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Speaker 1: I Am all In, will kiss you. I Am all

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Speaker 1: In with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio podcast. Hey everybody,

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Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, this is I Am all In Podcast. We're

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Speaker 1: very excited. This is our first episode and we have

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Speaker 1: a big gun coming in to talk to us right away.

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Speaker 1: Right off the bat, we're giving you the big people.

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Speaker 1: It's Yanni Truesday, ladies and gentlemen. That's it, Bunk, You're

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Speaker 1: looking fantastic. Okay. All the plastic surgery, it doesn't I

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Speaker 1: haven't done that yet. I think I'm well, let's talk

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Speaker 1: after all right, because it's like I'm in real neat.

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Speaker 1: How how you are you in Australia. I'm in Australia.

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Speaker 1: It's nine am for me. I woke up early just

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Speaker 1: for you. You know you're there. You're a first guest.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, you're the first guest. You're the first guy

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Speaker 1: I wanted on. I said, what the what's the occasion

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Speaker 1: or what's like? I know very little. I just said

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Speaker 1: yes and here I am. But you're my name. It's

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Speaker 1: a yes. You don't even have the right, so what it?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? This is a podcast for I heart

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Speaker 1: so and we're and and I'm having you know, everybody

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Speaker 1: that wants to come on the show just sort of,

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Speaker 1: you know, banter with me and take a walkdown memory.

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Speaker 1: That's your first podcast ever, ever, I've never done a

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Speaker 1: podcast before. Wow, that's so funny. Where would I you know?

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Speaker 1: I did a I was a guest on a podcast

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Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago. The producer and

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Speaker 1: I hit it off, and then I don't know about

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Speaker 1: nine months ago, I called her and said, what about

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Speaker 1: this idea? And she goes, sure, let's do it. That

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Speaker 1: was as simple as that, And I said, I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing it unless True's Dale is the first guest right out. Yes,

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Speaker 1: well there you go and a recurring guests. And I

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Speaker 1: fought for you and I want there you are? How

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Speaker 1: are you great? We're moving into our new place tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: so we're a little influx for the last couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Is the house is remodeled, and you know, I saw place.

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Speaker 1: Where is that? May? I asked, um, it's a little

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Speaker 1: closer to the beach. Let's just yeah, because I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get your addressed. What's the address?

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Speaker 1: It's got one to three Primrose Lane, any Town, America, USA,

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Speaker 1: one double O Oh so that's exciting. I like the beach.

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Speaker 1: That's That's one part that I enjoyed being here a

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Speaker 1: lot is that the house is right on the beach.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's a light change. Great. Isn't that great?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? For me? The ocean is everything? Like

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Speaker 1: I regroup. Yes, yeah, so there's a ton of questions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a ton of questions. Fans want to know. This

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Speaker 1: is you know, I really I want to do this

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Speaker 1: before the fans. You know, they're they're they're getting hung

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Speaker 1: out to dry a little bit. We should be doing

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Speaker 1: more episodes and we're not. Everybody. You're turning into this

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Speaker 1: international superstar never available. You know, someone's got to do it,

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Speaker 1: you know, unless that took all the room. So I

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Speaker 1: want to know, and the fans want to know. How

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Speaker 1: did you get the part? Tell us how you get

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Speaker 1: the part? What was the process? Yes? Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Well I had moved to l a uh ten months

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't go. It's a day. She's like, now,

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Speaker 1: you read the script initially, what were your initial thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Michelle. I don't think I had the script. I

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Speaker 1: had a few scenes. If you seen a couple of

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Speaker 1: scenes with Kelly Bishop from time to time, and I

421
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Speaker 1: had a lot of fun things. She's still a friend

422
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: to this day. How's she doing. She's doing She's doing Okay,

423
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: she lost her husband and that it's it's been challenging

424
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Speaker 1: because she lost her husband and then the pandemic. A

425
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Speaker 1: lot of loneliness. Um, but she she's she's doing better.

426
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Speaker 1: She's good, good, good, good good good. Um. So we

427
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Speaker 1: hear that one of your guilty pleasures is The Bachelor.

428
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Did you watch it this season? What are your thoughts?

429
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: When did I say that, I mean I think I

430
00:26:54,640 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: watched it one season years ago. I want to say

431
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: it like a decade ago, Like I'm not sure how

432
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: it happened, and I just got hooked on the characters

433
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: that were there and the people and then you get

434
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: invested somehow. It's a really weird By the way, the

435
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: same happened here when I did my quarantine in Australian Sydney,

436
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: because you stuck in the hotel room and I watched TV, like,

437
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: and there's a show here called Married at First Sight.

438
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it exists in America, which is

439
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: the weirdest concept on earth. You marry someone you've never met,

440
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: and then and then you date and then literally the

441
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: characters or those people are just questionable at best. And

442
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: I just got invested and and I had to watch

443
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: the last episode was Sunday, and I set my timer

444
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: on my phone and it was it was. It was

445
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: that bad. Huh yeah, use the timer. Nature and pettiness

446
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: and it is it truly? Is it truly? Is um?

447
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: You know we have you know you're with You're with

448
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: the Uh, we're gonna do some conventions together once it

449
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: once it opens back up. You know, we're the same agent.

450
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh that's true, and I know, well,

451
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: no nobody has. But I did a couple with Sean. Yeah, yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: I had in the past, two I had, I did.

453
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Speaker 1: I did one in Houston with Milo and we did.

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Speaker 1: We did a panel together and we did it was

455
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Speaker 1: just there. So it's you're gonna love this because you

456
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: haven't done them before. Have you done them before? You

457
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: you have a couple. I've done a couple, but I

458
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: haven't done them much. You know. You get to meet

459
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: the fans. It's it's so much but every day on

460
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Speaker 1: the streets, you know what I mean. So, but this

461
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: is different. They're really like, they're really coming to and

462
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: there and you can spend time with them, true, can

463
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Speaker 1: you really? You know, you can spend a couple of

464
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Speaker 1: minutes with them just talking to them, getting to know them,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's it's fantastic. So it'll be fun to

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Speaker 1: do that. So, okay, you're ready for rapid fire. I'm

467
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: gonna fire some questions at you. Okay, sure you're ready? Okay,

468
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: all right? How do you like? How do you take

469
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: your coffee? Very rarely quick coffee? Really, I'm drinking mainly

470
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: green tea. Can you smell snow? Can you smell snow? Nope? Okay?

471
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Speaker 1: Are you team Logan, Jess or Dean? Who's the daddy?

472
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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Who's the daddy? Who's who's the Oh,

473
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Speaker 1: it's it's a logan best best I don't know the

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Speaker 1: best memory of Gilmore Girls. Best memory of Gilmore Girls. Uh,

475
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: Sally strutters and uh saying not finding not having a

476
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Speaker 1: chair to sit on outside and it's like forty five

477
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Speaker 1: degrees and saying, uh, don't they know who we were?

478
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Speaker 1: You know she's gonna be on next week? Um. Favorite

479
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Speaker 1: Friday night dinner meal. Oh boy, I'm too old to

480
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: remember that, say Burger and fries. Uh show you're binge

481
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: watching right now? I just finished. It's a sin Uh

482
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: British show created by the guy who created Careers Folk

483
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: cried like a baby. It's about the age crisis in

484
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: London in the eighties. It's fantastic. Okay, Uh, this is

485
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: obvious cast member. You texted most recently Melissa, There you

486
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Speaker 1: go both, there you go about my chocolate cake that

487
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: I brought them on Saturday and wanted to know if

488
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Speaker 1: there was any any left. These are the important issues

489
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Speaker 1: that people don't know about behind the scenes. See, we've

490
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: we've we've lifted the cart a little bit, and these

491
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: are the issues. These are the this is the glue

492
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: that holds these relationships together. Um. I appreciate the time

493
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: that you gave waking up earlier to talk to us,

494
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: and it's always great talking to you. It's great seen you.

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00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Please come back, please come back. We'll be calling on

496
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: you again. Okay, So if you can wake up again,

497
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: we would love to have you back on because this

498
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: was really fun. Um, get my best best to Melissa

499
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Speaker 1: and Ben. Have a great shoot, um and all the

500
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: best my friends. Stay healthy, stay safe. Okay, alright, buddy, Okay,

501
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: you good seeing pal? Alright, bye bye? Alright. Jannie Truesdale,

502
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: what a what a guy, what a talent, what a guest. Uh,

503
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: He'll be back hopefully many many times during this podcast.

504
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: But we have another super guest, Grammy winning singer songwriter extraordinaire,

505
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Macy Gray. She'll come on later in the show, Macy Gray.

506
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: So stay tuned. Yeah, everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all

507
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: in podcast. We're back. Wasn't he great? Don't you just

508
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: love Yannie Truesdale? I mean, my god, what a fun guy. Um.

509
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I could talk to him all day. He's going to

510
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: come back and talk to us some more. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: now we're gonna bring in Amy, our are intrepid producer

512
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Speaker 1: of the podcast, and she's gonna fire off some questions

513
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: and try to stump me. Good luck, and we are

514
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Speaker 1: all watching Gilmore Girls again except for you, who's watching it. Well, right,

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00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to experience because I've never seen it. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm going to experience it for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Well? Yeah, here's here's the here's the cliche.

518
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: When you make the sausage, you don't want to eat it. So, um,

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Speaker 1: I'll work on that. That'll maybe not not no pun intended.

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00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: I'll trying to make that line a little more appetizing.

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I know. I didn't go home and

522
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Speaker 1: watch it. I've only ever seen Winter because I was

523
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: at the Netflix premier I attended and I was forced

524
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: to watch it, and I liked it. I was very

525
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Speaker 1: impressed by it. And then I saw the pilot back

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Speaker 1: in two thousand when it aired. So you have not

527
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: seen the pilot until today from twenty years ago? Correct?

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Speaker 1: What did you think? I watched it upstairs? I'm we're

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Speaker 1: in her my wife's parents condos because I bought a

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Speaker 1: new house and we're not ready to go in the

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Speaker 1: house yet. They're still doing some work and I had

532
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Speaker 1: to be upstairs. There's many levels to this place, but

533
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Speaker 1: I had to watch it up and up in the

534
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Speaker 1: den upstairs and my my son, my wife is helping

535
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Speaker 1: my son with the virtual schooling and going through that,

536
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and I was up there cracking up because I forgot

537
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Speaker 1: how funny, and you know, Drella came on and said,

538
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Speaker 1: get the heck out of my way, and it was

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Speaker 1: just it was just wonderful to watch it. Um and

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00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife kept shouting up, will you be quiet,

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Speaker 1: We're trying to learn here, and I said, so my

542
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, after twenty one years, it was it

543
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: was eye opening. It really was wonderful show. I have

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Speaker 1: to say, it's a really good show. It holds up,

545
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: like I've watched it a lot, a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: I mean I probably watched every episode maybe three or

547
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: four times, five times, and I laughed, and it holds up.

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00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: It's it's really as good today as it was twenty

549
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: years ago. It's really just beautifully woven in with the

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00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: comedy and the drama and how I mean, it's just

551
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: wonderfully acted. I mean, every single person that appears on

552
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: the screen is just delivering, and it's wonderful to watch.

553
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Lauren's great god Boy she skilled, and and you know,

554
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: and Jared PEDALICKI had some some great moments, and I

555
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: got He was eighteen at that time. He was eighteen

556
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: years old, and he knew what he was doing as

557
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: an actor because those scenes are really great. Will you

558
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Speaker 1: take us back? How did you get the job? Oh? Sure? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well it was third audition, second audition of the day.

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Speaker 1: I had three auditions that day. It was over on

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Speaker 1: the West side of l A And I lived, uh

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Speaker 1: on the Hall of West Hollywood side. So it was

563
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Speaker 1: the second audition. I I came in. It was a

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Speaker 1: room full of guys. I prepared one scene. I'd read

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Speaker 1: the script. You know, I took it seriously. I was

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Speaker 1: a professional auditioner and I was doing very well and getting,

567
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Speaker 1: you know, to be the bridesmaid. And I knew would

568
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Speaker 1: never never get the job. But they say, we love him,

569
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Speaker 1: but it's not gonna work out. So um, So I

570
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Speaker 1: went in with this kind of like the dumb courage

571
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: of the truly burnt out actor, where I just didn't

572
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Speaker 1: care anymore because I was so busy. I was actually

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Speaker 1: teaching acting. I had a ton of students, I had

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Speaker 1: a ton of classes to teach. I had to get

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Speaker 1: through these auditions and get to the theater and teach

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Speaker 1: my class. Um. So I just was in a rush.

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Speaker 1: So I did the scene. I liked the people in

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Speaker 1: the room. I met Amy, I met Gab and I

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Speaker 1: met Leslie Lincoln Gladder. I grade five. Will you tell everybody?

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Speaker 1: Who are so? For anyone who doesn't know, who are

581
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Speaker 1: those people you just named? Well? Amy? Amy Sherman Palladino

582
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Speaker 1: was the creator of the show The series with her

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Speaker 1: husband Dan Paladino. So, so Amy was in the room.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Dan was there. I made you mistaken.

585
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: They they may correct me, which they want to do. Um.

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00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: But and the director was there, Leslie Lincoln Gladder, who

587
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: was a much awarded television director and film director. Gavin Polone,

588
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: executive producer, was there as well. Uh casting, I forget

589
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: who was casting? Um but I just you know, I

590
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: just came in for a, um a guest star role.

591
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: It wasn't a series regular job. So it was just like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't to be. It was just like, go in,

593
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Speaker 1: do the gig. Maybe you'll get it. You'll do a

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Speaker 1: one Luke where you going in? WHOA? So at that time,

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Speaker 1: Luke was just sort of like a bit player. Well

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Speaker 1: At book ended the script. Luke Steiner book ended the script.

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00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: It was we we begin to pilot there, we end

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Speaker 1: the pilot there, and then there's like a little middle

599
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: thing I think. But their lead in the show, it

600
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: became that whoa okay, But that took you know, that

601
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: took a couple of years, you know, as the fans

602
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: responded to that relationship, the potential of that relationship, which

603
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: was you know, on the screen, it was incendiary. It

604
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: really no way we're jumping around here. So when you

605
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: booked this part, it was not to be like where

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00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: it was Lauren Alexis you. I think they had it.

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00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: You know, they were doing a chemistry check and I

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 1: think had it not worked out chemistry wise with Lauren,

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Speaker 1: they would have probably recast or you know, they do

610
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: that a lot with Pin. But I found out I

611
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: read a book that that Jared was not the original Dean.

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00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh really. But anyway, so so I go in the

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Speaker 1: room and I do the audition, and you know, I

614
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: was nailing stuff all the time. Wasn't hard for me

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Speaker 1: to to audition. Well, I mean these are you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of know what I'm doing and I walked

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Speaker 1: in and I did my job, and I like the people,

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Speaker 1: but I didn't like him too much because you can't

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Speaker 1: like him too much, right, and you gotta flip the

620
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: psychology somehow. And then uh, and then I left and

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Speaker 1: they go, well, were you going? You got another scene

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Speaker 1: to do? I said, no, I don't you sent one scene?

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Speaker 1: They said no, we sent two. And they showed me

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Speaker 1: the sides, and I looked on my sides and I said,

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00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: wait a minute, who's Duke? Said there's another character here.

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Speaker 1: There's a Luca and a Duke. You want me to

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00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: do the duke scene too? Oh, that's a that's a misprint. Sorry,

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00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: sorrys like, can you go out and learn the scene?

629
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Come back into it? Sure, five minutes later, come back in,

630
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: do the scene. Can I go now? Please? I have

631
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: to go meet Carmen electra Um. She's playing a fembot.

632
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to be her boss. Charlie's Angels type movie,

633
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: I think it was. And I was going to be

634
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: like the what they call him boss? Was it boss?

635
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Hey Bob? He was the guy your no, the love interest,

636
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: the love interest of the fembot. So and the script

637
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: is actually pretty good, so I was kind of excited

638
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: to go go to that one, and that was on

639
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: the West Side. So that's what I did, and I

640
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: left and no idea like this is going to change

641
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: my life, no idea. I never thought I had a

642
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: chance because it was the script was so good, um,

643
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: and movie actors and actresses were starting to move into

644
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: TV in a big way at that point. Um, And

645
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: that's when the trend was really sort of picking up

646
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: momentum in two thousand um. And I thought, this is

647
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: too good. They're going to get movie people, and it's

648
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: we don't have a chance. We don't have a chance.

649
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: And uh, by the time I got home, it was

650
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: about five o'clock, there was a message on my answering machine.

651
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: Remember answering machines that you push your button and you

652
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: hear the message. And my manager said, you got the job,

653
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: you got the gig. You're gonna you know, you're gonna Toronto.

654
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: And ten days or so or two weeks and through

655
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: the I did read that that they shot the pilot

656
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: in Canada, but you two, you were going to do

657
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: the series if it went to series in Los Angeles.

658
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: It was a vote. It was kind of a vote,

659
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: you know. They took a poll with the cast, and

660
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really wanted to relocate to Toronto,

661
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: even though it's a beautiful place. I mean, it's a

662
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: really spectacul a place, but people, you know, had families

663
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: there and they just didn't want to uproot anything. And

664
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, so Warner Brothers built an entire the entire

665
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: back lot of Warner Brothers. They just build it up

666
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: to look like that Unionville and that beautiful place, and

667
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: anyone people listening, it's pretty. It's really pretty. It's really pretty. Yeah.

668
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: So when did you find out from the pilot? Okay,

669
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: so tell us you go and do the you shoot

670
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 1: this pilot up in Canada. Meet more. The first time,

671
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: uh so flew in, they lost my bags. Went to

672
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: the hotel in a tracksuit and they said they sympathize

673
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: with me. Check in and they said, some of your

674
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: cast is waiting for you across the street and it's

675
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: just kind of five star restaurant, French restaurant across street.

676
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: And I said, I can't go there in a track

677
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: suit and they said, shrew again, you're a big time person.

678
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: Now you're filming a show. Nobody cares. So I went

679
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: over and uh they were very kind. The maitre d

680
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: was we were expecting you, and Lauren is here. And

681
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: I met Lauren for the first time, and I was

682
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: just like, wow, Wow, this is this fantastic She's she's

683
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: a bit overwhelming when you meet her because there's a lot,

684
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: a lot of beauty, a lot of flying. Yeah, she's tall,

685
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: so it's a striking figure. Um. And she was just

686
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: so kind and warm and welcoming and we had a drink.

687
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Did someone tell you to wear a hat backwards or

688
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: was that you? I walked in that way. I walked

689
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: into the audition that way because that's how I dressed.

690
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, I have a flowing locks and a real

691
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: thick mane of hair. I like to cover it up,

692
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: um sometimes, so you kind of Did you wear those

693
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: plaid shirts too? It's l a. I was weren't tech.

694
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: They were like, hey, put this flannel on, keep that

695
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: hat backwards, and this is what you're going to yeah,

696
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: and I was. I was. I was happy about it

697
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: because you know, now I don't have to go through

698
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: the hair process and the makeup trailer at five am.

699
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: It's like, just throw it, throw a little powder on

700
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: my face if you want to throw a hat on.

701
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: I'll be on set in five minutes. Is Lukey you

702
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: are you Luke? Like? Do you have similarities? Are not? Really? Yeah? Some? Yeah,

703
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: I don't suffer fools, and you know, I can get

704
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: a little impatience sometimes, but he's very you know the

705
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: thing about that character, he was so tight. And look

706
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: me in the script, You're seeing all these happy, fluffy,

707
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: wonderful colors coming out of all these characters. And I thought,

708
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: this thing is going to float away like a helium

709
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: balloon if there isn't an anchor here. And I know

710
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: that was part of Lauren's job as well, and Kelly

711
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: had that job as well as did Ed. But I thought,

712
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: in a love interest, in a town sense, it's got

713
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: to be that guy. He's got to be that guy.

714
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: He's got to anchor that show, or do at least

715
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: do his part to anchor that show, and not given

716
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: to this rhythm and this sort of you know this,

717
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: this kind of elevated happiness and all of the stuff,

718
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: right right, And so I just that's the choice I

719
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: made going into the audition, and hey, it could have failed.

720
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: I could have fallen on my face with it. And

721
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: they go, why is this guy being so grumpy, you know,

722
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: what's what's with the attitude? But I thought that's the

723
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: only way that that relationship is possibly going to be

724
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: interesting or work. I think they kind of described him

725
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: as cranky with a heart or cranky but cares just

726
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: don't show it. I mean show it in in actions,

727
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: but not in you know, sappy kind of smiles and like,

728
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: oh yeah. The thing about the pilot is you like

729
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: these people right away. You like every single one of

730
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: them immediately. They're real, They're real people. You don't see

731
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: television shows with so many varied personalities that are real,

732
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: that are believable. You don't see that. And there's a

733
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: ton of them, but that's a thirty of them in

734
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: that town. I mean, there's there's so many characters and

735
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: there ainting characters, and you meet you meet a good

736
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: chunk of them in the pilot, and you kind of

737
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: know them right away. Like I think that was the

738
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: magic too, you sort of figure out who's who. Okay,

739
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: So here's my question. Do they tell you? And we

740
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: see this more in episode two, so we'll talk more

741
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: about this next week, but does someone tell you you

742
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: guys kind of like each other or there's like a

743
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: small hint of flirt or there's like a little crush,

744
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: like do you know that they don't tell you too much,

745
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: but they give you a little you know, they give

746
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: you a little nuggets. You know. Amy gave me a

747
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: couple of nuggets. And it was like, yeah, I know

748
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: how to play this. I'm not I'm not gonna show.

749
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna show very much at all until the

750
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: very last you see, like, yeah, a glimmering episode one,

751
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: and next week we'll talk about it more because in

752
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: episode two you see it. It's almost like foreshadowing. But

753
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: I digress. Okay, So my other how often do people

754
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: call you luke when you're like walking down the street? Uh?

755
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: Season two going to work. I was on Kuwang at

756
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:17,720
Speaker 1: the Koanga Pass going to Barham. There was a cab driver,

757
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: a big guy, UH car accident and he was Nobody

758
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: was stopping to help him. So I pulled over to

759
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: stop him. And that's pretty dangerous that early in the morning,

760
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: a lot of traffic and it was still kind of

761
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: dark out, and I just I mean, he was too

762
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: eighty and he was unconscious and kind of common too.

763
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: And I got him out of his car and I

764
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: was helping him to the side of the road and

765
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: somebody drove by, I don't know, fifty miles and they

766
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: got a boy. Luke. Now that was like the first time.

767
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: That was the first time, the first time, but it

768
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: was the first. It was the oddest time. Doesn't have

769
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: to happen, does it happen? Now? Yeah? Everywhere I go,

770
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: uh Like, people don't even say Scott, they say Luke.

771
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: If they say anything, they'll just say, you know, like

772
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: I like to go down to the beach and ride

773
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: a bike, so I'll unt a bike and they'll, you know,

774
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: the people that work there will you know, they'll rent

775
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: me the bike and then when I bring it back,

776
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: they go by the way. We really love the show,

777
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: and it's like it's always a nice little aside, right

778
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: they say, get off your cell phone. They don't you know,

779
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: that's actually you know they actually that actually has happened

780
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Obviously, I mean I would be

781
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: stealing Gilmore lines that you like constantly. There was a

782
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: guy to Jim that yelled at me to get off

783
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: my cell phone, and I know I know why he

784
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: did it. Had a smile, he had a smile on

785
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: his face and I'm like, why is this guy yelling?

786
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: And why is he smiling? And why is he bothering me?

787
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: Before we got a break? Well, someone tell us who

788
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: were we right? Who was the original Dean? That was

789
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Nathan Weatherington. I mean it's common knowledge. Come out, guy,

790
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: come on, um listen, We're gonna go to a quick break.

791
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Yeah. You know the Gilmore actors

792
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: that played uh laurelized parents, Richard and Emily Gilmore or

793
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: some of the most recognizable actors. And Richard, of course

794
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: was played by Ed Herman, beautifully played by Ed Herman,

795
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and and the same with Kelly Bishop who played Emily Gilmore.

796
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I was so aware of it, and I remember filming

797
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: that first scene with him on the golf course. I

798
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm working with a legend today. And Kelly

799
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: is the mom and Dirty Dancing, Like, are you kidding me?

800
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: Nobody puts baby in the corner like she's like, she

801
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: doesn't remember this. She goes she gets that from me,

802
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, that's like she's from Dirty Dancing. Yeah,

803
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: they were definitely the senior members of the staff on

804
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: that show. And he was like yeah, like he played

805
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: FDR and like a couple of things. There's he was

806
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: sort of like a run and I think he was. Yeah,

807
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: he had just had this great body of work. Yeah,

808
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, but nobody puts a baby in a corner,

809
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: but Sally. You know Sally. I grew up with Sally

810
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: and watching All in the Family, that iconic show. And

811
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: so Sally Strothers will be on with us next week

812
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: when she has her first appearance in episode two. So yeah,

813
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: she was. That was pretty major that she was in

814
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: there too. You guys, we have to talk about Melissa

815
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: McCarthy in this pilot episode. I'm watching it for the

816
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: first time with you, Scott, and I am so shook

817
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: that she was in the first episode, and I obviously

818
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: went to Google and found out that she's a regular

819
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: throughout the series. I'm like this massive, like Melissa McCarthy

820
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: and go more girls. So cool. Yeah, she she's hysterically

821
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: funny and a very very gifted actress. You know, we

822
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: all she was with um oh god, what's that comedy

823
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: troupe Growlings? A growndling, So she was a member of Grownlings.

824
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: We went to see her one evening. She did four

825
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: or five different characters. She wrote all her material we

826
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: were laughing so hard our sides hurt. She's so good

827
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: at that stuff, um creating characters, and that scene, that

828
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: scene was priceless, where she's just gonna set the whole

829
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: place on fire and hit people with the pans in

830
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: the whole with everybody's helping her. So it just goes

831
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 1: to show you how good a cook. She was right

832
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: to tolerate that. She stays for the whole run of

833
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: the show. She's there the whole, Oh, the whole. Yeah. Yeah,

834
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been the same without her and and they,

835
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, and it was. I always thought it was

836
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: like Suki got cast as a regular because Alex Borstein

837
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: could not get out of her contracted with Fox because

838
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: she was doing that show with Fox. She was doing

839
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: a sketch comedy show with Fox, Mad TV, I think

840
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: she was doing mad TV. So Alex was the harp

841
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: player Drella. But she was supposed to be Suki, right, right,

842
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: she was supposed to be Suki. So they just eliminated

843
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: the Dreller thing, right, or they created either they did that.

844
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: They created the Dreller so she could do the one

845
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: off and go back to Man TV, right, And then

846
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: they cast Suki. So at the time, you know, we

847
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: knew how good Alex was nailing that role, and we

848
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: were like, oh god, how are you going to replace that?

849
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: And then and of course, you know, Melissa McCarthy happens

850
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's how well. And then Alex

851
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: goes on to win the Emmy for Mazel with Amy

852
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino. So it's like she must like her, she

853
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: likes working with who she likes working with them. They're

854
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: very they're very good friends. Yeah, they've they've been known

855
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: each other a long time. And she's so good on

856
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: Mrs Mazel. Oh my god. Yeah. In the pilot, you've

857
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: got two big scenes in the beginning and at the end.

858
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I have yet well basically, well, I don't I wouldn't

859
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: say they're big, but I think they're. There are lines

860
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: that I utter that live in the Gilmore sphere. Uh

861
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: for eternity, Uh read me can kill you enjoy? Which

862
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: is the last thing I say, or maybe not the

863
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: last thing, but that that little blur before that little

864
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: connection with the with the Oxford and no hat on

865
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: and the little glimmer between Laurela and I, um and

866
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: then uh calling her an addict. In the first scene, So,

867
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: and is that the scene where she where Rory says,

868
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: are you my new daddy? To the guy? That is that?

869
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: That is the scene with the guy the guy who

870
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: has He doesn't look like Milo, but he sort of

871
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: sounds like Miley has this sort of same rhythms as Milo.

872
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: I noticed watching Dad Boy. That's that kind of sounds

873
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: and feels like Milo. He's the one that's flirting with

874
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: both of them, right. He hits on Laurela and then

875
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: he hits on Rory, and then Laurela comes up and said,

876
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: that's my daughter. And he goes, well, I have a friend.

877
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm traveling with a friend and creepy guy. Because she's sixteen,

878
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: He goes, we'll be going I think so drive say,

879
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm Riley and I'm reading the pop culture references. There's

880
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot of um in this first episode. So the

881
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: first one was RuPaul when Laura Lie brings out her

882
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: large makeup case and Rory says, God, RuPaul does not

883
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: need this much makeup. And you know, when I was

884
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: teaching acting rule, RuPaul was a student of mine. Yes,

885
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: I did have a private session with rue Paul. A

886
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: friend of mine said would you help RuPaul with a

887
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: film audition? And I said, sure, of course, it's what

888
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: I do and uh, and that's how I got started

889
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: in the whole teaching acting thing is doing privates for friends.

890
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: And they said, you're really good at this. And I

891
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: got a call back and I got the job, and

892
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: you should think about charging for this, and so I

893
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: charged twenty bucks. I didn't want to charge very much, um,

894
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 1: but then I got so many people because people charge

895
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty an hour. But it was a wonderful

896
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: session and terrific actor. Terrific actor I was. I was

897
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: really surprised. I don't know what to expect, but you know.

898
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: So this was in Luke Sine actually where Laura Lie says, look,

899
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: Officer Croup Key Brookie, she's right at that table right there,

900
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: West Side story, none of us and they all dancing

901
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: around that went over the twenties, the thirties and the forty.

902
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm a bit over forty, just a bit, you know,

903
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: just a just a drip over forty. So yeah, well

904
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: I grew up with the West Side Story, so I

905
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: know Officer. Next we have Rory was looking at her

906
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Chilton skirt and she says, I'm going to be in

907
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: a Britney Spears video. Totally works. Yeah, works for me?

908
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: Does that work for the young ones here? It was

909
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: a really funny line. I laughed out loud. That's when

910
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: my wife said, will you keep it down up there?

911
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: And I said, that's funny, I'm going to be in

912
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: a Britney Spears video. Seem like a show with this

913
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: many references of the time could seem so dated or

914
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: like the things could be so sort of like antiquated,

915
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: if that's the right word. But none of that does

916
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: not happen at all. I feel that these writers were geniuses.

917
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: You know, they hit, they hited out of the park

918
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: on this one. I mean, that's why I didn't think

919
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: I would get it. I thought this is too good,

920
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: too good for me. Um, before we bring in Macy Riley,

921
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: give us the Macy Gray references in the pilot episode. Yeah,

922
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: so the first one. Laurel I says to Rory, well

923
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: you're crabby, and Rory says, I'm sorry I lost my

924
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: Macy Gray CD. I need caffeine. Laurel I says, oh,

925
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: I have your Macy Gracie and pulls the CD out

926
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: of her purse and then the next one, Macy Gray's

927
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: I Try plays right after Laura Lee and Rory's fight

928
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: in Roy's room. Knowledge, amazing knowledge. What a great story

929
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 1: she has, What a great story. Um. You know she

930
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: she had a very austere mother who was a math

931
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: teacher and you know, drummed this work ethic intour and

932
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: getting great grades. And she didn't think she had a

933
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: great voice at all. She was actually embarrassed us to sing.

934
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 1: And you know, she's in l a kicking around and

935
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make something happen. And she ends

936
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: up meeting a guy and they did a demo, and

937
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: then she started getting some gigs and then one thing

938
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: led to another. I mean she I think she got

939
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: signed by Atlantic Records, and they dropped her because the

940
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: guy who signed her left, and then she went back home.

941
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: And then she came back to all that a couple

942
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: of years later because because because another age, another um,

943
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: a record guy, agent, whatever, um got in touch with

944
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: her and said, give it another shot, come on back,

945
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: let's do it in the rest of history. And she's

946
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: a she's a good songwriter. She's a good because I

947
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, I write songs too. I write a lot

948
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: of songs. I've written thirty songs this winner, and I've

949
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: recorded three songs and we're gonna, you know, potentially here's

950
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: some of these songs. But um, she's a really good songwriter,

951
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: and she's got a really unique voice. And you know,

952
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: she opens her mouth and you know that that is

953
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: so rare, it's really rare, um where it sounds actually great.

954
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: You want to listen to it. But she's very unique,

955
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: and she just never realized and she had to be

956
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: convinced that. You know, and all singers hate their voices.

957
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: They hate him, Elton John hates his voice, Bono hates

958
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: his voice. Everybody, every producer I've ever talked to has said,

959
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: I've worked with so and so and so and so.

960
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: They hate their voices. So, you know, how do you

961
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: feel about yours? I don't care for Well, well, okay,

962
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: so Macy Gray is coming up in like just a

963
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: few minutes. Okay, Riley, what care? That's why I don't

964
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: watch myself. I'm just gonna make a joke about the sausage.

965
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: But then it just felt weird. It was like how

966
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: the sausage is made. It's like I don't know, I

967
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: I guess twenty years later, Does it get easier to

968
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: watch it now? Yeah? Yeah, now I can because I

969
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: can enjoy it. I have time to sort of sit

970
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: back and really appreciate. I mean, I don't want to

971
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: be like flirty, but you look good Like right from

972
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: the start, I'm like, they're cute. Somebody I will out

973
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: in this one of the definitely. Now I'm finding out

974
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: that somebody said I'm crushing on Scott watching this? Oh,

975
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Becky did it? Yeah? Sure did. I was like, wait,

976
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: young Scott is pretty dark cute. Oh, I don't know

977
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: how it feels a how they just called him young Scott.

978
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: But Riley, what else? Please refer to me as you

979
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: please please when reference very young? But but that's okay,

980
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: open season on that go ahead before Macy Gray gets here, Riley,

981
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: what else was in the episode that was like pop culture?

982
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: So we have uh Rory and Laurela were standing outside

983
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: for their their weekly dinner and she says, do we

984
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: go in or do we just stand here re enacting

985
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: the little match girl? Oh yeah, that didn't I didn't

986
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: get that, and that's I'm drawing. So I looked at

987
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: that because I didn't get it either. I guess It's

988
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: an old story about this little girl who would sell

989
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: matches outside. Um, but she would look through to see

990
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody warm while she was out in the cold. But

991
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: that's the that's why people rewatch the show because there's

992
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: so many references and they look them up and then

993
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: they watch him a different level with knowledge. Yes. So

994
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: the last one I have is Dean sees Rory. She

995
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: dropped everything and he mentions Rosemary's baby? Was this one

996
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: she was talking about cake? Was this one? She's like Ruth,

997
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: Ruth Gordon with the tanner? Are you standing over me?

998
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Like Ruth Gordon with a tennis rooten Mary's babies? And

999
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: she's like what, he's beautiful and he reads Yeah, at

1000
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: least he watches movies. Um. Yeah, it's a good moment

1001
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: for Dean. And then he had the movie Dick Line too,

1002
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: another literature. Yeah. But I also like Amy loved the cake,

1003
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: the multiple mentions of cake because she was so nervous

1004
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: talking to round the round they make them really round

1005
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: and then ends with the cake. You know, we're also

1006
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: missing the nick at Night mentioned, which personally me being

1007
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: in my thirties, I loved because that was a huge

1008
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: part of my childhood. Is it even around un Actually

1009
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: don't know, but I mean I definitely got the reference

1010
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 1: based too, like old timey things right, like a dream

1011
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: of Genie or stuff like that. Licensing play Yeah, good

1012
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: for them, So, ladies want were your favorite lines from

1013
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: the episode. My favorite was when Rory said Chicago Wendy Oprah.

1014
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: But it's how she said exact little pause and then

1015
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: she kind of swallowed the word. Is really good acting

1016
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 1: and it really made it funny. I'll the next mine

1017
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: was Rory comes in, you're happy? Did you do something slutty?

1018
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: More likes? I picked the same one. I literally could

1019
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: not stop laughing after she said that, Like that is

1020
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: so good. The fact that she's saying that to her mom,

1021
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: like it's so good. But what about if you're gonna

1022
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: throw your life away, Like, for God's sakes, make sure

1023
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: he's a motorcycle. I'm saying it wrong though, somebody give

1024
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: the exact quote, but what was that happen? We know, right,

1025
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: if you're gonna write you're gonna throw your life away,

1026
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: at least make sure he is a motorcycle. Sure. My

1027
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: favorite line was in the diner to the creepy guy

1028
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: hitting on her when he realized he wasn't gonna get anywhere.

1029
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: He goes while I have to go, and she goes

1030
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: so soon he goes. What you guys just kidding. It's

1031
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: like it says everything about that character, like how on

1032
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: top of it she is, how detached she is, how

1033
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: silly she thought the whole thing was, and how much

1034
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: fun that you were going to have with that character.

1035
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: Just based on so soon you can really watch it

1036
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: two times in a row and here's something you missed. Yeah,

1037
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: like this is not a show that you can be

1038
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: typing emails or like go into the bathroom in the

1039
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: middle of you But that's that's exactly what happens with people.

1040
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: They come home, they turn it on, and they make dinner,

1041
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: they do their evening, and they just have it on. Overall.

1042
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: What do you feel about the pilot now that you've

1043
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: seen it. I am shocked that we didn't get nominated

1044
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: for Yeah, I'm shocked. It's so good. Well, and I

1045
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: just learned no one really watched it, like, um, Lauren

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Speaker 1: was just doing an interview and you guys are up

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01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: against friends, So it wasn't like a huge ratings like

1048
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: well it was it was the c w at that time,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a w B yet. It was Oh no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was a w B at the time.

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01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: So it was a smaller you know, a smaller net

1052
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: that they were casting out there too. And you know,

1053
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: it's like three or four million, and then we I

1054
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: think we got up to about six million, maybe a

1055
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: little higher than that, but that's that's a fraction of

1056
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: what Friends. The big networks were getting on their head

1057
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: shows like Friends was pulling in what crazy? So did

1058
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: you know that you're always going to come back or

1059
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: did you have like order who me? Personally? I guess both. Well.

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01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: After I was done the pilot, you know, it was

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01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: like see you a nice working with you. I had

1062
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: to drink with Lauren, drink with Keko. It was like

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: nice working good bye bye. Uh. And then they came

1064
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: back with an offer of two shows. We turned it

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01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: down because my managers like, no, I'm gonna get a

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: six year deal out of this, because they know they

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: want you. They just don't want to spend the money

1068
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: to small network. They don't have the money, so they're

1069
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: just gonna try to, you know, kind of bring in

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: that's mo. Yeah, And I was like, really, it's like

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Speaker 1: two episodes, Let's go. And I had a buddy. I

1072
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: had a buddy back in New York and who turned

1073
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: down a huge film that turned out to be a

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: huge career making film for a major movie star who

1075
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: became a huge movie star to work with a very

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01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: prestigious director. And he turned it down because he said,

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01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: they're not paying me enough. And I said, are you crazy?

1078
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: I said, take the film that will launch your entire career.

1079
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: And and he never had her much of a career

1080
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 1: after they came back and said, but I would go

1081
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: on my jobs and I was I'd think about, my god,

1082
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: am I going to be that guy? What am I doing?

1083
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: I gotta call my manager. I call her a few times, said, look,

1084
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: we need to take this. I mean, I don't want

1085
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: to be that guy that, you know, watch somebody else

1086
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: go on to fame and fortune. But um so we

1087
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: said no. And then they came back with four episodes,

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01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: and she goes, and she called me. She goes. They

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01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: came back with four episodes. I got him and I'm like,

1090
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. You're gonna say no? She goes?

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01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: You damn right, I'm saying, I said, oh no, no,

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01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: four episodes please let's do it, and she goes, I

1093
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing. Let me do this. And to

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: her credit and it's really important to have great management.

1095
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: She called Gavin Palone and she said, give the guy

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 1: a deal. You know you want him. He was great

1097
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: and he's going to be great in the pilot. The

1098
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: chemistry is there. Go get him the money. And he did. So.

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: She called me said come to lunch. She had an envelope.

1100
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: I sat down, opened it. It was a six year deal. Whoa,

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01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: it's a good lunch, good story. Okay, so you kind

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: of knew, all right, I'm I'm Luke. Yeah. Well, I

1103
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: was shocked. It was a guest star roll. It was

1104
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: like a one off thing. I was shocked. And this

1105
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: is before the pilot actually aired, This is before everything aired. Yeah,

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01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: I was shocked. Well played, manager, lady. Yeah, did you

1107
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: pay for lunch? I don't think. I think I forgot

1108
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: my wallet that day. No, she she bought. Oh yeah,

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01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: classy person. Great manager. All right, by we're gonna take

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01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: a little break. Now, we're gonna come back with Macy Gray,

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01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: the extraordinary Macy Gray. Yeah, well we're back, everybody with

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: the illustrious uh superstar Grammy winning. Uh, very rare talent.

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01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: And it's my privilege to introduce my audience to UM,

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: the one and only Macy, Greg Macy, how are you

1115
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: doing today? Oh good? You know these zoom things are

1116
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: solved me so much fresher. You know, you gotta the

1117
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: background together. They're very, very complicated. You know. Let me

1118
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: just ask you this. Were you aware, Um, when you

1119
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: wrote I Try, Were you aware how good that song

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01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: was in the impact that it was going to have

1121
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: on You're on on music lovers and on your on

1122
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: your life. No. I actually argued with that. The head

1123
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: of the label at the time was Polly Anthony, and

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01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: I had a huge fight with her about releasing that

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: song because I wanted to put out another song and

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01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think I Try was I thought the chorus

1127
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: was too worthy. I thought I had too many words

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01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: in it and people, Yeah, but what a great hook.

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01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it just just grabs you. It's just so great,

1130
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: what a great song. And and did you know that

1131
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: it was gonna appear the song was gonna play on

1132
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls? Absolutely not. You didn't know. You didn't know,

1133
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: so so the agent was just sort of licensing the

1134
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: song out. Then to so many different sources, and that's

1135
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: just one place where it ended up. Yeah, you know,

1136
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: they do like that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's

1137
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: that's that's great. So tell us a little bit about

1138
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: your background and and how you uh, you know, came

1139
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: to l A and ended up you know, signing a

1140
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: record deal. And I read a little bit about your story,

1141
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: and my god, it's it's so interesting that you signed

1142
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: with what Atlantic and your guy left and they let

1143
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: you go when you went back home, came back to

1144
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: l A and ran and did what Joe solo and

1145
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: and and did the and did those tracks um and

1146
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: started started getting a lot of gigs. Well, it was

1147
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: I came out here when I was seventeen to l

1148
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 1: A from from from Ohio and I went to U S.

1149
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: See that's what brought me out here. And then and

1150
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: then I was I was always I had I had

1151
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: taken piano lessons since I was seven, so, you know,

1152
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: always gravitated towards the musicians for some reason at school.

1153
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: And and the long story short, I ended up in

1154
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: a jazz band. And then we started playing around town

1155
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 1: like the hotels like the ramad and that was our

1156
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 1: biggest our biggest, big time and then uh, then after school, UM,

1157
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, I really got attached to being in the

1158
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: studios and I loved being in bands, and and then

1159
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: I was in a rock band. That's where Joe Solo

1160
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: came and I was in a rock band with him

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01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: and we played UM all the all the strip and

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01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: we were doing the Roxy. One night we had the

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01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: six o'clock slot at the Roxy and um on a Monday,

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01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 1: I think, and there were eight people there and one

1165
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: of them was a guy named Tom Caroline, who had

1166
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: stopped in to see the band after us, because nobody

1167
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: goes to the Roxylock, so UM, some reason he was

1168
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: there earlier. He saw us. He came up to me

1169
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: and he asked me if I would showcase for Atlantic.

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01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 1: He was at Atlantic Records. And then I did a

1171
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: showcase and then they signed me, and then UM, I

1172
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: did an album with Atlantic, but I got pregnant and

1173
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 1: and then um they dropped me, and then uh, I think,

1174
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know, so then about too maybe two

1175
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: three years went by, and then I got another deal

1176
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: at Epic and UM and that that's the UM how

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01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: Life Is had made the album with and are You Still?

1178
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: Are You? Still touring and still digging uh here in

1179
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: in Europe. Yeah, I'm obsessed with touring. I'm just last

1180
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: was so devastating for me because I to go anywhere

1181
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: that I didn't even feel like myself, you know, Um,

1182
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with myself when I

1183
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: wasn't like getting ready for a tour, coming over a tour.

1184
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: And so are you ramping up right now? Are you

1185
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: rehearsing and getting the band together and the songs together

1186
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: to to go back out once Covid sort of subsides

1187
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, we we uh, we just are

1188
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,879
Speaker 1: in the middle of finishing up a new album. I've

1189
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: actually made. My beneficial were called Macy Gray in the

1190
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: California Jet Club. It's the same guys I've been with

1191
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 1: about five six years now maybe, And Macy tell us

1192
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: about this foundation that you've been working with that's so

1193
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: close to your heart, So my good. We support families

1194
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: who lose who have lost loved ones to too um

1195
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 1: police violence, so we UM help with mental health services,

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: funeral costs. I think a lot of people don't realize

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: the after in math. You know, you you hear about

1198
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: um those stories in the news and the protests, but

1199
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: you know, you don't at the full picture of what

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: goes on after, which is which is people, you know,

1201
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: moms and dads. It just never stopped crying, never, never heal.

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Speaker 1: So our biggest thing is mental health services. Macy great,

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: having yawn, great talking to you, um, the great Macy Gray,

1204
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 1: Grammy winning singer you know or your love her? Bye bye, okay, gang,

1205
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: that's it for episode one. Wasn't that fun and fantastic?

1206
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: It isn't this exciting? Um, I hate that it's over,

1207
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: but you know what, Uh, let me thank Macy Gray

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: for joining us. Uh. We had a lot of fun

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01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: with her in Yannick Truesdale, The Inimitable, Inevitable Yannick Truesdale.

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01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, He's he's uh kicking the pants if

1211
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 1: there ever was one. Um, so make sure he's tune

1212
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 1: into episode two. That's next one. We got some great

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: guests coming up for that, Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, guys, do your homework for next episode, episode two,

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Speaker 1: Sally Struthers and Rose ab Do. Um, we're gonna be

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 1: recapping Laurelized first day at Chiltern, So go ahead, and

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01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: watch that episode and then tune in the podcast I

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