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Speaker 1: never told you Production by Heart Radio and for Today's Classic,

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Speaker 1: I've already hinted at it, but we are bringing back

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Speaker 1: from Silent Hill three, because yes, I have been.

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Speaker 1: We're getting to the end of October, even though you

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Speaker 1: movie has so much drama behind it. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: I could not believe, like it did not know even

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Speaker 3: Did we not watch it together?

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Speaker 2: No, I did not know this existed. I did not

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Speaker 3: So I watched this before you did.

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Speaker 2: You must have. I didn't know it was the thing.

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Speaker 2: Nope, I've never seen it. Les you didn't know it.

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Speaker 1: The person who played Heather was a fan cast actually, yes,

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Speaker 1: And the person who created pyramid Head, which is kind

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Speaker 1: Harsh, Yes, because pyramid Head is kind of like a

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: Never Told You production of iHeartRadio. And today it is

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Speaker 1: If you enter the Konami code, you can get some

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