist?

1037
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: The poe was easy. Do you get more racists when

1038
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: you are tired. Yes, it's the first. Uh, that's the

1039
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: first answer. Or you could say no, I stayed the

1040
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: same amount of racists all the time, or I'm not racist.

1041
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: H CA, which one would you fall into?

1042
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: A too?

1043
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's actually the one that got the responseed.

1044
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: Fifty eight percent of people say the say that they

1045
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 2: stayed the same amount of racist all the time. Eighteen

1046
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: percent say yes, I get more racist when I get

1047
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 2: sleepy I eat niggers man, twenty four percent say I'm

1048
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: not racist. Joe Spacey says, I never thought about it

1049
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: as more racist, But if I don't get my z's,

1050
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: I could be cranky as a motherfucker. Not no telling

1051
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: what I might say. Gotta be careful, never know who

1052
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 2: might come back at you. Right, Yeah, I always love

1053
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: when people say shit like I was hungry and that's

1054
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: why I had an attitude, and like those aren't my responsibility?

1055
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 3: Ay, sure ain't my responsibility?

1056
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: Like you didn't eat and somehow I'm in the hot seat,

1057
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 2: Like I gotta watch myself around you. Nigga, you better

1058
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 2: get you should have took care of that before you

1059
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: got cussed out.

1060
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1061
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Eve E responded to episode fifteen eighty two TVGWT podcind panels.

1062
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: What we did was we took all the pod kind

1063
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: panels we were on, put him in one big episode

1064
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: if you wanted to, or we said you could just

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Speaker 2: check it out there. Yes, I really enjoyed listening to

1066
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 2: your panels. Podcasts of Podcasters of Color was definitely my favorite,

1067
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 2: and I was totally fangirling to hear Francesca Ramsey, whose

1068
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 2: podcast I also listened to. But I enjoyed each of

1069
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: the panels. I didn't know that Dylan Marrin was the

1070
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: guy behind the YouTube videos of every word said by

1071
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: cursing the color in the movie. He's a real one

1072
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: for that. Do you think you'll have anyone on your

1073
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 2: show from the panels you shared, you two had great

1074
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: chemistry with your fellow panelists. Thank you for putting up

1075
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: this audio. You know, we did get some of the

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00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: information from folks, so maybe, yeah, we got cars and stuff.

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00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe What's what was your favorite panel? Was the poll?

1078
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: It was very easy, just three tough topics. We love

1079
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: communities or podcasts of costs of Color. Podcasts of Colors

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00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 2: one with seventy five percent, which makes sense for our

1081
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: demographic and we Love Communities sixteen point six percent and

1082
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 2: tough Topics eight point three percent. We really I enjoyed

1083
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: being on all the panels. What was your favorite one to.

1084
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: Do the podcast Color?

1085
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that room was just so ready for

1086
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: us and we're really in our elements.

1087
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 3: I love them all. But as far as like the

1088
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 3: energy of the room, that one. Yeah.

1089
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: Francesca brought up a great point about, you know, the

1090
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: idea of a lot of people being like having people

1091
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: of color on a panel about being people of color.

1092
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 2: If that's the only panel they did, that's kind of like,

1093
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, messed up. But at the same time, that

1094
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: was I'm glad I got to do that panel. You know,

1095
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: that was probably my favorite, my favorite experience there other

1096
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: than possibly a live show. Correct. All right, let me

1097
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: check to see if we got any Skype voice messages,

1098
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: and I also check to see if we have any

1099
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: emailsky which means it should just take five to ten hours.

1100
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Speaker 3: I know, to get everything up, sucking up and running

1101
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 3: for our computer to accept Yeah, why can't why can't

1102
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: you be like the phone company. I just able to

1103
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 3: change companies to keep my same telephone number.

1104
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, All right, let me see what we got here. Okay, actually,

1105
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: let me move. I gotta move some of these emails

1106
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 2: over too.

1107
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 3: Problem.

1108
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 2: All right, this one's loaded and we got a voicemail today.

1109
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: See what I can play it. I thought I had

1110
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: just started. Okay, play, let me try one more time.

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: So I never, but I thought it was that Walmart.

1112
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 4: And I've seen Chad with Boses.

1113
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: But what just happened?

1114
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: So I never, but I.

1115
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: Thought it was that Walmart.

1116
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 4: And I've seen Chad with Boses on ebony cover and

1117
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 4: all I heard was, well, I said, Chads with I

1118
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 4: got so weak and nobody knew what I was laughing at,

1119
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 4: and I felt solstally but ill Chad with boldness, Roddy

1120
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: Carroll I, and you are so great, and thank you

1121
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: so much for all of your insight and everything that

1122
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: you do for the black community and helping white people

1123
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 4: understand the bullshit that they do.

1124
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: Thank you. Christmas, Oh Mary Christmas baby. You ain't leave

1125
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: your name but Mary Christmas. And I'm glad we got

1126
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: the we you had a good time with us.

1127
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know that we

1128
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: count as doing things for the black community necessarily.

1129
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: Know, it's some people in the black community to be

1130
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 3: like not them two niggas, right.

1131
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: We don't want job representing us, right, I don't never

1132
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: want to be in that seat.

1133
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 3: They be protesting outside of science, right they say nigga

1134
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: too much? Come on their country or they from the South.

1135
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: Jesus his wife and that vorce.

1136
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1137
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I'm really good with exactly

1138
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: where we are right now.

1139
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: Come on. It's it's like the perfect balance, you know.

1140
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm I'm actually loving this. Don't know where the show

1141
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: take us, but I'm like, I'm almost like Dave. You

1142
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: know how Dave Chappelle was like, I don't want I

1143
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 3: don't want to be famous like that.

1144
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's actually one of my favorite Chappelle stand

1145
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: up where he's like, I'm nervous.

1146
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how to handle it. Don't not because

1147
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: that's the thing, I know, for a lot of people,

1148
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 3: you know, for a lot of our fans and people

1149
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: that love us, y'all go, y'all famous, I'm going no, no, no, no,

1150
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: we're not famous. Like famous is being not to be

1151
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 3: able to function, you know, outside of your house without

1152
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: being spotted. We can function in society.

1153
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 2: Right, and uh yeah, she's for those who haven't listened

1154
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: to the show that long. She's reverencing a fake movie

1155
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: trailer that I made for Black History. The movie Yea.

1156
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: I have a running joke that Chadwick Boseman plays every

1157
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: historical Black figure in every movie ever. He's been James

1158
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: James Brown, He's been Jackie Robinson. So I made this

1159
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: trailer myself and I'm for you.

1160
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 5: With black History is outlawed. One man has to be

1161
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 5: all the historical black people throughout time to teach his

1162
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 5: class what it means to have black history starring Chadwick

1163
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 5: Boseman as Martin Luther King Junior.

1164
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: I Have a Dream.

1165
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 5: And Chadwick Boseman is George Washington Carver Behold the Peanut,

1166
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 5: also starring Chadwick Boseman as Harriet Tubman.

1167
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: I Can't Die But Once.

1168
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 5: And also starring Chadwick Boseman. That's So journal Truth, Ain't

1169
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: I a Woman? Introducing Chadwick Boseman as Malcolm X. We

1170
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 5: Didn't Land on Plymouth Rocks starring Chadwick Boseman as Rosa Parks.

1171
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 5: No featureing Chadwick Boseman as Leon Robinson in The Five Heartbeats,

1172
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 5: Don't You want to hang with Old Eddie Kane Lawn,

1173
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 5: Chadwick Boseman as Michael Jordan.

1174
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 2: I don't take pictures with niggas.

1175
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 5: And also Chadwick Boseman as oprah Winfley. You get a car,

1176
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 5: then Chadwick Boseman as Little Richard a Wapopper loop O

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01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 5: Belop Bell Booman, Chadwick Boseman as Mary and Barry bitch

1178
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 5: set me up for Cold starring Chadwick Boseman as Beyonce.

1179
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: You must not know about me. Introducing Chadwick Boseman as

1180
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: Lebron James. I'm taking my talents to self be.

1181
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 5: Chadwick Boseman will also happen to be Snoop dog Fu

1182
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 5: shizzled from Chadwick Boseman as that one nigga who badged

1183
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 5: your groceries down at the grocery store.

1184
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: Will that be paper or plastic?

1185
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 5: Then Chadwick Boseman will be Queen Latina, who you calling

1186
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 5: up bitch And there's a revelation coming to the screen.

1187
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 5: It's only Chadwick Boseman can do it. He'll also be

1188
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 5: Karen Lawrow. We need empathy and sympathy. Finally, Chadwick Boseman

1189
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 5: will be you damn this nigga and everything coming to b.

1190
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: E T this fall.

1191
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 5: Make sure you watch Black History, the movie Black History.

1192
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: So if you haven't been around that long, that's what

1193
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: she's referred to. And yes, every time Chadwick Boseman is

1194
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: in any movie, my mentions blow up. Especially I love him.

1195
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: He's been Thurgo Marshall now and.

1196
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm here for everything he plays in.

1197
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: But I need to look at his IMDb and who

1198
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: he has, who he has coming up for his next

1199
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 2: history experiment because I'm.

1200
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: Here for it, all right, nigga be acting his ass off.

1201
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 3: I'm here for it.

1202
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: You do re acting? Reacting?

1203
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, honey, if he played me, I'm honey, I'm gonna

1204
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: win an award.

1205
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: I think that's the only voicemail we had this week.

1206
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: I know it's funny because I laugh at it still

1207
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: when I hear myself like, I was like, what's wrong

1208
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 2: with me? H yeah? Anyway, let me get to the

1209
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: voicemails because I think that's like I said, I don't

1210
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: think we have anymore I mean emails, I don't voicemail,

1211
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: all right, So let's see here. We got three new voicemails.

1212
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: We got real emails. What is wrong with me? What

1213
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: is wrong with me?

1214
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 3: I was fucking stupid.

1215
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: Girl Scout cookie substitute Ria says, Hey, Ron and Karen

1216
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 2: on the subject of Girl Scout cookies, Keebler makes us

1217
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: some more such too, that's identical to the Girl Scout.

1218
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 2: I hate my coworker for introducer beats as I have

1219
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 2: a limited self control with it comes of sweets. Needless

1220
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to say, I will stay away from the cookie hour

1221
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: on my shopping trips. Happy Holidays, Yeah, I've seen we've

1222
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: had those before, not just some more ones I think,

1223
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 2: but the thad mint ones. I think they'll call like

1224
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: grasshoppers or some weird shit.

1225
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. It was good.

1226
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: M Teresa says sore Ratchetts material. Hello, Rodic, Karen and Rod.

1227
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan and love your chemistry, humor and

1228
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: dedication to your craft. You are like family to some degree.

1229
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I haven't been able to support you monetarily yet.

1230
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 2: I do sing your praises and promoted your shows. I

1231
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: love you recap, especially to Walk and Dad. If you

1232
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: ever open it up for your fans to recap with you,

1233
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: I love to join you also. The podcim Panels sounded amazing.

1234
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: They were helpful. One day, I hope to join you

1235
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: all at the podcast world was a fellow podcaster. My

1236
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: initial reason for emailing you so not that you need

1237
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: more material for any of the segments on your shows,

1238
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: but I saw that my own my local saw this

1239
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: on my local news. Immediately thought of YouTube. Uh cool,

1240
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,919
Speaker 2: Uh the sunglass emoji. And by the way, every year

1241
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: I forget to ask for your Chris art if they're

1242
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: still available, I would love one. If not, understand I snoozed,

1243
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: I lose Happy Holidays. It's still available. We haven't taken

1244
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: a picture for it. So Teresa, if you're hearing this,

1245
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: hurry up and get your address in within the next

1246
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: couple of days.

1247
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 3: Some of y'all was like, I thought, I miss it.

1248
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 3: Now you're not gonna miss you probably get them a

1249
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: big first of the year, but yeah, you're gonna get them.

1250
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look, New Year is still a holiday. Come on,

1251
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:29,959
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1252
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: You know, y'all know we do a lot of shit.

1253
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: Y'all get it.

1254
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: By Martin Luther King's birthday, that's a holiday, you know,

1255
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: holiday to y'all gonna get some people going.

1256
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: Damn it. I missed him, Baby, you ain't missed him.

1257
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: Come on and get on the list. Email us your

1258
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: address at the black guy who chips at Glan.

1259
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Were planning on taking our picture tonight today, so you

1260
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: know it is. I don't know what y'all gonna do,

1261
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: and I guess I could send y'all the ones from

1262
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: last year, but I feel like a lot of y'all

1263
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: already got those last year, right, So yeah, uh, Erica

1264
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: says hey, rd of Karen. I've been listening to you

1265
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: show for almost two years, so this email is long overdue.

1266
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: Since I've been listening to the show, has will come

1267
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: and the such a part of my daily life. Oh wait,

1268
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: I need to save.

1269
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: This articile my dad. We can take them. It's signing

1270
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 3: the mold cars and stuff.

1271
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: What the old cards?

1272
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we go out take them in time.

1273
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so that doesn't seem right anyway. Since

1274
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: I've been listening to the show, has been in such

1275
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 2: a part of my daily life. And I'm a social

1276
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 2: worker in juvenile foster care. In most days it's hard

1277
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: to get out of bed, but every morning as I dress,

1278
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: I turned your show on from the previous day and

1279
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 2: before I know what I'm out there doing in the office.

1280
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: Oh so in a way, we're helping you do social

1281
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: work and that's cool. A few days ago I realized

1282
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: that word not for the Combat Jack Show, I might

1283
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: have never found your show, which is a frightening thought.

1284
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: I began listening to Combat Jack Show before it was

1285
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: even a podcast, when they were doing the internet radio

1286
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: show through his podcast. I became a huge Bomony Jones

1287
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: fan after he first it was first interviewed there after

1288
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 2: following both for a while, I heard him mentioning you

1289
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: guys a few times, so eventually I turned in to listen.

1290
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: One of the best things I've done. Listening to podcasts

1291
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: like The Combat Jack Show to read and now your

1292
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: show have very likely kept me employed and kept the

1293
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: roof over my head. I'm able to just tune out

1294
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: the bullshit at work in the world, or at least

1295
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: not feel so long your sensibilities and worldview mirror my own.

1296
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: Not as part of your community, I'm listening to what's

1297
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: the tea three guys on? I mean now as part

1298
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: of your community. Sorry, And I've been through the whole

1299
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 2: Firestar archive. Yeah, man, Firestar is still my favorite podcast,

1300
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: even after all this time. Man, those dudes keep me

1301
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: in stitches. I keep telling my keep me in stitches.

1302
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: One of my white women.

1303
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: Got that pumpkin spice over.

1304
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: There, keep me in stitches. Anyway, they just tickled my

1305
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: fancy guys, they are the bees knees. I keep telling

1306
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: myself that I would write into you so and turned

1307
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: in and it turned into months and now years. You

1308
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 2: always think you'll have the time to get around the

1309
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 2: sand what you want to say and doing what you

1310
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 2: going to do. Though I was a fan, I didn't

1311
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: realize how much combat had effected my life. Even when

1312
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: I heard that he was singing, it didn't occurred to

1313
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: me that he would pass because he was such a monument.

1314
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 2: I thought this was just another trial for him and

1315
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: he would use it to become even stronger. This so,

1316
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 2: this has been a huge blow, huge loss, and my

1317
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 2: emotions have been raw and spewing. So I just wanted

1318
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 2: to take the time to thank you Riding Caaren for

1319
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 2: what you do for us all every day and tell

1320
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: you how much you mean to me. You are family.

1321
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 2: I love you guys. Happy Holiday, Bailey, Thank you Bailey,

1322
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: and yeah, for those that don't know combat Jack succumb to.

1323
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: I think it was like prostate cancer or something. Just yeah,

1324
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: just this week. I think he was diagnosed a few

1325
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: months back, and you know he was like I'm gonna

1326
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 2: fight this and stuff, but you just never know how

1327
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: that stuff's gonna go. I know he was before when

1328
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: he first got diagnosed, he was like, look, take it serious,

1329
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 2: black men, go to the doctor. He checked out, get

1330
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: all your physicals and stuff.

1331
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 3: You know, let's roll on the control.

1332
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 2: Yeah and plus plus pro say cancer is one of

1333
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: those things or if they catch it early it's very treatable,

1334
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 2: but later it's not. But uh yeah, man. We had

1335
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: the only experience I truly had with combat Jack was

1336
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: when we went to Revoke Con. We were on a

1337
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: panel with him, taxed on ironically, DJ f N and

1338
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: Noriega was there, and uh, he was just such a

1339
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 2: welcoming He's a beautiful soul. Yeah, he's just one of

1340
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 2: those people that I'm sure everybody has a nice story

1341
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 2: about him, but you know, he was just such a

1342
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 2: welcoming presence. He was, you know, like he knows you. Yeah,

1343
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 2: very new York. Everybody on there was so new York.

1344
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: We me and Karen just straight up from from the South,

1345
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: and everybody else there is from like NYC and ship,

1346
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: so you know, they were super braggadocious and uh, you know,

1347
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: he made it a good time.

1348
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 3: Man.

1349
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,799
Speaker 2: We took pictures with him and and everybody after the panel,

1350
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: and you know, he was cool in the green room.

1351
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: Bomony Jones is there. He's a fan of both from

1352
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 2: the from the from the Morning Jones, which many many

1353
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 2: people that do know me know me via my calls

1354
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: to The Morning Jones. So, uh, you know, it was

1355
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 2: all kind of cool to connect and whatnot. And I

1356
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: still kind of regret because he told me like, oh,

1357
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: hit me up, have me on the show and stuff.

1358
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm one of those people where I'm like,

1359
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 2: I don't know this person really means. It's not they're

1360
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: being nice to me in my face. But I'm sure

1361
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: he meant it, you know. And uh, you know, I

1362
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 2: listened to his show now as religiously as other people,

1363
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure, but I thought he was just an excellent interviewer.

1364
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: I love that his interviews took the time, like how

1365
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: long the interview was? Is? How long the interview was?

1366
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 2: I loved that he brought people back for two and

1367
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 2: three times I thought that was dope. And more importantly, man,

1368
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: I love watching him growth, Yes, And I loved him

1369
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: having letting people come on and have the platform without

1370
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: trying to be antagonistic or fronting either trying to be

1371
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: like fake woke and when the person leaves you back

1372
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: to being ignorant. You know, it was cool to watch growth,

1373
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: especially from somebody that to the hip hop generation was

1374
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: a bit of an elder statesman, so you know, and

1375
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: I never not naming any names, but I never saw

1376
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: him really ship on the young generation and try to

1377
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: tell them how fucked up what they were doing was

1378
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: and how break his his error was and nobody could.

1379
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just.

1380
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: Seemed like he was a real, uh testament to to

1381
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: what growth can be and one of the few people

1382
01:11:55,320 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: that I was able to genuinely show the world like

1383
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: this is how we can treat each other. So he'll

1384
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: be missed for that, you know. Yeah.

1385
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: And also he has a wealth ful of knowledge, Like

1386
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: it's a lot of history and knowledge and stories and backgrounds.

1387
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: You know. He he's an icon, you know, And it's

1388
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 3: one of those things where he touched so many different

1389
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: generations of hip hop and has so many stories about

1390
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: different generations of hip hop's because I know, listen to

1391
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: his shown peopuld go back where I didn't even know

1392
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,440
Speaker 3: some of the people, but you know they were pioneers

1393
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 3: of this genre music. And I was just like wow

1394
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 3: and sitting and listen to the stories in the background.

1395
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: And he bought a lot of women on his show,

1396
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 3: a lot of black women on his show, and let

1397
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 3: them talk and their voices be heard, and a lot

1398
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 3: of times that's a rarity in the hip hop field period.

1399
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: And it's just one of those things where you could

1400
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 3: just sit back and one and if you go back

1401
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 3: and you look at all the things he's becompassed's accomplished

1402
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 3: a lot in his lifetime.

1403
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's only forty eight years old, man. And that

1404
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: Loudspeaker's network, I mean, that's centered around From my perspective

1405
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: and a lot of people's respective, I feel like that

1406
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the Combat Jack Show, you wouldn't

1407
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: have the read, you wouldn't have Fan Broughs. Like they

1408
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: built something there partially off of his work. So yeah, man,

1409
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: I you know, I just think dude, like I said,

1410
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 2: we wasn't like I'm not gonna overstate our relationship. We

1411
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 2: were just cordially tight as far as like, you know,

1412
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 2: I've seen him in person, he was cool as fuck.

1413
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 2: We would tweet every once in a while or something.

1414
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: He's hit me up with a DM or something every

1415
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: once in a while. But like he was just he was.

1416
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: He was what I hope a lot of people can

1417
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: strive to be. Like, you ain't gotta try to be perfect,

1418
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: and you ain't gotta try to be fake, and you

1419
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 2: don't have to be on quote unquote all the time.

1420
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 2: But I really wish people would be a more a

1421
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 2: little more transparent about and honest about their growth and

1422
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: about their process and not hop so much into the

1423
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 2: zone of scorning people, judging people, try to take people down,

1424
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: or being fake towards people so that you appear to

1425
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 2: be some type of better person than you are. Like

1426
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 2: I like that, you know, he was willing to uh

1427
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 2: to be a dude that would talk about things that typically,

1428
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: especially as a black man, I can't really speak for

1429
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: other people, but as a straight as sise that black man,

1430
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: so much of what we do is about putting up

1431
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: a wall, like I don't want you to see me cry.

1432
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to see you get you know, I

1433
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 2: don't want you to see me have like vulnerable. I

1434
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 2: don't want you to see me, you know, having conflict

1435
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: with people where I try to resolve it and I

1436
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: don't look like the victor and stuff like that. I did,

1437
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: Like I think he was really good at you know,

1438
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 2: I think he I think he had the episode where

1439
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 2: him and being I mean was talking one time and

1440
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: that shit, Like I was like, wow, Like that's the

1441
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 2: power of a medium. And you can't get that on

1442
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: any radio show. You'll never get that on any TV show.

1443
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: That that's something you can only get on this on

1444
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,719
Speaker 2: the podcast and only when people are being genuine. So yeah,

1445
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:20,839
Speaker 2: rest in peace, man.

1446
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: And real listen see it. And I remember Titana tweeted

1447
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: on Twitter that she He's the reason why she was

1448
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 3: even bought on to the fan bros. Like it was

1449
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 3: one of those things where he was like, yeah, you know,

1450
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: so it's one of those things where he reached out

1451
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 3: to the community and I'm talking about like all the

1452
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: people of the community.

1453
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, I forgot I said I prostate, but

1454
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: it was colon cancer. But yeah, And he had some

1455
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 2: dope interviews. Deray and Netta had a gope interview on there.

1456
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean that his legacy will live on in his

1457
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: work for a long time. I think he will. Obviously

1458
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: it's way too soon to talk about what his legacy

1459
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 2: will be for a lot of people, but I hope

1460
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: that it remains as positive as as people uh were feeling.

1461
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, it was cool to see everybody going down

1462
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: the timeline with like this is my memory of him,

1463
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: this is a thing that he did, this is a

1464
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: you know that. That's kind of cool. So all right, Uh,

1465
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 2: we had some gifts too before we get out of here,

1466
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 2: you motherfuckers.

1467
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 3: I know, rather to check the mail and I came

1468
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: in and I was like I had to help him

1469
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 3: bring from the boxes. Then I was like, what the

1470
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 3: hell is the sentence workshop?

1471
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 2: I went to check the mail. Guys, Okay, I went

1472
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: to go check the mail, and the motherfucker I said, yeah,

1473
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm checking my box and he was like, yeah, you

1474
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: need a hand card. I was like, for what, I know,

1475
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 2: because I was coming to get my Hello fresh fresh,

1476
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 2: Like I wasn't even thinking about like what I hope

1477
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,680
Speaker 2: these niggas sent me some. I just was like, let

1478
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 2: me go check. And it was so many boxes and

1479
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: so full and so heavy. I need a fucking hand card.

1480
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: Two trips to get out to my car, you guys.

1481
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 3: And I had to help him bring stuff in.

1482
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 2: So all right, we got some car are still layla?

1483
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: I mean, my mom sent us this. Why don't you

1484
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: put this in? I don't think this kind of sent

1485
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 2: it to the podcast, but thank you, mama. It counts

1486
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: for my mom and Laila and my dad. Thank you.

1487
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that counts all right.

1488
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: And then some of these things, we didn't bring it

1489
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 2: here because we've already hooked them up, but we still

1490
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 2: have the Amazon description thing that comes with it and

1491
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 2: make sure that's the right one. And all right, yeah,

1492
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: we got from we got a Carrick, a new CARRIC

1493
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 2: K fifty five. This is big, programmable, big ass Carrick, y'all.

1494
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: And we got it from Auntie Maine, who says Happy

1495
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: New Year, Karen and Rod, wishing you peace and prosperity

1496
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen and beyond with love and gratitude. Auntie Maine.

1497
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,799
Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all something, This CARRIC is so fucking dope.

1498
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 2: It's so big because the last one was like a

1499
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: single cup cur which was dope. You know, we had

1500
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: on the list, but I think, well, maybe I'm being

1501
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: pairing up. But I read somewhere where it was like,

1502
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: if you had Joe here more than out of years,

1503
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 2: you are drinking molde And I was like, oh so,

1504
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 2: I was like, let me add let me refresh the list,

1505
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: and added on that Antie Man came through. Thank you, sweetie,

1506
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 2: and let me see who. I think she may have

1507
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 2: sent us two things, but I'm not sure. Also we

1508
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: got Charaine sent us some stuff. Uh, she said, the

1509
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: Black Baywatch Blu Ray, which was a movie that I

1510
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,720
Speaker 2: enjoyed it this year underrated movie. I don't know what

1511
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 2: the critics were.

1512
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 3: Thinking, get a part too, but I loved it.

1513
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,839
Speaker 2: Right, she says, Hi, I enjoy your gift from Charraine

1514
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: and talking to my appreciation. Thank you from Chraine. And

1515
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: I think she had another one. It was oh oh

1516
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: oh wait, this is different. Let me I feel like

1517
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: she got us two things. Oh she did, okay, I said,

1518
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: two things, okay, co Coco. Then h Steen, the dude

1519
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: who also gave us money to get passed for it.

1520
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 3: I know, shout out to you, baby, he.

1521
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: Said, caring a water pick.

1522
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because I got braces and I had heard

1523
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 3: about people using the water pick and I was talking

1524
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 3: about it online and I had one on there and

1525
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: he was like, this one is a better quality. So Baby,

1526
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: I got it because he was like, I don't know

1527
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 3: if it's gonna get there for Christmas, but Amazon was

1528
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: like we got you, so thank you very much. And

1529
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: I used it for the show.

1530
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,480
Speaker 2: It is really really it is neat.

1531
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 3: Because for those of you that have braces sometimes it's

1532
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: hard to get between. It's like a water flow, so

1533
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 3: you put water in it. It's like a water jet

1534
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: stream that streams through so you can get like between

1535
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 3: the braces around the braces. Then mine has like different

1536
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 3: types of things you can use. With one of them,

1537
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 3: you can actually brush your teeth with it and you

1538
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 3: can get like upper brown the gum line, and they

1539
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 3: said it actually is actually cleaner for your mouth, particularly

1540
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: when you have braces because you're dealing with the metal.

1541
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: So Baby, I can't tell you thank you enough. Y'all

1542
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 3: thank you so much for everything. But yes, baby, thank you.

1543
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: Also, I did you may did send or something else?

1544
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: She said. The mixer Karen got a five sweet Ultra

1545
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: high Power hand mixer red one for mixing like food

1546
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: in the kitchen and shit.

1547
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I have put it on there because we

1548
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 3: got one. But you know, we've had it for years,

1549
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 3: and I was like, well, you know we've had it

1550
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: for years. It might burn out soon, so I'll put

1551
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: one on there. So I thank you baby, so I

1552
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 3: could be five speed mixing my mash potatoes. Thank you.

1553
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: We got this card. It comes with three glasses. Oh okay,

1554
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: oh holiday chair, hold on a holiday free? Wait so

1555
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: it changes the and now you look at it. Oh

1556
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 2: so it says a holiday free of what was it say? Fear? Oh?

1557
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: What should you be afraid of? Today? And then you

1558
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: spend the wheel and it tells you what to be

1559
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: afraid of? This is this is just as blah blah blah,

1560
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:21,800
Speaker 2: and it.

1561
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: Has like Facebook, Twitter, It has like the different social

1562
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: media's on there.

1563
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy tweets, posts, talk radio. That's dope. Man.

1564
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 2: They didn't sign it. Oh is it on here?

1565
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 3: I think it should be.

1566
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: Oh it just says three d effect use one eye

1567
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,719
Speaker 2: of the time to see. Oh so I got closed

1568
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: on eye? Okay, this is this does nothing for you guys, Oh,

1569
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 2: wishing you a holiday free of.

1570
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 3: Fear?

1571
01:21:56,160 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: What should you be afraid of? Today? And okay? Cool?

1572
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: Oh and then to tell you that's dope. It looks

1573
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: like somebody waters the second centers this and I can't

1574
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: tell your first name.

1575
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,480
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but thank you.

1576
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Maybe Brian. Maybe. All right, let's see what else you

1577
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 2: got here. We got another card, this from Portland. Oh

1578
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 2: look at this. Oh, wishing you sparkle, sparkle. Wishing you

1579
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: chair for a bright Mary christ Is and a happy

1580
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: New Year. Twenty seventeen, Rody Karen, Greetings from your one

1581
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: listener in Portland, Oregon. I'm not yet a subscriber, but

1582
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: wanted to send a note thinking of your podcast. I'm

1583
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 2: a faithful listener because of your insightful commentary and uh

1584
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 2: sorely needed last thank you for all that you do

1585
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 2: in creating independent black thoughts for the masses.

1586
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 3: Uh.

1587
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 2: We've barely survived twenty seventeen, but praying I know, I

1588
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 2: know the twenty eighteen is calmer and ends without the

1589
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 2: burnt orange Julius. Shout out to Larry Williams and I missed.

1590
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 2: Thanks again for everything and happy New Years. Sincerely, Lead

1591
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 2: Charles aka Random Rob.

1592
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: Thank you. We love the car. You'll still send those

1593
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 3: Christmas cars. We take them till after the first of

1594
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: the year, so if y'all want to send them.

1595
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Oh, Karen, you got this lip bomb? Was it lip bomb?

1596
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think the little thing is in this somewhere.

1597
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 3: Ain't the paper with it?

1598
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking for it. And I know we almost

1599
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 2: hit the break before we go to the next session.

1600
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: All right, maybe it's saying this. Let's see, Oh Charine

1601
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: sent you. Yeah, vd L tent bar, triple shot, triple

1602
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: red and it was it was some lip bomb that

1603
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 2: was And you can't see it because Karen already took

1604
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: it out here.

1605
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 3: Yes, I have Thank you, Sharane, Thank you baby.

1606
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 2: Lip's gonna be popping. We got this from all our

1607
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 2: girl Olivia and Chicago. Yes. And I don't know if

1608
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to read all this on the air or not,

1609
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: but I know she's talking about the kid and stuff.

1610
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm supposed to be putting this

1611
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 2: government out there.

1612
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: But thank you her.

1613
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: And you always send us one so you know we

1614
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Can't wait to take this picture and send

1615
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: y'alls back. I'm gonna go to the next session before

1616
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: we get cut off. We're coming right back, guys. I

1617
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 2: don't want to get cut off in the middle of

1618
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: reading us.

1619
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 3: We believe in protecting the kids.

1620
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, if she was cool with it, I don't

1621
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 2: know or not. And I don't want to err on

1622
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: the side of saying some ship and then you know,

1623
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: get hit up later like yeah, so we don't want

1624
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: our son's name out there, and like you know, like

1625
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:52,839
Speaker 2: it's talking about like what his activity is and school

1626
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,719
Speaker 2: and stuff. Are like I'm like, I'm not one hundred

1627
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: in I supposed to be saying all that stuff, especially

1628
01:24:58,360 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: after the Internet came for her that time.

1629
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: So we love your baby. Were out here for.

1630
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: Your protection, right, oh, I mean we know you're.

1631
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: Taking yourself, but we're still out here for your protection.

1632
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: We love, we try.

1633
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 2: I know Tristan won't be standing by the side of

1634
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: the lakes in Florida. I'll just put it that way.

1635
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: But that's just me, all right. It's uh, I'm a

1636
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 2: fund take that out, all right, God damn it? Right?

1637
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: All right, anyway, here we go. We got this one

1638
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 2: with is this a black Santa Claus? It was kind

1639
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: of blackish, but we might just be white, just with

1640
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:42,080
Speaker 2: a tan. It says, riding care, best of luck in

1641
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 2: the Z pod. Thanks for doing such great work from

1642
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: our family to yours. Jeff, Jack and Rihanna.

1643
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and uh it's.

1644
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: Always a zombie behind Santa.

1645
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,839
Speaker 3: Oh I say that, yes, oh you just not realizing

1646
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: that yes.

1647
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: No, saying about to get eight nobody to get that business,

1648
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: Sammy Xander would be so fucking scary, you know. I

1649
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: mean kids were dialing that motherfucker came up.

1650
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:08,839
Speaker 3: Come on, I want some gifts.

1651
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 2: Are we got this one? Look at these styles on

1652
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: these black women on this cover. Oh my god? Oh

1653
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: who sent this? This is a picture inside? Oh got

1654
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: the lights say this is dope. This is dope. It's

1655
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: from Angie. Oh, thank you. She says, Happy holidays, ex

1656
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 2: huggs and kisses from Angie Wookie Prince's left, and then

1657
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 2: she writes inside Rod and Carroen. I truly enjoyed another

1658
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 2: year of learning and laughing with tvg W two. I

1659
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,600
Speaker 2: too have been living in my best White Woman of

1660
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: Color life. I put some stamps in my past, in

1661
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: my past for it sip PSL and demanded the manager

1662
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: a time or two. TVGWT has been buzzing in my

1663
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: ear along those journeys. I know that twenty eighteen will

1664
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 2: be bigger, better for you both. My goal is to

1665
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 2: be at the next meet and greet and convention or convention. Uh,

1666
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 2: if by choice, if by chances in Charlotte point me

1667
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: to the craft fried right spot Raleigh, Uh that that

1668
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: ship sounds delicious.

1669
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 3: It is might go to day, might have to.

1670
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then oh, we had one more thing.

1671
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 2: This Now this was amazing. Now this just not as

1672
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 2: long as fuck, but this this is amazing. First of all,

1673
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: you guys, look at this wrapping paper.

1674
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 3: That's wrapping paper, y'all.

1675
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 2: That is Solange motherfucker. So and you open it up.

1676
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 3: And yeah, we hold on to that. We're gonna put

1677
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 3: up there with the cards.

1678
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: It's a magazine called Galla dem Gall dashed them and

1679
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: beautiful people and you guys can't see all of it,

1680
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: but it's it's so fucking beautiful inside it's so black. Yeah,

1681
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's amazing. And then we also have three

1682
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: cards that came with it, and they're numbered and they

1683
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 2: all have long messages in them.

1684
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: Yes, then we're gonna read it all, baby, because you

1685
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 3: took the time to write it.

1686
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,799
Speaker 2: One. This is the first one. Deer Rod and Karen

1687
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 2: hashtag a Christmas card thread.

1688
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 3: She linked it up. I met my for the limits,

1689
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 3: so I went to the next one. Yes, Ho ho

1690
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 3: ho with the black Santa clauds.

1691
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: It says, dear Rod and Karen, thank you so much

1692
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 2: for your amazing podcast. I've been listening and following for

1693
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 2: a couple of months and I found you through Safety

1694
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 2: pin Box. Out out the Safety pin Box. Yes, I

1695
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: live in the UK, and when Brexit referendum imploded and

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Speaker 2: suddenly all the racists feel empower felt yeah, feeling power

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01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: to stay being super blatant, I was like, what the fuck?

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01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: I realized I've been living in a bubble with no

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Speaker 2: comprehension of the depths and reach of white supremacy. I

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Speaker 2: went in uh search of info and found the incredible

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Speaker 2: galdm zine, a magnificent online in print zine run completely

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Speaker 2: by women and femal colors. And honestly, I think it

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Speaker 2: is the best thing ever and I hope you will

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Speaker 2: enjoy it as much as I do. Happy Holidays, Maximum Galdamn.

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Speaker 2: Power to the other best thing ever, which is your podcast,

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Speaker 2: also Safety pending Box. I'm allowed three best things in

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Speaker 2: my allowed three best things ever. Sure it's Christmas? Why

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Speaker 2: not any anyway. When t A M fan was Oh,

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Speaker 2: when Trump, she walked it all through. When Trump was

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Speaker 2: elected in the USA, I saw, keep in mind, it's

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Speaker 2: a thread to go to. This one says it's candles

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Speaker 2: on top, it says lit.

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Speaker 3: Yes, these cars as black as hell. Honey. I don't

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Speaker 3: know what you.

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Speaker 2: Got them, but thank you to UHFL kind of similar

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01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: thing of like lots of whites liberal being like what

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Speaker 2: the fuck and realize how bad things have been in

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Speaker 2: the USA and how much they not known that. Like

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Speaker 2: many left wing feminist types, I knit a pussy hat

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Speaker 2: and went own a solidarity protest in London. Uh to

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Speaker 2: read and discover only to read later later, and just

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01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: read and discover later how fraction fractions and marginalized and

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01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: unsisterly those marches felt to women of color. Let's see,

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Speaker 2: I think it says white women and many other groups

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Speaker 2: were ignored. Oh, I guess black women and many other

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01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: groups were ignored by white supremacist feminism. Sorry, I have

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01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: really veered away from the happy, happy holidays message here.

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01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 2: I will try to get back into the light anyway.

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01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 2: I realized, you know what, Actually, let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: When a white person realizes that they're feminism and activism

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01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 2: is slightly fucked up no matter how well intended, but

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01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 2: in many cases that are racist and doesn't leave spaces

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Speaker 2: for other people. That is a Christmas gift that is

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Speaker 2: still happy Holidays. I mean cause, I mean it's that

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Speaker 2: thing where I know certain people are sick of hearing

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Speaker 2: people talk about something d da da da. But I

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01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 2: think regardless of how people feel, there has to be

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Speaker 2: some sort of lack of a better term, awakening.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it has for a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of folks.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows everything.

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01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it needs to have. It needs to be

1743
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 2: people being like, oh I didn't notice thing I was participating.

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Speaker 2: Then it was kind of fucked up. It happens to

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Speaker 2: all of us.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to it for it to be presented

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01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 3: that way, but that's how you feel. So yeah, lot

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01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: of people don't do what you did. They double down

1749
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 3: and say is everybody else's fault but theirs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, like it's the right thing

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01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 2: to do. But I know there's a big culture of

1752
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: like no pats on the back, know this, that or the other.

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01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 2: But honestly, I feel better when I know more people

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Speaker 2: are paying attention correct and that you know, I think

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01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,080
Speaker 2: it's their responsibility to pay attention. They should have always

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01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: been paying attention. But that ain't life. No, that ain't life.

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Speaker 2: So it's easy to be the same way I felt

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01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: about the whole combat Jack thing. It's super easy to

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01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 2: be like you weren't born woke. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: that hasn't been my experience in my life, and people

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Speaker 2: have allowed me the grace and the room to grow

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Speaker 2: and the trust to hope that I can be better.

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Speaker 2: And I hope that you know, people are you know,

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Speaker 2: like like I said, I'm encouraged by that in everybody

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Speaker 2: when I see it. But yeah, I realize I have

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Speaker 2: much to learn and I want to build a less hard,

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Speaker 2: build a less harmful form of feminism. And if I

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Speaker 2: want to be a youthful ally in the fight for

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Speaker 2: black liberations, safety Paying Box is teaching me so much.

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Speaker 2: or and of course they led me to fire your

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Speaker 2: talking about what is a three heat hold on? Let

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Speaker 2: me go to the next thread for Okay, so this

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Speaker 2: is the last card. It's yes, queen, Yes, So I

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Speaker 2: got to see if I can put the context clues.

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Speaker 2: So listen to Karen talk about Oh, the retreat in

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Speaker 2: It made me realize how central it is for women

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Speaker 2: of color to have a safe space away from white women, microaggressions,

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Speaker 2: white supremacy, and white feminism. Yeah and low key black men.

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Speaker 2: I am trying, are trying all the all the time

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Speaker 2: to find ways of remembering that, and I messed up constantly.

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Speaker 2: But please know your podcast is a a source of inspiration,

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Speaker 2: hope and instruction as as uh. That's how white women

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Speaker 2: like me can try and be less harmful. Also, you

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Speaker 2: make me laugh so much. I want everyone to be

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Speaker 2: able to live their best life, and your podcast is

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Speaker 2: so good at shape at showing how I hope your

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Speaker 2: entire holidays are drenched in pumpkin spice lattes, maximum cocktails,

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Speaker 2: no Pully May burritos, extra sushi servants for Karen, and

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Speaker 2: no white people. Everything is everything in this what is

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Speaker 2: this pond apart from oh sorry, so on this everything

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Speaker 2: and this panel, I guess, apart from my words, was

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Speaker 2: made by and oh by a black a vibrant black

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Speaker 2: owned business here in the U. Oh so that's why

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Speaker 2: these cars so dope?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Cards?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay? Oh and I think they called the car's

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Speaker 2: panels there. I think that must be what it was. Okay,

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Speaker 2: made by vibrant black owned business here in the UK.

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Speaker 2: I haven't sent this in search of any cookies. Please

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Speaker 2: don't shout me out on the show. But it's too late.

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Speaker 2: affiliated with these companies. I just love their awesome products

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Speaker 2: and how they are changing representation here in the UK

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Speaker 2: and educating, inspiring and lifting up black women, which is

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Speaker 2: the new mission for twenty eighteen cast learn at the

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Speaker 2: Safety Pendbox. Hash had the best thing ever. Seriously, thank

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Speaker 2: you for your show. Happy holidays X from a very

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Speaker 2: avid UK fan. Oh and it's kaz Vari that's k

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Speaker 2: A z v A r e uh and on the

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Speaker 2: back it says k and my cas made it. Yo.

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Speaker 2: This is dope, This was dope.

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Speaker 3: You took the time to write that and give us

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Speaker 3: all this black ship. You gonna get it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I appreciate it. I think that's everything.

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Speaker 3: I think that so yo, God, we'll do it next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody that sent us stuff. Thanks everybody that

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Speaker 2: that that left us pos star reviews. Thanks to everyone

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Speaker 2: who wrote in, left comments, left voicemails, all that stuff

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Speaker 2: for the whole year. We really appreciate it. We still

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Speaker 2: have more shows to do before the years over, so

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Speaker 2: I know we have Jail Coved is gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the show Tuesday, so I'm looking forward to that me too.

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Speaker 2: So all right, guys, we'll talk to y'all later. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for your feedback. Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 2: Wo