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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three Now Podcast. Hopefully everyone's doing well, living life,

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Speaker 1: doing well. Like Drake may and Mike Rabel who get

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Speaker 1: call a good game. It doesn't mean he's not gonna

426
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Speaker 1: have a bad play call or two. But over the

427
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: course of a game, it's like some great quarters and

428
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: then just some awful quarters, like there's not much in between.

429
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: And today they had an opportunity. It was a great

430
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: play call. They had clearly scheme this up during the week,

431
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: this double move for AJ Brown. If they hit it,

432
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 1: it's twenty four to three, and by all intensive purposes,

433
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: the game would be over. It'd be nail in the coffin.

434
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: There'd be a quarter left, but it wouldn't matter. They

435
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: would not come back, not the way they were playing,

436
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: and based on the final score, it would have been

437
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 1: the game. But they missed. And then obviously the quotes

438
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: from AJ Brown and Jay it just they're not on

439
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: the same page. I don't care what the franchise says.

440
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't care what Brandon Graham walked back. It's not

441
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: even debatable at this point that being said, like Jalen

442
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: Hurts is gonna be your starting quarterback for the foreseeable future,

443
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and by all accounts, schefter Jay Glazier, because if you

444
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: know what, Harry Roseman is not in the business of

445
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: trading elite talents like AJ Brown, and they are adamantly

446
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: coming up. We're not trading him. So these guys are

447
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure this out. But they have this

448
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: first time play caller, this young guy. This isn't some

449
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: like Kellen Moore, even if you wanted a nitpick individual games.

450
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: He had been an offensive coordinator for years with the

451
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Then he even got to leave the Nest

452
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Speaker 1: because I was the only place he'd ever coached and

453
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: go to the Chargers and just coach here, justin Herbert

454
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of experience kind of feeling it out,

455
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: and you saw today they're up seventeen to three. In

456
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: the second half. Sakwe Barkley had one carry because you

457
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: have this first time coordinator who's caught in the middle

458
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: of this emotional situation and he's trying to play Kate

459
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: to everybody, Like, in no world can you have one

460
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: of the best running backs in the league, who's listen.

461
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: He's having a little bit of a hit or miss year.

462
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: But he had a big touchdown in the game on

463
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: a long pass. He had a couple explosive runs early

464
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: in the game. Even if the Broncos are selling out

465
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: to stop the run, like run the ball, just slow

466
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: down the game. You have this talented guy, maybe he

467
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: busts off a six to seven eight yard run all

468
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden on second and seven, boom, you get

469
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: a first down. You get to bleed a little bit

470
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: more clock. Instead, they got extremely pass happy because it

471
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: felt like they were trying to shut up all the podcasts,

472
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: all the local media, and just the fans about the situation.

473
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: And early in the game it worked, Jalen hit DeVante,

474
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: Jalen hit aj their passing game kind of work. But

475
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: as the game went on, it completely spluttered out. But

476
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: they extended the game because they got so pass happy

477
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 1: and their passes weren't working, and the time didn't run

478
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: off the clock, so the Broncos got more possessions. And

479
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: then I don't know how, but bo Nicks went from

480
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: being a horrendous football player to like a high end

481
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: player started leading them on drives scoring touchdowns. But not

482
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: only did say Kwan Barkley have six carries, he had

483
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: one carry in the second half. That just that's unacceptable.

484
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: The Eagles had eleven total carries as a team. Jalen

485
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: hurts almost had forty pass attempts. They were winning the

486
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: game heading into the fourth quarter by multiple scores. So

487
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: even if that number of the pass attempts I think

488
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: it was thirty eight or thirty nine, is a little

489
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: inflated because they got the ball, you know, down four

490
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: with whatever, fifty set forties five seconds left and try

491
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Speaker 1: to drive the field. Even even the play where everyone's

492
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: freaking out about the pass interference, Like, here's where I

493
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Speaker 1: stand on pass interference. You could argue it was you

494
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: could argue it wasn't. The ball was never going to

495
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: be completed, whether there was a defensive back there or not.

496
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: It was a bad throw wide receiver. In the quarterback,

497
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: we're not on the same page. So I hate rewarding

498
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: awf of throws. One thing that used to happen when

499
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: I was a kid that for whatever reason, just doesn't

500
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: happen anymore. When you would airmail a wide receiver and

501
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: there would be pass interference, a referee would go like this,

502
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: and it would be this thing called un catchable, and

503
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: the past interference wouldn't count, because like, we're not going

504
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: to bail you out for a shit throw just because

505
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: the defensive guy made a bad play. That has clearly

506
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: been thrown out the window and people just complain now,

507
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: But like it was a massive win by Denver because

508
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: early in that game, all you know, Tony Romo. I

509
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: was thinking, today, listen to Tony and Jim. I don't

510
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: even think I've had their audio on throughout this season,

511
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't think I've really listened to

512
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: much Tony Romo this year. I thought they were pretty good.

513
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: That was a lighthearted, just kind of fun. Had no

514
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: issues with the broadcast team of those two, but Tony

515
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: hammer at home that that Sean Payton had been telling

516
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: them that, like it was a really big deal. I

517
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: think I'd written it down that teams with the road

518
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: game then leaving from that road game to go play

519
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: a London game. We're two and fourteen, so basically teams

520
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: that had packed up for two weeks to leave or

521
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: a week and a half or whatever, however many days

522
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: you want to consider it ten days on the road

523
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: if you're leaving on Friday or Saturday and you're not

524
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: coming back to the following like Sunday night. Monday had

525
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: been terrible, which kind of understandable. So they had made

526
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: a huge emphasis about it during the week and then

527
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: you're watching like they're just getting their ass kicked that

528
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: clearly didn't matter. But then they win it, and all

529
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're like, God, I think now they

530
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: feel like kind of good because their defense is out.

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00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Their defense is good. But Bo Nicks a little like

532
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is like mister Jekyll and mister Hyde. It's like,

533
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: what are you going to get here? Are we getting

534
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: the good guy or were getting the back guy? Because

535
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: when he's good, he's really good. When he's bad, he's atrocious.

536
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Like you go three and out, you throw go routes,

537
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: and the difference. You know, Jalen is a good deep

538
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: ball thrower. You watch Bo Nicks and he has these

539
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: guys open on deep breaking routes, whether the go routes

540
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: or post routes, and he's overthrown him by three or

541
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: four yards, like it's not even it's not even close.

542
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: The guy couldn't even if he could was like Kevin

543
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Garnett and could jump like he was Russell Westbrook and

544
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: his primes wouldn't even get a fingertip on the football. So,

545
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: like one thing, the Broncos, if they are gonna go

546
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: to where their aspirations the way that they talked about

547
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: led by the head coach this offseason, specifically training camp,

548
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: they are going to need to figure out how to

549
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: get some of these explosive pass plays that are schemed

550
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: up and they're there and then for whatever reason, their

551
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: quarterback can't hit and the Eagles like, there is no

552
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: fixing this. To me, your coordinator either had like Vic Fangio,

553
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: it's just natural at it. And you know what, I've

554
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: been watching him for a long time. He's been natural

555
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: at it for a long time because your instincts as

556
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: a play caller. There are certain people in life, right

557
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: if you're in sales. One of my good friends from

558
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: when I was young and through college, I went to

559
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: his fortieth birthday party and he's got a bunch of

560
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: friends that I don't really know, a bunch of successful

561
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: people in the Bay Area. A lot of them are

562
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: in sales and like a lot of these guys have

563
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: been crushing it, I mean, making way more money than

564
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: they probably ever dreamed of since their mid twenties because

565
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: they just got in these sales roles and they could

566
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: just fucking close deals. It kind of came naturally to

567
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: them and some people can close deals and some people can't. Right,

568
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: some people can call plays and some people can't. It's

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Speaker 1: why Andy Reid has won a lot of games with

570
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Speaker 1: a lot of different quarterbacks. Kyle Shanahan just beat Sean

571
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: McVay with Mac freaking Jones on a spring pcl Why

572
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: he's a natural play caller. You watch this Kevin Petola guy.

573
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: Sure he's a nice guy. Sure everyone likes him. I

574
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: know Nick Sirianni likes him. They've known each other for

575
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. He's just not that good. It doesn't

576
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: mean and here's the other thing, it doesn't mean that

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: you don't know offense. I had a scout. He's not

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00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: even a scout. He's like a number two for a team.

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Speaker 1: Describe it to me this way. He's like, if you

580
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: got every quarterback in the NFL, every single one, starters

581
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and backups, and you got him in the room with

582
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and head coaches that were offensive guys, and

583
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: they just did football on the whiteboard, you wouldn't really

584
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: be able to tell the difference of Peyton Manning to

585
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, to Kevin Petola to Sean McVay. They would

586
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: all blow you away. By the shit they know, whiteboard

587
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: pen and you went and walked it through on the field,

588
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: you'd be like, God, all these guys like, these guys

589
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: are all incredible. I'm talking backups, starters, quarterback coaches. But

590
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: then the games start and then it starts separating, like

591
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: the ability because even in practice, training camp, practice, help,

592
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: joint practices, you can't tackle me, and I know it.

593
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: So anyone that's ever had been lucky enough if you're

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00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: a season ticket holder to go to one of these practices,

595
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, that would have been a sack.

596
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: And then the guy keeps scrambling a little bit more

597
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: and hits the wide receiver for another fifty yards, like

598
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: what a play. And then later that day the team

599
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: tweets it out. This is like mid August, You're like,

600
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: what a catch? By the third round rookie, it's like, yeah,

601
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: the guy was sacked like seven seconds ago. Won the

602
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: games Thursday night, Sunday, Sunday night, Monday. That would be

603
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,479
Speaker 1: a sack, or maybe it wouldn't be. Because the quarterback

604
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: can process so fast. It gets rid of the ball,

605
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: throws the ball away, or hits it to his checkdown

606
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: and that's when everything separates, and that's when all these

607
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks separate. The guys that can process it quick, the

608
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: guy that understands it, the guy that has a great

609
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: instincts and the feel for the pocket, the play callers

610
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: that understand how to adjust on the fly, what's working,

611
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: what's not working, the understand their own scheme, that knows

612
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: the strikes and weaknesses of their opponents. You know, one

613
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: huge disadvantage, for example, Belichick has is he doesn't know

614
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: any of these coaches. So when he's going up against

615
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: different offensive coordinators, he doesn't know their history. Now, he

616
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: could have studied this offseason, but when Bill Belichick went

617
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: against Andy Reid or Sean McVay, or you name it,

618
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer or Liam Cohen or whoever, he knew everything

619
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Speaker 1: about every single player on their roster. Why because he

620
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: had scouted them all coming out. And for most of

621
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: these coaches, he had coached against them before. And if

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00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: they were a first time coordinator, he had coached against

623
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: their scheme because they had came from somewhere. So the

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00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: history of like Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, their

625
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: understanding of just the opponent is pretty It doesn't mean

626
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna take advantage of it if you don't know

627
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: the players, ie Pete Carroll, but you got a pretty

628
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: good feel for everyone you're going up against. And you know,

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00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: you see a first time coordinator like I, they just

630
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: don't have a feel. They don't really know what they're doing.

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00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: They just something's off. And listen, some are worse than others.

632
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Kevin Patola was like the worst

633
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: coordinator I've ever seen, But I think we just have

634
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: to acknowledge like something's off. Like we've all been watching

635
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: football long enough. You watch them coach like today against Temper,

636
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: and you go, there's good and there's not good. It's

637
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: it's just a bizarre experience. And I think it's pretty

638
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: clear something isn't working. On the flip side, I think

639
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: one thing that's pretty cool about this era that we're

640
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: in is watching these guys resurrect their careers. Like Sam

641
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 1: Donald's just a good player, you know, like last year

642
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke watching him the day and watching them

643
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: this season like Sam Donald is good. Baker Mayfield now

644
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: has years, right, like two years and then this year

645
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: like we're on two years in five games, like I'm

646
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: fucking good. I am one of the best players in

647
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: the NF. Well, I'm watching those two guys thinking like,

648
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: this was the number one pick in the draft, this

649
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: was the number three pick in the draft. That's what

650
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like, and it's taken these guys

651
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: on different paths. Listen, whenever someone asked me for advice, Listen, young,

652
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I've been there before of not having it. When you're

653
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: being twenty twenty one, twenty five. All of our paths

654
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: are different. My pass different than your past, different than

655
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,959
Speaker 1: the next guy's path. And if you are talented enough,

656
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: if you are willing to go above and beyond, if

657
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: you're willing to not quit. Right, if Sam Darnold would

658
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: have been like, yeah, I'm just kind of overall just

659
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: be a backup, would anyone have blamed him. I'm just

660
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: cool with being a backup for like the next ten years.

661
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: But those guys just kind of kept their head down.

662
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: They finally got in the right situations and they have thrived.

663
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: And watching that game today, I texted someone this today,

664
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: it felt like watching a college game that had two

665
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: guys gonna be drafted in the top ten Like that,

666
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: What a fun experience to just sit on the couch

667
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: and watch these two guys play football, big play after

668
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: big play, and typically I'm anti bad defense. But here's

669
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: the thing. I know, Todd Bowle is one of the

670
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: best defensive coaches in the league. I know Mike McDonald's

671
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive coaches in the league. I

672
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: just thought that was like elite quarterback play and how

673
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: many times Sam did it more than Baker. But like

674
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: they would drop back, nothing would be there, They'd be

675
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: getting pressure and they would just make shit happen with

676
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: their legs, scramble around and then make a great pass.

677
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: Sam Donald's ability to add lib today was just fantastic.

678
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Same with Baker, and I mean the two star wide receivers,

679
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: both Ohio State guys. Colin and I talked about it.

680
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: Neither guy's a top ten pick. Both guys are like, Eh,

681
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: this guy's really good player, but he's a little slow,

682
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: he's a little small. They're dominant players. You know why,

683
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: because if you can get open. I'm watching Keenan Allen today.

684
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen's probably faster than me, but not that much faster,

685
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: right he is not If you time Keenan Allen to

686
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: run the forty right now, my guess would be like

687
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: four eight eight four nine to two. But you know

688
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: what doesn't matter his forty time when he's running an

689
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: inbreaking route or running a quick out or running an

690
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: option route. You know why because Keenan Allen knows how

691
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: to find open space. He's a great route runner. He's

692
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: an instinctive player. Davante Adams is kind of like the younger,

693
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: probably a little faster version of that as well. DeVante

694
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Adams not a burner, but he can get open and

695
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: he'll be able to get open until he can't walk anymore.

696
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: Right So, both those two guys are great examples of

697
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: if you can if you can get open, if you

698
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: can run routes, they'll be a place for you for

699
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: a long time in the NFL. And watching Keenan still

700
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: make a ton of plays, it's fun to watch because

701
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: it's it's enjoy to see a guy that isn't that

702
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: fast dominate. And watching those two guys from Ohio State

703
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: and watching those two quarterbacks was just a blast. And listen,

704
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: you look at the NFC right now, forty nine ers

705
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: had a great day. I went on with Colin and

706
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: I just assumed the Arizona Cardinals had won when we

707
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: got off one of the producers, like the Titans one

708
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: that came like the football game Titans won the football

709
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: game like today, the one that the one that happened earlier. Like, yeah,

710
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: so the Arizona Cardinals who just somehow crumbled in that game,

711
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: pretty crazy. I mean luck on the uh one, the

712
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: dude dropped it at the at the goal line, I

713
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: mean anytime that happens. I would imagine if we did

714
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: a study of times that a player had dropped a

715
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: touchdown at the goal line, their team's record. If I

716
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: had to guest sitting here right now, it's like h

717
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: to ten, Like you lose one hundred percent of the

718
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: time your player does that. But the Cardinals also had

719
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the interset that the dude fumbled, which again I wasn't

720
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: watching the game live. I had to go back and

721
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: watch the highlights on that interception. I guess you don't

722
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: have to make a football move when you're picking it

723
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: off like you do when you're an offensive player. Thought like,

724
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: maybe they could have challenged it, like it wasn't even

725
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: interception when hit the ground, but clearly they did gets

726
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 1: kicked to the end zone, Titans fall on it. Just

727
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: just a batshit crazy game. I mean, that's got to

728
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: be the craziest game so far this season. I mean

729
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: the Seattle Tampa game was crazy in the sense of

730
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: these two quarterbacks gunslinging. That was just like, wait, the Titans.

731
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: I still can't get over the Titans won that game.

732
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: But right now the Niners technically are the number one

733
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: seed with Philly, Tampa and Detroit. I don't know if

734
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: the Niners can sustain this, given that half their team

735
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: is literally injured, and we know for a fact that

736
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: the other half will get injured. I would say Seattle.

737
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: I would still be pretty bullish on Seattle. The Rams

738
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: are not going away packers, pretty big wild card, would

739
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: not sell all my stocking, you know. And watching Washington

740
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: today like as long as they got that quarterback, they're

741
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: not gonna go quietly. So my one take with the

742
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: NFC because for the last several years, like Lamar, Josh Patrick,

743
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: and then obviously if Burrow had the right team Burrow,

744
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: it's like that those guys are just gonna be tough

745
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: to beat. How you gonna bet against Typically it's been

746
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, But if if any of the other guys

747
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: had made it the Super Bowl. You would have bet

748
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: on Lamar and the Ravens a couple of years ago.

749
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: You would have bet on the Bills last year, like

750
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: their teams, just because of those quarterbacks. But you look

751
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: at the NFC again, they all kind of got some flaws.

752
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: But it's just it's pretty tough and it's gonna be

753
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: wide freaking open come the NFC playoffs because the injuries

754
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: are gonna play a massifactor. They currently are playing a

755
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: massive factor. Team that's kind of flying under the radar

756
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. Is the Lions. Like you're gonna look

757
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: up and the Lions are gonna be like thirteen and

758
00:40:52,480 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: four and be a mother Come come the playoffs. People,

759
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: I know the Porta Potti Panthers as we called them

760
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: last year. I said this last week. The Saints are

761
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: not that terrible. They're not gonna have a good record,

762
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: but like they're not that bad of a team because

763
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: their offense is pretty explosive. Now, the Giants had about

764
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: twenty five turnovers today. Obviously, Dart was started fast, got

765
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: a little weird in the middle of the game. Scataboo

766
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: had a fumble that it felt like I was kind

767
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: of hoping Skataboo would take his helmet and like fling it,

768
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: but he kind of held his emotions and the Saints.

769
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: Saints have good offensive players. Somehow. The Titans came back

770
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: from the dead in one a game the Jets to

771
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 1: me at through the first five weeks. The Dolphins lost

772
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: today to the Panthers, who probably are the same type team,

773
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: probably a little feistier than you think. Neither of that good,

774
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: but neither of a total embarrassment. You know, the Jets.

775
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: The final score I thinks thirty seven to twenty two.

776
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: They were down thirty to six in the fourth quarter.

777
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: It is it's pretty crazy how shitty they are, because listen,

778
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: I thought signing Justin Fields to that contract is pretty insane.

779
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: But they still had good players. They they had a

780
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: good young tackle, they had a star wide receiver, they

781
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: got a couple running backs, they got good defensive players.

782
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: And you're watching them, You're like, these guys just suck.

783
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Like I understand watching the Titans, like, yeah, they're not

784
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: very good. They don't have a ton of guys that

785
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: other teams would want. But you watch the Jets like,

786
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: if they're healthy, how many guys on their roster individually,

787
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 1: would the Niners, the Eagles, Tampa Bay, Detroit, Seattle, the Rams,

788
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: the Packers watching want I mean a ton, they would

789
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: want a ton of their players. Yet, this is what

790
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: makes football such a great support. It's not about the

791
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: individual players. We have seen a lot of teams over

792
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: the years with good individual players absolutely stink. And that's

793
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: what it happens in college all the time. You're like, god,

794
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: this team is look at Penn State like you went

795
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: eight and four, and it happens every once in a

796
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: while a lot of times in the NFL, just a

797
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: team like the Patriots last year or the Giants last year,

798
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: like team with not that many good players losing. Then

799
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: you have the Jets. You're like, I'm pretty sure you

800
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of good players and they look destined

801
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: to not be good at all. So they're gonna get

802
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the Porta Potty Award. I mean, that's that's that's Ryder

803
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Cup level humidity, afternoon wave, that smells, that stinks. That's

804
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: the Porta Potty Jets. They'll get that honor for the week.

805
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: A couple other quick things before we get out of here.

806
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I think we just have to acknowledge and I'm not like.

807
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I saw a mock draft last week on the Athletic,

808
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: not by one of their main guys, guy I'd never

809
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: heard of, but still like it was up on the

810
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: website that had arch Manning. It was a first round

811
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: mark as pick twenty eight. And this was before the

812
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Florida game. And I said, listen, I don't pretend to

813
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: be an NFL scout anymore. That's long time ago. I'm

814
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: just a podcaster, but I do watch football for a living.

815
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: I have a kind of close friends in the profession,

816
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: and I got a pretty good idea. Doesn't mean I'm

817
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: gonna be right on every player, but I can tell

818
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: you pretty solidly, especially with a quarterback, like yeah, this

819
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: guy is gonna go in the top fifty picks or

820
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: like no chance based on right now, there is not

821
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: a chance on God's Green Earth before the Florida game

822
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: that arch Manning would have gone in the first round,

823
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: not one, like zero percent chance. There is less than

824
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: a zero percent chance after the Florida game that he

825
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: would go in the first round. I'm not saying he

826
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't get drafted, but he would not get drafted. I

827
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: mean second round, no chance, third round, no chance. I

828
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: think you'd be crazy using a fourth. I mean, this

829
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: guy is not a draftable player. I think there'd be

830
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of teams like, I'm not drafting he's not

831
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: a good player. Were watching him play in college football

832
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: and he's not very good. Is he injured? Is he

833
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: just overrated? Listen. I don't know anyone with the Texas program.

834
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't have inside information on this. I'm just more

835
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: like most of you. I've just turned on the television

836
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: and I actually didn't even watch much of this game

837
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: live because I was watching my guy at UCLA ruined

838
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: James Franklin's career. But I went back last night we

839
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: flew home from California. I was laying in bed at eleven.

840
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: We got home at like ten thirty, couldn't really sleep,

841
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, I know, me and Colin,

842
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to talk about Arch. Let's type

843
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: in Arch all of his plays and all his highlights,

844
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: not t highlights, but just his plays, his offensive snaps

845
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: from the Florida game. And I came away, I'm like,

846
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: this is just this is just not good. And I've

847
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: told this to Colin. I've said this to a bunch

848
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: of people that asked me over the weekend. I don't

849
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: believe he's going to be at the University of Texas.

850
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: One of my good friends, my college roommate, lives in

851
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Austin and he actually is in business with Carson Palmer's

852
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: brother Jordan. He goes to a lot of Texas games,

853
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: and even he was trying to be bullish. He's like,

854
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think Art is gonna turn this

855
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: thing around. And he's work because I think a lot

856
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: of people in that community are rooting for him. It's

857
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: a cool story. And he texted me like midway through

858
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: the game, I think he was at the airport, like

859
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: having a Beer's like, God, this guy stinks, Like yeah,

860
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: just he does. This isn't like I would love for

861
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: this guy to be good. But there was a pass

862
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: that DJ Lagway had in the game where he threw

863
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: like a bomb down the middle of the field. You're like,

864
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: that's talent. It's like, I've watched enough Colts this year

865
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: to go like, listen, I was probably wrong on Daniel

866
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Jones because he's more physically gifted than I realized. He

867
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: throws the ball better than I thought. He had a

868
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: throw today against the Raiders in the red zone where

869
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: he scrambled to his right and let it rip. You're like,

870
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like that's Josh Allen, because you know

871
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's throwing one hundred miles an hour, but that

872
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: throw was like ninety six miles an hour. If we're

873
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: doing the baseball camp like, that's pretty like his pysical

874
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: attributes really translate. I'm watching Archer's physical attributes just relative

875
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: to the sec they don't translate. I'm flipping the channels yesterday,

876
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I going to the Diego Pavia and Ty Simpson Alabama,

877
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: Like those guys are in a different world than him.

878
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: So for all the hype or whatever, and listen, this

879
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: happens sometimes. There's never been anything quite like this, a

880
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: preseason Heisman just because of his last name, but just

881
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: an all time disaster. And speaking of disasters, I'd be

882
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: lying to you if I didn't type into YouTube this

883
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: morning when I was on a walk Penn State podcast

884
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: and just listen to the reaction of just some local

885
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: young guys that were just letting it fly. It's like,

886
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: just inject this shit into my veins. Tim Skipper, and

887
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: I've said this for a long time to people in

888
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: the business, He's easily one of the best coaches I've

889
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: ever been around. When I was a GA at Fresno State,

890
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: he was one of our. He was a running back coach,

891
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: he was a linebacker coach, assistant defensive coordinator. Every single

892
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: player that was around him at Fresno State would swear

893
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: by him, not just as a coach, but as a

894
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: guy and as a man. He's a fucking stud. I

895
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: love Tim Skipper. His brother Kelly is the running back

896
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: coach for the Bills and his dad is now retired

897
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: in actually Arizona, longtime MENFO coach. He's a football lifer.

898
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: He was an excellent, like All American linebacker in the

899
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: late nineties at Fresno State. His brother Kelly was a

900
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: running back I think in the late eighties or early

901
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: nineties at Preston State. They're a football family, and I've

902
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: always thought he kind of got the short end of

903
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the stick with some stuff. He was a coach at

904
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Florida with Jim mcelwaine. He was the interim coach last

905
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: year at Fresno State. I thought he should have get

906
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: the job. They didn't give it to him. It really

907
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: pissed me off. Deshaun Foster his dad coached him in

908
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Carolina like twenty years ago, maybe a little less than that,

909
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: and Deshaun has said, I'm like a four Skipper brother,

910
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: third Skipper brother, so they're very, very close, and he

911
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: brings them in and then obviously DeShawn gets fired and

912
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: they give Tim Skipper the interim job up and then

913
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't really even following it the way they elevated

914
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Jerry Neuheisel, who used to be I think the backup

915
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 1: quarterback for Josh Rosen and was like a second third

916
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: string quarterback in his college career. Obviously, his dad, Rick,

917
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: former UCLA coach, talks just like him. The blonde locks

918
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: is calling place. You got Tim Skipper and Jerry Neuheisel

919
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: going up against James Franklin with the highest paid coaching

920
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: staff currently in college football. Jim Knowles, who left Ohio

921
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: State last year after win the National champions to go

922
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: to Penn State, is the highest paid defensive coordinator in

923
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: the country. I do believe that when you set your

924
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: site specifically on one regular season game in college football

925
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: that is no longer a regular season sport, you could

926
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: have several losses and make the playoffs. Yet Penn State

927
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: treated Oregon like it was nineteen ninety eight or two

928
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, that if you lose one game you're

929
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: probably done. Instead, it's not the end of the world.

930
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: Now it felt like the end of the world because

931
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: James Frankly can't be in a good team and Penn

932
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: State can never win that game, and it was at home.

933
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: The wide out, it didn't really change that much. They

934
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: still controlled everything, but the way they had built up

935
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: for that game and then the letdown in the way

936
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: they had lost. I say this all the time about

937
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. These are humans, and hell, these are eighteen

938
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. Do you think that the Penn State players

939
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: were that focused on UCLA? Not a chance in hell.

940
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: Do you think the coaches were as locked in as

941
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: they would have been had they won that Oregon No chance? Well,

942
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: who really tried Tim Skipper, who's trying to prove himself

943
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: They can't get a head coaching job, even though he's

944
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: worthy of it. He's a fucking stud and his references

945
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: are elite. Everyone swears by the guy. He had that

946
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: team ready to go. Jerry Neuheisel, who's a tight end

947
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: quarterback coach. He's got his dad in the CBS studios

948
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: and tears running Nico. I'm a lava, can't even say

949
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: his last name. Whoever was making fun of Nico has

950
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: been the butt of everyone's jokes all college football season.

951
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: He takes less money. He goes to UCLA, one of

952
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the country. The team has scored

953
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: fifty seven points on the season. They scored forty two

954
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: against Penn State. It's one of the biggest upsets in

955
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: my life. There have been bigger upsets numerically right by

956
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: the point spread, like Stanford I think was a forty

957
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: point underdog when they when Jim Harbaugh beat Pete Carroll.

958
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: I don't know what the point spread was on Apple

959
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: Lachian State beating Michigan, but like obviously it was a

960
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: really big deal. Yeah, NIU last year against Notre Dame.

961
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: We have had some individual crazy ones in like a

962
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: one off situation. I would also say this non conference

963
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: games NIU, Notre Dame, Apple Lash and State Michigan, that

964
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: can happen like Stanford, USC like that, that's pretty banana.

965
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Penn State going to UCLA knowing that they still have

966
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: everything in front of them to lose that game, I

967
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: just don't think you shake it. There are certain things,

968
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: and we'll get into Mark Sanchez here in a second,

969
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: you just can't shake and this is one of those. Obviously,

970
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: there are variables like buyouts and James Franklin fifty six,

971
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, depending on this isn't like I don't think

972
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: you can just type it in and get the specific

973
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: number from Penn State. But based on reports I've read,

974
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: it's somewhere between fifty and fifty five million dollars, which

975
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: in this landscape is a lot of money. And as

976
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: some of the podcasts I listened to today said, if

977
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: buyouts did not exist, James Franklin would have been fired

978
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: right after the UCLA game. Because you can lose the

979
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: Oregon game. Hell, James Franklin has made a career of

980
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: losing the Oregon game. You can never lose the UCLA game.

981
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: And some people thought it's one of the worst losses

982
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 1: in the history of the program, definitely in the modern era.

983
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: But when you're paying a guy this much money, when

984
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: you're paying a team this much money, and when you're

985
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: paying coaching staffs this much money, losing a game like

986
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: that can be a nail in a career at Penn

987
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: State doesn't mean that he couldn't go if you're Florida,

988
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: like you'd be interested in Jane Franklin. You would love

989
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: if you're Florida, for James Franklin to do what he

990
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: did at Penn State for you, even if you never

991
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: beat Alabama or Georgia skip me in the playoffs and

992
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: people kept saying, well, hey, you know, we make the

993
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: play The stats came out on Penn State that if

994
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs had been around before the twelfth team or

995
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: over the last ten years, Penn State would have made

996
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: it like five out eight years. So like they had

997
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: been doing the same thing over and over and for

998
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: the first time, it's like, ugh, maybe it's done. And

999
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: in this landscape of paying players, maybe they tune you

1000
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: out faster. I don't know, but congrats to my guy,

1001
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Tim Skipper, and I'll end on this. I saw that

1002
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: the story break like most people. When we were in

1003
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: the car driving from Napa to Davis to go to

1004
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: Maria's or family baby shower, well her baby shower. Even

1005
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: though I said that to her, She's like, well, it's

1006
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: your baby too. I'm like, yeah, Well, if my buddy

1007
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been getting married. I never would have come

1008
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: on this trip. But that's neither here nor there. Baby

1009
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: show is fun. A little hungover, but I made it

1010
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: through schefter people put out. TMZ puts out that Mark

1011
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: Sanchez been in an altercation and been stabbed like Ben robbed,

1012
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: and then more information came out that he got attacked.

1013
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: And then we're twenty four hours later and now the

1014
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: stories come out that looks pretty bad for Mark Sanchez,

1015
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: who was obviously arrested for attacking a guy. And my

1016
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: overall takeaway is this, because I don't have any more

1017
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: information than any of you that have just read the

1018
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: stories online that when you make decisions with alcohol and

1019
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: potentially drugs, because I you know, obviously alcohol can be

1020
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: a powerful thing. If you have a little too much,

1021
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you're not making sane decisions. But based on people that

1022
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: I know that have been around Mark Sanchez in his

1023
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: playing career, they fucking love the guy he was. I

1024
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: know people that were around him in Philly, know people

1025
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 1: that were around him in Chicago. I've never heard a

1026
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: bad thing about the guy, and I hear a lot

1027
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: of bad things about a lot of people. You know,

1028
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm a scouted heart, so I'm always asking people about

1029
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: other people. And this moment, whatever was in his body,

1030
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: alcohol plus whatever, if that's the case, gonna change the

1031
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: guy's life forever. And I was thinking about this. He

1032
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: got lucky that in Indianapolis, this guy that he attacked,

1033
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: who was just working his job. If that would have

1034
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: happened where I live, in Arizona or in states like

1035
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: Texas or the South, there is a very good likelihood

1036
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: that when that guy got to like protect himself, it

1037
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a knife, it would have been a gun,

1038
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: and he would have fucking put several inside of him

1039
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: and probably killed him on the spot. And it just

1040
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: shows you, you know, and I think about this, I'm

1041
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: about to have a kid. I know Mark Sanchez has

1042
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: a kid. When you get the opportunity and life is

1043
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: going your way. And Mark Sanchon has had a pretty

1044
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: freaking good life, played in the NFL for a long

1045
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: time now, calls games for Fox, probably making I mean,

1046
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: I would be made and maybe a million bucks to

1047
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: work seventeen days a year in to travel to some

1048
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: different cities and obviously have some cocktails on Friday nights

1049
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,760
Speaker 1: before the game and with one, you know, drunk induced

1050
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: whatever decision, you just throw your whole life away. And

1051
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I think about this a lot. Obviously my perspective has

1052
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: changed dramatically. You know, having about three months away from

1053
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: having a child, and a lot of people listening to

1054
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: this have kids or you know, thinking about having kids,

1055
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: or maybe have a kid on the way, or maybe

1056
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: about to get married, and more and more people that

1057
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 1: come in your life that depend on you, that your

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Speaker 1: consequences affect a lot of people, or your actions that

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Speaker 1: have consequences impact a lot of other people. If I

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Speaker 1: make a devastating mistake, it no longer just impacts me.

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Speaker 1: It would impact my wife, it would impact my child,

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Speaker 1: it would impact the home that we share together. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it has massive consequences. And obviously this is about you

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Speaker 1: see the picture or the still shot of the guy

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Speaker 1: in the hospital that that he attacked, and here's the

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Speaker 1: thing it was. I've spent I mean, probably in my

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Speaker 1: life fifty days in Indianapolis when I was working in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, probably three different combines at six seven days.

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Speaker 1: I've gone to the combine multiple times at four or

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Speaker 1: five days since working in the media, maybe three different times.

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Speaker 1: So maybe thirty five days in Indianapolis. It's a pretty

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Speaker 1: easy going place. I've been to a lot of cities

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Speaker 1: where you know, you're just you're kind of looking over

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Speaker 1: your shoulder, especially you know late at night, you know,

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Speaker 1: probably walking home to the hotel a little bit late.

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis is not one of those places. I have never

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Speaker 1: thought twice, And I've had a lot of late nights.

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Speaker 1: In all those nights that I've spent in Indianapolis, I've

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Speaker 1: had some nights where I get home at three or

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Speaker 1: four in the morning. So I have a lot of

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Speaker 1: coaches and scouts over the years, and that's the last

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Speaker 1: thing that crossed my mind ever, was something weird happening,

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Speaker 1: because it's not really in my experience, especially where he's

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Speaker 1: staying the west In or the Marriotte where that's going down,

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Speaker 1: and with this guy who's just working at the hotel,

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Speaker 1: probably never crossed his mind either. So just just don't

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Speaker 1: be a fucking idiot and lay off the drugs. That's

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Speaker 1: that's my uh, that's my advice for the night. The

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Speaker 1: volume mm hmm