1 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong. 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he arm Strong and Getty Strong. 4 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: And here's a headline in the New York Times. Inflation 5 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: is basically back to normal. Why do voters still feel blah, wow, 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: that is just profoundly ignorant. I don't understand. I couldn't 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 3: believe that reporters didn't get this at the beginning of 8 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: the conversation. 9 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 10 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: I'm nonplussed about how they can still not get this. 11 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: Let me read the opening paragraph from the New York Times. 12 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: Can person Grocery inflation has been cooling sharply, but Tamarra 13 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: Flamer twenty seven. 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: Says she hasn't noticed. 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: What she knows is that paper plates and meat remained 16 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: more expensive than they were a few years ago. 17 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Yes, you freaking morons. 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: You don't notice a decrease in the increase of prices. 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: It would be impossible. Nobody would do of the rate. 20 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: Yes, nobody would notice a slowing of the rate of inflation. 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: It's impossible to notice. It's just a it's a dumb concept. Yeah, 22 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: oh yeah. 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: It goes on the lingering. Pessimism is something of a puzzle, 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 3: says The New York Times. 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it? Really? Do you know a single 26 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: normal human being? 27 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: You must not, or you would hear people say I 28 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: went to Wendy's last night and it cost sixty bucks 29 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: for me and the kids, or I. 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: Filled up with gas yesterday. I don't know how. 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: People do it. 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: Or let me stop you there, Jim, let me stop 33 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: you there. 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Now Wendy's went from fifty two dollars to sixty dollars 35 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 4: in the course of seventeen months. Now it's only gone 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: from sixty to sixty two. 37 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: Dollars in the course of the last nine months. 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: So as you can see, inflation is cooling a Janner 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: Hamburger right. 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 4: In your face if you tried that to somebody, what 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 4: did band these people? 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Where do they live? Mars? I don't know. 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: And like I said, do you not have a single 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: normal friend? Not one in your circle? Whoever walks in 45 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: and say, you know, at a party and says, man, 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: I stop by the legerastore, I got this bottle of wine. 47 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 3: It used to be eight bucks, now it's fifteen. I 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: can't believe it. That's reality for everyone. But people who 49 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: write economics stuff. 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: It's not. There's more on this. 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: The lingering pessimism is something of a puzzle, which makes 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: you a moron. The job market has been chugging along, 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: overall growth has been healthy, and inflation is back to normal. 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: It's here. How is that a puzzle? 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: Things cost more, way more than they did not very 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: long ago. 57 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: Period, you morons. 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: And let me speak for thousands and thousands of people 59 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: listening right now. 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: The job market is hot. 61 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: Okay, I've still got one job, or I used to 62 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: have one, I still have one, and my money, my 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: wages have not kept up with inflation, not even close. 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 3: So and then I'll shut up about this because it's 65 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: you know, I'm belaboring the. 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Point, but I just it's I actually can't believe it. 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 3: I find it difficult to believe that the journalists who 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: cover the economy are still saying this crap five days. 69 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: Out from a presidential election that Trump. 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: Is set to win, maybe mainly because of the price 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: of stuff, and. 72 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: They don't get it. I don't understand. Inflation's back to normal. God, 73 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: you're so dumb. I don't even know where to start 74 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: with you here. 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: You are belaboring the point, which points to arise in 76 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: the belaboring statistics like that the labor mark. 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: You just can't be stopped today with your word play anyway. 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: You're just a non stop fountain. 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Of wordplay, like an ego Montoya over here of my words. 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know what you call the subheadline halfway 81 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: through an article that's in bold or what. 82 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you call those things? 83 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: But anyway, it says here consumers may focus more on 84 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 3: price levels than price changes. Okay, all right, well that's 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: that's correct. Yes, yes, it is incorrect and obvious to 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: anyone over the age of five. Yes, good look, I 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: can't I'm reeling from that one. You know, I thought 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 3: it was the beating was about over, and you caught 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: me right in the gyms with that. I mean, consumers 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: worry more about fing prices than the rate of e 91 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: fing change, which they can't observe day to day because 92 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: they're busy with the real lives. 93 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 2: Oh, it's so funny. So I mentioned as a target. 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: The other day, I get my normal allotment of stuff 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: and it's two one hundred dollars. This is the first 96 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 3: time it's ever open over two hundred dollars, and I 97 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: said to the guy, two hundred dollars. 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: He said, yeah, I know everybody reacts that way. 99 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: And I should have said to the guy, Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: whoa whoa, back off, buddy. The rate of change is lower, 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: all right. The percentage increases lower than it was before, 102 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: so you take it down a notch. I guess I 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: should be happy that it's two hundred dollars because it's 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: totally gone up two percent in the last month as 105 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: opposed to the you know, between three and nine percent 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: for the previous three years. 107 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: I think that that that illustrates this case so beautifully. 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: I mean, that would be absurdest humor for you to 109 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: say that to the cashier. And yet that is essentially 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: the inverse of what they're claiming with straight facing The 111 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 4: New York Times. Oh, speaking of which, I'm so glad 112 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: you brought this up, because I've been sitting on this 113 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: for a while. Dave in Baltimore, I think, yeah, Dave 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: and Baltimore sent us this and the title of the 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: New York Times articles speaking of the old Gray Lady 116 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: is which appears to be a senilist Joe Biden when 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 4: it writes about economics is wages have been outpaced. I'm sorry, 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 4: let me do this again. The words are important. Wages 119 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: have outpaced inflation, but not for everyone. And here is 120 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: one of my favorite couple of sentences in the history 121 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: of my reading newspapers. The bottom line, most American workers 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: are probably making more money today adjusted for inflation than 123 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: they were in twenty nineteen, but not all have seen 124 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: their pay keep up with their own cost of living, 125 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: and many, perhaps most, are lagging behind where they would 126 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: be if pre pandemic trends had continued unabated. These complications 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: may help explain why so many Americans believe they have 128 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 4: fallen behind. 129 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: They have fallen behind. Wow. 130 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: The New York Times is saying most Americans are making 131 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: more money today adjusted for inflation than they were pre pandemic. 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: I have seen that statistic nowhere. I don't see how 133 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: that's impossible. They're wrong on the fact. But the second part, 134 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: which I've read a couple of times so I will 135 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: parse for you, is claiming that in spite of that 136 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: fact that y'all and we are making more money adjusted 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: for inflation, bacon is easier to buy for. 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Us than it was pre pandemic. We're going out to 139 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: eat and spending. 140 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: Less relative to our incomes than we were a while ago. 141 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: But in spite of that. 142 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: Because we have somehow projected in our heads where we 143 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: would be twenty nineteen to twenty twenty four if the 144 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: inflation hadn't been so high for several years, we're coming 145 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: up with some sort of fanciful Yes, bacon is easily 146 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: affordable right now, but it would be even more easily 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 4: affordable if not for the inflation of twenty twenty one 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: through twenty twenty four. And I'm thinking, well, back to 149 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 4: your question, do you know any human beings have. 150 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: You spoken with them? That is? 151 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: That is blindness that goes beyond galling and is absolutely 152 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 4: in the realm of amazing, And I would like to 153 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: hear scientists explain it. 154 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: Here's a director of consumer surveys at the University of 155 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: Michigan in the same New York Times article. It's not 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: that consumers have lost touch with reality. It's just at 157 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: high prices continue to weigh down their personal finances. Thank 158 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: you for having you're a professor. I'm glad you're a 159 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 3: university professor because none of us regular people could figure 160 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: that out at all, and then they. 161 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: beIN of medicine at the University of Michigan said, don't 162 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: jam sharp objects into your eye. 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: Where was your article from your nonsensical article? New York Times, 164 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: New York Times. Yeah, so this says wages have climbed 165 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: faster than prices for many consumers. 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: Okay, how many? 167 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Not very I don't know anybody who got enough of 168 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: a raise over the last several years to put them 169 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: even even, let alone ahead. 170 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't know anybody. 171 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the first time I've ever heard anybody 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: claim that, and it's a couple of times in the 173 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: New York Times when you had to that's the narrative. 174 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you had to have gotten like a twenty percent 175 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: raise since twenty nineteen to keep up with the overall 176 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 4: prices stuff? 177 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 178 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we could go on, because they quote 179 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: a couple of more Harvard economists who study how people 180 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: experience inflation. 181 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: You need you all, all of you, all, all y'all, 182 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 3: as they say in the South, all y'all need to 183 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: hang around any normal human beings, go down to your 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: corner bar and have a conversation with some people, or 185 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: turn to someone at a you know, a high school 186 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: basketball game. Talk to any normal human being. All right, 187 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: somebody who doesn't work for the New York Times live 188 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: in Manhattan is a childish catwoman with an advanced degree. 189 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: And see what think about prices? 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: I tell you what, If you can bag this rare game, 191 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: it would be rarer than having a panda head on 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 4: your wall. 193 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: Okay, wow, you find somebody to your house and you 194 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: got a panda head on your wall? Do I pretend 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: I don't see it? I say, hey, Jim, I can't help, 196 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: but notice. 197 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm wondering what other as that person's up to me? 198 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: Was that they'll do anything? Was that pad live at 199 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: one point? This is rarer game. 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 4: Still, you go down to the corner bar to this 201 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: the soccer game, waiting for kids in line at school, 202 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: and you find the person who says, in response to 203 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: my god, prices are so high it's still shocking. They say, yes, 204 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: but the rate of increase has slowed, and that's what's important. 205 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 4: You bag that rare game, and I will salute you 206 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: a mighty hunter. 207 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: In the Strong Congetti Show. 208 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: This is from a guy I don't know, journalist in Australia. Dude, 209 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Nobody on the left knows how to speak to young 210 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: men because every five seconds this has had why so 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: many young men voted for Trump and are moving away 212 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: from the Democratic Party, where the younger people used to 213 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: all flock to the Democrats. Nobody on the left knows 214 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 3: how to speak to young men because every five seconds 215 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: at a leftist meeting, you have to either do a 216 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: land acknowledgment, or go around in a circle and pay 217 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: homage to the power of queer joy or some crap. 218 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 2: He actually says, yes, it's briefly. 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: I know this because I used to be a socialist, 220 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: and this is how all these organizations act. 221 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: I saw all this with my own eyes. 222 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: You have to literally be self flagellating to be in 223 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: the left as a young man these days, and this 224 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: is probably the understanding and experience in perspective of ninety 225 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: percent of young men. The feeling is that you have 226 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: to always constantly apologize for effing existing and just the 227 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: crime of being born. And this is why the right 228 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: is so effective at hoovering all these people up, because 229 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: the experience of constant self flagellation and self criticism is 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: effing exhausting and annoying. And nobody wants to wake up 231 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: every day feeling like they are an a s person 232 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: just for the crime of being born. 233 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: I like that. Amen to that. 234 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: He also goes on, we have to fix this because 235 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: I hate watching young guys fall into the Andrew Tait masculinity, 236 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: and then he goes through a couple of examples of that. 237 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: Because they got nowhere to turn to, They're going to 238 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: these like super over the top extremist weirdos just to 239 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: find somebody that's you know, appealing to them and not criticize, Yeah, 240 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: not criticizing them for being a man. This is an 241 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: existential threat for the Left and even an existential threat 242 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: for humanity itself, because the end result if we don't 243 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: fix these gender warfare dynamics is South Korea style gender 244 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: hyper war and a total fertility rate of point four 245 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: and humanity just gets wiped out. That is absolutely I mean, 246 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: that is absolutely true. On the left, if you're going 247 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 3: to continue to make U males feel bad about even 248 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: being born, you're not gonna win a lot of elections. 249 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: Or ever get that crowd. 250 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: My heart bleeds for the little boys in public schools 251 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 4: or continually treated as if their maleness is a defect. 252 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: I know, it's horrorbies. 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: It's their energy, their boundless energy is a misbehavior. Oh, 254 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: I just you want to get me going. 255 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 2: God. 256 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: I came across some schoolwork the other day and my uh, 257 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: my son is homeschooled. But so much of the teaching 258 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: material out there is put out there by publishing companies 259 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: that are so left I mean, you really have to 260 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 3: work at getting the right stuff. But anyway, this particular 261 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: thing was all about how women can be doctors. 262 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: You know, freaking kidding. 263 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: At this point in my life, when somebody says the 264 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: doctor will see you, I assume. 265 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: It's going to be a woman. I'm surprised if it's 266 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: a man. So what do you what are you talking about? 267 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 3: You won? 268 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: Wow? That's just again a head scratcher. What wow? Wow. 269 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: I thought I would feel differently after the election. 270 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: I thought there would be. 271 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: At the very least fairly widespread recognition to some of 272 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: the simple realities of the thing, which is that Kamala 273 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: Harris was a weak candidate, always was weak candidate. Is 274 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: that putting it out before hapes? You all rejected her, 275 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: as I said, like a rabbit raccoon when she was 276 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: in the primary was that sexism and racism when you 277 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: did that, well, I haven't no. Okay, Well, then when 278 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: the same thing happened the presidential election, why is your 279 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: explanation completely different? 280 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: That is funny that that has never really been put 281 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: to anybody. Your party rejected her when she ran before, 282 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: not like right wing, your own party, like the most 283 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: active people in your party. Primary voters said no to 284 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: her before she even got to the first contest. So wow, 285 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: how is it shocking that she got rejected by a 286 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: larger group of people? 287 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: And it's become a so oft observed fact, it's a truism. 288 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: It's working its way toward being a cliche that when 289 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris on the View then Colbert? Was it Colbert 290 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: or Kimmel, it doesn't matter. 291 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: Could not say how she would be different than the 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: extremely unpopular Biden administration. That that was one of the 293 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: most pivotal political moments in any campaign. I mean, that 294 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: is so widely discussed right now, there's no point in 295 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: bringing it up. 296 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: Everybody knows it. But as I was reading the. 297 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: Long top tier editorial writer editorial writers of the Washington 298 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: Post dialogue about what happened, how did we get this 299 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: result that didn't come up. 300 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: I haven't seen any criticism of Kamala Harris as a 301 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: candidate from the left at all. Maybe that's coming. I 302 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: don't know. But I have seen more than I have 303 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: ever seen before, and more than I expected of people 304 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: saying we have Democrats have gone too far down the 305 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: road of progressiveness in the culture wars. I have seen 306 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: a fair amount of that. Yes, yeah, yeah, your. 307 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: Old school liberals are finally finding the courage or the 308 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: cover to stand up and say, hey, y'all, all that 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: stuff is madness. 310 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: Which, by the way, is the way you win the 311 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: political arguments. That's when you've won. That's a good Other 312 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: side of it would be on gay marriage, where you know, 313 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: if you're old enough to remember this whole battle and 314 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: discussion in America, it got to the point to where 315 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Republicans realized we got to stop being anti gay marriage. 316 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: It's just a losing issue. I mean, we just can't 317 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: be and you stop talking about it. 318 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: And hopefully that's going to start on the left with 319 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 3: the you know, boys playing girls' sports or all kinds 320 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: of different things, where they realize this is we're gonna lose. 321 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: We nobody wants to hear this or not enough people 322 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: want to hear this right right, Our academic left wing 323 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 3: is just completely wildly out of touch with Americans. That 324 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: latinex and herstry Herkstreet and that sort of stuff is. 325 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: Insane, absolutely insane. 326 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: Are Strong the Armstrong and Getty show. 327 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 5: President Elect Trump with Elon Musk in Texas there for 328 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 5: the sixth test launch of the SpaceX starship meant to 329 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: eventually take humans to the Moon and Mars. The launch 330 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 5: itself successful, the booster even detaching as it's supposed to, 331 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 5: but then SpaceX seeing some issue with the booster booster 332 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 5: offshore divert Unfortunately, that means that we are our no 333 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: go for the catch. It was supposed to land back 334 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 5: in Texas, but to save it from potentially destroying the 335 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 5: SpaceX launch facility or endangering lives on land, the booster's 336 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 5: shifting course and heading to the Gulf instead for a splashdack. 337 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: So they didn't catch this rocket with them. What does 338 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: he call it? 339 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 3: The megasuthan or other is what he calls the giant 340 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: arm that catches the rocket booster. 341 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: I still feel like. 342 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 3: The media has not caught on to the way Elon 343 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: looks at these things. 344 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, agreed. 345 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: The whole fail fast theory or there's no fast and 346 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: learn faster, isn't that? 347 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 348 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: In this thing which you can apply to your own life, 349 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: I've tried to apply it to mine. Is just there's 350 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: no such thing as failure. It's just information. Okay, I 351 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: tried this, this is the result. There's information about so 352 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: now I'll try to try it this way right. 353 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: Failure will ever hold you back. Fear of failure is crippling. 354 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Interesting. 355 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: And Elon expressed again yesterday that he plans to have 356 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: a rocket reach Mars in twenty twenty six. Now he 357 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: promises a lot of things, it often comes up short. 358 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 3: I think that's part of his whole success thing. Is 359 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: he he hits he sets aggressive deadlines. 360 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeahs over understrives. 361 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: No, But I mean if he's if he's off by 362 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: several years, that'd be quite amazing. I hope it happens 363 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: in my lifetime. What just a stunning thing to even 364 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: think about. 365 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 4: And this isn't aside and we'll dig into this more 366 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: thoroughly later on, but compare that idea of we're gonna 367 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: set a goal that's probably not reachable, but we're gonna 368 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 4: go nuts trying to get there. Who's in compared to 369 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: government right where I'd like to see that memo filled 370 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: out by the end of the months. 371 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: There's seven of you working. 372 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: Have we run that through the Environmental Agency to make 373 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: sure we're not a foul of any this or that. 374 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: Have the application done by next March. 375 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: So speaking of mankind and the amazing thing that Homo 376 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 3: sapiens have been into outer space and are going to 377 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: go further and further versus many of the other humans 378 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: that have existed on planet Earth that didn't make it 379 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: out of the Stone Age? 380 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: Why is that? 381 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: So you might be familiar with the book Sapiens that 382 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: came out several years back. It was a big giant 383 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: hit and it's just a fascinating freaking book. But I'd 384 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: only read the first chapter before, and I'm into the 385 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: deeper chapters. At one time, there were six different kinds 386 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: of humans existing on the planet at the same time, 387 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: and it's still not completely known why Homo sapiens this 388 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: is what we are, emerged and all the other ones 389 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 3: didn't make it. But one of the genocide against my people, 390 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: the Neanderthals. 391 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: Could be or all kinds of different things could happen. 392 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 3: But one of the beliefs is, and I've never heard 393 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: this before, is Homo sapiens are the only beast that 394 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: has ever existed on Earth that can believe fictions. And 395 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: uh and and fully embraced them. And I didn't quite 396 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: understand what he meant by fictions when he started in 397 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 3: on it. 398 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: But he uses all different kinds of examples. 399 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: For instance, and if you're a religious person, you will 400 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: be bothered by him using the word fiction. But he 401 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: doesn't mean fiction as in uh fake, as much. Is 402 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: it something that's in your mind. I'll start with this 403 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: and said before I get to religion. 404 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 2: Uh. Money, money is a fiction. I mean it is 405 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: it is. You know. 406 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: You you take a piece of paper, It doesn't it's 407 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: just a piece of paper. So you have to have 408 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: all the belief that goes in with a five dollars 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: bill of what what the value of it is, how 410 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 3: it's backed up by the US government, how it can 411 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: be exchanged for something. And then you give the five 412 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: dollars bill to somebody at the store who also believes 413 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: the fiction of this piece of paper, and so you 414 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 3: can trade goods and stuff like that. 415 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: No other beast. 416 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 3: Probably no other human ever had the mental ability to 417 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: do that, so you couldn't trade. For instance, some might 418 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 3: prefer the term abstraction. Maybe yeah, you know, maybe that 419 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: would be better. 420 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 4: Believing something or understanding it in the abstract, but yeah, 421 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: what an interesting principle. 422 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Same with the idea of a nation. 423 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 3: So Homo sapiens could and do band together over the 424 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: idea of a nation, a country, a belief, a culture 425 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: that's worth fighting for, and so you can get a 426 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: very large number of people together to fight for it. 427 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: It seems that every other animal, including apes, you use 428 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: the example of sometimes apes do want to take another group, 429 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: you know, apes, territory because they think they got better 430 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: mangos over there or whatever. But they can't do it 431 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: more than a very large group because it's over a 432 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: very specific thing. The mangoes. As opposed to being able 433 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: to band together millions of people over an idea of 434 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: fiction or whatever you want to call it, an idea 435 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 3: of we are a nation, no animal has shown the 436 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: ability to do that, and they think perhaps Neanderthals or 437 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: homoerectus or any of the other humans couldn't do that. 438 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: A contrast, they couldn't buy into a concept like that. 439 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: So you're not going to have like West Side of 440 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 3: the Rainforest apes kick ass manasiders, they're not even real apes, 441 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: right right, So, and the same with refuse me apes, 442 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: and the same with creating a religion that you buy 443 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: into that you could all band together around and protect 444 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: yourself in very very large groups in a way that 445 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: no other animal or human has ever been able to do. 446 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's a fascinating thing to think about. 447 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: That's what separates us from all other living creatures on Earth. 448 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: Perhaps that's as good a definition or distinction as I 449 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: have ever come across. Yeah, I thought it was amazing. 450 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 4: I too, started that book in kind of an interested way. 451 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: I need to dive back into it. 452 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: It's amazing how much is not known. That's one of 453 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: the things that's really stuck out to me. There's a 454 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: lot of guessing going on in that field, and many 455 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: many others. 456 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: So Lex Friedman had on a guy the other day 458 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 3: who's kind of like an out there, controversial sort of 459 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: anthropologist dude who has a belief that there was a 460 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: major lost civilization somewhere on planet Earth that we haven't 461 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: discovered yet. That explains the giant leap from hunter gathering 462 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 3: to agriculture and civilization that happened simultaneously around the world 463 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: kind of all of a sudden ish in historical terms. 464 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it happened over tens of thousands of years. 465 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: But given the fact that were humans around for like 466 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: two million years, why all of a sudden, all of a. 467 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 2: Sudden, were we able to create civilization. 468 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: There was a civiilation that grew very solely maybe in Antarctica, 469 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: and we just have never discovered that it has existence, 470 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: and it had spread around the world, but then it disappeared, 471 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 3: was covered up with ice, and. 472 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: Then the Lost Atlantis. 473 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 3: The new idea of the way to live as humans 474 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: got out there and started. 475 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: I don't know who knows. 476 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, if you've studied this stuff at all, you 477 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: know that some of the ancient civilizations and cities and 478 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: all are super well documented and some aren't. Some you know, 479 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: it's fairly fragmentary. But clearly there was a giant city 480 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 4: and I have not studied this much. Er was one 481 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 4: of the first civilized areas in Iraq, I believe, but 482 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: it's not like a ton is known about it. 483 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it's absolutely. 484 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: Imaginable that there was a big, important civilization and the 485 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: only records that were kept of it were over here, 486 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 4: and oh gully of volcano just went off. 487 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: Wrecking the only records that have ever existed. Yeah. 488 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: And it's also highly unfortunate that most of the oldest 489 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: civilizations in Egypt and Iraq, and maybe the oldest civilization 490 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: is in turn, are in places where everything's so effed 491 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 3: up the world can't really get there and explore it 492 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 3: in the way you could if it were like found 493 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: in Nebraska speaking of certain religions. 494 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 495 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 4: Yeah. 496 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Also, taking in all that information and thinking about these 497 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 3: spreads of time, I don't know, it kind of weirds 498 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: you out from a getting so worked up about your 499 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: current situation. 500 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, that's another. 501 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 4: Version of the Atlanta on your back and looking at 502 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: the stars for twenty minutes experience. 503 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 504 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: I go back and forth on that one. So the so, 505 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: if human beings have been modern humans have been around 506 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: for let's say seventy thousand years, thinking and acting exactly 507 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: like we do. 508 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 2: And why are you so worried about your today day? 509 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 3: Well, because I'm me and my kids are them, and 510 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: I worry about you know, I want them to be 511 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: happy and not miserable or in pain. So that seems 512 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: like a pretty good reason to be concerned about it. Yeah, 513 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: question of balance, I think perspective, no balance, all or nothing, 514 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: one hundred percent or zero. That's the way I do it. 515 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: So all of that was really interesting in thought provoking, 516 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: and I thank you for bringing it to us. 517 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: But what does that have to do with doctor Oz beingpoint? 518 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to avoid having the conversation. 519 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: Leads doctor Oz bad days blah blah blah, Pete Hexith, 520 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: sexual assault, blah blah. 521 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: So just briefly for those of you who don't know, 522 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: and I won't go into it, but we had a 523 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: personal interaction with doctor Oz that made me hate him 524 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. He is a and 525 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: I don't like him at all, But that doesn't mean 526 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: he wouldn't be good at this job. I don't actually 527 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: have any idea whether or not he's qualified to do 528 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: this particular job. I doubt that he is because it's 529 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: a running Medicaid medicare I mean, what. 530 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: Forgive me, friends for using Jack's vocabulary. 531 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: We should all be better than that. But it's possible. 532 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 4: It takes a dick to go into those agencies and 533 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 4: turn them around possible. Oz's great sin which offended mister Armstrong. 534 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: It mostly amused me, but was. 535 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 4: That he came in and just tried to take control 536 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: of the radio show. He was there as a guest 537 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: and said, our screener will screens calls, you sit down, 538 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: here's the way it's gonna go. We're like, wait a minute, no, 539 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: but he just seized control. 540 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 2: So he's a leader. He's a leader. 541 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: Maybe he's a leader and a dick, but apparently he 542 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: is used to people saying yes, doctor Oz, yes, sir right, 543 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 4: and he gets. 544 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: Things that go the way he wants them to go. 545 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one thing, it ain't gonna be as boring, friends, 546 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: isn't that the one sin that cannot be forgiven boring? 547 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,239 Speaker 2: The next couple of years will be interesting. 548 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: And Bremer made a decent point on his Twitter feed 549 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: yesterday that before you get two worked up about a 550 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 3: lot of these choices, confirmed or not, they won't be 551 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: around long based on recent history. So whatever you know, 552 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: it's it's not like it's for the rest of our 553 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: lives or all eternity. 554 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: It's probably a year or two. 555 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: For what it's worth. I love Linda McMahon at the 556 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: Education Department. I want to talk about that because our 557 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 4: education system in the US seriously has it is diseased, 558 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: seriously diseased, and obviously you know me, I'm on about 559 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 4: the radicalization of our children and doctrination in schools which 560 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 4: is horrific and horrifically inappropriate. But you know you don't 561 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: even need to go there. They ain't teach and the 562 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: kids to read and write, the do arithmetic. Good lord, 563 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: what are they? What are those buildings there for? Just 564 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: to keep the rain off the kids' heads. The turn 565 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: has happened with college education. Polling shows that now most 566 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: people realize, wait a second, and it's these places are crazy. 567 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 4: I'm not sure this is a good idea that the 568 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: tide turned a lot. Where do you think we are 569 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: with public school K through twelve? 570 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: We still have work to do to get people to 571 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: realize this is way way, way off time. 572 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: Sure are a lot. 573 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: There are more people that ever homeschooling or doing private 574 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: schools and have ever been before. COVID hastens that right, right, 575 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: and that's a big factor. I was just going to say, 576 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: there's an awareness campaign that needs to be done. 577 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: It's growing. 578 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 4: But then the fact is that there are not the 579 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 4: same alternatives, or the alternatives aren't as easy to take 580 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 4: advantage of in elementary education for working families, they got 581 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 4: little kids, they're paying their taxes. They think the government 582 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: set up these schools. I want my kid to learn, 583 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: you know, homeschooling, private schooling. It's expensive and door time consuming. 584 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 4: Whereas I've came across another great article from this guy 585 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 4: who counsels like the elite high school students of the 586 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: Northeast who all wanted to go to the Ivy League forever, 587 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 4: and he reaffirmed what I saw in the Wall Street Journal. 588 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: We talked about a little bit. 589 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: He said, Now, all the lots and lots of these kids, 590 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: huge numbers of them, they're parents are like, Hey, how 591 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: about Georgia, how about South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, where kids 592 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 3: go to school to learn and like drink a little 593 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: beer on the weekend and try to get laid. How 594 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 3: about that as opposed to marching in favor of Hamas 595 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: all the damn time. 596 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 597 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: Plus, your future employer has not seen this campus on 598 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 3: the evening news being nuts. 599 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: Right, which they assume you went to Tennessee to get 600 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: a degree in whatever you got a degree in, not 601 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 4: in radical studies. 602 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's a good one. 603 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Hating capitalism, Jack Armstrong and Joe, the Armstrong and Getty Show, 604 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: The arms Strong and Getty. 605 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: Show twicey times. 606 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: Indeed, friends, here's your freedom living Quote of the day 607 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 4: from GK. Chesterton contemplate this, will you. The most extraordinary 608 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 4: thing in the world is an ordinary man and an 609 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 4: ordinary women, not women women. It's not polyamory, you idiot. 610 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: He's not in some sort of weird open marriage. 611 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: I ruined G. K. Chesterdan's quote. He had such a 612 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: role going there too, sonorous tones really was going well 613 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: there right until that word right there? Do we have 614 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: enough tape to do a second tape? 615 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 4: Michael, the most extraordinary thing in the world is an 616 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 4: ordinary man and an ordinary woman and their ordinary children. 617 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that. I'm not sure precisely what he 618 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 4: meant by that. I've long believed that while someone who 619 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 4: reacts to danger or need or something in the split 620 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: second and runs into the building and saves the children, 621 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: it's over and begins in forty five seconds, that person 622 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: is indeed a hero, and we should use that word 623 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 4: but how about somebody who shows up day after day 624 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: after day, be it difficult and heartbreaking and painful and whatever, 625 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 4: and just keeps showing up. 626 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty damned heroic too, in my opinion. 627 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to living in an adult life with a 628 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: family is quite the thing. So I think maybe I 629 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: do understand that quote. 630 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: I think that's what he meant. Mail bag. If you 631 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: know what GK. 632 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: Chesterton meant by that, drop us a note mail bag 633 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 4: at Armstrong and Getty dot com. John in Southampton, England, rights, 634 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: Good morning, Jack and Joe. Can I suggest a UK 635 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 4: US exchange we have where you have citizens who are 636 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 4: desperate to leave the US because you have elected a 637 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: strong leader who it seems is only interested in improving 638 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 4: your country. Myself and others are unhappy with the UK 639 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: Prime Minister and Labor Party are extremely left and are 640 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: already running our country into the ground with high taxes 641 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 4: and unreasonable climate change targets. 642 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: I would like to offer my two. 643 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: Bet apartment in Southampton in exchange for a home in 644 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: the US. 645 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: Love the show I listen every day. Thanks John. 646 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let me speak for my fellow Americans. We've 647 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: kicked it around and appointed me as the spokesman Fall Americans, John, 648 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: we would love to have you. Please come on over. 649 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: Get the immigration paperwork. 650 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: Nobody even looks at it. 651 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 3: It just goes into a shredder. It's just a big 652 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 3: elaborate joke. 653 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: Good, just come on over. 654 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 3: A good feature on illegal immigrant farm workers on. 655 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 2: Sixty minutes last night? Is that what it was on 656 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: some show no ABC this week? Man? Was that interesting? 657 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 2: We got to talk about that later. 658 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: Oh h sounds good, Mikey North Carolina rights guys in 659 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 4: light of the Tyson fight, man suggest the general manager 660 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: could have been father time. As you pointed out, all 661 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: the time remains undefeated. 662 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: And that was rough as a guy roughly the same 663 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: age as Mike Tyson realizing, okay, you can get the 664 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 3: base best shape your life. 665 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: You're still old. Mike Tyson second round, walking back to 666 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: his chair looking eighty years old. 667 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 4: Dr okay uh dh in San Diego at the other 668 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 4: end of the country. I also watched the Tyson fight. 669 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: He said, Holy cow, was that boring? The eight rounds 670 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 4: of an old man who didn't want to be hit, 671 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: But the ladies had a bloody slugfest. 672 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 2: That was a man peak. 673 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 4: Execs may need to rel look at his arguments against 674 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 4: women in combat. 675 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 3: That was some fight that was the best female fighter 676 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: in the world. I didn't know this to I watched 677 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: the fight and a challenger who should have won, and 678 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 3: it reminded my reminded me of why boxing fell off 679 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: the map like it did so often. 680 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: You want to boxing match. 681 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 3: The crowd, the fighters, the announcers all saw it one way, 682 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: but the three judges saw it another way, And you think, 683 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: why did I even. 684 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 2: Watch this six? 685 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 4: Dave writes, With around fifty percent of the country voting 686 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 4: for Trump, why is the dominant media dominant? I ask 687 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 4: a as a long term A and G listener and 688 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 4: a middle of the road democrat, seems to me that 689 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: the free market is missing an opportunity. Well, Dave, I 690 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: would suggest that the media is the dominant media is 691 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 4: less and less dominant. They are dying slowly, partly because 692 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: of their ideological bias. 693 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't reflect America. We got so much good stuff 694 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: to talk about on the way. 695 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 3: If you mess an hour, get the podcast Armstrong and 696 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: Getty on the Man Armstrong. 697 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 2: And Getty, They're gonna wear fast. Don't you think that's 698 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: a little odd? Absolutely, there's no doubt in my mind, 699 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: this is the Armstrong and Getty show.