1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody, John Middlecoff three 2 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: in our podcast, how are we doing? Hopefully everyone's doing great? 3 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Got a big show today. I do want to start. 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: I talked about this a little bit yesterday on the 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football Reaction podcast at the end, but I 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: want to dive deeper into it and listen, I was 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: wrong about something and I want to address it, and 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 1: it'll be in revolving around Bill Belichick and the failure 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: and the disaster that is currently North Carolina football. We 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: will definitely talk some quarterbacks, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, you know, 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of have a Baker Mayfield, Sam Darmal. We've just 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: seen a lot of resurrections around the league these last 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: several years, and I don't necessarily think it's a coincidence. 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: And then we will also discuss the the kickoffs and 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: the field goal kickers have dramatically changed the sport. Like 16 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 1: what we're witnessing now on a weekly basis is a 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: much different game because of the new kickoff rule and 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: these guys' ability to kick long field goals. Then football 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: was like three years ago. And then of course the 20 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: mail bag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: Instagram fire and those dms get your questions answered here 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: on the show and we will have a long mail 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: bag today as well. But that will be the game 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: plan today. So make sure you subscribe. If you listen 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: on Collins Feed, make sure you subscribe to three and 26 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate everyone that subscribes and listens. And if you 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: want to watch, we obviously got a YouTube channel. You 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: can go subscribe and watch all of our content up 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: there as well. We react, you know, this Eagle Giants 30 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: game Thursday night. We will be live right after the 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: game reacting, very very exciting, stive it as in football. 32 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I want to start with Belichick because I had mentioned 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: something a while back, and I had been pretty adamant 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: about this, and I was wrong, and I had simply 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: said that college football recruiting, the relationships don't mean anything anymore. 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: It's all about the money, whoever will pay you the most, 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: that's all that matters. In getting to know people, going 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: to dinner at their house, knowing their parents, interacting with 39 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: the circle of humans in their life doesn't matter. And 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: I was wrong, and I was thinking about this a 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: couple weeks ago when I flew out to New York. 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Remember in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, it's like 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: business travel is dead. No one will ever do face 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: to face interactions to do deals anymore. Everything's gonna be zoom, 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: everything's gonna be FaceTime, everything's gonna be over our computer. 46 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: And then over the last couple of years, business travels 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: booming and people that do business deals of any substance. 48 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, kind of like to get to know people. 49 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: I flew out to to help facilitate a deal that 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: was probably ninety eight percent done, but you know what, 51 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of important for both sides to see the people, 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: to talk with people and just get to know someone. 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: I was just with my one of my good childhood 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: friends who had his fortieth birthday at probably the boogiest 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: place in all of Napa, and a bunch of people 56 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: showed up, people I didn't know, and one of our 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: college buddies showed up. And he is currently in business 58 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: with Jordan Palmer, that is Carson's younger brother, who obviously 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: plays a big role still. You know coaches in the 60 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: off season, guys like Sam Darnold and Josh Allen, and 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: their business right now is thriving. He's doing really well. 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: And their relationship stems from high school. They've known each 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: other for over twenty five years. In relationships matter, And 64 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: I had a front row seat when I worked in 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: college football the coach Hill, Pat Hill, who had worked 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: for Belichick, who got hired at Fresno State, coming from 67 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and working for Bill Belichick and being 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the assistant offensive line coach where Kirk Farns was the 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: O line coach, and running scout team against Nick Saban 70 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: every day in practice for years. And I witness that 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: man do in home visits, do school visits for years 72 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and know his entire team, their family, their high school coaches, 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: their brothers and sisters. You know why that kind of matters. 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: You can say that I hate Ohio State kind of true. 75 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: I root against him. I do respect Ryan Day and 76 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: I have always said this. He takes recruiting very seriously. 77 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: His mentor Chip Kelly did not. He will openly say 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: like I hate recruiting, Well, then he can't really function 79 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: in college football. It's not the way it works. Like 80 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you just hate recruiting, well, do you hate the draft? 81 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like a basic element of the sport. Right, 82 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: this is how you acquire your players. Do you want 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: to go eat dinner at seventeen year old's homes four 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: months on end? Probably not? Hell, Deon Sanders doesn't even 85 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: do that. You know, Deon Sanders has never had a 86 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: home visit. Right. But I would say this about Dion 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Sanders and how he would differ from Belichick is Dan's 88 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: got a pretty big personality and I've seen him deal 89 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: with a lot of different people. I mean, granted just 90 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: on social media with his own team, like his relationship 91 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: from Travis Hunter to his sons, to like the little 92 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Mexican kicker. Like he's pretty good dealing with people. You 93 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: would say Dion's personality is a positive attribute. Belichick's personality 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: is a negative. No one's ever argued that his football 95 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: knowledge is an elite. Ask all the young offensive coaches 96 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: right now in the NFL McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, Kevin O'Connell 97 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: who played for him. They speak about him like he's 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: the football Jesus hell Andy Reid, who is somewhat his 99 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: peer in terms of an age group. If you got 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: him unfiltered talking about Bill Belichick, they have the utmost 101 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: respect for his ability to understand the entire landscape of 102 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: the game, offense, defense, special teams, schemes, team building at all. 103 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: But no one has ever confused Bill Belichick for caring 104 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: about others. And listen, I have no problem with that, right, 105 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: that is his All of our personalities are different, and 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: he gives no shits about anyone. Well, in the pros, 107 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: when you screw up, right, if the Arizona Cardinals, the 108 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: dude that dropped the ball at the goal line, if 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: they wanted to, they're not going to because their running 110 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: back situations kind of in shambles with James Connor going down, 111 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: they could cut them Monday morning and say, listen, you're 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: gone right just because you drop the ball in the 113 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: end zone. It happens all the time. You see guys, 114 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: especially as the season goes and teams lose in the NFL, 115 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: you will see so and so got cut, so and 116 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: so got released, and sometimes just personality don't want to 117 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: deal with you anymore. It's a cutthrow business. Why because 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: it's pro football. In college football is kind of morphed 119 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: into that. The nil all I hear about is the nil. Well, 120 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: it's not the nil because I'm not paying for your name, image, 121 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: and likeness. I'm just paying you to play for my team, 122 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: which I got no issue. It's why I'm on the 123 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: fence of like I don't see. I read an article 124 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: today that arch Manning makes six point eight million dollars. 125 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I was like, jeez, that's a lot. Hell, I heard 126 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: a story. I was listening to Brian Windhorse say the 127 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: kid at BYU, the basketball player makes seven million dollars. Now, 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: in basketball, it's a little different. These guys are one 129 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: and done. But in college arch Manning has been making 130 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: millions now for a couple of years. Well, the moment 131 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: you play and you don't get it done, you're not 132 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: going to continue to be my starter. But during the season, 133 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you don't see guys in college football just get cut. 134 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: And part of this big story with college football, or 135 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean with Belichick, has been he has no relationship 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: with any of his player's family with anything they got 137 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: going outside of football. Same thing with his son Steve, 138 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: who most guys on the team, even on his side 139 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of the ball, don't even have his number. Well in football, 140 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: right when these guys worked for the Patriots, it was 141 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: like whether Jason mccordy or Devin mccordy or Dante high Tower, 142 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and Belichick didn't need to know, his parents didn't need 143 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: to know, his girlfriend didn't really care. You either get 144 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: the job done or we will get rid of you. 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Remember when Jamie Collins started playing like shit and they're 146 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: like trading him. It was cutthroat, and no one was 147 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: more cutthroat than the Patriots. Well that's not really how 148 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: it works in college, even in this transactional time. Do 149 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you think that Kirby smart his starting lineup and guy, 150 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: especially that he recruited out of high school or even 151 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: the transfer portal guys, that he knows a decent amount 152 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: about that player. I'm not talking about strengths and weaknesses, 153 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: their ability on the field, but like their parents or 154 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: whoever is like the guiding mentor in their life. You 155 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: know why, because when that nineteen year old goes into 156 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: the tank, you kind of got to play, you know, 157 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: coach psychologists on the fly. You're not dealing with a 158 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: forty year old Tom Brady who has multiple kids for 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: multiple different women, who's been married for ten years, who 160 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, who is forty 161 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: freaking years old, or Rob Gronkowski who's thirty two years old, 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: or Julian Edelman, who's thirty four years old. You were 163 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: dealing with a nineteen or twenty year old whose insecurities 164 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: go up and down, you know, as fast as a 165 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: stock market. Right. We're human beings, we're young human beings. 166 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: We haven't experienced that much in life. And if you're 167 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: a college football player, most of your life, definitely in 168 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: high school was probably pretty good because you were the 169 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: star athlete and the guy getting all the chicks when 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: you were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Then you get 171 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: to college, you start losing, you start getting yelled at, 172 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: it's not great. Well, Belichick doesn't give a shit about 173 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: any of that, and we knew that he didn't care. 174 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: And I always thought, like, well, does that even matter anymore? Yeah, 175 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: it still kind of matters, because remember last year when 176 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: Ohio State won the championship, or the year before when 177 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: Jim Harboss team won the championship, And I remember there 178 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: was a viral video JJ McCarthy's pro day and JJ's 179 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: family were there, and he just started talking to JJ's mom, 180 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: and maybe it was Blake Korum's like dad or so 181 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: like he just he knew all these people intimately because 182 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: that's college football and it still is even in this 183 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: NIL era. I bet you Ryan Day because he recruited, 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: like you know, the quarterback and the safety that transferred 185 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: from Alabama from high school knows their families. That doesn't 186 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: mean you need to text them about playing time on 187 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, but it shows that, like, I know more 188 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: about you, because that's part of this deal. Because most 189 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: guys on your team, even at Alabama, Ohio State, and Oregon, 190 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: are not going to be NFL stars, and a programs 191 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: like North Carolina they definitely are not. So if I 192 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: don't get invested in as a player. The thing I 193 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: respect most about Pat Hill wasn't that he was one 194 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: of the trailblazers for smaller schools. I think he was 195 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: the first non power five million dollar coach. He pushed 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: so many small school guys that did not have offers 197 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: into the NFL. It was how much he cared about 198 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: his players and the guys that were gonna go to 199 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. But like their girlfriends, their wives, he gets 200 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: invited to their wedding. That's usually how it works. Hell, 201 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: look at Andy Reid. Do you know who's gonna be 202 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: there at the Travis Kelce Taylor Swift wedding, assuming he 203 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: can make it. It's not like during the draft Andy 204 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: freaking Reid. Do you think Belichick's getting invited to any 205 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: of these weddings, let alone like they're just using this 206 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: as a transaction machine, which I think a couple of 207 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: years ago we thought, well, this is college football, well 208 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: kind of. It still is a relationship based business, just 209 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: like the real world is. It's like, well, just zoom 210 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: this guy, Well how much here asking for? You need 211 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: an investment in your startup? You want that guy to 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: give you five hundred thousand dollars. You think just a 213 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: zoom's gonna get it done? Probably not. You might need 214 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: to hop on a bird fly, have dinner with them. Hell, 215 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: maybe spend a couple of days with them. That's the 216 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: way the real world works in college football. I bet 217 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: if we went to Kirby Smart, if we went to 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Day, if we went to Dan Lanning, Like, do 219 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: these guys still want to do home visits? Do these 220 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: guys there're gonna be days? Hell no, they don't, but 221 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: they know it's important and they know what matters. Like 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: do you think Dan Lanning knows Dante Morre's family knows 223 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: his parents' names. I would bet a million dollars right 224 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: now he does. Do you think Belichick has any fucking 225 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: clue about any of this stuff? No, And this is 226 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: where I thought Belichick would probably work because he's such 227 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: a good coach, And now looking at it, like, I 228 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: think the personality element kind of matters because recruiting, even 229 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: if money is involved, well, we know Belichick's not really 230 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: into offering a lot of money. That's never really been 231 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: hismo To think that he's just gonna outbid everybody on 232 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: these players all the time. That's probably not gonna be 233 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: his thing. Well, it's like, what about his relationships? What 234 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: about his personality? That is definitely not his thing. So 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: if the only thing you're hanging your hat on is like, 236 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, in twenty fifteen, we were down twenty eight 237 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: to three, well cool, Coach I was nine years old. 238 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't really remember that game. It's like, do you 239 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: remember when we have the undefeated team and we lost 240 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: to the Giants in the Super Bowl in two thousand 241 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: and seven or January two thousand and eight, Coach I 242 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: was two years old then, Like the age gap of 243 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: some of his success. You know, part of the reason 244 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots beating the Bills the other night was such 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: a big deal. It's like they had been really shitty 246 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: for a long time now, Like it's not just a 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: year now relative to the last twenty five years. Obviously 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: they had a good run. But for a kid that's 249 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: eighteen years old. Ten years ago, the kid was eight, 250 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty five, when Belichick and Brady were 251 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: in their second iteration of the dynasty, kid doesn't remember 252 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: anything like I think back to my childhood. Some of 253 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: my first memories are more like tennish. And maybe that's 254 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: because I'm forty years old now, forty one. Actually birthday yesterday, 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: No big deal. Not a big birthday guy, though. But 256 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: I just I think this thing's only going to get 257 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: uglier because I see it myself. I bet many of 258 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: you listen can relate, especially if you're over thirty or 259 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: thirty five or forty. Our personalities don't change that much, right, 260 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the way we're wired, the way we like to live 261 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: our life. I'm not saying we don't, especially if you 262 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: are an ambitious person not willing to adapt and willing 263 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: to professionally change. But the way you're wired, like how 264 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: you enjoy the party. I was just at over the 265 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: weekend one of my good buddies, his wife, she is 266 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: she likes to socialize and it gives her energy. You know, 267 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: I do it for two days and I'm like, I 268 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: am still tired. Four days later, I'm like, I'm exhausted. 269 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: She'll be at an event tonight or tomorrow and then 270 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: all weekend like it just it energizes her. And your 271 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: personality is something that kind of defines you, and you 272 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: have to figure out as you age how to professionally 273 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: dial it in so you can have the most success. 274 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: But you don't just become some crazy extroverted human. If 275 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: you're an introvert, Just like if you're an extroverted person, 276 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: it's really hard to lay low all the time. And 277 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: Belichick does not want to deal with a lot of people. Hell, 278 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: he was, you know, legendary for being a dick to 279 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: the guy that was paying him twenty fucking million dollars 280 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: a year. He wasn't he was well known in the 281 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: NFL circles. He wasn't even nice to the crafts one 282 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: individual that cut the checks for everything. And I've always 283 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of offended him. I do understand if you're Bill, like, listen, 284 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: should it be nice to Robert? Yes? But the kid like, 285 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't take Jonathan seriously if I'm Bill, 286 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: But like where gets around like, hey, you don't want 287 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: to deal with that guy. And now he goes to 288 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: a university where there are way more hands than the 289 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: cookie jar. You got boosters, you got boro regients, you 290 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: got presidents, you got athletic directors, you got kids parents 291 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: that kind of matter, right, I mean kids' parents. Even 292 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: in eighteen nineteen, they still rely on these people. They 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: talk to them all the time. And high school coaches 294 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: like think how many high school coaches For the last 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: twenty plus years, Kirby Smart isn't just on a first 296 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: name basis with but like legitimately knows a lot about 297 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: their life, has hung out with them, has spent time 298 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: with them, has brought them to his facility over the 299 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: years for clinics, for beers, had played golf with them. 300 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: Like intimate relationships, that shit matters. Yet you look at 301 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Belichick's relationships, It's like who who are his relationships? Hates 302 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: everyone of the Patriots. Now the Belichick boys follow them, 303 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: you know, look at the guys with Andy Reid. You know, 304 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: Matt Nagge gets fired by the Bears, goes right back, right. 305 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Steve Spagnola had worked from the Philly comes right back. 306 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: These guys swear by the guy, even the guys that 307 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: go on on their own. I'll never forget being at 308 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: the Combine one year and seeing John and Jim Harbaugh. 309 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: And this was I think John was probably a year 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: away from winning the Super Bowl and Jim was like 311 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: in his first year at this forty nine ers and 312 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: they were walking together and they looked inside our suite 313 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: and they said aby, and they lit up like Christmaster. 314 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: I remember thinking it was pretty cool. And they came 315 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: in and they just kind of shot the shit for 316 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: like thirty minutes while the workouts were going on, and 317 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: it's like, I, you know, I just think this thing's 318 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna be even a bigger disaster. And you'd be like, well, John, 319 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: everyone's kicking him while he's down, and it has nothing 320 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: to do with this team. This team is gonna suck. 321 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: We saw it against TCU. But I do think your 322 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: personality you can get by. Like Kyle Shanahan would have 323 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: no chance to recruit, Zero, wouldn't want to do it, 324 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: couldn't do it, couldn't even fake it, and so he does. 325 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm just a pro coach. He would not do well. 326 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: But you watch Steve Sarkisi, and you watch Ryan Day, 327 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: you watch Dan Lanning. Their personalities are a little bit different. 328 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 1: It's why we all agree. Like, you know, I think 329 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh could do both. I think Mike Tomlin could 330 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: do both. Not saying they want to, not even saying 331 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: that they have. They would could like it wouldn't even 332 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: interest them, but if they had to do it, they could. 333 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: Like It's easy to see Pete Carroll's personality. It's like, yeah, 334 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: I get it. I could see him walking right down 335 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: the street, you know, by the Bloods and the Crips 336 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: and Compton and sitting in a dude's house and landing 337 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: the recruit with a big smile. I mean, the stories 338 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: were legendary. I heard the same stories about Pat Hill 339 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: when they tried to recruit Malik Jackson and his brother 340 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: who ended up going to USC and then Tennessee and 341 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: then won a Super Bowl with Denver. He just like, hey, coach, 342 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: chill stand at the sidewalk, do not walk down this 343 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: street in South central La. He got out of the car. 344 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: He fucking just belined it, didn't give a shit, liked it, 345 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: enjoyed it because that was his personality. That's always been 346 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: a Pete Carroll thing. Clearly, I see it in Dan Lanning. 347 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: You know, I think Ryan de Sark, I think Lane's 348 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: become that your personality really matters. We're in college. It 349 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: just doesn't where in the pros. What matters being the 350 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: ability to influence the quarterback. And I was thinking about, 351 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, I love Baker Mayfield. I'm a big Oklahoma guy, 352 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: and early on my guy Drew Hill when he got 353 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: hired to Bob Stoops. You know, I think Baker was 354 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: like a year later and I watched every game Baker 355 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: played in college, and he's one of my favorite players 356 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: that I've seen over like twenty plus years, you know, 357 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: watching college football as an adult. Reggie Bush, Johnny Manziel, 358 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Now, the difference is like I that Baker 359 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: Mayfield was like an athletic Drew Brees when you watched 360 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: him in college, he dominated. Now looking back, his teams 361 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: were stacked, but he was. I mean, he's gotta be 362 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: one of the great Oklahoma players of all time. And 363 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: they have one of the more storied histories in all 364 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the college football. And obviously, you know, John Dorsey bought 365 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: in to not just the player but the personality, and 366 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: it took a while for it to come to fruition. 367 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: He had to fail, he had to you know, grow 368 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit. But like watching Baker Mayfield now, 369 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: like he was the number one overall pick for a reason. 370 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: The guy's a fucking player right now, you could argue 371 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Sam Donald had more physical attributes. He was a number 372 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: three overall pick. So watching these guys getting good situations, 373 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think Baker I just looked last night, 374 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: it was twelve to one. Today he's eight to one 375 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: to win the MVP. Sam Donald to me is like 376 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: he's not gonna win the MVP this year, but he's 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: a high end Pro Bowl level guy. It's like, yeah, 378 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: he's six foot four. I met him this year at 379 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: the at the Super Bowl. He's way bigger than you think. 380 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: His arms big and he can move. Like, yeah, it 381 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: kind of works. Now, you gotta be able to impart 382 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: a playing quarterback is more. You know, the attributes, all 383 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: that stuff matter, But how do you readefense is how 384 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: do you pross process, how do you handle the pocket? Like, 385 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: clearly those two guys have it, But looking back when 386 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: they were drafted, a lot of people thought they had it. 387 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: You know, people love Baker Mayfield coming out of college, 388 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: people love Sam Darno coming out of college. A couple 389 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: guys that to me didn't have their physical attributes, Daniel 390 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Jones and Mac Jones. I think most people that I 391 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: know would have thought like crazy over drafts for both 392 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones at six and Mac Jones at fifteen. But 393 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: like Daniel Jones was a legitimate, you know, top thirty 394 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: forty quarterback prospect. To me, Mac was a little bit 395 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: more quarterback inflation historically, but he was really good in college. 396 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: I'd have no problem taking him in the third round, right, 397 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: But you take a guy in the third round, he 398 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: could become your starter. Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott 399 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: like that level of guy, and I'm watching him now. 400 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: We all need help. Most human beings are not Peyton 401 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Manning or Lebron James, where if you coached them, if 402 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: they went to the best organization, if they went to 403 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the worst organization, it would not matter. They were going 404 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: to succeed. Most people are not that. Most people are 405 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: not Steve Jobs, right. Most people need someone in their 406 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: life to help them and be a catalyst moving forward, 407 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: especially young, right. And football is no different than any 408 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: of us in life. I owe a ton of my 409 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: professional success because Colin Coward a long time ago believed 410 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: in me. And now I'm in a position with this 411 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: company and these people behind the scenes, and so much 412 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: goes into it that is out of my control in 413 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: a positive way. But I can't do this on my own, 414 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: just like many of you listening, whether you own your 415 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: own company, whether you're successful and working for a company 416 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: like you're dependent on other people. Hell, we know personally, 417 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: I got married a year ago, I got a child 418 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: on the way, Like my life is dreamadically better with 419 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: someone in it because we can accomplish more the two 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: of us than I could as a single human being. Right. 421 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: Football is no different and most guys. Tom Brady benefited 422 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot from going to a place that turned out 423 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: to have one of the great defenses over the Internet era, 424 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: and a coach that listen just kind of shit on 425 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: him because he has no personality is an excellent pro coach. 426 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: I mean gonna go down as one of the great 427 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: coaches any sport ever. But like mac Jones and Daniel Jones, 428 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: they need people that believe in them, and they need 429 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: help around him, and they're very dependent on the play color. 430 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: Some guys like Lamar Jackson early in his career, very 431 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: dependent on the offense. Right now, Lamar Jackson can play 432 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: for anybody. You put Lamar Jackson on the Bengals and 433 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: they've started fucking rattling off wins with his eyes close, 434 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: assuming he his hamstring was healthy. Right. Mac Jones and 435 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones are not that now. Daniel Jones has more 436 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: physical skills, he's bigger, he's faster, and he's got a 437 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: bigger arm. But mac Jones pretty good. Like once upon 438 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: a time, Nick Saban said, I want you here, and 439 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: when Tua went down, Mac Jones came in and had 440 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of success and obviously the next year won 441 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: his championship and I was looking today they are combined 442 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: seven to one in twenty twenty five, the forty nine 443 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: ers have won three games with mac Jones. Daniel Jones 444 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: is four and one right now, is the starter and 445 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: he is going to be a lifeline and get extensions 446 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: for the head coach and the general manager. They were 447 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: going to get fired a couple months ago, and now 448 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: they are going to get extensions assuming he stays healthy. 449 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: If he stays healthy, they're winning I don't know, eleven, twelve, 450 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: thirteen games, Like they're good and he's good. And he 451 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: needed Shane Stiken, just like Mac Jones needed Kyle Shanahan 452 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: because those guys make life easier. They can get you 453 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: in position. I saw this video that went viral of 454 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Ben Jones, the former center for the Titans, and he 455 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: was talking about in twenty seventeen, when Terry Rubisky, longtime 456 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: you know wide receiver coach, been a coordinator a couple times, 457 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: said like Terry wouldn't even call plays. He would just 458 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: like give you the game plan and then you would 459 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: just like sometimes in like the second half or in 460 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: a two minute situation, he would just be like, go cook, 461 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: like we got like a second year quarterback here, and 462 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: Ben Jones and Mariota would just kind of on the fly, 463 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: be like calling plays in the huddle together. And back 464 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: when Kevin O'Connell whatever six months ago said more teams 465 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: fail quarterbacks, then quarterbacks fail team, and you see stuff 466 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: like that you're like Jesus, imagine getting these guys that 467 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: are young and a coach not even helping them out. 468 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: And I've always said this, you know, the NFL, especially 469 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: now it's Wall Street on grass, there's a position coaches 470 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: make nine hundred grand. Whenever you get a lot of 471 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: money involved, you get a lot of scam artists. The 472 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: amount of people in scouting, uh in coaching that are 473 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: doing it because it's a high profile, high paying job 474 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: has never, you know, been more prevalent than it was, 475 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Like didn't pay anything in the eighties. It wasn't as 476 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: glamorous of a job. So if you were coaching, like 477 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: when Belichack and Coach Reid and Pete Carroll, like when 478 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: they got into sport, it was for the love of football, 479 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: which is honestly refreshing. I think about some of the 480 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: younger guys, especially the offensive coaches, like it feels like 481 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: they're junkies. Obviously they're all highly paid, you know, Ben Johnson, 482 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,959 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, Lafloor, McVeigh, Kyle, but it's like these guys, 483 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: these cats would have coached in the eighties and seventies 484 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: when it wasn't very you know, making much money. And 485 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: then there are some guys like this guy's just doing 486 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: it because it's football, make high six figures or seven figures, 487 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: but they're scam artists. You know, this guy has no business. 488 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: And I hear stories in the scouting community, you know, 489 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: guys trying to work their way up just because they 490 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: want to be doing press conferences, they want to be famous, 491 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: they want to make a lot of money that they 492 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: kind of skip steps and you know, don't actually they're 493 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: not in it for the right reasons. And I think 494 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: the one thing you see with Mac Jones and Daniel 495 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: Jones is sometimes when you get thrown a lifeline and 496 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: you get into a place where someone believes in you. 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: And I've said this for a long time, when you're 498 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: a younger person and Daniel Zones, I think is like 499 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: they're both you know, late twenties, but that's still pretty 500 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: young for dudes. You know, women are way more mature 501 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: than us. Help. My wife is seven years younger than me. 502 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: She is dramatically more emotionally buttoned up than myself. She 503 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: is way more mature at the same age than I 504 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: was in my early thirties. It's not even close. And 505 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: having people in your life that are successful to like 506 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: Shane Steichen is an excellent offensive coordinator. Kyle Shanahan, his 507 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. So when these guys go, I 508 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: want you around. Look at Sam Donald's when his career 509 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: clearly changed for the better, you can say Baker Mayfield too. 510 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: Who are the two guys that wanted Sam and wanted Baker. 511 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: Sean McVay claimed him, and Kyle Shanahan signed Sam Donald 512 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: and their careers ever since have been like rocket ships 513 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: right up to the moon. You put those two in 514 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Carolina with Matt Ruhle, who's completely over his head as 515 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: an NFL coach, with a GM that has no clue 516 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,479 Speaker 1: what he's doing, and they look like scrubs, and then 517 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: you get him out and you go got Baker Mayfield 518 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: might win the MVP, and Sam Darnold is one of 519 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: the great stories like I ever remember, right, But you know, 520 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: maybe as the Panthers and the Jets, who are a 521 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: fucking joke. And I say this like I'm a huge 522 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: John Spidech guy. I hope he wins the Super Bowl 523 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: in his career as a GM. I have nothing but 524 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: admiration for Pete Carroll, but you're seeing those two guys 525 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: go to a franchise like that franchise loses a lot. 526 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: You know, Google the last twenty five years with the Raiders. 527 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: It's not something that's easy for people to overcome. Right, 528 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: you go to the Jets. What we witnessed Aaron Glenn 529 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: help Dan Campbell do these last couple of years in 530 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: Detroit was one of the great accomplishments we've ever seen 531 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: in football. The Detroit Lions are now a powerhouse. Imagine 532 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: telling someone that ten years ago. Listen, you're not gonna 533 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: believe me, but the Detroit Lions are a powerhouse. Hell 534 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: if I would have told people in the nineties or 535 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: the eighties or the early two thousands, you know that 536 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors are gonna be probably the Lakers 537 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: equal in popularity and just dominance. Even no chance. That 538 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: shows you the power of Steph Curry. Right, He's a 539 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: transcendent human being. And that's even if like Pete Carroll's 540 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: proven to be transcendent changed USC they went through the 541 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: greatest stretch in modern program history. But the Seattle Seahawks 542 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: became a jugger. Not no chance that happened. And he 543 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: goes to Raiders. It's like, shit, is he gonna quit? 544 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: You know? Is this gonna drive him back to retirement? 545 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: So I just think it's really really cool when guys 546 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: you know that probably have a little less talent than 547 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: some just getting the right spot and see them flourish. 548 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: And I also think you see, you know when the 549 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: story of Shador miming the other day, you know what 550 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: we never saw is any dude on Cleveland kind of 551 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: come out, even like an anonymous player going, you know, 552 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: shoe Door's getting fucked. He should one hundred percent be 553 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: the starter. Never heard that. I'll never forget. When I 554 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: was around the forty nine ers a lot, do you 555 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: know what, You didn't hear much positive talk about Trey Lance? 556 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Why because all the players knew he wasn't that good. 557 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: Nothing against him personally, but they knew he couldn't really play, 558 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: and players know and coaches know, and then eventually you 559 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: just got to do it. And you know what Mac 560 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Jones has done so far of the season, he saved 561 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: the season. If they would have had a bad backup, 562 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: if they would have had a guy that is not 563 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: probably a starter in the NFL, the forty nine ers 564 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: would be like one and four, we'd be talking about 565 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan having back to back shitty seasons, like is 566 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: he legitimately on the hot seat? Is this franchise a 567 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: current disaster? Now instead they get Mac Jones, who's broke. 568 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: I think they're own six touchdowns so far this season. 569 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: We talked about the Colts. Their owner has a headset 570 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: on the sideline. It's like she wants to know, like, 571 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna fire these guys, I better feel really 572 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: confident about it. Now she's sitting there on the sideline 573 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: and just watching touchdowns and forty point blowouts. She's like, 574 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: this is fucking incredible. Joe Flacco, he was traded today 575 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. My overall take is he's got no chance. 576 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: He is probably the least mobile of any guy that 577 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: can be a starter in the NFL, Like right up 578 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: there with Kirk Cousins. Can't move at all, right, but 579 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: he's not a very good player anymore, and he's going 580 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: to a team with a horrendous offensive line. Horrendous offensive line. 581 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Now I would have been like, well, why can't you 582 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: trade for like a younger, more mobile player, and who knows, 583 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: maybe you just get a little lightning in the bottle, 584 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: kind of like last year when the Packers traded for 585 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: Malik Willis, were like, idiots, what are they doing? Then 586 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: he saw Milik Willis play, You're like, oh, not terrible? 587 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: Like why I would much rather do something like that 588 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: than trade for Joe Flacco, a guy in your division 589 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: who again incredible career, seems like a fucking awesome dude, 590 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: and teammate can't move in You're off defensive line is 591 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: like me and you and three other guys blocking, He's 592 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: gotta get killed. Jake Browning and Joe Burrow are dramatically 593 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: better athletes, and they're getting mollywoffed on a weekly basis. 594 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, 595 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. 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This was last 624 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: week for the first time since two thousand and three. 625 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: And we talked about this last week with the kicking balls, 626 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: that the kickers are now allowed to have all week 627 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,479 Speaker 1: long instead of just an hour before the game, so 628 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: they can doctor the balls, you know, like the you know, 629 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: the Brady Deflaategate thing was you only got to deal 630 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: with the balls whatever the allotted time was pregame right, Well, 631 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: same thing with the kickers. You had an hour. Well 632 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: now you have all week long and you pick and 633 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: choose what balls you want to bring to the game. 634 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: And it's not really even arguable if you've been watching 635 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: football for ten, twenty thirty forty years, the sixty is 636 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: the new fifty, and honestly, like sixty five's the old fifty. 637 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are draining kicks from so deep 638 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: it's stupid. I mean, when you watch a sixty yard 639 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: field goal go in, how many times do you go, God, 640 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: that would have been good for like four or five 641 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: more yards. It's happening all the time. It wasn't that 642 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: long ago. When I was a kid, a fifty yard 643 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: field goal was a bomb. Teams would all the time 644 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: punt instead of kicking a fifty yard field goal. So 645 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: that has dramatically changed the math because we saw it 646 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA. The three point shot had been around 647 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: for decades, but more and more people were shooting them 648 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 1: at a high clip, and more and more teams emphasized 649 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: it and put guys that never shot three pointers. They 650 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: usually played down by the basket outside the three point line. 651 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: So now you see these crazy comebacks in basketball. I 652 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: used to gamble on basketball all the time when I 653 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: was in radio because I used to hammer the over 654 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: for the KD. Russ Westbrook, OKC. They would score so 655 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: many points their individual team overs the game overs, and 656 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: I just remember, like this is cake and them covering 657 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: the spread against random teams. That they were really good 658 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: for a couple of year period time, right before he 659 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: came to the Warriors. But the same thing with the Warriors. 660 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: They would destroy people. But now you can have a 661 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: twenty point game and all of a sudden you're not 662 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: really paying attention. The team hits like four to threes, 663 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's seven eight points right. Well, 664 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: on football, and we noticed this on Monday Night football, 665 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: you are much more one. You're not that far away 666 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: from field goal range just in general, if you have 667 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: sixty plus yard range. But this new kickoff rule has 668 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: dramatically changed the sport. We saw Harrison Butker couldn't just 669 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: kick it out of the end zone. Why because he 670 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: didn't want them to start at thirty five. So we 671 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: tried to have his cake and eat it too. He 672 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: tried to directionally pin them, and clearly they had probably 673 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: worked on it so they could tackle the guy withinside 674 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: the twenty five. But we see this happen all weekend 675 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: long when you try to do the pins right, almost 676 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: like a punt. Well, at a punt, if it goes 677 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: out of bounds at the two yard line, who cares well? 678 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: In the NFL, if it goes out of bounds on 679 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: the kickoff, you're starting at the forty yard line. So 680 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs go up four points, and then when they 681 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: kick off, the Jacks start at the forty fucking yard line, 682 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: and then they sack them essentially twice. Well, imagine if 683 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 1: they had just back in the day kicked the ball 684 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: through the end zone, they would have started the twenty 685 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: yard line. So even if he hits the forty yard 686 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: bomb on third and seven at the twenty three, they're 687 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: still at the thirty eight or forty yard they still 688 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: got a while to go. Instead he hits that starting 689 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: at the forty three yard line, they're basically in the 690 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: red zone. I do think the teams and listen. I'm 691 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: on board with the kicking changes. It is undeniably made 692 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: the game more entertaining. But a little like the three 693 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: point shot, like it's kind of fake, you know. You 694 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 1: know these comebacks, the ability if you've got thirty seconds 695 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: left and you're down a touchdown, well they kick it 696 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: out of bounds. You know, boom, I'm at the forty 697 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm one play away from being at the other forty 698 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: and I'm well within Hail marriat distance. Before if you 699 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: had thirty seconds left, you're probably gonna start lateraling it 700 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: three plays in because you're gonna have to go eighty yards. 701 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna have no shot. And if you're down a 702 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: touch or less than a field goal, you have a 703 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: very good chance to either tie the game or win 704 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: the game. So I do think Roger Goodell will say 705 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: this is unequivocally working, like there's no denying it. From 706 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: an entertainment standpoint. Then I think there would be people 707 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: like old school people. They probably don't like it because 708 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: they feel like we're kind of manipulating all this. You know, 709 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: before I would say the Chiefs win that game because 710 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: Trayner Lawrence in two minutes isn't going eighty yards. But 711 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: if you only has to go sixty, if you had 712 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,959 Speaker 1: a forty three yard play, well shit, you've just made 713 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: up seventy five eighty percent of the yards you gotta go. 714 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't necessarily have a take. I'm entertained 715 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: by it, but I do think it's a just dramatically 716 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: different sport with this new kickoff rule and with the 717 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: kickers being able to doctor the balls then we have 718 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: ever witnessed, and the comebacks, the more points a little 719 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: more difficult to gamble on. You know, before, if you 720 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: had a three point lead with under forty five seconds 721 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: and they got no timeout, it's like there's no chance 722 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: they're getting in the field goal range. Now it's like 723 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: even if they start at thirty five, they're two plays away. 724 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: They're kickers in range, kickers in range with ease. Hell, 725 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: they're thinking like touchdown, let alone field goal. Okay, it's 726 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: that time of the day. It's actually just mailback time. 727 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. 728 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: Fire in those dms and get your questions answered here 729 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: on the show. Do you believe that Joe Flacco can 730 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: keep us in the mix until Joey B comes back? 731 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: I do not. I think you guys are completely screwed. 732 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: I would rather have for your team. I would rather 733 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: have Jake Browning than Joe Flacco. Ja. Joe Flacco cannot 734 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: move and your offensive line can't block, So you have 735 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: a guy who is a statue back there who is 736 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: not gonna have much time. You know, one thing with 737 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: Burrow and Browning, you know there has to be some mobility, 738 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: right I'm not looking Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson here, but 739 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: you have to be able to keep plays alive with 740 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: your legs and he cannot. I think the Flacco magic 741 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: of a couple of years ago in Cleveland was pretty cool, 742 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: but those that was a one time deal. This is over. 743 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: Do the Steelers have a defensive coordinator problem. I don't 744 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: think Austin is horrible, but he has no ability to 745 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: make adjustments. The last four or five years, we've had 746 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: great talent and some horrible defensive results. James games like 747 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: the Jets scoring thirty two this year, or like in 748 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: the PA last few seasons that made Zach Wilson and 749 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Will Levis look great. When can we play based defense 750 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: and everything goes to plan, it looks good. But I 751 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: don't get why the run defense specifically isn't working. I 752 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: never see real adjustments being made. Letting Brian Flores walk 753 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 1: and not promoting him to DC when we had him 754 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: was a huge, huge mistake. I wanted to bring up 755 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: your guys schedule. I think sometimes in like the Flora situation, 756 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: it's easy to say that. I mean, it wasn't that 757 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: long ago Trell Austin was viewed as like a hot 758 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: coaching candidate. Listen, the division I think is over. If 759 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,479 Speaker 1: the Ravens lose this week and they're one to five, 760 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: they would be have eleven games left to get to 761 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: get to ten wins. They would have to go nine 762 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: and two to get to nine wins, they'd have to 763 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: go eight and three like they're not doing that. The 764 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: Browns and the Bengals stink like you guys are kind 765 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: of in the driver's seat. So you get the Browns 766 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,839 Speaker 1: this week, should win. Then you get the Bengals, should win. 767 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: Then you get the Packers, Colts some tougher games. Then 768 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: you go to the Chargers, Bengals again. At the Bears, Bills, 769 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens they're in shambles, the Dolphins, the Browns again. 770 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Steelers are winning this division 771 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: at like ten and seven, you'll be fine. Now, to me, 772 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: your defense comes down to two things. Pass rush number one. 773 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: If TJ is gonna dominate and he's looked excellent these 774 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, and other guys around him play 775 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: at a high level, your defense gonna be solid because 776 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 1: if you give a good pass rush to a competent 777 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, team's gonna be good. And then these corners 778 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey has a good season, you're gonna be okay. 779 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: But I do think it's easy to play the Brian 780 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: Flores game. They weren't gonna fire. Torell Austin for Brian 781 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: Floris at the time, not to take no question, just 782 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: a thought. I said to my coworker today. The James 783 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:15,720 Speaker 1: Franklin is the college Mike Tomlin great during the regular season, 784 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: but anytime they play real team or get to the playoffs, 785 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: the rails fall off. Mike Tommins won a lot of 786 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: big games in the regular season and in the playoffs. 787 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't won a playoff game in a while, but 788 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: historically he's won some playoff games, won Super Bowl. Comparing 789 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 1: James Franklin to Mike Tomlin is not fair to Mike Tomlin. 790 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of funny because I think this current version 791 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 1: feels a little James Franklin. He but Mike tomins resume 792 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: speaks for herself. James Franklin's never won a big game, 793 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 1: never worst franchise decision Vikings letting Donald go or the 794 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: forty nine ers giving Purty over fifty million dollars a year. 795 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: It's got to be Donald because you could have just 796 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: had Donald with Addison, with Justin Jefferson with Hawkinson for 797 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,359 Speaker 1: years to come, and your backup could have been JJ 798 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: McCarthy and maybe is a three year deal, and you 799 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: treat JJ McCarthy like Aaron Rodgers, he sits for three years. 800 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: To me, Purdy like earned the contract. He was a 801 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: really good player. Now he's injured and the forty nine 802 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: or somehow find backup quarterbacks that can play always. But 803 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna not pay him. They just weren't. I mean, 804 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: they talk about paid Purdy years ago. I love the pod. 805 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for the entertainment. Where does Daniel Hunter Danielle Hunter? 806 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why call him Danielle Daneil Hunter rank 807 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: in the top defensive players in the league. Ever since 808 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: he joined the Texans, they've had a top five defense. 809 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,399 Speaker 1: It seems no one on the networks really mentions his name, 810 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: and they bring up the best of the best. The 811 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: man is only thirty with a hundred sacks. I remember 812 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: when I was doing radio, I got to know a 813 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys on the Raiders staff because I was 814 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: going to all the Raider games, and I got to 815 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: know John d. Philippo pretty well. He was the quarterback 816 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: coach for the Raiders with Dennis Allen, and then he 817 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: went on to the Eagles, and then he became the 818 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: OC for the Vikings for a couple of years with 819 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and I remember texting him in his first 820 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: training camp. He's like, this is one of the biggest 821 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: freaks I've ever seen. He said, who He said, Hunter, 822 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: he is a dominant, dominant player. That was the first 823 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: time kind of came on my radar. That would have 824 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: been probably twenty eighteen range I would guess, Yeah. I mean, 825 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: he's just a freak show. I mean, they gave him 826 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: two years, fifty million dollars guaranteed it, basically every penny 827 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: for a reason. He's a monster, really good player. I 828 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: think part of it is, you know, we don't spend 829 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: much time talking about the Houston Texans. We just don't 830 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 1: unless they're really really good. But yeah, he's a badass. 831 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you put him with Will Anderson and their 832 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: dbs and Demico dialing up the defense, good defense. I 833 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: know you're not the biggest soccer fan in the world, 834 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: but with tickets going on sale this past week, I 835 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: wanted to ask if you're looking forward to the tournament, 836 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: given that it's across North America, and if there's any 837 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: players teams you'd want to get tickets to see in 838 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: the Bay or it's so fi Now I think I'm 839 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a watched the World Cup on TV game. 840 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: You know it's cool, it's coming here. It's gonna be 841 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: bad ass, gonna be a massive event. But I think 842 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: your boy is just gonna enjoy it on television. Here's 843 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: what I know. I am not, and I repeat, I 844 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: am not gonna get excited for our team. I do 845 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: not plan on us advancing. I plan on everyone complaining 846 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: after we lose a game that we should have won, 847 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: and then be winning a game that we shouldn't win 848 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: and end up tying it or losing it. Like my 849 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,240 Speaker 1: expectations for our team. We do this every four years. 850 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm just not buying into it. I'll never forget. I've 851 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: told this story before the World Cup that would have 852 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: been twenty ten, I think was in Brazil and the 853 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: American team stopped off to play a like a friendly 854 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: at the Link and I was downstairs working out, and 855 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: they came to practice at our practice facility and I 856 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 1: was actually outside like running some gassers or something back 857 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: in my skinny days, and I just remember the team 858 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: doing a warm up basically around our fields, and that 859 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 1: they were like right next to me, and the only 860 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: guy I remember thinking like Tim Howard looked a part 861 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: the goalie, but the rest of the players, it's like, 862 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: we're so small, and that was you know, Landon, Donovan Dempsey, 863 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: some of those guys. But I just remember whenever we 864 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: watched some of these other teams, and I understand size 865 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: does a betteran Sorry, I get it, MESSI small, but 866 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: it does feel like some of these teams have more 867 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 1: blue chippers just athletic body types than us, and clearly 868 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: we're just not as good. But I'm done. I'm done 869 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: even pretending to get excited. I'll root for the when 870 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: we're playing, but my expectations for Team USA are zilch. 871 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: They do not exist. Everyone always complains like this was no, 872 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: this was not gonna be the year. We don't care 873 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: about soccer enough here. We care about football, We care 874 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: about a lot of sports, soccer on the importance of 875 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: our country. If it was more important, we'd be better, period, 876 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: point blank. Industry. I'm not sure why these teams keep 877 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: trying to pooch kick the kickoffs late in the fourth quarter. 878 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,720 Speaker 1: I think the risk reward really flops flips late games. 879 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: I've watched Seattle basically win a game because of a 880 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: bad pooch kick, which set them up for a field 881 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: goal with not much time left. I watched the Niners 882 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: last night. The Rams kicker Pooch kicked the ball in 883 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: overtime and it didn't make it to the landing zone, 884 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: meaning you start at the forty. Poor special teams coaching 885 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter. Why not just keep kicking 886 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: it deep in those situations because if you kick it 887 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: deep and you fly the landing zone into the end zone, 888 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: they will start at the thirty five. So you're kind 889 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: of getting greedy. You're hoping if you poochkick it correctly 890 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: that you will tackle them somewhere between the twenty and 891 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: twenty five and ten yards late in a game, especially 892 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: if they don't have timeouts, is a huge difference. But 893 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: you could argue the risk first reward. If you fuck 894 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: up like Butker did, like the Rams did, and I 895 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,760 Speaker 1: give you the ball at the forty, that is a massive, 896 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: massive penalty for a screw up. It's like a poorly 897 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: thrown ball getting me fifty yards of pass interference. It's 898 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: pretty devastating. But I think it's hard for a coach 899 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: to go, yeah, just kick it through the end zone. 900 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: Start at the thirty five so I think there everyone's 901 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: still feeling this out. I don't think there's a right 902 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: or wrong way to do it, because if your pooch 903 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: kits kick works, you feel pretty good about it. A 904 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, I listened to your Sunday Night podcast 905 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: with Coward. The whole time you spoke with a very 906 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: strong lisp. I listened to your podcast almost daily. I've 907 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: never heard you speak like this was the glitch in 908 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 1: the matrix? Did you lose a bet with Colin? Or 909 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 1: what are what's to explain it? We have a video 910 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: and audio team at the volume, and the audio that 911 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm currently recording gets sent off to my guy, Adam. 912 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: He is a an audio wizard and no different with Colin. 913 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: So the raw audio that I send him that I'm 914 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: recording on like garage band from my computer, gets put 915 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: through programs to make like the echo in my room 916 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: and just any sort of sounds kind of dissipate, so 917 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: when you listen ideally it's really high quality. Now, I 918 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: got high quality equipment and you know, sound modifiers in 919 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 1: front of me, but this is not a studio. Now, 920 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm building a studio right now for my backyard. But 921 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 1: even then, like this is not gonna be like Taylor 922 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: Swift recording an album in a legitimate music studio or 923 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: radio studio. Right, So we have a bunch of programs 924 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: that deal with everything from video to audio, and a 925 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: button got pressed. I got so many DM saying John, 926 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: did you drink pretty heavily? John? Did you have a 927 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: tooth removed? What is wrong with you? And after like 928 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: seven of those, I went and listened. I'm like, what 929 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: are these people talking about? And something like I think 930 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: in the program. The way it was explained to me 931 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: is one of the attributes of the audio program is 932 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: so like hard S's and listen. I screw up words 933 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 1: all the time. I try to say, I think extravaganza 934 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: the other night, and that word did not come out 935 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: of my mouth. So that there are gonna be things 936 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: that you can't fix, but there are, you know, things 937 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: that just make the audio quality better. But I think 938 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: a button was pressed and it did something with anything 939 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: that involved an s and made it sound insane, but 940 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: it was funny. I mean it will ultimately, but I 941 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: was not drunk. I didn't develop a list overnight. But 942 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: it's programs. The amount of stuff that goes on behind 943 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 1: the scenes with all this stuff is pretty crazy. Honestly, 944 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 1: I didn't even really, I think, grasp that until that 945 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: moment happened, and then I had it explain to me, Oh, 946 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: that's cool. What is your opinion of Justin Fields. Does 947 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: he have the potential like a Baker or a Daniel Jones, 948 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,640 Speaker 1: to where he could manage a team and bring them 949 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: to a championship with the right pieces around him. I'm 950 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: a Michigan State fan, so I have no loyalty to him, 951 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like people aren't seeing the improvements he 952 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: has made with bad franchises and defensive coaches. Also f 953 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals for screwing over Burrow and Jake Browning by 954 00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: trading for Flacco. I would not. I would say, listen, 955 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones can play this well, then yeah, maybe Fields. 956 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: But I would not compare Baker Mayfield to Justin Fields. 957 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: He's a dramatically better natural passer of the ball, natural 958 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: feel for the pocket. He's a dramatically better player. But 959 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: when you see someone like Daniel Jones resurrect his career, 960 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 1: you would say, you know, Fields to me, has been 961 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: really impressive off the field with the Bear situation, with 962 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: obviously the Steeler situation. The Jets are a joke, So 963 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: like my expectations for his play aren't great though, like 964 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960 Speaker 1: I would say, Justin Fields has not been a very 965 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: good NFL quarterback most of his career. He's an excellent runner, 966 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: but when it comes to passing the ball, he struggles. 967 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: He has a big arm, and listen, I was wrong. 968 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 1: I loved him coming out. I thought you could make 969 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: the argument that he was a better prospect, or more 970 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 1: intriguing prospect than Trevor Lawrence. And I had buddies in 971 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: the league. They were like, you're on cocaine. I'm like, no, 972 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: I just I just like this guy. I think his 973 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: attributes are better. And I'm not the biggest Trevor Lawrence guy, 974 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: but he's he's a more natural player. And I wouldn't 975 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: even call Trevor Lawrence the most like instinctive natural player 976 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: relative to his talents. But Fields, there's just like a 977 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: lack of rhythm and feel to this to the game. 978 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: And at quarterback, when you lack the field and rhythm 979 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: to passing is it's hard to play. I mean, the 980 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: stat that went viral of Justin Fields is like I 981 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 1: think he's like, oh, In twenty five when someone scores 982 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 1: Let me just bring this up, Justin Fields is oh 983 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: and twenty six as a starter when the opponent scores 984 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: twenty one points. That's that's an insane stat. It'd be 985 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 1: one thing if it's like he's all in twenty six 986 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: when they score forty points, Like, yeah, he's playing on 987 00:53:53,320 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: terrible teams. Twenty one points. So it's nice way of 988 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: saying as a starting quarterback, I'm out now. Daniel Jones 989 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: Like they got him for fourteen million dollars? What I 990 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: paid Justin Fields one year? Ten million dollars? Sure, they 991 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: gave him two years forty million dollars, thirty million guaranteed. 992 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: I was like, that's that felt like a little pricey 993 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: relative the way he played. I would have said the 994 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 1: Colts would have been insane if they would have given 995 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones that contract. Or what's it gonna take for 996 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles to pull the trigger and fire Patula to 997 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: prevent another BJ situation? I said, BJ's Brian Johnson. You 998 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: think Nick still believes in his buddy? My fear is 999 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: the offensive talent the roster will delay an inevitable firing. 1000 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: I do think sometimes Thursday night games whether you're an 1001 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: elite team or a bad team, can just be weird, 1002 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: especially as the season goes on. You're tired, quick turnaround coaches, 1003 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: can't sleep. It's just the games could be really wacky. 1004 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 1: So like, if the Eagles in a perfect world had 1005 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: the number one offense in the league right now, it 1006 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me at all if they played this Giant's 1007 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 1: team and won, like fifteen to ten Thursday night, You're tired, 1008 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: road game, very believable. But if I tell you right 1009 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: now they win this game fifteen to ten on prime 1010 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,760 Speaker 1: time with everyone watching, it's it's only going to get louder. 1011 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: And I don't know the guy personally, but it's a 1012 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: tough place to be with the expectations, with the amount 1013 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: of talent on the offense, I mean, it's immense with 1014 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback who can be just a little fickle. I mean, 1015 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,720 Speaker 1: he's one of the more bizarre players in the league history. 1016 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 1: He really is, because I don't know, I just don't 1017 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: ever remember a guy quite like Jalen Hurts, where it's 1018 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: like you just ask a random guy, You're like, is 1019 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: he a really good player? Was like, he's done some 1020 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: really good things. He has a lot of talent, but 1021 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: like you can to watch him on games, we're like, 1022 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 1: this guy's terrible. But is it like the coordinator. I 1023 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I've seen him with good coordinators have bad 1024 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 1: games too, But then he's had great games in the 1025 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, So I don't I don't know one thing 1026 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: I think he hesitates to do. He did a little 1027 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: more last year because remember two years ago he didn't 1028 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: do it and he was kind of banged up. Is 1029 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: like it an't he should run more. He's way more 1030 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: accomplished than bo Nicks. But Tony Romo was talking about 1031 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: this in the Bronco game. I guess they were playing 1032 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles, So if you're an Egle fan, you were 1033 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: watching the game too. It's like, Boat, just take off. 1034 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: Every once in a while. It's like getting the free 1035 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,240 Speaker 1: throw line. As a basketball player, it's like I'm over 1036 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: nine from deep. Well, yeah, get an easy basket, get 1037 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 1: to the hole, get fouled, see a couple hit the net. 1038 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,720 Speaker 1: This isn't that fucking complicated. It's like, Jalen, just take off, Boat, 1039 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: just take off. If you're if you're struggling a little bit, 1040 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: just game ten yards. Mahomes and Josh Allen do it 1041 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:59,319 Speaker 1: all the time, and they're not even trying to get 1042 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: a rhythm. They're just trying to gain you yards. But 1043 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: they just like, go utilize your feet. More Browns fan 1044 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,359 Speaker 1: here sadly, what do you think should be done about Stefanski? 1045 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: I like him and think we should keep him till 1046 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: we get a quarterback one because it's hard to be 1047 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: consistent when there's no consistency at the most important position 1048 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 1: in the league quarterback. I don't know, man, I think. 1049 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: I think the Browns have found themselves in this ugly, 1050 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: unenviable position. They made a move with Baker Mayfield and 1051 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: it's one of the all time failures this guy. If 1052 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield wins the MVP and you are shuffling through Flacco, 1053 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: Shador Sanders and Dylan Gabriel as your team wins three 1054 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: or four games, and you're just an embarrassment while you 1055 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: pay a guy fifty sixty million dollars to rehab who 1056 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 1: you are gonna cut the moment you don't know him 1057 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: as much money anymore. It's tough to shake, you know, 1058 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's easy. You know, people like media, 1059 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: people that don't like what we do will always be like, oh, 1060 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: you're just so hyperbolic, just talking head, just saying this, 1061 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: Like I understand why they moved on from Baker Mayfield. 1062 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 1: That doesn't change the fact that four or five years 1063 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: later we're in a position where he might win the 1064 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: MVP of the league. And if you're the Browns who 1065 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: drafted him number one overall, and yeah, it was he 1066 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: a little immature. Sure, they traded for a guy that 1067 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: could not stay out of the massage therapists giving him handies. 1068 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an all time story. We've never seen 1069 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: anything like. It's like quarterback, good looking guy should get 1070 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: laid with eaves. It's like, now, this guy was just 1071 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: addicted to going to massages and then he's terrible. He's 1072 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: kind of a weird dude, and clearly people aren't that 1073 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: into him, and then he sucks at football. I mean, 1074 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: it's an all time disaster, it really is. And I 1075 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: have a hard time putting that on Stefanski. But the 1076 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: simple reality is you fire coaches before you fire players. 1077 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: And if they would have, they could have fired DeShawn 1078 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: Jacks or Deshaun Watson. They would have fired him a 1079 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: year ago. We'd fire him right now. They can't so 1080 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: can these guys survive just losing week after week? I 1081 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 1: would say, based on their owner's history, I still can't 1082 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: believe when you think about the Watson situation. Now, they 1083 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: thought he was a star, so they went, who cares 1084 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: about the massage situation? But then they get him and 1085 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: he's not a star, and that thing just would not 1086 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: go away, like pretty embarrassing. I mean, it's really kind 1087 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 1: of a low level thing, and I'm not moral high 1088 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: horse to act like. You know a lot of people 1089 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 1: listening been to their massage therapists over the years, right, 1090 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: But relative to in his situation now, I see some 1091 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: of these pictures now, like with his new fiance, it's 1092 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: just it's just it's just weird. It's kind of just, yeah, 1093 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: this guy's just toxic. I mean, the Browns can't wait 1094 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: to get rid of de Shaan Watson, and no team 1095 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: will ever sign him ever again. Think about that Henry 1096 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Ruggs who got wasted top Golf and killed the chicken 1097 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: or dog. We'll get another chance. He will when he 1098 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: gets out of prison. He will get a workout. Wouldn't 1099 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,959 Speaker 1: shock me at all if he's at OTA's or training camp. 1100 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson will never play for another NFL team whenever 1101 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: he is cut within the next twenty four months ever. 1102 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: And I don't say that lightly, like I don't just 1103 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: say teams do not care. But he is to me, 1104 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: he's untouchable, terrible and a whack job. Is there any 1105 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 1: worse combination? Like ideally, do you know what you want? 1106 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Good player, great guy Malmes. You know that's high character guy. 1107 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Teammates love him, never gets in trouble, good player, That's 1108 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: that's what you're working. The least desirable is like, you know, 1109 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: he sucks, whack job, got about seventeen lawsuits coming after him. 1110 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, don't really want to get in yu 1111 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,720 Speaker 1: with that. But that, to me's on Jimmy Haslam, not 1112 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: on the GM and the owner. With how obviously important 1113 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 1: the NFL front office is to team's success, can you 1114 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,240 Speaker 1: expand on these roles? The GM is a critical piece. 1115 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Is the GM exclusively responsible for the salary cap or 1116 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: is there a finance guy that helps run the cap? Also? 1117 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: Can you expand on what the pay for front offices? 1118 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: What is the GM pay? How much would the second 1119 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: third guys in line make? I think it depends right, 1120 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: Like Howie Roseman is intimately involved in the salary cap. 1121 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: Now they pay people you know Jake Rosenberg, who is 1122 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: there forever and now you know whoever filled his spot, 1123 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 1: who worked the day to day cap numbers and contract negotiations, 1124 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: but how he has intimate knowledge of how that works. 1125 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,040 Speaker 1: And then you know a guy like Jason light who 1126 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: has said, like I depend like I understand the basics 1127 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: of it, but I'm not the nitty gritty of the 1128 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: contract right like John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan depend on 1129 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Perrague and his team to run point on the contracts. 1130 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: Right now, they determine value and how much you want 1131 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: a guy and stuff. But most of these teams, now, 1132 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: with how much money's on the line, it is ran 1133 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 1: by a financial, an individual with the financial background. I 1134 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: think the GM would very team, the team, you know. 1135 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,280 Speaker 1: I think the highest paid GMS in the league would 1136 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: be like Howie Roseman, John Schneider. I mean I would 1137 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: this would be an educated guess. I'd say eight to 1138 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: ten million dollars. John Lynch makes a ton. I think 1139 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: John Lynch makes like ten million dollars. I would imagine 1140 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: less Sneed makes a lot. And then the low paid 1141 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 1: GMS you know, probably make a couple of million dollars. 1142 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, a guy like Brett Veach when he first 1143 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: got the job was probably making a million. And then 1144 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: you start winning Super Bowls, you start can ask to 1145 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 1: take in names that thing five six, seven x's. So 1146 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: I think the pay varies from anything from like two million, 1147 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 1: like Dan Morgan with Carolina, probably one of the lower 1148 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: paid guys, which again relative to society making two three 1149 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: million dollars, and then you have guys making ten plus. 1150 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: I think the number two would probably, very on experience, 1151 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 1: would run you. I mean I've had different people tell 1152 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: me anywhere from like eight hundred grand to a million 1153 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: dollars as like the true number two GM. But it 1154 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 1: also varies like where do you live? Because paying you 1155 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: a million dollars to be the forty nine ers number 1156 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: two is essentially the same of being probably paid six 1157 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: hundred grand to be the chief's number two. So if 1158 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: you can get and this is the argument that I've 1159 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: had buddies tell me that their owner will be like, well, 1160 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 1: we're in you know, this city is way less expensive 1161 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: than you're comparing this to the guy in la or 1162 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: the guy in New York. So I think you battle 1163 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: some of those, so that that depends. I think the 1164 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: number two is typically under a million dollars, but high 1165 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 1: six figures, seven eight, nine hundred grand, and then once 1166 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: you start going below that, it's simply based on experience. 1167 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: How much you know, some franchises are cheaper than others. 1168 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:30,400 Speaker 1: But you can find college directors making five hundred grand. 1169 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,520 Speaker 1: You could probably find some that make two hundred and 1170 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars. But I mean, these are obviously 1171 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: good jobs. The other thing about a college director is 1172 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: some of these guys don't live in their area. So 1173 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: like I could be the college director for the forty 1174 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: nine ers, but potentially live in like Dallas, Texas, right 1175 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: or for the Philadelphia Eagle, and it lives somewhere else. 1176 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean I'm I'm going to the facility, 1177 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: going to games a lot, but my home base can 1178 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: be somewhere different. And then you know, scouts on the 1179 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: road probably you know I started like fifty grand, and 1180 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that was fifteen years ago, a little less, probably twelve, 1181 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: But you can find anyone making sixty seventy grand. You 1182 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: can find guys making two hundred grand, So it probably 1183 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: varies that way. So obviously gms make less than coaches. 1184 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: The high end guys like you know, the high end 1185 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: coaches are making fifteen to twenty million. The gms are 1186 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: making you know, the good the good ones and accomplished 1187 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ones are making seven to ten. So I 1188 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: mean these there's a lot of money getting thrown around. 1189 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 1: That's why I always say Wall Street on grass, But 1190 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I think the college director would say, are wide receiver 1191 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,760 Speaker 1: coaches making seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars? Coaches make 1192 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: way more than scouts. The coordinators are all making millions. 1193 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 1: But you have these position coaches, you know, like a 1194 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: running back coach if he's been in the league twenty 1195 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 1: years might be making seven and seventy five thousand dollars. 1196 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 1: Right a linebacker coach who's got fifteen year experience might 1197 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: be making six hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The position 1198 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL and college and the SEC, the 1199 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 1: big tent are making a ton, I mean huge money. 1200 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,720 Speaker 1: And obviously the coordinators, you know, the Fangio's, the Chip Kelly's, 1201 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: the Robert Salas. These guys are making four to six 1202 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: million dollars a year. It's a good time to be 1203 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, right, But it's also why there can 1204 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: be some bitterness. Some of these, like road scouts, get 1205 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: angry because they go like, I'm making one hundred and 1206 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: fifty K. I am on the road eighty percent of 1207 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,480 Speaker 1: the year, I scout. You know, guys, we're gonna draft 1208 01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: in the first second round and I'm making nothing relative 1209 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 1: to my profession what other guys in my building are making. 1210 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: So there's gonna be some bitterness and resentment there. For sure. 1211 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: The volume