Speaker 1: I Am all In, will kiss you. I Am all
Speaker 1: In with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Hey everybody,
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, this is I Am all In Podcast. We're
Speaker 1: very excited. This is our first episode and we have
Speaker 1: a big gun coming in to talk to us right away.
Speaker 1: Right off the bat, we're giving you the big people.
Speaker 1: It's Yanni Truesday, ladies and gentlemen. That's it, Bunk, You're
Speaker 1: looking fantastic. Okay. All the plastic surgery, it doesn't I
Speaker 1: haven't done that yet. I think I'm well, let's talk
Speaker 1: after all right, because it's like I'm in real neat.
Speaker 1: How how you are you in Australia. I'm in Australia.
Speaker 1: It's nine am for me. I woke up early just
Speaker 1: for you. You know you're there. You're a first guest.
Speaker 1: Oh really, you're the first guest. You're the first guy
Speaker 1: I wanted on. I said, what the what's the occasion
Speaker 1: or what's like? I know very little. I just said
Speaker 1: yes and here I am. But you're my name. It's
Speaker 1: a yes. You don't even have the right, so what it?
Speaker 1: What's going on? This is a podcast for I heart
Speaker 1: so and we're and and I'm having you know, everybody
Speaker 1: that wants to come on the show just sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, banter with me and take a walkdown memory.
Speaker 1: That's your first podcast ever, ever, I've never done a
Speaker 1: podcast before. Wow, that's so funny. Where would I you know?
Speaker 1: I did a I was a guest on a podcast
Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago. The producer and
Speaker 1: I hit it off, and then I don't know about
Speaker 1: nine months ago, I called her and said, what about
Speaker 1: this idea? And she goes, sure, let's do it. That
Speaker 1: was as simple as that, And I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it unless True's Dale is the first guest right out. Yes,
Speaker 1: well there you go and a recurring guests. And I
Speaker 1: fought for you and I want there you are? How
Speaker 1: are you great? We're moving into our new place tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so we're a little influx for the last couple of months.
Speaker 1: Is the house is remodeled, and you know, I saw place.
Speaker 1: Where is that? May? I asked, um, it's a little
Speaker 1: closer to the beach. Let's just yeah, because I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to get your addressed. What's the address?
Speaker 1: It's got one to three Primrose Lane, any Town, America, USA,
Speaker 1: one double O Oh so that's exciting. I like the beach.
Speaker 1: That's That's one part that I enjoyed being here a
Speaker 1: lot is that the house is right on the beach.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a light change. Great. Isn't that great?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? For me? The ocean is everything? Like
Speaker 1: I regroup. Yes, yeah, so there's a ton of questions. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a ton of questions. Fans want to know. This
Speaker 1: is you know, I really I want to do this
Speaker 1: before the fans. You know, they're they're they're getting hung
Speaker 1: out to dry a little bit. We should be doing
Speaker 1: more episodes and we're not. Everybody. You're turning into this
Speaker 1: international superstar never available. You know, someone's got to do it,
Speaker 1: you know, unless that took all the room. So I
Speaker 1: want to know, and the fans want to know. How
Speaker 1: did you get the part? Tell us how you get
Speaker 1: the part? What was the process? Yes? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Well I had moved to l a uh ten months
Speaker 1: prior something like that. Um and uh, because I wanted
Speaker 1: to work in America, because my career was all in
Speaker 1: Canada and I felt like I had done it. And um,
Speaker 1: a friend of a friend, I actually actually went a
Speaker 1: friend of a friend of mine had a eight with
Speaker 1: an assistant at CIA, and she didn't want to go
Speaker 1: by herself. Can't Yeah, it's a lunch thing better. So
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't go. It's a day. She's like, now,
Speaker 1: it's not a date, just comp Anyway, I was so
Speaker 1: embarrassed to be there and be in the way that
Speaker 1: I was trying to be funny and entertaining during that lunch. Well,
Speaker 1: little did I know that this assistant became an agent
Speaker 1: six months later and did find me funny and had
Speaker 1: seen the breakdown for Gilmore and I didn't have an agent.
Speaker 1: He called and he said I saw this part, and
Speaker 1: I thought of you, do you have an agent? Like
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that would be my first audition
Speaker 1: in L A G. Yeah wow. Yeah. Were you nervous
Speaker 1: when you went in? Were you a little bit nervous?
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're you're a real professional. I mean
Speaker 1: you're really a trained theater actor. Do you get an
Speaker 1: was I don't really get nervous when I'm prepared rights
Speaker 1: because I got the script last minute and like I
Speaker 1: don't know the words, but if I'm prepared and I
Speaker 1: know the lines and stuff, So I was not I
Speaker 1: was not nervous. I was excited because it was my
Speaker 1: first audition to UM. But yeah, so and then I had,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, gazillion callbacks. It took it took
Speaker 1: a while. Really, that's because it was it was a series.
Speaker 1: It was written as a series regular. Part the series regular.
Speaker 1: No one knew me um and so I had to
Speaker 1: go back for Amy, I had to go back for
Speaker 1: a producer. I had to go back for studio and
Speaker 1: then network. So so okay, so let's talk about when
Speaker 1: you read the script initially, what were your initial thoughts
Speaker 1: on Michelle. I don't think I had the script. I
Speaker 1: had a few scenes. If you seen a couple of
Speaker 1: signs right, and you were lucky if they spelled your
Speaker 1: name right, it wasn't Rush Rushell or your dishell, you know,
Speaker 1: because they did that to me. It was Luke and
Speaker 1: the Duke. And I said, I didn't prepare the Duke. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They gave me two scenes, but one said Luke, the
Speaker 1: other said said Duke. So they said and you naturally,
Speaker 1: I thought, well, maybe that's a typo. But I didn't
Speaker 1: prepare it. And because I had three auditions that day
Speaker 1: and they said we'll go out and learn it come back,
Speaker 1: and I said, okay, thanks a lot for that, but
Speaker 1: what your part originally not a series regular, It was
Speaker 1: a guest star role on the pilot, but it began
Speaker 1: with the diner and ended with the diner, so we
Speaker 1: figured it was just a heat check anyway, you know. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a chemistry check because you know how they
Speaker 1: reshoot stuff all the time. It's like, you know, and
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was even I'm still a pon,
Speaker 1: but it was still a small I was a small, tiny,
Speaker 1: nothing p on. Back then, they could have just like
Speaker 1: recast like get out of here, go go away, they
Speaker 1: do that, but they didn't because the magic was there.
Speaker 1: The magic was there, right, so so so was it
Speaker 1: easy to perfect that accident knowing that you're you're you're
Speaker 1: from Quebec? Was that character from Quebec? Where was he from?
Speaker 1: What was that character was from? Was Parisian? Was French?
Speaker 1: And the accent is different from a French Canadian accident.
Speaker 1: But because that accident is so familiar to me, like
Speaker 1: I didn't have to spend much time on that. That
Speaker 1: was so no, no, because you just you just nailed
Speaker 1: that so huge. It was just such you know, you
Speaker 1: have this way of forcing people and I hate you
Speaker 1: for it, but I love you for it, of hanging
Speaker 1: on every single word. Um with that accident malfluus, that rolling, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it still has a bite to it. So it's it's, uh,
Speaker 1: do you consider Michelle to be rude or just honest?
Speaker 1: I think honest, honest, But in the context of a
Speaker 1: different culture, you know, because Michelle, Michelle and Paris is
Speaker 1: not rude. They're they're all they're all like him, right,
Speaker 1: put him in the context of America. He is rude
Speaker 1: because people don't speak their mind right. When they do,
Speaker 1: it's because they're being rude. He's just And the French
Speaker 1: loves to have an argument, right, You would think they're fighting,
Speaker 1: but it's just they love the conversation and the benter
Speaker 1: and arguing about the subject, just taking unpurposed the opposite side,
Speaker 1: absolutely like dissect. I mean, you just can't sit there
Speaker 1: and eat the dinner, you know, you got you gotta Yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think he is rude. No, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, so here's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: personal question. Do you think people think that you are
Speaker 1: prickly in real life? Yes, they do do, they do well,
Speaker 1: they think, because when you do something well in this business,
Speaker 1: as you know, people think you are that person. Right,
Speaker 1: So they're always first of all shocked that when I
Speaker 1: opened my mouth, when they've never seen me in anything
Speaker 1: else that I don't speak like Michelle. It's like, well, no,
Speaker 1: this is the character I'm not. But um, and then
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're so nice, You're so sweet. I
Speaker 1: was afraid to say hi to you, right right, right, right,
Speaker 1: right right, don't you. So there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: that perception that you are that character. But quickly they
Speaker 1: realize how charming I am. It's overwhelming, Yes, it's overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: Well, well well, that's why I fought so hard for you
Speaker 1: to be the debut guest on The Day podcast, because
Speaker 1: you know, they wanted they wanted Tom Crows, and I said, dude, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's got to be. Tom called me this morning. He
Speaker 1: was upset. He's still upset. He's a little upset. But
Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean, listen, I killed my chances of
Speaker 1: ever being in like Mission Impossible seventeen or eighteen or nineteen. Right,
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm out right, Yeah, I got a
Speaker 1: good word for you. Ye. So uh. He called me
Speaker 1: this morning, said, I'm removing the panic button from your fireplace. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the what's your favorite Michelle line?
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite? Do you even remember? I
Speaker 1: can't remember. It had so many yeah, so many, twenty
Speaker 1: per episode. Yeah, so it's really hard to pick. There's
Speaker 1: there's one that has stuck over the years that people mentioned.
Speaker 1: So it's the one from the pilot. People about to
Speaker 1: today all East tupid today. I can't talk to any
Speaker 1: more of them, but I still like very much that
Speaker 1: line from I can't remember which episode when there was
Speaker 1: an elderly lady at the end and she came to
Speaker 1: the front desk and that, excuse me, sir, do you
Speaker 1: know where I could find the best antiques? And Michelle's
Speaker 1: answer was at your house? I guess I I like
Speaker 1: that line a lot. Yeah. Let's uh look, listen, we
Speaker 1: cannot we cannot not talk about Lauren Graham. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just watched the pilot, and I haven't seen the
Speaker 1: pilot in a long time. I was stunned and how
Speaker 1: how great she is and how she was fantastic, nuanced
Speaker 1: and so funny and so effortless and just wow and
Speaker 1: you yes, absolutely, even even the pauses and everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just uh working on a level that you
Speaker 1: can um. Yeah, and the two of you together were
Speaker 1: it was chess perfection. So let me ask you on
Speaker 1: on a personal side. Did did the chemistry between you
Speaker 1: and Lauren? Uh? Was it? Was it immediate? Order it
Speaker 1: grow over time? I would say immediate. Um, But we
Speaker 1: became friends, so I am sure that the personal friendship
Speaker 1: that we had outside informed the work over the years.
Speaker 1: But um, but we immediately liked each other and immediately
Speaker 1: went for a coffee I think when we came back
Speaker 1: from so there was there was an instant like, oh
Speaker 1: I like you, you are right right right, and it
Speaker 1: never went away. So good, Yeah, good? And Melissa you
Speaker 1: remained friends from Melissa, what's it like working Well, obviously
Speaker 1: I'm here in Australia doing a show with her. Now
Speaker 1: we've remained friends all of these years. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: she is now kind of big actress, so I don't
Speaker 1: get to see her as much as I use you.
Speaker 1: So that's the blessing of doing this job together, this
Speaker 1: Neflix is that we can hang out and see each
Speaker 1: other and and go to dinner and all of that,
Speaker 1: right right, that's been fun to reconnect and and enjoy
Speaker 1: each other's company. We'll give her my best tell her.
Speaker 1: I said, hello, um yes, um, so listen. Michelle's favorite
Speaker 1: singer on the show is Selene Diane. How do you personally,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Selene Dion? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I've always been impressed by the talent, right, the voice, um,
Speaker 1: and and the dedication to I mean, you guys don't
Speaker 1: know this, but you know, we've known Celin since she
Speaker 1: was fourteen or thirteen or whatever age she was. And
Speaker 1: at a very very young age she said on TV
Speaker 1: and everyone laugh and she looked a little weird and
Speaker 1: she had bad teach she said she wanted to be
Speaker 1: as famous as Michael Jackson. And she said, and she
Speaker 1: I think she would. She said that, like she was
Speaker 1: not even twenties. She was like, no, you know, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate someone's dedication to their dream and she remained
Speaker 1: focused and she wanted that and she got it somehow.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was never Michael that, no one can
Speaker 1: be Michael Jackson, but it's an image and she's definitely,
Speaker 1: you know, she's world wide famous and known and hasn't.
Speaker 1: I I think that level of fame and talent, I
Speaker 1: think I think that just doesn't happen. You rarely doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: It happens. You have to want it. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to want it very very badly. Um, and then
Speaker 1: you'll put the work in and you'll you know, there's
Speaker 1: no plan B, there's no fall back plans. This is
Speaker 1: what I am. This is what that relationship with her
Speaker 1: manager that became her husband and all that. I just
Speaker 1: find the whole thing fascinating. He mortgaged his house to
Speaker 1: finance her first album, and the whole thing. It's something
Speaker 1: magical in this whole um story. So yeah, in some ways,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not I don't buy her albums and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's not my kind of music, But I do admire
Speaker 1: the town excellent. Um. So you know, I took a
Speaker 1: few throwing things from the set. I borrowed them. I
Speaker 1: borrowed them. I just I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: they were going to be well looked at. Um, what
Speaker 1: about you? What did you? What did you borrow? And
Speaker 1: what are you overseeing? What are you looking at? I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe they have uh put in storage a few of
Speaker 1: the suits. Maybe maybe I would have to look into this.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to look on the Bill of Lady
Speaker 1: see it. Maybe some wan time probably put time to
Speaker 1: be a belt who knows who knows? Hey, that's good
Speaker 1: enough for me. Um. You know there were seven of
Speaker 1: us who were in all the episodes, all hundred fifty four.
Speaker 1: What was your what was your favorite moment moments, not
Speaker 1: episode moments filming? What was your favorite moment? I know
Speaker 1: what line was? You do you do? You know? You
Speaker 1: go first? I mean, it's it's so hard. There's an
Speaker 1: episode that that was one of the most fun episodes
Speaker 1: for me was the episode when Michelle went to l
Speaker 1: A and to the prices right and he got bone
Speaker 1: tucks and veneers and all of that. It was just
Speaker 1: a lot had happened to him, and it was layered
Speaker 1: in the story how he was so so episode tickled me.
Speaker 1: Tickled me, and I remember at the table read like
Speaker 1: people laugh a lot at the stuff he had in
Speaker 1: the episode. So I think still mean that episode, uh
Speaker 1: would be the highlight because you got out of your
Speaker 1: box a little bit and it was fun and more
Speaker 1: things happening him right, like when he lost his dog.
Speaker 1: Something was happening, because otherwise Michelle was always like in
Speaker 1: and out commenting on what was happening, but rarely something
Speaker 1: happened to him right right, So what would be what
Speaker 1: was yours? You know, it's odd because people, you know,
Speaker 1: give me a little grief when I tell them because
Speaker 1: of all you know, he said, all the people you
Speaker 1: get to work with, and all those great moments you had, Lauren,
Speaker 1: all the characters. I said, yeah, but it was that
Speaker 1: was common, I said. The thing that I never got
Speaker 1: to do was to do action, and and and and
Speaker 1: all it took was a wall and a sledgehammer and
Speaker 1: uh and smashing a hole in the wall and telling uh, Jess,
Speaker 1: this is your room now, and we can You know,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of LOKs. I forget what that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I got to do something physical and you love that.
Speaker 1: And I just thought, wow, this is the first time
Speaker 1: in you know, all these years that I got to
Speaker 1: do anything like this, I know. Yeah, and walking through
Speaker 1: those bikers that you know, the bicycle racers through the thing,
Speaker 1: which I didn't receive stunt pay for and I could
Speaker 1: have been injured because they were flying around, they were
Speaker 1: going very fast and I had to walk right through
Speaker 1: them and not look at them. And then oh they
Speaker 1: were Oh yeah, you weren't there, that waday but they
Speaker 1: were zipping you know the bike race thing. There were
Speaker 1: real racers with really fast bikes. Oh my god. Uh
Speaker 1: And I did it again and again and again, never
Speaker 1: got hit, and uh, I was interesting. I find I'm
Speaker 1: discovering that I have to do a lot of stunts
Speaker 1: in the show. I'm shooting here in Australia because I
Speaker 1: play an angel um and so I have to do
Speaker 1: a lot of flying in the air and I flew
Speaker 1: out of a car the other day and all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. And I have a big battle fight that
Speaker 1: I'm training for and it's all new to me. But
Speaker 1: I love physical stuff. It's very it's very exciting. And
Speaker 1: blue screen I've never done loose screens stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: where you really have to use your imagination creating something there. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a part of it's a part of the acting brain.
Speaker 1: I agree. I love to use it more. That's why
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that moment so much, because it wasn't like, Okay,
Speaker 1: chunks of dialogue, chunks of dialogue, chunks of blocking, chunks
Speaker 1: of dialogue. Here we go now it's just like, okay,
Speaker 1: I hit the wall, all right, Uh uh okay, so
Speaker 1: you recently, well so we so we talked about so
Speaker 1: it's called God's Favorite Idiot. Yeah, and tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit about the premise, I mean, tell us a
Speaker 1: little bit. But what's happened it Basically it's Lissa McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Ben Falcone. Ben wrote it. Uh, it's Leslie Bib
Speaker 1: and Kevin Dunn and myself. And it's basically God has
Speaker 1: chosen this really simple guy who works in a tech
Speaker 1: company who's played by Ben Falcone, to save the world
Speaker 1: nothing more than nothing. He would be my first choice
Speaker 1: to I mean yeah, and he doesn't understand why he's chosen.
Speaker 1: He's like me, why what am I? Suppo? And so um,
Speaker 1: God sends an angel and arn't angel Chapuel who is
Speaker 1: me to kind of guide him into the mission saving
Speaker 1: the world. That's basically the very silly premise. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of fun, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: movie or is it a series? Now? It's just theories.
Speaker 1: Eight episodes shooting two seasons back. Yeah, sixteen episodes total,
Speaker 1: O fense. Good for you. That's a fantastic gig. So
Speaker 1: you're gonna do them all down there. Yes, we're here
Speaker 1: until August. We've been here since February. Unbelievable. That's an
Speaker 1: eight month job. A month job, and by the way,
Speaker 1: in a country that has handled the pandemic amazingly. There's
Speaker 1: no COVID around. We don't wear mask here, we don't
Speaker 1: do distant ciation, we don't do it like there's no Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean that really is God's sent. Yeah. No.
Speaker 1: I I went down the beach today and uh and
Speaker 1: didn't wear a mask and I was almost arrested. I
Speaker 1: got some journey looks from the place, and I just
Speaker 1: have a nice day. Yeah, you're in a different country
Speaker 1: in different situations. I forgot you know. I go down
Speaker 1: there and ride the bike and you know, run a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I just I forgot it today. Boy,
Speaker 1: that that raised some hackles. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Um uh, you know what, how many times did you
Speaker 1: and I have scenes together? Not that many. I do
Speaker 1: remember that time where you came to the front desk
Speaker 1: and you wanted to see lower La and I was
Speaker 1: giving you grief, right, Yes, yes, I remember that scene
Speaker 1: and another scene where I wanted you to fix something
Speaker 1: in the end, or maybe it's the same episode. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but yeah, we were in the we did
Speaker 1: we There were lines back and forth, but not many,
Speaker 1: not many, very few, very few. Like with Ed Herman,
Speaker 1: I think I had one scene in the whole thing.
Speaker 1: This isn't amazing. The two most talented guys in in
Speaker 1: the history of Hollywood and they don't match us together.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's isn't it bizarre? Is it weird? Going with? So?
Speaker 1: I actually maybe he could have sent me to your
Speaker 1: dinner a couple of times. I don't know, right, you pats, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I wasn't the guy to sort of like
Speaker 1: leave notes for her with it with ideas, right, No,
Speaker 1: because I saw what happened to people that did, and
Speaker 1: they were you know, it was like the floor went
Speaker 1: out from under them and they fell into the shark.
Speaker 1: I think people have tried to do that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had we had a we had an extra coming. He
Speaker 1: had one line and he started doing a soliloquy in rehearsal,
Speaker 1: and we're like, guy, uh, let's let's just wind it
Speaker 1: down now and have a little chat. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: work here. I know, I know, you think this is
Speaker 1: your moment. You're gonna take advantage of good for you.
Speaker 1: Don't lose that mentality. But not here. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: not the show for that. No, no, no, no, And
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, And this is not from
Speaker 1: an egotistical point of view. I have to ask this
Speaker 1: question instead of curiosity. How did you feel about the
Speaker 1: character of Luke? How did I feel? I mean, you
Speaker 1: mean me to camp Michelle? How did you feel about you?
Speaker 1: I think let's go with you and Michelle. How did
Speaker 1: you feel about Well, Michelle didn't Michelle didn't care about you.
Speaker 1: Clearly you're like you were. You couldn't have been more
Speaker 1: remote from anything he liked or cared about, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, unique thought that it was a great
Speaker 1: character that you developed and made made him very daring
Speaker 1: and um you just you know, he was just a
Speaker 1: good guy. You you just imperson impersonated this this good
Speaker 1: many heart. But yeah, that's how I perceived that character.
Speaker 1: It's just like the guy that works at this place
Speaker 1: and you go and his good heart. He comes from
Speaker 1: a good place and means well does his bad you know,
Speaker 1: that's what he can do. Guy that is never going
Speaker 1: to leave that town. Right, it's never gonna. It's not
Speaker 1: even in the like he doesn't forget and he sees
Speaker 1: her and it's like, now you know any thoughts of
Speaker 1: le and you're like, no, no, no, I'm staying. I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fight it, I'm gonna,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be worth always.
Speaker 1: By the way, I've always said that in my next life,
Speaker 1: I would like to be reincorinated in someone like that,
Speaker 1: who doesn't have really ambition, is very easily satisfying, who
Speaker 1: likes what they have going on. That's it like a
Speaker 1: simple life, right, I feel like it must be very peaceful.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't see it in the cards
Speaker 1: for you. I think you're gonna come back some kind
Speaker 1: of a king. I really do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have it. You're gonna have it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have it. I think that's done. That was no no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're screwed up. You were assassinated a few times. Now
Speaker 1: when you're coming back, you're gonna do it right. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do it right this time, and you will be
Speaker 1: you will be revered. Okay, alright, uh all right, here's
Speaker 1: here's and bliss it. I'm not gonna take this personally
Speaker 1: because I think I already know the answer. Who is
Speaker 1: your favorite character to work with? To work but well,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's easy to pick because they are the
Speaker 1: only two that I worked with. Because it's Melissa Laurence.
Speaker 1: All of my scenes were with her. I did have
Speaker 1: scenes with Kelly Bishop from time to time, and I
Speaker 1: had a lot of fun things. She's still a friend
Speaker 1: to this day. How's she doing. She's doing She's doing Okay,
Speaker 1: she lost her husband and that it's it's been challenging
Speaker 1: because she lost her husband and then the pandemic. A
Speaker 1: lot of loneliness. Um, but she she's she's doing better.
Speaker 1: She's good, good, good, good good good. Um. So we
Speaker 1: hear that one of your guilty pleasures is The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it this season? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: When did I say that, I mean I think I
Speaker 1: watched it one season years ago. I want to say
Speaker 1: it like a decade ago, Like I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: it happened, and I just got hooked on the characters
Speaker 1: that were there and the people and then you get
Speaker 1: invested somehow. It's a really weird By the way, the
Speaker 1: same happened here when I did my quarantine in Australian Sydney,
Speaker 1: because you stuck in the hotel room and I watched TV, like,
Speaker 1: and there's a show here called Married at First Sight.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it exists in America, which is
Speaker 1: the weirdest concept on earth. You marry someone you've never met,
Speaker 1: and then and then you date and then literally the
Speaker 1: characters or those people are just questionable at best. And
Speaker 1: I just got invested and and I had to watch
Speaker 1: the last episode was Sunday, and I set my timer
Speaker 1: on my phone and it was it was. It was
Speaker 1: that bad. Huh yeah, use the timer. Nature and pettiness
Speaker 1: and it is it truly? Is it truly? Is um?
Speaker 1: You know we have you know you're with You're with
Speaker 1: the Uh, we're gonna do some conventions together once it
Speaker 1: once it opens back up. You know, we're the same agent.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh that's true, and I know, well,
Speaker 1: no nobody has. But I did a couple with Sean. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had in the past, two I had, I did.
Speaker 1: I did one in Houston with Milo and we did.
Speaker 1: We did a panel together and we did it was
Speaker 1: just there. So it's you're gonna love this because you
Speaker 1: haven't done them before. Have you done them before? You
Speaker 1: you have a couple. I've done a couple, but I
Speaker 1: haven't done them much. You know. You get to meet
Speaker 1: the fans. It's it's so much but every day on
Speaker 1: the streets, you know what I mean. So, but this
Speaker 1: is different. They're really like, they're really coming to and
Speaker 1: there and you can spend time with them, true, can
Speaker 1: you really? You know, you can spend a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes with them just talking to them, getting to know them,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's fantastic. So it'll be fun to
Speaker 1: do that. So, okay, you're ready for rapid fire. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna fire some questions at you. Okay, sure you're ready? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right? How do you like? How do you take
Speaker 1: your coffee? Very rarely quick coffee? Really, I'm drinking mainly
Speaker 1: green tea. Can you smell snow? Can you smell snow? Nope? Okay?
Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Jess or Dean? Who's the daddy?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Who's the daddy? Who's who's the Oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's a logan best best I don't know the
Speaker 1: best memory of Gilmore Girls. Best memory of Gilmore Girls. Uh,
Speaker 1: Sally strutters and uh saying not finding not having a
Speaker 1: chair to sit on outside and it's like forty five
Speaker 1: degrees and saying, uh, don't they know who we were?
Speaker 1: You know she's gonna be on next week? Um. Favorite
Speaker 1: Friday night dinner meal. Oh boy, I'm too old to
Speaker 1: remember that, say Burger and fries. Uh show you're binge
Speaker 1: watching right now? I just finished. It's a sin Uh
Speaker 1: British show created by the guy who created Careers Folk
Speaker 1: cried like a baby. It's about the age crisis in
Speaker 1: London in the eighties. It's fantastic. Okay, Uh, this is
Speaker 1: obvious cast member. You texted most recently Melissa, There you
Speaker 1: go both, there you go about my chocolate cake that
Speaker 1: I brought them on Saturday and wanted to know if
Speaker 1: there was any any left. These are the important issues
Speaker 1: that people don't know about behind the scenes. See, we've
Speaker 1: we've we've lifted the cart a little bit, and these
Speaker 1: are the issues. These are the this is the glue
Speaker 1: that holds these relationships together. Um. I appreciate the time
Speaker 1: that you gave waking up earlier to talk to us,
Speaker 1: and it's always great talking to you. It's great seen you.
Speaker 1: Please come back, please come back. We'll be calling on
Speaker 1: you again. Okay, So if you can wake up again,
Speaker 1: we would love to have you back on because this
Speaker 1: was really fun. Um, get my best best to Melissa
Speaker 1: and Ben. Have a great shoot, um and all the
Speaker 1: best my friends. Stay healthy, stay safe. Okay, alright, buddy, Okay,
Speaker 1: you good seeing pal? Alright, bye bye? Alright. Jannie Truesdale,
Speaker 1: what a what a guy, what a talent, what a guest. Uh,
Speaker 1: He'll be back hopefully many many times during this podcast.
Speaker 1: But we have another super guest, Grammy winning singer songwriter extraordinaire,
Speaker 1: Macy Gray. She'll come on later in the show, Macy Gray.
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. Yeah, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all
Speaker 1: in podcast. We're back. Wasn't he great? Don't you just
Speaker 1: love Yannie Truesdale? I mean, my god, what a fun guy. Um.
Speaker 1: I could talk to him all day. He's going to
Speaker 1: come back and talk to us some more. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now we're gonna bring in Amy, our are intrepid producer
Speaker 1: of the podcast, and she's gonna fire off some questions
Speaker 1: and try to stump me. Good luck, and we are
Speaker 1: all watching Gilmore Girls again except for you, who's watching it. Well, right,
Speaker 1: I'm going to experience because I've never seen it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to experience it for the first time.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Well? Yeah, here's here's the here's the cliche.
Speaker 1: When you make the sausage, you don't want to eat it. So, um,
Speaker 1: I'll work on that. That'll maybe not not no pun intended.
Speaker 1: I'll trying to make that line a little more appetizing.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I know. I didn't go home and
Speaker 1: watch it. I've only ever seen Winter because I was
Speaker 1: at the Netflix premier I attended and I was forced
Speaker 1: to watch it, and I liked it. I was very
Speaker 1: impressed by it. And then I saw the pilot back
Speaker 1: in two thousand when it aired. So you have not
Speaker 1: seen the pilot until today from twenty years ago? Correct?
Speaker 1: What did you think? I watched it upstairs? I'm we're
Speaker 1: in her my wife's parents condos because I bought a
Speaker 1: new house and we're not ready to go in the
Speaker 1: house yet. They're still doing some work and I had
Speaker 1: to be upstairs. There's many levels to this place, but
Speaker 1: I had to watch it up and up in the
Speaker 1: den upstairs and my my son, my wife is helping
Speaker 1: my son with the virtual schooling and going through that,
Speaker 1: and I was up there cracking up because I forgot
Speaker 1: how funny, and you know, Drella came on and said,
Speaker 1: get the heck out of my way, and it was
Speaker 1: just it was just wonderful to watch it. Um and
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife kept shouting up, will you be quiet,
Speaker 1: We're trying to learn here, and I said, so my
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, after twenty one years, it was it
Speaker 1: was eye opening. It really was wonderful show. I have
Speaker 1: to say, it's a really good show. It holds up,
Speaker 1: like I've watched it a lot, a lot of times.
Speaker 1: I mean I probably watched every episode maybe three or
Speaker 1: four times, five times, and I laughed, and it holds up.
Speaker 1: It's it's really as good today as it was twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. It's really just beautifully woven in with the
Speaker 1: comedy and the drama and how I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: wonderfully acted. I mean, every single person that appears on
Speaker 1: the screen is just delivering, and it's wonderful to watch.
Speaker 1: Lauren's great god Boy she skilled, and and you know,
Speaker 1: and Jared PEDALICKI had some some great moments, and I
Speaker 1: got He was eighteen at that time. He was eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, and he knew what he was doing as
Speaker 1: an actor because those scenes are really great. Will you
Speaker 1: take us back? How did you get the job? Oh? Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well it was third audition, second audition of the day.
Speaker 1: I had three auditions that day. It was over on
Speaker 1: the West side of l A And I lived, uh
Speaker 1: on the Hall of West Hollywood side. So it was
Speaker 1: the second audition. I I came in. It was a
Speaker 1: room full of guys. I prepared one scene. I'd read
Speaker 1: the script. You know, I took it seriously. I was
Speaker 1: a professional auditioner and I was doing very well and getting,
Speaker 1: you know, to be the bridesmaid. And I knew would
Speaker 1: never never get the job. But they say, we love him,
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna work out. So um, So I
Speaker 1: went in with this kind of like the dumb courage
Speaker 1: of the truly burnt out actor, where I just didn't
Speaker 1: care anymore because I was so busy. I was actually
Speaker 1: teaching acting. I had a ton of students, I had
Speaker 1: a ton of classes to teach. I had to get
Speaker 1: through these auditions and get to the theater and teach
Speaker 1: my class. Um. So I just was in a rush.
Speaker 1: So I did the scene. I liked the people in
Speaker 1: the room. I met Amy, I met Gab and I
Speaker 1: met Leslie Lincoln Gladder. I grade five. Will you tell everybody?
Speaker 1: Who are so? For anyone who doesn't know, who are
Speaker 1: those people you just named? Well? Amy? Amy Sherman Palladino
Speaker 1: was the creator of the show The series with her
Speaker 1: husband Dan Paladino. So, so Amy was in the room.
Speaker 1: I don't think Dan was there. I made you mistaken.
Speaker 1: They they may correct me, which they want to do. Um.
Speaker 1: But and the director was there, Leslie Lincoln Gladder, who
Speaker 1: was a much awarded television director and film director. Gavin Polone,
Speaker 1: executive producer, was there as well. Uh casting, I forget
Speaker 1: who was casting? Um but I just you know, I
Speaker 1: just came in for a, um a guest star role.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a series regular job. So it was just like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't to be. It was just like, go in,
Speaker 1: do the gig. Maybe you'll get it. You'll do a
Speaker 1: one Luke where you going in? WHOA? So at that time,
Speaker 1: Luke was just sort of like a bit player. Well
Speaker 1: At book ended the script. Luke Steiner book ended the script.
Speaker 1: It was we we begin to pilot there, we end
Speaker 1: the pilot there, and then there's like a little middle
Speaker 1: thing I think. But their lead in the show, it
Speaker 1: became that whoa okay, But that took you know, that
Speaker 1: took a couple of years, you know, as the fans
Speaker 1: responded to that relationship, the potential of that relationship, which
Speaker 1: was you know, on the screen, it was incendiary. It
Speaker 1: really no way we're jumping around here. So when you
Speaker 1: booked this part, it was not to be like where
Speaker 1: it was Lauren Alexis you. I think they had it.
Speaker 1: You know, they were doing a chemistry check and I
Speaker 1: think had it not worked out chemistry wise with Lauren,
Speaker 1: they would have probably recast or you know, they do
Speaker 1: that a lot with Pin. But I found out I
Speaker 1: read a book that that Jared was not the original Dean.
Speaker 1: Oh really. But anyway, so so I go in the
Speaker 1: room and I do the audition, and you know, I
Speaker 1: was nailing stuff all the time. Wasn't hard for me
Speaker 1: to to audition. Well, I mean these are you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of know what I'm doing and I walked
Speaker 1: in and I did my job, and I like the people,
Speaker 1: but I didn't like him too much because you can't
Speaker 1: like him too much, right, and you gotta flip the
Speaker 1: psychology somehow. And then uh, and then I left and
Speaker 1: they go, well, were you going? You got another scene
Speaker 1: to do? I said, no, I don't you sent one scene?
Speaker 1: They said no, we sent two. And they showed me
Speaker 1: the sides, and I looked on my sides and I said,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, who's Duke? Said there's another character here.
Speaker 1: There's a Luca and a Duke. You want me to
Speaker 1: do the duke scene too? Oh, that's a that's a misprint. Sorry,
Speaker 1: sorrys like, can you go out and learn the scene?
Speaker 1: Come back into it? Sure, five minutes later, come back in,
Speaker 1: do the scene. Can I go now? Please? I have
Speaker 1: to go meet Carmen electra Um. She's playing a fembot.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be her boss. Charlie's Angels type movie,
Speaker 1: I think it was. And I was going to be
Speaker 1: like the what they call him boss? Was it boss?
Speaker 1: Hey Bob? He was the guy your no, the love interest,
Speaker 1: the love interest of the fembot. So and the script
Speaker 1: is actually pretty good, so I was kind of excited
Speaker 1: to go go to that one, and that was on
Speaker 1: the West Side. So that's what I did, and I
Speaker 1: left and no idea like this is going to change
Speaker 1: my life, no idea. I never thought I had a
Speaker 1: chance because it was the script was so good, um,
Speaker 1: and movie actors and actresses were starting to move into
Speaker 1: TV in a big way at that point. Um, And
Speaker 1: that's when the trend was really sort of picking up
Speaker 1: momentum in two thousand um. And I thought, this is
Speaker 1: too good. They're going to get movie people, and it's
Speaker 1: we don't have a chance. We don't have a chance.
Speaker 1: And uh, by the time I got home, it was
Speaker 1: about five o'clock, there was a message on my answering machine.
Speaker 1: Remember answering machines that you push your button and you
Speaker 1: hear the message. And my manager said, you got the job,
Speaker 1: you got the gig. You're gonna you know, you're gonna Toronto.
Speaker 1: And ten days or so or two weeks and through
Speaker 1: the I did read that that they shot the pilot
Speaker 1: in Canada, but you two, you were going to do
Speaker 1: the series if it went to series in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It was a vote. It was kind of a vote,
Speaker 1: you know. They took a poll with the cast, and
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really wanted to relocate to Toronto,
Speaker 1: even though it's a beautiful place. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: really spectacul a place, but people, you know, had families
Speaker 1: there and they just didn't want to uproot anything. And
Speaker 1: you know, so Warner Brothers built an entire the entire
Speaker 1: back lot of Warner Brothers. They just build it up
Speaker 1: to look like that Unionville and that beautiful place, and
Speaker 1: anyone people listening, it's pretty. It's really pretty. It's really pretty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when did you find out from the pilot? Okay,
Speaker 1: so tell us you go and do the you shoot
Speaker 1: this pilot up in Canada. Meet more. The first time,
Speaker 1: uh so flew in, they lost my bags. Went to
Speaker 1: the hotel in a tracksuit and they said they sympathize
Speaker 1: with me. Check in and they said, some of your
Speaker 1: cast is waiting for you across the street and it's
Speaker 1: just kind of five star restaurant, French restaurant across street.
Speaker 1: And I said, I can't go there in a track
Speaker 1: suit and they said, shrew again, you're a big time person.
Speaker 1: Now you're filming a show. Nobody cares. So I went
Speaker 1: over and uh they were very kind. The maitre d
Speaker 1: was we were expecting you, and Lauren is here. And
Speaker 1: I met Lauren for the first time, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, wow, Wow, this is this fantastic She's she's
Speaker 1: a bit overwhelming when you meet her because there's a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of beauty, a lot of flying. Yeah, she's tall,
Speaker 1: so it's a striking figure. Um. And she was just
Speaker 1: so kind and warm and welcoming and we had a drink.
Speaker 1: Did someone tell you to wear a hat backwards or
Speaker 1: was that you? I walked in that way. I walked
Speaker 1: into the audition that way because that's how I dressed.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a flowing locks and a real
Speaker 1: thick mane of hair. I like to cover it up,
Speaker 1: um sometimes, so you kind of Did you wear those
Speaker 1: plaid shirts too? It's l a. I was weren't tech.
Speaker 1: They were like, hey, put this flannel on, keep that
Speaker 1: hat backwards, and this is what you're going to yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was. I was. I was happy about it
Speaker 1: because you know, now I don't have to go through
Speaker 1: the hair process and the makeup trailer at five am.
Speaker 1: It's like, just throw it, throw a little powder on
Speaker 1: my face if you want to throw a hat on.
Speaker 1: I'll be on set in five minutes. Is Lukey you
Speaker 1: are you Luke? Like? Do you have similarities? Are not? Really? Yeah? Some? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't suffer fools, and you know, I can get
Speaker 1: a little impatience sometimes, but he's very you know the
Speaker 1: thing about that character, he was so tight. And look
Speaker 1: me in the script, You're seeing all these happy, fluffy,
Speaker 1: wonderful colors coming out of all these characters. And I thought,
Speaker 1: this thing is going to float away like a helium
Speaker 1: balloon if there isn't an anchor here. And I know
Speaker 1: that was part of Lauren's job as well, and Kelly
Speaker 1: had that job as well as did Ed. But I thought,
Speaker 1: in a love interest, in a town sense, it's got
Speaker 1: to be that guy. He's got to be that guy.
Speaker 1: He's got to anchor that show, or do at least
Speaker 1: do his part to anchor that show, and not given
Speaker 1: to this rhythm and this sort of you know this,
Speaker 1: this kind of elevated happiness and all of the stuff,
Speaker 1: right right, And so I just that's the choice I
Speaker 1: made going into the audition, and hey, it could have failed.
Speaker 1: I could have fallen on my face with it. And
Speaker 1: they go, why is this guy being so grumpy, you know,
Speaker 1: what's what's with the attitude? But I thought that's the
Speaker 1: only way that that relationship is possibly going to be
Speaker 1: interesting or work. I think they kind of described him
Speaker 1: as cranky with a heart or cranky but cares just
Speaker 1: don't show it. I mean show it in in actions,
Speaker 1: but not in you know, sappy kind of smiles and like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. The thing about the pilot is you like
Speaker 1: these people right away. You like every single one of
Speaker 1: them immediately. They're real, They're real people. You don't see
Speaker 1: television shows with so many varied personalities that are real,
Speaker 1: that are believable. You don't see that. And there's a
Speaker 1: ton of them, but that's a thirty of them in
Speaker 1: that town. I mean, there's there's so many characters and
Speaker 1: there ainting characters, and you meet you meet a good
Speaker 1: chunk of them in the pilot, and you kind of
Speaker 1: know them right away. Like I think that was the
Speaker 1: magic too, you sort of figure out who's who. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's my question. Do they tell you? And we
Speaker 1: see this more in episode two, so we'll talk more
Speaker 1: about this next week, but does someone tell you you
Speaker 1: guys kind of like each other or there's like a
Speaker 1: small hint of flirt or there's like a little crush,
Speaker 1: like do you know that they don't tell you too much,
Speaker 1: but they give you a little you know, they give
Speaker 1: you a little nuggets. You know. Amy gave me a
Speaker 1: couple of nuggets. And it was like, yeah, I know
Speaker 1: how to play this. I'm not I'm not gonna show.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna show very much at all until the
Speaker 1: very last you see, like, yeah, a glimmering episode one,
Speaker 1: and next week we'll talk about it more because in
Speaker 1: episode two you see it. It's almost like foreshadowing. But
Speaker 1: I digress. Okay, So my other how often do people
Speaker 1: call you luke when you're like walking down the street? Uh?
Speaker 1: Season two going to work. I was on Kuwang at
Speaker 1: the Koanga Pass going to Barham. There was a cab driver,
Speaker 1: a big guy, UH car accident and he was Nobody
Speaker 1: was stopping to help him. So I pulled over to
Speaker 1: stop him. And that's pretty dangerous that early in the morning,
Speaker 1: a lot of traffic and it was still kind of
Speaker 1: dark out, and I just I mean, he was too
Speaker 1: eighty and he was unconscious and kind of common too.
Speaker 1: And I got him out of his car and I
Speaker 1: was helping him to the side of the road and
Speaker 1: somebody drove by, I don't know, fifty miles and they
Speaker 1: got a boy. Luke. Now that was like the first time.
Speaker 1: That was the first time, the first time, but it
Speaker 1: was the first. It was the oddest time. Doesn't have
Speaker 1: to happen, does it happen? Now? Yeah? Everywhere I go,
Speaker 1: uh Like, people don't even say Scott, they say Luke.
Speaker 1: If they say anything, they'll just say, you know, like
Speaker 1: I like to go down to the beach and ride
Speaker 1: a bike, so I'll unt a bike and they'll, you know,
Speaker 1: the people that work there will you know, they'll rent
Speaker 1: me the bike and then when I bring it back,
Speaker 1: they go by the way. We really love the show,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's always a nice little aside, right
Speaker 1: they say, get off your cell phone. They don't you know,
Speaker 1: that's actually you know they actually that actually has happened
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Obviously, I mean I would be
Speaker 1: stealing Gilmore lines that you like constantly. There was a
Speaker 1: guy to Jim that yelled at me to get off
Speaker 1: my cell phone, and I know I know why he
Speaker 1: did it. Had a smile, he had a smile on
Speaker 1: his face and I'm like, why is this guy yelling?
Speaker 1: And why is he smiling? And why is he bothering me?
Speaker 1: Before we got a break? Well, someone tell us who
Speaker 1: were we right? Who was the original Dean? That was
Speaker 1: Nathan Weatherington. I mean it's common knowledge. Come out, guy,
Speaker 1: come on, um listen, We're gonna go to a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Yeah. You know the Gilmore actors
Speaker 1: that played uh laurelized parents, Richard and Emily Gilmore or
Speaker 1: some of the most recognizable actors. And Richard, of course
Speaker 1: was played by Ed Herman, beautifully played by Ed Herman,
Speaker 1: and and the same with Kelly Bishop who played Emily Gilmore.
Speaker 1: I was so aware of it, and I remember filming
Speaker 1: that first scene with him on the golf course. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm working with a legend today. And Kelly
Speaker 1: is the mom and Dirty Dancing, Like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Nobody puts baby in the corner like she's like, she
Speaker 1: doesn't remember this. She goes she gets that from me,
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's like she's from Dirty Dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were definitely the senior members of the staff on
Speaker 1: that show. And he was like yeah, like he played
Speaker 1: FDR and like a couple of things. There's he was
Speaker 1: sort of like a run and I think he was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had just had this great body of work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but nobody puts a baby in a corner,
Speaker 1: but Sally. You know Sally. I grew up with Sally
Speaker 1: and watching All in the Family, that iconic show. And
Speaker 1: so Sally Strothers will be on with us next week
Speaker 1: when she has her first appearance in episode two. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she was. That was pretty major that she was in
Speaker 1: there too. You guys, we have to talk about Melissa
Speaker 1: McCarthy in this pilot episode. I'm watching it for the
Speaker 1: first time with you, Scott, and I am so shook
Speaker 1: that she was in the first episode, and I obviously
Speaker 1: went to Google and found out that she's a regular
Speaker 1: throughout the series. I'm like this massive, like Melissa McCarthy
Speaker 1: and go more girls. So cool. Yeah, she she's hysterically
Speaker 1: funny and a very very gifted actress. You know, we
Speaker 1: all she was with um oh god, what's that comedy
Speaker 1: troupe Growlings? A growndling, So she was a member of Grownlings.
Speaker 1: We went to see her one evening. She did four
Speaker 1: or five different characters. She wrote all her material we
Speaker 1: were laughing so hard our sides hurt. She's so good
Speaker 1: at that stuff, um creating characters, and that scene, that
Speaker 1: scene was priceless, where she's just gonna set the whole
Speaker 1: place on fire and hit people with the pans in
Speaker 1: the whole with everybody's helping her. So it just goes
Speaker 1: to show you how good a cook. She was right
Speaker 1: to tolerate that. She stays for the whole run of
Speaker 1: the show. She's there the whole, Oh, the whole. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been the same without her and and they,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was. I always thought it was
Speaker 1: like Suki got cast as a regular because Alex Borstein
Speaker 1: could not get out of her contracted with Fox because
Speaker 1: she was doing that show with Fox. She was doing
Speaker 1: a sketch comedy show with Fox, Mad TV, I think
Speaker 1: she was doing mad TV. So Alex was the harp
Speaker 1: player Drella. But she was supposed to be Suki, right, right,
Speaker 1: she was supposed to be Suki. So they just eliminated
Speaker 1: the Dreller thing, right, or they created either they did that.
Speaker 1: They created the Dreller so she could do the one
Speaker 1: off and go back to Man TV, right, And then
Speaker 1: they cast Suki. So at the time, you know, we
Speaker 1: knew how good Alex was nailing that role, and we
Speaker 1: were like, oh god, how are you going to replace that?
Speaker 1: And then and of course, you know, Melissa McCarthy happens
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's how well. And then Alex
Speaker 1: goes on to win the Emmy for Mazel with Amy
Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino. So it's like she must like her, she
Speaker 1: likes working with who she likes working with them. They're
Speaker 1: very they're very good friends. Yeah, they've they've been known
Speaker 1: each other a long time. And she's so good on
Speaker 1: Mrs Mazel. Oh my god. Yeah. In the pilot, you've
Speaker 1: got two big scenes in the beginning and at the end.
Speaker 1: I have yet well basically, well, I don't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say they're big, but I think they're. There are lines
Speaker 1: that I utter that live in the Gilmore sphere. Uh
Speaker 1: for eternity, Uh read me can kill you enjoy? Which
Speaker 1: is the last thing I say, or maybe not the
Speaker 1: last thing, but that that little blur before that little
Speaker 1: connection with the with the Oxford and no hat on
Speaker 1: and the little glimmer between Laurela and I, um and
Speaker 1: then uh calling her an addict. In the first scene, So,
Speaker 1: and is that the scene where she where Rory says,
Speaker 1: are you my new daddy? To the guy? That is that?
Speaker 1: That is the scene with the guy the guy who
Speaker 1: has He doesn't look like Milo, but he sort of
Speaker 1: sounds like Miley has this sort of same rhythms as Milo.
Speaker 1: I noticed watching Dad Boy. That's that kind of sounds
Speaker 1: and feels like Milo. He's the one that's flirting with
Speaker 1: both of them, right. He hits on Laurela and then
Speaker 1: he hits on Rory, and then Laurela comes up and said,
Speaker 1: that's my daughter. And he goes, well, I have a friend.
Speaker 1: I'm traveling with a friend and creepy guy. Because she's sixteen,
Speaker 1: He goes, we'll be going I think so drive say,
Speaker 1: I'm Riley and I'm reading the pop culture references. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of um in this first episode. So the
Speaker 1: first one was RuPaul when Laura Lie brings out her
Speaker 1: large makeup case and Rory says, God, RuPaul does not
Speaker 1: need this much makeup. And you know, when I was
Speaker 1: teaching acting rule, RuPaul was a student of mine. Yes,
Speaker 1: I did have a private session with rue Paul. A
Speaker 1: friend of mine said would you help RuPaul with a
Speaker 1: film audition? And I said, sure, of course, it's what
Speaker 1: I do and uh, and that's how I got started
Speaker 1: in the whole teaching acting thing is doing privates for friends.
Speaker 1: And they said, you're really good at this. And I
Speaker 1: got a call back and I got the job, and
Speaker 1: you should think about charging for this, and so I
Speaker 1: charged twenty bucks. I didn't want to charge very much, um,
Speaker 1: but then I got so many people because people charge
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty an hour. But it was a wonderful
Speaker 1: session and terrific actor. Terrific actor I was. I was
Speaker 1: really surprised. I don't know what to expect, but you know.
Speaker 1: So this was in Luke Sine actually where Laura Lie says, look,
Speaker 1: Officer Croup Key Brookie, she's right at that table right there,
Speaker 1: West Side story, none of us and they all dancing
Speaker 1: around that went over the twenties, the thirties and the forty.
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm a bit over forty, just a bit, you know,
Speaker 1: just a just a drip over forty. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: I grew up with the West Side Story, so I
Speaker 1: know Officer. Next we have Rory was looking at her
Speaker 1: Chilton skirt and she says, I'm going to be in
Speaker 1: a Britney Spears video. Totally works. Yeah, works for me?
Speaker 1: Does that work for the young ones here? It was
Speaker 1: a really funny line. I laughed out loud. That's when
Speaker 1: my wife said, will you keep it down up there?
Speaker 1: And I said, that's funny, I'm going to be in
Speaker 1: a Britney Spears video. Seem like a show with this
Speaker 1: many references of the time could seem so dated or
Speaker 1: like the things could be so sort of like antiquated,
Speaker 1: if that's the right word. But none of that does
Speaker 1: not happen at all. I feel that these writers were geniuses.
Speaker 1: You know, they hit, they hited out of the park
Speaker 1: on this one. I mean, that's why I didn't think
Speaker 1: I would get it. I thought this is too good,
Speaker 1: too good for me. Um, before we bring in Macy Riley,
Speaker 1: give us the Macy Gray references in the pilot episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the first one. Laurel I says to Rory, well
Speaker 1: you're crabby, and Rory says, I'm sorry I lost my
Speaker 1: Macy Gray CD. I need caffeine. Laurel I says, oh,
Speaker 1: I have your Macy Gracie and pulls the CD out
Speaker 1: of her purse and then the next one, Macy Gray's
Speaker 1: I Try plays right after Laura Lee and Rory's fight
Speaker 1: in Roy's room. Knowledge, amazing knowledge. What a great story
Speaker 1: she has, What a great story. Um. You know she
Speaker 1: she had a very austere mother who was a math
Speaker 1: teacher and you know, drummed this work ethic intour and
Speaker 1: getting great grades. And she didn't think she had a
Speaker 1: great voice at all. She was actually embarrassed us to sing.
Speaker 1: And you know, she's in l a kicking around and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make something happen. And she ends
Speaker 1: up meeting a guy and they did a demo, and
Speaker 1: then she started getting some gigs and then one thing
Speaker 1: led to another. I mean she I think she got
Speaker 1: signed by Atlantic Records, and they dropped her because the
Speaker 1: guy who signed her left, and then she went back home.
Speaker 1: And then she came back to all that a couple
Speaker 1: of years later because because because another age, another um,
Speaker 1: a record guy, agent, whatever, um got in touch with
Speaker 1: her and said, give it another shot, come on back,
Speaker 1: let's do it in the rest of history. And she's
Speaker 1: a she's a good songwriter. She's a good because I
Speaker 1: you know, I write songs too. I write a lot
Speaker 1: of songs. I've written thirty songs this winner, and I've
Speaker 1: recorded three songs and we're gonna, you know, potentially here's
Speaker 1: some of these songs. But um, she's a really good songwriter,
Speaker 1: and she's got a really unique voice. And you know,
Speaker 1: she opens her mouth and you know that that is
Speaker 1: so rare, it's really rare, um where it sounds actually great.
Speaker 1: You want to listen to it. But she's very unique,
Speaker 1: and she just never realized and she had to be
Speaker 1: convinced that. You know, and all singers hate their voices.
Speaker 1: They hate him, Elton John hates his voice, Bono hates
Speaker 1: his voice. Everybody, every producer I've ever talked to has said,
Speaker 1: I've worked with so and so and so and so.
Speaker 1: They hate their voices. So, you know, how do you
Speaker 1: feel about yours? I don't care for Well, well, okay,
Speaker 1: so Macy Gray is coming up in like just a
Speaker 1: few minutes. Okay, Riley, what care? That's why I don't
Speaker 1: watch myself. I'm just gonna make a joke about the sausage.
Speaker 1: But then it just felt weird. It was like how
Speaker 1: the sausage is made. It's like I don't know, I
Speaker 1: I guess twenty years later, Does it get easier to
Speaker 1: watch it now? Yeah? Yeah, now I can because I
Speaker 1: can enjoy it. I have time to sort of sit
Speaker 1: back and really appreciate. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be like flirty, but you look good Like right from
Speaker 1: the start, I'm like, they're cute. Somebody I will out
Speaker 1: in this one of the definitely. Now I'm finding out
Speaker 1: that somebody said I'm crushing on Scott watching this? Oh,
Speaker 1: Becky did it? Yeah? Sure did. I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: young Scott is pretty dark cute. Oh, I don't know
Speaker 1: how it feels a how they just called him young Scott.
Speaker 1: But Riley, what else? Please refer to me as you
Speaker 1: please please when reference very young? But but that's okay,
Speaker 1: open season on that go ahead before Macy Gray gets here, Riley,
Speaker 1: what else was in the episode that was like pop culture?
Speaker 1: So we have uh Rory and Laurela were standing outside
Speaker 1: for their their weekly dinner and she says, do we
Speaker 1: go in or do we just stand here re enacting
Speaker 1: the little match girl? Oh yeah, that didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: get that, and that's I'm drawing. So I looked at
Speaker 1: that because I didn't get it either. I guess It's
Speaker 1: an old story about this little girl who would sell
Speaker 1: matches outside. Um, but she would look through to see
Speaker 1: everybody warm while she was out in the cold. But
Speaker 1: that's the that's why people rewatch the show because there's
Speaker 1: so many references and they look them up and then
Speaker 1: they watch him a different level with knowledge. Yes. So
Speaker 1: the last one I have is Dean sees Rory. She
Speaker 1: dropped everything and he mentions Rosemary's baby? Was this one
Speaker 1: she was talking about cake? Was this one? She's like Ruth,
Speaker 1: Ruth Gordon with the tanner? Are you standing over me?
Speaker 1: Like Ruth Gordon with a tennis rooten Mary's babies? And
Speaker 1: she's like what, he's beautiful and he reads Yeah, at
Speaker 1: least he watches movies. Um. Yeah, it's a good moment
Speaker 1: for Dean. And then he had the movie Dick Line too,
Speaker 1: another literature. Yeah. But I also like Amy loved the cake,
Speaker 1: the multiple mentions of cake because she was so nervous
Speaker 1: talking to round the round they make them really round
Speaker 1: and then ends with the cake. You know, we're also
Speaker 1: missing the nick at Night mentioned, which personally me being
Speaker 1: in my thirties, I loved because that was a huge
Speaker 1: part of my childhood. Is it even around un Actually
Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean I definitely got the reference
Speaker 1: based too, like old timey things right, like a dream
Speaker 1: of Genie or stuff like that. Licensing play Yeah, good
Speaker 1: for them, So, ladies want were your favorite lines from
Speaker 1: the episode. My favorite was when Rory said Chicago Wendy Oprah.
Speaker 1: But it's how she said exact little pause and then
Speaker 1: she kind of swallowed the word. Is really good acting
Speaker 1: and it really made it funny. I'll the next mine
Speaker 1: was Rory comes in, you're happy? Did you do something slutty?
Speaker 1: More likes? I picked the same one. I literally could
Speaker 1: not stop laughing after she said that, Like that is
Speaker 1: so good. The fact that she's saying that to her mom,
Speaker 1: like it's so good. But what about if you're gonna
Speaker 1: throw your life away, Like, for God's sakes, make sure
Speaker 1: he's a motorcycle. I'm saying it wrong though, somebody give
Speaker 1: the exact quote, but what was that happen? We know, right,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna write you're gonna throw your life away,
Speaker 1: at least make sure he is a motorcycle. Sure. My
Speaker 1: favorite line was in the diner to the creepy guy
Speaker 1: hitting on her when he realized he wasn't gonna get anywhere.
Speaker 1: He goes while I have to go, and she goes
Speaker 1: so soon he goes. What you guys just kidding. It's
Speaker 1: like it says everything about that character, like how on
Speaker 1: top of it she is, how detached she is, how
Speaker 1: silly she thought the whole thing was, and how much
Speaker 1: fun that you were going to have with that character.
Speaker 1: Just based on so soon you can really watch it
Speaker 1: two times in a row and here's something you missed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is not a show that you can be
Speaker 1: typing emails or like go into the bathroom in the
Speaker 1: middle of you But that's that's exactly what happens with people.
Speaker 1: They come home, they turn it on, and they make dinner,
Speaker 1: they do their evening, and they just have it on. Overall.
Speaker 1: What do you feel about the pilot now that you've
Speaker 1: seen it. I am shocked that we didn't get nominated
Speaker 1: for Yeah, I'm shocked. It's so good. Well, and I
Speaker 1: just learned no one really watched it, like, um, Lauren
Speaker 1: was just doing an interview and you guys are up
Speaker 1: against friends, So it wasn't like a huge ratings like
Speaker 1: well it was it was the c w at that time,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a w B yet. It was Oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was a w B at the time.
Speaker 1: So it was a smaller you know, a smaller net
Speaker 1: that they were casting out there too. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's like three or four million, and then we I
Speaker 1: think we got up to about six million, maybe a
Speaker 1: little higher than that, but that's that's a fraction of
Speaker 1: what Friends. The big networks were getting on their head
Speaker 1: shows like Friends was pulling in what crazy? So did
Speaker 1: you know that you're always going to come back or
Speaker 1: did you have like order who me? Personally? I guess both. Well.
Speaker 1: After I was done the pilot, you know, it was
Speaker 1: like see you a nice working with you. I had
Speaker 1: to drink with Lauren, drink with Keko. It was like
Speaker 1: nice working good bye bye. Uh. And then they came
Speaker 1: back with an offer of two shows. We turned it
Speaker 1: down because my managers like, no, I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: six year deal out of this, because they know they
Speaker 1: want you. They just don't want to spend the money
Speaker 1: to small network. They don't have the money, so they're
Speaker 1: just gonna try to, you know, kind of bring in
Speaker 1: that's mo. Yeah, And I was like, really, it's like
Speaker 1: two episodes, Let's go. And I had a buddy. I
Speaker 1: had a buddy back in New York and who turned
Speaker 1: down a huge film that turned out to be a
Speaker 1: huge career making film for a major movie star who
Speaker 1: became a huge movie star to work with a very
Speaker 1: prestigious director. And he turned it down because he said,
Speaker 1: they're not paying me enough. And I said, are you crazy?
Speaker 1: I said, take the film that will launch your entire career.
Speaker 1: And and he never had her much of a career
Speaker 1: after they came back and said, but I would go
Speaker 1: on my jobs and I was I'd think about, my god,
Speaker 1: am I going to be that guy? What am I doing?
Speaker 1: I gotta call my manager. I call her a few times, said, look,
Speaker 1: we need to take this. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to be that guy that, you know, watch somebody else
Speaker 1: go on to fame and fortune. But um so we
Speaker 1: said no. And then they came back with four episodes,
Speaker 1: and she goes, and she called me. She goes. They
Speaker 1: came back with four episodes. I got him and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. You're gonna say no? She goes?
Speaker 1: You damn right, I'm saying, I said, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: four episodes please let's do it, and she goes, I
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Let me do this. And to
Speaker 1: her credit and it's really important to have great management.
Speaker 1: She called Gavin Palone and she said, give the guy
Speaker 1: a deal. You know you want him. He was great
Speaker 1: and he's going to be great in the pilot. The
Speaker 1: chemistry is there. Go get him the money. And he did. So.
Speaker 1: She called me said come to lunch. She had an envelope.
Speaker 1: I sat down, opened it. It was a six year deal. Whoa,
Speaker 1: it's a good lunch, good story. Okay, so you kind
Speaker 1: of knew, all right, I'm I'm Luke. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: was shocked. It was a guest star roll. It was
Speaker 1: like a one off thing. I was shocked. And this
Speaker 1: is before the pilot actually aired, This is before everything aired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was shocked. Well played, manager, lady. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: pay for lunch? I don't think. I think I forgot
Speaker 1: my wallet that day. No, she she bought. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: classy person. Great manager. All right, by we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a little break. Now, we're gonna come back with Macy Gray,
Speaker 1: the extraordinary Macy Gray. Yeah, well we're back, everybody with
Speaker 1: the illustrious uh superstar Grammy winning. Uh, very rare talent.
Speaker 1: And it's my privilege to introduce my audience to UM,
Speaker 1: the one and only Macy, Greg Macy, how are you
Speaker 1: doing today? Oh good? You know these zoom things are
Speaker 1: solved me so much fresher. You know, you gotta the
Speaker 1: background together. They're very, very complicated. You know. Let me
Speaker 1: just ask you this. Were you aware, Um, when you
Speaker 1: wrote I Try, Were you aware how good that song
Speaker 1: was in the impact that it was going to have
Speaker 1: on You're on on music lovers and on your on
Speaker 1: your life. No. I actually argued with that. The head
Speaker 1: of the label at the time was Polly Anthony, and
Speaker 1: I had a huge fight with her about releasing that
Speaker 1: song because I wanted to put out another song and
Speaker 1: I didn't think I Try was I thought the chorus
Speaker 1: was too worthy. I thought I had too many words
Speaker 1: in it and people, Yeah, but what a great hook.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just just grabs you. It's just so great,
Speaker 1: what a great song. And and did you know that
Speaker 1: it was gonna appear the song was gonna play on
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls? Absolutely not. You didn't know. You didn't know,
Speaker 1: so so the agent was just sort of licensing the
Speaker 1: song out. Then to so many different sources, and that's
Speaker 1: just one place where it ended up. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they do like that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's great. So tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: your background and and how you uh, you know, came
Speaker 1: to l A and ended up you know, signing a
Speaker 1: record deal. And I read a little bit about your story,
Speaker 1: and my god, it's it's so interesting that you signed
Speaker 1: with what Atlantic and your guy left and they let
Speaker 1: you go when you went back home, came back to
Speaker 1: l A and ran and did what Joe solo and
Speaker 1: and and did the and did those tracks um and
Speaker 1: started started getting a lot of gigs. Well, it was
Speaker 1: I came out here when I was seventeen to l
Speaker 1: A from from from Ohio and I went to U S.
Speaker 1: See that's what brought me out here. And then and
Speaker 1: then I was I was always I had I had
Speaker 1: taken piano lessons since I was seven, so, you know,
Speaker 1: always gravitated towards the musicians for some reason at school.
Speaker 1: And and the long story short, I ended up in
Speaker 1: a jazz band. And then we started playing around town
Speaker 1: like the hotels like the ramad and that was our
Speaker 1: biggest our biggest, big time and then uh, then after school, UM,
Speaker 1: you know, I really got attached to being in the
Speaker 1: studios and I loved being in bands, and and then
Speaker 1: I was in a rock band. That's where Joe Solo
Speaker 1: came and I was in a rock band with him
Speaker 1: and we played UM all the all the strip and
Speaker 1: we were doing the Roxy. One night we had the
Speaker 1: six o'clock slot at the Roxy and um on a Monday,
Speaker 1: I think, and there were eight people there and one
Speaker 1: of them was a guy named Tom Caroline, who had
Speaker 1: stopped in to see the band after us, because nobody
Speaker 1: goes to the Roxylock, so UM, some reason he was
Speaker 1: there earlier. He saw us. He came up to me
Speaker 1: and he asked me if I would showcase for Atlantic.
Speaker 1: He was at Atlantic Records. And then I did a
Speaker 1: showcase and then they signed me, and then UM, I
Speaker 1: did an album with Atlantic, but I got pregnant and
Speaker 1: and then um they dropped me, and then uh, I think,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, so then about too maybe two
Speaker 1: three years went by, and then I got another deal
Speaker 1: at Epic and UM and that that's the UM how
Speaker 1: Life Is had made the album with and are You Still?
Speaker 1: Are You? Still touring and still digging uh here in
Speaker 1: in Europe. Yeah, I'm obsessed with touring. I'm just last
Speaker 1: was so devastating for me because I to go anywhere
Speaker 1: that I didn't even feel like myself, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with myself when I
Speaker 1: wasn't like getting ready for a tour, coming over a tour.
Speaker 1: And so are you ramping up right now? Are you
Speaker 1: rehearsing and getting the band together and the songs together
Speaker 1: to to go back out once Covid sort of subsides
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, we we uh, we just are
Speaker 1: in the middle of finishing up a new album. I've
Speaker 1: actually made. My beneficial were called Macy Gray in the
Speaker 1: California Jet Club. It's the same guys I've been with
Speaker 1: about five six years now maybe, And Macy tell us
Speaker 1: about this foundation that you've been working with that's so
Speaker 1: close to your heart, So my good. We support families
Speaker 1: who lose who have lost loved ones to too um
Speaker 1: police violence, so we UM help with mental health services,
Speaker 1: funeral costs. I think a lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: the after in math. You know, you you hear about
Speaker 1: um those stories in the news and the protests, but
Speaker 1: you know, you don't at the full picture of what
Speaker 1: goes on after, which is which is people, you know,
Speaker 1: moms and dads. It just never stopped crying, never, never heal.
Speaker 1: So our biggest thing is mental health services. Macy great,
Speaker 1: having yawn, great talking to you, um, the great Macy Gray,
Speaker 1: Grammy winning singer you know or your love her? Bye bye, okay, gang,
Speaker 1: that's it for episode one. Wasn't that fun and fantastic?
Speaker 1: It isn't this exciting? Um, I hate that it's over,
Speaker 1: but you know what, Uh, let me thank Macy Gray
Speaker 1: for joining us. Uh. We had a lot of fun
Speaker 1: with her in Yannick Truesdale, The Inimitable, Inevitable Yannick Truesdale.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, He's he's uh kicking the pants if
Speaker 1: there ever was one. Um, so make sure he's tune
Speaker 1: into episode two. That's next one. We got some great
Speaker 1: guests coming up for that, Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do.
Speaker 1: So anyway, guys, do your homework for next episode, episode two,
Speaker 1: Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do. Um, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: recapping Laurelized first day at Chiltern, So go ahead, and
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