1 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: So while we were on this road trip, we met 2 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: up with some friends. 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: And one of the things my wife loves more than 4 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: anything is karaoke like singing, okay, and we have with 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: our friends we met up with in Kentucky. 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: They also sing, and everybody can sing. 7 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: I can't sing. 8 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: And this made me realize I have no talents outside, 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: Like do you guys have talents? 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: No? 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: Can you do other things? 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 4: I'm not good at anything, not one thing. I can't 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: play an instrument. I don't speak any other languages fluently. No. 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can play a little bit of guitar and 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: a little bit of piano like you can. I would 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: never do it for other people, Like it's just for me, 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's like just a hobby. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: What would you consider writing a talent? 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: Sure, like performative talent? 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: Like what the only thing I can do? Voices? I 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: mean does that counts? 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: No? 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about like do you go like, well, 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: this is an interesting question because I was also thinking 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: about this, like, Danielle, did you even act before you 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: became a professional actor? Like did you ever take an 27 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: acting class? 28 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: Or I was in elementary school plays, but I was 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: not like a big part or anything. I mean they 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: threw me into the Wizard of Oz. They like created 31 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: a character for me. I didn't have any lines. I 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: don't think or maybe I said like maybe I said, 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: like I'm. 34 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Michelle, the girl that's also on the trip. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: No, but you know what, you'll see how they do. 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: They can't actually create a character. The the Lollipop Guild. 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: They added two little girls, me and my best friend Jessica, 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: and we were the Lullaby League. So there was the 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: Lollipop Guild and the Lullaby League and we were basically 40 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 4: like little partners to the Lollipop Guild. A song we 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: came out with like to two on and. 42 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: You represent yeah and we like league League League and 43 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't the second grade Wizard of Oz had to 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: create so many roles, so they were There was Dorothy 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: and like Dorothea too. 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: There was Toto and then another cat that was also 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: with them. 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: Oh man, the tornado was an actual was one of 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: the kids acting as a tornado. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: It was great. It was so fun. 51 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 2: Wait wow, but yeah, no, I have no I wish 52 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: I could sing more than anything in the world. 53 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: Like I love singing, I'm just so bad at it. 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I can hold a tune. 55 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah you can't. I've heard you sing. 56 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I can hold a tune. 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 5: I would now nobody would be like, wow, that guy 58 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: can sing. But I can hold a tune enough to 59 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 5: where it's not horribly embarrassing. I just never sing, though, 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 5: Like I'll sing in character sometimes for voice over stuff 61 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 5: where it's like ron Stoppable singing something or something like that. 62 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 5: I do more and I sung to remember to Sir 63 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: with Love on the show, they like sent me to 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: an actor or a singing coach. To you, that kind 65 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: of stuff is weird, But actual talents, no, Like I 66 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 5: don't paint. I couldn't draw a straight line if there 67 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 5: was a guy. 68 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: Four get it yeah either Like no, I have zero 69 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: artistic ability me too. Can you. 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: Know what's funny is that I've started drawing with Indy, 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: Like I didn't draw at all when I was a kid, 72 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: or but I love it now. I'm not very good, 73 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: but I can see how I could get better if 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: I just practiced, Like if you just focus on you know, 75 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: it's like anything, you just do it. But I actually 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: find it so soothing to draw with Indy, Like we 77 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: sit and we draw and I just and I really 78 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: love it. 79 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: And I could see myself working on it, so I 80 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: want to get better at it. 81 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I definitely like sculpting. 82 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: I'm just bad. I'm just I've never tried. I mean 83 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 5: like I would when we were doing Boy. I would 84 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: always mess around with like sculpting wax or sculpting clay, 85 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 5: just at my apartment, messing around. 86 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: But I'd love to actually take a class and learn 87 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: how to do it. 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: Did you guys know that I was a magician before 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: I was an actor? 90 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 5: What what you were the amazing the Strong Brother's Magic Show. 91 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, like, oh okay back in the day, and. 92 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: That's when you guys started doing tricks. When when like 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: it's basically stealing the show When you were in another play, right, 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: weren't you guys doing stuff off to the exactly. 95 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were in a play the Guards invent Yeah, 96 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: we were the Guards and we invented this whole like 97 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: carrot Bit or whatever. But then right around that same time, 98 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: we went to a Doug Henning magic show and like 99 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: all like we were for whatever reason, throughout the course 100 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: of this Doug Henning show, all the members of my 101 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: family got called up on stage, Like my dad got 102 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: called up, I got called up Charlotte. I guess we 103 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: were just like in the right seat whatever. And we 104 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: became obsessed with magic, and so we started developing their 105 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: own magic show. 106 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: And then we used to do birthday parties. The Strong 107 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: Brothers Magic Show. 108 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: We had like kins and and like like prizes we 109 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: would give out, and like my parents still have them, 110 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: and they says, like I believe in magic. 111 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: The Strong Brother's Magic Show we had capes and top hats. 112 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 113 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'd see that. 114 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: But I was never any good at me either, Like 115 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: like I remember, like my I was the one who 116 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: talked like I did all the like lecturing and talking 117 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: and picking people from the audience and whatnot. And I 118 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: always remember like when it came time to actually do 119 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: the trick, like when you had to like swap the 120 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: thing with the other thing or like to the sleight 121 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: of hand, I would be. 122 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: Like, do I have to do that? 123 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: I don't want to do the actual mad I want 124 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: to do the actual magic. 125 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: I just want to do the talking. 126 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: You wanted to be the director, yes, yeah, you wanted 127 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: to be the director of the magic duo or the 128 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: host right right right? 129 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: Yeah? 130 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean I I'm I have like a lifelong love 131 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: for Penn and Teller. Like it was the first Broadway 132 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: show I ever saw when I was ten years old, 133 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: was pent Teller on Broadway and I. 134 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Got the great audience for that. That's a great show. 135 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: They were so great, And like I want to be 136 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: the penduleette. 137 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: Like he actually can't do magic, but he is also 138 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: the lesser of the magician, Like he doesn't do as 139 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: much sleight of hand. 140 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: He does all the talking. And I'm like, yeah, that's 141 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 3: I could do that. 142 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: You went to clown college. 143 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love magic. 144 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Me too too. 145 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: I'm upset, me too. I was a member of the 146 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: Magic Castle. 147 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Can we go to the Magic Castle? 148 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: Let's go. 149 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I want to go. I just went. 150 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: I hadn't been in years, and I just went. I 151 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: used to be a member when I lived in a 152 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: little canyon. 153 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: I would go all the time. 154 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: I want to go. I really do. 155 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: I love magic? 156 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: All right, let's go. Have you guys heard my my 157 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: on a plane magic story? No? What? 158 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: No? 159 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: I sat next to David Blaine on a plane. 160 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Did you really though? Or was he not? Actually? 161 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 4: The good question? Good question? But I sat next to 162 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: him on a plane, didn't know who he was, wasn't like, 163 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: wasn't like a this was a long time ago. And 164 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: he didn't say a word to me the whole flight. 165 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: And then right before we landed, I was sitting in 166 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 4: the window, he was sitting in the aisle. He said, 167 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 4: can I do a card trick for you? 168 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: And I was like, this guy, this guy with Danielle, 169 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I know what it can be. 170 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: Like No, I was like, oh, god, well, and I 171 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: thought to myself, at least if he's going to be annoying, 172 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 4: he waited until the very end of the flight, right, 173 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: that's fine. So I go sure, and he pulls out 174 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: a deck of cards and he shuffles them up and 175 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: he fans them out and he asks me to pull 176 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: a card, and I pull a card and I look 177 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: at it and I put it back in the deck. 178 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: And then he takes the deck of cards and he 179 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: shuffles them again, and then he throws them at my 180 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: closed window on the plane and the cards go everywhere, 181 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, it's a fifty two card pickup joke. Click, 182 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: what is this? So he's like, oh, oh, you know. 183 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: He starts picking up the cards and then he goes, 184 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: is this your card? 185 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: Is this your card? 186 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: No? No, he goes, oh, well, why don't you lift 187 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: up your window shade? And I lift up my window shade, 188 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: and my card was between the plates of glass. Between 189 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: the plates of glass, I can see my card, I 190 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 4: can knock on the glass. My card is behind it, 191 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: and then there's another piece of glass behind that. It 192 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: is between the plates of glass, and it's stuck there 193 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: for a stuck. I don't know. I don't understand the trick. 194 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: I was then like, well, this is a sorcerer. 195 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: Magic. I will follow you. 196 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 5: This is an important question. Was your window open at 197 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 5: all during the flight? 198 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: I don't remember. 199 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: I don't remember, because if you were looking out the 200 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: window and there was no card there and then you 201 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: shut it and then it's between the things, he is, 202 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: in fact a sorcerer. 203 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: I don't I don't remember. I don't know. I don't 204 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: Usually he must have done this, No, he does. 205 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: Every time he does. 206 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: He does the flip. 207 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: The flipping one at bars is the big one he 208 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: would do. He w'd flip it at the bar and 209 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: then the card is on the other side of the 210 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 5: glass of the bar. 211 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: But it's like the other one he does. 212 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: He has the cool when he goes up to you 213 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: in a bar and he asks you to pick a 214 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: card and write your name on it, and you slip 215 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: it back. 216 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: Into the debt. You put it back in the debt, 217 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: and he does this. 218 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 5: And then it's not in there, and you're drinking a 219 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 5: beer and you look down and it's wedged in the neck. 220 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: Of the bottle of the beer you're drinking. 221 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: You have to reach all the way in and pull 222 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 5: it out, and there's your card with your name on it. 223 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the stuff is insane. 224 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: Now. I have since that time become somewhat close to 225 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: a couple of magicians and have told the story and 226 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: have been like, how is it? Is it possible? And 227 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 4: they go, yeah, it's a it's you know, it's possible. 228 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's it's it's all set up before. I mean, 229 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: that's why I'm asking. 230 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: It's just a force cut. 231 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 5: But well, yeah, they're they're you know, he's he's thinking, 232 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: you draw the card, he wants you to draw correct, 233 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: and then he's already pre set it somewhere in the world. 234 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: But I'm just curious how he gets it in between 235 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: the panes of glassar on the. 236 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 4: Other correct, that's the correct thing to be wondering about 237 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: how I pulled the card. 238 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: He wants me because again, you decide to If. 239 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: You all of a sudden open your window during the 240 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: flight and you're like, why is there seven of clubs 241 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 5: and you don't know who you're sitting next to you, 242 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: then it would be ruined. That's why it's so bizarre 243 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: kind of how he did all that stuff? 244 00:09:59,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Is it bizarre? 245 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 4: Okay? There it is? 246 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Should we talk about this no baseball? I think we should, 247 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: But I had no idea that. Apparently we say the 248 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: word bizarre a lot. 249 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: I don't think I do. I think it's you two. 250 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: I do all the time. 251 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: Well that's bizarre. 252 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: You. We've gotten a lot of emails that you guys 253 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: say bizarre and. 254 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: It does it? 255 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 5: Do they really say it's right or I they specifically 256 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: say it's not you because I I just. 257 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: Noticed listening to the show when we at it, I'm like, oh, there, 258 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: I am saying that word again. 259 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 6: Definitely. 260 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, we're trying to take it out of our vocabulary. 261 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: Vocabulary vocabulary right. Welcome to bond Mead's world. I'm Danielle Fischel, 262 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 4: I'm right. 263 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: Or Strong, and I'm Wilfordell the Magical Will. 264 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: Today's episode is very special to me. We often mentioned 265 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: the unsung heroes of Boy Meets World, the names of 266 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 4: people who don't get the type of credit given to 267 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: the on camera cast or upper level creatives molding the 268 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: script and the storylines. But still without these people, the 269 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 4: show would have never made it past the pilot. And 270 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: if you ask anyone who's ever worked on a TV 271 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: show that starred children, they will tell you just how 272 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: important the legal guardians are. As we have detailed in 273 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: the past, labor laws prevent child actors from working too 274 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 4: many hours or under certain conditions, but most importantly, they 275 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 4: require any miner to always be accompanied by an adult 276 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: on set. The protective measures are not just union rules. 277 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: They are important to make sure the child is comfortable 278 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: and safe, and so these adults, commonly parents, would have 279 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: their own culture on set, an environment they didn't technically 280 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: work at but still couldn't leave. They were close to 281 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 4: each other. They talked often, shared notes and gossip, and 282 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: even hung out offsets, sometimes all experiencing this very weird 283 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: new life together, giving up their own personal lives and 284 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: watching their babies grow up on a stage, living a 285 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: very unique Hollywood existence. We know that writer eventually petitioned 286 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: to become an adult himself, and Will roamed the streets 287 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: as freely as a teen like a young Robert de 288 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: Niro and taxi driver. Yeah, just live in the life. 289 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 4: And he only had a couple years as a miner 290 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: on Boy Meets World anyway, But I well, I was 291 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 4: always with my mom. Jennifer Fischel, her name has frequently 292 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: come up on Pod meets World, whether as the keeper 293 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 4: of the hair, the woman who produced full photoshoots of 294 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: me with teen heart throbs for my sixteen magazine column, 295 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 4: or the audition tutor who stayed up all night to 296 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: help me land the role of Tapanga. We were and 297 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: still are incredibly close, and she knew these two guys 298 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: very well because these are my childhood friends and she 299 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: is the mom, even if we were on TV. That's 300 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: a dynamic we all know as kids. And so we've 301 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: gotten a ton of requests from listeners to hear from 302 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: my legal guardian, and we figured it's finally time so 303 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 4: to tell us what it was like to raise a 304 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 4: child actor on the set of Boy Meets World. In particular, 305 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: me welcome Jennifer Fischel to the podcast Hill. 306 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: It's so good to see you. 307 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: I'm so good to see you. Guys. This is gonna 308 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: be fun. 309 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: I think, Oh, you think, I'm so glad you're willing 310 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: to do this. I'm so glad you're doing this. 311 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 6: Of course, all these friendly familiar faces. 312 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm here too. 313 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Oh thank you. 314 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: I just appreciate that. 315 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 6: As I was waiting for my time to come up, 316 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 6: I just saw that on the that Pod Meets World 317 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 6: had posted that. 318 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: So happy birthday, Thank you very much. I'm forty seven. 319 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 4: I know, I can't. 320 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 7: Believe my god, Well you're still a baby compared to me. 321 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Well that's very sweet. Thank you. Yeah. 322 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want to feel young, just you know, 323 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 6: hang out with old people and. 324 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 7: The way to do it. 325 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 4: Yesterday my mom I had to Jensen and I took 326 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 4: the kids to the mall and Adler had to go 327 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 4: to the bathroom while we were in the mall, so 328 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: I took him into the family lounge bathroom and we're 329 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: sitting there and he's on the toilet and he looks 330 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: over and there's a red dot on the wall, like 331 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: an emergency button, and he goes, Mom, what's that what's 332 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: that red dot? And I said, oh, it's an emergency 333 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 4: button and he said, well, why would you need that? 334 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: And I said, well, in case somebody was in here 335 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: and they fell or they needed help, you could push 336 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 4: that button and help would come. And he said, well, 337 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: why would they fall? And I said, I don't know. 338 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: Maybe they're significantly older and not very stable. And he goes, like, 339 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 4: you, you're older and I went, no, not like me. I 340 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: don't mean me. 341 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean much older people. 342 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: So I tell my mom that and she says, remember 343 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: how when you were twelve, all the adults on Boy 344 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: Meets World were old. Yes, your son sees you that way. 345 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, no, yes, yes, it's me. 346 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 6: I mean I used to think people my age were 347 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 6: just so old, and you know, it's. 348 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 7: Like now that i'm that age, like, no, don't I 349 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 7: don't feel. 350 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: That at all. Yeah, I'm not old. Yeah. So I'm 351 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: going to allow writer and Will to ask the questions 352 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: they want to ask, but also I like to I 353 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: guide these little interviews. So I'm going to start with 354 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 4: a question for you. What do you remember thinking when 355 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: I told you that I wanted to act when I 356 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: was like ten years old, and I just decided, well, 357 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: guess what I want to do? This. What do you 358 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: remember thinking, what were what was your thought process? I mean, I. 359 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 6: Remember thinking that it was just like when your kid 360 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 6: says they want to take gymnastics or they want to 361 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 6: play soccer or whatever. It's like, well, well, you know, 362 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: I mean, at first, I didn't really think much of 363 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 6: it because I figured it was something that you just 364 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 6: thought you wanted to do at the moment, but it 365 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 6: would pass. But then, you know, when I realized you 366 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 6: were serious about wanting to do it, I really thought 367 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 6: it was going to be one of those things you 368 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 6: started and you didn't like and would end up you know. 369 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know who knew. 370 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: Well, we heard that you were the first one to 371 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: essentially tell Danielle that she was not a gymnast. 372 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: She took gymnastics. 373 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I listened to these podcasts. 374 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 7: I'm a little behind. 375 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 6: I have to catch up on, but I listened to them, 376 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: and there are so many times I just feel like, oh. 377 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: No, I want to jump in. 378 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 6: I want to correct that, because you know, that was 379 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: a fact. It was like when she said she was 380 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 6: a gymnast, you're really not a gymnast. 381 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: No one's arguing with you. This is my favorite thing 382 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: about my mom, She'll go, you know, I wanted to 383 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: jump in and correct you. And then the way she 384 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 4: corrects me, she goes, that's a fact. 385 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: Yes it was a fact, but you were just doing gymnastics. 386 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: It was a knowledgemnist. 387 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 6: I think when you're hearing things being said about you, 388 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 6: like I think, okay. 389 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 7: People don't know me. 390 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 6: Like the one thing, can I just say one thing 391 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: that haunts me is when you were talking about the 392 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 6: time that we were in the car and you were 393 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,359 Speaker 6: singing like Selene. 394 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: And I thought, that. 395 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: Makes me sound like the meanest mother ever. But because 396 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 6: she didn't preface it by saying our family just had 397 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 6: this this sarcastic sense of humor with each other. 398 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 7: So I don't remember that. 399 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't remember that, but yeah, that's probably something 400 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 6: I absolutely said. 401 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 4: Again, does not mean spirited, just right, Yeah, I. 402 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: Think I think we all know that you are incredibly 403 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: supportive as yeah and yeah, just yeah. Danielle's every other 404 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: every story has supported the idea that Jen Fisher is 405 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: responsible for this amazing person. 406 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: In so many ways. So yeah, I think that that's 407 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: that's clear. 408 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So I think you're being honest with her about 409 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: her singing was probably also a healthy side of the 410 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: same coin, totally. 411 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: You know, trust me, We've all been around kids whose 412 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 4: parents have told them they're good at everything and they're 413 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: just not and those children are insufferable. That's true. 414 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: We wouldn't have American Idol without it. 415 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 4: That's true. 416 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 6: And I mean, I can't sing, and I'm the first 417 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 6: person to admit I absolutely nobody wants to hear me sing. 418 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 6: But you know, that would have been a playful comment 419 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 6: that I that I would have made. But when I 420 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 6: heard it, I'm thinking, Okay, all these listeners don't have 421 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 6: any idea like who I am or what I'm like, 422 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 6: and they certainly didn't understand our family's sarcastic sense of 423 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 6: humor with each other. 424 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 4: So okay, So. 425 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: I want to know when did it actually change for 426 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: you from the hobby the activity to like, oh gosh, 427 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: this is this is actually going to be a huge 428 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: part of not only my daughter's life but my life 429 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: as well. Was it before Boy Meets World or was 430 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: it boy Meets World? 431 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 4: Was it? No, it was Boy Meets World. 432 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 6: It was it was that phone call that we got 433 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 6: in the car that she has talked about that I mean, 434 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 6: not that I knew that that it was going to 435 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 6: end up turning into like a regular character, but isn't yet. 436 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: That's the problem is you were season three and it 437 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: still hasn't yet. 438 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: Still not every episode season, not even close at this 439 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: point before I'm barely in the show. I'm barely in 440 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 4: the show in season three? 441 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 7: How have I forgotten so much? Because she's like, yeah. 442 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 4: The writer always knew. Writer has said he always knew. 443 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 4: He he's remembered that he felt it. 444 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 3: It was a. 445 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: Transition to Judy Savage when you went to the Savage 446 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: Agency and you got an actual. 447 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: Contract with the show. 448 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: I mean it was all it was like very nuts 449 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: and bolts work stuff, you know, like you're not a 450 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: regular until fourth season. And that season. 451 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 7: Three was when she was in every episode. 452 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was two. 453 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 5: I thought starting season two on, you were a huge 454 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 5: part of the show. And so did to get that yeah, step. 455 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 7: Oh, So, like I said, I'm I'm behind. 456 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 6: I have several episodes I need to catch up on, 457 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 6: and I don't always watch the episode well you know 458 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 6: before I listen to the podcast. But I remember most 459 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 6: of the episodes, and I thought season three you were 460 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 6: in everyone. 461 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 4: No, finally Wow. But so what was it about Boy 462 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: Meets World that made you feel like this was a 463 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: life changing thing? 464 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 6: When we got that call, it was, it was life changing, 465 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: partially because we knew that was kind of intended to 466 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 6: be at least a recurring role, not a series regular. 467 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 6: But then of course when you did become a series regular, 468 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: that was like a whole new thing. And then it 469 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 6: was just of course, you know, wondering at the end 470 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 6: of every season as you guys, well remember not knowing 471 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: if you guys are going. 472 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 7: To be picked up or not. But yeah, I mean, I. 473 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 6: Don't know because I felt like I remembered every last 474 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 6: detail of that whole thing. 475 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 7: But I realized how. 476 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 6: Much I've forgotten listening to you guys talk about it. 477 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I have forgotten a lot. 478 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: It's funny because I remember leaving my first commercial audition 479 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 4: and walking out and my mom being so nervous for me, 480 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 4: like that was the first time she had ever sent 481 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 4: me into an audition room. She had no idea really 482 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: what was gone, you know, what went on in there, 483 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: Not that it was a problem, but just like what happened. 484 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 4: And I came out and she was like, yeah, you 485 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: just send your kid into a space and now they 486 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 4: have this this experience that you're not a part of. 487 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: And I remember walking out and her being like, so, 488 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: how was it telling me? And just right away I 489 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: was just very like, yeah, well I got it. And 490 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: I remember just seeing in her face, Oh, I have 491 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: failed this child, like this is going to be bad 492 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: because where did you get this false confidence? We did 493 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: not prepare you enough for this. You're not going to 494 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: get this like Danielle, you get far more nos then 495 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 4: you're going to get yeses, and her like a large 496 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: part of the drive home was her saying, well, did 497 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: you know did they tell you that? No, they didn't 498 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: tell me that. Okay, then why do you think that? 499 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: We just felt really good. I did a good job 500 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: and I got it. Yeah, and her being like okay, 501 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 4: all right, And then later that night getting a call 502 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 4: back and her being like, okay, well guess we'll back you. 503 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: Got she's reading the room. 504 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: But it is just a callback. It's still not getting it. 505 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: And then going back to that same exact audition place, 506 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: walking in, walking out of the room, seeing my mom's 507 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: same face, how did it go? And me saying, yeah, 508 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: I got it, I got it? Did they tell you 509 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: that now. No, they didn't tell me that now. They 510 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: just and her being like okay, well no, and then 511 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: I booked it, and and and her being like. 512 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: Okay, that's really remarkable. So you actually didn't have that 513 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: much rejection. 514 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 4: Because the first commercial audition I had that I booked. 515 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: Then after I did that commercial, I ended up doing 516 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 4: multiple commercials for the same people without having to audition anymore. 517 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 4: It was like Mattel, I just became still audition. Oh 518 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: did I Yeah you did. 519 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 7: You still had an audition. 520 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 6: But of course once you got in with Mattel, it 521 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 6: was easier to you know, loved it when you got 522 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 6: a matel audition. 523 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: One of the girls was ATel and just walking around like, Wow, 524 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: this child actor thing is super easy to do this. 525 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 6: And that was my fear, is that I didn't want 526 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 6: her going into it, like I didn't want her to 527 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 6: feel beat up. 528 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 7: I mean, she was ten, you. 529 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 6: Know, I didn't want her feeling like, you know, being 530 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 6: rejected for a part was you know, like, I don't 531 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 6: want you feeling bad about yourself. It's not you did 532 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 6: anything wrong, it's just that there are a lot of 533 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 6: kids out there that are really great at what they do. 534 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 6: So yeah, I kind of felt like, oh boy, this 535 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 6: is giving her kind of a false sense of security. 536 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 7: But I mean, I think really what it. 537 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 6: Boiled down to was the whole industry terrified me, you know, 538 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 6: on so many different levels. And then at some point, 539 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 6: you know, when it kind of evolved into more like, okay, 540 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 6: this is what she's going to be doing, it was 541 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 6: it really was just kind of like wow, what did 542 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: we get into? Yeause, you know, and there was always 543 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 6: a fear of having to kind of stay ahead of 544 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 6: things as a parent, because I was very fearful, and 545 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: you know, I was a very protective parent. That's just 546 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: my parenting style. I was very protective, and so there 547 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 6: was this fear that if you don't stay ahead of 548 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 6: it once, once it goes sideways, you've lost control then, 549 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 6: you know, and we've all seen it with a lot 550 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 6: of people that kind of alive by the industry. So yeah, 551 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 6: it started out as something that we were just gonna 552 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 6: let her try, Let's see how this goes, and she'll 553 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: probably do it for a while and get bored with 554 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 6: it to all of a sudden like oh is this 555 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 6: really what you. 556 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: Really want this? 557 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: Did you did you feel alone in those moments? 558 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: Or did you know, like, did you have allies, like 559 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 2: who were the people that you could trust to be like, 560 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: am I doing the right thing by my daughter? Or 561 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 2: did you feel completely isolated? 562 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 6: I didn't really have any friends or anything that had 563 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: kids that were in the industry. So, I mean, writer, 564 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 6: your mom was just a huge confidante. I mean, and she, 565 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 6: you know, we would talk so much, not only about 566 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 6: the business, but you know, of course even just you 567 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 6: guys as teenagers. We were raising teenagers with which is 568 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 6: a challenge in itself, so you know, and then also 569 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 6: Lee's mom, you know that first season with you know, 570 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 6: kind of the touch and go with the whole topanga thing. 571 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: You know, the other moms were huge support. 572 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: I was going to ask how auditioning affected her career 573 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: as a gymnast, but I think. 574 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: What pretty amazing. 575 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 5: What I really am interested though, is do you remember 576 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: the first call for fish Girl for Boy Meets Old? 577 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean, before it. 578 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: Was even the possibility of tapanga. I mean, this was 579 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 5: probably just another random audition. 580 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah it was, And. 581 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 6: No, I don't remember really like going to that audition. 582 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: It was just another audition. 583 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 5: But then we're also driving from Orange County at this point, right, 584 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 5: so you're in just a regular audition? 585 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: Is what an hour and a half in the car 586 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: each way? 587 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, let's see when she was on boy Mee's World, Danielle, 588 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 6: were we already in Calabasas at that time. I think 589 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 6: we had moved to Calabasas right before. 590 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 7: Boy Mes World. 591 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 4: It was right before boy Yeah, it was so. But 592 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: even still from Calabasas is no small feat either. 593 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, a little bit better than Orange County, but. 594 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, not did moving closer have anything to do with 595 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 5: Daniel's career? 596 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't. 597 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: My dad. My dad got a job in our Lida 598 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: and our Leita is very far from Orange County and 599 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: is also very far from where we moved to Calabasas. 600 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 4: But it was kind of like they they literally just 601 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: picked a neighborhood based on where good schools were. Calabasas 602 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 4: has like Blue Ribbon areaals and it was close enough 603 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 4: to our Leda that my dad's commute was only going 604 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 4: to be like thirty minutes a day or forty minutes 605 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: a day rather than two hours from Orange County. So 606 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 4: it just and it just also then just so happened 607 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: like and we'll be closer for auditions. But you know, 608 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: one of my favorite things thinking now, of course that 609 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: I have kids, and you think about all the things 610 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 4: parents sacrifice for their children. But like when I said 611 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: I wanted to be an actor, no one in our 612 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 4: family had been an actor. UI had no idea. The 613 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 4: internet didn't exist. How you actually even try to become 614 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 4: an actor is not wasn't like readily available. My mom 615 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: went to the bookstore and bought a book on like, 616 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: so your kid wants to be an actor, basically like 617 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 4: you want to be an actor for dummies. And then 618 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 4: she read that and they said, if you want to 619 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: do this, what you have to do is you have 620 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: to take pictures of your kid on a camera, a 621 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: regular camera, film camera, print him out, write how it's funny. 622 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: I wrote a book too. My parents had a book too. 623 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: It was yellow. 624 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: There was a profile of the kid who I think 625 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: was in like the Stuart Little movie, like the old 626 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: Stuart Little movie, like or nod wasn't Stuart Little, it 627 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: was another It was like Ralph the Race car Mousers. 628 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: I don't know he had been in like one movie. 629 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: And but they we had a picture book like literally 630 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: followed him around through his career that explained how to 631 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: be an actor, and like, my mom got this at 632 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: the library and we all read it as a family 633 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: and it was like, this is what you do. You 634 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: have to have an agent, take acting classes. 635 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 3: You got it. 636 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: And it was like you get a headshot because we 637 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: didn't know what to do, like none of that, none 638 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: of that information was available. 639 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so she read a book and then was 640 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 4: just like, all right, let's do it. So she took 641 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: her she she took the photos of me, wrote my name, 642 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: my age, the color of my eyes, my hair color, 643 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: like what would go on a headshot, a description, and 644 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 4: then they're in the book was a list of agents, 645 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 4: a ton of agents, and we picked. How many did 646 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 4: we pick? 647 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 7: I don't know, maybe maybe ten. 648 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: I'm thinking we sent maybe ten and I think we 649 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: heard back from maybe six or seven. 650 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, So she sent those out, good photos and by 651 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: the way, how do we how do we even pick them? 652 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: Just like a Meani mini mo the pictures? 653 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 7: No, the agent agents? 654 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 655 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 7: So pretty much. 656 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 4: These guys these again, I don't. 657 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 6: Really remember that clearly, but how else would we have 658 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 6: done it? 659 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: I know, did you you just go all right? 660 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I like the name of the address you mail it in. 661 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: So she mailed a group of pictures. We heard back 662 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: from six or seven. Did we meet with all of them? That? 663 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: I think we met with three and I don't even 664 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 6: remember who they were. 665 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: That's a big that's a big my parents thing that 666 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: I still to this day do when you're getting quotes 667 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 4: or estimates, you pick three and you get and then 668 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: you go with the middle one. Someone's way, Yeah, you 669 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: go with the middle, the middle I probably you know safe, 670 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: You're safe. 671 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 6: There pretty much my standard philosophy when you're getting quotes 672 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: on things. 673 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I still do more the cheapest. 674 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: Or the cheapest, right. 675 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing. 676 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: But when you think about it, that is an interesting 677 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 5: thing about Boy Meets World because you obviously had Ben Savage, 678 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 5: who was part of the Savage family, so they well 679 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 5: knew what they were doing, they knew the industry, they 680 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: had a clock. But then there were the rest of 681 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: us who, Yeah, my dad had a friend in New 682 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 5: York City who sent him Yellow Pages, and we went 683 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: through the Yellow Pages after taking pictures in the back 684 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 5: of his office and just mailed them to random managers 685 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 5: in New York City. 686 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean we so when you didn't know what you 687 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: were doing. It's just that's all you. 688 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: Do, like there's nothing, because it's one thing to do that. 689 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: For your own career, right, which takes a certain amount 690 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: of courage to just be like, I want to do this, 691 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: But when you're doing that on the on behalf of 692 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: your child, it just seems so fraught, like exactly what 693 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: you're saying that I would just be so scared that 694 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to hurt my kid in some way that 695 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: you know that they're never going to be able to 696 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: recover from this rejection or whatever the industry is gonna, 697 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, choose. 698 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 6: I'm so glad to hear you having like fearful thoughts 699 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: as as a parent now that you're a parent, because 700 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 6: I used to always feel like you had such strong 701 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 6: opinions about. 702 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: My parenting stuff. 703 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 7: Really really, like I say. 704 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 6: I was such a protective parent. I mean, and I 705 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: was not one of these parents that just felt like, 706 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 6: you know, let kids make their own mistakes, no, no, no, 707 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 6: I was, well yeah, and it worked great for you, 708 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 6: you know, I mean, your parents' parenting style was completely 709 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 6: different than mine. 710 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 7: Worked great. 711 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 6: You and Shiloh are awesome, But me being the fearful 712 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: control freak that I am. 713 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 7: That was just polar opposite. 714 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 6: So I always felt, you know, Danielle and I would 715 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 6: have an argument about something, and I could always tell 716 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: when she talked to Writer, because then. 717 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 7: Danielle would come back with her with her opinions. 718 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: I'm person and you're being incredibly superficial and holding me back. 719 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 7: And I. 720 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 6: Remember one time Danielle and I don't even Rember what 721 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 6: it was about. We had a big argument about something, 722 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 6: and you know, then she came back and she had 723 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 6: her you know, whole new set of opinions that I'd 724 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 6: never heard her have before. And then we were passing 725 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 6: you in the This was when you guys were at 726 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 6: Radford and you know, like the outside like balcony hallways 727 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 6: type of things, and we were passing and Writer, I 728 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 6: swore you gave me a dirty look. 729 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure I did. I'm sure I was so self righteous. 730 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, just stifling your daughter and not letting her be 731 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: her own self and your she's not going to be 732 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: a great artist unless you let her free. 733 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure I was a I'm so sorry, so sorry, sorry. 734 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 6: I mean it was great because I always saw you 735 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 6: as being like a forty year old man and a 736 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 6: you know, sixteen year old body, and you had your 737 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 6: belief system and it was like, great, So I have 738 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 6: like a fourteen year old and a sixteen year old 739 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 6: who disapproved of my parents. 740 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 3: Exactly, do you feel better? 741 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: I highly disapproved of my mom's parenting too, so and 742 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: she felt, trust me, she felt that all the time. 743 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: She couldn't have been more free or like. 744 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: Just disapproved of parents anybody who had any authority. 745 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you were you were an adult, yeah, exactly. 746 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you wanted to raise yourself. 747 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: Yes, one of the things I have to ask, that's 748 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: very important. 749 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 5: So obviously we've Daniel's told us the whole story about 750 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 5: you know, getting the part going from fish Girl to Tapanga. Yeah, 751 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: and then everything that entailed that first week. 752 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: How tough, How tough was that week on you? 753 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 5: We know how tough it was on Danielle, but how 754 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 5: tough was seeing what she was going through on you 755 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: that week? 756 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 6: I think as a parent, in some ways, I mean, 757 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 6: I'm sure daniel would disagree with with me, but I mean, 758 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 6: as a parent, I kind of wonder if in some 759 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 6: ways it was harder because you know, you have that 760 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 6: Mama bear come out. You don't want anybody or anything 761 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 6: hurting your child, and to see her under that much pressure, 762 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 6: I think that's when I started questioning, like. 763 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 7: What have we done? Like is this even what I 764 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 7: want for her? 765 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 6: And that run through was the most nerve wracking run 766 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 6: through ever, and then Michael called us down. 767 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 7: Afterwards. We were sitting at the kitchen, the set kitchen. 768 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 6: Table, and he was going over no, this was before 769 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 6: before that run through where he was going over everything 770 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 6: that he wanted to see from her, and we were 771 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 6: both listening to it and we were both working on it, 772 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 6: and oh my god, that was stressful. 773 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 4: I remember you and me and Michael sitting in that 774 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: kitchen set at that table going over those those notes. 775 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 4: And then we had yeah, and then we had that 776 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 4: night and we stayed up. Literally you stayed up with me. 777 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, you know. 778 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 6: And it was funny because I was listening to Michael's 779 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 6: notes and knowing these notes are this is these are 780 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 6: extremely important notes, and then we're working on it and 781 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 6: I'm coaching you and like, what do I know. I've 782 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 6: never been an actor in my life. 783 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 7: I don't have to coach somebody for it. 784 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 6: But just based on what he was saying, and I 785 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 6: knew the most difficult thing for you, especially when you 786 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 6: were nervous, was going to be slowing down down the 787 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 6: way he wanted you to slow down. 788 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: Yep. 789 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 6: So and it felt very unnatural. I thought, I thought 790 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 6: it sounded really unnatural, like who talks that slow? 791 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, and because you talk fast too, so I 792 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: you know, you're helping me do something that was hard 793 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 4: for both of us to do. 794 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 7: Because you I kept saying slower, yeah. 795 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: Slower, flower, slower, no matter what. 796 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 6: Exactly, I was doing my coaching job by just. 797 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: Slower, slower, slower, slower. And I do remember it being 798 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 4: a big help that you had been there for all 799 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 4: those notes, because obviously, when you are the person getting 800 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: all the notes and it's hard to take them in 801 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: you're you're. 802 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 5: Especially when you're twelve, your brain come on. 803 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: Of course, not you're just trying to please you ever 804 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: sitting in front of me, and it was. 805 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 6: Like you guys have said before, like you know, page 806 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 6: by page. 807 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: Of page one line one exactly. Yeah, page one line too. 808 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: I had notes for every single one of them, and she, 809 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, wrote them down and had them there for me, 810 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: and then we stayed up until three or four o'clock 811 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 4: in the morning, and then went to sleep for a 812 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 4: couple hours. You know, I probably had to be on 813 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 4: set at seven or seven thirty for school school. You remember. 814 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 6: The timeline of that was that on Friday, and then 815 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 6: we know the weekday. 816 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: Was when I got the part. Then on Monday we 817 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 4: would have first run through and so I had just 818 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 4: that night, so we did have. 819 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 7: To be up early the next morning. 820 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had to be well. 821 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 6: That was That was extremely I would say, equally as 822 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 6: stressful for me as it was for Danielle. 823 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: Being a parent, it was more stressful for you as 824 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 4: stressful as it was for me. It was more stressful 825 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 4: for you. 826 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment of We're not doing this? 827 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 5: Was there ever a moment of walking, you know, with 828 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 5: the notes and everything, being like this this, we're not 829 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 5: We're not I'm not putting my daughter through this that ever. 830 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 6: For that that particular time, Yeah, I. 831 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: Mean, was there ever an idea that you were like, 832 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 5: we're we're ending this. We I'm sorry, I'm not gonna 833 00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 5: I'm not this is too intense. 834 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 6: Oh, I don't think any of us in our family 835 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 6: are quitters. I think, you know, at that point in time, 836 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 6: it's it's you know, literally I just wanted her to 837 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 6: survive the next run through, and it was kind of 838 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 6: like a I don't think I really thought beyond get 839 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 6: through this run through and you know, make sure you 840 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 6: give him what he wants to see, and then we'll 841 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 6: deal with whatever happens. 842 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: You're either going to. 843 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 6: Still be on the show where you're not, we'll deal 844 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 6: with it then. But I don't think either one of 845 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 6: us ever entertained let's not do. 846 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: This no, And had that moment come later in life, 847 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: like later in the career where you were like, maybe this, 848 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: maybe Danielle, we should not be doing this anymore. 849 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 6: Or the only thing that would even come close to 850 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 6: that what would be and Danielle would remember this vividly, 851 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 6: is that in poor Danielle. Because she was my first child, 852 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 6: I was protective and like when I became a mother, 853 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 6: it was like. 854 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 7: Don't screw this up, don't screw the SEP, don't screw 855 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 7: this up. 856 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 6: So I would always anytime, you know, when she was 857 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 6: twelve when she started the show, which is like right 858 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 6: around the time you guys get into your icky teenage 859 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 6: years and you start rebelling a little bit and stuff 860 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 6: like that. So whenever I saw some of that coming 861 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 6: from her, I didn't just think, yeah, she's a teenager, 862 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 6: al right. 863 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 7: I thought it was Hollywood. She's a Hollywood, she's training 864 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 7: into a Hollywood bread. Can't let that happen. 865 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: Can't let that happen. 866 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 6: So she was threatened all the time that the day 867 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 6: this isn't good for you anymore. And I meant getting 868 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 6: into the wrong things, hanging around with the wrong people, 869 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 6: you know, becoming yeah, like you know, too full of 870 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 6: yourself or whatever, not just the stress of you know, 871 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 6: like with her becoming topanga, but like the more serious things. 872 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 6: I always threatened, it means nothing to me. We're doing 873 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 6: this for you because this is what you want. So 874 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 6: if ever I see that it's not good for you anymore, 875 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 6: we'll pull the plug. 876 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 4: Had I ever even remotely expressed to my mom I 877 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: didn't want to do this anymore, I would not have 878 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 4: been doing it anymore. Yeah, I was the opposite. I was, 879 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: don't lose this for me. Every negotiation was I'm willing 880 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 4: to do it for free. Literally every negotiation was please, 881 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 4: whatever you do, just don't you know. I and I 882 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 4: bought into hearing, you know, people in power on the 883 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 4: show say like, Danielle, you know, if you don't need 884 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: your agent's asking for too much, they're not going to 885 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 4: give it to you. You know, you could just get off 886 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 4: the show. The minute I would hear that, I'd go 887 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 4: right back to my dad, who was working with Judy 888 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: Savage or whatever my agent whoever my agent was before that, 889 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 4: and be like, don't you dare lose this for me please? 890 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 8: I would do it first, which is why they would 891 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 8: tell you that, which is exactly. 892 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: Why they tell you that, because you know you would 893 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: they would. 894 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 5: You would run to your parents going, no, you're making 895 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 5: this too Dard, you're making this too hard. 896 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 4: It's they told me I could be fired. Yeah, And 897 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 4: so if anything, it was the opposite where my mom 898 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: did use it as like a threat. For you know, 899 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 4: if I was like, I'm tired, I don't want to 900 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 4: do my chores. I've been working all week, my mom 901 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, you know what, You're probably right, having 902 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 4: a full time job and going to school is probably 903 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: too much for you. I guess that means, well, we 904 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 4: just won't do this because I don't want to do it. 905 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: Do you think I want to be the one driving 906 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 4: you every single day to a set, sitting there like 907 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 4: do you think I want to do this? What am 908 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 4: I getting out of this? Yeah? 909 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, who came up with the idea for the hair? 910 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 6: Oh that was Michael, trust me, I want to be 911 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 6: braiding her hair. Yeah, that was his suggestion, and that's 912 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 6: how that started. 913 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 7: It's so funny for her. 914 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 4: I have a suggestion for you. Have you thought about 915 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 4: spending two and a half hours every night before a tape? 916 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: Night? 917 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 4: Bid? 918 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 7: Not my idea. It took forever braiding her hair. 919 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 6: And it's so funny because again I think I have 920 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 6: such clear memories back then. But then Danielle and I 921 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 6: as we were watching like the first season, it was like, yeah, 922 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 6: that death was not braid, that was cramped or that 923 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 6: was curled or whatever. 924 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: I felt like I. 925 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 6: Had been braiding her hair forever. 926 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's what it felt like. 927 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 7: And when when Michael finally gave in and like allowed 928 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 7: it to be I. 929 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 6: Think first crimped and then maybe curled, I was so happy. 930 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 7: It was like, oh thing. 931 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: I remember my mom saying to me and thinking, oh, 932 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 4: look at her, like can't wait to see how this goes. 933 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 4: When she was just like listen, I'm going to tell 934 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 4: them that I'm either not going to do this anymore 935 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 4: or they're going to have to pay me because all talk, yeah, 936 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 4: and all you really wanted is just to not have 937 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: to do it anymore. But she was like she you know, 938 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 4: it was like as if this wasn't already enough of 939 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: a strain on the whole family that, like, you know, 940 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 4: my dad was working full time. Now I have a 941 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 4: full time job. My mom also has another child. She 942 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 4: has my brother who's four years younger than me. So 943 00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: she has an eight year old and a twelve year 944 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 4: old and now on at least every Tuesday and then 945 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 4: possibly Wednesday night then too. How did we have the 946 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 4: crimped hair? Did we night? Yeah? 947 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 6: Because once she slept on it, it was just frizz 948 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 6: It wasn't like you know, yeah, no way to do 949 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 6: it both nights. 950 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,919 Speaker 4: And so now I have to washing that long hair. 951 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,959 Speaker 4: Took a long time. Then I have to blow dry 952 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 4: that long hair, which also took a long time, only 953 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 4: to about ninety five percent dry. And then the minimum 954 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 4: of how long would you say it took to braid 955 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:29,919 Speaker 4: my hair? 956 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm going to say two hours just 957 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 6: braiding it, because it was a bunch of time you 958 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 6: saw how crimpy that that was tiny braids? Yeah, trust me, Will, 959 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 6: I would have never suggested. 960 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: Ooh man, wow. 961 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 962 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 3: All right. 963 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 5: So I want to get into something that I think 964 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 5: is going to be pretty important at some point, which 965 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 5: is young Danielle's teen bopper dates. 966 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 4: Oh my god, as. 967 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: We've seen, uh, basically all you have to use. 968 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 3: Tiger magazine and she did my single one of them. 969 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 7: Do you writer who she had a crush. 970 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: She tried, who she had a crush on? 971 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 4: You would have never dated me. He didn't approve of 972 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 4: my mom, forget the way she was. 973 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: Really just held back. 974 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: The way you were raised is just not right. Can 975 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: you did you? 976 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 5: Were you all for the Jonathan Taylor Thomases and. 977 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 7: They loved Jonathan? 978 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? I did. 979 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: They were all good guys, by the way, like literally 980 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: everybody like Andrew Keagan was a good guy. Yeah, Matt 981 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: Lawrence obviously was a great Like. I feel like all 982 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 2: these people that she's that she dated were really. 983 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 7: They were all Yeah, they were all really good guys. 984 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 1: What did you think when she brought home Lance? 985 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 6: I loved Lance too, of course great guys. Give anything 986 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 6: for him to be gay at the time. I loved him. 987 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: They were all did you have an inkling? Did you 988 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 1: have an inkling? 989 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 4: I did, Danielle. 990 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 6: I said that to her because I said, you know, 991 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 6: I just said, you know, I'm just going to throw 992 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 6: this out there, but do you think there's any possibility 993 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 6: that maybe he's gay? 994 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 7: And She's like, yeah, no. 995 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 4: No, it's definitely not that I can read a person. 996 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: Mom, he's just religious. 997 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 8: It's just Jesus. 998 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but no. 999 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 6: I mean I loved all of them. They all had 1000 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 6: spent a lot of time at our house hanging out, 1001 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 6: and I got to know them on a very you know, 1002 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 6: personal level, and they were all very very polite and 1003 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 6: sweet and good to Danielle and. 1004 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 5: So beautiful young man. Who was your favorite? Who was 1005 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 5: who the bopper or tiger beat one that got away? 1006 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 6: For Danielle, I would have to say that would be 1007 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 6: a toss up between Lance and Jonathan. 1008 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1009 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 4: I was going to say, you would say Jonathan because 1010 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,800 Speaker 4: Lance I didn't have a chance Lance. 1011 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 7: No. 1012 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 6: But I really liked Lance a lot too. He was 1013 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 6: like and I knew Lance was was different in such 1014 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 6: a good way, like you know, his southern upbringing. She 1015 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 6: was so polite and just so you know, respectful of everything. 1016 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 6: And I had met his mom on the phone prior 1017 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 6: to him coming. When you know, he actually stayed at 1018 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 6: our house, you know, in the downstairs room, and I 1019 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 6: wasn't you know, I almost didn't even let that happen. 1020 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 6: And then I actually talked to a friend of mine 1021 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 6: and she's like, you know, he's in hotels all the time, 1022 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 6: and you know, like, what's wrong with it if he's 1023 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 6: you know, So it's like okay, And so I told Danielle, Okay. 1024 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 7: We're going to allow that, but these are the rules. 1025 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 6: And then I was still uneasy about it to a 1026 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 6: certain extent, and once I met him, it was like, no, 1027 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 6: he will completely. 1028 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 7: Respect the rules. 1029 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, but no, I. 1030 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 6: Adored I adored Jonathan. He was just so he spent 1031 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 6: a lot of time out of. 1032 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 4: Time at our house. Yeah, yeah, I was all. I was, 1033 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 4: you know, super close to my family, like we my 1034 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 4: idea of fun involved friends coming over. It didn't involve 1035 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 4: like friends and then leaving my family's house. It was 1036 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 4: like having my friends come over and and just whatever 1037 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 4: we wanted to do, whether that was watching TV or 1038 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 4: messing around. I mean we used to swim a lot, 1039 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 4: Like I don't really even know what we did, but 1040 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 4: it was just we spent a lot of time with 1041 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 4: my family and so, I mean, Jonathan was a staple 1042 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 4: in our house, Like Jonathan was at our house all 1043 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 4: the time. And Jonathan was Jonathan was too sweet for me. 1044 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 4: Jonathan was Jonathan was he really was? Yeah, no, Jonathan, 1045 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 4: Jonathan was too good for me. Let's put it that way. 1046 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: Okay, you still even at that age, like the touch 1047 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: of the bad boy. 1048 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I needed a little touch of a bad boy. Also, 1049 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 4: Jonathan was so mature for his age, like he really 1050 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: wanted a like I still to this day, as you 1051 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 4: guys know, love a chain restaurant. I just wanted to 1052 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 4: go sit in a red robin and sit cross legged 1053 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 4: in a booth and order French fries and chicken fingers. 1054 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 4: And Jonathan's idea of going on a date with me 1055 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 4: was like, I've made reservations at seven pm, I'm going 1056 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 4: to be wearing a suit, put on a dress. I'm 1057 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 4: going to come and have a car pick you up. 1058 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 4: And I was like, is this supposed to be fun? 1059 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 7: Like I just I just sat her. 1060 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 6: Do you have any idea? 1061 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 4: Was to say, some day you're going to that at 1062 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 4: this and I was like, I just want chicken fingers. 1063 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: So, yeah, Jonathan, you're four thirteen, fourteen. 1064 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 4: You guys. 1065 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 7: Well, and no, because yeah, fifteen for sure. 1066 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 6: Because I remember you guys were getting your permits. And 1067 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 6: Jonathan drove my car one time. We were driving down 1068 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 6: Bureau and he was going so slow and people were 1069 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 6: getting so mad behind her honk and her horn and 1070 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 6: casting us. 1071 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 7: You know, it was so funny. 1072 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: I remember Jonathan saying he wanted to to get matching minivans. 1073 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 8: Oh wow, yeah, mother, you can see why. 1074 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 5: I'm like. 1075 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 7: Perfect. 1076 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 1077 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 4: So we recently talked about celebrity sightings, specifically because I 1078 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 4: mentioned her co Jason and how you were also very 1079 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 4: active on the message boards. What was it like reading 1080 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 4: criticisms of me, or of the show or anything online. 1081 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 4: Did you ever take it personally or or respond. 1082 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 6: I never liked reading anything negative. I mean, it's again, 1083 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 6: it's that Mama bear kind of thing. And then, of course, 1084 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 6: especially because she was linked and photographed with some of 1085 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 6: these popular boys, she would get some hate mail from 1086 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 6: that was absolutely vicious. 1087 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 4: People would send me pictures of me and Jonathan but 1088 00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 4: where my eyes were gouged out. 1089 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 3: Serial killers that is. 1090 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, that's not a vicious letter. 1091 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 5: That is there's an embarrassing press conference in that person's future. 1092 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very bad. 1093 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 6: So no, that was I mean, I don't remember a 1094 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 6: lot of like negative stuff on message boards on the 1095 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 6: celebrity sidings, because people were there because they were fans 1096 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 6: of yours or whoever's. But it was more than the 1097 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 6: fan mail that Sometimes it would be you'd get some 1098 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 6: that were just so nice and sweet that it would 1099 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 6: be the two or three that were just vicious that 1100 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 6: would stand out. 1101 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 5: Of course, that's always the way it is. You always 1102 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 5: it's just the negative comment. It's not the fifteen hundred 1103 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 5: positive comments that that yeah, so yeah, that's normal. 1104 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah that I didn't I never liked that. 1105 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 6: But well they just didn't get a signed a picture. 1106 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 4: I'm not sending you a sign, headeo. 1107 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 5: So we we ask most of our guest I'm taking 1108 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 5: over by the way, Danielle, you're you're too close. 1109 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: You're too close to this interview. 1110 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,400 Speaker 5: We asked most of our guests when they come on, 1111 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 5: what were your first impressions of the rest of us. 1112 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 4: I was curious. 1113 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 6: I adored all of you, will my you know, my 1114 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,839 Speaker 6: memories of you are all very consistent, not any one 1115 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 6: specific conversation or memory. But you always were in a 1116 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 6: good mood. You always had a smile on your face. 1117 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 6: You were always very very friendly and saying hello to everybody, 1118 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 6: and you know, and all of that that I mean, 1119 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 6: that's that's my impression of you. 1120 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 4: Writer. 1121 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 3: I was a little afraid, always in a bad mood, 1122 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 3: always in a bad mood. 1123 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: Parenting. Maybe in a corner crime. 1124 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 6: No, no, Writer, I just always thought you, like I say, 1125 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 6: you were so much more but sure than your years. 1126 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 7: Like you literally you. 1127 00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 4: You were intimidated by Writer a little bit. 1128 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit, just because I did feel without 1129 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 6: him ever having a conversation with me about him not 1130 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 6: approving of my parenting, so I couldn't defend myself. So 1131 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 6: I always felt like I always just kind of felt like, yeah, 1132 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 6: he hates me, pretty. 1133 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 2: Woah, didn't I have such only positive memories that I 1134 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 2: don't remember that. But I judged all the adults. I 1135 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 2: definitely did judge all the adults, Yeah, pretty much. 1136 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 3: Across the board. I was that guy, I was that teenager. 1137 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 6: Well you know, you were more serious to so I 1138 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 6: mean maybe sometimes like your seriousness. Maybe I interpreted because 1139 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 6: I knew every argument I had with Danielle went right 1140 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 6: to you. So maybe some of it I interpreted as 1141 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 6: being directed towards me, But maybe it was just you know, 1142 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 6: you were you were just very more serious. Yeah. 1143 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you also, as you can tell by the fact 1144 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 4: that she had to come on the podcast and immediately 1145 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 4: clear up those misunderstandings were what she said was actually 1146 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 4: those are all true. She also doesn't like not being 1147 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 4: able to have her side of the story told, and 1148 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 4: so she knew we would get into an argument and 1149 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 4: I'd go immediately to my best friend, right or strong 1150 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 4: and tell her everything from my POV and she'd be like, oh, 1151 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 4: what is she even saying? This is such a skewed 1152 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 4: I will say this. 1153 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 7: I guarantee you you didn't get the full picture. 1154 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah. 1155 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 6: He's definitely got Danielle's perspective. 1156 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 7: I guarantee you she didn't share mine. 1157 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 2: So okay, wait, with among my friends, like in every 1158 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 2: friend I had in my life, it was always us 1159 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: against our parents. Like that was a dynamic that really 1160 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 2: operated from within. 1161 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 5: Yes, dude, you were so close to your parents, at 1162 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 5: least that's how I saw it. 1163 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: That I never noticed that. 1164 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: I yes, I actually you know eventually, but my mom 1165 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 2: and I struggled from fourteen through sixteen. It was awful, 1166 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Jennifer can remember, like when I was 1167 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: driving my permit and Danielle was probably in the car 1168 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 2: for some of that. It was awful and like I 1169 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: needed to get my own apartment, like I needed to 1170 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 2: get out of my own like but but I when 1171 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 2: I think about it now, like a lot of my friends, 1172 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 2: that was a big part of our dynamic was like, 1173 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 2: you know, our parents are or their parents were. Always 1174 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,399 Speaker 2: they would come to me to complain about their parents 1175 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: and I'd be. 1176 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they don't get us. 1177 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: I don't understand them. 1178 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 3: We're so awesome and them. 1179 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 4: Like you can just do something. No other teenager has ever. 1180 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: Gone the world. 1181 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 3: Have teenagers been in love? 1182 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 2: Like me felt as you know everything the first feel 1183 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 2: this because my license before. 1184 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 3: The age of sixteen was unfair. That is like that. 1185 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 2: It was like, wesh, I can't wait to change the 1186 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 2: laws now, Oh my god, people should kids should not 1187 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 2: drive until their twenty five, no doubt, And I like, 1188 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 2: nobody should drive until the twenty five years old. 1189 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, no, back. 1190 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,719 Speaker 6: Then, I love that now though you see things more 1191 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 6: from you know, a parent's perspective, but you can still 1192 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 6: also you'll be able to as Nandy gets older, you'll 1193 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,359 Speaker 6: also be able to understand, you know, his perspective of things, 1194 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 6: because I do feel like with with my kids, I 1195 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 6: do feel like I tried to always stay one step 1196 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 6: ahead of them as far as like avoiding them getting into. 1197 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 7: Too much trouble. But a lot of that also came 1198 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 7: back to I remember. 1199 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 6: What it's like to be your age, you know, so 1200 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 6: you know I'm not stupid like you know, I know 1201 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 6: how to get around things, and so I would always 1202 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 6: look at it like I'm going to beat them to it. 1203 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 6: I already, but you know when I was that age, 1204 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 6: this is what. 1205 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 7: I would have done. 1206 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 4: I told you, guys this, I don't know. The phone 1207 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 4: call such an absolutely genius. When my mom would ground us, brilliant, 1208 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 4: she'd leave the house. You'd go, I'm not grounded, you're grounded, 1209 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,399 Speaker 4: so I'm leaving. I've got stuff to do. But part 1210 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 4: of your grounding is that you're not supposed to be 1211 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 4: on the phone. So I called a number that you 1212 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 4: don't know, and when I come home, so clever and 1213 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 4: when I come home, I'm going to make sure and 1214 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 4: then i'd hit redial to see if I could. I'm 1215 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: gonna what is this number? And it would be hello 1216 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 4: the current time. You'd be like, what is this There's 1217 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 4: a number you can call for time, and I never 1218 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 4: to know what it was, and we didn't have the 1219 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 4: internet to google it. I had no idea what it was. 1220 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 4: So she would be like, audios, I'm out, and she'd 1221 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 4: get to go do whatever she needed to do, and 1222 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 4: I'd just be stuck inside the house. 1223 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 6: You know what, you weren't grounded a lot, like I 1224 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 6: kind of save that for the big things. I can 1225 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 6: really only remember two times you were really grounded, other 1226 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 6: than maybe when you were younger, and it would be like, Okay, 1227 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 6: go to your room, a little calm down kind of thing. 1228 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 6: But I only remember you being grounded twice, and I 1229 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 6: wanted to ask. 1230 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: You about that. 1231 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 2: So your perspective, your perspective. 1232 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 5: You're sitting at home, it's now ten, ten thirty and 1233 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 5: she has not come back from Disneyland yet, with that 1234 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 5: good Mormon boy, with that good Mormon boy. 1235 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: What is going through your mind at this point? 1236 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:51,800 Speaker 6: A complete fluctuation between so angry and so scared because 1237 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 6: I just I mean, I felt like we had a deal, 1238 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,239 Speaker 6: you know, and I felt like and right before she 1239 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 6: left that more because she was going to Disneyland straight 1240 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 6: from school. She wasn't even coming home first. So I 1241 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 6: said to her before she was leaving, now, remember we 1242 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 6: have a deal. You will be home at midnight, because 1243 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 6: I think Disneyland was open until midnight. And I told her, 1244 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 6: don't stay until it closes and then come home. You're 1245 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 6: home at midnight, and that's the agreement we have. If 1246 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 6: you're going to be allowed to go, that's our agreement. 1247 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 7: She's like, oh, yeah, no, I love you, I love you. 1248 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 7: Thank you for talking to dad until four o'clock in 1249 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 7: the morning. 1250 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 6: And she leaves. And then and again, Jeff. I loved him. 1251 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 6: He was such a nice, nice kid. Had spent time 1252 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 6: at our house. I had lots of conversations with him. 1253 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 6: She was so love struck. She would come home from 1254 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 6: school and she'd say, oh, look at this note that 1255 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 6: Jeff wrote me. And you know what I mean, I 1256 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 6: just really liked him. And I thought, Okay, he's older 1257 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 6: than her, but I trust him more than I would 1258 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 6: trust most fifteen year olds. 1259 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,959 Speaker 7: So I'm making. 1260 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 6: This decision based on the person, not based on you know, 1261 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 6: his age. She could have been with a lot worse 1262 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 6: who was you know, more her age. And so when 1263 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 6: the clock was ticking and it got to be after midnight, 1264 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 6: I'm thinking, Okay, there's no way, there's no way that 1265 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 6: she did not understand our deal. 1266 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 7: And I'm paging her. 1267 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 4: That was in the days of. 1268 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:26,080 Speaker 6: Paging, and she's not replying. So then I'm thinking, how 1269 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 6: well do I really know this guy? I mean, maybe 1270 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 6: she's dead in the ditch somewhere, maybe you know, maybe 1271 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 6: she's been raped, maybe they got in a really bad accident, 1272 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 6: you know, But I'm still thinking, I just can't believe 1273 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 6: she would betray me this. So when she walked in 1274 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 6: the door, I literally it was like relief. 1275 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 7: And then I wanted to kill her. 1276 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 4: I mean she did she literally it truly is that 1277 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 4: thing because now I'm going to kill you. And she 1278 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 4: did say that. I said, that is exactly what she said. 1279 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 4: She said, and I could see if if her eyes 1280 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 4: could have been laser I would have been lasered in 1281 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 4: a thousand pieces. She said, I am so happy that 1282 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 4: you are alive, and now I am going to kill you, 1283 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 4: and then my dad opened the door from above the 1284 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,920 Speaker 4: stairs and from the dark said, is she just now 1285 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 4: getting home? And she's locking eyes with me as she 1286 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 4: turns and looks up at him and goes yes. And 1287 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 4: I was that's it. I was dead, mate. I was 1288 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 4: not going to see another day. At that point in time. 1289 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 6: It was completely it was personal. This is personal between 1290 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 6: Danielle and I. So when her dad is up there 1291 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 6: and he's furious, it's like. 1292 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 7: Oh, no, no, don't you don't you. 1293 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 4: H I've got this. I will bury her, thank you 1294 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 4: very much. 1295 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, And then that was the only time I took 1296 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 6: everything out of your room. She had driving class the 1297 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,120 Speaker 6: next day. She had to get up early to go 1298 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,439 Speaker 6: to her driving class, and when she got up, I 1299 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 6: took her tea, TV out, I. 1300 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 7: Took her phone, stereo. 1301 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 6: Everything was that, And I said, all you're allowed to 1302 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 6: do for the next month is read. You cannot watch TV, 1303 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 6: you can't talk on the phone, you can't do anything. 1304 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 7: You can read. 1305 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 4: That's that. And just wasn't allowed to come over. Nohing, 1306 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't. 1307 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 7: I don't know if I've ever been that mad. 1308 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 4: That was also the grounding time that cracks me up 1309 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 4: because I just love your commitment to a bit of 1310 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 4: the bit of grounding. I know at the end of 1311 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 4: that month, we were leaving to go to Hawaii, and 1312 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 4: there was like three days of my grounding that we 1313 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 4: were in Hawaii, and my mom said, why is not 1314 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 4: exactly grounding? So when we come home, you'll make up 1315 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 4: those three days. 1316 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 1: You banked hours. 1317 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 6: I was wait glad that she wasn't like picking up 1318 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 6: the phone and calling you. 1319 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe she did. It was it was just remarkable, 1320 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, she is going to get 1321 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 4: over this by the time we got home, But she didn't, I. 1322 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 6: Know, And truly what made me more mad rather than 1323 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 6: not even so much that she blew off, you know, 1324 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 6: getting home by her curfew, but the fact that I 1325 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 6: literally stayed up. I think Dad and I were up 1326 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 6: until like four o'clock in the morning trying to convince 1327 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 6: him that Danielle just was trustworthy to be trusted, and 1328 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 6: that Jeff too that you know, my whole theory of 1329 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 6: I'm basing this on the person, not on the age, 1330 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 6: and I think we need to trust her. She's never 1331 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 6: gotten into any trouble literally, and he is not an 1332 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 6: easy person to talk into anything that he doesn't believe 1333 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 6: in So after all of that, I just it was 1334 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 6: such a betrayal. 1335 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe she did that. 1336 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, having like done this podcast, I've been 1337 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 2: talking to Danielle so much about our childhood and and 1338 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 2: her upbringing. I'm so impressed with your ability to have 1339 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 2: a relationship with her that is really a true friendship 1340 01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 2: as well as a great parent, you know, Like I 1341 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,920 Speaker 2: just think that that I admire that so much, and 1342 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 2: that's like, like I am aiming for that because like 1343 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 2: I didn't really have that with my parents. I always 1344 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 2: had a great relationship with my parents, a very loving relationship, 1345 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 2: but like you know, my mom and I were antagonistic 1346 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 2: until I got on my own and then we like 1347 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 2: kind of became like adults together even at the age 1348 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 2: of sixteen, Like and that made our relationship better. 1349 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 3: But you guys had like a real Like I didn't talk. 1350 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,440 Speaker 2: To my parents about who I was dating or what 1351 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 2: was happening, but you guys were able to share all 1352 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 2: of that, and yet it sounds like you still had 1353 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 2: enough authority and trust And I just that's like so 1354 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 2: admirable to me, and like, thank you. 1355 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 3: I am I'm emulating that in. 1356 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 7: My life compliment. 1357 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 5: It turns out you didn't know what you're talking about 1358 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 5: at sixteen, right, Yeah. 1359 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 6: Ago i'd ever be hearing this from writer crazy. 1360 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 7: But you know, I do think it was it was 1361 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 7: kind of interesting. 1362 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 6: I even realized that it was kind of different at 1363 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 6: the time. Was that neither Danielle or I ever there 1364 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,479 Speaker 6: was like no gray line. It was like we could 1365 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 6: be the best of friends. We could talk about everything, 1366 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 6: we can, you know, have great conversations and laugh and 1367 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 6: all that. But when I need to be your parent, 1368 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,000 Speaker 6: not your friend, it's not even there. 1369 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 4: There's no Yeah. 1370 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: But that's the balance though. That's what you want, you know, Yeah, 1371 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: that's what you want. So that's that's great. Yeah, I 1372 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 1: had that with my I have that with my parents 1373 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: as well. 1374 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 5: So it was always the kind of like that what 1375 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 5: we've talked about where it's the the worst thing in 1376 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 5: the world you can do is disappoint them. Where it's 1377 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 5: just like that's that crushes you, where it's like, oh 1378 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 5: my god, I disappointed my parents. 1379 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: It's the worst thing ever. So yeah, it's Uh. 1380 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 4: My mom was really like from the time I was little, 1381 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 4: she used to she was very consistent with what she 1382 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 4: used to say to me, which was, there is nothing 1383 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,640 Speaker 4: you can't tell me that we won't then be able 1384 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 4: to work through together. The only thing I cannot handle 1385 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 4: is you lying to me. Once you lie to me, 1386 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 4: I have no I can't trust you anymore. I can't 1387 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,919 Speaker 4: take anything you say at face value. So I'd rather 1388 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 4: you come to me with a thing you think is 1389 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 4: going to blow up the entire world. And as long 1390 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 4: as you're up, as long as you're telling me the 1391 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 4: truth about it, we will solve it together. There's a solution, 1392 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,919 Speaker 4: there's a There is a thing for everything, no matter 1393 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 4: what it is. And I remember being like, okay, and 1394 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 4: as a teenager or as a however old you are, 1395 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 4: when you hear that, you test it, and so you 1396 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 4: test it with small things, you test it with like 1397 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 4: this little bit. And she never, she was never. That 1398 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 4: was not a lie. I could tell her truthfully anything, 1399 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 4: And even if I could tell where she was like gulp, 1400 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 4: don't gulp, Yeah, she would then she would then go, Okay, 1401 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,959 Speaker 4: let's let's talk about it. Let's And so we did 1402 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 4: have a relationship where I felt very comfortable coming home 1403 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 4: and letting her read the notes from the boys I 1404 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 4: had crushes on and telling her exactly what I was 1405 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 4: thinking and feeling about all of them. And she knew 1406 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 4: that she could trust me because she did know that 1407 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,800 Speaker 4: I was being There wasn't anything I was hiding. So, 1408 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 4: like writer said, I also just be like Jen Fischal, 1409 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 4: that's all I want. 1410 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 6: Be like, Yeah, of course, I always say, yeah. 1411 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 4: You know, parenting is. Parenting's tough. 1412 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 6: It definitely is, and you know you just kind of 1413 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 6: have to figure it out as you go along. And 1414 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 6: you know, obviously I've made mistakes and I have things 1415 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 6: I regret too. I mean one of them being I 1416 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 6: feel like I was probably harder on Danielle. One she 1417 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 6: was my first and two I had not only teen 1418 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 6: years to deal with, but the fact that you know, 1419 01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 6: by the time she was a teenager, she was you know, 1420 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 6: people recognize her, and she was exposed to a lot. 1421 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 4: Of things and all of that. 1422 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 6: So I I probably was harder on her, honestly. I 1423 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 6: mean I've told her that when you. 1424 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,960 Speaker 4: Say that, maybe one of your regrets is that I 1425 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 4: should have been allowed to watch nine O two one 1426 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: oh when I was twelve. 1427 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 1: She can't go. 1428 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 4: I don't even watched it now. It was only cool 1429 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 4: when you were twelve. 1430 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,439 Speaker 1: It was only cool when you were. 1431 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 4: Twelve, you know. 1432 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 6: And you know that was another thing too, is like 1433 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 6: I never understood because when we lived in Orange County 1434 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 6: before we moved to Calabasas, it was literally like we 1435 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 6: might as well have moved to a different country as 1436 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,080 Speaker 6: far as how different. 1437 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 4: Orange County was much more conservative with their parenting. I 1438 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 4: actually grew up around a lot of my friends were Mormon. 1439 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 4: They had very strict rules, and so no one in 1440 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 4: Orange County at twelve was watching nine O two one. 1441 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 4: Oh but no. 1442 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 6: And we moved to Calabasas, and like she's, you know, 1443 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 6: her friends are going to R rated movies, and it's like, 1444 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 6: what in an R rated movie does a twelve year old. 1445 01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 7: Need to be seeing? No, you can't go. 1446 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 6: I knew when we moved to calib Bassis I was 1447 01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 6: not going to be the popular parent, that's for sure. 1448 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know. 1449 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 6: But I mean, those are the things that I really 1450 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,680 Speaker 6: don't regret. I think if I had to raise kids 1451 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 6: all over again, it would probably I'd probably do a 1452 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 6: lot of the same things, if not even more protective. 1453 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 4: Because so then what do you regret you just said 1454 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,400 Speaker 4: one of your regrets you want to regret. 1455 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 6: Being because I think sometimes I was literally looking for 1456 01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 6: should I be worried about this? 1457 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 7: Should I be worried about that? 1458 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 6: I mean it was I was like, but you know, 1459 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 6: I was a nervous nelly, And so I think a 1460 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 6: lot of times I would look for things and maybe 1461 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 6: read between the lines. Rather than giving you the benefit 1462 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 6: of the doubt and maybe asking questions, I would be 1463 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,439 Speaker 6: more like, well, suspicious, thinking you had an attitude yeah, 1464 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 6: or very suspicious. But I don't know, because I mean, 1465 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 6: we are who we are, So I think my my 1466 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 6: protective instincts as a parent, I don't think that would 1467 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 6: go if I was doing it all over today, and 1468 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 6: I think it would be worse because you guys have 1469 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 6: the Internet and social media, and that scares me. 1470 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 7: I'm glad I didn't have to deal with that. 1471 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and her getting recognized a lot as a teenager, 1472 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 5: I mean, luckily that doesn't happen at all anymore. Danielle 1473 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 5: never gets recognized anywhere, which is great. Traveling with her 1474 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,480 Speaker 5: is just the easiest thing in the world. 1475 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: It's awesome, no problems at all. 1476 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 4: She looks exactly the same you all do. 1477 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 7: You all do it's so weird. 1478 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 4: You now have grandchildren, you have Adler and Keaton. What 1479 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 4: would you say if Adler or Keaton wanted to get 1480 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 4: into acting. 1481 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,440 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously I would. It's none of my business, 1482 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 6: so do you whatever you and Jensen decided, I would 1483 01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 6: fully respect and support. If it were my choice, I 1484 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 6: would say no. 1485 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1486 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 5: Wow, that's a solid answer, though, that's a solid answer. 1487 01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I felt that way sometimes with Danielle 1488 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 6: even was like, if I had to do this all 1489 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,840 Speaker 6: over again, knowing what I know, not that not that 1490 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 6: I think after she was on the show, you know, 1491 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 6: even hearing stories about a lot of the other kids. 1492 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:25,320 Speaker 6: I mean, you guys kind of went through a time 1493 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 6: where there were a lot of teen celebrities kind of 1494 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,639 Speaker 6: really going. 1495 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, going off the rails. 1496 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, really bad. 1497 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 6: So those times I would kind of think, I don't 1498 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 6: know if I would do it all over again, Not 1499 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 6: because her experience was bad, but because just because. 1500 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 7: Of the fear of it. 1501 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, risk, it does scare me. 1502 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's a lot and as a parent, 1503 01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 6: you can't control as much as you can when you're 1504 01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,240 Speaker 6: a kid is just going to school and you. 1505 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 4: Know, hanging out with their friends. 1506 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,479 Speaker 6: I mean, there are a lot of things that you 1507 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 6: guys were exposed to, and like a lot of adult 1508 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 6: that saw you guys as their friends and their peers. 1509 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 6: And you know, it's why Danielle had adults giving her cigarettes. 1510 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: Which who did that? I never wanted it. 1511 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 7: To be you because and Danielle will probably regret this. 1512 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 7: She'll probably be like, darn it, why didn't I tell 1513 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 7: her it was Will? 1514 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,799 Speaker 6: Because when she came home that day, and David Combs 1515 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 6: was the one who told me she'd been smoking. So 1516 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 6: when she came home, you know, of course I'm making 1517 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,519 Speaker 6: her like, dump out your purse because she she met 1518 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 6: me cigarettes on her. It's like, who's giving you cigarettes? 1519 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 6: She did not want to tell me. She did not 1520 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 6: want to tell me we were so you're gonna tell me. 1521 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,240 Speaker 6: You know, this isn't over until I know who's. 1522 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 7: Giving you cigarettes. 1523 01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 6: And if she would have said Will, I would have 1524 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 6: been like, all right, Will is her peer. I can't 1525 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 6: hold that against you too much because that's what friends do. 1526 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:49,280 Speaker 7: And I probably would have said you. 1527 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 6: Will, don't do that. Don't make it easy on her. 1528 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 6: She's gonna be stupid enough smoke. 1529 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 4: Let her do it. 1530 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 7: On her own. 1531 01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:57,599 Speaker 6: But when I found out it was two adults that 1532 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 6: worked on the show, I was just like, no. 1533 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 4: That's not okay with me. 1534 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,440 Speaker 7: That's just not okay. 1535 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,200 Speaker 6: And then she's just begging me, please, please, please please, 1536 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 6: I don't call them. 1537 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 4: And it's like such a terrible feeling to be a 1538 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,639 Speaker 4: kid and you're going to get an adults you should 1539 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 4: not have involved want them to get. 1540 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Giving cigarettes to it. 1541 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 4: They're clearly the ones, Yeah it's you call? 1542 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:24,599 Speaker 1: Did you call? 1543 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 6: Oh? 1544 01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 7: Yeah I did? Yeah, absolutely I did. 1545 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 6: There were two of them, and yeah, they they got 1546 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 6: a piece of my mind. And because I just felt 1547 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 6: like and like I were you, I wouldn't have done 1548 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 6: that to you. 1549 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 2: I also wouldn't share breaking the law like you know, 1550 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 2: like that. 1551 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Smokes. Yeah. 1552 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1553 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 6: And as a parent, and now Danielle and Wryter, you 1554 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,280 Speaker 6: can probably relate to that a little bit. 1555 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 4: It's like, if your. 1556 01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,600 Speaker 6: Kids are going to make mistakes and they're going to 1557 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 6: do stupid things like start smoking, that's on them, But 1558 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 6: I don't want adults making it easy on them. 1559 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 7: These are adults that you. 1560 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 4: Know, you trust. 1561 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 2: You're trusting the work environment to be a space where 1562 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,479 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff doesn't happen. 1563 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't wait to get off 1564 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:15,000 Speaker 6: Mike and find who it is. 1565 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 4: But you could see how how those lines can be blurred. Yes, 1566 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 4: I'm mature, Will smokes, you know, and it's obviously now 1567 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 4: as an adult myself, I go, oh my gosh, how 1568 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 4: do you do? I would never imagine any of us 1569 01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,720 Speaker 4: on Girl meets World giving those kids cigarettes exactly. 1570 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 6: And I think, like, you know, when I found out 1571 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,439 Speaker 6: that it was too adults, and I just I was 1572 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 6: more mad after learning who it was than I was 1573 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 6: in the you know, to begin with. But you know, 1574 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 6: you kind of gauge things by like how would you 1575 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 6: be in that situation? And there is no way I 1576 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 6: would have ever, ever, ever considered somebody younger that couldn't 1577 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,479 Speaker 6: buy cigarettes or alcohol asking me to buy it for 1578 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 6: him and being like sure, yeah, no, right, So I 1579 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:07,759 Speaker 6: couldn't even comprehend that that was a choice that they made. 1580 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 4: And that's another. 1581 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 1: Thing, though, you this business does that. 1582 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 2: Well, wait, Will, how were you getting cigarettes? Because you 1583 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 2: were sixteen when. 1584 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 5: I started buying I started buying cigarettes at eleven, and 1585 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 5: know when you were buying cigarettes on Boy walking into 1586 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 5: a store and buying. 1587 01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 3: Them, they just weren't checking your ID. No, of course not. 1588 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 5: And again it was strange because I never I didn't 1589 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 5: start drinking till I was like twenty five, so I 1590 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 5: wasn't like trying to buy alcohol or doing this stuff. 1591 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: But nobody ever batted an eyelash. But with selling what ever? Ever? Yeaheah, 1592 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: different time. But it's also not only is at a 1593 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:39,599 Speaker 1: different time. 1594 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 5: It's what we've talked about about being on a set 1595 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 5: where it's like, oh, you're a professional actor, so you're 1596 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 5: not twelve. It's like, no, you're a professional actor and 1597 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 5: you're still twelve. 1598 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 3: I mean, but. 1599 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 2: Smoking was way more in the culture back then. I 1600 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 2: mean think about it with smoking bars, you know. Yeah, 1601 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 2: so like in the nineties, the idea that like a 1602 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 2: teenager would be smoking wasn't Now that like now it 1603 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 2: seems so black and white. 1604 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, when you're eleven years old walking the streets 1605 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 5: in New York City smoking a cigarette. 1606 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: There is nothing better. Let me tell you, I believe 1607 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: you will. 1608 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:10,600 Speaker 4: I believe you. 1609 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,280 Speaker 1: It's so crazy, that's the greatest. 1610 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 4: My last question for you is something I actually want. 1611 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 4: I want to brag about you for a little bit. 1612 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,000 Speaker 4: Since you spent almost a decade of your life being 1613 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 4: my guardian on set, and in addition to raising a family, 1614 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,640 Speaker 4: you have my brother who is four years younger than me. 1615 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:35,679 Speaker 4: Later in life, in your fifties, you decided to follow 1616 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 4: your own dream of being a makeup artist, and you 1617 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 4: went to makeup school and you have started a bridal 1618 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 4: makeup business, Melamichi Beauty, And for over a decade you 1619 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 4: have been a professional makeup artist. Yeah, can you tell 1620 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 4: me a little bit about that and like why you 1621 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 4: wanted to do that and just what your day to 1622 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 4: day is like now. 1623 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 6: Well, I always probably remember me saying this, but like 1624 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 6: I always loved makeup first of all, but like even 1625 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 6: when you were working on Boy Meet's World, I loved 1626 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 6: being in the hair and makeup room. 1627 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 7: You know, I just loved the whole process. 1628 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 6: And I always said, if I was ever going to 1629 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,400 Speaker 6: have a job outside the home, that's what I would 1630 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 6: want to do. And then when I was trying to 1631 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 6: figure out what I was going to do in my 1632 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 6: early fifties, fifty to fifty two, whatever I was, you, 1633 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 6: Danielle were the one. You're probably the reason I'm doing it. 1634 01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 4: You. 1635 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 6: I think I threw it out to you, like you know, 1636 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,679 Speaker 6: it's kind of sort of considered going to make up school, 1637 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:42,120 Speaker 6: but who does that at my age? Like I felt 1638 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 6: almost silly wanting to do that. And then I thought about, 1639 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 6: like I had this whole mean girl's vision about going 1640 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 6: to school with a bunch of you know, young people 1641 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 6: learning to do makeup, and you. 1642 01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 4: Were so supportive of it. 1643 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,759 Speaker 6: You were so encouraging, And you actually are the one 1644 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 6: that found the school I went to, which happens to be, 1645 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,160 Speaker 6: in my opinion, and I think a lot of other 1646 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 6: people's opinions, one of the best schools out There's. 1647 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,040 Speaker 4: Say the name of the school, give it a plug. 1648 01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 7: Well it's no longer she knows the school. 1649 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, now she just kind of travels all over the 1650 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,479 Speaker 6: world and does boot camp. You know, she still teaches, 1651 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,880 Speaker 6: but she does boot camp. So I would give it 1652 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 6: a plug, but it no longer exists. But anyway, so yeah, 1653 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,719 Speaker 6: and it was the best decision I ever made because 1654 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 6: the school process. 1655 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 4: Was so much fun. 1656 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm still in touch with so many of 1657 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,600 Speaker 6: the people I went to school with. And yes, I 1658 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 6: was the oldest one in the class, but nobody held 1659 01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 6: it against me. 1660 01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:40,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I love what I do. It's just so 1661 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 7: much fun. So yeah, so I do. 1662 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 6: I work mostly with brides, love it, and I am 1663 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 6: with them on the biggest day of their life. And 1664 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 6: I don't get bridezillas. That's what everybody. 1665 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 4: Always asks me. 1666 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it can be, but honestly, I'm really 1667 01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,759 Speaker 6: lucky because I have had such great brides and and 1668 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 6: you know, and then of course I'm very organized and 1669 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,919 Speaker 6: so the morning everything goes smoothly. 1670 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 4: But I love it. 1671 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 7: It was the best decision I ever made. 1672 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,679 Speaker 4: So where can people find you? Where can people find 1673 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 4: you if they want to hire you for their wedding? 1674 01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 4: Where can people find you? Okay? 1675 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 6: So I'm on Instagram at at Jenfischel, and my website 1676 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:25,320 Speaker 6: is bellami chie Beauty and it's Bell not Bella Bell. 1677 01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 4: B E l l E and then M E B 1678 01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 4: E l l E A M I C I dot com, Yes, 1679 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 4: beauty dot beauty dot com o beauty. Okay, we'll get 1680 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 4: write it in the caption. 1681 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,679 Speaker 7: Okay, very good because I clearly don't spell. Were well 1682 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,680 Speaker 7: on the spot. 1683 01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,120 Speaker 4: Well, mama, mommy, thank you so much for being here 1684 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 4: with today. 1685 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 6: Always great to see you, know both of you guys, 1686 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 6: well you too, yell, But I. 1687 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,160 Speaker 7: See you more off, I see you all the time. 1688 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,840 Speaker 7: These two, I don't see you all the. 1689 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 5: Time, usually only see in the in the midst of 1690 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:08,520 Speaker 5: a three four year old birthday party. 1691 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 1: And doughnuts and all that stuff. 1692 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't make it this year. 1693 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,679 Speaker 4: Next time. 1694 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 6: I think Andy was sick this year. But yeah, it 1695 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 6: was always good to see. It was fun talking about 1696 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,080 Speaker 6: old times and and writer. I'm glad you donate me. 1697 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 3: Don't appreciate it so much. 1698 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:32,320 Speaker 4: I love you guys. Bye. Oh man, I love that lady. 1699 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's good because she's your mom. 1700 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:36,680 Speaker 4: I know, right, it's a good thing that I love her. 1701 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:37,919 Speaker 1: She's got some great insights. 1702 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, she's pretty awesome. 1703 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: I just by the way, Danielle, she used to buy 1704 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 1: me cigarettes all. 1705 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 6: She did. 1706 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,520 Speaker 4: For the record, she want to jump on the podcast 1707 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 4: and clarify. 1708 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,920 Speaker 2: They must have been a period we didn't get into this, 1709 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 2: but there must have been a period where she was 1710 01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,760 Speaker 2: actually the only parent left on set, right because. 1711 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 3: Linda Bridge mom. 1712 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, so but. 1713 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, like and and and then yeah, I'm trying to 1714 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,919 Speaker 2: remember like because I have such clear memories of the Moms, 1715 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 2: right that first season and then second season. It must 1716 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,559 Speaker 2: have continued, But yeah, I mean my mom stopped coming 1717 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 2: by third season. 1718 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,720 Speaker 4: There at a certain point my mom did there there 1719 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 4: is a rule where you can sign your child over 1720 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 4: to another adult. There still needs to be two adults. 1721 01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 4: The teacher is responsible for the child and the and 1722 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 4: and then there needs to be a guardian. And I 1723 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 4: don't I don't remember who the guardian was that my 1724 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:40,080 Speaker 4: mom would sign me over to. But there were days 1725 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 4: when my mom couldn't be there because she needed to 1726 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 4: do something for my brother, or she needed to do 1727 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,560 Speaker 4: something just with her own life where I would be 1728 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 4: signed over. So she wasn't there for like every single 1729 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 4: day all day for you know. And then obviously, as 1730 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,280 Speaker 4: we've seen, she's only there every so often because I'm 1731 01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 4: only in like what eight episodes in season three, So yeah, 1732 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,960 Speaker 4: but still, I mean, talk about a commitment for a 1733 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 4: whole family, you know, it's real commitment. Anyway, she is 1734 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 4: truly the best. So anyway, thank you guys for joining 1735 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,639 Speaker 4: us for this episode of Pod Meets World. 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